Porsche Taycan RWD | The Everyday EV
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- We review the RWD Single Motor Porsche Taycan with some of the 2023 Updates. The as-tested price of $105,00 will be for a more mainstream group of premium luxury buyers. The vehicle does everything well but is it enough? We discuss technology and engineering and the pros and cons.
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Index:
00:00 Intro and Interior
3:38 Mechanical Impressions
6:19 Driving Impressions
11:41 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
The Taycan could definitely get me into an electric car. I'm just not even close to being able to afford one, unless they'll give me 17 years of payments.
Well, I have a membership in the same club 😅
Can i interest you in a 30% apr?
Market is so bad I couldn't afford to rent a room much less an apartment in the middle of nowhere.
@@picklerick7731 uupgig
That could probably happen if nissan financed it
The wagon would make sense as family car but damn does this body style look good in real life
I've seen one for the first time in the "stormtrooper" spec, literally looked straight out of a Star Wars movie.
I am still debating whether to get the Lucid Air Pure or Base Taycan. Lucid is more roomy but Taycan is pure driver.
Wagon looks better imo
@@computercrack It’s a tough decision. but if I was “forced” to take one, I take the sedan.
You guys don't get enough credit for your sound mixing. Absolutely top of the heap on any UA-cam channel I've ever come across
Except this is so quiet. Then the ads blow my eardrums out
@@NeonDude20 ublock origin. but also support your favorite creators
That’s a nice retro color on the car. Modernized with a metallic sheen. A very good looking vehicle, inside and out.
I love my RWD Taycan with big battery and air ride. I had a Cross Turismo on order but the lead time was 1 year+, prices kept going up and the tax rebate going away, I found a 500 mile dealer demo car for a price I couldn't refuse and don't regret it at all. The only issue with the Taycan is the availability sucks right now. Great car!
How much gold bullion did you have to trade in for it?
How long have you owned it for?
@@pieswimmer1 I sold a 991.2 Carrera T and made $30k over what I paid, and still had 5 figures leftover shekels after I bought the Taycan. Plus I get another $7,500 back at tax time next year.
@@hamsterbrigade 2 months - but it's been flawless so far. Getting the updated infotainment next week so it's nice to see that Porsche is prioritizing software updates.
Can’t even tell if this one is classical goose sarcasm lol
I have owned almost this exact spec car since February. I have over 10k miles on mine and use it as my daily driver. I drive around 50 miles per day. The Taycan has been an amazing car so far. I am a driving enthusiast… I have an NB Miata track car and traded in a 2019 Miata RF on the Taycan. I couldn’t be happier. My wife and I have taken the Taycan on multiple weekend trips and the Electrify America chargers have provided a great experience here in the Florida/Georgia area. Free fast charging for 3 years on that network is a great bonus and was included with the purchase. The Taycan provides a very wide envelope of driving experiences. From ultra quiet and smooth highway cruising to turning hard laps at my local road course, it has exceeded my expectations in every regard. Yes it is expensive, but I feel it is the best balance of price and everyday useable performance of any EV currently available.
Cool. For 20k less, one can get a roomier Rivian R1S which I'd consider to be of more value.
@@RelizEkpoJnr In 5 years there will be all kinds of great EVs available. Have you driven an R1S or a Taycan? They look like two completely different vehicles to me.
@@RelizEkpoJnr And you can roll the dice on a company that lost $1.7 Billion last quarter and can't deliver cars - so it's vaporware. Oh and the pricing is skyrocketing as well. And good luck with getting the Rivian serviced, I have a Porsche dealer down the street...
Do you feel the weight compromise when you full send it to corners compared to miata?
@@Mark-rt6fy Absolutely. Two different cars at the limit. The Taycan is 4600 lbs compared to my Miata at 2000 lbs. That said, the Taycan is a blast to drive on track. I was honestly surprised at the tendency for the car to rotate on trail braking, as well as oversteer on corner exit. The power is a continuous push as long as you are on throttle. I can’t wait to see what the future holds for performance EVs.
As Mark said, I like the spec on this one. Perfect commuter spec that is both an EV and a really great car at the same time.
Maybe add the LSD, plus the larger battery pack, if only $5k, is a good deal for both range and power. But even those aren't necessary. If this has such decent ride quality and handling in the steel springs, I'd stay away from the air suspension for sure. They almost all fail long before the rest of the car and are insanely expensive to repair. I prefer the wagon for both better rear headroom and styling I find more distinctive (and appropriate for a four-door), but I'd be happy with this. I do wish they'd restyle the headlights. They look like some sort of aftermarket replacement that don't fit the holes they're stuck in.
LSD? 😂
@@matthewday1242 limited slip differential
I've had my RWD with the big battery and air suspension for 6 months now and approaching 5k awesome miles.
Congrats have fun, good choice!
That is an extremely nice commuter. I'm jealous. And that wink was brilliant :P
Can’t wait to buy one in a few years once some of these RWD become 2nd cars. Perfect real estate daily driver for my city.
Always the best - most practical(?) and well considered reviews. Very much appreciate the unvarnished comments regarding the cars you and Jack review. Cheers!
I’m fortunate to be in a position that my choices for an EV were either Taycan(RWD) or the I4 M50. I ultimately decided on the I4M50 due to the quoted delivery time of 8-14 months for the Taycan verses the 4-6 months for the I4 M50. Thanks for the video, I enjoy the content.
Why not a model S? Its slightly cheaper and blows both the I4 and the Taycan out of the water in terms of performance.
@@GXMAN16
Great question big bro and I’ll be honest. I didn’t pick the Tesla because 1) Drive quality and handling is not as good. Having a fast 0-60 is fun but the party trick wears out after awhile. 2) The quality of material used in the Tesla is subpar. 3) I like the exclusivity factor and I see model S everywhere. 4) Most importantly, BMW and Porsche are “drivers cars” while Tesla wants to remove the driver from experience with its autopilot system. I actually like to drive my car especially if I’m being asked to pay all this money.
@@dcDOC19 Make sense, I respect that. Tesla shot themselves in the foot I think by going all in into making these fast 0-60 cars, but paradoxically with a philosophy of removing the driver, but the biggest factor is they half assed everything else. Like you said for that much money getting build quality and material of a sub 30k car is in excusable. I own a BMW, EVs are not my cup tea just yet, but I hope you enjoy yours, I love mine
@@dcDOC19 good summary obi, I would add the Tesla build quality allows for 1/8" gap on the hood right side, 3/8" gap on the left, not to mention the "I velcro'd my iPad to the center dash" interior approach
Try not to get eaten by the horrendously giant grille
Another excellent review and you guys always manage to include some nice humor in it; ie the color of the eyes to match your car video! I remember hating the look of the Panamera, with the odd proportions and whatnot. The thing has grown on me with the Taycan. It is a great-looking car and this version strikes a good balance.
I gotta get me one of those shirts!
I swear you two work off each other like no others on UA-cam. Just a pleasure to watch.
I've taken this particual 270° highway onramp at very high speed, traffic permitting, riding my 1299 on many occasions. And one day a Taycan Turbo joined my shinnanigans rocking licence plate "Silence". He nearly matched my entry speed. And 1299 Pingale is no slouch of a motorcycle. I was impressed. I gave the bloke a thumbs up and sped up. He had no chance of catching me..LoL
$9,000 optional 21" wheels on the base "commuter spec" is an interesting decision.
..but/and an unnecessary one
FYI - unless you're Canadian, these Porsche Exclusive wheels painted jet black are just over US$6k and that includes the additional rubber (21-35-305 in the rear)
Yeah I went onto the configurator after this video. Those wheels were like $17,000 AUD in Australia. Just insane.
They are really not $9000 better looking at all..
@@ryanaugustine5749 how could they be?
Thanks as always guys, I think you should try to get hold of the Polestar 2 Performance mainly for the chassi side of things.
It's a heavy car with little feedback to the steering wheel but it's a really nice package
Smart to blur the speedometer! Thoughtfully smart reviews in all your videos 👍🏻
Amazing content as always.
0:55 minor correction: this color is Frozen Blue Metallic, not Frozen Berry Metallic as stated
It's amazing that a 13 second car can be considered "lacking speed"
The wink got me. I was rolling.
been waitin for this one!
For the record those rims will set you back a cool $9K, the larger Performance+ battery pack (with 20% more range) $6K.
The battery pack is actually a pretty good bargain. In how many other cars can you get such a big power bump for so little? And here you get a sizeable range increase, too. I can't see any reason not to get it. The wheels I'd pass on.
For the record those rims will set you back US $6K
I have this car for my daily 80 miles drive to work....I am loving it, every second of it. Although it is ultra expensive for my budget but the feeling of driving this car can't be bought with money
"Porsche...there is no substitute.
"but the feeling of driving this car can't be bought with money" - he said after buying this feeling with money
Certainly not with your average pleb's money
As to Porsche- that feeling is a bit of mental therapy when driving.
@@brandonclark8736 no they didn't, they bought the car. The feeling is intangible
It's crazy we live in a world where $100,000 commuter cars exist.
Great video and awesome cars, the cross turismo rides even better.
Indeed a beautiful everyday EV
THEY CATCH ON FIRE ball boys
“What are the competitors to this?” Doesn’t even mention the model S lmao I love it
I was about to comment the same thing. I would think the model S would be the main one being cross-shopped to this given the price point
I guess they probably thought that Porsche buyers wouldn't cross shop a Tesla? I know I wouldn't if I could afford a new Porsche.
I just tested a refresh Model S for 3 days. Rented on Turo. Build quality and quality of materials is pathetic for 100k car. Replacing a real controls with yoke, sensory buttons and screens is a cheap , not safe trend either. So happy to return to X5 that got it all right. Doubt anyone who test Taycan and MS have any problem choosing a car and not a religion.
Tesla isn't a luxury brand. It's a tech brand.
@@driliagor I had a Tesla Model X 2018 for rent and i was absolutely shocked by the quality. it's a 30k car in reality really.
well done gentlemen, great music, too...
liked, commented and subscribed for the algorithm!
Has anyone ever bought a car at this price range based only on the reviews? Yours are excellent, but at this kind of money, I would go for an exhaustive test drive before dropping my black-market-sold-kidney money on this ride.
Why not both? 🪅🪅🪅
Every new Ferrari purchase..
Don’t be poor?
Regardless of budget, it's convenient to watch videos and learn about the car you're interested in. Go into a test drive informed.
Considering there are rarely vehicles to test drive on lots, reviews may be the only way to inform yourself before placing an order and waiting a year or more for your new car to show up
It's beyond asinine that a 2023 model year $100k car still has a very noticeable half second response delay on their touch screens (especially in warm weather). Who the hell is actually asking for HVAC controls on a touch screen!?
Absolutely no-one
The same people who want a digital screen on their toilets.
except there's been a major software update, and the response is now milliseconds
Exactly
i loved her role in true detective season 1 would have liked to see something like that with porsche commercial.
I disagree with your comment that this doesn't have a lot of standard stuff, without adding any options. If you're only going to use this as a commuter car, I would only see one must-have option (18-way seats for $1700), and buy this thing at under $90k. Very little else in the options catalogue is really necessary for a great commuter car. If you're going to do long road trips, that's another story.
Best thing about these is they grab everyone's attention on the road
I guess if I lived in a place like Florida and could afford it, would be a great car as a daily.
I'll never be able to afford this but it seems like the perfect trim to me. It's honestly all you need and the only EV that's ever given me the tingles. I question how good the open differential will be in poor weather but honestly it seems like the most fun option by far. My car is FWD and thankfully has an LSD but in a RWD vehicle I'd rather enjoy myself (and hopefully not send it off the road!).
Matching shirts OMG how adorable.
Worth noting the lower running costs vs ICE competition. That monthly vehicle budget gets to be a bit more lease and a bit less other costs. Might make sense to mentally compare it to more like the $85k ICE equivalents.
Gorgeous color
Thanks!
I would suggest that you asks owners of Taycans, "How many days have you lost the use of your Taycan due to recalls?"
It's very green and cloudy in this part of Mexico where they are testing 😁
Like the basic Carrera 2 on the 911 cost/enjoyment curve.
7:25 "This is the one that you're probably going to buy more realistically at least. This is 104 grand." Then Mark's little wince at the number is great.
"Riding on top of a battery pack" - Mark I'm borrowing this.
Mark gave me a wink. Had to give it a like.
Still out of therethere conventional price spectrum but I think it’s a good product for Porsche to snag a few more of cross brand shoppers. Great content again
Is it just me, or do I see uneven panel gaps at 11:49 in the sheet metal on either side near the headlights where the hood meets the bumper? 🧐
Lucid air has much more interior space with just an inch longer and handles pretty great too. I think they nailed it when it comes to ground up thinking in EV.
First of all: Lucid is just a rookie in the industry and will have the same disgusting build quality issues like Tesla has.
You can't compare such a totally unknown thing like a "Lucid" to the best EV drivers cars in this industry. If you do so, well, you really have no fucking clue about premium EVs, dude! You can't beat Porsche build quality with a Lucid! And forget about this "... the Lucid handles pretty great too", because it's far away from Porsche capabilities.
The Lucid Air is just another big and fucking heavy "electric scateboard" vehicle, where you will have exactly this feeling of "just riding a fucking huge battery", whereas the Porsche Taycan is still a drivers car despite of its high EV weight, even in its "base" single motor version.
A totally rookie like Lucid just can't beat a Porsche Taycan. Sorry, dude!
It's like you compare a shitty built fucking heavy "thing" an a huge battery to a totally composed and perfectly built German performance luxury vehicle.
@@user-jf8gd3lv7q lol, sure 😂. Because everyone at lucid graduated and joined lucid, right? All I talked about ground up thinking about design, the way Porsche and lucid went in different direction. Problem with Tesla was that they wanted to do everything in unconventional way.
Anyway please f off 😂. I didn't ask for fanboy to come comment. 🤷♂️
@@user-jf8gd3lv7q and the most funny things is air has almost double the range, lower price, more space, less weight, better 0-60 and top speed all in comparable trims 😂😂.
Porsche handle great but so do air, look at the reviews from others like hagetry. But who I am telling this 😂😂 fanboys don't care about facts. 🤷♂️
@@user-jf8gd3lv7q Snort. It's perfectly reasonable to compare the actual products, not your fanboy imaginary version. Lucid hasn't been having the same assembly problems Tesla did because, unlike Elon, they hired some seriously experienced people to make sure they didn't. Of course the Air is not quite the same, and isn't trying to be, but for the general driving/commuting they were talking about in the video it's no joke, either. Dismissing the Lucid as a "skateboard" ignores that the Taycan is built almost the same way, with a big slab of battery under the floor. Yeah, they stepped it a little at the footwells, but it isn't that different. It's really the only sensible way to build an EV right now. It also gives a nice, low center of gravity.
@@ruturaj47 And the even more funny thing is, that this doesn't fucking matter at all compared to a Porsche Taycan, dude!
Forget about this shitty and boring "range" discussion, because 90% of Taycan owners certainly won't need 400+ fantasy miles of range for such an EV. Because most these customers still have some other Porsches at home, for using them more purposefully and for longer range.
The Taycan is still a true Porsche. It's not a shitty low quality product, made by an unkown little company... 😉😉😁😁
Charging the car at home, every day, at night, is just perfect for Taycan owners. A fully charged battery each day in the morning with a Taycan is all what you need with this car.
A rookie like Lucid maybe has to make some "statements" with things like "range", because nobody knows who they are what they are making.
All the Porsche Taycan models certainly don't need fantasy range numbers like Lucid and Tesla have. Forget about all this EPA bullshit, because Taycan range numbers are always near 290 miles, whereas Tesla numbers have always been absolute fantasy.... At daily driving you won't have bigger problems with the Taycan range.
By the way: electric range from a 130 or even 150 kWh battery.... Is this the future? This is the fucking dumbest thing EV makers can do. In our era of environmental issues and CO2 discussions all over the place, these fucking heavy and huge batteries are just like the wrong answers to a wrong question.
The question is: how to get more electric range out of a smaller batterie, but not from a bigger batterie.
It's just this typically American thing, as ever: "Bigger is better"... blah blah blah. It's so boring!
I see: You understand fucking NOTHING about the Taycan, dude. Therefore it's pretty useless to argue with people like you, who are so full in "Tesla/Lucid fanboy" mode.
It's as fucking boring as to discuss with a brain dead fanboy of these low quality products, which are still fucking expensive vehicles by the way!
The Taycan is worth every penny of it, just like any other Porsche.
Tesla and Lucid have fucking awful build quality, their materials are shit and these cars will be fucking outdated in a very short time.
A Porsche Taycan will always be a true drivers and luxury vehicle. And it's a PORSCHE !
Listen, you unteachable clown: You just can't beat a Porsche with such an American rookie vehicle called "Lucid", period! 😂😂
Porsche as a legendary 19 times overall winner of the LeMans 24 hour race (with some 110 more class victories) has more than 70 years of huge experience how to translate all its racing suspension, chassis, steering technology, and for the Taycan also braking recuperation technology, into their road cars and EVs.
A rookie in the industry like Lucid has fucking NOTHING to take on the EV table beside pure "range". That's all!
But range isn' everything! Daily charging at home with a Taycan is all what you need for almost 90% of Taycan owners.
Rookies like Tesla or Lucid are fucking N O T H I N G S compared to Porsche! Wake up, you clown!
Their build quality, chassis technology, braking and steering just sucks, whereas a Porsche Taycan is the best driving EV, has a perfect build quality like a totally rocksolid piece of luxury vault on wheels, which drives like a sports car.
All these new EV companies just build fucking 2.5 tons heavy and huge batteries on wheels with some fancy gimmicks around it.
Mark and Jack in this video are exactly talking about this FACT.
Just watch the video!
iX with B&W and options is like $102k (with air suspension, rear steer) so might compare
that car looks like TikTokers car.
I think something is wrong with the in car camera, it keeps blurring out the speedometer when Mark is driving 🤔
This is so relatable
Damn kind of disappointed this isn't a hatchback. That would help with the rear seat space and cargo room
...but there is. Sport/cross turismo thing...however, Porsche added a larger rear volume and charges you for it. But it can still be had as a hatch/wagon.
The back seats are not great for people over 6 ft, your head doesn’t touch the roof but it’s just close enough where you’d wish you have the hatch version. Plus the shape of the roof makes it uncomfortable to get in and out
Edit: Please review the Lucid Air! I’d love to see all the engineering subjected to your guys’ in depth discussion.
Honestly this is still the peak sporty EV for me. Even in base trim (albeit with the larger battery and some premium packs), it’s still a compelling package if I were shopping in this price range. With this lower tier model you’re getting the R&D for a 200k car and like mark said, you’re getting 80% of the turbo model for half the price, which makes it a really good car way out of its price range.
And the battery engineering and packaging is still one of the best aside from Mercedes’ EQS and the lucid. You’ve got the 800V architecture with its fast charging that is still one of the fastest, the large capacity with enough buffer, the footwell cutouts to make it lower, and the transmission that allows a still competitive range. I expect this will remain competitive for years with anything outside of cutting edge EVs.
I also still love the looks better than almost any 4 door machine, although I’d choose the GTS wagon if I could. I remember when this thing was merely a concept low slung panamera coupe thing and I thought it was going to be an unobtainium 918 spyder level thing. But maybe I can pick one of these up when the used market slows down. It still will have the jaw dropping looks, the Porsche tuned chassis and performance, and the comfy quiet interior.
Then again, for this price, for a luxury commuter, I’d probably go a different route - a Lucid perhaps (a car with tesla level tech and legacy automaker level R&D), which you guys gotta review, please! Or of course I wouldn’t spend all this on a commuter and would rather have an i4 e40 or lyriq commuter and a GR86 weekend car for less than this Porsche. But by god I wish I were in the position where a 100-200k car would be a reasonable choice.
you lost me at "I also still love the looks better than almost any 4 door machine, although I’d choose the GTS wagon if I could. " wagon for looks? ha
@@C2B1303 yeah, a lot of people like the look of wagons if you didn’t know (outside of the US).
@@C2B1303 are you kidding? Fastbacks and longroofs are the best shape for practicality, and for looks. They’re sleek and not a stubby or smoothed out three box shape
@@C2B1303 I prefer the wagon's looks, too. This looks generic sports car, a silly shape for a mid-sized sedan. The wagon is more distinctive. The rear-seat headroom of this totally sucks. And yes, it matters. This isn't a 2+2 with a back seat that's for kids on short trips (or parcels), it's a long car with four doors.
@@markmiller3279 taycan sedan generic? so it's similar to?? wagon screams suburban family, picking up kids from school, usw...
I need that!😊
How long does it take to charge from 0 to full?
Excellent review. I have a Tesla 3 and want to move to a better driving experience. I really liked the conclusion of the guy driving when he said it’s better to buy a proper sport car with the 100k overprice of the turbo s. I actually have that small sport car (Alpine) so I’ll definitely go for the RWD TAYCAN.
Can you remind us what options the car you tested has ?
I’d honestly buy a used gas powered corvette for 60 ish k and keep the model 3 for daily driving. I don’t think they tycan really makes sense from any value proposition
I test drove this one in Barrington, il: upgrade to 21 exclusive wheels (painted), add premium package is the gist of it
It's incredibly cathartic to hear you guys pronounce Taycon (tie-con) properly.
Can you guys please review the base taycan cross turismo
That commercial segment being imbedded was hilarious.
Could anyone find a complete commercial?
well done.
Though not a direct competition, but how does it handle compared to Model 3P?
The wink is one of the all-time best moments on this channel 6:57
it's frozen blue but frozen berry.
also it's not just one less motor, the single motor is also smaller than higher spec models
With the current lease discounts this car is an awesome buy compared to the gas powered cars. Purchased this and E-tron GT and the E-Tron has more power, air suspension etc. but the Porsche trumps it with fit and finish, slightly sportier suspension and thankfully no glossy black interiors. Also the car is just slow in 0-60 but if you look at quarter mile of 12.9 seconds all the time is lost in the 0-60… between 40-80 this car just pulls!
Taycan’s are amongst the most common Porches I see, so they’re doing something right with this. I don’t know why but the RWD Taycan feels like its gonna be the G35 of luxury EVs
I have a Taycan and have yet to see another on the road. Cayenne's I see on a daily basis. I'm more North, so maybe that plays a factor in a state where trucks are the norm.
Would totally buy a base RWD wagon
In non-US markets, a RWD Taycan Sport Turismo is offered (as well as the other typical trim levels offered on the Cross Turismo). In the US, the only Sport Turismo trim is offered in GTS guise.
@@christopherye4146 Which is a shame, and I think a mistake. Anyone who actually uses the rear seat will run up against the limits of the sedan. Or their passengers will - with their heads.
@@christopherye4146 I guess I'd settle for a Cross Turismo, but buy it in a dark color to help disguise the stupid black bits. Both the dark Cherry (really burgundy), and the Gentian Blue look pretty.
I can think of one big reason that the open diff RWD is no big deal. If it snows, you're going to leave this thing in the garage and instead take the gasser where turning the heat up won't risk stranding you.
The descriptor 'everyday' is pretty dubious in a $100k 'daily driver'. But this car is a gargantuan homage to Colin Chapman's dictum "simplify and add lightness", in the sense that this is the lightest 2 wheel drive version.
At that price point, how would you say it compares to the standard Model S (same price, but with dual motors)?? Thanks!!
Mkbhd talks about this on his podcast and the Porsche just more luxury
I'm waiting for the hybrid 911
This is the only EV id consider getting. The noise it makes is pretty cool i guess. Better then any other EV ive heard. Atleast the interior still has bucket seats and everything so it feels special to be inside unlike teslas dull and boring design system. Very good looking EV. The only people that get a tesla over this simply cant afford it.
@3:52 and @6:59 its the way how Mark is always smiling like some mischievous chihuahua pup🤣
When are you guys Reviewing a Lucid Air?
I managed to gather up enough money to buy a 987.2 Cayman Manual with the 2.9L. I hope one day I can afford a brand new Porsche. Every car in their range is amazing.
Had one of those, 2010 with sport package and other nice options. I truly regret letting it go and would love another.
@@TexasRiverRat31254 I lust after a camaro zl1 1le or a mustang gt350R. once I pay off my loans this year that's what I'm gunning for
@@berengerchristy6256 be the baller you are and get the v6 1LE
@@d.leesheppard7607 I'm on track to pay off $80k in 2 years, so get a job when you grow up and you too can have nice things
@@berengerchristy6256 ease up bro no sarcasm intended. I've read the v6 1LE is the way to go. I don't think fun should cost so much and today's sports cars are OP for the street.
Chiillll esssay
The battery replacement cost is outrageous. 50k+ according to some reports. I would be willing to buy one if the replacement costs were under 20k.
When politicians say we will all have EVs they have zero grasp on reality. Who is going to afford a $40k EV, no question something like this $100k.
Especially when the infrastructure is decades away from being ready for the extra capacity. And that's a generous figure. Anyone who claims EVs are green are delusional at best. The materials used to create the batteries (read: lithium) require environmentally-destructive mining. But EV proponents won't mention that part because that's the kind of fact which doesn't fit their narrative.
The average new vehicle price for all vehicles in 07/2022 was $48,000. American's have been obsessed with overpriced pickup trucks for years, yet now they can't afford a $40,000 car? Honda Civic's cost $40,000 now by the way. If $40k isn't in somebody's budget just wait a few years for more affordable options.
40k is basically the standard entry level now for newer cars.
A Nissan Leaf is like $27k new before any incentives
@@TheAdventureAuto If you didn’t know, our tax code is messed up. Most pickup trucks are for business use, even the highest trim levels with heated leather seats qualify. The other set of buyers have a house far away from cities and need a pickup to move supplies around. The cost of a vehicle is not correlated to the income most people have. I’ve seen a study where even a new $40k car bought every lifecycle ends up as some ridiculous half a million dollars over a lifetime. EVs should be much cheaper to produce but corruption has its way.
105,00, damn what a steal...
Did I see that right? You have a drift corner on your favorite road where somebody died in the past (small cross) - although there is only open space and no tree?
It's main competition is the E Tron GT. VW Group does a good job of making the same vehicle and selling it under different badges at different prices.....
Can't remember, that more options were a bad thing.
It's just fine. Plenty of....... consumers will pay 20, 30, 40 percent more for a badge.
Nice merch, nerds!
Everyday minus winter climates.
Looks good tho.
I wish they made a drivers edition of this car. Make everything analog - instrument and hvac. Remove most of the screens/tech and just put in performance parts and sell it for 70k.
Seems like a nice daily.
What's with the jerkiness in the steering wheel after a corner?
Is it the electric power steering? I've never tried a car with one and I don't think I ever want to.
Probably was oversteering and he was correcting.
in frozen blue and some decent wheels yes please
I prefer Mamba Green
Is the porsche expernce really worth like $70K though? As you can buy an Ecoboost mustang with more power for around $30K and if you want a BEV you can buy the Mach-E at half the price of and same power as the Taycan...
And how many people cross shop an Ecoboost Mustang with a Porsche Taycan?
6:12 you guys need to capture and reuse the “aww, yeah”.
Sport/cross-turismo wagon thingy for me...just ups the Taycan coolness +1, and we all know euro wagons are cooler. Entry fee is the biggest hurdle for me.
You guys have a typo in your description. Should be $105,000. Do I win something for finding this? Was this a test?
A few counterpoints:
-I don’t think most RWD taycan buyers have/ could afford a 200k-300k gt3 as their 2nd car. That might apply to taycan turbo owners though.
-EV or not, I can’t find another sub 100k car that I’d rather have as a daily driver. The taycan has a great blend of looks, seating position, build quality, ride/handling and comfort. Bmws and Mercedes are too ugly, Audis are too numb, and I don’t want an SUV or a FWD based car. The turbo 4 and 6 cylinders in most modern cars don’t do anything for me so I might as well get the benefits of an EV.
Personally I could just about afford a RWD Taycan with a few options. No I don’t make typical Porsche owner levels of income but:
-we only need 1 car now that both my wife and I work from home
-I’d save about 200/month in gas costs which is equivalent to leasing an ICE car with a 15-20k lower msrp.
So effectively I could run this car for what it woukd cost me to have 2 mainstream cars. Fair tradeoff I think.
Average Taycan owners makes 550k. Thats straight from Porsche FYI.
@UCgUvk6jVaf-1uKOqG8XNcaQ not surprised…I bet the average transaction price is easily close to 150k
@@savagegeese Why does Porsche know the average income of their customers a) and b) those numbers are probably based on last year's dogecoin owners. They might very well be making -550k annualy now.
My favorite thing is when I ask these owners of the taycan why they bought it and they say to save on gas $ lmao. Nice initial fee of 104k though!
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If this was $65K instead of $105K, I would actually lease one of these as a daily driver. 👍
Then you would see as many Taycans around as Macans.
Audi e-tron gets closer to that price.
It’s a Porsche it’s more expensive than a model S spec for spec wise but drives better and is built better.
guessing you shop at Costco
6:44 Todario = "faded porta pottie" in Portuguese
One thing I don’t have the idea of yet is how these cars will depreciate and hold value. Porsches hold value, some value, forever. Often very well. What will be a 10 and 20 year Taycan be worth? Will the car be bricked because of the battery? Will future owners accept an old Taycan with reduced range because it’s older as a trade off for having a classic e-Porsche? When if ever will there be a path to reasonably priced battery replacement? There are 50 year old Porsches that make a lot of people happy as classics. What is the future of the classic e-car? I’ve owned 3 electric cars. I’d love to keep driving our e-Golf but it’ll be a brick in a couple years. And yeah I passed up all sorts of EVs to buy a super fun 991 911 like Mark says of the GT3 for the weekend.
Have driven the Taycan a bit. The 750 HP versions are overkill.
The answer will likely be coming from independent body shops as it has been for ice cars, I assume. I remember a time before every old car suddenly is more valuable than a new one and back then, cars either went to the scrap yard, became donors or were maintained privately or independently. Like it's possible for old Prius and to a smaller degree for Teslas, independent shops offer battery repair/exchange with refurbished cells, that will likely come for all EV brands. Obviously there is somewhat of a spectrum regarding how owners take care of their car, so there will certainly be taycans rotting away at some point, but it will likely be the minority.