This video is priceless.. thank you so much. This really is the definitive video, not just for this individual product, but the whole range. Absolutely marvellous to have someone who so clearly REALLY knows their craft. I breathe a sigh of relief having spent a considerable time looking for exactly this information and demonstration, authentic, detailed, comprehensive and genuinely entertaining is the cherry on the cake. Sorry, when I finally find what I am looking for I have to impart my delight to the author of the work. I just returned a Tilta Float, I don't use a gimbal as such, I run the Ronin 4D. The float may be the best thing since sliced bread, but for me it was stupidly small, only a lunatic or the desperate would have tried to make it work. I await a DIGITALFOTO Thanos ProC3II for the 4D. The 4D is heavey and I am tubby and old. I know what I have ordered is different, but similar enough for your film to inspire hope that it will work. Your advice that it requires practise is so wonderfully honest, well demonstrated and a point well taken. Thanks again. subbed etc 🙂
The spring tension adjustment knobs are to be adjusted with no support of the gimbal with your lower hand. Holding the gimbal lightly with no up or down pressure you then adjust the tension knobs so that the two parts of the arms are horizontal countering the weight of the gimbal. Once you've done that the gimbal will float with the arms level with just a light grip. If you're pushing the gimbal down (as you show) to get the arms level, then you haven't balanced your gimbal to the arms. I saw nowhere on your video where you adjust the tension of the arms to properly hold the weight of your particular gimbal and have the arms level.
@@fewo00, actually yes I do. Just like all of those type of stabilizers you need to put the camera on the arms and then adjust the tension knobs to get them parallel. Then the weight has room to make the arms hi up and down while your body undulates. I use them always while filming sports on the beach.
@@fewo00, the arms are shorter than most others, but the springs have more tension since they don't stretch as far... So yes, it's no problem getting my rig to balance with the arms level. You must be more careful with your up and down movement since the shorter arms don't have as much compensation travel, but under most circumstances it works well. The metal components and construction are also much better than the cheaper alternatives, as I've worn out several cheaper ones and that is why I tried the Thanos... And I like it much more. The vest is also much lighter and more comfortable than the cheaper ones.
@@FloridaLife I feel like this video is pretty accurate in describing the arm. It's either up or down. And you do have to push it down if you don't want to eliminate the up and down. Not much room or tension in the middle
Oh! You know what? I think I know exactly what they are doing wrong. They are CONFUSING by using that the knob with gear to tilt the gimbal instead of the other one that’s actually MEANT for the tilt. That one doesn’t have gears. The one with gears is just meant to level and lock, while the proper one for tilting you can just loosen. I showed that on my video.
Just used Thanos SE on a three day shoot with the RS2 and it performed well and saved my arms and back! The one thing I wish it had was a quick release pin on the arm which would allow you to keep the gimbal mounted in the Thanos collar but able to easily set the camera down in between takes. Removing it constantly from the collar can be awkward and takes too much time. Appreciate your content, beautiful wife too!
Can you also add a quick release to the removeable legs of the gimbal or to the top of a stand/tripod? That way you could potentially move it from the vest to a stand
Hi, thanks for a great video. I have the thanos se and I wanted to ask you to tell me more about how tightening the knobs for the springs work? How tight should they be? And also is there any way to get the arm to stop swaying about so much? i.e. I'd feel more comfortable using this if the small bits between the springs could be tightened up. When I use the hex key, it doesn't have much effect. Thanks in advance.
There’s no such thing as the “best” adjustment on the vest. Just like a bass player would adjust the instrument’s strap lower or higher if you know what I mean. It depends on body size, weight and preference. Each operator is different.
thx for the reply @ArtVideoProductions, Exactly. The belt may need to be higher or lower to actually provide support, what conditions would we need for guiding us higher or lower? Should we prioritise shoulder strap tightness over belt tightness etc. order of tightening and where things 'should' sit on the body. The only workshops I have seen for DF are simply the ones for balancing the trinity itself, not adjusting the vest so you don't bust your back.
@@slipoch6635 everything on the vest should be snug, no play. With the arm, try first positioning at a higher mode and test it out. The bottom of the vest should wrap your pelvis, not higher.
Thanks for this review. What higher end systems would you consider that are more classical steadicam? Like the Laing Master or Tiffen entry level Aero?
Hello . Thanks for you post . Very interesting. My question about the way you mount your gimbal into the Thanos Arm : you said that we have to mount the black screw facing to us. But on this way it is to use on the right side . Like your video . Your right arm is align to the Thanos arm and your right hand take the gimbal handle . Your left hand is catch the gimbal Correct ? But if I want to use it on this other side … thanos arm align with my left arm… Do I have to mount the gimbal with no black screw facing ? . Thanks for your return !
Hi Alexandre, yes that’s correct. My left hand is to catch the gimbal. Even if I was using an actual Steadicam rig, still, the left hand would be holding on the Sled. Same thing. If you are left handed, you should be able to reverse everything, switching the right hand for the left and place the arm o the opposite side. By following my instructions to what you’ve sen, once you get your Thanos, you’ll get the hang of it easily. On the arm, there are two screws, one that has teeth gears is for LOCKING the gimbal leveled, and the other one facing you is the one that you DON’T need to lock, which allows you to tilt the system. A lot of people reviewing this on UA-cam are confused. They are using the one lock with teeth to tilt (which is wrong) and using the one that has only tension to level the gimbal.
@@ArtVideoProductions Thanks so much for your quick and very clear answer. So, I did right !… for left way ;) Yes, screw story are little confuse on UA-cam concerning this product . To be clear . There are 3 différents screws. 1) the black screw has teeth 🦷. Use only for rotating and level the Gimbal. Need to be looked after find good position . 2) The silver one is to tilt and can be completely unlocked during operation for nice pan and tilt mode gimbal. 3) The other silver screw is to fixe the gimbal in the arm . Are we good ? In my case , arm left side , that will be the silver screw ( facing me) In your case ( arm right side), that will be the black screw teeth 🦷 facing you . Correct ? Thanks again !!
@@GrandPoune when you get your product, once you see it in person and try it out, you’ll see that it’s much simpler than you think (assuming you have used a stabilizer of some sort before). I have 18 years of Steadicam. I had some getting used to transitioning to a gimbal Steadicam. Practice well and you’ll master it. And for the screws and whatnot, again, once you see it for yourself, you’ll see that it’s very simple. Watch my video again for reference regarding those two parts that are concerning you. Lastly, if you’d be kind enough to use my links I’d appreciate it. They don’t cost you nothing extra. It’s just a special link that I receive a small gratification from Amazon / BH affiliate program.
Thank you for this review! Im not sure if I should pick the Thanos-SE or the Thanos-Pro II. There is a kit available of the Thanos-Pro II, it’s only the vest + arm and gimbal tilt adapter for 899 Euros instead of 1400 Euros for the complete Thanos Pro II Kit. 599 Euros Thanos-SE 899 Euros Thanos-Pro II (PROC3II-Kit) Thanos Pro II has the Steadicam-arm. Would you say it’s worth the 300 Euro price difference? I would like to know your opinion on this Thank you for taking the time!
I like the Thanos SE for being a smaller rig. I haven’t personally tried the Pro. What I don’t like about the Thanos SE is the springs on the arm. You have to be a super ninja when walking with it. The springs need improvement as they are not strong enough. They won’t remain in the middle flat mode. The Thanos Pro II seems to have a stronger arm and different design. I would guess by the look of it, it has stronger springs. Hope that helps.
This video is priceless.. thank you so much. This really is the definitive video, not just for this individual product, but the whole range. Absolutely marvellous to have someone who so clearly REALLY knows their craft. I breathe a sigh of relief having spent a considerable time looking for exactly this information and demonstration, authentic, detailed, comprehensive and genuinely entertaining is the cherry on the cake. Sorry, when I finally find what I am looking for I have to impart my delight to the author of the work.
I just returned a Tilta Float, I don't use a gimbal as such, I run the Ronin 4D. The float may be the best thing since sliced bread, but for me it was stupidly small, only a lunatic or the desperate would have tried to make it work.
I await a DIGITALFOTO Thanos ProC3II for the 4D. The 4D is heavey and I am tubby and old. I know what I have ordered is different, but similar enough for your film to inspire hope that it will work. Your advice that it requires practise is so wonderfully honest, well demonstrated and a point well taken.
Thanks again.
subbed etc 🙂
I appreciate very much what you wrote here. Thank you 🙏
Best tutorial I’ve found on the internet so far.
@@Weslleylsm thank you 🙏
The spring tension adjustment knobs are to be adjusted with no support of the gimbal with your lower hand. Holding the gimbal lightly with no up or down pressure you then adjust the tension knobs so that the two parts of the arms are horizontal countering the weight of the gimbal. Once you've done that the gimbal will float with the arms level with just a light grip. If you're pushing the gimbal down (as you show) to get the arms level, then you haven't balanced your gimbal to the arms. I saw nowhere on your video where you adjust the tension of the arms to properly hold the weight of your particular gimbal and have the arms level.
You dont own the thanos se do you....
@@fewo00, actually yes I do. Just like all of those type of stabilizers you need to put the camera on the arms and then adjust the tension knobs to get them parallel. Then the weight has room to make the arms hi up and down while your body undulates. I use them always while filming sports on the beach.
@@FloridaLife not other stabilizers. You use this one and is able to get the tension balanced in the parallel position n not snap up and down?
@@fewo00, the arms are shorter than most others, but the springs have more tension since they don't stretch as far... So yes, it's no problem getting my rig to balance with the arms level. You must be more careful with your up and down movement since the shorter arms don't have as much compensation travel, but under most circumstances it works well. The metal components and construction are also much better than the cheaper alternatives, as I've worn out several cheaper ones and that is why I tried the Thanos... And I like it much more. The vest is also much lighter and more comfortable than the cheaper ones.
@@FloridaLife I feel like this video is pretty accurate in describing the arm. It's either up or down. And you do have to push it down if you don't want to eliminate the up and down. Not much room or tension in the middle
Those 2 extra straps that you’re aren’t using are supposed to be attached to the front of the vest for more comfort.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Thanks brother. 👍👍👍👍👍
I saw on other UA-cam and Amazon reviews how the knob with gears wears out because of friction. Can you verify that?
They are probably doing something wrong. Can you share that UA-cam link here so I can take a look?
Oh! You know what? I think I know exactly what they are doing wrong. They are CONFUSING by using that the knob with gear to tilt the gimbal instead of the other one that’s actually MEANT for the tilt. That one doesn’t have gears. The one with gears is just meant to level and lock, while the proper one for tilting you can just loosen. I showed that on my video.
Just used Thanos SE on a three day shoot with the RS2 and it performed well and saved my arms and back! The one thing I wish it had was a quick release pin on the arm which would allow you to keep the gimbal mounted in the Thanos collar but able to easily set the camera down in between takes. Removing it constantly from the collar can be awkward and takes too much time. Appreciate your content, beautiful wife too!
Can you also add a quick release to the removeable legs of the gimbal or to the top of a stand/tripod? That way you could potentially move it from the vest to a stand
Do you recommend this vest ? Or which one is better for DJI ronin gimbals?
Hi, thanks for a great video. I have the thanos se and I wanted to ask you to tell me more about how tightening the knobs for the springs work? How tight should they be? And also is there any way to get the arm to stop swaying about so much? i.e. I'd feel more comfortable using this if the small bits between the springs could be tightened up. When I use the hex key, it doesn't have much effect. Thanks in advance.
The spring knobs in this unit are not the way it’s supposed to be. They don’t work well at all!
Great video man, be good if you showed something about adjusting the vest itself for best fit.
There’s no such thing as the “best” adjustment on the vest. Just like a bass player would adjust the instrument’s strap lower or higher if you know what I mean. It depends on body size, weight and preference. Each operator is different.
thx for the reply @ArtVideoProductions, Exactly. The belt may need to be higher or lower to actually provide support, what conditions would we need for guiding us higher or lower? Should we prioritise shoulder strap tightness over belt tightness etc. order of tightening and where things 'should' sit on the body. The only workshops I have seen for DF are simply the ones for balancing the trinity itself, not adjusting the vest so you don't bust your back.
@@slipoch6635 everything on the vest should be snug, no play. With the arm, try first positioning at a higher mode and test it out. The bottom of the vest should wrap your pelvis, not higher.
can you use it in fpv/pov mode? asking cuz i always shoot in that mode
@@qiyuantan simply tilt it like you would do without this rig.
Great video. Thank you
@@blaisesmith100 thanks for watching
Perfect explanation man! thanks a lot.
Thanks for this review. What higher end systems would you consider that are more classical steadicam? Like the Laing Master or Tiffen entry level Aero?
The B&H link is the Pro model with a heavier arm and more expensive. I'd be glad to support you with my purchase if you can provide a correct link.
Thanks a lot! I just updated the link. Please let me know if it works. Thanks again!!
How high can you rise the camera with the Thanos se?
Above the head
@@ArtVideoProductions in the lower setting?
Thank you for this video.Very helpful
Thanks man 🙏
Hello . Thanks for you post . Very interesting. My question about the way you mount your gimbal into the Thanos Arm : you said that we have to mount the black screw facing to us. But on this way it is to use on the right side . Like your video . Your right arm is align to the Thanos arm and your right hand take the gimbal handle . Your left hand is catch the gimbal
Correct ?
But if I want to use it on this other side … thanos arm align with my left arm… Do I have to mount the gimbal with no black screw facing ? . Thanks for your return !
Hi Alexandre, yes that’s correct. My left hand is to catch the gimbal. Even if I was using an actual Steadicam rig, still, the left hand would be holding on the Sled. Same thing.
If you are left handed, you should be able to reverse everything, switching the right hand for the left and place the arm o the opposite side.
By following my instructions to what you’ve sen, once you get your Thanos, you’ll get the hang of it easily.
On the arm, there are two screws, one that has teeth gears is for LOCKING the gimbal leveled, and the other one facing you is the one that you DON’T need to lock, which allows you to tilt the system. A lot of people reviewing this on UA-cam are confused. They are using the one lock with teeth to tilt (which is wrong) and using the one that has only tension to level the gimbal.
@@ArtVideoProductions Thanks so much for your quick and very clear answer. So, I did right !… for left way ;)
Yes, screw story are little confuse on UA-cam concerning this product . To be clear . There are 3 différents screws.
1) the black screw has teeth 🦷. Use only for rotating and level the Gimbal. Need to be looked after find good position .
2) The silver one is to tilt and can be completely unlocked during operation for nice pan and tilt mode gimbal.
3) The other silver screw is to fixe the gimbal in the arm .
Are we good ?
In my case , arm left side , that will be the silver screw ( facing me)
In your case ( arm right side), that will be the black screw teeth 🦷 facing you . Correct ?
Thanks again !!
@@GrandPoune when you get your product, once you see it in person and try it out, you’ll see that it’s much simpler than you think (assuming you have used a stabilizer of some sort before). I have 18 years of Steadicam. I had some getting used to transitioning to a gimbal Steadicam. Practice well and you’ll master it. And for the screws and whatnot, again, once you see it for yourself, you’ll see that it’s very simple. Watch my video again for reference regarding those two parts that are concerning you.
Lastly, if you’d be kind enough to use my links I’d appreciate it. They don’t cost you nothing extra. It’s just a special link that I receive a small gratification from Amazon / BH affiliate program.
Thank you for this review! Im not sure if I should pick the Thanos-SE or the Thanos-Pro II. There is a kit available of the Thanos-Pro II, it’s only the vest + arm and gimbal tilt adapter for 899 Euros instead of 1400 Euros for the complete Thanos Pro II Kit.
599 Euros Thanos-SE
899 Euros Thanos-Pro II (PROC3II-Kit)
Thanos Pro II has the Steadicam-arm.
Would you say it’s worth the 300 Euro price difference?
I would like to know your opinion on this
Thank you for taking the time!
I like the Thanos SE for being a smaller rig. I haven’t personally tried the Pro. What I don’t like about the Thanos SE is the springs on the arm. You have to be a super ninja when walking with it. The springs need improvement as they are not strong enough. They won’t remain in the middle flat mode. The Thanos Pro II seems to have a stronger arm and different design. I would guess by the look of it, it has stronger springs. Hope that helps.
hey, where did you find the 900 euro for thanos pro 2 kit?
Also the Thanos pro ii is cool but will take a lot longer to setup every time you want to use it
Obrigado pelo review, saudações do Brasil. Filmo videoclips por aqui.
@@BlackFlamePictures valeu primo!
Does the camera come with it?
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