Couldn't disagree more. Kermode keeps calling Eyes Wide Shut an erotic thriller (which is what the movie's marketing initially suggested), when clearly it isn't. If anything, Eyes Wide Shut is about the facade of erotica, and the darkness lurking beneath sexual fantasies. Dr. Bill attempts to satisfy those fantasies, only to be neutered and emasculated at every turn because he isn't one of the affluent elite. Eyes Wide Shut isn't just an examination of gender politics and marriage, but an exploration of an entire class system which views sex as a commodity. In an era where we now know about the insidious activities of Weinstein and Epstein, it's aged like a fine wine.
One of kermodes worst takes. The worst criticism is saying the orgy is too tame when Sydney Pollacks character tells Bill everything you saw was fake. For all we know nobody was even having sex. It’s masterful fine line between reality and dream sequence. The audience and bill will never truly know what they saw and it’s brilliant. A masterpiece of course
Ohh, that side of Kermode. This review sounds more of belittling than an honest opinion. I think it's one of Kubrick's best, and overlooked, along with Barry Lyndon.
My list Barry Lyndon Eyes Wide Shut The Shining 2001 Dr Strangelove A Clockwork Orange Full Metal Jacket Lolita I know he did more pre Lolita but haven't seen them yet.
Eyes Wide Shut can leave you cold if you are not a Kubrick fan. It certainly is a film that you need to see many times, preferably in a short period of time, and also during your whole lifetime because you see and understand different things at different stages of your life. It has even more layers than any other film he made. It's a film that leaves even the most genius person humble after researching everything there is to this film, and I don't mean the easily found analyzes etc. but things that are based on numerology, symbology and subliminal messages and symbols. People who judge it as Kubrick's worst film are either simple, or more likely know that telling the truths inside this film are really dangerous. I truly hope people would research this film more. Kubrick researched secret societies, occultism etc. his whole life, he had large network of informers and he was one of the most intelligent man alive, and one of the most hard working perfectionist. He had complete artistic freedom, without it this film could not have been made. And it's on Guinness world records for longest filming time. And it still amazes me how this is possible.
I thought it was an honest opinion, though granted I'm not as huge of a fan of Eyes Wide Shut as a lot of other people. YMS, John Campea and Grace Randolph are much worse at the belittling side of film criticism.
First saw this film the day it opened in September 1999. Loved it then, and I love it now. Happily saw the re-release in November 2019, it was a sold out screening, and at the age of 35 I was probably the oldest audience member there. You could hear a pin drop throughout that screening. Everyone sat there mesmerised by this film. One of Kubrick’s best.
Weirdly, in films before Eyes Wide Shut such as Rain Man, and films (immediately) after Eyes Wide Shut such as Magnolia, Cruise proved he could act. Maybe Kubrick's routine of doing like 60 takes for each shot sucked the life out of him. Or maybe the dialogue is so flat and witless he just felt he had nothing to work with.
Agree, Fear and Desire is bad, though Kubrick himself said it was him getting to grips with making films and not worth bothering with. Spartacus is also fairly rum, though it was never meant to be a Kubrick film.
I think the film makes many people uncomfortable on a variety of levels; “erotica” vs porn, social privilege vs intellectual exclusivity; the relationship between fame and fiction; the audiences ‘ownership” of celebrity; and above all, the distance that cinema allows the viewer from any true sense of responsibility vs easy “empathy”. I think this is a consistent theme throughout Kubrick’s work. An intention seen from Killers Kiss through 2001 to Barry Lyndon, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket and, finally, Eyes Wide Shut. That is what he uses the subversion of genre to achieve, be it the war movie in serious or satirical mode, the historical drama, or the more “pulp” movie genres of horror/thriller/dystopia. Always to be considered is the risk he is taking when you take into account other contemporary movies in those genres. You never leave a Kubrick movie knowing an answer, but rather, you are left with a question about the art of cinema that may last as long as your recollection of the film.
I think it's better than he's giving the film credit for. Granted it wasn't his best film but I think it was more than just an "erotic thriller." This was how the film was marketed. It was actually more about secret societies and what goes on behind the scenes that the majority of people don't know about.
I really would say the relationship stuff and all the bits about the secret society all feed into the same themes about secrecy, the things people know and don't talk about or see and not fully realize, and really about how you can seem so close to someone but a simple new wrinkle in a relationship can create a vivid new distance and fracture between the two of you.
I disagree this movie is a masterpiece. Mind you is it in the same league as 2001 or The Shining. No. But in the context of the 90's it makes a good bookend. The film shouldn't be viewed literally as a rational piece of work but rather as a surreal nightmare. It's an underbelly, beneath an underbelly. At his best or worse his movies exist at a subconscious level. They play like puzzles instead of a movie with exposition or a definitive meaning. But to each his own.
this review actually makes this movie sound shallow. Nothing about all the web of power, Illuminati, Christmas, and enforced secrecy... ... just, you know, erotic. the 50 minutes you hasten to throw out is for the eyes. It prolly informs what you dont see at all
If for no other reason, I admire Kubrick's style, and command of the camera. The colours used in this film are absolutely sumptuous, no OTT performances, but I just wish there was a little more to the thriller aspect of the plot. After all of the brou-ha-ha and secrecy died down, I did expect to be gobsmacked, and I was - just not how I thought I would be. And all we get to see of Nicole is her bum? I'll watch Billy Bathgate again, I guess. But I do love this film.
The film maybe long & unfocused in parts, however the film’s well directed, well acted, stylish & an intriguing drama story. (70%) (3.5/5 stars) (positive)
Kermode is right about everything in this review except one point: Eyes Wide Shut is certainly not Kubrick's worst film. That award goes to Fear and Desire, which is amateurish trash. It's nearly unwatchable.
I think he has a point about the orgy sequence; clunky in parts and even, 20 years on, somewhat tepid. Still I think overall it's a wonderfully disturbing film.
I think the orgy sequence was actually very well done. The whole film was a depiction of his own psyche and how he imagines things, not to be taken as literal events. The orgy needs to be lavish and prolonged as he imagines it, because the pacing of the film needs to be consistent. If you can, imagine an orgy scene that's "cut short" like Mark demands - it would feel completely irregular in the way the film is laid out and would actually make the flow worse. The word is that there was already 20 or so minutes cut from the film, some of which must have been among the sexually explicit ones. I think more cuts would totally ruin the film, which has a central theme revolving around the indulgence of one's imagination and the hypnotic qualities of it. Cutting more and rushing through it would diminish the art.
The orgy isn't the point of the movie. The part where the girl redeems Bill is. Any review of this movie that says, "orgy, orgy, orgy, orgy" is really dumb. However, many people don't like this movie. It's slow, it's weird, Bill and Alice don't have sex with everybody they meet. I think that is what bothers a certain type of reviewer.
@@Slarti Well, the cult and the IDEA of sex is important and "what kind of charade ends up with somebody dead?" is important. Obviously, the whole first part of the movie leads up to Bill walking in the door of the orgy, which is where he wanted to go. I read loads online reviews of EWS when it came out. Nobody liked the orgy scene. This movie isn't about giving people what they like, which is one of the things I hold against Kubrick. He takes Cruise and Kidman and makes them not very likable. Even the kids in SK's movies aren't very likable. Kubrick seemed to be interested in bugging people, and EWS bugged the typical movie reviewer types more than it bugged anybody else. Same as 2001, when it first came out.
There's is a huge difference between watch the film projected at the old ciné and watching it on DVD. All the grain of the film stock is missing off the DVD and it loses a lot in terms of lighting and atmosphere. The whole film was push developed to get that dream look and its missing from all transfers. I always think of EWS as a kind of Giallo. I wish he had made it in the 70's.
I like Mark Kermode as a critic but here he has obviously no idea what Eyes Wide Shut is really about. Calling it "an erotic thriller" is the perfect demonstration of that.
He did not have complete artistic freedom it was amateurishly cut and what we see can be nothing like what Kubrick envisioned it's a disjointed mess you have to have an extreme overview and examine it on multiple levels. Could not have had complete control over the final cut get real come on man
I think you are so right. I hated this movie. I know as a profession you have to see movies more than once (always) but the thought of sitting through Eyes Wide Shut makes me want to sleep my way through every moment of it. It is difficult to imagine that the director of 2001 could be responsible for such a pile of rubbish. Love hearing your reviews whether I agree or not but in this case I completely agree.
I'm disappointed that Mark forgot to mention Society which he usually cites at any given opportunity, also Dead Alive, which is fresh in my mind, you could say has an orgy/blood bath. But I'm predisposed to think of horror especially in the presence of the Kermode.
Kermode does not grok this movie in the slightest. It shows how superficial Kermode is to me - there is depth of meaning in it that Kermode is just unable to get near.
It’s fine to dislike the film, but I don’t like the way he dismisses people that actually like it. I’ve always liked Kermode but there are too many occasions recently where he misses the point... not to mention his recent attempt to appeal to a younger audience by teaming up with irritating UA-camr Jack something-or-other.
Is Mark seriously that out of touch...I thought he was a pretty well self-educated individual before hearing this. It seems he's either extremely ignorant of sick society (maybe he's part of it) or maybe he's just completely missed the point of this movie.
Don't agree Mark. Barry Lyndon is praised to bits. But if you were Irish you would probably find Ryan O' Neal's "oirish" accent unbearable, as I do. Barry Lyndon: talk about brilliant soundtracks.
@@SirSmilingPhantom I actually own it as part of a Kubrick boxset so will give it a go. 2 further questions... Any tips on watching seven samurai? I've tried numerous times but always give up about 2/3 in. Also any good online forums for sensible film discussions like this?
Neil Partridge is it part of the Kubrick Masterpiece collection? If so I have that box set and the quality is excellent. Oh for Seven Samurai I would say watch it in the early to late evening, maybe with some food and a beverage (or joint if you’re partial to that haha) I’ll link you a good video that sold me on Seven Samurai before watching it. What I’d say is: focus on the characterisations each samurai gets, look at the unique ways they interact and test one another - take a break at the halfway point if necessary. The wiki and IMDb have some really interesting facts about it that I’ll flick trough to stimulate my thoughts on the films aswell.
@@SirSmilingPhantom visionary filmmaker collection actually. I will persevere with samurai. I love the cinematography but struggle with what feels like over acting.
Kermit, do us a favour and Go back to drooling over Caligula. Of course Kermit doesn’t like it, because he misses the point of the film it is an erotic thriller that deconstructs the trappings of the genre.
Important to note that the film was never finished by Kubrick. It was completed by another director. It was only about half shot by Kubrick and then completed and edited together by other people... Kubrick fans were up in arms trying to stop the film from being completed and released.
Best orgy scene is in Caligula 1979. Its crazy. I tried to watch Eyes wide shut again and i was left cold by it and I love Kubrick. Theres some things i kinda like. The walking around the streets at night made me think of a film i love. After Hours. and the orgy scene has some nice costumes and the musics good.. but overall i was bored. Dont rate Tom Cruise that much either.
Couldn't disagree more. Kermode keeps calling Eyes Wide Shut an erotic thriller (which is what the movie's marketing initially suggested), when clearly it isn't. If anything, Eyes Wide Shut is about the facade of erotica, and the darkness lurking beneath sexual fantasies. Dr. Bill attempts to satisfy those fantasies, only to be neutered and emasculated at every turn because he isn't one of the affluent elite. Eyes Wide Shut isn't just an examination of gender politics and marriage, but an exploration of an entire class system which views sex as a commodity. In an era where we now know about the insidious activities of Weinstein and Epstein, it's aged like a fine wine.
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So true and perfectly summerised. It was very much ahead of its time.
One of kermodes worst takes. The worst criticism is saying the orgy is too tame when Sydney Pollacks character tells Bill everything you saw was fake. For all we know nobody was even having sex. It’s masterful fine line between reality and dream sequence. The audience and bill will never truly know what they saw and it’s brilliant. A masterpiece of course
A very rare occasion where I strongly disagree with Kermode.
I’ve disagreed with him more times than I care to remember
I've disagreed with Kermode more than once. His reviews on Basic Instinct 2, Superbad.
I've only disagreed with him a few times. Most recently with Scream VI. I don't disagree with him on this one though.
I disagree with him on this and Wes Anderson
Wish it was longer.
Ohh, that side of Kermode. This review sounds more of belittling than an honest opinion. I think it's one of Kubrick's best, and overlooked, along with Barry Lyndon.
Eyes Wide Shut is my 2nd favourite Kubrick film behind A Clockwork Orange
My list
Barry Lyndon
Eyes Wide Shut
The Shining
2001
Dr Strangelove
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Lolita
I know he did more pre Lolita but haven't seen them yet.
Eyes Wide Shut can leave you cold if you are not a Kubrick fan. It certainly is a film that you need to see many times, preferably in a short period of time, and also during your whole lifetime because you see and understand different things at different stages of your life.
It has even more layers than any other film he made. It's a film that leaves even the most genius person humble after researching everything there is to this film, and I don't mean the easily found analyzes etc. but things that are based on numerology, symbology and subliminal messages and symbols.
People who judge it as Kubrick's worst film are either simple, or more likely know that telling the truths inside this film are really dangerous.
I truly hope people would research this film more. Kubrick researched secret societies, occultism etc. his whole life, he had large network of informers and he was one of the most intelligent man alive, and one of the most hard working perfectionist. He had complete artistic freedom, without it this film could not have been made. And it's on Guinness world records for longest filming time. And it still amazes me how this is possible.
I thought it was an honest opinion, though granted I'm not as huge of a fan of Eyes Wide Shut as a lot of other people. YMS, John Campea and Grace Randolph are much worse at the belittling side of film criticism.
Absolutely, It in my top 5 fersure. Kermode going full blown pretentious hipster
It's supposed to leave you cold, it's Stanley Kubrick.
Interesting
You are drunk Kermode.
This movie is a good as The Shinning, 2001 or Barry Lyndon. It’s a 10/10.
This is a genius review it has it's eyes wide shut
First saw this film the day it opened in September 1999. Loved it then, and I love it now. Happily saw the re-release in November 2019, it was a sold out screening, and at the age of 35 I was probably the oldest audience member there. You could hear a pin drop throughout that screening. Everyone sat there mesmerised by this film. One of Kubrick’s best.
Alice is The Pink Panther. Kermode and everybody else missed that for 25 years. Time to watch it again, Mark...
Both of you, are Totally...off point. I'd love to debate you on this one.
Hasn’t Kubrick had complete creative control way before EWS?
It's a lot better than Fear and Desire. My biggest problem with it is Tom Cruise's performance. He should have had to return his fee for that one.
Weirdly, in films before Eyes Wide Shut such as Rain Man, and films (immediately) after Eyes Wide Shut such as Magnolia, Cruise proved he could act. Maybe Kubrick's routine of doing like 60 takes for each shot sucked the life out of him. Or maybe the dialogue is so flat and witless he just felt he had nothing to work with.
Agree, Fear and Desire is bad, though Kubrick himself said it was him getting to grips with making films and not worth bothering with. Spartacus is also fairly rum, though it was never meant to be a Kubrick film.
I love Eyes Wide Shut. The only thing I agree with Mark here is how fantastic Jocelyn Pook's music is.
It's a cliche but opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one.
All of the critics of this movie hate it for what it ISN'T instead of criticizing the movie for what it is.
Kermode totally missing the point again
I think the film makes many people uncomfortable on a variety of levels; “erotica” vs porn, social privilege vs intellectual exclusivity; the relationship between fame and fiction; the audiences ‘ownership” of celebrity; and above all, the distance that cinema allows the viewer from any true sense of responsibility vs easy “empathy”. I think this is a consistent theme throughout Kubrick’s work. An intention seen from Killers Kiss through 2001 to Barry Lyndon, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket and, finally, Eyes Wide Shut. That is what he uses the subversion of genre to achieve, be it the war movie in serious or satirical mode, the historical drama, or the more “pulp” movie genres of horror/thriller/dystopia. Always to be considered is the risk he is taking when you take into account other contemporary movies in those genres. You never leave a Kubrick movie knowing an answer, but rather, you are left with a question about the art of cinema that may last as long as your recollection of the film.
I think it's better than he's giving the film credit for. Granted it wasn't his best film but I think it was more than just an "erotic thriller." This was how the film was marketed. It was actually more about secret societies and what goes on behind the scenes that the majority of people don't know about.
Yes but there are other films who have wrote about this, like Salo.
Best comment so far.
I really would say the relationship stuff and all the bits about the secret society all feed into the same themes about secrecy, the things people know and don't talk about or see and not fully realize, and really about how you can seem so close to someone but a simple new wrinkle in a relationship can create a vivid new distance and fracture between the two of you.
Perfectly summed up⏫️
I disagree this movie is a masterpiece. Mind you is it in the same league as 2001 or The Shining. No. But in the context of the 90's it makes a good bookend. The film shouldn't be viewed literally as a rational piece of work but rather as a surreal nightmare. It's an underbelly, beneath an underbelly. At his best or worse his movies exist at a subconscious level. They play like puzzles instead of a movie with exposition or a definitive meaning. But to each his own.
this review actually makes this movie sound shallow.
Nothing about all the web of power, Illuminati, Christmas, and enforced secrecy...
... just, you know, erotic.
the 50 minutes you hasten to throw out is for the eyes.
It prolly informs what you dont see at all
Kermode's argument is basically, "I know all the names of these erotic thrillers, and you don't, so I'm right."
Don’t know what is worse? Him being opinionated or him riding to coattails of his wife’s work?
@@spaceodds1985 I think critics are supposed to be opinionated. It's kind of their job.
@@spaceodds1985 He's a critic, by definition he's supposed to be opinionated or did that fact somehow pass you by?
He spent 30+ years making this his best movie.
This is like saying “Spielberg said Schindler’s List isn’t a comedy, but he’s wrong. It’s a comedy. It’s just a bad comedy.” Moronic.
Kermode is Spanish for Red Cloak
If for no other reason, I admire Kubrick's style, and command of the camera. The colours used in this film are absolutely sumptuous, no OTT performances, but I just wish there was a little more to the thriller aspect of the plot. After all of the brou-ha-ha and secrecy died down, I did expect to be gobsmacked, and I was - just not how I thought I would be. And all we get to see of Nicole is her bum? I'll watch Billy Bathgate again, I guess.
But I do love this film.
"Erotic" thriller? No. Neurotic thriller may be the more apropros term. A great movie.
Legitimately thinking Eues Wide Shut is actually an erotic thriller with the stuff that happens in the film is bizarre.
It's a psychological thriller.
The film maybe long & unfocused in parts, however the film’s well directed, well acted, stylish & an intriguing drama story. (70%) (3.5/5 stars) (positive)
Kermode is right about everything in this review except one point: Eyes Wide Shut is certainly not Kubrick's worst film. That award goes to Fear and Desire, which is amateurish trash. It's nearly unwatchable.
I think he has a point about the orgy sequence; clunky in parts and even, 20 years on, somewhat tepid. Still I think overall it's a wonderfully disturbing film.
I think the orgy sequence was actually very well done. The whole film was a depiction of his own psyche and how he imagines things, not to be taken as literal events. The orgy needs to be lavish and prolonged as he imagines it, because the pacing of the film needs to be consistent. If you can, imagine an orgy scene that's "cut short" like Mark demands - it would feel completely irregular in the way the film is laid out and would actually make the flow worse. The word is that there was already 20 or so minutes cut from the film, some of which must have been among the sexually explicit ones. I think more cuts would totally ruin the film, which has a central theme revolving around the indulgence of one's imagination and the hypnotic qualities of it. Cutting more and rushing through it would diminish the art.
Lasting lovs vs temporary lust
The orgy isn't the point of the movie. The part where the girl redeems Bill is. Any review of this movie that says, "orgy, orgy, orgy, orgy" is really dumb. However, many people don't like this movie. It's slow, it's weird, Bill and Alice don't have sex with everybody they meet. I think that is what bothers a certain type of reviewer.
Exactly!
The orgy is really not important at all, it's just a small aspect of an otherwise very film with plenty of depth.
@@Slarti Well, the cult and the IDEA of sex is important and "what kind of charade ends up with somebody dead?" is important. Obviously, the whole first part of the movie leads up to Bill walking in the door of the orgy, which is where he wanted to go. I read loads online reviews of EWS when it came out. Nobody liked the orgy scene. This movie isn't about giving people what they like, which is one of the things I hold against Kubrick. He takes Cruise and Kidman and makes them not very likable. Even the kids in SK's movies aren't very likable. Kubrick seemed to be interested in bugging people, and EWS bugged the typical movie reviewer types more than it bugged anybody else. Same as 2001, when it first came out.
Kermode liked Joker 2 and didn't get Eyes Wide Shut. Such an overrated reviewer.
There's is a huge difference between watch the film projected at the old ciné and watching it on DVD. All the grain of the film stock is missing off the DVD and it loses a lot in terms of lighting and atmosphere. The whole film was push developed to get that dream look and its missing from all transfers.
I always think of EWS as a kind of Giallo. I wish he had made it in the 70's.
My favorite Kubrick film, a grand work of dark magic.
One of my favourite Kubrick classic movies
I like Mark Kermode as a critic but here he has obviously no idea what Eyes Wide Shut is really about. Calling it "an erotic thriller" is the perfect demonstration of that.
I feel so validated
I liked the colors and cinematography in the film Also the lack of any conscious with the elite no ethics at all only power
He did not have complete artistic freedom it was amateurishly cut and what we see can be nothing like what Kubrick envisioned it's a disjointed mess you have to have an extreme overview and examine it on multiple levels. Could not have had complete control over the final cut get real come on man
I think you are so right. I hated this movie. I know as a profession you have to see movies more than once (always) but the thought of sitting through Eyes Wide Shut makes me want to sleep my way through every moment of it. It is difficult to imagine that the director of 2001 could be responsible for such a pile of rubbish. Love hearing your reviews whether I agree or not but in this case I completely agree.
I'm disappointed that Mark forgot to mention Society which he usually cites at any given opportunity, also Dead Alive, which is fresh in my mind, you could say has an orgy/blood bath. But I'm predisposed to think of horror especially in the presence of the Kermode.
I strongly disagree with Kermode. This is rare.
I love it took me 2 tries but I understand it
How wrong is Mark Kermode? This movie is a mystery thriller. Erotic? May be, but eroticism is collateral to the main plotz
Kermode does not grok this movie in the slightest.
It shows how superficial Kermode is to me - there is depth of meaning in it that Kermode is just unable to get near.
It’s fine to dislike the film, but I don’t like the way he dismisses people that actually like it. I’ve always liked Kermode but there are too many occasions recently where he misses the point... not to mention his recent attempt to appeal to a younger audience by teaming up with irritating UA-camr Jack something-or-other.
Kermode has no imagination
Pretentious is the word here...It's no wonder Kidman and Cruise divorced after this film was made..
It's self indulgent tripe in the way 2001 isn't.
It’s really not good at all. The dialogue is atrocious. Every single line is repeated as a question
Stick to reviewing Marvel films
Kubricks best
Yeah, Kermode is wrong about this film
I prefer Caligula
Is Mark seriously that out of touch...I thought he was a pretty well self-educated individual before hearing this. It seems he's either extremely ignorant of sick society (maybe he's part of it) or maybe he's just completely missed the point of this movie.
Found it silly and bloated. Didn't believe on second of this movie...Cruise looks completely lost and out of his element.
My most watched Kubrick film. Funny, because I don't think it's his best (The Shining, and A Clockwork Orange, are perfect).
9/10
So wrong on this one
Don't agree Mark. Barry Lyndon is praised to bits. But if you were Irish you would probably find Ryan O' Neal's "oirish" accent unbearable, as I do. Barry Lyndon: talk about brilliant soundtracks.
1. I think I might just give this film a miss (despite loving Kubrick)
2. Who knew there was a genre of straight to video erotic thrillers!
Neil Partridge honestly, if you love cinema: you need to see this film. Kermode, I respect, but fundamentally disagree with here.
@@SirSmilingPhantom I actually own it as part of a Kubrick boxset so will give it a go.
2 further questions... Any tips on watching seven samurai? I've tried numerous times but always give up about 2/3 in.
Also any good online forums for sensible film discussions like this?
Neil Partridge is it part of the Kubrick Masterpiece collection? If so I have that box set and the quality is excellent.
Oh for Seven Samurai I would say watch it in the early to late evening, maybe with some food and a beverage (or joint if you’re partial to that haha) I’ll link you a good video that sold me on Seven Samurai before watching it.
What I’d say is: focus on the characterisations each samurai gets, look at the unique ways they interact and test one another - take a break at the halfway point if necessary. The wiki and IMDb have some really interesting facts about it that I’ll flick trough to stimulate my thoughts on the films aswell.
@@SirSmilingPhantom visionary filmmaker collection actually. I will persevere with samurai. I love the cinematography but struggle with what feels like over acting.
Kermit, do us a favour and Go back to drooling over Caligula. Of course Kermit doesn’t like it, because he misses the point of the film it is an erotic thriller that deconstructs the trappings of the genre.
Important to note that the film was never finished by Kubrick. It was completed by another director. It was only about half shot by Kubrick and then completed and edited together by other people... Kubrick fans were up in arms trying to stop the film from being completed and released.
Wow. Some people just like making their own "facts" up
Best orgy scene is in Caligula 1979. Its crazy. I tried to watch Eyes wide shut again and i was left cold by it and I love Kubrick. Theres some things i kinda like. The walking around the streets at night made me think of a film i love. After Hours. and the orgy scene has some nice costumes and the musics good.. but overall i was bored. Dont rate Tom Cruise that much either.
Eyes Wide Shut shows that Kubrick was going the way of Terrence Malick....Well shot but incredibly boring
When a normie reviews EWS