Easy 8 String Techniques - Guitar Lesson
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In this video, Tosin Abasi discusses techniques and the intricacies of the 8 string guitar such as his personal setup and approach to playing.
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i love this guy... he's a musician's musician. he doesn't try to sell you lies like "oh i just picked up a guitar and never learned music". he's up front about the fact that he knows what he's doing, he can tell you exactly what he's doing, and never looks hung over or anything.
when he's tired of touring, he needs to become a college professor.
Anybody else just say out loud "wow, the young Tosin!" This guy inspired me to play 8 string!
Im beginning to think he was good at guitar when he was learning how to walk. Also I saw Tosin on a video with the word 'EASY' in the title and was immediately skeptical.
Gives "Bar chords are difficult" a whole new meaning.
I'm glad to hear someone who owns one of these actually using the entire neck instead of palm muting the first 3 frets and shredding at the bottom lol
***** it's even more boring if you try playing it on guitar lol, the guitar is background music in djent...drums and vocals make up for what the riff is lacking
***** You talking S on Tosin?
how did i know there would be at least one comment talking about using the entire range of the guitar....we get it....don't get an 8 string if you're not going to go to Berkley, or music elitists will shun you.
***** how about if you want to further your playing style and feel you want to add another string or two...you do it. Because fuck everyone else. Why should you need someones approval? As for changing your fretting style, i think not. There is nothing wrong with jumping from 7 to 6 to 8 and back and forth and so on. It will only make you more versatile, not cripple you. Yes you can get some of the same results with detuning thicker gauge strings on other instruments. But who cares. Do what makes you happy as a musician.
Or get one and chug zeros like 99% new djent bands
"The change from seven string to eight string was relatively minor,"
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relatively minor...
relative minor
chord
THEORY PUNS!!!!!!!!!
Good to see artists playing different styles rather than metal on the 7- 8 strings. Very nice
Just saying, Tosin is the lead guitarist for Animals as Leaders. A metal band.
ARCTIC9924 i think he means just playing shitty djent
Yeah but animals as Leaders is djent, progressive metal and jazz fusion in one. But Tosin is More progressive than djent in my opinion
Azen Berries shitty didn’t
Um you are anti me
MESHUGGAH FOR LIVE
I had sex before my dad I love your user name
I have been listening to AAL for about 5 months now, and I have never heard Tosin talk.
+MegaEmmanuel09 I thought for sure he'd have an odd accent... Apparently hes a Marylander like myself. Him talking is like an average day in my case. Its so weird
Dude has a wealth of instructional stuff online
Wait till you hear him sing!!!
what band is he from?
@@ambrojai2535 animals as leaders!
This man is absolutely insane. Literally, it's just amazing watching him play. So many players today are stuck in the whole power chord after power chord, then maybe the same generic sweep you've heard a thousand times. Modern metal has made stuff like tapping and sweeping like a madman common place. Guys like Tosin, Misha Mansoor, and so many others, are honestly just mind blowing.
Tosin has really changed the way I approach extended range guitar! For a long time I hated it because I thought it was just really low power chords but now I see that you can do many different things with an 8 string! Tosin and Javier of AAL as well as Rob Scallon have made me want to buy an 8 string guitar! \m/
Tobin is a very innovative guitarist. I like how he uses the 8-string to play jazz chord melodies and slap bass at the same time It's a very fresh approach to say the least.
I played an 8 stringer for many years before moving on to a 10 stringer. Most people tune an 8 stringer as a traditional 6 stringer with 2 additional bass strings. Depending on what you're trying to accomplish that may or may not work for you.
I can only speak from my own experience as a solo instrumentalist. I went through three different tunings with my 8 stringer and there is only one tuning I'd recommend for an 8 stringer scaled at about 65cm. That would be a tuning of 'A', 'D', 'G', 'C', 'F', 'a', 'd', 'g' Low to High. What this is ,,, is extended range Lute tuning! This is very good for the keys of F, C, G, and D. Also very good for playing guitar music in dropped D tuning as you don't have to retune any strings.
Here's the sweet thing ,,, if you capo the 2nd fret you get a tuning of 'B', 'E', 'A', 'D', 'G', 'b', 'e', 'a' Low to high. Six string guitar tuning in the middle with an additional low 'B' note on the bass side ,,, and an additional high 'a' note on the treble side. Two very useful tunings on one guitar. All for the price of one guitar.
I Hope this helps guitarists understand how best to take advantage of the instrument and save time. For me ,,, I had to learn this the hard way.
Jimi Jones String Greedy? That's a new one I haven't heard before! ,,, But a question comes to mind ,,, when you look under the hood of a piano you'll see many many strings. Would you also call a pianist String Greedy? What about a Harp? ,,, Would you also call a Harpist string greedy? What about a Dulcimer? ,,, Just curious!
But on a more serious note ,,, I think the ten stringer like the eight stringer hasn't really caught on because guitarists don't know how to tune their instrument to take advantage of the true strengths of the instrument. The only reason I know how to do it is because I've been at this for some forty years. So I know a few things ,,, but it didn't start out that way. Tuning systems for guitars of various string counts is not a topic commonly taught.
Jimi Jones I'm way ahead of you! ,,, I've been at this for some forty years. I started out on six stringers like most everyone else. Then a seven stringer ,,, then an eight stringer and now a ten stringer. I've studied tunings ,,, and not just more strings in the bass range ,,, but also additional strings in the treble range. I've also studied scale lengths and how they affect playing. I've played those instruments and I know much about what works and what doesn't work.
From all that I've come to the conclusion that for other than strumming chords ,,, six string guitars are crap! But most guitarists wouldn't know that as we have mostly a six string guitar culture the world over. Most guitarists don't know ,,, and they don't know that they don't know. Therefore they can't ask for anything better because all they've ever seen is mostly six string guitars. And that's all they know! And so it goes.
When I say all that I include myself from my youth. About 1976 I walked into a guitar shop that had an eight stringer and a ten stringer on display. I was new to guitars in those days and believe you me I was clueless as to how to play either of them. I've learned a thing or two since then.
+fernsemer yes, the lute tuning is good! the old trick with quarters and a fixing third is far more advanced as people sometimes may think.
but I'd personnally put the 3rd interval in the mid, that way my fingerings are guitarcompatible from the bass onward, it is just the wax i imagine my scapes: I'd rather have them the same on the low notes: the extra 2 strings are on top, and form an easy extension. I'll start my 8string adventures next week.
Paul Driessen If I understand you correctly ,,, You'd move your 3rd over one string in the bass direction! Correct?
Okay! ,,, Let's do some analyzing. Standard six string guitar tuning is a tuning in 4ths of four bass strings and two treble strings divided by a 3rd between the 2nd and 3rd strings. Most guitarists notice it would be great to have one additional bass string even if they do nothing about it. It would solve many a fingering issue and the extra bass range is a delight to the ear.
Standard six string Lute tuning is in 4ths a 3rd higher than a guitar with three treble strings and three bass strings. With your 3rd between your 3rd and 4th strings. Much better treble range and playability as you're not having to jack up and down the fretboard so much for the higher notes. However! ,,, not so good for the bass range as you can't go as low as you could before and you'll be severely limited in the key signatures, harmony and bass support you can do. So unless you've got a bass player around to take up the slack ,,, You'll need two additional bass strings.
You might wonder why I make such a fuss about the importance of five bass strings. That came about from analyzing Violin/Mandolin tuning. These instruments have tremendous treble clef octave range and that is partly why they are such great treble clef instruments. They get that because with just four strings they're tuned in 5ths. That short scale length makes that possible. But if you have a reason to tune in 4ths instead of 5ths ,,, such as a longer scale length ,,, then you'd better increase the string count by at least one to keep that great octave range.
I hope this helps and gives you something to think about.
fernsemer Thanks for sharing your view! Yes, we need quarters with our scale and chords aspirations.
My road is a bit different: I'm playing lots of baritone guitar, tuned at guitar tuning, one octave below. Adding 2 higher strings a and d', would make my mental image (CAGED forms and scales) to extend in one direction.
So actually my third interval would be between string 4 & 5, which might seem very strange, but is actually an expanded lute tuning: 4/4 instead of 3/3..
I've came up with this tuning a few days ago, and now I'm going to buy a 8 string, it seemed unnecessary to buy a 8 string without knowing how to play it: (I had a student once with 8 string, and the instrument baffled me, because I had no image to cope with it at the time)
The bass guitar is a subset of guitartuning, and the guitartuning is a subset of my new tuning. For me it is very important to have the shapes aligned at the bass string.
Love how he gets away with being metal as Thor's left testicle while dressed like 20's gangster
Great talk on extended range 8 string ideas. Nice to see a young player not just flubbing away in the low register and actually sharing some cool melodic ideas.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tosin is now the biggest influence on my life! I barely play a 6 string guitar and only have about a couple years under my belt and mostly play metal/blues. I really want to play a 7 string guitar and possibly going to 8 string guitar and tune it like Tosin. His finger picking and bass sounding playing while playing guitar parts at the same time is genius. I can't think of any other guitarist that utilizes his techniques. I been listening to a lot of instrumental stuff but his stuff tops all
7:08 "I-I don't bend very often... so it's... it's cool ;)"
Haha, I love how he started grinning at that! Oh you!
At last! An 8 string player that isn't a metal maniac.
+Alex Hollins He plays metal. lol but yes. he thankfully is not a maniac. XD
Alex Hollins he plays in animals as leaders
he... he does play metal
He plays quite a few TRAM riffs in this video. If you haven't checked them out, do so... now.
I love how some of the riffs in this video are now songs on Weightless and songs for TRAM
4:00 "i think of it as a guitar with lots of strings on it"
technical terms ftw!
and 12 years later, I decided to bought my 8 string and learn some of his licks. Thanks for inspiring me Tosin!
his thumb is faster than my fucking picking
I recently got an 8 string guitar and it definitely is a strain on the left hand that I'm still getting used to. In some ways it really is like having a bass and a guitar at your disposal and it really has so many new sounds available.
I really dislike "shredding" and extremely technical playing but Tosin is so unconventional and inspiring it not only makes me want to become a more technical player it also makes me want to put myself in the headspace of approaching guitar completely differently to how I have been the past seven years. This guy is one of the most groundbreaking players on the planet right now and is completely understated. I'd love to see one of his clinics!
There are so many smutty puns, dunno if they're intentional or not. But gripping girth, not bending that often, etc. Just made me chuckle. Aaaanyway- Tosin is a god, obviously.
I bought one and I was used to it the day after and it feels weird to play a 6 string
after i bought my 7, a six string almost feels like a toy because it feels so small
ace bass ***** I personally have no problem going back and forth.
Rylan Royal its not a problem its just strange and it takes me a minute maybe two
same problem here.
ace bass
THAT I can understand. Although now that I have a 7 string with a 26.5 scale length, now I can understand the whole feeling like a toy thing when I play six strings.
the x series is great. it combines the headroom and punch of actives, and the tone and clarity of passives. best of both worlds.
Damn I love his personality.
Am I the only one who just strolls over to this video every once in awhile to revel in Tosin's awesomeness?
I'd love to see a collaboration between him and Les Claypool.
I've played for 18 years and I've owned my 8 string for 3 months.. Wow..... I finally looked around on the net for some inspiring videos on this guitar. I figured 3 months would let me get comfortable with my new guitar.. It's a Hell Raiser C-8 Special, my others are 2008 Ibanez SA w/ crazy custom work, p/ups 'n such, as well as a '98 Gibson Explorer ((I Love it)),
back to the point....
I'm now comfortable with my 8 string and this was a great lesson... never thought to use that ULTRA LOW E
transition was "relativly minor" see what you did there
Jesus Christ lol
This man cannot and will not be stopped, he is a genius!!!!
Thank You Tosin, just bought one in Aust. $315 to check it all out and you're the first go-to guy for me. Now I know where to start.. BUT , short finger s shouldn't be a prob? yeah? hmmm.
if you put your thumb in the correct positions then there is no problem.
I have extremely short fingers but I can Barre way past the end of the fretboard with proper thumb placement.
Playing guitar isn't a competition. seeing people doing awesome things with this instrument is the reason why I started to play and I will never leave it!
That was groovy in the beginning of his guitar playing.
Mechacelzi It's actually a song from the collab band he did called T.R.A.M. Name of the song is Seven Ways Till Sunday.
Jessi Rogers thanks
i met him last saturday on guadalajara, mexico. he's a very down to the earth guy, pretty humble and friendly, as well as Javier Reyes :) it was awesome haha
toastin abasement
toast in a basin
navecamnedia your fired
I love his attitude towards playing guitar, a very smart guy and very talented with no ego at all. And a cool taste in fashion
Love the hat..
very intelligently well spoken this guy..im a new fan..... much rsspect 2 u sir
4:41 if meshuggah had a good bass player as guitarist.
"I dont bend very often" that line right there changed my playing completely
I thought he was really little, then he says its got a 28" scale length! :o)
I just got accepted to Berklee for guitar. I play bass too, but only started recently. I have played guitar and violin in many different ensembles, and the bass is always the starting block of the foundation.
Excellent video; it was great! Thanks for uploading it. :-D
I Just ordered my first 8 string. I got the Jackson X series Dinky Archtop DKAF8. I can't sleep. I need it to be here yesterday.
1:37 Nitpicking here, but a major chord can't be a power chord, since it is major, and power chords don't have the 3rd.
He might of meant bar chord as he said bar chord after power chord
However he is playing a major 7 at the top of the chord. so he is playing a R-5-R-5-7 type of chord.
No idea if youre right, but you have some balls to question this guy, hes like a guitar guru or whateever..
TresThatShredderGuy It's a guitar player way of thinking. Not putting the third is weird for classical musician, at least in theory.
PaveLowExpert If you know your shit, you can go up against anyone. Furthermore, I find that the internet tends to make myths very quickly. No disrespect to Tosin here, but we are quick to deify him.
Yeah,a book about 7 and 8 string tricks!
He's an absolute genious!
Good job brother
this man makes me want an 8 string even more. Usually i don't like them, but Tosin makes me want one so bad.
What's the name of that song that he was playing on the beginning?
It's T.R.A.M. - Seven Ways Till Sunday
Really great band,check them out!
Unlike a lot of players out there right now this guy obviously has a firm grasp of theory. It is refreshing to hear someone who actually knows what the hell they are talking about. I'm not hating on the guys who don't know the math behind the music so to speak. I just think it's cool that he knows his shit.
"I Can Fix That"
-Holes
i just found out about about this guy like 10 minutes ago, and he's already one of my heroes..
He says "you know" a lot.
As a songwriter, I was totally glad to learn about 8 string. I now want one, now that I can see the difference, and the compliment to my songwriting and live performance.. Systematic isn't always the name of the game, because a performance lasts now and forever. He totally made me want one. Great presentation. Tosin THANKS, whens the next show?
Well time to burn my guitar..
lol yep
If you think this fucking chump is even decent at guitar, go check out Andy James.
FusedPower Sorry bro, no way. Andy James is awesome, but no legend. Tosin on the other hand..
Yeah, Tosin Abasi has been in the industry for how many years now? Andy James has JUST been discovered and is doing his whole academy thing, and is being praised by John fucking Petrucci. Who's no legend now?
Lol Steve Vai praises Tosin
as one of his favorites. Andy is great, I use his vids all the time to learn shit, but his writing is nowhere near Tosin's level, Tosin's style in the context he uses it is its own genre, I can't say that for Andy. I guess "pioneer" would be a more accurate word than "legend" ;)
He's got an interesting, almost jazz fusion feel to his style of playing. Very technical, but very offbeat too, and it still sounds melodic. The way he taps bass lines with his left hand and melodies with his right is very reminiscent of Stanley Jordan. I'll have to make it a point to check out his band.
Um , its kinda um, um , so , um , well tune it , um , pretty much um, e minor , um, its like , um , scales but , um interval um
8 string... uh e uhhh... e minor uhhh low e uh.. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Best review I've seen on this instrument so far
Wow. I have to say friend it's not just the guitar. You are a great guitar player and on that handheld tuneable piano. A full octave on a guitar, that's unreal. Good job.
This is possibly the most thorough and informative guitar review I've ever seen, and for an instrument I had many questions about. Thank you, and very well done. :-)
This guitar is a perfect hybrid between the standart guitar and the bass guitar. And he combined both tecniques.
Its nice to see people online with a brain. Thank you
I didn't know eights stringers even existed until I had a dream about one the other night. I looked them up and now I'm here and I want one!!!!
I normally hate all Ibanez guitars/basses I play, but I picked up one of these at a shop and damn it sounded good. The one I played had passive pickups though, and I like those. And Tosin is amazing.
hes such an amazing guitarist and he sounds like a really down to earth person. Tosin you are freaking awesome!!!
i cried at 4:03 - 4:19. so amazing. actually i cry anytime he plays. he's a phenomenol musician.
THIS is why 8 string guitars are fucking awesome. Not the 8 string deathcore noise, dugga dugga breakdowns at 10 bpm. Obnoxious. This right here, is true musicianship. Tosin is the man.
Even though I don't know theory, I understand him. He explains things better than most musicians.
@sixstringfretter 7 string guitar found its birth in jazz, for when the bassist began to solo in the higher range. Metal grabbed onto it so they wouldn't have to tune to drop C anymore.
Also, the instrument you're talking about is called the Chapman Stick.
never discouraged. maybe techno shock; but respect indeed. you gotta give him a nod for the sheer skill. nothing to do with color...god bless anyone and everyone. pick up any instrument & you have a world of expression at your fingertips for your entire life. i respect all musicians on all levels. i choose to learn from everyone, but be myself. i dont strive for technical perfection, speed or wiazrdry, i enjoy playing, writing, recording, playing along with all my favorite musicians...i have FUN
Great video. Really changed my perspective on 8 strings guitars.
If your experiencing pain. 'cut it out'. nice call.
On a bit more serious note, I was surprised at his knowledge of technical aspects of the guitar, he really had a lot of good technical reasons for why he likes the 8 string guitar and why he plays it the way he does. It was cool to hear him express them.
The first video I discovered Tosin in. So much has changed!
I m fan of Tosin, the best guitarist with an eightstring guitar!!
@TheWasabi39 I agree, I now have an 8 string and am really putting in my practice time, mainly because of him.
Wow amazing!! We needed that Breakthrough in the Guitar World. Tosin has good mixture of Jazz, Fusion, Classical Metal, Alternative Rock sound.
Tosin is great, he´s always happy, enthusiastic and friendly, he´s a great guitar influence and he wears great... Real djentleman
Thanks for the advice on the string and the clean jazz demo . Everything's metal for the Shecter I'm getting so THANK YOU 😎😊
Not only does he have a lot of natural talent, he has an amazing wealth of musical theory at his command you don't find in every talented guitarist.
Thanks to Tosin, i picked up an Agile Septor Elite 827. I cannot wait to be frustrated beyond belief by trying to learn some AAL.
Wow this guy is a mindblowingly good musician. Not what I was expecting in a guitar review.
Thank you for providing me with an informative look at 8 strings that doesn't immediately rely on metal. I love all my metal bands but i cant get better if im rocking to metal only.
okay this is crazy. four videos and i'm in love.
@AJtheGuitarist38 you are completly right, i watch this kind of videos more then anything when i want inspiration... i look up to guys like Tosin and just hope to be someday like him
What I heard was "if you try to be as good as me, you'll hurt yourself, and you should probably cut it out". Yessir!
Meeting him in Atlanta was the greatest moment of my life.
A seriously useful 8 string lesson! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
i love how clean this sounds
His playing is chaotic, but relaxing. I could fall asleep to his work.
one of the few guys who uses his 8 string to the full and not just the lowest 3 strings
Tosin needs to write an 8 string guitar method book! That would be awesome.
I`ve used the stock tuning on mine for a while now but tuning the 8th string to e makes so much sense now , gotta try it out XD
This guy really knows what he's doing!
Most people with an 8 string: "It gets so much lower"
Tosin appreciates so much more. Awesome dude. Knows his shit.
This is what 8 strings are made of. Thanks to this guy, of course!
I want this man to pair up with Tom Jenkinson... if they were to produce an album, it would go down in history as one of the most maddening experimental and instrumental albums to ever be produced.
So much respect for this guy, animals as leaders are awsome :)
The percussive bass is amazing.