@@OfficialAceAura For me, I learn from videos like these. Also, after discovering arpegios, my playing totally changed. I was able to play and chords, play different chord positions, etc. Try Shredmaster Scott, if you're looking for some really deep knowledge. Guitarmastery, Rick Beato, are also really good.
It is obvious ,that essential is ability to play music( doesnt matter if its4, 5 , 6 , 7, 8 , 9 string instrument) , theory is just helping you to ' see ' combinations of notes in context of previous and next sounds.
Dave its about pickups. I REAALLY recomend you to buy some fishman pickups that tosin is using now. They have a very rich sound and flexibility like hell. Its an inovation in guitar building. I cant listen to anything else but fishman pickups. You just have a more true and natural tone to begin with...
i have a rg8 with the stock pickups which are generally regarded as pretty terrible but with brand new strings i can get a similar tone (until they go dead). I've also found using a thinner string helps with the tone i used to use a 80 gauge for the 8th string i now use a 11-74 set which is so much clearer.
oh absolutely. Love hevy devy :) in fact when I was suggesting that Tosin Abasi put out a quiet album, I had Townsend's "Ghost" in my mind. Love the guys work
I love Tosin because he's almost too good to be modest and down to earth yet he still is, even explains something as simple as his tuning when most people of this caliber guitar playing are just in their own world.
basically if you take the prefix "prog" from the word "progressive" (since what he plays is called progressive metal) and the suffix "gnosis" from the word "diagnosis" (which means the identification of something) and put them together it creates "Prog-nosis". it means to break down his progressive style of play. hope that helps!
The eight string is another string not just for heavy riffs but for the dynamic of the lower string you can play the natural scale, it's just an extended reach guitar stop the hate
i know what you meant, the 8 string (or the last string close to your chin) are usually use for breakdown in heavy music standard. although the tone is low, still comes in handy somehow especialy when it comes to making a new fresh riff no kidding
Cyborg Rabbit Personally no. You can play it like any other guitar, and just view it as a guitar with more strings, since the fretboard is essentially repetition. Or you can choose to view it as a bass and guitar spliced together. Or even treat it as an entirely new instrument. As far as sound goes, it's an interesting timbre for sure. With the added lower register you have access to richer, fuller chords. I find that it lends itself to tapping very well too, since you have all that extra real estate on the fretboard. For me the extra range enhanced my inspiration. But they're not for everyone. Definitely try one out before you think of purchasing one.
***** Very cool, thank you for your detailed description. If i ever come across one, i'll try it out, but for now i only have access to a 6 string, which in and of itself i have yet to even scratch the surface of :P
I was to eager to get an 8 string to try all these riffs so I rushed into the first one I could afford at the time, Ibanez rg8 for around $500, and I regret it :( I should've waited and got myself a TAM10 or a RG2228.
I dont like all animals as leaders stuff, like I dont like the more djenty sound, but I love it how Toni Abashi combines prog and metal with jazz, on an 8 string. he actually plays 8 strings rather than some 8 stringers or 7 stringers who only use 1 to 4 strings.
Thing about those 8 stringers is that the bottom 2 notes tend to sound a bit flabby at the bottom of the neck. I guess you can counteract that by not using em, but for me, cleans are suited well to good ol 6 strings
I really love the clean tone, its very clear and articulate. However, i agree with a previous comment, which stated that he should use higher gauge for the 7th and 8th strings, it sound kinda unbalanced. But maybe its because the sound is too bassy in nature, it is a low E in the end ;p
pick up violin or other stringed instruments not using frets cello viola bass especially contrabass will help you with stretching in my experience learning contrabass and cello before i ever picked up guitar was a godsend guitar is so much easier once you can play a fretless instrument
My word..yes you could play the majority of this on a six string...the bits that dont use the bottom two strings that is.most stanswrd open chords dont uee the low E too.Am, A, C, F, D ad Infinitum. .The strings are there to express yourself when needed. There's a lot of bore on the net about 7, 8 string guitars. Wish I had the cash for a high rnd one.
Thinking about getting some guitar lessons still intermediate. Should I get a 8 string while having my 6 or should learn theory first before getting to 8?
Joskun Tosin said multiple times that you should be comfortable with your fretboard on a 6 six strings before anything else. He said he even played with a 7 strings guitar for 5 or 6 years before even thinking about adding the 8 string. In my opinion if your plan is to get a 8 string guitar some day, I'd better be comfortable with the 7 string first (not just for low rythm parts but also for chord voicings) and then add the 8 string. But hey, do what you want mate.
+ifeelitbro I would entirely whole heatedly agee. He's just using the extra strings as an extension of a foundation of his knowledge. Learn all the positions of Maj/min I do 3 note per, but the caged sys has it's uses. See how pentatonics sit in each, and the arpeggios. If you do that, the inversion chords are just simple.
Yeah some people tune the 8 string differently though like Rusty Cooley does the High A thing B E A D G B E A I've heard of some bands taking it a step further and trying to get 2 higher strings E A D G B E A D I don't understand the use for lower tunings though, in my opinion the low F# or low E like some people do is low enough for a good enough Low end.
Amazing video, first and foremost. But secondly, if the song he is playing starts with a BMaj7, why does he say he plays both Ab minor 7 and C# minor? I realize there are things such as enharmonic notes, but if he is playing in the Key of B Major, shouldn't they be G# minor 7 and C# minor, or if he's choosing to play in the dreadful Cb major, wouldn't it be Ab minor 7 and Db minor? Including both a #'d chord and a b'd chord that both occur naturally in the key, to me, seems weird/confusing.
Wish he showed next part of point to point... what im playing doesn't seem to match, especially the timing. In fact my timing is off for the whole song 🤨
He plays an 8 string guitar, same strings as a 6 string with two extra bass strings, a B and an F#. There's not a big need for bass in bands that use 7 and 8 string guitars all the time because the guitars really blend the two instruments.
Seem's like doing Barre chords would be pretty difficult. That is unless you have large long fingers of coarse. I wonder if it would lead to carpel tunnel syndrome eventually.
I never really cared too much for 8 string guitars. I get the idea behind having more strings for the extra fullness but it just kinda seems like overkill to me
I'm 6'1 and have short fingers compared for my size. I know plenty of people shorter than I that have larger hands. That being said I can play an 8 string with a 28" scale perfectly fine.
I wouldn't say a bass, but a classical guitar would be closer. I don't have big hands either, I honestly can't tell you why I like wide necks, they just seem more comfortable and natural to me.
is he seriously just showing the most basic fucking chord voicings that any intermediate player who takes a few lessons would learn? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLAYING SOME CHORDS.
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Alternative title to this video: Tosin Abasi Sits Here and Just Shows You Really F***ing Cool-Sounding Chords
+DiscoKatari I would watch that video
basically, yeah
I love how he's relaxed but you can still feel the pride he has for his compositions, they're his babies...
Tosin is the reason I started studying theory. It kinda makes sense when shit starts making sense. He is the man.
Are there any particular resources that were especially helpful for learning theory?
@@OfficialAceAura For me, I learn from videos like these. Also, after discovering arpegios, my playing totally changed. I was able to play and chords, play different chord positions, etc.
Try Shredmaster Scott, if you're looking for some really deep knowledge. Guitarmastery, Rick Beato, are also really good.
@@OfficialAceAura Adam Neely too.
@@22mingus he’s better for piano theory
@@lethalslaughterband5498 (western) music theory is (western) music theory.
I die every time I hear that A maj #11
a Maj "7" #11* XD
A MAJ 7 9 #11/Bb ASCENDING ARPEGGIO IN 18/3
Physister A MAJ 9 #11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
Tosin is such a boss; he explains guitar in a way a mathematician explains their favorite theorem
He's as intelligent as any mathematician
This guy is nothing short of a guitar genius
He has mathematical and an artistic mind that works in harmony he is batovin Michele Angelo level
It is obvious ,that essential is ability to play music( doesnt matter if its4, 5 , 6 , 7, 8 , 9 string instrument) , theory is just helping you to ' see ' combinations of notes in context of previous and next sounds.
tosin's music is so ahead of our time he released an april video in march
I love Toast in a basket
that guitar is just ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
need the tone he uses, the clarity of each string is ridiculous
Dave its about pickups. I REAALLY recomend you to buy some fishman pickups that tosin is using now. They have a very rich sound and flexibility like hell. Its an inovation in guitar building. I cant listen to anything else but fishman pickups. You just have a more true and natural tone to begin with...
i have a rg8 with the stock pickups which are generally regarded as pretty terrible but with brand new strings i can get a similar tone (until they go dead). I've also found using a thinner string helps with the tone i used to use a 80 gauge for the 8th string i now use a 11-74 set which is so much clearer.
dude, your guitar is beautiful.
Tosin is one of those players that...despite how advanced I might be, im just like wtf? He is on Holdsworth's level in terms of originality.
he's a funk player in a metal world.
@@azzans jazz
every morning i weep because i know i will never be as great as tosin abasi.
man that tone is just something to love
really liked these arpeggios
sounds enigmatic
oh absolutely. Love hevy devy :) in fact when I was suggesting that Tosin Abasi put out a quiet album, I had Townsend's "Ghost" in my mind. Love the guys work
I love his knowledge of Theory. Makes me appreciate him a whole lot more.
Point to point is such a beautiful song.
Didn't you watch this video? Tosin does it a lot!
point to point...one of my favorite songs...EVER!!!!! Tosin........please train me in your musical ways!
Beautiful guitar!
god how i love this guy ....
point to point is musical heaven
I love extended range instruments. So amazing so full, so many chords to come up with!
i will eventually own an 8 string and it will be because of this guy \m/
I love Tosin because he's almost too good to be modest and down to earth yet he still is, even explains something as simple as his tuning when most people of this caliber guitar playing are just in their own world.
that guitar has such a beautiful tone
What a gorgeous guitar.
This guitar sounds so crystal clear!,
You just blew my mind
That Em9 chord that he plays is the most beautiful chord I have ever heard in my life.
Tosin one of the few who I love watching playing a 7 or 8 strings guitar.
he always has a killer clean tone
That lower string gives so much more variety in tone to his chords they sounds so full.
I play 8-string for nearly 1 year, and it feels very comfortable.
That tone sounds so awesome :3
what a beautiful pick guard
So, waiting for part 2 of that song.
i find his tone extremely relaxing.
He needs to put out a quiet album like this, would send me right to sleep.
He is reasonably skilled
basically if you take the prefix "prog" from the word "progressive" (since what he plays is called progressive metal) and the suffix "gnosis" from the word "diagnosis" (which means the identification of something) and put them together it creates "Prog-nosis". it means to break down his progressive style of play. hope that helps!
that guitar is awesome as hell.
Always good to listen to new Ideas! Practice everything every way you know how and some you don't! lol
That riff almost sounds better slow. You can really hear each note a lot better. Very cool
This is the most music theory I have ever heard out of him.
The eight string is another string not just for heavy riffs but for the dynamic of the lower string you can play the natural scale, it's just an extended reach guitar stop the hate
brilliant lesson.
DAT TONE
wow that was awesome, I really dig that point to point riff!
i know what you meant, the 8 string (or the last string close to your chin) are usually use for breakdown in heavy music standard. although the tone is low, still comes in handy somehow especialy when it comes to making a new fresh riff no kidding
after my 7 string, getting me an 8... he those cleans are absolutely beautiful. i gotta up my theory, he's moving chords like it ain't shit.
it's the guitar solo from "CAFO" by Animals as leaders.
Waiting on the Acoustic version for the "8" string.
Easily one of my favorite Animals as Leaders riffs there.
Where he buy it those hands? TT
Tosin Abasi is fucking magical.
who here actually has an 8 string guitar? How do you like yours, has it helped your creative process?
I do, and why yes, it has.
I do
Love it
Yes
Do you find that the tension of the 7th and 8th string is incompatible with the tonal tenor of the guitar?
Cyborg Rabbit Personally no. You can play it like any other guitar, and just view it as a guitar with more strings, since the fretboard is essentially repetition. Or you can choose to view it as a bass and guitar spliced together. Or even treat it as an entirely new instrument. As far as sound goes, it's an interesting timbre for sure. With the added lower register you have access to richer, fuller chords. I find that it lends itself to tapping very well too, since you have all that extra real estate on the fretboard. For me the extra range enhanced my inspiration. But they're not for everyone. Definitely try one out before you think of purchasing one.
***** Very cool, thank you for your detailed description. If i ever come across one, i'll try it out, but for now i only have access to a 6 string, which in and of itself i have yet to even scratch the surface of :P
I need this guitar so bad! Just don't have the $4000 for it :(
Story of my life
2005, anniversary model :)
I was to eager to get an 8 string to try all these riffs so I rushed into the first one I could afford at the time, Ibanez rg8 for around $500, and I regret it :( I should've waited and got myself a TAM10 or a RG2228.
It's practically an rg2228. Just with gold hardware and cooler finish.
rg2228 doesnt have dimarzio pickups, parallel pickup settings and a wenge neck...and such a cool look so it's definitely worth the 2200$ more
I love that tuning
this applies to my life so much...
Dat clean tone..
I would love a good explination on the 2nd half of that riff. Just theory wise. I'm not entirely sure what mode is moves to or if it stays in Lydian.
those are nice sounding chords
damn right im gona book the date
I dont like all animals as leaders stuff, like I dont like the more djenty sound, but I love it how Toni Abashi combines prog and metal with jazz, on an 8 string. he actually plays 8 strings rather than some 8 stringers or 7 stringers who only use 1 to 4 strings.
It's just a locking bridge, so there's no string slippage behind the nut, and he can fine tune once it's locked down. It doesn't function as a tremolo
That guitar is gorgeous! That is all.
Thing about those 8 stringers is that the bottom 2 notes tend to sound a bit flabby at the bottom of the neck. I guess you can counteract that by not using em, but for me, cleans are suited well to good ol 6 strings
A major 7 # 11, of course. I totally know what you're talking about Tosin.
yeah! now i get it, thanks bro!
I almost shot Coke from my nose when I read your comment. Well said, man.
this guitar is fucking beautiful
WOW! Does playing such a wide neck hurt your hand any? The extended range is indeed enticing though.
Amazing
I really love the clean tone, its very clear and articulate. However, i agree with a previous comment, which stated that he should use higher gauge for the 7th and 8th strings, it sound kinda unbalanced. But maybe its because the sound is too bassy in nature, it is a low E in the end ;p
pick up violin or other stringed instruments not using frets cello viola bass especially contrabass will help you with stretching in my experience learning contrabass and cello before i ever picked up guitar was a godsend guitar is so much easier once you can play a fretless instrument
My word..yes you could play the majority of this on a six string...the bits that dont use the bottom two strings that is.most stanswrd open chords dont uee the low E too.Am, A, C, F, D ad Infinitum. .The strings are there to express yourself when needed. There's a lot of bore on the net about 7, 8 string guitars. Wish I had the cash for a high rnd one.
He seems like a nice guy!
Thinking about getting some guitar lessons still intermediate. Should I get a 8 string while having my 6 or should learn theory first before getting to 8?
Joskun Tosin said multiple times that you should be comfortable with your fretboard on a 6 six strings before anything else. He said he even played with a 7 strings guitar for 5 or 6 years before even thinking about adding the 8 string. In my opinion if your plan is to get a 8 string guitar some day, I'd better be comfortable with the 7 string first (not just for low rythm parts but also for chord voicings) and then add the 8 string. But hey, do what you want mate.
makes sense, thanks mate
+Joskun learn theory. That's way more important.
+ifeelitbro
I would entirely whole heatedly agee. He's just using the extra strings as an extension of a foundation of his knowledge. Learn all the positions of Maj/min I do 3 note per, but the caged sys has it's uses. See how pentatonics sit in each, and the arpeggios. If you do that, the inversion chords are just simple.
Get the instrument you want, and learn how to play it.
sick tone
Yeah some people tune the 8 string differently though
like Rusty Cooley does the High A thing
B E A D G B E A
I've heard of some bands taking it a step further and trying to get 2 higher strings
E A D G B E A D
I don't understand the use for lower tunings though, in my opinion the low F# or low E like some people do is low enough for a good enough Low end.
Soo badass!
When you said "first song I wrote on the 8th string", I was thinking you meant it would be a song that I could play... I was wrong.
Tosin must be the only 8 string Guitar player that utilizes all the 8 strings at the same time
Amazing video, first and foremost. But secondly, if the song he is playing starts with a BMaj7, why does he say he plays both Ab minor 7 and C# minor? I realize there are things such as enharmonic notes, but if he is playing in the Key of B Major, shouldn't they be G# minor 7 and C# minor, or if he's choosing to play in the dreadful Cb major, wouldn't it be Ab minor 7 and Db minor? Including both a #'d chord and a b'd chord that both occur naturally in the key, to me, seems weird/confusing.
dat contrast
Try using headphones :) seemed the same way to me as well until I realized I was listening to this through my shitty built-in laptop speakers
Wish he showed next part of point to point... what im playing doesn't seem to match, especially the timing. In fact my timing is off for the whole song 🤨
0:45 thats like the better call saul chord intro
He plays an 8 string guitar, same strings as a 6 string with two extra bass strings, a B and an F#. There's not a big need for bass in bands that use 7 and 8 string guitars all the time because the guitars really blend the two instruments.
Seem's like doing Barre chords would be pretty difficult. That is unless you have large long fingers of coarse. I wonder if it would lead to carpel tunnel syndrome eventually.
Are there any chords he is NOT able to play?^^
I don't know where the problem is for many guys here! Why do people hate him? Is he too good?
it's what got me through university!
I never really cared too much for 8 string guitars. I get the idea behind having more strings for the extra fullness but it just kinda seems like overkill to me
I'm 6'1 and have short fingers compared for my size. I know plenty of people shorter than I that have larger hands. That being said I can play an 8 string with a 28" scale perfectly fine.
GOD DAMN this guy is classy as fuck.
What is the point of these guitars having edge zero vibrato systems and then locking them down? Why don't they use the tight end hard-tail bridge?
I wouldn't say a bass, but a classical guitar would be closer. I don't have big hands either, I honestly can't tell you why I like wide necks, they just seem more comfortable and natural to me.
is he seriously just showing the most basic fucking chord voicings that any intermediate player who takes a few lessons would learn? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLAYING SOME CHORDS.