Plane is Intercepted by F-35 | Busted PRESIDENTIAL TFR at Dallas
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Thanks to everyone who reported this one over by email. Please let me know if you get information on the other intercepts from yesterday night.
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Just curious if there has actually been an uptick in airplane mishaps in the last few years or has this always been happening?
"Boy, what a great day to do some pattern work! It's usually so hectic here, but the airport is nice and quiet today. Wonder where everyone is. Oh well, their loss!"
🤣😂
sounds about right for aero country. They have multiple incidents a year this is also the pace where that lanciar overran the runway and hit a car on the road
@@ghostrunner2138why are incidents in this airport so common?
I did an instructional flight with a student last year and I was aware of a TFR that was going to go active about 2 hours later. The entire practice area that is otherwise full of planes was completely empty. The lack of planes, paired with the yellow circle on Foreflight was foreboding enough for me to cut the flight short and head back. Last thing I wanted was to be that guy trapped in an active TFR, even if I was aware of the NOTAM active time 😂
Sqwidward : it sure is nice flying my 1950 cessna 152
F-35: Hiii squidward
Never a good thing when someone is talking to you on the radio from under an oxygen mask.
Or when they refer to you as a TOI.
@@oldRighty1 Oh, yeah!!!
@@oldRighty1 What does TOI stands for? Target of Interception?
@@niuniuhhh Target of Interest
Hey, as long as he doesn't say "fox 2" you're good.
Cessna Pilot to F35: too close for missiles. Switching to guns.
I bet you wouldn't even want to joke about that up there. Might be worth the risk though to make yourself an instant legend.
@@slowfusethis person is quoting a commercial pilot's joke when informed of close by f35s, look up the phrase and you'll find the atc
Aka a pilot has said that when up there 😅
@@hefoxed Yup. I thought it was funny enough of a line to repeat.
I called traffic to a SR22 that had a flight of B2’s going underneath him. That was his exact response. Classic
@@markf19 It is a very funny quip! The original video of the airline pilot saying this a classic!
Makes sense now, was wondering why a F-35 was flying over my place in McKinney.
Imagine flying your little Cessna merrily along, then looking out your windows to see the world’s most advanced military jet shadowing you.
lol. F-35 is not the most advanced military jet. F-22 is.
@@JoshuaCasey Oh, well that changes everything then.
Heap of overpriced crap more like
@@JoshuaCaseyF-22 is only superior in the air to air theater. As far as sensor capabilities, then yes... The F-35 wins that war hands down.
@@afridgetoofar1818😂
I imagine it's painful managing to get an F-35 to be stable while flying slow enough to intercept a Cessna
Not if it's a B :-)
simpsons predicted this
ua-cam.com/video/oY-pdk_FWh0/v-deo.html
Nah the Fly by wire would make the control a breeze. Not stalling would be the hard part
They can handle it. Not exactly amateur pilots.
That's why they generally have some military helicopters around. They may need a little longer to get to the TOI, but they can fly side-by-side those Cessnas it needed.
this happened once over my house during Obama's term. It was AIRSHOW LOUD because the F15s were behind the curve trying to fly slow enough to stay near the little C150, and when they passed the cessna they would go to AB and make a big circle to get back behind the guy for another pass. So a huge roar for 30 seconds, then this banging rumble as the noise bounced off the hills during the big circle, then another huge roar...
Another criminal that ran your country, and why the feck was he over in uk recently?
Can confirm here is the audio my door bell camera picked up from the intercept ua-cam.com/video/o_AKnzDfBUE/v-deo.html Frisco off PGA Parkway
@@ph4se2Great vid, thanks!
I think we're remembering the same incident, but I was further away. I heard a loud jet and walked outside, only to see an F-15 flying just off the coast. I think the CA International Airshow was the previous weekend, so I thought it might have been flying back from that, but that's when I noticed the Cessna also flying just off the coast.
I later found out that the F-15 was circling the Cessna.
I can recall a similar incident too involving 2 Air National Guard F16's going full afterburner supersonic over the PNW region(Seattle) during a TFR.
You know you're not doing well when an F-35 refers to you as a Target of Interest...
😂
I heard the f-35 fly over my house and wondered why. Interesting to see my neck of the woods on this channel.
Sigh*
This is why we read NOTAMS🤦♂️
No one reads notams
@@homomorphicthe NOTAM system is broken. If you check TFRs on the TFR map provided by the FAA, the disclaimer is that the information may not be up to date. All BS, do away with TFRs!
Nobody reads NOTAMS...
@@TheFlyingZulu some try. The problem is that the guy that designed the system, doesn’t have to actually go out and use on a daily basis.
@@mickeydoolittle2057Most of the federal government is broken.
Anytime you hear a aircraft in your vicinity using "Noble "as the call sign, things are going to speed up significantly
"Noble" That's rich.
A noble thought
@@HighSpeedChaser Not much noble about the US government.
@@MooseGuy1.. Anarchist? I'm ready to hear your "every government bad" argument
@@rbgerald2469 No, not an anarchist. A person who believes in equal Constitutional rights for all. Including politicians. If you still think this country is noble after all the rights they've illegally seized since 9-11, I'm happy for you.
In this day and age of Sky Demon, ForeFlight etc., there really is no excuse for busting a TFR.
Willful ignorance. The no-radio, no electronics pilots are still out there doing smash and go’s on their private strips on their back 40.
If they're legal then you are just a bunch of losers. @@MomedicsChannel
@@MomedicsChannel and they're the same guys who yell at people who do their initial training in glass cockpits with ipads
@@MomedicsChanneland they probably still have an iPhone in their pocket while they do it...
@@MomedicsChannelI remember the good old days when we’d jump into the airplane and just go, planning be damned lol
Noble32 seemed to have gotten a handful of responses that must have been "are you talking to me?" type transmissions, since he kept saying "no, I'm looking for a different plane." That tells me their may have been way more air traffic up and running than there should have been.
I think the pilot of the 150 had his radio turned down. I was on the ground at T31 taking video. I talked to the PIC FTF after he landed and taxied off the runway. He had no idea he was intercepted.
You have it on tape?
I think it made sense to keep his radio 🔇 to concentrate
@@Belchmaster41 if that’s true, he shouldn’t be a pilot.
Clueless about an F35 was circling him? Bet all the pilots in his area are happy to know he's up there flying with them.
@@DeltaEntropyhe's not having any emergencies or anything. There is nothing to distract him
"This is a US aircraft."
Cool, how many are there?
Not one pair but two pair. We got 4 bogeys. WRONG, MAKE THAT FIVE!
@@sweetlowsoundsTalk to me, Goose!
@@sweetlowsoundsFIVE?!
It would've been funny if the 150 pilot responded, "Okay, that narrows it down to 2 or 3 hundred thousand. But I'm on downwind and have no time for 20 Questions."
Even us model airplane types got the TFR and obeyed ...
I live about 3 miles south of Aero Country. Yesterday (March 20), I heard a long burst of airplane noise. We get flights overhead for DFW, but this was longer than usual. I now think I was hearing the F-35 scrambling overhead. I wish I had gone outside to see what it was.
An F-35 must be scarier than a phone number...
Ngl I was kinda hoping the F-35 pilot would give this guy a phone number to copy 🤣
You have to land to call the number, the F-35 doesn't give a shit if you land or die.
@@sigmasquadleader if they light you up your "number" is 6ft. :P
“The active”
At a non-towered airport.
That was the first indication this wasn’t going to go well lol
Yep!
At least he didn’t ATITPPA.
i fly at an untowered airport and people say “taking the active” all the time🤷🏼♂️
runways are active and inactive at any airport, whether or not there's a tower. wind doesn't blow every direction at once.
@@UnshavenStatue Always helpful to have the runway number - at least he did announce RWY 17.
Pilots not looking at TFRs/checking wx/etc are falling into complacency. Complacency kills pilots. We, as pilots, gotta do better.
There's no excuse for this.
"Once you land, we'll give you a few minutes to change your pants."
I saw a ton of traffic flying around Denton meanwhile all the dfw traffic was holding.
Someone busted the TFR over Phoenix yesterday morning 3/20 @0730.
F-15 responded.
New fodder for @JustPlaneSilly. Can't wait to see the video he does on it.
Now I know why there was nothing showing on Flightradar24 over my head yesterday evening. Two fly overs, very loud. i figured it was a military jet. Cool to see it here on VASAvation and to now know the back story.
Finally someone gets intercepted for taking the runway on takeoff and not bringing it back…
“Its only 5 minutes till the tfr expires…they wont be flying around up here…”…
Flightaware shows the flight lasted from 6:14 to 6:18 pm and covered a total distance of 21 miles.
It also shows that the flight was scheduled for 6:31 pm. It might be possible that he knew of the TSR but thought it was over.
I saw those aircraft on Flightradar, and wondered why they were in area during A.F.1 arrival!
BUSTED!
"Airplane on 122.9 do you have any idea what a sidewinder will do to your aircraft?"
Is there enough of a heat signature for a sidewinder?
@@ansteve1 They smoked drones over the Red Sea with Sidewinders
@@neuropilot7310 not Fox 1? or even Fox 3?
@@PrograError As far as I know, the US doesn't use FOX 1 anymore. All missiles are now active radar or IR guided.
@@ansteve1AIM-9X uses an ir camera and machine vision, it's able to track almost everything (it can even be used to hit ground targets if you really need to)
As an Air Force vet who lives close enough to the airport I enjoyed seeing this go down and not understand why. At my kids track meet, I looked up as I heard a roar of engine like I used to work on. I look up and immediately spot the fighter. I know fighters fairly well, worked on F16's, but I couldn't make out which one it was. Low and behold, this was the event that was going on.
That’s going to be a costly flight
Possibly the pilots last flight.
@@LordOceanushow do you figure?
@@jcraigsheltonDidnt check NOTAMS before his flight. Clearly didnt do any proper research before his flight.
@@jcraigshelton I laugh at some of these comments every time someone has a pilot deviation. Like oh, they will never fly again or some such suspension or big fines. When in the VAST majority of times if a pilot can articulate an honest mistake was made when they get the call from the FSDO office, then typically a "don't ever let that happen again" and/or some remedial training via FAASTeam. Including for presidential TFR violations. This guy took off from an airport about 2 miles or so inside the 60 mile ring and flew out of it, circled turned back and landed. 14 minute flight total. From what I see pilot here never heard intercept call and the jet never met up with him.
@@Cobalt135 A 60 mile ring is absurdly large but, hey, that 150 could have been equipped with a long-range missile. An idiot-seeking missile (new technology) that could spell the end of most politicians. Terrorists are clever. The arc of technology from boxcutters is probably steep.
What do you think the odds are this pilot was smart enough to file a NASA report immediately upon landing?
What yah do is get a 182, you add a bigger engine it becomes a jet, makes it so you can go into space.
is it really that hard to go to skyvector and just *look* in your area before flying?
I literally saw the NOTAM the day this happened and wondered if anyone would accidentally fly through it. Here’s my answer…
I guess someone is going to have to make a phone call 😂
Didn’t have to squawk 7500 for the formation flight this time around
Check your NOTAMs before you fly...
Cessna pilot. Here’s a neat trick, full flaps and how slow can you go Mr f35
How slow he can go isn't the problem, how hungry the growling IR/UV multi-mode seeker on the tip of his AIM-9X is.
The Missile: LET ME OFF THE RAIL, LET ME OFF THE RAIL, LET ME OFF THE RAIL!!
that would be funny, a $X BILLION dollar aircraft has a vulnerability to a $40k, 40-yr old heap of squeaky crap (that still has a cigarette lighter)!
@@mcpr5971define 'vulnerability'. The trick would work once, then the F-35 leaves him in the dust as it extends out to have all the space on the world to line up on a guy who just tried to juke him
How many warnings do they get by the interceptor before they start slingin' sidewinders?
I wouldn’t worry about violating TFR if I knew they couldn’t find me, lol
This must be the fighter pilot version of a cop being stuck manning a speed trap.
I heard this go down live. Wondered why I heard a fighter. Wow
Liar.
@@Look_What_You_Did What? I live in McKinney….
Meanwhile he's still calmly transmitting on CTAF with his "pilot voice".
You would think that the local CTAF would be one of the frequcies ATC would try calling on
@@dasy2k1ATC doesn’t have the capability of transmitting or receiving on CTAFs. Our transmitters are set to the appropriate sector frequency and can not be changed. The only way would be to relay through an airborne aircraft or contact the airport manager via telephone.
I was just waiting for him to say "I'm so sorry I had no idea." :) Like that would have fixed everything....
Sorry for my ignorance: :-) I'm curious what would happen if someone in a small plane had bad intentions and the jet is too fast to keep up with it. It sounded like they lost sight of it towards the end there? Anyway, thanks for any explanations.
There's no such thing as to fast to keep up.... Bad intention is determined by a ore defined distance from the vip. Once inside of a threatening radius, if the aircraft has not responded to radio communications or looked out the window and saw a fighter and didn't deviate course, they would shoot it down and that is no joke. It clearly states in the tfr that it's established in the sake of national defense and deadly force may be authorized. If the fighters are too fast for an overshoot, then they'll often make offset maneuvers behind the aircraft to maintain a visual on the offending aircraft. And even if they do overshoot, they've got an incredibly nimble turn radius and can be back behind a Cessna in a matter of seconds.
Not to mention an air-to-air missile just loves slow moving targets. They've got the one that flies up to the target aircraft and passes in front of it and might even drop flares to try to get the pilot to respond, but there is usually another one hanging way back ready to fire.
I wonder whether the F35 could down the Cessna with just its jetwash, I imagine it has enough thrust to overload the airframe.
OK, that makes more sense. I was thrown off by how they had lost visual based on the transmissions. But I know I could've missed something else that could've been going on.
there are also Blackhawks enforcing TFR's
A fool and his pilot's license are soon parted-
They don't strip pilots of their license over accidental violations. He will probably be suspended for a few months and get a hefty fine.
@@TrafficCamWatchI doubt he will even get that. It’s was an accident and he was taking off from an uncontrolled field. It happens 🤷♂️
ah holier than thou AND you dont know what youre talking about
Upon landing quickly file a NASA report and things will go easier on the punishment end. Don’t ask how I know.
@@TrafficCamWatch What part of his actions were "accidental"?
Hello-?
Tell me you do not fly airplanes.....
I can see AF1 arriving and many other GA aircraft in the area on ADS-B Exchange, but not this aircraft. Furthermore, on FR24 its last flight doesn't coincide with this event.
What am I missing?
Not everyone has ADS-B out.
the other aircraft have a clearance with some sort of controller where this guy just went up woithout talking to anybody. That airport is a whole private community and this doesn't shock me.
@@ghostrunner2138 You didn't actually address what I wrote.
@@smark1180 oh for the ads-b it’s anyone’s guess. He’s under the mode c veil so he should have one but I got no idea man
@@georgealdredge2806They have to in that area. How do you think all the controllers knew the tail number without talking to him?
One pilot busts a TFR, they're the issue, if a few due, you have to wonder if it was a problem with the TFR? like not quick publish to in effect time...
It was published a week ago... Not sure that excuse is going to hold up.
Also it’s your responsibility to check before your flight.
One weeks notice or one day notice shouldn’t change anything unless you’re in the air for 24 hours straight.
Nope I fly in this area and it's been lit like a christmas tree for like 5 days because of this TFR before it was even active
You know you’re having a bad day when an F-35 is asking you for your tail number.
Hot take: AF1 shouldn't get much additional consideration beyond what any airplane does in terms of separation. The disruptions and screw-ups like this just aren't worth it. Also, someone wanting to do something malicious to AF1 isn't going to care about a TFR and clearly the slow response from the F-35 and apparent inability to locate the Cessna underscore my point. Same goes for sporting events like the Super Bowl...TFR for the flyover and that's it.
I mean, a TFR is basically an early warning perimeter. It gives the secret service a buffer (a few minutes) to assess the situation and provide the necessary steps to protect the president. It's better to be aware of the threat when it's still a few miles away rather than when it's already next to you.
A TFR is like a lock on your front door. It only bars the honest people. So when it's violated it makes it easier to identify the bad guys.
You know best. Just tell that to the big boys in Washington and they'll surely rewrite all their policies to suit your logic.
I bet your opinion changes every 4 to 8 years about TFR and AF1.
Fix your fuel mixture. You've not been getting enough oxygen, as an American. Too much Fox I mean fuel.
Everybody getting excited for no reason.
Opps!
It's Texas, land of the free.
U.S. aircraft being intercepted by U.S. aircraft. Shouldn't he have said he was a U.S. MILITARY aircraft?
If you are confused by the omission of “military” you shouldn’t be a pilot.
i've never been intercepted by a civilian aircraft but I guess that could happen lol
Look out below.
Poor guy. Had no clue
Do pilots get fined for TFR violations much or is it just another day in the office for the airspace controllers?
Can someone explain the consequences for this? What happens to that pilot now?
A very long and uncomfortable conversation with the FAA and Secret Service.
He'll likely need to get some retraining on NOTAMS and TFRs.
They will most likely get a stern talking and education maybe fines depending on the interview.
depends on the severity this guy wasa obviously just oblivious to what was going on and never was even remotely close to the actual president he'll probably get chewed out on the phone
@ghostrunner2138 North Texas was my regular flying airspace. It's full of a lot of people who commute via small plane and these guys tend to just get in a ritual. Bad habits for such a heavy VFR area.
Even if you are just going out to do pattern work at your local airport you always check NOTAMS!! Don't get complacent with stuff and think I'm just going do few laps and land.
Nobody does that.
@@smark1180 Lol, exactly. Guess they should. Even though I fly all over the place and alot of airspaces, I still check NOTAMS at my local Class E airport everytime!
That's funny.
i bet he got the big number to calll
Inexcusable
Oopsie
This was actually the more serious variant, and Oopsie Daisy.
If you “TAKE” the runway, please put it back at some point. lol
Oooppss
the hundred dollar hamburger just got a lot more expensive. And probably some lasting indigestion with it...
You never want to referred to as a TOI. Good outcome doubtful.
ForeFlight just makes it so easy to not do this
You don’t even need foreflight to not be an idiot. Even a boneheaded like me can put together an hour long flight and brief it with all applicable NOTAMS, AHAS, METARS, and TFRs in about 20 minutes. It’s not rocket science and it was never meant to be. A monkey could do this.
709 ride inc…
Odd that so many aircraft ignored the TFR. I hope this wasn't deliberate and organized, because people are going to be interviewed.
Did they ever make contact with the pilot?
doesn't sound like it but I'm sure they found out who he was at some pooint and gave him a call lol
Turn on your ipad, then dont fly through any red. Its not hard.
Wonder why the F-35 used “US aircraft” instead of his callsign?
cause he's a NOBLE...
NOBLE32 talking across the airwaves with the power and clarity of an archangel from the heavens. I got chills hearing them speak.
gayest comment I've read all day.
It was almost StarCraft like in tone and quality.
You must love the taste of leather from all that boot in your mouth
Just sounds like a guy in an Xbox Live party
I wondor how they would react to a Su-27 (civilian operated) just doing pattern work.
why does it seem so difficult for pilots to check for TFRs these days. So many airspace violations...i recall when I was flying years ago TFRs would show on certain flight apps and you could see them on the map when on ground planning routes.... cant just kick the tires and light the fire anymore,,, too much going on in the world for that... Pilots responsibility to Know Before You Go. Consequences are pretty stiff if the military or enforcement aircraft follow through... seems like a no brainer to make sure you live to fly another day.
Bro got to do slow flight so that F35 won’t be able to follow him at 55 knots😂
What happens if you violate a TFR?
What happens if you use the internet for its intended purpose?
All that I have gotten from this video is that an F-35 violated a TFR and then rudely accused someone else of doing the same thing.
😂😂😂
You got that wrong. And F-35 does not rudely accuse any aircraft rudely.
@@danielmorris4676???
Don’t think it’s any coincidence that these happen a lot in places where people wouldn’t necessarily pay attention to the Presidents arrival depending upon the party affiliation of said White House occupant.
Multiple violations? Come on, pilots, you've gotta pay attention to NOTAMS...seriously. I mean it gives the Noble guys something to do besides just fly around on patrol but still.
If you have multiple TFR busts, you have to ask if the NOTAM was filed correctly. Methinks something was screwed up.
Where did the “F-35” come from? Carswell with F-16s is right next door, why not use F-16s?
There are no more F-16s at NAS Ft. Worth. It hasn't been carswell since the early 90s.
And the F-35 launched out from Ft. Worth.
Usually Blackhawks are used to intercept small slow planes
Fighter squadrons do a rotation for Noble Eagle missions, they don’t typically use the local squadron. It’s treated as a TDY/deployment. When I was in the 58th FS at Eglin we did a rotation to Ft. Hood/Robert Gray for George Bush.
How come noone intercepted the F-35 for busting?😮😮
The F-22 miles behind the F-35:
Brother I am sorry to have to do this... But you're inside a TFR.
MIM104 Patriot: "RADAR lock. Goodnight, sweet prince."
Spend a million dollars to catch a 100 bucks an hour guy.
A guy who could potentially cause billions in damages
If you can't figure this out you got no business being up there. Hope you thanked some people for not making you a hole in the ground.
Multiple? Don't tell me this is some dumb shit...
It’s GA! We do what we want! Wild West of aviation…
My oldest daughter was a GA. My son was an RA.
My wife was a GA when she was a little girl. I was an RA.
“Fat Amy yelled at me. 😢😢😢”
That was a really crazy TFR and shut down the entire DFW area. These things should be a little less restrictive. It usually doesn’t shut things down for 24 hours
SOP says otherwise. You think you know the specifics... you do not.
@@Look_What_You_Did well, la la te dah hot ahot
Wut..? "You have been intercepted bu a U.S. aircraft but we don't know where you are so please state you location and heading"..??
Yeah, very poor interception communication phraseology. Standard though for any USA RT, always very none standard and confusing.
I imagine they ask that to confirm that they're talking to the right plane. They can see the plane, but they aren't necessarily certain that the voice on the other end of the radio is the same aircraft they're looking at.
The F-35 doesn't know how many airplanes are on that frequency, so they need to make sure they're talking to the correct airplane. They're also trying to get him to turn north to exit the TFR.
It’s not “we don’t know where you are” it’s “we’re looking at this aircraft, is it you?”
It’s the standard way to identify an aircraft without a transponder/IFF.
You don’t know who the aircraft is or what they’re callsign is, and unless you get real close you can’t read their tail number, so to figure it out you have to play 20 questions to narrow down the options using things like aircraft type, location, heading, color, etc.
“High wing propeller aircraft at 3000, heading north along the river, you are being intercepted by a US aircraft, please identify yourself.”
So if you’re a vision jet at 5k you know you’re not the TOI.
If all those things apply to you, you know you’re in trouble.
@@FishingPlanetMobile64Did you just say "Yut" ?
And then the Cessna responded -
"YOU'RE NOT INTERCEPTING ME, I'M INTERCEPTING YOU! AHAHA!"
As the F35 pilot notices the lone Cessna appear out of nowhere behind him.
The pilot's name is Trump!
sadly, the pilot is an ATP.
TFR? 🤔
Pants go Brown! 🥴
Why does such a large area of airspace need to be shutdown through a TFR, and have alert aircraft on standby to react. This is AF1 we are talking about, schedule an armed fighter escort on all flights, fighter pilots need to fly a certain number of hours regardless, and shrink the TFR to almost nothing. If the fighter jets are already there a Cessna won't be able to get close enough to do anything. Let recreational/civilian planes fly freely.
People who make this political disgust me.
we need the f-35's with the lasers we were promised. Seems like if you could defocus the beam you could make an amazing spotlight (edit although lasers like that might not be visible wavelengths, actually)