Classic WoW on the Brain - Prot Warrior [TDP]
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2024
- Just like everyone else, it's just running wild through the brain
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Classic wow in the title? im clicking that.
YOU THINK YOU'RE CLICKING IT BUT YOU DONT
RZAJW you may not like legion in your burger king burger but that might be what you get
Im more excited about vanilla duskwood. Seeing stiches own everything was awesome.
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still my favourite quest for some reason that qchain from duskwood..
True that! Leveling in Duskwood as paladin is one of the best vanilla memories. The mood, the story, and you can unleash your Exorcism on sinners! God I love Duskwood!
Preach do you think I'll need to start listening to Linkin Park and Disturbed to fully appreciate Vanilla?
You cant listen anything they released after 2006.
Hybrid Theory and The Sickness on repeat. For the entire leveling process.
I listened to dragonforce in stv
Stark Industries making a sub guild to Classic?
I honestly think we are at least 18 months (if not longer) from Classic, and it's going to be the longest 18 months (or more) of my life.
Vanilla story: Stratholme with 3 guild mates. Someone needed some nature resistance or smth stupid like that. So we take a random, tell him he can have all the stuff but that one item or the mount. Anyway, loot was not the issue. We were basically full T2 equiped so no point in wasting time, so I start cleaving through the trash wearing dps gear, the mage starts spamming arcane explosion. NOT ONCE did anyone drop below 80% life, pally heal OP.
Now the random is confused: "whos tanking?" well I am, duh. First boss, I switch to tanking gear, still doing more dps than he is in his green quest loot. Confusion is rising: "You guys are hackers" ok lol.
Decide to troll him: Mage conjures water, trades it to the pally, pally trades it to the random: "Your paladin summon water???!" even more lols. Tell him a GM gave him the spell cause we are part of the cyber mafia. He gets scared, teleports to ironforge and whispers our guildmaster.
good times, finished the dungeon, didn't get the stuff we want but still worth it.
I love it when you talk to me about Classic, Preach ;)
My GM on Ragnaros: "Everyone gather round for big air!"
Tanking in vanilla hmm.. As someone who was a main tank throughout pretty much all the raids i can say two things - it gives you the best loot in the game, recognition on the server and in general people in your guild will love you, but on the other hand tankng in vanilla is most of the time standing still and doing sunder armor.
Every other class is literally standing still and spamming 1 spell until the mob dies, I'm refering Mages, Locks, Paladins / priests / druids (as for healing). Only interesting class to play is hunter and rogue, which are classes that are almost impossible to get a raid spot with.
What? Rogues are in ever raid and do top tier dps.
Xermy Hunter? Arcane shot and afk?
Ah yes, back when the game was "hardcore" and "difficult". I remember when I was a holy pally in molten core. Damn, I remember how hard it was to spam cleanse and keep up 5 mins buffs on 40 people. Man....I don't know how we did it today.
@VipelTup If you want to max dps you will auto/aimed/auto still not that exiting but way more fun than "frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt"
how dare you bash on vanilla Monks, they were BIS!
Same with dks and demon hunters.
listen kid I MAINED DK in vanilla I bet you never EVEN PLAYED! like ME your so BAD omg just UNINSTALL blizzard only makes stuff for BADDIES now OMG UHHHHSHDHSAHHHHH
+That Guy Who are you? I was a Rank 1 DK in vanilla and i knew all the top DKs back then. Nobody was aloud to make a DK unless i approved of it.
I played a dk healer in the friends and family alpha. they had no cc then either
there were no monks in Vanilla.
Molten Surger. "Surgers, SURGE! MOVE IN" If I had a nickle every time I've said that in the last couple years....
I really hope you do some videos on this cause I'd really like to either play a lock but haven't a clue what I'd be doing or if it's something I'd enjoy end game with.
I'm going to play fury this time. I mained arms since vanilla. I didn't know what pve was until BC. PVP all day.
It was actually worth having 1 shadow priest in raid for the increased shadow dmg for warlocks even though you go oom fast. The mana was also manageble but required much more effort than other classes. You had to spend lots of gold on mana pots and spend many hours outside raiding farming demonic runes in Azhara. Demonic runes gave mana at the cost of life (like a life tap)and didnt share CD with major mana pot.
This is true, but sadly no one will see it.
what addon is that youre using for the kicks on the mid left of your screen?? i need that set up on your ui as well!! looks clean love it.
What do you think bout including tauren paladins and dwarf shamans?
I know that Faction imbalance is always going to be there, but I was wondering what your thoughts are on adding these classes (paladin and shaman) to each faction?
And dual talents like they implemented in Wrath.
Im confused a bit. I've mained a monk since MoP. Are there plans to put in the classes after vanilla? To give pallys/shammys to the opposite faction? Dk's gonna start at level 40 or something? I get that my class is under represented, but horde pallys and dk's arent exactly rare.
Warlocks were a ton of fun in Vanilla. Very high damage in longer fights owning to life tap, utility spells, ability to self heal (offloads the healer). Since most Classic RAIDing revolved around resource management, being able to offload the healer was important if healing was on the low side. Plus pet DPS which filled in some of the gaps when you were running around and didn't eat any of your mana. So, warlocks were quite good. You had to be a shard monster, though, to be able to summon raid members etc, so we had a lot of prep time prior to the RAID. That said, the farming also produced resources and other drops (grey weapon and armor drops were valuable vendor-trash), so we also tended to have plenty of gold.
Hunters were fun. DPS rotation was basic but hunters had enough time on their hands to help with tactical decisions. Again with the pet DPS, and good DPS in longer fights. Ability to kite mobs. Ability to drag bosses a long ways by using the pet to position them better. If I remember right hunters could also dump threat by using feign-death. Also, even though pets couldn't tank, they could help recover situations before a mob ran through the whole group. Particularly if the group had several pets in the mix.
People seem to forget that runs are even more fun when things go wrong but someone is there to save the day :-)
In our guild, the best rogues tended to have top DPS but I usually wound up just after them on the DPS meters on my 'lock. However, being part of the guild management I had to run on my healer(s) or my pally in tank spec half the time to fill whatever gaps there were in the group makeup. For healing, Pallies were tops for sustained tank healing (due to mana efficiency), and priests were very good too. I don't think I had a druid back then. Pallies were also good alt tanks particularly once you had an instance on farm. Plus pallies were good at collecting stray mobs if things went sour. I played alliance back then. By mid-BC the pallies did have a taunt (I forget when they got it, though).
-Matt
I am just starting to really get into wow and I didn't know my friend has been playing a long time. He's a healer and I have a level 30 holy priest that I really enjoy, so I have to switch. Tanking seems really fun to me too but I've heard tanking is all about knowledge and I don't have that at all. Any suggestion on what I should do?
Please give us some more vanilla topic videos, I really just enjoy the discussions around it and you always put together well thought out videos when it comes to these things.
Just a quick refresher. Do you fight Helya in the Halls of Valor or does she get her own raid?
The point you started to make about mana is an interesting one. I raided as a priest in vanilla and even in Molten Core we healed on rotation. There were periods of time, mid boss fight, when I was expected to sit and do nothing as part of the tactic. It was my appointed regen time. I'm just not sure how you explain that to current players or if they will accept it.... and don't even get me started on down ranking spells!
As someone who has never played vanilla, but is a massive WoW fan, I feel conflicted on whether or not to play it. From looking at it, it doesn't seem like I would enjoy it but part of me wants to because it's the OG.
Well play what you enjoy, you can always try out vanilla and see if its your thing or not :)
They'll almost certainly bundle it into the standard sub (they'd have to be incredibly stupid/greedy not to). If/when that happens there'll be no reason not give it a quick tickle.
I'll probably play a few hours, then never look at it again.
vanilla wow is like marmite, you will either love it until the end of days or despise it with every fibre of your being.
dragonslayerbond Try it, but have an open mind. Expect to die, expect to only be able to take on 1 or 2 mobs at a time, expect it to be slow, but also feel the weight of getting a nice upgrade, the satisfaction of finishing a difficult quest, and most importantly talk to people and make friends on your journey! Because that's what makes Classic ever so enjoyable.
Just try it, you may be pleasently surprised by how much you're gonna enjoy it... or u might hate it but just try ;)
Hey! I played a Feral Druid... and an Elemental Shaman... and a Shadow Priest in Vanilla.
Wan't the most efficient, but hey I had fun. Switched to healing on all of those chars later when I started raiding seriously. But I tried! That is the important part, right? Right? :)
omg, wait for 3 sunders!
What add-on does Preach use to display debuffs over the name plates?
Its KuiNameplates.
Thanks!
That's just ElvUI mate! :)
He uses ElvUI and it encompasses the name plates and those debuffs as well
Was totem twisting a thing in Vanilla? I genuinely enjoyed doing that in TBC
Bear tanks were a necessity in later progression and fights that required resistance gear. Warriors couldn't get defense capped and have resist gear which is why bear tanking was not only viable, but at times necessary
I love playing warrior in vanilla, you can do anything. Been playing private servers for a while, mainly as fury and doing great dps, but also as a 4th tank when needed in raids. No need to spec prot if you're not gonna tank any bosses. Having good tanking gear is fine. It's a lot of responsibility in both pvp and tanking, but very fun to do!
any point in doing artifact weapons after final raid since we get them taken away in BfA
Preach do you think we will still keep our fishing artifact in BFA?
Everyone will be Warriors and Rogues; the true Master Classes.
I never really raided in classic, only UBRS on my rogue although i think that was just considered a 15 man dungeon.
The points you bring up is why i think classic servers are a bad idea. I loved my time in classic wow, the game grabbed me in a way no game ever has before. But it was a product of its time, and brilliant compared to other games of the time. They can recreate the exact game, but they can not recreate the feeling we all had playing the game, after 12 years we are all different now. So i see it as going two ways:
There are the players who played in classic, who have their nostalgia goggles on, who after a month or so will be reminded of all the stuff that sucked in classic, because there was a lot of design choices that makes no sense compared to today. And who will probably realize that some of the magic of the game came from it being so new, that no one knew what they were doing, just stumbling through the noobness, and that feeling can not be recreated because we cant just forget what we already know about the game.
Then there are the players who never played classic and really want to see the roots of the game, which i understand. But i think they will find the game 1: very easy as almost all bosses before raids were just tank and spank, and 2: incredibly tedious, with all the parts that are difficult coming from just being cumbersome, like raiding only really needing half the players in a raid because the mechanics are so simple. We are used to the streamlined gaming experience we get today, but that was not there back then. Preach brings up buffing as an example. I personally remember having to drink every 2-3 mobs on my mage because i would go oom. Hunters had to farm food for their pet, or it would get angry and leave them/do worse damage. Not to mention paying for ammunition, which you could forget and run out of in the middle of a dungeon, and then be useless for the rest of the dungeon. There were a lot of just waiting in combat where you had nothing to press because you were waiting for resources to regenerate or build up. Rogues had to farm herbs for mats for vanish/blind.
To summarize, i had an awesome time back then, probably the best time gaming in my life, but alot of the stuff were just bad but we didnt know any better. I am of course gonna make a classic char just out of curiosity, but i doubt i will play it a lot. And as long as the classic servers doesnt take away resources from the real game, then i am very happy blizz has decided to make them, for good or bad :)
They didn't pull this idea out their arses.. lots of us actually want to play the old version of World of Warcraft.
what video does preach do the outlaw mage tower challenge?
No spell reflect on hyrja? It reduces magic damage even if it's not reflectable no? (I haven't played in 3 months)
used it on the 2nd one
I love how you're so objective man, many people can't look at the things as they were for shit, keep up the good work man :)
I am curious about classic.I want to play it mostly for the whole grouping up with people getting to know them and server reputation part. I liked that feel on my old server when it was just us and people would know whos the nice people,whos the best tanks ,etc.It was just great to feel a part of that personally.
So are u going to do another legacy video anytime soon? Maybe one on Cata or Druid? I luv those videos and looking at previous legacy videos they have been quite successful.
Back in vanilla the game was very slow but I was proud of every level I got because it felt like I'm really achieving something, like I'm really becoming more powerful,for example getting to 60, first epic gear, first mount, THAT was the shit.
And what I miss the most that nobody mentions is that when you created a Horde character you were like bound to that faction, you could not have an Alliance alt on the same realm, for me it was an Inspiration to crush my opposing faction at sight, and I still do that LOK'TAR OGAR.
CLASSIC IM WAITING FOR YOU BABY !
what ilvl is ur warrior not that ilvl rly mater's, i couldn't help but notice ur hp pool
seems rather low.. are warriors on the lower end of hp pool's?
William Dooley if you're not running indomitable for devestator you'll have low hp
Steve Bob..
hmm ok, was just curious cause my dk has higher hp so it made me wonder if warriors got shafted in the hp department
@Preach my favorite title is "The Drippy Panties" only because you pronounce everything so fantastically.
One day i wanna see preacher do asmongolds intro and vice versa
Hunter diversity of play was admittedly limited, but they had a lot of utility and comfort of life options. Feign desth drink so you could go ham more, a pet to tank solo play so leveling and farmin was a breeze. Kite responsibility. Trap responsibility. And my favorite was hunters mark target priority before raid markers were universally implemented. My hunters marks in ZG were crisp. Everyone knew which snake to kill. And the fact that you could basically roll on any weapon or gear was great (not that you should) and you could destroy rogues in pvp which was awesome. Also helped that i had shitty internet at times in vanilla so my auto shot dos kept me from being kicked lawl.
I think I read somewhere that vanilla raids were centered around being able to do them with 16 core players and the rest were either carries or just additive bonus.
For molten core and BWL it's pretty true, you could do most bosses with half a raid or so (in most cases) with a few exceptions, Broodlord for example had a flat % threat reduction knockback, so eventually that would exceed the threat generation of the tanks and they would hit a "threat ceiling" they couldn't climb over, so eventually dps and healers would catch up and pull aggro, so a bit of dps was just required for that fight.
But from AQ40 and onwards you pretty much needed a full raid, you could bring some bad people ofcourse, but aslong as they were doing a bare minimum it worked.
Go hardcore on Classic, Mike - push that world first Naxx! XD
Man, I'm so excited for Classic!
24:45 I loved leveling and playing my hunter on nostalrius. It was my first 60 and was super fun to solo and kite shit.
"Youuuuu FUCKERRRRR" - I'm so glad to see even a relaxed person as yourself has these thoughts :)
im def going priest, how usual would that be at 60? also, what specs are viable? hype!!
Just be rdy to lvl to 40 using shield and wand.
Man forgot about that..
it's not so bad, compared to many other classes priests are pretty smooth and steady while maintaining a decent speed. Mind flay becomes good at level 27 but it's not even required, you can just get spirit tap and improved wands then do whatever you want until 40. At 40 you're gonna want to go shadowform though.
Around level 27* i dont remember the exact level it may be 28
Longtimer49 mindflay sucks compared to wand damage without Shadowform and thats why I said wand to 40. Never said it was bad, just boring.
I loved my pally but man was the grind to 60 rough with the limp noodle ret dps.
I want to experience that. Will I be okay having played Runescape?
Seal of command.. the struggle in winterspring was real. .
If you play ret with a 1H and OH caster item or a shield instead of a 2H it gives you more mana regen using seal of wisdom for about 1.5x-2x more dps. It's actually competitive in raids and dungeons when you do that.
the amount of people leveling on classic, you will be able to pretty much party all the way to max level. And the amount of utility paladin has will make people want to have a paladin in group.
Snake.. if you got any 99's on Runescape then you will be fine on Vanilla. Runescape makes Vanilla's WoW's grind seem like nothing by comparison.
I will never forget the *weeks* at Pest Control, 4+ hours a day, for 99 Hitpoints.... The nightmare.
I remember my raid alliance (I know...) in vanilla had some super vocal feral tank who insisted he got the chance to tank some nights so we let him tank an MC farm optional raid when we were all decked out in AQ40. Despite over gearing it dramatically he still felt like he was breaking some world first grounds.
The real question, if you played vanilla go the same class or new class?
bears were fine in vanilla btw, what you need in a tank in vanilla is someone who is there all the time a real no lifer, whatever tank that is, i think our tank got 4fps back then and he was good because he was always on) especially important if you give him tf or anything
I had totally forgotten about innervate rotations lol
Any plan to finish the class guides?
What's the one i forgot, oh the class which is my main right now
Fuuuuuuuck yes. I've been looking forward to the TDP
Don’t worry preach all I can think of is classic warrior too.
I played hunter during classic, and it was ok. Drinking during combat meant that you could actually use your spells, and not wand half the time like casters. And you got an aggro reset on a 30s cd.
Aimed shot hat a 3s cast time I think, and quivers had something around 10%-15% haste on them, so you always delayed your next autoshot. steady shot came in tbc, that was easily usable in between autos.
Oh, and you also used snake bite.
Did everyone miss the part where he states they want to re-imagine it? That they are going to do it in Blizzard style? With those statements do you really think they will have it as it was with such class locking aspects? He even says they want to redo it but not like it was at launch.
Don't say that! The purists will hear you!
Oh, and yes, they can hear text.
Heh ... remember classic raid healing. We had 2 main groups of healers, when one was healing other one was standing doing nothing but regenerating mana (outside of combat 5sec rule- you regen then much more mana).
Anyone else expect him to go: "Wait, there's a dog... - Lets go kill it!", at 1:20?
I mean... that's what I've come to expect from Preach over the years.
Warlocks are a really solid class in vanilla. would recommend to anyone! Easy to level and powerful at endgame.
Maybe this time around I won’t get burned out 3 times leveling one single retri paladin to 60, making the whole thing last a year, just for that free mount I would’ve gladly payed for instead of weeks of trying to get a scholomance group that wouldn’t fall appart just trying to get there and have somebody able to open the gate.. I think I might try picking another class this time..
Will roll a Gnome Warlock here!T3 looks so hot,plus who didn't loved BC where you just had to spam shadowbolt and win with the biggest crits in the game?In Vanila warlock seemed literally the same kind of.Hiting with 4-5k crits where other classes did best with 2-3k crits even with full t3.Warlock is win!
Warrior tank, rogue/mage/warrior dps, priest heal. That's kind of how it all started out, so no surprise those are the solid choices for vanilla.
Wait Preach was still progressing BWL during naxx40?
Either way his story is kinda hypocritical considering a tank could easily do the same in Emerald Nightmare mythic right now too.
I remember the level grind with a warrior being aweful but when u hit the mid 50s to level 60 it was all worth it.
I would just like to add to what Preach was saying about Priests, you have to remember that he is talking purely from a PvE point of view(and as always, he knows what he is talking about).
However, if you are heavily into PvP, Shadow Priests where a lot of fun and pretty powerful. Just wanted to add that little bit.
Something to keep in mind if you are interested in trying out Vanilla for the first time.
Preach, have you seen the changes to Ignore Pain? It'll make SENSE!!
Both priest and hunter had a high skill cap in vanilla at least in pvp, and in pve a good hunter could really save the day when kiting was needed.
Could you do a legacy video for the shaman class please
I only raided as Innervate buffbot, feign-drinking Hunter (top dps in our guild, we even cleared 4h, but I had rerolled at that point), rogue (not using poisons for debuff slots) and warlock, and I definitely enjoyed all. Even Innervate.
Hunter, I definitely would recommend if you can handle the upkeep. You probably won't though.
preach you forgot that Hunter are Loved for kiteing in vanilla in bwl the first boss hunters hafta kite the dragonkin that sawn, and we also pull to the tanks in bwl past broodlord the adds in the alch lab hunter pulls em to tank
Classic will be fun to level in like a solo RPG whenever I get tired of the main expac. Don't think I would ever raid in Vanilla though.
Preach, you should just do a class recommendation video for what to play in classic. Based on if the classic servers are going to actually be classic and not some sort of modified version
If private servers thought me one thing(Beyond what I experienced in retail vanilla) is just how stupidly high dps a warrior can put out, especially when its patch 1.12.1 and you got all the items assosiated with it.
The best dungeon blues, + crafted epics like Lionheart helmet, Titanic Leggings and a Nightfall for 2h fury as Horde and you're going to smoke everyone else. Get a Bonereaver and you're good to go up until Naxx pretty much with just that.
So I except it to be the opposite of retail vanilla. Instead of dps warriors being shunned and told to tank, the good geared dps warriors will be poached like crazy by other guilds.
The reason I like vanilla or BC more than live is because I enjoy the RPG aspect of the game more than raiding.
I started in BC, but I think the classic server should be like 90% pristine as they were, but I feel basic quality of life updates are necessary. For example, back then apparently you couldn't put stacks on the auction house. So even with shit like ore you had to use your mouse, to drag, every single ore, list it, and repeat. That should be changed. Pretty much everything else should be the same as it was though.
What nameplates does preach use?
looking forward to the pain and suffering of vanilla warrior lvling, oh the glory
Alot of the usefulness you mention doesn't take into account leveling, pvp or 5 mans, and like 1 of the off specs in a raid is fine, one enhance with a nightfall for the debuff and a shadow priest for shadow weaving, one feral druid for certain situations (tanking jindo to avoid the humanoid MC). Hunters are great for leveling and pvp as well as warlocks, druids make amazing 5 man tanks, and honestly pretty much everyone can dps in 5 mans its just CC is super helpful for not wiping.
All beware, the Sunder Gnome!
does he have a vid about his addons? or anyone know?
what i really do not like with the current prot warrior isn't really ignore pain (which do not scale and that suck but anyway )
also i want to have a modicum a magic resist without the fucking legendary ring (which i do not own)
and i would love to have a 'rage on demand' on short cooldown baseline so i can charge with at least one ignore pain up so i do not get global by a dangerous pack
also a fucking instant attack (or even with a charge like the paly ) a la devastate baseline.
i cannot count how many time i'm running behind a mob that i can not aggro until one of my ability is ready ( it's retarded )
Also hunters dont use arcane shot in their rotation, its aimed shot and multi-shot only
I few things comming from a private server shitlord, 1 shadow priest is really good when you have 16 debuff slots because it's a straight 15% buff to lock dps. I would also say that at least for alliance priests aren't super high in demand (except for dwarf priests) you need 4 pallies and 2 druids (at least for bwl) so you don't have that many healing slots left. I assume it's more or less the same for horde. Also, hunters probably have the highest skill cap rotation. Not clipping autos with aimed and multi and managing your pet (which dies super easily but can deal tona of damage). However, they have shit dps so I wouldn't recommend rolling it. All of this is obviously only true for the last patch of vanilla possibly with some broken mechanics.
im definitely gonna do a vanilla monk, even though they were poorly optimized, it was still fun to play in vanilla
Preach, you played Vanilla. You know the game then, is not the game now. There are a considerable number of people (myself included) who play the game, but do not like the direction the game has taken. Vanilla was about community, not content.
See, that's the thing. I'm way more interested in content than community. Every realm was separate back then yeah? So guilds and characters developed a reputation on whatever realm they were playing on and some players really liked that. But I experience some of that too on retail, I've been in a great guild that unfortunately disbanded but we all knew each other like family in that guild and that was a great community for me. I want the modern content and raid designs where 1 legion boss had more mechanics than all of AQ40 combined. I digress. I hope you have a great time in Classic WoW, sir. And if you decide you've had enough fun in classic and want to come back, then I will see you in Battle for Azeroth. There's no reason why we can't have both Classic WoW and BfA going at the same time and hope that the players on the other side have just as much fun as you.
I remember leveling a Hunter towards the end of Vanilla, couple months before TBC had launched, I'd gone to Uldaman and was just scooping loot not understanding the need/greed system or anything like that. At the end When I opened the last box and just took thge loot assuming everyone got something the entire group went fucking ballistic at me, like sub-orbital munitions were launched. Everyone screaming how I was a ninja looter and they were going to get me banned. Well I didn't know how anything worked then so I really thought my acc was going to be closed down. To be honest I'm really not looking forward to the leveling on classic again... It took forever.
PVE in vanilla is just getting as much world/consumable buffs as possible, watching threat meter and playing dispel simulator. PVP is where the true action is going to be. There are no bad classes for pvp in vanilla but there are plenty of bad players. Fun is guaranteed.
I think your memory is not doing you service, if you played. PvP in vanilla was very unbalanced for most specs and many classes were destroyed in 1v1 and BGs were dominated by jobs. Runners, healers, flag holders, cc, 1 shot mechanic combos, and warriors. Think about that...1 shot in PvP. Not 1 combo chain, but 1 spell fully buffed.
Yea because PvP as a priest was so much fun, in a game where you could be stunlocked and chain feared to death or simply 1shot by shamans or warriors xD. PvP was anything but balanced in vanilla.
It was fun, shadow priests in vanilla pvp were op af
Can’t wait to play the OG Vanilla rogue
You're underestimating Vanilla I think. Remember your Threat video? Threat is thee Vanilla mechanic. Pretty much every Raid boss outside of Molten Core is not tauntable. If a dps rips, the boss gets out of position and the raid gets cleaved, breathed, tail swiped and so on. This happens ALL THE TIME; especially on Horde, who don't have Salvation. Tranq Air Totem isn't as strong as Salvation and can't really be used due to Windfury.
Tanks have almost no aoe threat generation. You have Battle Shout, Demo Shout and Challenging Shout on a 10 min cooldown. The first two do almost nothing (Threat wise) at level 60 because they don't scale. Thunderclap does jack shit for Threat in Vanilla and can only be used in Battle Stance. Picking up mobs is mostly Tab+Sunder.
Really disagree with the idea that what has happened on pservers in the last 10 years isn't relevant compared to live, lots of new things discovered and tested. Progression won't be about downing bosses first rather than clearing raids the fastest.
Only way this will be different is if they do 1.1 to 1.12 patch progression.
Plate repair bills....not many people mention that cloth literally had less durability and thus that 10% death penalty was cheap for some and expensive for others.
Actually Preach to be fair a very very smart player could druid tank everything. Hugehoss was in my guild and he was our main tank. We were the top guild on my server by far and we killed Rag to Cthun with him. That said, hoss was no ordinary player. He knew the exact math of what gear was the best by far for tanking. Like getting that epic level 40 BoE staff for example. So yeah while it's possible, your average player won't be able to do it successfully.
Time to make the next part of your "Legacy of the warrior" ? :P
I raided through ZG, MC, BWL, AQ20 and most of the way through AQ40 back in Vanilla. There were plenty of other raiding guilds in that content and even 3 on the server that made it into Naxx. Not one single Feral Bear Tank. Ever. Across all the guilds. Not even on farmed content. My own guild had 2 main warriors, and 3 backup warriors for fights like majordomo. It just wasn't good enough. I think that's probably one of the worst things about Vanilla. It wasn't until TBC that you could get stable raid spots as enh/ele shamans, moonkins/bear tanks, shadow priests etc.
Hawken Valhalla I was in a Naxx guild that got to 4 horsemen.... we had a bear tank in full AQ40 2.5 gear. He was great for being the off tank on Patchwork due to high health pool. Bear tanks needed to be insanely geared to be viable (most weren’t as guilds didn’t want to gear them).
Talking about Classic... while playing a Prot Warrior.
/salute
Mechanics in Vanilla: learn to keybind and if you can kite as a hunter, you automatically win.
Hunters pulling and FD next to the tanks was also one of their big jobs. And don't f it up!
I want classic to be untouched, warts and all. Maybe slowly implement the patches until they have it in the final state before TBC. But really I think it needs to be 100% accurate because so many players need a reality check.
the pug tank has it real hard