Vintage railway film - Mishap - 1958

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  • @danw1374
    @danw1374 Рік тому +30

    You dont realise the level of responsibility signalmen had until you watch these old films, peoples lives were literally in their hands. A wonderful glimpse into the past. Bless them all.

    • @andrewbrown6786
      @andrewbrown6786 Рік тому +7

      Signallers are still just as responsible today - just things are done a bit differently to account for the tech.

  • @grahamrsparker
    @grahamrsparker 3 роки тому +154

    Is it just me or is anybody else fascinated by old trains?

    • @baggieshorts1406
      @baggieshorts1406 3 роки тому +9

      Nope not just you... we all wanted to be a train driver in the good old days.. I remember how, about 65 years ago, we used to sit on the benches at the station watching the trains go by..

    • @grahamrsparker
      @grahamrsparker 3 роки тому +2

      @@baggieshorts1406I love the thought of been a train driver...ah my favourite old film was ghost train by Arthur askey

    • @baggieshorts1406
      @baggieshorts1406 3 роки тому +1

      @@grahamrsparker ua-cam.com/video/mcaGaAv8v8I/v-deo.html link to ghost train... enjoy

    • @grahamrsparker
      @grahamrsparker 3 роки тому +1

      @@baggieshorts1406 thanks

    • @barbaraprest783
      @barbaraprest783 3 роки тому +1

      Wonderful things !!

  • @philnewton3096
    @philnewton3096 4 роки тому +135

    How refreshing for enjoyment and concentration -No background music !

    • @prg2812
      @prg2812 3 роки тому +8

      13:32 "They disposed of the injured and other passengers" LOL

    • @heathstjohn6775
      @heathstjohn6775 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks. Didn't know anybody else thought tne same.
      Also, no stupid slogans on 'clothes'; no imbecilic comments; no one trying to make everything they say 'funny'.

  • @mikeengland7468
    @mikeengland7468 3 роки тому +153

    People in the 1950s and other steam decades didn't understand the complexity of the railways, and railwaymen didn't receive the respect they deserved. I think this documentry goes some way in righting this wrong, in illustrating the intelligence, dedication and professionalism of these men.

    • @charleslittleba
      @charleslittleba 3 роки тому +7

      Not all countrys in the 50’s were steam

    • @charleslittleba
      @charleslittleba 3 роки тому +2

      Some where diesel or electric expirementals

    • @andyxox4168
      @andyxox4168 3 роки тому +11

      Really, was everyone except railway workers stupid prior to 1st January 1960?
      (Maybe you should consider today’s world and what people actually know about it, I suspect the general level of knowledge was greater in the 50’s than today)

    • @derekheeps1244
      @derekheeps1244 3 роки тому +1

      @@andyxox4168 given that the sixties started on 1st January 1961 you may wish to revise that statement . The year 1960 was the last year of the 1950s ( there are ten years in a decade )

    • @steamfire
      @steamfire 2 роки тому +1

      Please cite your sources for people's understanding and respect.

  • @taurusguy8983
    @taurusguy8983 3 роки тому +90

    How articulate and organized, old British way , fabulous.

    • @drawingboard82
      @drawingboard82 3 роки тому +4

      "Everything is in order, of course"

    • @generalsquirrel9548
      @generalsquirrel9548 3 роки тому +3

      They no longer can say they have the finest railway system. Sad they ruines it after the war

  • @johnboughton7451
    @johnboughton7451 3 роки тому +52

    Tea! It’s what our nation runs on
    if you’re are cold, tea will warm you;
    If you are too heated, it will cool you;
    If you are depressed, it will cheer you;
    If you are exhausted, it will calm you.
    William Gladstone

    • @IndBoy2k
      @IndBoy2k 3 роки тому

      Really dude? I thought it's just a joke.

    • @TerryMcGearyScotland
      @TerryMcGearyScotland 3 роки тому +1

      Brilliant, thank you. One to commit to memory. :-) I have commented, above, that you know it's going to be fine when a lady brings in the tea.

    • @fredfarnackle5455
      @fredfarnackle5455 3 роки тому +1

      I always tell my wife, who is a lot younger than me and only drinks coffee, that tea was how we won the War!! I well remember that a good strong cuppa was the answer to everything.

    • @TerryMcGearyScotland
      @TerryMcGearyScotland 3 роки тому +1

      @@fredfarnackle5455 Along with tea are a few minutes of relaxation and contemplation.:-)

    • @andyxox4168
      @andyxox4168 3 роки тому +1

      In the 70’s diversity meant having the occasional coffee instead of tea, happy days … 🤔

  • @hugh007
    @hugh007 3 роки тому +5

    Absolutely riveting. No computers, radios or mobile phones. No one had better fall asleep.
    Thanks.

    • @Tranmere59
      @Tranmere59 Рік тому +1

      With fountain pen for signalman's log!

  • @bitsnpieces11
    @bitsnpieces11 3 роки тому +10

    Lets see: The bosses aren't sitting back expecting someone else to do the work, the workers aren't sitting back waiting for a boss to give them an order. All are doing the work assigned to them and they are trained for. Result, really fine and rapid execution of the job. And every single person takes pride in doing their job.

    • @richmanwisco
      @richmanwisco 3 роки тому

      You understand this was a scripted drill and didn't happen in real life, yes?

    • @bitsnpieces11
      @bitsnpieces11 3 роки тому +1

      @@richmanwisco "Not in real life" ??? I have had what I described happen with me involved a number of times. That is bosses just sitting around and workers waiting for orders, really messes things up. I have also been in a situation where everybody does what they are supposed to do when they are supposed to do it and the way they are supposed to do it. Messed up happens a good bit in gov. jobs and working well happens a lot in civilian jobs where getting it right earns you a good paycheck. The gov. jobs pay you regardless if you please and protect higher ups. Oh, I have worked both situations.

    • @grahamsmith-thompson6827
      @grahamsmith-thompson6827 3 роки тому +3

      @@richmanwisco You don't seem to understand that this DID happen in real life. This was a training film for railway employees to understand what procedures were carried out in the case of a train failing to pass through the block section between signal boxes under mechanical (semaphore) signaling. All the actions depicted are laid down in the Railway Rule Book, which is a Legal Document. GST, Driver (retd) OOC 81A.

    • @andrewbrown6786
      @andrewbrown6786 Рік тому

      @@richmanwisco it may have been a scripted exercise, but I’ve been involved in such incidents in various ways to know the only part that doesn’t happen now is the presence of a tea lady 👍

  • @kaushlendra2002
    @kaushlendra2002 4 роки тому +28

    I am proud to see such a responsible team of railway men.we should learn from them that with such a limited resources the accident was attended in least time delay.thanks
    Kaushlendra
    Joint General Manager/Electrical
    Ircon International Limited
    New Delhi

  • @hectorkidds9840
    @hectorkidds9840 Рік тому +5

    Apart from a change to train detection (for most of the network) rather than time based signalling, and the complications of different train operating companies, this is still very much how it is done. A brilliant film.

  • @neilfurby555
    @neilfurby555 Рік тому +6

    Superb and great quality for its age. The little animation explaining the problem is quite magical!

  • @josecintron2040
    @josecintron2040 4 роки тому +52

    As a retired Railroad Engineer, for Norfolk-Southern Railroad, it is amazing to see how Railroads we’re run in the past, thank you for letting see how Railroad were run in the past.

    • @Hambone571
      @Hambone571 4 роки тому

      Retired “engineer” as in driver or designer/builder? Curious.

    • @KuptisOriginal
      @KuptisOriginal 4 роки тому +3

      @@Hambone571 he said "Railroad engineer" which means driver.

    • @boggy7665
      @boggy7665 4 роки тому +1

      @@KuptisOriginal US usage: 'engineer' = driver

    • @KuptisOriginal
      @KuptisOriginal 4 роки тому

      @@boggy7665 That's what I said.

    • @mickcarson8504
      @mickcarson8504 4 роки тому +2

      Railroads? Is this in the US? In Europe they're called railways, not railroads. Where the heck is a road under the railways? Roads are for cars, rails are for trains.

  • @josephblansjaar5871
    @josephblansjaar5871 3 роки тому +7

    It reminds me of the many instructional films I watched in my early naval training in the 60;s. I'm convinced the voice-over was the some person and he must have been kept very busy making hundreds of these films. Delightful!

  • @johnschlesinger2009
    @johnschlesinger2009 4 роки тому +63

    An excellent film: it is very enjoyable to see the old steamers in action.

    • @hulksterish
      @hulksterish 4 роки тому

      Before the beaching acts

    • @drabsbrad
      @drabsbrad 4 роки тому

      Also the engines as well. LOL

  • @terryandannie
    @terryandannie 4 роки тому +108

    I grew up in the 60s England
    I remember finding a box of those detonators. I was 10 at the time, we used to throw them at trees and walls. Wow the bang was deafening.
    They were very sensitive to shock, because they contained fulminate of mercury, Happy days.

    • @sonnyburnett8725
      @sonnyburnett8725 4 роки тому +9

      You must have been one popular guy while they lasted. I’d have really liked watching you set those off.

    • @Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn
      @Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn 4 роки тому +9

      Remember those boxes of colorful “cracker balls”? You’d throw them hard down on the sidewalk and they’d make a small but pretty “loud for the size” explosion. They were especially loud if you threw them down on the hard cement or tiled floor of a hallway at school, but that might get you expelled for a few days if caught.
      They were also great inside concrete stairwells, especially like those emergency stairwells in buildings like hospitals and hotels. About anywhere you could get a big echo.
      Since you weren’t lighting a 🔥match or dealing with fire like firecrackers or M80s it was more likely a younger age boy could get his hands on them than just about any other decent type of fireworks a cautious parent might allow.
      But leave it to the imagination of a kid and his friends with even limited access to black powder (or any reasonable facsimile 😎) and they were bound to come up with clever and ingenious ways of blowing stuff up 💣 or making noise or explosions just about anywhere they could find an audience or surprise or scare someone (even it was just themselves.)
      So finding an entire box of detonators💥like @terry wagg at age 10 and his friends must have been the equivalent of an old gold prospector striking the Mother Lode after decades of scratching out an existence! Can you imagine how exciting that would have been for you and your friends if that had been YOU at ten years of age? I bet the adrenaline rushes had you guys over the moon for months! If my name ain’t TNT! 🧨

    • @sonnyburnett8725
      @sonnyburnett8725 4 роки тому +6

      @@Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn Excellent way to describe how we young men “boys” would handle the situation when gifted with such wonderful noise makers. Hope no one lost any fingers.

    • @Surfliner450
      @Surfliner450 4 роки тому +2

      sounds fun

    • @bigbern6366
      @bigbern6366 3 роки тому +10

      Also grew up in England in the 50’s in Wigan. Lived near tracks and warehouse distribution hub. Got to ride in steam engine and caboose car which still had homing pigeon cages. Loved playing on the rail sidings. Parents never worried about us getting hurt. Have lived in the U.S. since 1960. Great memories as a kid. I miss Smarties, Flake bars and meat pies!

  • @tonyneilson1652
    @tonyneilson1652 3 роки тому +13

    I have long had an interest in process and systems.
    This documentary details the series of rules in place at a point in time mandating how to respond to an incident on British rail.
    For interested parties it illustrates the evolution of a complex set of responses and actions which combine to ensure the prevention of further mishaps, address the safety of all parties directly involved in the mishap, resolve all aspects of the incident and implement work around measures to maintain service.
    There are many moving parts to this process and overall reflect that a great deal of thought and experience has been invested in reaching this stage in the evolution of the response process.

  • @62bMoose
    @62bMoose 4 роки тому +345

    Note the rapid deployment of the emergency tea lady.

    • @62bMoose
      @62bMoose 4 роки тому +36

      @reverse thrust I am now informed: Back in the day, the Police would have notified the WRVS, who would immediately deploy the tea urn. The second shift would arrive with sandwiches and cake.
      ... so the crumpets are on their way.

    • @AndreasDelleske
      @AndreasDelleske 4 роки тому +24

      In France they would be using red wine and a cigarette.

    • @starlight122012
      @starlight122012 4 роки тому +8

      @ the younger ones won't take things seriously or lazier today as they prefer arguing with you using an off peak ticket on a service leaving the station 60 seconds before off peak begins.

    • @oakwood6922
      @oakwood6922 4 роки тому +16

      A very British reaction to any emergency.... ;-)

    • @dennischallinor8497
      @dennischallinor8497 4 роки тому +22

      The English ALWAYS have their priorities correctly aligned!!! Tea anyone?

  • @inspireaspire278
    @inspireaspire278 3 роки тому +28

    My compliments for the unsung efficient staff.

    • @sianwarwick633
      @sianwarwick633 2 місяці тому

      The fact that there are enough staff and resources to deal with the signalling, repair and rail replacement is exceptional

  • @jacquelineodwyer7688
    @jacquelineodwyer7688 3 роки тому +12

    This is a good video showing up on UA-cam. My ancestors worked on the railway from wicklow to clontarf. Great grandparents on maternal side of my family. Year 1900-backwards to late Victorian times. Then our current relatives from the 1940-1950s had a go also. My son ended up a trainspotter from the nineties to the second millennium. He is thirty one years old. He went to every exhibitions display of railways three times a year.

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 4 місяці тому

      I love the names of small UK places. You could just make up some funny sounding one and I'd be like "mmhmm yup Dinglesham to Buttfordshire"

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 4 роки тому +16

    Having procedures well-known to staff is essential in situations where there is the potential for injury and/or loss of life.
    What lovely footage of steam locomotives! Apparently this film was made in 1958. That would have been quite near to the last days of the steam engine.
    I was born in 1952. In my childhood, I saw only one steam locomotive. To this day, I can remember clearly the sound of the steam whistle.

    • @briantitchener4829
      @briantitchener4829 3 роки тому +2

      August 1968 was the official complete end of steam railways in Britain.

  • @stuarthall6631
    @stuarthall6631 4 роки тому +37

    Very watchable and informative. Thank you as ever! Actually, I have sent a link to this video to the 82045 Group who are busily building the next engine of the extinct Riddles 3MT class which stars nicely at 11:57 with 82007.

  • @1929modelagirl
    @1929modelagirl 4 роки тому +79

    Living on the Great Plains (American West) the sheer distances between stations or towns would have made anything like this well-ordered British response near impossible.
    The calm (most of the time) and trained discipline where all know and perform their respective jobs is (unfortunately) a thing of the past.
    Great film!

    • @andyelliott8027
      @andyelliott8027 3 роки тому +4

      11 of the 50 American states are bigger than the entire UK.

    • @mdteletom1288
      @mdteletom1288 3 роки тому +4

      I think you are confusing signalling stations with passenger stations or freight depots. As the film indicates the signal station operates independently from the passenger station. They are small block houses usually on a platform with a short stairway leading up. I know on Amtrak's Northeast Corridor abandoned ones still stand every few miles, some near and some not so near a passenger station. I'm sure on some of the older lines out West like the Santa Fe line these block houses still exist as well.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 роки тому +4

      that distance is lost on 99.9999% of Europeans who can’t fathom how far places are from one another let alone how long a train ride can be to get between major cities outside the east coast

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 роки тому +1

      @@andyelliott8027the whole of the UK takes up just New York and Pennsylvania…England alone is just about equal to New York in area

    • @alan2804
      @alan2804 3 роки тому +1

      @@andyelliott8027 the UK isn’t a country…its a political union between 4 countries.

  • @JLfromEdinburgh1951
    @JLfromEdinburgh1951 4 роки тому +20

    When I was training to be a guard in the early seventies, we were shown that film as part of our training. It was fascinating to see it again. I was a bit horrified to realise how much of that I've forgotten. I also (out of interest) took a course in the rules and signalling regulations, around that time, so I'm pretty sure I knew most of it back then. But then I left the railway service in 1982 to go to university. So I suppose I've had 38 years to forget it all.
    By my time diesels had replaced steam locomotives, and, because of faster train speeds, the protection distance had been increased from three quarters of a mile to a full mile. Moreover the three detonators had to be placed 20 yards apart (previously it had been 10) so that, even on a fast moving train, the driver would hear three distinct cracks. But apart from that, most of what was shown in the film was still relevant, especially on lines with traditional signalling, using the "Absolute Block" system. Which I suppose is why we were shown the film. By the way, I never had to deal with a main line accident during my railway career -- only a few minor mishaps in goods sidings.
    I wonder how such an accident would be handled today, when freight trains (and some passenger trains) don't even carry a guard. I believe that radios are now considered reliable enough for safety critical messages. They weren't in my day. And it does concern me that, when the driver is the only person on the train, he could be injured or even killed in an accident, and therefore be quite unable to do anything about protecting the train. If any modern railway staff are reading this, I'd be fascinated to hear how such an incident would be dealt with nowadays. Are train crews still required to carry detonators?

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому +5

      Agreed - that single manning has been dreamed up by penny-pinching accountants and 'business administrators' who couldn't give a damn about safety.

    • @ludvigericson6930
      @ludvigericson6930 2 роки тому +1

      Modern railways use automation instead. I don’t think having a guy running up the track is more reliable than that.

    • @sachiel4736
      @sachiel4736 2 роки тому +11

      Groundstaff here. Modern trains are tracked through GPS through to the boxes, the electro signalling circuits, and along with the GSMR system build into locomotives giving communication with the signaller means that the driver can communicate effectively when something goes wrong, provided they are uninjured. They also have their mobile phone either personal or work provided as a backup communication device, but official lines are preferred as they are recorded on call now as a backup for later investigations.
      If the train does get stuck in section and there is no communications, the signaller will put a block on the line, and the passing line as a precaution, until Network Rail and groundsman from the operating company can attend on scene and inform them otherwise.
      Detonators are still used and placed 1 mile from the afflicted train and at 30 yards apart on all approaches to the incident, and signal telephones are then used to communicate details as you can always reference yourself from said telephone "Sierra four two, Up Fast" or "Charlie eight one, Goods Reception" for example.
      The box will then put a temporary block on lines surrounding that signal, and await instructions from Network Rail authorities.

    • @David-m6m6m
      @David-m6m6m Місяць тому

      As. Former fireman I remember the rule book instructions for protecting trains on running lines And signing the register in signal box for rule 55 which were carried out if you were stood at signal for a long period and had to see the signalman place a loop over the signal lever as to remind him you were at that signal and not. Allow any train in that section

  • @allenhonaker4107
    @allenhonaker4107 4 роки тому +41

    What an interesting film thank you

  • @Hambone571
    @Hambone571 4 роки тому +247

    The good days when “people” did their jobs with care, respect, and pride.

    • @cpp170
      @cpp170 4 роки тому +16

      And when people wore proper hats and coats!

    • @timhancock6626
      @timhancock6626 4 роки тому +19

      Indeed, when ten men could do the job of one.

    • @niwty
      @niwty 4 роки тому +14

      When health and safety didn’t have a price!

    • @cjones3710
      @cjones3710 4 роки тому +5

      Men still do tthier jobs. That is part of a man's responsibility to himself his family, his nation. And God.
      We put away childish things as we pass a certain age.

    • @TitiniusAndronicus
      @TitiniusAndronicus 4 роки тому +9

      Not doing work with care and pride and respect eats away at the human spirit and is a large contributing factor of depression.

  • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
    @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 4 роки тому +62

    2020: Signal control centre is over 100 miles away and have no clue as to the location. No staff at the unmanned stations to raise any help. Train is also DOO so the driver is left to do it all himself, but be quick as the delay minutes are mounting up.....come back 1958, all is forgiven....

    • @MaxPulse1
      @MaxPulse1 4 роки тому +9

      Today fortunately nothing is planned to go wrong, go wrong, go wrong

    • @olly5764
      @olly5764 4 роки тому +3

      Of course, the signal post Telephone is much closer, and both ends of the train can be protected in one phone call

    • @chrishoggett1375
      @chrishoggett1375 4 роки тому +12

      Urgh, tell me about it, same here in Belgium. Got pulled onto an occupied line in a yard not long ago with my train. It took the best part of two hours for somebody to come as there was also an incident at the other side of the district and nobody was available. All that time to give me permission to set back a few yards to clear the points. Ridiculous. And all that time I was blocking a level crossing to a factory, leaving the night shift stuck at one side and the morning shift on the other side of my train. Kept my doors shut and my head down ...

    • @williamstrassner7609
      @williamstrassner7609 4 роки тому +2

      sad but so true.....

    • @simonjames3845
      @simonjames3845 4 роки тому +3

      In 2020 GPS tells the ROC and Control where the train is. The Driver is also in direct contact with the ROC and/or Control at all times via CSR.

  • @natehill8069
    @natehill8069 4 роки тому +173

    Who wrote these procedures, the guy who owns the detonator company?

    • @mottthehoople693
      @mottthehoople693 4 роки тому +12

      safety is paramount...dets are a tiny cost

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 4 роки тому +13

      @@nativeafroeurasian Compared to the time and cost in coal it needs to stop the train and picking them up? Dirt cheap. Compared to damage or injury? Don't even ask.

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 4 роки тому +5

      No, people who understand penny-wise but pound-foolish is a great way to ruin a business.

    • @18thebat
      @18thebat 4 роки тому +1

      Dont post such STUPID comments.

    • @Dave5843-d9m
      @Dave5843-d9m 4 роки тому

      To be fair its that sort of penny pinching that ruined the railways leading to the Beeching hatchet job.

  • @johnrichardson7354
    @johnrichardson7354 4 місяці тому +1

    from IMCDB:" filmed on a section of the old MSWJR line between Cheltenham and Andoversford Junction, which closed in 1962 and was removed by the mid-1960s. In the film, the made-up station name 'Aybury' was in fact Cheltenham Leckhampton, and 'Beaton' is Andoversford Jnc. Most of the film was shot at or between these two locations but Cheltenham Malvern Rd engine shed features, (the shed still surviving as part of Travis Perkins), Hatherley Loop, and most notably, extremely rare brief exterior shots of both Gloucester stations - Eastgate, now an Asda and Central, rebuilt in 1976"

  • @jinksonyou
    @jinksonyou 4 роки тому +12

    I love watching these old safety video's! Cheers from Canada eh!

  • @rubythesnek8472
    @rubythesnek8472 4 роки тому +4

    You have my thanks! It's fascinating to see all the working parts for a single accident, especially back in the day.

  • @SumeetRaneAdvocate
    @SumeetRaneAdvocate 3 роки тому +5

    Railway is serious business, so improvement of technology has reduced the time in communication, repairs, signaling, but still utmost care is taken in this kind of situation by railway official across the world. Conclusion: Still railway workmen do their job with care.

  • @gbentley8176
    @gbentley8176 3 роки тому +2

    My younger brother was just 2 days old that June. Seems like yesterday. One never forgets steam train journeys.

  • @grahambunton377
    @grahambunton377 4 роки тому +25

    A very good video but for one mistake.
    Where was the smarmy lawyer signing up clients to sue the railway for their injuries ????

    • @JanPeterson
      @JanPeterson 4 роки тому +13

      It wasn't in the States, old bean.

    • @michaelmcgregor7374
      @michaelmcgregor7374 3 роки тому

      It does seem that America has become law-suit happy, or to put it another way... get rich quick!!!

  • @inspireaspire278
    @inspireaspire278 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing such a unique video. Love Brittany for its contribution in building such infrastructure and systems.

  • @PharaohDeathMask
    @PharaohDeathMask 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you for uploading this film. It was really great to watch.

  • @beachcomberbob3496
    @beachcomberbob3496 3 роки тому +4

    I remember someone coming to our primary school to warn us of the dangers of those detonators, some of which had gone missing locally.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому +1

      Yep - a boy in my primary school stole one, and set it off in the playground by hitting it with a stone. He got a scar on his eyebrow which would last the rest of his life, and was damn lucky that the chunk of steel missed his eye.

  • @downhilltwofour0082
    @downhilltwofour0082 4 роки тому +7

    Great video! I love the Tea lady too. I'll visit your channel to see what else is there and I may subscribe! I just subscribed. We in America have very little passenger service left. The Airline, automobile manufacturers, over-the-road freight haulers and oil companies killed it years ago.

  • @robertwatt9012
    @robertwatt9012 3 роки тому +2

    Many thanks - thoroughly enjoyed being reminded of correct procedures, and care by/for all concerned.

  • @mikehazelwood6106
    @mikehazelwood6106 3 роки тому +5

    It may seem like a lot of detail and BS to get the job done, but this system was devised over many years, to provide maximum safety for life, limb and property!

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, indeed - and it WORKED!

  • @fmartino100
    @fmartino100 4 роки тому +33

    I don't know about you, but I'm exhausted.

  • @michaelodonoghue7464
    @michaelodonoghue7464 4 роки тому +11

    My Father was a Guard with British Rail before 1967, when We came to Australia and he joined the South Australian Railways. His Detonators were a pre shaped Clip which was simply pushed down onto the Rail.

  • @peltel2222
    @peltel2222 3 роки тому +5

    I only wish things were done like this still today. People cared about their job. There was a general feeling of pride and confidence in the employees work. When can we return to this type of existence? I feel like our best times are behind us. At least we can use these videos as a reminder of what we used to be capable of. Nowadays it’s just Leach as much as you can from the system. Get your check and get out. Who cares about anything going wrong. Just get out of there as quick as possible. If something goes wrong who cares. Pride… What the hell is that.

  • @evelynjiles29
    @evelynjiles29 4 роки тому +15

    Very Prepared for anything, that makes them trustworthy- this film also explains what to do if faces in this situation which is very informative. If the Crew were knocked out then wouldn’t the guard have to do it alone

    • @WatchesTrainsAndRockets
      @WatchesTrainsAndRockets 4 роки тому

      The idea is that warning trains on the opposing line is the higher priority. The signals back then were manual and there was nothing to detect that the opposing line was fouled by the wreck and automatically set the signal to danger.

    • @victorcroasdale4992
      @victorcroasdale4992 4 роки тому

      That's why the guard went to the engine to check that the fireman was able to protect the opposite line. If the fireman had be unable to do that, then the guard would have gone forward to protect the opposite line as that is a higher priority than protecting the rear. (Rule 217)
      Had the engine still been on the rails then Rule 218 would require him to detach and drive forward to the next signal box or if that is more than 3/4 mile he should drop off the fireman at 3/4 mile , the fireman would then place three detonators on the opposing line, the engine (without fireman) would then proceed to the box. In this case, the loco was off the rails and the fireman had to walk.

  • @sianwarwick633
    @sianwarwick633 2 місяці тому

    Good to see that there were enough staff to deal with the signalling, repair, and replacement of service while the breakdown was fixed.

  • @dchawk81
    @dchawk81 4 роки тому +14

    Sir Topham Hatt was cross. You have caused confusion and delay.

  • @charlieinsingapore
    @charlieinsingapore 2 роки тому +1

    Those exact procedures were still in use when I joined New Zealand Railways almost 25 years later, before the rail was gutted and privatised. Good memories.

  • @robharding4028
    @robharding4028 3 роки тому +5

    Fascinating insight into the workings and the organisation involved with such a well oiled machine as the British rail transport system, It seems so calm and tranquil, that It looks much better back then, than it does now, in the high tech 2020's.

  • @rishi-eq8kx
    @rishi-eq8kx 3 роки тому +2

    Very professional video.... thoughtful and generous informative. Thanks .

  • @18thebat
    @18thebat 4 роки тому +16

    I was a fireman on the stem engines in those days. I DO REMEMBER IT BEING ON THE B.B.C NEWS..... All the correct emergency procedures were quite correctly carried out by the Railway staff,. Ron Syms. Weston-s-Mare..

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому +1

      This is a training film, not an actual incident.

    • @sparkrace
      @sparkrace 3 роки тому +1

      Takes me down memory lane to when my dad was a guard on the old branch line from Highbridge then when that closed he was put in parcels at Bridgwater.
      Brings it all back, the smell of the trains, the uniqueness of the buildings.
      My dad was Henry John Alford also known as jack, he left the railway through illness and didn't quite get to retire.

  • @dannygroom3327
    @dannygroom3327 4 роки тому +52

    As long as everyone gets a nice cup of tea.

    • @jimmyduncan7650
      @jimmyduncan7650 4 роки тому +9

      Have to maintain civility old chap.

    • @hulksterish
      @hulksterish 4 роки тому +12

      The British way

    • @jeffkwells2003
      @jeffkwells2003 4 роки тому +5

      @D Lopez No, fraid not. 'A spot of tea' is a meal. This is definitely 'a nice cup of tea' - with a biscuit of course!

    • @janicesullivan8942
      @janicesullivan8942 4 роки тому +3

      @@jeffkwells2003
      It MUST be accompanied by a biscuit, anything less would be uncivilized.

    • @gregorysanderson2000
      @gregorysanderson2000 3 роки тому

      Eee by gum put the kettle on and everything will be fine!!

  • @davidfox3258
    @davidfox3258 4 роки тому +5

    It was absolutely superb. I turned off Come Strictly dancing to watch it.

    • @rockabyebaby6111
      @rockabyebaby6111 3 роки тому +1

      Nice one lol 😆 🤣 😄

    • @jonmac3995
      @jonmac3995 3 роки тому +2

      I'd turn that off to watch the fridge defrost :-)

  • @jimmyb1559
    @jimmyb1559 Місяць тому

    As a person always fascinated by trains it was interesting to see the detailed responsibilities of the workers. Everyone had to do their job accurately to achieve a positive result. If only every business was run as efficiently. Thank you for an enlightening video.

  • @oliverrodrigues676
    @oliverrodrigues676 3 роки тому +4

    Great respect to the staff members with sheer intelligence & problem solving approach in those days.

  • @GAZBLIN
    @GAZBLIN 3 роки тому +1

    I can't understand 'dislikes' - this is a past-era information reel - it is what it is. I've been captivated by them.

  • @GLICKMIRE
    @GLICKMIRE 4 роки тому +5

    Growing up next to Seaboard in North Carolina in the 1950s, a treasure chest was finding fusees. The main entertainment value was in finding metal objects to melt with them. Several years ago, while working as a crew van driver, I was showing railroad employees how to make use of a wet fusee.

  • @emsnewssupkis6453
    @emsnewssupkis6453 7 місяців тому

    70 years ago, our father showed us how to do the 'track is clear' hand signal and we kids would line up and do this and always, the engineers would blow their whistle and make the 'arm's up' gesture while smiling! Recently, I did this without thinking when standing in front of a train in Upstate NY and the engineer...returned the 'all's clear' signal back to me while smiling!

  • @tomlee9534
    @tomlee9534 4 роки тому +13

    I notice it’s all Standard locos and Mk1 stock, but the guard had a GWR pocket watch! Excellent film, I look forward to these showing up. Thank you.

    • @lewisner
      @lewisner 4 роки тому +1

      I started working at Kings Cross in 1983 and I was given an LNER pocket watch. It didn't work so I chucked it in my bag and two years later I found it had been smashed to pieces by the detonator tin pounding it every time I chucked my bag on the floor.

    • @lennyhendricks4628
      @lennyhendricks4628 4 роки тому +3

      @Pissed off at society go spiritual -- the detonators are strong enough to be heard over the roar of the engine but not strong enough to do any damage. They are a warning device.

    • @mottthehoople693
      @mottthehoople693 4 роки тому

      @@lewisner fuck your rough with your gear.....

  • @kaibroeking9968
    @kaibroeking9968 Рік тому +1

    4:32 being quite a verteran of these British Transport Films, I of course noticed that the rail joints just ahead of the fireman are likely in need of either shims or a maintenance fish plate. ;-)

  • @MarkAtkin
    @MarkAtkin 3 роки тому +19

    12:33 "Now all the arrangements are in hand." Lady walks in with a tray of tea cups.

    • @andystoker6961
      @andystoker6961 3 роки тому +1

      .... and a hat!

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 3 роки тому

      Bet you she's been building up to that event all her lifewtih regular attendance at the CWA......her chance to shine for 15 minutes with tea and sandwiches....

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому

      @@xr6lad - well, if so, she's probably achieved more in that 15 minutes than you've done since you were born . . .

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому

      I take it you don't know that a warm sugary drink is good for shock?

  • @trellenrussey8432
    @trellenrussey8432 3 роки тому +3

    Pretty safe and efficient way to handle the problem!

  • @philipmcdonagh1094
    @philipmcdonagh1094 4 роки тому +5

    I could and am watching this all day thanks

  • @TicoStudio90
    @TicoStudio90 Рік тому

    This is incredible stuff. Accident procedures so thorough and disciplined.
    Fascinating 👌👍😊

  • @kevinklei3005
    @kevinklei3005 4 роки тому +4

    All very well but did they fix the cause of the problem ???? . Cheers from the land down under

  • @SPotter505
    @SPotter505 3 роки тому +1

    My father, Donald Potter, was a Railway Signalman around the time this short film was made. He was stationed in the Dagenham area, in a box similar to the one in the film.

  • @witsendisup
    @witsendisup 4 роки тому +5

    I'm pretty sure that was Donald Pleasence driving the held freight train.

  • @lorrainedimmock4096
    @lorrainedimmock4096 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like it's filmed on the western and GC,?? Judging by the motive power...?..Station is Dymock, Gloucester Ledbury branch ?? and the only film I know of, on the station.if it was,..very well filmed and a great deal of detail of operations, well done BR and the BTF, for these historic views....

  • @ChangesOneTim
    @ChangesOneTim 3 роки тому +5

    Brilliant film. This procedure held good until only about 25yr ago. Centralised signalling control, cab-to-shore radio, far fewer staff on the front line, and not least today's risk-averse litigious world, forced the changes.

  • @kellys.6047
    @kellys.6047 12 днів тому

    Great video!
    I love these old railway videos.🚂❣️🚂

  • @williamcharles9480
    @williamcharles9480 4 роки тому +21

    That sure was a lot of walking for that one older fellow.

    • @ronhaworth5808
      @ronhaworth5808 3 роки тому +3

      Only months after he died from a heart attack the British discovered the two-way radio.

    • @MrTarmonbarry
      @MrTarmonbarry 3 роки тому

      They were a lot fitter back then

  • @julianopificius6910
    @julianopificius6910 3 роки тому +1

    I would have been two and a half years old in the summer of '58, moved to Cheltenham about five years later, and spent various sections of my young life there, till coming to the 'States in January '83. I wasn't out at Leckhampton - that was a bit too far to walk from Hester's Way, where I lived, but I spent many hours train spotting at the Alstone Lane crossing, back when there was a signalman. There were the old double swing gates at that time - manually cranked by the signal man by means of a big wheel up in the signal box.
    How things have changed.

  • @TheCondoInRedondo
    @TheCondoInRedondo 4 роки тому +20

    If only Amtrak's Northeast Corridor was so regimented. We're still waiting for implementation of full safety automation.... sixty years after this film was produced!

    • @starlight122012
      @starlight122012 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @starlight122012
      @starlight122012 4 роки тому +6

      @PissedOffProle if only those 6 Trillion dollars could have been spent on public transportation network and a public health care system and even help families and homelessness across the country.

    • @janicesullivan8942
      @janicesullivan8942 4 роки тому

      @@starlight122012
      If you allow homelessness, you get more of it. Look at the results of Seattle, LA, NYC, Portland, Chicago, and SF, all run by Democrats for generations.

    • @starlight122012
      @starlight122012 4 роки тому +1

      @@janicesullivan8942 don't think they have much choice tbh. They would rather spend money on other crap and the federal govt would rather spend Trillions on a military rather than on public services and healthcare in the US. Instead of going around the world trying to fix other countries whom didn't ask for any help the American way, maybe sort out the problems back home first. Regardless of who runs the state/city, homelessness, healthcare is a national issue not a purely a state one, well thats my 2 cents worth

    • @markb8556
      @markb8556 4 роки тому

      But PTC is supposed to fix everything! It NEVER goes wrong :/

  • @richardhartley7094
    @richardhartley7094 17 годин тому

    Fabulous I wonder what this area of line looks like today

  • @richardmaxwell5335
    @richardmaxwell5335 3 роки тому +16

    Imagine nowadays the detonators would be stolen then found in a bomb somewhere in London.!
    I remember as a kid these boxs, people wearing nice clothes, opening doors , polite manners...and we the old folk get blamed for everything going on!

    • @atraindriver
      @atraindriver 3 роки тому +1

      Given that they're still in use on the railway today and we don't hear news reports about misuse, I doubt they're being stolen and put into anything anywhere.

    • @2760ade
      @2760ade 3 роки тому

      @@atraindriver They really still use detonators? I am absolutely amazed! Surely with 21st Century communication technology, they can't be necessary?

    • @mmw4990
      @mmw4990 3 роки тому +1

      “Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.” - Socrates. You'd think this opinion would get boring but it's still going after 2500 years...

  • @Nick-wm5xx
    @Nick-wm5xx 7 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed watching this. My grandad was a signalman in a 174 lever signal box, one of many but his favourite. This would be in the 1940’s and 50’s. 🙏🏻

  • @robfinch1522
    @robfinch1522 Рік тому +3

    No matter how bad the incident the old British cup of tea will put it right 🙂

  • @-yeme-
    @-yeme- 2 роки тому +3

    14:11 Here we see the most vital element of response to any accident or emergency in England. Tea must be supplied to all involved as soon as is possible and practical.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 4 місяці тому

      Also at 12:35.
      It's true though. I remember a power outage at a (Dutch) military base when I served my conscription there. Emergency generators kicked in and the essential equipment kept functioning, and we continued work. Until we found out that the coffee machines weren't hooked up to the essential power bus... things broke down very quickly after that.

  • @sarahstrong7174
    @sarahstrong7174 4 роки тому +20

    The injured look far too cheerful. Did they put brandy in that tea?

    • @billcobbett9259
      @billcobbett9259 4 роки тому

      And they all had comedy head bandages.

    • @sarahstrong7174
      @sarahstrong7174 4 роки тому

      @@billcobbett9259 I expect they are kept in a special box ready for practice accidents, with party hats & blowers in case of serious emergencies (in case they get too serious).

    • @sarahstrong7174
      @sarahstrong7174 4 роки тому

      Bit worried about the "making it easier to dispose of casualties", surely they should send them to hospital, rather than 'disposing' of them?

  • @barrycracknell2944
    @barrycracknell2944 3 роки тому +2

    Great old film. Thanks for posting.

  • @railsedge5746
    @railsedge5746 3 роки тому +4

    That's the most excitement I've had since in lockdown.!!🥱

  • @keith6400
    @keith6400 4 роки тому +19

    12:34 Emergency Tea Lady arrives, At 14:11 Tea Lady starts the Tea Service.

    • @Dazzzlah
      @Dazzzlah 4 роки тому +2

      It may be Mrs Doyles mother.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 4 роки тому +3

      Tea is like a tourniquet over there.

    • @markb8556
      @markb8556 4 роки тому +1

      @@dchawk81 And biscuits

    • @annbell6453
      @annbell6453 4 роки тому +1

      Well, she has to round up all those tea mugs, and wash them first. If she only knew that styrofoam cups would later be invented to make getting all that tea ready so much easier!

    • @davidbumford806
      @davidbumford806 3 роки тому +3

      Its not proper a British mishap without tea.

  • @MaxPulse1
    @MaxPulse1 4 роки тому +14

    The fireman had the cleanest hands I've ever seen!

    • @stephendines1936
      @stephendines1936 3 роки тому +4

      He washed the coal before handling it.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 3 роки тому

      …everyone just happened to be in their sunday finest, even when working in a job where they’d be covered in sweat and grime? yeah…not badly staged at all

  • @mikego18753
    @mikego18753 2 роки тому

    I worked at BR,it was a similar procedure for getting a new biro.lol.Great vid.
    Thanks.

  • @chascarpenter5006
    @chascarpenter5006 4 роки тому +9

    30th June 1957, wonder where they shot this, lovely old film, Thank you for the upload.

    • @roytabberer7427
      @roytabberer7427 4 роки тому +13

      It is in the piece above. -
      This was filmed on a section of the old MSWJR line between Cheltenham and Andoversford Junction. In the film, the made up station name 'Aybury' was in fact Cheltenham Leckhampton and 'Beaton' is Andoversford Junction.

    • @benitobueno3373
      @benitobueno3373 4 роки тому +3

      @Roy Tabberer..many thanks Roy

    • @clivehorridge
      @clivehorridge 4 роки тому

      Chas Carpenter
      I was 4 years old 🤣🇬🇧

    • @julianopificius6910
      @julianopificius6910 3 роки тому

      @@clivehorridge I was two and a half - assuming they filmed this in the summer of '58. Hadn't yet moved to Cheltenham at that time... '61 or '62, I think.

  • @urbanjunglegroove1238
    @urbanjunglegroove1238 3 роки тому +1

    What a beautiful document! Thank you very much!

  • @greatunwashed1856
    @greatunwashed1856 4 роки тому +12

    Ah the Ford Consul I wanted when I was young, yes, I’m very old. All those injuries it must have been a football special.

  • @johnsamu
    @johnsamu 3 роки тому +1

    That was an enormous amount of safety procedures those men had to deal with(and remember). In these mobile phone, computer days things have simplified a lot I guess.

  • @MinifigJez
    @MinifigJez 4 роки тому +25

    I love how all 1958 injuries can be cured with.a well placed bandage.

    • @ArtStoneUS
      @ArtStoneUS 4 роки тому +14

      And a fresh cup of tea

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому +3

      To be fair, it was a pretty minor derailment so you'd be pretty unlucky to injured beyond sprains, cuts and bruises.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому +1

      It's a TRAINING FILM - and the point of it was not to show authentic looking blood and gore, but to help operating staff understand how to deal with accidents.

    • @MinifigJez
      @MinifigJez 3 роки тому +2

      @@jackx4311 it’s a SARCASTIC COMMENT - and the point of it was not to make people think I actually believed that, but hopefully make them chuckle

    • @normanconnor2771
      @normanconnor2771 Рік тому

      and a cup of tea obviously

  • @stephenburn6906
    @stephenburn6906 10 місяців тому

    This was old Cheltenam Station in the opening views the 1st large house is still there, however massively changed, but the 2nd with pitched roof (4 and 5 Maida Vale Rd) and 3rd with the hip roof (2 and 3 Maida Vale Rd) buildings are still here visible on maps etc. Gives an idea of where the opening shots were filmed. :-)

  • @dennischallinor8497
    @dennischallinor8497 4 роки тому +23

    My oh my how times have changed. Detonators, fountain pens, and people who take their job seriously. Who' da guessed hey?

    • @devtrash
      @devtrash 3 роки тому

      you surmised that those acting in this film are how people really did jobs back then? interesting.

    • @dennischallinor8497
      @dennischallinor8497 3 роки тому

      @@devtrash I didn't know they were actors!

    • @julianopificius6910
      @julianopificius6910 3 роки тому +1

      @@devtrash What evidence do you have to the contrary? As it was an information film, they would have been real employees doing tier real jobs, even if the "mishap" was enacted.

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 4 роки тому +5

    Was this accident caused when a passenger, Arthur Askey, lost his Bowler hat
    when leaning out a window of the train and he pulled the emergency stop cord?

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому +1

      You can't derail a train by pulling the emergency cord, bonehead.

    • @Bill23799
      @Bill23799 3 роки тому

      @@jackx4311 Haha, I was making a comedic reference to the Arthur Askey film " Ghost Train ". In the opening he loses his bowler hat out the window of a train so he pulls the emergency cord to stop the train to get his hat.
      It was a great film made during WW II I think. You can watch it free here on UA-cam.
      WARNING!......Watching Arthur Askey films can be habit forming.

  • @nickp1548
    @nickp1548 4 роки тому +17

    Hope you were listening, we'll be asking questions later.

    • @StephSancia
      @StephSancia 3 роки тому

      LOLOLOL

    • @SteveInskip
      @SteveInskip 3 роки тому

      Q1. How many cups of tea were on that tray? 😉😉🫖🚂🚂

    • @calvada1
      @calvada1 3 роки тому

      Q2. How old is the porter?

  • @Peter-pv8xx
    @Peter-pv8xx 3 роки тому +2

    I never knew about those detonators until I came across a story about major explosion the occurred in the next town from me where they made these devices, this was in the late forties, the explosion leveled several buildings and killed and injured many, I don't think they ever found out what caused it, this happened in Woodbridge NJ.

  • @rogerredding5269
    @rogerredding5269 4 роки тому +28

    Ah this time I loved beautiful England 💝 at its best.

    • @musiccollector
      @musiccollector 3 роки тому +2

      Imagine this in color! Gorgeous England.

  • @stephendines1936
    @stephendines1936 4 роки тому +48

    Priority number one, summon the tea lady.

    • @JanPeterson
      @JanPeterson 4 роки тому +2

      How's about a nice cuppa. Calm yer nerves.

    • @rajendralal3565
      @rajendralal3565 4 роки тому

      @@JanPeterson jtfhrfrjffghtggjgjjfj5jghftghttg5gghtthffgjtttjtff5fgf5fjhgf5fyjt4jttj4gtugfggfgtgrfrgfffjfjjfgghjjjjhgjd

  • @ohioken1
    @ohioken1 4 роки тому +139

    Legend has it the the train is still sitting there, but is protected by detonators from all directions

    • @TheDaern
      @TheDaern 4 роки тому +25

      Bricked up in the tunnel, but one day Henry will be allowed out again...

    • @DrLumpyDMus
      @DrLumpyDMus 3 роки тому +3

      Three before, three after, three a little further after...

    • @prg2812
      @prg2812 3 роки тому +13

      Legend has it too, that whenever the French heard those detonators they would immediately surrender as a precaution.

    • @anubis6864
      @anubis6864 3 роки тому +3

      @@prg2812 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @musiccollector
      @musiccollector 3 роки тому +1

      hahaha...

  • @vernonmatthews181
    @vernonmatthews181 Рік тому

    Very impressive 👏 presentation given for a 1958 scenario 👏 😊

  • @colinhoward74
    @colinhoward74 4 роки тому +5

    Funny enough , on the heritage lines in England , they still use the warning dets when a maintainance crew is working on the line . Not so old fashioned after all .

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому +6

      Detonators are still in use on the national network.

    • @alan2804
      @alan2804 3 роки тому

      When you say England, do you mean Britain?

  • @bertspeggly4428
    @bertspeggly4428 3 роки тому +6

    Everything is slow, clumsy and inefficient, but so much better! I'm grateful to be so old that I remember when the railways were like that.

    • @jackx4311
      @jackx4311 3 роки тому +1

      It might have looked slow, and inefficient, but hard experience had proved that every one of those rules and procedures was necessary. And they kept people safe.

  • @train4905
    @train4905 4 роки тому +3

    I really enjoyed this thanku for posting

  • @shashankdeshmukh300
    @shashankdeshmukh300 3 роки тому +2

    What if a derailment takes place inside the tunnel ?Is there a different procedure to be followed ?

    • @daylightman8459
      @daylightman8459 3 роки тому +2

      If a derailment were to occur in the tunnel, the process would still remain mostly the same, but emergency services would most likely be called to the accident site directly to aid the passengers who may be injured or suffering from smoke inhalation.