Can You Game on a $6,000 Mac Pro??

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  • Опубліковано 4 січ 2020
  • Sure, the new Mac Pro is supposed to be a workstation, but that doesn’t mean it can’t game... right?
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    The stock Radeon Pro 580X in the 2019/2020 Mac Pro is disappointing to say the least. It’s a budget card from 2017 dressed up in a sleek new MPX format to save face and it falls short; not just for gaming but for compute as well. So what GPUs can help accomplish those tasks better. What about a new generation NVIDIA RTX 2080 Super or last-gen NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti? Apple blocked NVIDIA’s Mac web drivers in Mojave so only older Macs can use their GPUs in macOS. But will it work in Windows via Boot Camp or virtualization in Parallels or VMWare? Maybe we should try out an AMD 5700XT GPU which has killer performance for the price and is compatible with macOS? Let’s find out all of this and more!
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  • @snazzy
    @snazzy  4 роки тому +704

    3:45 Haha! Sometimes we make mistakes. I’m out of the country on vacation and my cinematographer did a great job putting the video together but we accidentally slipped the wrong clip in at 3:45 which I didn’t catch on my quick 360p proofing on the bullet train back to Tokyo. This is not the real DDU and should not be downloaded-it is certainly not the one I used in my testing. This is one of many reasons that I recommend running an ad blocker even though my business model is supported by internet display ads. There are some scummy ones out there! I will link the correct one in the description. My apologies for the error! - Quinn

    • @hasanwibowo580
      @hasanwibowo580 4 роки тому +10

      Pin this

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +55

      Was always pinned. ;)

    • @TheTanglyHen1026
      @TheTanglyHen1026 4 роки тому +6

      Snazzy Labs good video bro, big follower here.

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 4 роки тому +8

      ​@@snazzy Why didn't you guys get a Pro Vega II Duo? I clicked thinking I would see a 28.2 TFLOPS graphics card do ray-tracing or run games at 8K..........

    • @mossiegee4674
      @mossiegee4674 4 роки тому +4

      Apple making computers 'Grate' again

  • @shamsulazhar
    @shamsulazhar 4 роки тому +1703

    He should've trolled his viewers and run solitaire on the expensive Mac.

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro 4 роки тому +3

      XD

    • @thomasjensen1590
      @thomasjensen1590 4 роки тому +16

      Hey it can game solitaire, hence it is a gaming computer... LOL

    • @mathewchoe1717
      @mathewchoe1717 4 роки тому +1

      haha good one dude. that made me laugh so hard

    • @anjai4448
      @anjai4448 4 роки тому +1

      Shamsulazhar
      I only wanted to see Minecraft run on this

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 4 роки тому +1

      @@thomasjensen1590 How about some text console games? There must be several nethack versions for macOS. :D

  • @Mooooooof
    @Mooooooof 4 роки тому +2189

    I bet games run grate on this, especially after paying a lot of cheddar

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +279

      That was not a gouda pun.

    • @harvey4385
      @harvey4385 4 роки тому +41

      Im Emmental about these jokes.

    • @petterblakstad8074
      @petterblakstad8074 4 роки тому +87

      You guys got some cheesy humour.

    • @Etienne_H
      @Etienne_H 4 роки тому +3

      When they are not just poorly ported Windows executables, they run better than any PC can game with the same specs. Windows is just too clunky and bad

    • @DASyam-tb7qt
      @DASyam-tb7qt 4 роки тому +40

      @@Etienne_H excuse me, where's the cheese based pun in your comment?

  • @DJTechYT
    @DJTechYT 4 роки тому +613

    Quinn: I will get Nvidia support if I install Windows.
    Apple: Don't worry, we already installed Nvidia blockers for ya. You're welcome.

    • @thegatewaytoprestige
      @thegatewaytoprestige 4 роки тому +9

      If you’re using bootleg you can install Nvidia. Apple include an official article on how to do this on their website.

    • @ster9765
      @ster9765 4 роки тому +12

      nVidia - "We'll strangle our Mac development tools and make them run like shit because we're making money off of miners." nVidia dropped the ball 5 years ago with Apple, not the other way around. I DO NOT develop shit on nVidia anymore and my life is way more profitable and better.

    • @madhusudansawant8157
      @madhusudansawant8157 4 роки тому +8

      Ster isheep detected

    • @JosephOfArabia
      @JosephOfArabia 4 роки тому +1

      Gaming Senpai fandroid / PC fake master race detected

    • @alishahi8703
      @alishahi8703 4 роки тому +5

      @@JosephOfArabia ifart detected

  • @adews7204
    @adews7204 4 роки тому +599

    Most people: install boot camp run windows 10 and play new games.
    Me: would install windows XP in VirtualBox and run space cadet pinball.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +48

      😂

    • @BGRUBBIN
      @BGRUBBIN 4 роки тому +3

      Oh a classic

    • @ChrisChevs
      @ChrisChevs 4 роки тому +3

      CS 1.6

    • @bobby_tablez
      @bobby_tablez 4 роки тому +4

      I know that was a joke but fyi space cadet is available to run in mac os using an emulator!

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 4 роки тому +4

      no need for a emulator, just use wine to run the original xp binary

  • @MigMart75
    @MigMart75 4 роки тому +474

    So, wrap-up:
    "Can You Game on a $6,000 Mac Pro??"
    NO

    • @battyflaps5410
      @battyflaps5410 4 роки тому +5

      tested like 2 games?

    • @MigMart75
      @MigMart75 4 роки тому +15

      @@battyflaps5410 well,,, I believe you can play all the "bubbles games" available on App Store with this mac.

    • @kay0946
      @kay0946 4 роки тому +8

      @@battyflaps5410 you didn't understand a single word this guy said in this video right? If you don't please shut your mouth cuz you look stupid.

    • @halowize
      @halowize 4 роки тому +1

      You summarize the whole video with a NO. 🤣😂

    • @creaturedanaaaaa
      @creaturedanaaaaa 4 роки тому +3

      well yes, but actually no

  • @pepethunder
    @pepethunder 4 роки тому +75

    Remember those “hello Im a mac, and Im a PC” ads where apple tried to place PC as a boring, word/excel work only machine?

    • @therandomdot2563
      @therandomdot2563 4 роки тому +8

      I think the ads would probably have aged just as well as hipster culture. Hipsters have made everything over-complicated these days. They deserve the Apple they have today. Things have just reversed... PC folks are like "it just works". Apple folks are like "I need to google 15 things to see how to make this shit work."

    • @davidebalzarotti7162
      @davidebalzarotti7162 4 роки тому +4

      oh yeah and now Mac is the best for work, PC is the best for gaming, if you want just gaming don't buy a Mac and game lmao

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 4 роки тому +27

      @@davidebalzarotti7162 why is Mac so good for work?
      A PC can literally do everything that a Mac can and then some. The only difference is first-party software from Apple that is only available on a Mac (some of which is also available for Windows, just not the "pro" stuff).
      Still, Adobe Premier is just as good as Final Cut, so you can always find a piece of software on Windows that is at least as good as its equivalent on Mac.
      Also, Macs are overpriced and underpowered (in relation to the price-performance balance).

    • @davidebalzarotti7162
      @davidebalzarotti7162 4 роки тому +1

      @@elimalinsky7069 never seen such bullshit as in this comment, lmao

    • @jwatsss453
      @jwatsss453 4 роки тому +6

      Davide Balzarotti mac is so shit

  • @cd14h85
    @cd14h85 4 роки тому +136

    This guy sounds like the Doug DeMuro of tech

    • @BMW_nation
      @BMW_nation 4 роки тому +9

      😂 lol why is it so accurate he even looks like him

    • @curt8806
      @curt8806 4 роки тому

      Yesss

    • @kay0946
      @kay0946 4 роки тому

      On point 😂

    • @druzzi9054
      @druzzi9054 4 роки тому

      Doug score for this MAC ?

    • @cd14h85
      @cd14h85 4 роки тому +3

      "And now for the weekend categories in styling. The Mac is a handsome machine but not particularly beautiful it gets a 6 out of 10"

  • @QuarioQuario54321
    @QuarioQuario54321 4 роки тому +144

    “Yes” would be an understatement. You could look like a TASer.

  • @ggmdark
    @ggmdark 4 роки тому +291

    So the TLDR would be:
    "Yes, but WHY?"

    • @espro436
      @espro436 4 роки тому +13

      @VideoCommenter i don't know... if you make enough money to buy even basic mac pro, you do also have money to buy or build deticated gaming PC. Besides i would probably not will mix windows and macos on same machine where i make money. Divide and rule you know :).

    • @espro436
      @espro436 4 роки тому +4

      @Wilhelm installing bootcamp and another gpu like 5700xt is a lot of hustle too. And (if you are not sarcastic) 5700xt is nothing like cutting edge for gaming even in 4k and especially on 6k.

    • @TheCrystalGlow
      @TheCrystalGlow 4 роки тому

      TL;DR is just yet another way of being lazy. That statement drives me nuts. When did that even become a thing?

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 4 роки тому

      About 17 years ago, Chris.

    • @OtioseFanatic
      @OtioseFanatic 4 роки тому +1

      More like "Not really without a lot of time, money and work. So why?"

  • @JohnDoe-lo6qj
    @JohnDoe-lo6qj 4 роки тому +87

    Long speech short conclusion: Buy a PC for gaming.

    • @osevhh5432
      @osevhh5432 4 роки тому +8

      John Doe even better just buy a pc

    • @htoosaw9012
      @htoosaw9012 4 роки тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @Mopsie
      @Mopsie 4 роки тому

      Haterade yeah, no thanks.

    • @lolyermad
      @lolyermad 4 роки тому

      yeah but he explains exactly how and why this thing is a piece of shit. i guess you don't like good writing though. thats ok.

  • @hellocony3727
    @hellocony3727 4 роки тому +38

    You’re the only big creator doing in-depth stuff like this, THANK YOU.
    (I’m likely never getting a Mac Pro, though)

  • @vWhiz
    @vWhiz 4 роки тому +173

    Basically your paying that 6000$ pice tag for the Mac case. 😂

    • @comradeakaov408
      @comradeakaov408 4 роки тому +29

      Because that is Apple metal........extracted iron present inside the roots of apple trees

    • @vWhiz
      @vWhiz 4 роки тому

      Ariel Kapell 😂😂😂😂

    • @Astroo40k
      @Astroo40k 4 роки тому +8

      The metal is actually made from vibranium.

    • @ImJustShadow.
      @ImJustShadow. 4 роки тому +10

      I really don’t understand macs I personally built my pc for about $3800 and would destroy this mac in any benchmark. You’re literally paying for the case and OS

    • @maurice7017
      @maurice7017 4 роки тому +7

      @@ImJustShadow. yeah you're paying for a case that looks worse than a 50€ case

  • @jaypunzalan6999
    @jaypunzalan6999 4 роки тому +30

    Consumers: can it play games?
    Apple: we also sell apple stand and soon to come out the apple wheels

  • @pauljin3541
    @pauljin3541 4 роки тому +217

    Yes, you can with windows installed. So it’s a pc

    • @luxembourger
      @luxembourger 4 роки тому +11

      Also Linux probably.

    • @sdushdiu
      @sdushdiu 4 роки тому +4

      luxembourger ...and be stuck with even less apps! All that does is prove that you are literally clueless about command line Unix in the terminal session.

    • @luxembourger
      @luxembourger 4 роки тому +14

      @@sdushdiu Let's agree to disagree, mate.

    • @sdushdiu
      @sdushdiu 4 роки тому +1

      luxembourger Disagree all you like. The fact remains that you are clueless regarding the benefits of a real UNIX over your puny Unix wannabe that, among other things, can run your few puny apps.

    • @nextlifeonearth
      @nextlifeonearth 4 роки тому +5

      @@sdushdiu Only reason Macos is Unix certified is because Apple pays for the certification process. They BARELY comply to the dated spec for Unix. How impressive.
      Linux(with GNU) and other BSDs are mostly if not fully Unix compliant with modern, actually standard features that are universally supported, unlike Macos.
      Application support to me has always been a bad excuse for an OS' superiority. Especially if every single useful application on your OS costs money, even if they only expose functionality that should be there in the first place (like normal scrolling behaviour). Macos has its annoyances and barriers that prevent you from configuring it in a way it's usable.
      There's a reason DXVK works on Linux, but not on Macos and there's a reason most servers run Linux and not Macs, and these advantages carry over to the desktop too.
      But enlighten me, what benefits of your "real UNIX" does Macos have over Linux.

  • @CheckTechNow
    @CheckTechNow 4 роки тому

    your videos are always really nice and informative to watch!! Happy New year Snazzy!! :D

  • @davidcroteau5078
    @davidcroteau5078 4 роки тому +58

    haha he just download a virus instead of the real DDU

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +23

      Lol I didn’t even notice this when proofing the video. My cinematographer filmed all of this while was away on vacation. Whoops!

    • @paft
      @paft 4 роки тому +1

      @@snazzy Yeah, I thought that was a joke.

  • @skatcat743
    @skatcat743 4 роки тому +11

    Why didn't you use both amd cards at the same time? By passing one of the radeons into windows and keeping the other one just for mac os?

  • @joonasmyllymaki3297
    @joonasmyllymaki3297 4 роки тому

    You’re videos are the best cause they have 2 of my passions in the same video. Watches and technology. Nice rolex you got there :)

  • @x3oimprov
    @x3oimprov 4 роки тому

    First time tuning in. Awesome content, presentation, and narration. Will come again-

  • @jedox01
    @jedox01 4 роки тому +6

    Most of the times, I don't know what you're saying Quinn, but I'm watching anyway.

  • @TetsugakuEpistimi
    @TetsugakuEpistimi 4 роки тому +6

    5:03 top right of his head
    Ghost Adventures: ITS A SPIRIT TRYING TO CONTACT US FROM THE BEYOND

  • @meandkg
    @meandkg 4 роки тому

    Awesome video! I love watching your videos to get the quick updates on cool new things, and learning what I should and should not buy XD

  • @fabio.canales
    @fabio.canales 4 роки тому

    Great video. Thanks for the concise info.I really the voice intonation and script. Fantastic video.

  • @M00NM0NEY
    @M00NM0NEY 4 роки тому +74

    Great vid, Quinn! I know you've prepared yourself for the flood of "PC Gamers" and "Apple snobs" that don't retain all that valuable information, (and hit the comments section after reading the title) but I love how critical you are about hardware like this!
    On a side note... are you going to cover tech at CES this year?

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +19

      Not going to make it to CES this year, sadly. I’m in Japan! :)

    • @mashiroinoue
      @mashiroinoue 4 роки тому +1

      Snazzy Labs If you’re in Tokyo hit up Tsukumo or Softmap in Akihabara!
      *edit Softbank to Softmap

    • @mikkelbreiler3846
      @mikkelbreiler3846 4 роки тому

      @@mashiroinoue Or Strange Parts

  • @Saschabrix
    @Saschabrix 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the review and your time really interesting.
    My question is:
    -If the 5700XT was an eGPU. Does windows run also "OK" with it?

    • @c.m3558
      @c.m3558 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah. Its a regular RX 5700xt.
      I feel like the whole point of this video was to rage about Nvidia and Apple incompatibility, even tho someone buying a Mac Pro could just grab a 5700 xt to game on. Or just buy a Vega instead of the RX580X

  • @fahhad17
    @fahhad17 4 роки тому

    Like like , love you video ... most informative you tuber . We always learn some thing

  • @YasinHasan
    @YasinHasan 4 роки тому

    Even though i dont like macs i watch your videos. learnt many things from you, even about windows & PCs

  • @OfficialDJSoru
    @OfficialDJSoru 4 роки тому +21

    Steve Jobs: "It just works"
    Getting a sense of Déjà Vu here

  • @victorx4648
    @victorx4648 4 роки тому +22

    Still can't justify the price of this computer, except the ProRes + Afterburner… which is a very weird investment. But I like your videos and approach.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +11

      Thanks! We can’t justify the cost either, but it’s pretty fun. 😉

    • @amw6394
      @amw6394 4 роки тому +4

      Does anyone else think that if Steve Jobs was alive today Apple would be waaaaay better
      He lowered the cost of the iPhone 3 to like £300, I don't see Apple doing that today

    • @atisbasak
      @atisbasak 3 роки тому

      @@snazzy The cost is easily justified for professionals who work on video editing, extreme 3D rendering, scientific computation and machine learning. The Mac Pro is cheaper than Windows workstations with similar specs like the Dell Precision 7920 and HP Z8 G4.

    • @atisbasak
      @atisbasak 3 роки тому

      @@amw6394 iPhone SE costs $400 contract free. The iPhone 3G Foster $300 for a two year contract.

  • @netcruzer
    @netcruzer 4 роки тому +1

    But how did you get the pcie power cables needed for a standard graphics card?

  • @rocondon
    @rocondon 4 роки тому

    Quinn!!! You need to talk about your watch game in a video, always on point!

  • @savage_tribal_chief
    @savage_tribal_chief 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you Snazzy Labs. I'm switching to custom gaming PC with windows.

    • @billB101
      @billB101 4 роки тому +1

      I feel so much better right now about my decision to not go the Mac Pro route ( after 20 years of using MacOS ) and going the Ryzen 3950x 2080TI route instead.

    • @savage_tribal_chief
      @savage_tribal_chief 4 роки тому

      @@billB101 .Ever since of that MAC PRO I thought it was gonna be a badass gaming computer but macs are only for those photography and video editing and music. Tim Cook is dumb should've mad the mac pro for gaming and that right there apple could've dominate.

    • @billB101
      @billB101 4 роки тому

      @@savage_tribal_chief To be honest, that's what I do ( video, 3D VFX) I have no interest in gaming on my work rig.

  • @xplodingmojo2087
    @xplodingmojo2087 4 роки тому +26

    *spending $6,000 on the Mac Pro*
    “But can it run Minecraft?”

  • @shaunfidler
    @shaunfidler 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this! Very cool to see :)

  • @Huzzahgamers_inc
    @Huzzahgamers_inc 4 роки тому

    As per usual, you nailed it!

  • @GamePlanet204
    @GamePlanet204 4 роки тому +4

    4:53 hunt showdown! masterpiece

  • @tsco93
    @tsco93 4 роки тому +22

    Everything really used to "just work", at least when Steve was around. Apple is trash now. :(

    • @therandomdot2563
      @therandomdot2563 4 роки тому +11

      I'm not particularly an Apple fan, but I definitely agree with your statement. Steve would have seen a video like this and yelled at his engineers. "WHY IS THIS SO COMPLICATED! IT SHOULD JUST PLAY A G*D D**N GAME!"
      Cook probably sees this as more vendor lockin / walled garden. "Make it harder for them to do non-Apple things on the Mac. I want them to SUFFER if they try! Remind them who their master is!"

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 4 роки тому +2

      u mean like the iphone 4 just worked ? lose all ya signal if u " hold it wrong " jobs blamed the users for that problem, he isnt a genius he is arrogant

    • @therandomdot2563
      @therandomdot2563 4 роки тому +5

      @@girlsdrinkfeck He did have his arrogant moments. Definitely. But, most of the time he acted like the "asshole user that just wants shit to work". That was his primary role at the company. He pushed engineers to make things easier to use. Didn't always work. And, Steve started getting caught-up in his own self-importance at times. But, the iPhone sort of set the standard for smartphones to come. The iPad made tablets more accessible to normal folks. (Microsoft and others tried to make tablets before then, but they always wanted stylus or the touch interface was awful. Steve pushed for a very robust touch-only interface). Steve wasn't perfect. But, he pushed for innovation. Ever since Tim Cook took over, Apple seems to be barely staying ahead of others on the hardware front. To be fair, you can only do so much with hardware before it becomes a commodity that everyone is doing equally well. But, their big "innovation" is to do what everyone else is doing: just make everything a service and get people to pay monthly fees. But, they want to make it where you can only use their services on their devices. So, they're tryign to turn their expensive devices into very expensive keys to a walled garden. As the devices lag in innovation, and the services are "also ran" versions of others that are equally good.. folks start to wonder why they're sticking with Apple and it's expensive lock-in model. Apple should be focusing on battery tech to make iPhones that last weeks on a single charge. (They own a lot of battery patents, but don't seem to be leveraging them as well as they could). Instead, they've switched from innovator to follower.

    • @tristanpaulpestano544
      @tristanpaulpestano544 4 роки тому

      Isn’t Steve Jobs hated when he is a CEO? Media trash him and PC users trash him and Apple users. People always make fun of him and his fans. But when he died, everyone took a 180 on him

  • @Esotericway
    @Esotericway 4 роки тому

    Rarely comment on youtube videos, but I LOVED that you played Hunt: Showdown in your tests!

  • @BlastingKyogre
    @BlastingKyogre 4 роки тому

    Finally, the question everyone had been asking

  • @Apevia21
    @Apevia21 4 роки тому +3

    Something I would love to know, with a 3rd party graphics card installed as the only GPU in the 2019 Mac Pro, do you get a boot screen? Or is it like with the old cheese graters where you can use other graphics cards but have no boot screen/boot selector?

    • @FinnRenard
      @FinnRenard 4 роки тому

      No boot screen unless the card has Mac bios.

  • @themanthemyththelegend1392
    @themanthemyththelegend1392 4 роки тому +15

    This one has no wires tho! Excellent design, the one I estimated was 57 grand.......

    • @thegatewaytoprestige
      @thegatewaytoprestige 4 роки тому +2

      Then buy your own ram and suddenly it’s only $25 grand. You’re welcome.

  • @applepulse
    @applepulse 4 роки тому

    Tnx for your content😍
    Can you test vega 11 duo!?🥺
    I really want to see

  • @mohammedkazem1826
    @mohammedkazem1826 2 роки тому

    Nice work 👏

  • @victorvanburen48
    @victorvanburen48 4 роки тому +3

    4:29 OMG Todd Howard wasn't the first guy who said it!
    "IT JUST WORKS"

  • @mikkelbreiler3846
    @mikkelbreiler3846 4 роки тому +4

    4:20 I really like that joke. How many hours of Steve did you have to endure to make that ?

  • @mirkomilova
    @mirkomilova 4 роки тому

    Just FYI, DDU can easily disable windows automatic driver install via Its options and selecting the appropriate checkbox

  • @sebastianwietz5647
    @sebastianwietz5647 4 роки тому

    Hi there, interesting video. I have a couple of questions though:
    1.) Can you still use the Mac Startup Manager with the Radeon 5700XT installed in your Mac Pro 2019 (do you see it on the display)?
    2.) Can you boot back into Mac OS from Windows (using the Boot Camp app) without any hassle?
    3.) Is it mandatory to remove the MPX graphics card before you can use the Radeon 5700XT in Windows via Boot Camp, or can you have both cards simultaneously in your Mac Pro 2019 (with your display connected only to the Radeon 5700XT, and no displays connected to the MPX graphics card)?

  • @azimalif266
    @azimalif266 4 роки тому +8

    "Just works" 😁.

  • @shashanka8344
    @shashanka8344 4 роки тому +50

    flexing a PCIe switch
    -quin nelson 2020

    • @meloD30
      @meloD30 4 роки тому +2

      To be fair, he's flexing a very 'snazzy' PCIe switch.

    • @shashanka8344
      @shashanka8344 4 роки тому

      @@meloD30 yeah😂

  • @caffeinepizza
    @caffeinepizza 4 роки тому +1

    To be fair, the whole "the system must run what it was shipped with" is not always true. However, in practice it is. One example that comes to mind is being able to run Snow Leopard 10.6.8 (I believe 10.6.8 introduced the changed keyboard layout) on a MacBook Pro Late 2011 which shipped with Lion (MacBookPro8,1). The reason it worked was because it was an almost identical system to the early 2011 MacBook Pro and shared the same model ID. I haven't tried it on the 2015 and 2017 MacBook Air (since they share the same MacbookAir7,x model ID), but it may actually be possible to run pre-Sierra macOS on the 2017 MacBook Air.

  • @SnakeBP
    @SnakeBP 4 роки тому

    Snazzy Labs where is the links that you was pointing at in the top right? I did not see anything there when I tried to see it when your video was still playing. Will you be adding them in when you can or are you just leaving it out to miss lead people? 2:56 to 3:00 and 8:50 to 8:55

  • @mitchellsmith4601
    @mitchellsmith4601 4 роки тому +48

    You forgot to include the link to your PPC to x86 switch video at around 2:58.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +8

      Added to the description. My apologies. Am in Japan and UA-cam’s mobile apps suck and don’t allow me to add these haha

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 4 роки тому +2

      @@snazzy You're in Japan?? I usually hate vlogs but for Japan I'd take a gander. It's such a weird place.

  • @colevano
    @colevano 4 роки тому +6

    Can the $6000 Mac Pro game?
    Not without another several hundred dollars for an extra part!

  • @VJROMULUS
    @VJROMULUS 4 роки тому

    Do you have the afterburner Card and when will you be doing some test with Final Cut and Logic. Hope you had an awesome trip. Matt Lemos

  • @TheRealLink
    @TheRealLink 4 роки тому

    Good to know, and well, pretty much what I thought. Surprising though in a sense that you can still easily support an aftermarket AMD GPU on the machine - I didn't personally know how locked into the full length passive cards for GPUs that Apple sells that you had to be. Nice to see it's somewhat flexible that way.

  • @RafaelPSchaefer
    @RafaelPSchaefer 4 роки тому +115

    tutorial#1: how to play on mac?
    1- u don't. instal windows.

    • @NIKONOVICH1990
      @NIKONOVICH1990 4 роки тому +1

      True as hell :)

    • @gabrielschroll3824
      @gabrielschroll3824 4 роки тому +6

      Ah. But it's "How to play on Mac". Not "How to play on Mac OS".

    • @cosmicentity9899
      @cosmicentity9899 4 роки тому +1

      😁😁😁😂😂🤣☝️☝️👌👌👌👍👍👍👐👐👐👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤛🤛🤜🤜🤜👊👊👊👊✊✊✊✊

    • @cosmicentity9899
      @cosmicentity9899 4 роки тому

      @@NIKONOVICH1990 ✊✊✊👊👏👏👏👏👏🤜🤛🤛

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 4 роки тому +1

      Linux.

  • @Baerchenization
    @Baerchenization 4 роки тому +85

    I can build a computer for the quarter of the price that has better performance...

    • @slashbrackets3397
      @slashbrackets3397 4 роки тому +18

      No kidding....its absurd what they charge for such garbage when compared to a built PC.

    • @chrisevans936
      @chrisevans936 4 роки тому +10

      @@slashbrackets3397 go watch some real Mac Pro videos and you will see you are sadly mistaken...this machine is not for gaming..it is for professionals...hence the name

    • @jakeMFbacon
      @jakeMFbacon 4 роки тому +36

      @@chrisevans936 he literally made fun of this thinking in this video... hardware that's good for gaming and professionally work is basically the same these days unless you need a ton of cores. But no... no professional would buy the base model mac pro if they know anything at all about computers. It's way underpowered and overpriced. If you cant afford one of the higher end mac pros than you re really should not be buying one. And even then if you buy you're own storage and ram.youd save a ton of money. You can also build PCs that are better and cheaper that are just as good or better, imo, for professional work.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 4 роки тому +2

      @@chrisevans936 its a very powerfull machine so its supposed to be able to play some good heavy games

    • @psuemor1651
      @psuemor1651 4 роки тому +22

      @@chrisevans936 the $50k Mac comes with graphics cards that are not really better than an RTX 2060 Super, you would be way better off spending $20k-25K on a systen with 4x RTX TITANS 24GB and DUAL XEONs (if you even want Xeon processors), Quadro cards are a bit overrated but you could go up to $30K-$35K for a system that has 4x Quadros RTX 8000 48GB , either the Titans or the Quadros would completely beat 7 of the best AMD graphics cards has to offer (that are not the ones that come with the Mac Pro), so i really hope you are trolling cause you don't know shit about professional work.

  • @LordAiRen
    @LordAiRen 4 роки тому

    @Snazzy Labs - DX12 isn't yet supported, the games will default to DX11. As for Memory, there's a way to increase it beyond 8GB (Which will help in graphics rendering), and if you'd like I could get you in touch with the right people if you want to explore this further for kicks. Thanks!

  • @PierrePotonnier
    @PierrePotonnier 3 роки тому

    I love the little cheese grater on your desk. What a wonderful tribute to apple.

  • @ShortFinal
    @ShortFinal 4 роки тому +6

    The lesson we can learn from this. If you buy something that looks like a cheese grater, it will probably run like a cheese grater.

  • @domenicpolsoni8370
    @domenicpolsoni8370 4 роки тому +6

    I'm a simple man. I see a new Snazzy Labs video, I watch and then upvote.

  • @dom1310df
    @dom1310df 4 роки тому

    Can you do a follow up video evaluating the effectiveness of the cheese grater on the front of the case?

  • @bananas1055
    @bananas1055 4 роки тому

    Great video, can you benchmark the mac againdt your hack Pro?

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for showing us that the 5700XT does work in Mac OS and that new Mac Pro. Happy New Year Quinn.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +1

      Cheers!

    • @hautehussey
      @hautehussey 4 роки тому +1

      As does the Radeon VII.

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 4 роки тому +1

      hautehussey Oh yeah! I saw that and I would be more interested in that card. Thank you. (:

  • @icrashedyourcar328
    @icrashedyourcar328 4 роки тому +6

    No
    ~ *roll credits* ~

  • @meloD30
    @meloD30 4 роки тому

    It's unfortunate that my invitation to Japan got lost in the mail.
    I guess I'll settle for a Japan vlog instead.
    Best gold-grater content as usual, easy to enjoy even though I've no intention of buying one.

  • @Applecompuser
    @Applecompuser 4 роки тому

    Finally. This is what we want to know!!

  • @aparks1437
    @aparks1437 4 роки тому +3

    with a 6k mac pro, i can now play minesweeper in 8k!

  • @TechTimeWithEric
    @TechTimeWithEric 4 роки тому +26

    Are you related to Dough DeMuro?

    • @BrawndoQC
      @BrawndoQC 4 роки тому

      Why is this comment always written? They don't even look alike or speak similarly.

    • @TechTimeWithEric
      @TechTimeWithEric 4 роки тому +7

      @@BrawndoQC I don't generally go through the comments, so I've never seen it. But I've been watching some Doug DeMuro and found they look and sound similar.

    • @SlenderSmurf
      @SlenderSmurf 4 роки тому +1

      @@BrawndoQC they have similar speech rhythmn

    • @TSVPLIN
      @TSVPLIN 4 роки тому

      Brawndo think. then think again

    • @waifubreaks1572
      @waifubreaks1572 3 роки тому

      quirks and features

  • @frostybe3r
    @frostybe3r 4 роки тому

    So, how does this compare to my 2080 Ti SLI setup in gaming?

  • @okhouri
    @okhouri 4 роки тому

    Just the video I wanted to see

  • @dragon67849
    @dragon67849 4 роки тому +8

    Can we: Yes
    Should we: *laughs in mac saying* No

  • @SebSWib
    @SebSWib 4 роки тому +6

    what wtf... this 6000$ "pc" litteraly has the same GPU as my littlebrother's 600$ budget build??? wow, what dafuq is wrong with apple?

    • @nabz6817
      @nabz6817 4 роки тому

      SebSWib mac books are *not meant* for gaming

    • @SebSWib
      @SebSWib 4 роки тому +2

      @@nabz6817 i know.. but still

    • @LegitCharge
      @LegitCharge 4 роки тому

      @@nabz6817 If it can game, it can do everything else.

    • @Xishnik94
      @Xishnik94 4 роки тому

      @@nabz6817 They are meant for *nothing*

  • @Justgoodvids
    @Justgoodvids 4 роки тому

    Love the lighting and the crisp quality. Thanks for your $6400+ sacrifice

    • @chopcookies
      @chopcookies 4 роки тому

      He is milking it with this amount of videos, i dont see a sacrifice

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому

      I do as I’ve yet to break even.

    • @chopcookies
      @chopcookies 4 роки тому

      @@snazzy and i have been watching a majority of them😉

  • @curt1s19
    @curt1s19 4 роки тому +1

    You could make a passthrough of Nvidia through KVM, like on extra display it runs Windows for gaming, and after powering it off it extends current display, but it's like having gpu only for gaming and using osx with a cpu, or with stock mp card

  • @Russell970
    @Russell970 4 роки тому +22

    next time do the opposite and game on the cheapest pc

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +9

      Check my $70 hackintosh video!

    • @Russell970
      @Russell970 4 роки тому +3

      Snazzy Labs already did but I meant a PC running Windows hehehe

    • @icrashedyourcar328
      @icrashedyourcar328 4 роки тому

      Gets better performance

    • @mikkelbreiler3846
      @mikkelbreiler3846 4 роки тому

      @@snazzy For the poor among us, could you decide on a time limit after which the video becomes free so we can build a Hackintosh at less expense ?

  • @TheAlienGangster
    @TheAlienGangster 4 роки тому +5

    For $5000 (not including the stand), they should’ve at least included variable refresh rate tech in the Pro Display

  • @Thijs_NL
    @Thijs_NL 4 роки тому

    the sound of that PCI-X release.. i've heard that before. I think from an old IBM computer.. had the same option, located more towards the spot where you screw in your cards. They also had a big button to unlock it. At least, the sound is almost identical as I recall :p (it was an old IBM, P166 MX2)

  • @Formulka
    @Formulka 4 роки тому

    Why didn't you try the mac os version of Tomb Raider with the 5700 XT? Or am I missing something?

  • @chloedegurechaff1941
    @chloedegurechaff1941 4 роки тому +3

    I play civ 6 on my 2009 mac pro. it plays it at 1440p pretty well imo.
    Edir: for those who might wonder. Mojave doesnt support boot camp for the older cheesegraters.

    • @chloedegurechaff1941
      @chloedegurechaff1941 4 роки тому

      I dont care for boot camp. I have a 590 in my machine. I also have 5675s. so I've already done that XD Still have those pops too XD

    • @Apevia21
      @Apevia21 4 роки тому

      @@chloedegurechaff1941 What are these pops we are talking about? I have a 2012 Mac Pro with two X5680's and a 2009 Mac Pro with a single E5645 (old CPU from the 2012) and I haven't noticed any pop sounds

    • @chloedegurechaff1941
      @chloedegurechaff1941 4 роки тому

      @uwu manko Mojave. I dont really care to upgrade.

    • @chloedegurechaff1941
      @chloedegurechaff1941 4 роки тому

      @@Apevia21 Every once in a while my speakers will pop. doesnt matter what jack its threw. other than the front, the front doesnt do it from what ive seen. but its just some random loud pop that gets played threw my speakers. ive tried figuring it out but all i get is people with the macbook pro speaker popping thing. and just left to old computer has quirks.

  • @MacGuy3135
    @MacGuy3135 4 роки тому +3

    *Looks at my year old Mac mini with an eGPU in it that can game almost as well as my actual gaming PC*

  • @MrJohn2475
    @MrJohn2475 4 роки тому

    Thank you Quinn. I own a MBP 2014 15' 2.5 GHz Quad-Core i7 with 16GB RAM and NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M (2GB)...any recommendations to play any good games on this machine? :(

  • @Joe-bp8bb
    @Joe-bp8bb 4 роки тому

    now, whats the proper way to remove boot camp? Disk utility or using the boot camp assistant?

  • @busywl69
    @busywl69 4 роки тому +4

    a $6k computer should be able to play all games at ultra settings out of the box lol.

  • @frontleverguy2216
    @frontleverguy2216 4 роки тому +3

    Best rig in my opinion:
    Ryzen 9 3950x
    Nvidia RTX Titan V

    • @brori2039
      @brori2039 4 роки тому

      Costs less than this Mac.

    • @elimalinsky7069
      @elimalinsky7069 4 роки тому

      Good luck finding drivers that have any graphics APIs at all for the Titan V.
      The Titan V is for massively parallel vector computing, not for gaming, even though technically the GPU has all the hardware support for gaming, since it's built on the same architecture as the Titan X.

  • @CTJonze
    @CTJonze 4 роки тому

    Lets get crazy!! Give us a video with two amd cards with the 580x in your mac pro. Blow our minds!!

  • @rockking1379
    @rockking1379 4 роки тому

    I would be interested to see if / how well virtualizing Mac OS works out on native hardware. So install something like unraid and have a dedicated Mac OS vm with the rx 580 while also running another vm with the 5700 xt. Or even the 1080 ti. Maybe a video idea to explore.

  • @SaccoBelmonte
    @SaccoBelmonte 4 роки тому +2

    I'm still amazed that POS costs 6000 and comes with an RX580 GPU

  • @ReikazeRambles
    @ReikazeRambles 4 роки тому +11

    The stock config - Spend $6000 to get gaming performance like a PS4 🤣

    • @profesercreeper
      @profesercreeper 4 роки тому +1

      Pretty sure the stock rx580 would perform better than a ps4 however the bad gaming support on macOS made it perform worse.

  • @mrhats830
    @mrhats830 4 роки тому

    Where did you find a AMD 5700 xt for $350? I’ve been looking around all weekend and I’ve only seen $400+ 5700 xt prices.

  • @saqibhasan101
    @saqibhasan101 4 роки тому

    Hi - posted this on your intel video too but wasn't sure if you would read it - apologies for double/cross posting:
    Based on this, do you think it is worth waiting until they ARM the MacPro? I am tempted to replace my 2007 MP (heavily invested in PCI expanded slots including a RAID using mini-SAS so trying to save some money) but if they are likely to update the MP in the next year or so, I may just wait. I was tempted to upgrade this year to the base model and then over time add another faster CPU etc but my worry is that a) the chips will not be easy to get hold of and b) the ARM systems will be crazy faster.

  • @macaronivirus5913
    @macaronivirus5913 4 роки тому +5

    Replace the motherboard and everything else, then install windows

  • @theloniousMac
    @theloniousMac 4 роки тому +5

    Yes, obviously you can. The question is “Can you game well?” The answer is “Depends on how you define ‘well.’ “

  • @graxspoo
    @graxspoo 4 роки тому

    Did you try native gaming in macOS once you installed the AMD 5700?

  • @ronaldsanpedro1976
    @ronaldsanpedro1976 4 роки тому

    Can you try your vega 64 from ryzentosh to your macpro? Im curious if it would handle metal compute better than the 5700xt

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto 4 роки тому +5

    That's like asking if you can take a Ferrari to shop at Costco.
    You can, but that's not what it's meant for.

    • @burd7455
      @burd7455 4 роки тому +3

      Terrible analogy.

    • @gabbodj95
      @gabbodj95 4 роки тому +1

      Burd ok gamer

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +5

      lol next you’re gonna tell me I shouldn’t take my Sienna to the track...

    • @SolidGreenDay
      @SolidGreenDay 4 роки тому

      shitty comparison. Ferrari is more than capable of shopping at costco, I get that you don't bring a sports car for shopping, but he had to install a 5700xt to get it to game well. The actual mac pro could not game well

    • @YouTube2021FM
      @YouTube2021FM 4 роки тому

      Probably more like taking a G whizz to shop at Costco. The Mac doesn’t even have the horsepower at this price to game well.

  • @arunantony3207
    @arunantony3207 4 роки тому +7

    Quinn, I don’t get it - PC brother in Arm here - the whole point is lost when you install a windows on a Mac to run games !

    • @thegatewaytoprestige
      @thegatewaytoprestige 4 роки тому +1

      You dont need to. I run high end games on my 2019 iMac just fine at 120fps maxed. Don’t need to use boot camp other than to gain access to windows only games.

    • @OzzyBoganTech
      @OzzyBoganTech 4 роки тому

      And a GPU, A 6k computer that you then have to upgrade with a decent GPU WTF

    • @thegatewaytoprestige
      @thegatewaytoprestige 4 роки тому

      @@OzzyBoganTech Not at all, considering I run AAA games "tomb raider, etc" on even my old 2019 iMac 5k maxed out and get 120fps. A Vega 64 or higher runs games just fine on all 2018 Macs and above.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 4 роки тому

      @@OzzyBoganTech You're paying for everything else, the GPU is more of a "this will run a display or two" thing than much else. The same board that you plug that 1.5TB of RAM and 28 core CPU is the one you find in that base model so there's a LOT of overhead for upgrades. Other OEM's would give you a less capable board for their cheaper options that would then limit you long term.

    • @OzzyBoganTech
      @OzzyBoganTech 4 роки тому

      @@TalesOfWar you can get a impressive computer for 6k

  • @satzlefraz
    @satzlefraz 4 роки тому

    Yo, what monitor is that in the background of the video? It looks like an LG 4k monitor, but I just want to be sure.

  • @sinbad269
    @sinbad269 4 роки тому

    4:14 Display Driver Uninstaller [not Display Driver Reviver] is meant to stop drivers from being reinstalled. And it has options that will fit for all scenarios; whether you're wiping them to replace the gpu with 1 from the other manufacturer, you're upgrading to another from the same manufacturer, or you're just reinstalling the drivers - these won't effect what actually gets uninstalled, just what the pc does after that [reboot, stay on, shutdown].

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому

      In theory, except Boot Camp drivers insist on re-installing every time you remove something until the tool is disabled within Windows.