70013 Oliver Cromwell at speed thru Chelmsford , firebox flames visible
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- British Railways Standard Class 7 'Britannia' 4-6-2 'Pacific' steam locomotive 70013 'Oliver Cromwell' passes southbound at speed through Chelmsford Station in the County of Essex (UK) on 'The Broadsman' railtour March 11th 2011. You can see the firebox flames flashing orange in the smoke as the train passes through.
I rode this train from Kings Cross London to Sheringham in Norfolk. This was a very special train as it was the first train to transverse the crossing at Sheringham into the heritage North Norfolk Railway in 40 odd years. I disembarked at Colchester some 25 miles away on the return railtour leg to London as the train did not stop in my home town. I took a service train in front of this one in order to film this this video. I think it was worth the wait.
70013 is a very special steam locomotive. It is one of only two surviving 'Britannia's' in preservation out of 55 locomotives built.
70013 was built at British Railways Crewe Works in May 1951 and delivered to Norwich Crown Point Depot soon after and ran on the the London to Norwich Great Eastern Main Line ie through this station until 1963.
70013 was then transferred to Carlisle Kingmoor depot and this actual locomotive ran the very last steam passenger train prior to the withdrawal of steam altogether on British Railways on August 11th 1968.
The very next day August 12th 1968 'Ollie' arrived back in East Anglia en route for a new home at Bressingham Steam Museum at Diss in Norfolk.
Restoration to bring 'Ollie' back to steam began in 2004 at the Great Central Railway Loughborough and on August 10th 2008 'Ollie' was back on the mainline for the first time in 40 years.
Stuart Axe
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Many comments have asked why there's a diesel locomotive at the end of the train. Just to reiterate this is a support locomotive. It's switched on but not actually pushing the train at this point. It's there as insurance in case of a breakdown of the steam locomotive on this very busy commuter mainline. It also drags or shunts the train out of terminus stations such as Norwich and at Liverpool Street for example where it hauls the train back to its home depot after the end of the tour. It also provides power for the electric train heating.
Class 37!
It also acts as the brakes, in many cases.
On FA Cup Final day 1966 I had gone train spotting to Preston. My mum told me I couldn’t go on my own so my gran offered to come with me. 70013 came through pulling a freight train. She had been recently cleaned and looked beautiful. Now, every time I see 70013 I think of that day and my gran.
I so want to ride on a steam train again
When I was about ten in the early 60s I had the privilege to see Mallard come through the valley where I lived. It returned in the early hours of the morning. My father woke me up, and we had the joy of seeing her coming round the bend across the valley and like this clip her footplate was lit up from the firebox. Memories :)
God bless you sir
No loves for me?😁
@@danperry6217 Everybody loves ya’ Dan. Don’t feel bad.
I was at Chelmsford station in the early sixties and my mum was moaning about the soot on her coat. I was fascinated by the noise, smells and the drive gear on the train on the opposite platform.
Something about it says souls onboard bound for Hades.
I think the mournful whistle before it is really in sight sets up the idea in your head, the train shines darkly and the loco too, then there is the flames and smoke... very sinister and impressive!
In 1967 as a fireman, the driver and myself took the last steam engine a black 5 off Holbeck shed before total dieselisation of the shed. It had been a stand by engine for a charter last steam hauled special. It was gleeming, but for our trip only Leeds to Skipton then on to Carnforth with a string of empty coal wagons. Don't know if it was preserved.
Always glad to see the Lord Protector back on home turf.
Ah, memories of my childhood days on Luton Station in the 50's. Thank you.
Lovely!😀👍
Terrific, I remember seeing another video of I think a Spamcan lighting up the exhaust even more than this.
I hadn't known that fireboxes could illuminate the undersides of the gases they emit as they zoom along 🍸
Reminds me of my early childhood. I used to watch the old steam trains on a local line. You could see the train coming from miles away - because of the glow of the firebox. Ahh memories !
Nice...
Can I use this video in my train compilation video ... credit to you and link in description will be given
No problem
@@StuartAxe thanks buddy...
Very nostalgic - takes me back to when the Brits were on the up morning boat train through Chelmsford about 8.45.
Fantastic colour effects of the fire on the steam! Reminds me of traveling behind the Sir Nigel Greeley into a tunnel - suddenly the mouth of the tunnel seemed full of flame!
WoW....what a sight and to see the flames coming out and the speed of it, just wish I was there, funny to see it towing the diesel behind it lol! 🚂
Like an American Alco diesel stack fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘
Or an EMD diesel flaming at the stack! Yes, I've seen it in a photo in Trains Magazine over 30 years ago, before Photoshop! That's right...no alterations! True story so help me.
Why is there all these videos of steam trains towing modern diesel locos, are the diesel trains so unreliable that they have to have steam trains on hand to rescue them when they breakdown?
No these are special steam hauled railtours/charters. The steam loco is meant to be on the front. The diesel is there to aid shunting at a terminus station for e.g. Also for providing power to the coaches for electric train heating. Occasionally the diesel may assist the steam loco if it needs assistance on gradients or slippery track during autumn or during a hot weather spell when theres a risk of lineside fires.
How come it didn’t stop to let you take pictures!!
How rude.
Is the diesel locomotive at the rear also powering the train, or is it only there for emergencies?
This is a support locomotive. It's switched on but not actually pushing the train at this point. It's there as insurance in case of a breakdown of the steam locomotive on this very busy commuter mainline. It also drags or shunts the train out of terminus stations such as Norwich and at Liverpool Street for example where it hauls the train back to its home depot after the end of the tour. It also provides power for the electric train heating.
That's a REAL train. (minus the diesel). Reminds me of Strelnikov's personal train in Dr Zhivago....
Good old Ollie. Notice how he's helping a diesel that's broken down too.
It’s not broken down
But Ollie smokes like a chimney...
Lol.
@@TheMusicalElitist Correct, unlike your sense of humour...that's well fkd up LOL Muppet.
Collons que bonic salutacións desde Catalunya
Like a speed demon raising hell through the night!!!!!
When I was a small boy my dad took me to see the Harwich to The Hook Boat Train coming through Chelmsford station one evening. The story goes that as it got near to us I disappeared into the Gents in fright!
I remember watching GWR expresses speeding through Maidenhead when I was a teenager. The exhaust beat of the Kings and Castles was just a purr!
This loco pulled me on the Scarborough Spa Express some years back. She had the most haunting whistle I’ve ever heard.
Memories of steam trains.Used to go from Cheshire to Telford on steam train in the 60's when my dads car was off the road.Cant beat them
Steam with a diesel behind it .PMSl
Unfortunately it's a mainline requirement these days...they seem to think that diesels are more reliable than steam...
@@chrismoule7242 It is not a mainline requirement, plenty of tours run without a diesel on the back. Granted on some routes it IS a requirement but often the diesel is there for operational reasons like taking the train to the starting station especially if it is a terminus or taking the train out of a terminus at the end of a tour.
@@juleshathaway3894 Yes Jules, used for Shunting duties.
Thank you for this. I thought Oliver Cromwell died in 1658. Steam trains must go back a lot further than I had realised.
Fire, water, iron. Back to the basics!
Oliver Cromwell is a wonderfully LOUD locomotive.
THERE WAS NO TRAIN SPOTTER TOO STOOD NEAR THE EDGE OF THE TRACK AND NO ONE GOING EEEUUUUOOO!!!!!!
Great bit of filing. Thank you.
If the diesel on the back is to provide electric what did they use in the 50's and 60's? It brings back my memories as a kid of standing on the railway bridge at Cotteridge/Kings Norton taking their numbers as they passed beneath and going home smelling of smoke!
Coaches in earlier days were steam heated, provided by the Loco. Mostly electric now, the Diesel also performs Shunting duties at their destination if there’s no Pilot available.
Carriages generated their own electric power (for lighting) by means of dynamos powered by the bogie axles (charging batteries)
@@lawrence18uk Yes Mk 1 Coaches did, but not so much today, ETH is what is common now.
Spine tingling!
Classic!
All trains should slow down when approaching stations
Why do so many of those train specials seem to be empty?
Steam! Stuart
Beautiful and a very dramatic video
The fireman (stoker) has opened the firebox door to shovel in coal, so the glare of the fire illuminates the exhaust from underneath. When the door is shut the effect stops.
This is so cool.
Why is there a diesel pushing it as well?
It's a support locomotive. It's switched on but not actually pushing the train at this point. It's there as insurance in case of a breakdown of the steam locomotive on the mainline. It also drags the train out of terminus stations such as Norwich and at Liverpool Street for example where it hauls the train back to its home depot after the end of the tour. It also provides power for the electric train heating.
Très belle vidéo👌👌👍😉
Great
Open fire hole door and steam reflecting the light/glare. Perfectly normal.
I remember that well as a kid watching the trains at night climbing the gradient out of Weymouth.
I agree John, nothing unusual there at all, NO firebox flames visible.
@@juleshathaway3894 Shut the fk up you miserable twats. Fkn idiots.
@@markholroyde9412 Why should I?
@@juleshathaway3894 Your life must be pretty damn boring if you can find the time to moan about a vid like that and pick it apart....you need help.
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Strange to see train and then the computer screens 🤔 a time meld
Cognitive Dissonance.
Outstanding
How much smoke came out chimney
I m surprised these type of trains had been off the rake i thought but story s different
Oo nice
Not really anything like a.... a Pendulino, is it?
Why do the pull a diesel behind them or is it there to push?
This is a support locomotive. It's switched on but not actually pushing the train at this point. It's there as insurance in case of a breakdown of the steam locomotive on this very busy commuter mainline. It also drags or shunts the train out of terminus stations such as Norwich and at Liverpool Street for example where it hauls the train back to its home depot after the end of the tour. It also provides power for the electric train heating.
@@StuartAxe Thank you for the information. I remember some years ago one of the well known steam loco's went to the USA with their trains being bigger than ours how did they manage to run on their tracks as I assume their gauge is bigger than ours? sorry to be a pest but have always wondered.
@@ianmcnulty3279 both railroads in the UK and here in the US use Standard Gauge, which is 4’ 8 1/2”. British engines are smaller in overall size than our steamers due to something called loading gauge which is the maximum size a engine/car can be and still have clearance to travel on the network. On British metals, the GWR historically had the largest loading gauge due to their past with Brunel(7 foot) gauge, but it is still limiting. American railroads were far more lucky in this sense due to the fact that railroads grew alongside most of our industry and cities. Instead of building the railroad to what existed, we could build new things to the railroads, increasingly so as civilizations moved west. Best examples I can give of this are comparing the New York Central Niagara and the Southern Pacific GS-4. Both are fantastic engines, but the Niagara was slightly more handicapped by size due to having to fit inside older tunnels which aren’t as big as the ones the GS-4 can travel through since the GS-4 was meant to run along the US West Coast.
@@high_admiral5196 Thanks for the information have often wondered about that it's very interesting. take care stay safe thanks Ian
What off mean
That OFF is on an indicator that is often found on station platforms. The indicator provides various messages to platform staff and the person dispatching the train.
'OFF' means that the starting signal at the end of the 'down' or platform 2 line is 'off' or showing a green 'proceed' aspect. It is showing this message due to the fact the dispatcher will be unable to see the starting signal from his or her dispatch position.
A blank indicator would mean that the starting signal is at 'danger' or showing a red 'stop' aspect. 'CD' on the indicator would mean 'Close Doors' and is an instruction for platform staff to close the trains doors. 'RA' on the indicator is short for 'Right Away' and means the train is ready to depart.
I'm surprised trains like that didn't set more things on fire....or did they?
Not in the way you see here; that's just the glow of the fire in its proper place, the firebox, being reflected on the steam (more noticeable than usual because of the darkness). But when being really thrashed steam engines did tend to shoot burning lumps of coal out of the chimney, which did set lineside objects (mainly vegetation) on fire - its generally recognised that 'leaves on the line' was much less of a problem in steam days, since the trees got scorched back if they got too close.
That is just a reflection of the fire on the exhaust. They didn’t set fires back when because the embankments didn’t have much if any vegetation. The right of way men used to burn them in a controlled burn.
@@paulnicholson1906 When I was a laddie the 'standard' walk whenever we visited my granny in Musselburgh was to the East Coast Main Line nearby and I certainly remember localised patches of smouldering grass on the embankments there sometimes. I also remember a good going fire following a West Highland train passing through the steeply-graded cutting between Craigendoran and Helensburgh Upper on the West Highland line, and the excitement of a fire engine attending. What the p-way guys did probably varied according to local policy.
Embankment fires were quite common in the 1950s where I lived, opposite the line going north out of Wakefield Westgate.
@@dickhelling3529 In those days there were few ,if any trees , between the boundary and the cess.
No taillight on the trailing diesel?
It is there. You can see it flashing right the end of the clip as the locomotive goes into darkness as it clears the platform.
Its being pushed from behind by a diesel loco, what a cheat!
See reply above, from Stuart Axe to Adrian Burn, last week.
Judging by the single flashing red light on the rear I suspect the diesel wasn't even powered up, otherwise I would have thought it would be running with its own two red lights showing?
@@rogerbarton497 There's only one red tail light or FRED at the rear of trains in the UK. The locomotive is switched on. Please see pinned message at the top of the comments ;-)
Hurry hurry hurry
Replied and chuffed Thomas steaming thru the station pretending to be like Gordon
Now I see what the line from the song Dirty Old Town means
What a disgusting filthy, noisy, environmementally unfriendly, and user unfriendly thing that is. I am delighted that such an abomination is not in general use any more and it is a shame that they bring out to amuse people who are nostalgic about the past. It belongs in a museum or beter still, a scrapyard. Also the deisel locomotive. In the Netherlands, all trains including freight trains are electric and the electricity is generated by wind turbines. Stuff the past. Be glad it is gone. Look to the future and celebrate what has improved instead of being nostalgic bad things in the past that we have (thankfully) "lost". We have lost nothing.