Y'all started discussing the math on the elr shots while I was driving. I kept having to tell myself to think about driving and not the math. It was making my head hurt trying to comprehend it. Fantastic interview. Eric, thank you a thousand times over for these interviews. They are an absolute gold mine of knowledge.
I really enjoyed this one and your whole series. I’m really glad you are doing this and increasing your content and bringing all of your expertise and the expertise of others from other disciplines to us. Great stuff.
I went to high school with chase. I shoot long range but 1200 and in. People get impressed by what I do I show them what he does on IG to put some perspective on it. I just dabble. He recently got a hit at 1200 with a .22LR.
my 1st whitetail at 13 was with a 257 Roberts on a dead run. w/ a Springfield A3 action and a Douglas & Davis barrel. Dropped in its tracks and couldn't have been prouder........MY dads rifle and it was because of a debt from a friend. JMO
Nobody ever believes me. But my air rifle shoots 1inch groups at 200 yards. Lol sounds ridiculous, but it really does!! Soo when he smiles while talking about his .22lr shooting 1inch at 200 yards, I absolutely know what kind of work it takes to shoot those groups. And it’s worth smiling about.
I shoot over a valley and actually thought of flying balloons at the height of my bullets travel just to see the difference between the wind at the ground and at the flight path of the bullet
I love 22LR .. I only have a 100 yard range,so it’s practical.. I get hopeful when professional and competitive shooters also use them.My hope is for much more consistent ammo.Or a feasible way to reload..
Where the hell are you finding Retumbo lol. I've been looking (in CA) for 2 years without luck. Awesome rifle, shooter and interview. You guys are making me need a 33xc hahaha don't tell my fiance 😆
Great chat guys!! If you want to see exactly what your lrf is doing, clamp your lrf on a known object then look through a nightvision scope or night vision spotter,(not thermal) and you will see exactly what your lrf splash is doing exactly,rgds steve
Love these series, not too sure about the 'pause' cuts though... There seemed to be some hesitancy to discuss brands, etc. I'm not sure if that is a sponsorship issue or what. Fun interview all around.
Erik, I am addicted to shooting at 1 mile. I like shooting that distance as much as you like f class at 1000 yards. I would love to have an f glass division that was at 1 mile. Guns are accurate enough to be competitive now. I'd love to make this happen.
Great interview men , what I have to say is the barrel is a tuneing fork it will shoot different from day to day what you want is 0 or close to it on resonance all things are factors.the earth is one radio waves and micro waves ,cell towers and such ,,that's my take on consistency day to day, crazy stuff I know . when a barrel heats up is it vibrating faster or slower.the diameter inside barrel didn't change,so why some get flyers .
Wind veering or backing with altitude is due to Coriolis and is known to every pilot as it's part of the basic syllabus but be aware that it goes the other way in the southern hemisphere.
Hey Erik, not sure if you’ll see this or not but you don’t need a big cartridge to shoot 2 miles just look up Mark and Sam after work. I took my 308 out to 2500 yards no problem your 7 mm all hit 2 miles easy as long as you have enough elevation in your scope. My first ELR rifle was a 300 ultra meg with a 34 inch barrel. I push the 245 grain burgers at 31 50 ft./s. It’s super sonic out to 2300 yards that shoots 2 miles easy.
Amazing content. Regarding Light Class, will Cadex CDX-40 action & Shadow chassis meet the weight limit at 25lbs when running a 338 Enabler match barrel??
Eric when you said "I don't know any real good shooters who shot well right out of the gate" you forgot the guy who you interviewed who set some sort of record in his 1st ever competition and others later in his career. ?I saw the video but can't remember his name.
Brass and 407s are always tough to get unfortunately. The badlands 390 gr SBD2 has the same g7 and a great bcsd. A very good secondary option if you cannot locate the Berger
@@pumpsprecision3520 I would build it copper solid capable, and run the standard jacketed bullets! I do believe that's a feasable option with those guns, unless the twist rate on a solid is to much. I'm in Michigan so it would be a fun gun more than a competition gun, but on the same note keep it ELR friendly for possible future endeavors. Thanks for the input
I think the nose ring mod is not beneficial; it will add drag because it will generate a weak shock wave depending on the depth of the cut. BTW, the wind will 'see' the nose of the projectile as the front of the projectile as it is the cause of the oblique shock.
There is already dopler radar data showing there is less than 1% loss in bc. It only makes the bc more uniform from shot to shot. Small price to pay for a more consistent bc
I have not stopped using them. I had to wait a hot minute on a barrel manufacturer to get my new one made. I just ran one at the nf elr match and will get my new 375 enabelr structured barrel back in a few weeks
ELR barrels must be expensive? Are anyone using nitriding to extend barrel life?: "Plasma Nitriding of Inner Surface of Slender Tubes using Small Diameter Helicon Plasma" Citation: Jin, C.; Zhang, Y.; Wang, C.; Liu, M.; Ling, W.; He, L.; Yang, Y.; E, P. Plasma Nitriding of Inner Surface of Slender Tubes using Small Diameter Helicon Plasma. Materials 2023, 16, 311. "Deleted internet address due to UA-cam refusing the comment" Academic Editor: Abdollah Saboori Received: 24 November 2022 Revised: 19 December 2022 Accepted: 21 December 2022 Published: 29 December 2022 Quote: "... For the nitrided HWP, a nitride layer with a thickness of 14 μm was produced on the surface, approximately two times higher than in the ICP nitrided layer. Surface hardening resulting from nitriding can enhance the microhardness up to HV1820, which is nearly nine times higher than that of the untreated surface. It can be concluded that in this study, the enhancement in microhardness is primarily attributed to the creation of γN phase with compressive residual stresses and microdistortions in the high N-containing layer as a result of high concentration of N+ . This solution can be applied to improve the hardness of the inner surface of slender tubes, ..."
Great interview. I would like to nominate "Mark" from "Sam & Mark Afterwork" from Austrailia
I came here to say this. G'day today we're going to be shooting a Red Ryder at 6000 yards. Pop........Ping.
Agreed!!! That would be awesome
Yes, sir! And I would even say bring them both, Mar and Sam.
Please do!!
I have to say that would be great !!!!
Chase is a good dude. I’ve known him for years, but haven’t seen him in a long time, glad to see him on there.
I’m getting my first 308 bolt action ruger. So excited to get started in the shooting game
David Tubb interview please.
Y'all started discussing the math on the elr shots while I was driving. I kept having to tell myself to think about driving and not the math. It was making my head hurt trying to comprehend it. Fantastic interview. Eric, thank you a thousand times over for these interviews. They are an absolute gold mine of knowledge.
What's so cool is guys like this came up with some of the great ideas that help making shooting at these ELR ranges a lot more practical.
Pump and Eric, nice to see you again, great ELR discussion 👍
I really enjoyed this one and your whole series. I’m really glad you are doing this and increasing your content and bringing all of your expertise and the expertise of others from other disciplines to us. Great stuff.
What a great summation of the sport and its evolution. Tons of useful information too. The Wikipedia of ELR. Thank you both!
I went to high school with chase. I shoot long range but 1200 and in. People get impressed by what I do I show them what he does on IG to put some perspective on it. I just dabble. He recently got a hit at 1200 with a .22LR.
We have gone to 1400. My clients were the ones hitting 1200
Watching this right down the road from Pleasanton.
Great interview. Thanks Eric
WOW...............................mind-blowing, thanks for sharing this topic !!
It makes you wonder " whats next".
Really enjoying your pod casts and the guests you bring in. Keep it up. Thanks.
Great Series! Been watching Chase since early PSR. ELR is not my cup of tea, but enjoy listening to his discipline to applied to all ranges.
my 1st whitetail at 13 was with a 257 Roberts on a dead run. w/ a Springfield A3 action and a Douglas & Davis barrel. Dropped in its tracks and couldn't have been prouder........MY dads rifle and it was because of a debt from a friend. JMO
Very , very good podcast. Good information.
Josh Kunz at Patriot Valley Arms is also making lathe turned bullets.
Thank you for the knowledge
Nobody ever believes me. But my air rifle shoots 1inch groups at 200 yards. Lol sounds ridiculous, but it really does!!
Soo when he smiles while talking about his .22lr shooting 1inch at 200 yards, I absolutely know what kind of work it takes to shoot those groups. And it’s worth smiling about.
I shoot over a valley and actually thought of flying balloons at the height of my bullets travel just to see the difference between the wind at the ground and at the flight path of the bullet
Curious on your feedback/opinion on the bullet nose ring. Many thanks to everyone involved in getting this mountain of info/knowledge available.🎯
That's a beast of a rifle.
You need to go for it, Erik!
I love 22LR .. I only have a 100 yard range,so it’s practical.. I get hopeful when professional and competitive shooters also use them.My hope is for much more consistent ammo.Or a feasible way to reload..
Where the hell are you finding Retumbo lol. I've been looking (in CA) for 2 years without luck. Awesome rifle, shooter and interview. You guys are making me need a 33xc hahaha don't tell my fiance 😆
Erik, your all cleaned up
Them new school guys are scratching there heads on that
Great chat guys!! If you want to see exactly what your lrf is doing, clamp your lrf on a known object then look through a nightvision scope or night vision spotter,(not thermal) and you will see exactly what your lrf splash is doing exactly,rgds steve
Love these series, not too sure about the 'pause' cuts though...
There seemed to be some hesitancy to discuss brands, etc. I'm not sure if that is a sponsorship issue or what.
Fun interview all around.
agreed!
And now we see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Lol
I learned so much on this podcast. This was great
Erik, I am addicted to shooting at 1 mile. I like shooting that distance as much as you like f class at 1000 yards. I would love to have an f glass division that was at 1 mile. Guns are accurate enough to be competitive now. I'd love to make this happen.
Great interview men , what I have to say is the barrel is a tuneing fork it will shoot different from day to day what you want is 0 or close to it on resonance all things are factors.the earth is one radio waves and micro waves ,cell towers and such ,,that's my take on consistency day to day, crazy stuff I know . when a barrel heats up is it vibrating faster or slower.the diameter inside barrel didn't change,so why some get flyers .
Wind veering or backing with altitude is due to Coriolis and is known to every pilot as it's part of the basic syllabus but be aware that it goes the other way in the southern hemisphere.
Their bullet path is more like a mortar rounds flight.
Hey Erik, not sure if you’ll see this or not but you don’t need a big cartridge to shoot 2 miles just look up Mark and Sam after work. I took my 308 out to 2500 yards no problem your 7 mm all hit 2 miles easy as long as you have enough elevation in your scope. My first ELR rifle was a 300 ultra meg with a 34 inch barrel. I push the 245 grain burgers at 31 50 ft./s. It’s super sonic out to 2300 yards that shoots 2 miles easy.
That's amazing
Awesome
Encore! Encore! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Maybe sending a hovering drone at altitude with a wind measuring device transmitting real-time back to the shooter would be useful?
Two smart guys.
your the greatest
Late to the party
But this was a great interview
Thanks
Erik your so lucky to have friends like this man
Get David Tubb on
Who manufactures the chasis on that rifle?
did u find out what chassis this is?
Where do you get cleaning rods for barrels that long!?
👍 awesome 😎👍👍
Excelente interview. Any one ever try a MOAB Minute Of Angle Adjustable Base for extreme long range?
Amazing content. Regarding Light Class, will Cadex CDX-40 action & Shadow chassis meet the weight limit at 25lbs when running a 338 Enabler match barrel??
Yes. That's exactly what I run in elr light with a structured barrel
Eric, please try to interview Mark and Sam from Australia.
Eric when you said "I don't know any real good shooters who shot well right out of the gate" you forgot the guy who you interviewed who set some sort of record in his 1st ever competition and others later in his career. ?I saw the video but can't remember his name.
I didn’t forget. He works very hard at becoming a good shooter and when he shot that match he had already been shooting for a while.
I like the 375 EnAbLeR, but components really suck right now for building one
Brass and 407s are always tough to get unfortunately. The badlands 390 gr SBD2 has the same g7 and a great bcsd. A very good secondary option if you cannot locate the Berger
@@pumpsprecision3520 I would build it copper solid capable, and run the standard jacketed bullets! I do believe that's a feasable option with those guns, unless the twist rate on a solid is to much. I'm in Michigan so it would be a fun gun more than a competition gun, but on the same note keep it ELR friendly for possible future endeavors. Thanks for the input
I'm up to 450y with my rimx......love elr(distance varies with caliber)
Chase did you have your Tactix 7 Pro AB app running on the first hour of that video? Looked kinda familiar 😅
Yes I did indeed mate!
If the Charlie's top mirror is 2.5in above the scope axis, whats your AB input for scope height over bore measured at the windage turret?
There is a center point of the top mirror that is it's axis. That's my reference point for measurement
There was a gunsmith in Colorado (can’t remember his name) that in the nineties was shooting prairie dogs with a 308 at over 3000 yds!
I just remembered the gunsmith, shooters name was Bruce Argus 3125 yards confirmed prairie dog shot
Artus
Sorry, I must have missed the model of rangefinder used. Can you tell me what it is, please?
Thanks.
I believe the target won't shoot back
That accuracy bug takes body parts.
I think the nose ring mod is not beneficial; it will add drag because it will generate a weak shock wave depending on the depth of the cut. BTW, the wind will 'see' the nose of the projectile as the front of the projectile as it is the cause of the oblique shock.
There is already dopler radar data showing there is less than 1% loss in bc. It only makes the bc more uniform from shot to shot. Small price to pay for a more consistent bc
Wow, how much is one of those
24:49 When you have to turn your head side to side to look at a gun :D
I would like to ask how much money he spends (or a professional ELR shooter in general) on just ammo or reloading components each year.
Too scared to ask my bean counter 😢
Chase what bag rider set up do you use?
What's the windage app Chase talks about? I couldn't find it in the app store, I must be spelling it wrong.
Sounded Russian or polish
Ventusky
Nowadays a vhs tape is bigger than a stack on mini supercomputers
Hell ya
Chase,
Why did you stop using Structured Barrels?
I have not stopped using them. I had to wait a hot minute on a barrel manufacturer to get my new one made. I just ran one at the nf elr match and will get my new 375 enabelr structured barrel back in a few weeks
What is the app used for the higher gradient winds ? Please, anyone ? Thanks!!
Ventusky
@@BelieveTheTarget thanks, I’m the same guy that messaged you about the app.
1hr...we discovered the coriolus effect. Keep in mind at different latitude it won't rotate the same way.
Have to make sure no aircraft are flying in the area! This would be a lot of fun.
What kind of rangefinder does chase have? Why is it being kept a secret?
I just guess 😬
Cost!!!!!!?
Should have challenged chase to an arm wrestling match
He needs his arm to pull trigger. I didn’t want to hurt him. 😉
All I can say is cha Ching $$$$$
Did Eric really not know what 1 moa is at 4000 yards??? He's a world class precision shooter correct? 😒
Wish he would say what range finder he has.
I just guess usually
Something only available to the deep state and it’s EnABELR’s 😉😁
Most of us are using the Vectronix Vector 21 or 23. These are 1550nm and eye safe, ranging out past 10K
When all else fails read the directions 😂
Good video, unfortunately had to sit through 12 ads.
Why haven't you 2 gone out ELR shooting? You promised 2 years ago!!!!
😂
ELR barrels must be expensive? Are anyone using nitriding to extend barrel life?: "Plasma Nitriding of Inner Surface of Slender Tubes using Small
Diameter Helicon Plasma" Citation: Jin, C.; Zhang, Y.; Wang, C.;
Liu, M.; Ling, W.; He, L.; Yang, Y.; E,
P. Plasma Nitriding of Inner Surface
of Slender Tubes using Small
Diameter Helicon Plasma. Materials
2023, 16, 311.
"Deleted internet address due to UA-cam refusing the comment"
Academic Editor: Abdollah Saboori
Received: 24 November 2022
Revised: 19 December 2022
Accepted: 21 December 2022
Published: 29 December 2022
Quote: "... For the nitrided HWP, a
nitride layer with a thickness of 14 μm was produced on the surface, approximately two
times higher than in the ICP nitrided layer. Surface hardening resulting from nitriding can
enhance the microhardness up to HV1820, which is nearly nine times higher than that of
the untreated surface. It can be concluded that in this study, the enhancement in microhardness is primarily attributed to the creation of γN phase with compressive residual
stresses and microdistortions in the high N-containing layer as a result of high concentration of N+
. This solution can be applied to improve the hardness of the inner surface of
slender tubes, ..."
We have used hexagonal borron nitrite and it for sure extends. Barrel life. I am very interested in potential use of what you have put on here