Hand Welted Shoes For Under $600! | Yeossal Shoe Review | Kirby Allison

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  • Опубліковано 15 січ 2021
  • A hand welted pair of shoes, but made in China!?! Previously unheard of, a relatively new company, Yeossal, based in Singapore, now offers MTO shoes with hand welted outsoles. Until now, this was an element reserved for bespoke shoes and high priced European MTO shoes. Not only does Yeossal now offer a hand welted shoe, but almost all of the shoe is customizable.
    In this video, Kirby reviews the Thompson, a hatch grain Derby. This isn't a sample shoe though. This was actually purchased by Kirby Allison's resident shoe shiner, Caleb Malinowski.
    The real appeal for this shoe though, might be the price! A hand welted MTO Derby all for less that $600! That is the benefit of getting a pair of shoes made in China.
    If you want to know more about what makes hand welting so special, watch this video all about it:
    • What Makes A Hand-Welt...
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    www.yeossal.com/
    And a direct link to the hand welted MTO collection:
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  • @davidl2662
    @davidl2662 3 роки тому +21

    Good quality craftsmanship is capable by any craftsman in any country. Please encourage high level craftsmanship from anyone anywhere. The more the better. Especially if they are putting in the care.

  • @m.p.jallan2172
    @m.p.jallan2172 3 роки тому +7

    I only learnt about bespoke shoes last year through this channel, it would appear nothing can overtake doing the whole thing in person, hence more options cant be bad for us who dont have the means for an ultimately supreme pair of shoes. Thanks Kaleb and Kirby.

  • @Iberian247
    @Iberian247 3 роки тому +8

    I’m glad to see you featuring more derbies on the channel. They are so comfortable, adjustable and versatile (with trousers/chinos/jeans). You’re right, the heel is overkill but you chose a beautiful pair.

  • @jamesblack5441
    @jamesblack5441 3 роки тому +7

    As always, I appreciate your attention to detail and knowledge about the art of crafting well-made shoes. Coincidentally, I just purchased the same pair of shoes - which arrived today.

    • @alihuss.3545
      @alihuss.3545 3 роки тому

      Mind if I ask how the sizing went for your selected last?

  • @liamreal1
    @liamreal1 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks Kirby for sharing. I lived in Shanghai, China for two years and have developed relationships with many quality bespoke clothiers there. Always interested in Yeossal. I will go wherever great shoes are being made. Spain, Portugal, the UK, Vietnam, France and the U.S. (Alden especially.)

  • @alanc6468
    @alanc6468 2 роки тому +3

    For those that don't know, hand-welted shoes sit lower on the ground because the holdfast design doesn't leave a large cavity that requires much cork or leather filling.

  • @renebrito6423
    @renebrito6423 3 роки тому +4

    really educational video! thank you so much. really nice unbiased, just the facts! thank you.

  • @veronicianyveronica5290
    @veronicianyveronica5290 Рік тому +2

    Wow 😮 $600 for bespoke shoes?! I’m in man I’m in !

  • @kylelin1201
    @kylelin1201 3 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing!!

  • @frankrizzo7185
    @frankrizzo7185 3 роки тому +3

    Good point about the heel. Impressive shoes for that price.

  • @bheinatz1
    @bheinatz1 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you Kirby! A thorough review, much like Vladimir Riche's; am I foreseeing a future collaboration on a video? 😁

    • @YacDiesel
      @YacDiesel 3 роки тому +3

      They actually collaborated on a livestream a few months ago

    • @jebbush2527
      @jebbush2527 2 роки тому +1

      I wish Vladimir came back

  • @patj7007
    @patj7007 3 роки тому +3

    Caleb should do a review after wearing. Sizing, fit, etc

  • @adrianpavee5308
    @adrianpavee5308 3 роки тому +3

    I'm a big lover of Yeossal, and have supported their efforts since they've started business. They're really excellent!

  • @DavidSewellStopSmokingHypnosis
    @DavidSewellStopSmokingHypnosis 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Kirby! Such a great resource to know about!

  • @mlwalk1033mw
    @mlwalk1033mw 3 роки тому

    Beautiful

  • @kojiattwood
    @kojiattwood 3 роки тому +10

    Great review Kirby! Have been very interested in this brand ever since Vladimir did a review on a pair of Oxfords.

  • @olatusijazz8155
    @olatusijazz8155 3 роки тому +4

    Kirby, your grey jacket is well-tailored. Sharp dresser.

  • @classicshourly627
    @classicshourly627 3 роки тому +6

    Say, that houndstooth jacket looks sharp! A great choice to pair with those shoes.

  • @archiehamilton-martin7472
    @archiehamilton-martin7472 3 роки тому +6

    From what I know its pronounced: ye-o-ss-al (as in like al gore). But equally I live in the UK and our pronunciations of foreign brands can be really bad. Great video I like it when you look at more affordable brands as being 16 my budget is a bit thin😆.

    • @FaronPharo
      @FaronPharo 3 роки тому +1

      Beautiful shoes, I would be proud to wear those no matter the company

  • @lyznav9439
    @lyznav9439 3 роки тому +1

    Kirby, I actually like the pitch at the back. I don't see it as a flawed copy of a less steep pitch, but rather along the lines of being inspired by someone like Daniel Wegan. Of course, I do agree that it doesn't fall into the category of an English shoe, but that should be good thing-ideally, brands from the East should in fact have distinguishing properties as one could perhaps believe distinction to be a hallmark of true passion for shoemaking. This kind of divergence in design could perhaps even be a requirement for the way shoemakers can build each other up without being direct competition.

  • @joelstatosky1817
    @joelstatosky1817 2 роки тому

    I recomend everyone get a pair, the quality is amazing and at an affordable cost.

  • @pechadeh
    @pechadeh 3 роки тому +5

    19:01 Kirby, you haven’t follow back?! 😱

  • @ianseow12
    @ianseow12 3 роки тому +1

    Very dapper look in that grey jacket and dark trousers.

  • @rayleeaustralia
    @rayleeaustralia 3 роки тому

    I agree. The heel has too much tapered in which spoils the look a bit

  • @Waldemarvonanhalt
    @Waldemarvonanhalt 3 роки тому

    As a South African, the pencil test means something a lot different to me. Lol

  • @urbandaniel100
    @urbandaniel100 3 роки тому +1

    Can you review archibald London ?

  • @pranidhanaabhiyoga6485
    @pranidhanaabhiyoga6485 3 роки тому +3

    You can also find hand welted shoes under usd $ 400 in Indonesia 👌

    • @gemasboy
      @gemasboy 3 роки тому +1

      Which Indonesian brands at that price? 😍

    • @pranidhanaabhiyoga6485
      @pranidhanaabhiyoga6485 3 роки тому +1

      @@gemasboy
      Sagara bootmaker, Koku Footwear, Winson Shoemaker. You should google them 👌😁

    • @gemasboy
      @gemasboy 3 роки тому +1

      @@pranidhanaabhiyoga6485 really useful list, thanks :)

  • @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
    @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 2 роки тому

    How do you know how well they'll fit? Just pray a highly-lasted shoe will fit? Seems like you need a fully-bespoke shoe or just buy something you can get fitted.

  • @raphthecollector3824
    @raphthecollector3824 3 роки тому +2

    Really great to see you reviewing this Kirby. I frequently view Yeossal's website because of the nice styles they offer. It's a bit harder to get quality classic menswear in Asia so being in the Philippines, it's good to see sources from nearby available!

    • @darionwinters2542
      @darionwinters2542 3 роки тому +1

      Check out Patrio Shoemaker from Manila - reviewed by Wisconsin Shoeguy :)

  • @crisyorke1328
    @crisyorke1328 3 роки тому +5

    So Caleb bought saphir from overseas rather than from Kirby’s?? Boy, that’s awkward!

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому +4

      Lol. We promptly burned it and admonished him.

    • @crisyorke1328
      @crisyorke1328 3 роки тому +1

      Kirby Allison HAHAHAHA

    • @mskorkoss
      @mskorkoss 3 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣 must have been free

  • @tincamel
    @tincamel 3 роки тому

    When you order you have to specify what type of last you want. Can someone find a translation for what the different abbreviations mean? For example SG65.

  • @msarrage
    @msarrage 3 роки тому

    Where do you resole a hand welted shoe in the USA? Or would you send them back and do they do resoling ?

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому +3

      The welt is the piece of leather to which the outsole is sewn. So, you can have a pair of shoes resoled by machine here in the United States and it will not change the fact that the shoes were hand welted. There are some cobblers, also, like our cobbler, that can handsew the outsole onto the shoes. It is about twice the cost, because of the time involved, but it can be done.

  • @SplurgeFrugal
    @SplurgeFrugal 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful shoes! As you said, with the exception of the pitch of the heel, they are excellent. Nice to see this level of quality made accessible to the common man who wants to dress well!

  • @wiljan6198
    @wiljan6198 3 роки тому +9

    ACME next?

  • @gregorythomas2674
    @gregorythomas2674 3 роки тому +1

    @5:14 you get a good shot of the invisible channel stitch on the sole and the inferior work they do. You can see its not a flat smooth sole but had ridges and waffles all along the edges. Not exactly artisanal craftsmanship. Its fine, but you get what you pay for. I get all my shirts made by J.Hilburn, same story. Takes a few tries and a few dollars to get it right. Up to the individual to decide what works for budget and quality.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому +4

      For $600, it is what it is. Certainly not close to the level of what comes out of England.

    • @gregorythomas2674
      @gregorythomas2674 3 роки тому

      @@kirbyallison You are right Kirby! An affordable option to consider that allows an affordable level of "bespoke" with perhaps a few concessions. Informative video and keep up the great work! 👍

    • @affanmobile1974
      @affanmobile1974 3 роки тому +2

      @@kirbyallison hi Kirby, great review! While I'm sure you get more for your money at double the price from an English shoemaker, do you think it is twice as valuable though? What I'm trying to understand is that by paying a hefty premium(double the $600) what will I be getting more, besides heritage value? Thanks😀

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому +2

      @@affanmobile1974 I'm broadly with you affan. If money was no issue then I would go full bespoke, with in-person fittings I would fly to etc. But so long as money is a factor (and these are still not 'cheap' shoes), I'm okay with some slightly spotty precision work on areas of the shoes that nobody will notice anyway, if it's less than a third / a quarter / a tenth of the price of better shoes. I'll take 10 pairs of 95% perfect shoes over one pair of 100% perfect shoes for the same price.

  • @lyonhadid3508
    @lyonhadid3508 3 роки тому +3

    Try winson shoemaker from Indonesia!

    • @gemasboy
      @gemasboy 3 роки тому

      Ard they expensive ?

  • @cfcreative1
    @cfcreative1 3 роки тому +11

    At this point if there is a chance you can spend a dollar in your own country it is important to do that.

  • @christianoliver3572
    @christianoliver3572 3 роки тому +3

    Hasn't it always been the case with Hong Kong that you could get Savile Row quality at Neiman Marcus prices? What I mean is that yes a vacation there was expensive but if you had your clothes made there you got an exceptional product at a 'better' price. Defiantly
    not a cheap price but a better price. Now my only experience with this is before Hong Kong went back to the Chinese but I think you know what I mean. Of course now because of the Internet travel is not necessary to buy these things. Anyway thanks for this video & y'all stay healthy and safe up there in Big D.

    • @hyong-qc3ss
      @hyong-qc3ss 2 роки тому

      Hong kong would never return to the British again, in your life time, dream on

    • @christianoliver3572
      @christianoliver3572 2 роки тому

      @@hyong-qc3ss I do not suggest it will.
      I merely stated that when I visited there it was not under Communist China rule yet.
      True it has some autonomy but I can't imagine that it is the same to either visit or to live there.

  • @olivergibson6107
    @olivergibson6107 3 роки тому

    What last are these on?

  • @TheAltair236
    @TheAltair236 3 роки тому

    Are there other great brands in singapore?

    • @gemasboy
      @gemasboy 3 роки тому +1

      JoshLeong bespoke shoes. A different class above Yeossal

    • @mskorkoss
      @mskorkoss 3 роки тому

      Collaro for clothing

  • @rickypyun
    @rickypyun 2 роки тому +4

    They're no longer $600...

  • @artlayton1425
    @artlayton1425 3 роки тому

    I went to the yeossal web site for details about ordering. There was an option for several types of lasts. Can you explain the difference between types of lasts?

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому

      I'd reach out to them directly about that.

  • @It_swill
    @It_swill 3 роки тому +10

    Acme Shoemaker, Gordan JimJun Shoemaker, and even Wayman Bespoke have excellent craftsman from China! Yeossal is a really nice quality, especially their customisable clothing. 👞

    • @allenwinston9225
      @allenwinston9225 3 роки тому +2

      No Chinese Goods

    • @It_swill
      @It_swill 3 роки тому +4

      @@allenwinston9225, and that's totally fine! I understand why many would not want Chinese products, especially now, and with things such as low wages and their government. However, today, Chinese craftsman can be very talented, possibly up to par with the Japanese. Products made in China don't have to be associated with poor quality.😁

    • @allenwinston9225
      @allenwinston9225 3 роки тому +2

      @@It_swill thank you. I know some Chinese craftsman are excellent at there craft. I have background in art and design. Are you in the fashion industry of handmade goods. One of my goals is create sartorial districts in US. Top shelf goods made locally. In the US we do not have an alteir workshops or apprentice programs that can make fine goods. When I was a toddler there existed local cobblers, tailors, seamstress, shirt makers, hat makers, watch makers and jewelers. These crafts are the essential fabric of society. If are all ways looking for the lowest price goods it if is a race to the bottom. Where we become slaves to the master of corporatism or government officials for rations. The expression of dress and civil gesture as whole is gone. Let's just go to work in a t shirt in jeans. My grandfather was a master painter artisan from Sweden. He painted classical murals in hotels, churches, government halls along with building a regular guilding painting and paper hanging work. Get this he would leave the house with the finest clothes go to work and change into a serious of workmen's scmocks and coverings while wearing a shirt the underneath.
      The human craftsmanship can be replaced by a machine energetically.

    • @It_swill
      @It_swill 3 роки тому +1

      @@allenwinston9225, no I'm not in the fashion industry, I'm just a student who is passionate about classic menswear. I am aware that the US has lost the art of American shoemaking, tailoring, etc, outsourcing the work overseas.
      I am studying architectural design and studying fashion on the side actually. Could I learn more from you since you said you have a background in art and design? Your goal of creating sartorial districts in the US sounds like a vision I wanted to do someday! 🙂

    • @allenwinston9225
      @allenwinston9225 3 роки тому +1

      @@It_swill I am an architect urban planner developer. Trained in the original Bauhaus school of IIT. In this program where classical architectural cannons washes drawing and technical drawing all by hand. I specialize catalyst development of post industrial towns places. Many lower economic inner city areas have and underground economy in fashion industry. Problem is getting proper training and small business loans. These crafts are not recognized by banking systems.

  • @panaceiasuberes6464
    @panaceiasuberes6464 3 роки тому +12

    Kirby Allison: Very excited to review those hand-welted shows out of China
    Shoemakers all across the West: Cringing in front of the screen watching this video.

    • @Iiiakaiii
      @Iiiakaiii 3 роки тому

      Yeossal made huge effort these time to convert all of these little bitches around the world.
      It's more like a add for the polo shirt because who can believe that a Xibao (China) shoe would be as good as a real handwelted shoe ?

  • @endautrestermes
    @endautrestermes 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the great content. Their offering is very appealing but, since you asked, I will share my opinion on that concept. I was watching your video about Lobb, and it struck me. The history of Lobb was driven by ambitious passionate men that started from scratch, built and refined their skills through decades of experiences in the search for excellence. This offering is really the result of an investment in acquiring craft and putting them in to an efficient process in order to create margin by exploiting lower labour costs worldwide. That sad result from global capitalism really degrades the value of real historic craftsmen in the eye of the general public. One approach is about passion and excellence, the other is about process and margin. I'm not a hypocrite, I know that nowadays it is nearly impossible for people including me to avoid made in china stuff, but I find that "holly grails" such as hand welt needs to stay what it is : a holly grail, the ultimate pinnacle for the well-dressed and, most importantly, a craft that should be treasured, perpetuated through time rather than being subject to that kind of unfair nouveau riche competition. I would be very interested in knowing your opinion on that, although I am very aware that this may be very polarizing, I believe it is important to have that kind of discussion when we are passionate about traditional clothing,

    • @ninjadudeofficial
      @ninjadudeofficial 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly it's an issue I think about all too often. So many brands using exported production to cut labour costs, if they're being cut how can I really feel confident that whoever is making this stuff is being fairly compensated? But as you say, that's global capitalism for you. If only people realised the solution will involve a lot more than just punishing those who export/import goods from these countries.

    • @monkeypawism
      @monkeypawism 3 роки тому

      But what if the Yeosal guys are actually into making shoes and tailoring?

    • @endautrestermes
      @endautrestermes 3 роки тому +2

      @@monkeypawism they are in their own way: Singapore investors using Chinese labour ;)

    • @endautrestermes
      @endautrestermes 3 роки тому +1

      @@ninjadudeofficial Quite right on your last sentence, that is the essence of my comment.

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому +1

      My understanding is that they cut most of their own clothing in house except for a few things they carry from other brands - which seem to be noted in the product names. But they outsource their MTO shoe production to China (they also carry some ready to wear Mallorca shoes - again clearly identified in the product names). Although there hasn't been strict confirmation, it is pretty much accepted that the supplier for Yeossal MTO shoes is a maker who is relatively well known to shoe aficionados, and whom it is possible to order from directly, provided you can order in Mandarin. The prices there are similiar, though of course Yeossal have their own margin - which indicates that the maker is receiving compensation that is not exploitative. I also think Yeossal's margin is justified at least to anyone wanting to order in English, plus anyone who might be unsure of sizing, since even MTO shoes are returnable for an 80% refund, which is pretty great risk mitigation compared to most MTO offerings.

  • @user-vo4um6xz3m
    @user-vo4um6xz3m 3 роки тому

    TGC shoesmaker

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      From my experience, if these were from TCG, then TCG really reserves their best stuff for Yeossal. Yeossal's offerings are several rungs above the rest of TCG's range.

  • @meettinaanddave1402
    @meettinaanddave1402 3 роки тому +5

    Nice video presentation. Sharp looking shoes. You are right Kirby, the Chinese have mastered the re-engineering process. Some of the better and smarter Chinese companies purchase original products then dissect it to get a master pattern, then reproduce “copies”. There are two types of “Made In China” products - one is for the localized market (cheaply made products from inferior materials) the other are industry standard exports (what we buy in stores). Its the old western guard that still has the mentality that made in China is bad. Manufacturing in China is a very big part of the world’s economy, touching every corner of the globe, especially the luxury brands. Many high-end European brands manufacture their products in China. I know, I consulted with many of them. Open you wife’s luxury handbag, where does the inside tag state its manufactured? Chances are China. No all are, but plenty are and they try concealing it the best they can. With regards to shoe manufacturing shifting into China, its already here. Has been for awhile. Its just now getting noticed as menswear is popular and men’s shoes are trending everywhere. In my experience, when a Chinese factory is up to western standards and pays close attention to quality control that factory (and business’s bottom line) does exceptionally well. Just because its made in China doesn’t necessarily make it cheap or inferior to its peer group. Remember China has 5,000 years of history and has been making shoes for a very long time. If a Chinese company is using localized material for shoes then it may give reason for further investigation or even concern for quality levels. There are plenty of shoe companies here (in China) doing just that and the quality is very poor and the pride of craftsmanship isn’t there too. However..., there are great manufacturers in China who source marterial from abroad (mostly Europe) and have exceptional craftsmanship with 3 and 4 generations of shoe makers. I have an advantage over most of you, I live here and visit factories often. I do spot checks and pay particularly close to detail. Quality control is a must. All that being said, today’s China is a lot different than when your parents were growing up. For what its worth, I’m completing my due diligence on a few Chinese companies to manufacture my shoes. Having boots on the ground has its advantages. Keep up the good work Kirby. Enjoy!

  • @quentinjackson40
    @quentinjackson40 3 роки тому

    kirby's the kinda guy that "enjoys" shirts.

  • @vicentegregorio6476
    @vicentegregorio6476 3 роки тому +1

    Nice odd outfit in this video!

  • @renji32100
    @renji32100 3 роки тому

    The shoes are made in Singapore not China

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому +1

      Yeossal's tailoring is made in Singapore (except for a few things they sell that are not their own brand - but those are clearly identified as such), but their shoes are outsourced and made in China. It's speculated that the maker is known - and you can order directly from them if that's correct (as long as you can communicate in Mandarin), but yeah their own-branded shoes are made in China. Great shoes nevertheless - I have one with two more on the way.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому

      Yeah. I'm quite certain the shoes are made in China.

  • @Snugglez187
    @Snugglez187 2 роки тому

    Singapore is not in China. It's a country.

  • @skw6659
    @skw6659 3 роки тому +1

    the manufacturer is TGC

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      The maker is broadly considered to have been identified, and it is not TGC by any stretch.

  • @Leman.Russ.6thLegion
    @Leman.Russ.6thLegion 3 роки тому +2

    Ummmm.
    Singapore is not China xD
    Taiwan is REAL china.

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому +3

      While Yeossal is a brand based in Singapore, the shoes themselves are hand sewn in China..

    • @Leman.Russ.6thLegion
      @Leman.Russ.6thLegion 3 роки тому

      @@kirbyallison great channel!

    • @user-vo9vz5hn4v
      @user-vo9vz5hn4v 3 роки тому

      Yes Taiwan is a province of China 🇨🇳

    • @Leman.Russ.6thLegion
      @Leman.Russ.6thLegion 3 роки тому

      @@user-vo9vz5hn4v china is not a legitimate country. Taiwan is where you find real china.

  • @davegball
    @davegball Рік тому

    It's pronounced "Yo Sul".

  • @animeboitiddies6146
    @animeboitiddies6146 3 роки тому +3

    >china
    no

  • @teenoso4069
    @teenoso4069 3 роки тому +4

    Yeossal are out of Singapore, but I expect these are Chinese made. I have trousers from them. Nice. Good customer service, but got hit with sales tax and Fedex charges. Good review. Interested to hear how they wear over next 6-months

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      The shoes are Chinese (except their TLB Mallorca ready to wear range of course, which are obviously out of Spain), but I believe their tailoring is done in Singapore.

  • @arashmalekzadeh1
    @arashmalekzadeh1 3 роки тому +1

    Fraction of a price of some of the other big names in the industry? Im not sure if you know what fraction means but i don't think this cost fraction of brands likeJohn Lobb, Crockett&jones Pierre Corthay and so on. I wish in the beginning of each video you could tell us who pays you or who doesn't to talk about their brands.

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      These cost about a quarter to a third of what a pair of John Lobb cost, and are (at least arguably) a higher quality product given that they are hand welted. I would think that calling that a 'fraction of the price' is reasonable...

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      Also at the start he stated that the pair of shoes was a customer purchase, but they threw in a a polo shirt and a jar of polish (which Kirby himself sells), so I doubt he was bought off for the sake of $150 of merchandise.

  • @donone7686
    @donone7686 3 роки тому +3

    made in china no thanks

    • @ProdigalExplorer
      @ProdigalExplorer 3 роки тому +3

      Ok boomer

    • @RacksonRacksonRibss
      @RacksonRacksonRibss 3 роки тому

      @@ProdigalExplorer It’s not boomer to say no thanks to made in China.
      If anything it’s boomer to buy something where the maker was not paid a living wage... smh. -Millennial

    • @ProdigalExplorer
      @ProdigalExplorer 3 роки тому

      @@RacksonRacksonRibss If you refuse to benefit from the economy that your country supports, then by all means. I don't have that luxury.

    • @lost5587
      @lost5587 Рік тому

      ​@@RacksonRacksonRibss china's wage is one of the highest in Asia. You gotta leave your mums basement and touch grass once in a while buddy...

  • @Rattlerbrand
    @Rattlerbrand 2 роки тому

    if I can help it I don't fund the Chinese if at all possible

  • @calebmalinowski7183
    @calebmalinowski7183 3 роки тому +15

    These comments are almost comical considering almost every one of y’all owns Nike’s, a Smart phone, or a hundred other household items made in Asia.

    • @affanmobile1974
      @affanmobile1974 3 роки тому +2

      😂 True that!

    • @TheBassAngler1
      @TheBassAngler1 3 роки тому +1

      Try 99% of what they buy. And it isn’t getting fixed because they don’t buy a niche pair of shoes. Ask if they want to pay 10x the price for ordinary items and watch how fast they love China.

    • @RacksonRacksonRibss
      @RacksonRacksonRibss 3 роки тому

      @@TheBassAngler1 I like to pay more bc I know they’re getting a living wage. Probably 80%+ of my wardrobe is made in USA or England bc I appreciate a living wage.
      Maybe in the minority but the argument to your logic is annoying af for people who actually practice what they preach like myself.
      You must first roll a snowball to create a snowman. Everyone isn’t going to make a living wage overnight.
      And just bc a person owns *some* (or many) products made in Asia doesn’t make them a hypocrite and invalidate their opinion. If I could buy a phone that wasn’t made in Asia I would.

  • @MauricXe
    @MauricXe 3 роки тому +2

    Meermin exported Spanish shoe making to China with good results. Although they aren't the best shoes out there, they are a good value for the price.
    The difference with Yessol is they are an eastern company with chinese production. Competition can only be a good thing for consumers. although I don't think we will see hand made shoes lose their mystique, I imagine traditional firms will have to evolve and adopt cheaper RTW alternatives....or be prepared to sell their brand or declare bankruptcy.
    The shoe snob in me isn't a fan. I have a snobbish gut reaction to the things that I admire losing their exclusivity. Will the masses truly appreciate stitch density or the workmanship of a bevelled waste? Probably not.

    • @ninjadudeofficial
      @ninjadudeofficial 3 роки тому

      I really don't see how exclusivity is more of an issue than people being exploited for their labour on scales that make it far cheaper for companies to export production halfway across the world and half thing shipped to several different places before it gets to the customer but sure. And 'the masses' barely even go up to the level of brands such as allen edmonds anyway, so don't worry too much about the exclusivity. Or even better, be like Kirby and share your passion with other people in order to attempt to spread that appreciation, tends to bring even more enjoyment in my experience.

    • @MauricXe
      @MauricXe 3 роки тому

      @@ninjadudeofficial thank you for your irrelevant critique on what you find exploitive. Since we are on irrelevant topics, are you going to bring up wasteful production is destroying the environment, or maybe we can talk about taxes, or military spending.....whatever since we are talking about random things.

    • @ninjadudeofficial
      @ninjadudeofficial 3 роки тому

      @@MauricXe in a different context I would, but it wasn't completely irrelevant. Good to know you missed my point.

    • @MauricXe
      @MauricXe 3 роки тому

      @@ninjadudeofficial lol at wasn't COMPLETELY irrelevant. What an odd reply. Save your commentary for a different video...or as you say, a different context.

  • @travisl9201
    @travisl9201 3 роки тому +5

    Kirby is selling out

    • @kirbyallison
      @kirbyallison  3 роки тому +8

      Lol. No. Just thought these would be interesting to cover. I’m certainly. It endorsing them.

  • @martinc2944
    @martinc2944 3 роки тому +10

    People out here really thinking child labour can produce works that take years of artisanal training to make. One word: Ignorance!

    • @aaronsung6208
      @aaronsung6208 3 роки тому +2

      Base on what evidence did you infer that they are made by children? Thats true ignorance for you to make conclusion for your shallowed xenophobic impression of china.

    • @martinc2944
      @martinc2944 3 роки тому +5

      @@aaronsung6208 My friend, you misread my comment

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 3 роки тому

      Probably not due to child labour, but political and ethical reasons. Personally I wouldn't give a dime to furthering the economy of a totalitarian dictatorship. Would you still buy products made in Germany during the reign of the Nazis knowing the atrocities they commit?

    • @martinc2944
      @martinc2944 3 роки тому +2

      @@Jim58223 Not gonna get into a political discussion on this video. But even if you don't like the Chinese government, it's no reason to boycott an ordinary shoemaker with no ties to the government. A shoe is a shoe and I appreciate Kirby for making an objective review.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 3 роки тому

      @@martinc2944 But what you're doing right now is exactly getting into a political argument. Most people cant do much to standup to totalitarian regimes besides voting with their wallet. You completely miss the point, it still benefits the economy. It's not just a shoe it's a product. And choosing what you buy from where and who has an impact, it adds up. Much like zero waste. A good quote by Anne-Marie Bonneau about zero waste can apply to this as well, "We don’t need a handful of people doing zero waste perfectly. We need millions of people doing it imperfectly.” It sends a message, people care where there products are produced.

  • @serviceprive
    @serviceprive 2 роки тому

    I DONT SEE YOU WEARING THIS SHOE.. IT IS A NICE LOOKING SHOE BUT NOT FOR A MEN AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF SATORIALISM LIKE YOU.

  • @lizziesangi1602
    @lizziesangi1602 3 роки тому +13

    Shoes from Brazil or Italy, Switzerland or Germany, MAY be?
    Cooper collar - how does it keep it shape after dry cleaning or hand wash ?
    Sorry, don't believe I'll be patronizing ANY thing, a $600 shoe, from China? If I really appreciate the quality of craftsmanship, it won't be from China.

    • @mayhemboutdatlife4607
      @mayhemboutdatlife4607 3 роки тому +4

      So ignorant. Lol

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      These are a lot higher quality than, for example, a pair of American made Allen Edmonds. I have pairs of both and it's night and day between them (and I still like my AE's just fine for the entry level GYW shoes that they are)>
      For your other question - my one piece collars have held up find through washing over the last year or so. I only have them on polos though, so can't speak to other fabrics.

  • @Kanoemirate
    @Kanoemirate 3 роки тому +1

    🤭 There is a BREXIT anxiety in the comments, now that China can make Hand welted Split toe Derby

  • @crisyorke1328
    @crisyorke1328 3 роки тому +2

    Made in China, no way!

  • @Wawalsh1234
    @Wawalsh1234 3 роки тому +14

    Kirby, I have to agree with most of these comments that anything from China after the way they hid the Coronavirus is off limits for me. Likely child labor or at the very least, paying the worker .50 cents to make this pair doesn’t sit well with me.

    • @iamsheep
      @iamsheep 3 роки тому +7

      Wow the ignorance is amazing. “His the coronavirus? You’re making it sound like If the outbreak occurred in the USA, it wouldn’t become a pandemic. The US lost control of a virus months after it became a pandemic. Also, wages in China are now one of the highest in Asia, which is why manufacturing is slowly leaving China.

    • @kurjan1
      @kurjan1 3 роки тому +1

      @@iamsheep I have lived and invested in China over the past 15 years or so... He is pretty spot on.

    • @iamsheep
      @iamsheep 3 роки тому

      @@kurjan1 um ok....the anecdote. You win.

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому +1

      @@iamsheep The idea that these shoes could be made using child labor is pretty laughable.

    • @iamsheep
      @iamsheep 3 роки тому

      @@James-rq9qb yeah the ignorance is dazzling. Some people are still stuck in 1995

  • @dirkwashington5632
    @dirkwashington5632 3 роки тому +2

    Stop SMACKING YOUR LIPS

  • @aaronsung6208
    @aaronsung6208 3 роки тому +14

    A video endorsing a great value chinese made shoes, exposed so many xenophobic viewers.
    If you like 4000$ english bespoke shoes for their history and small marginal quality, go for it. But, to feel inferior by hating chinese made shoes? Thats just deformed insecurity! No bespoked suit or shoes can hide that uglyness inside of your repelling soul!
    When they critize the shoe, they don't point out any detail thats poorly made (i found noun), they are only hating the race of its maker. And this is not even a knockoff as it didnt fake any brand or steal patterned technology.

    • @aaronsung6208
      @aaronsung6208 3 роки тому +1

      Regurgitating sight that those so called gentlement revealing their true color of being racist hypocrits.

    • @ninjadudeofficial
      @ninjadudeofficial 3 роки тому +3

      I just wonder how many of these comments saying they'll endorse nothing out of China were made on samsung or apple devices. How many people have owned shirts, t shirts, common household appliances made in China or other Eastern countries abused by massive corporations for lower production costs. And sure I got issues with the CCP (though state-controlled capitalism and communism are 2 vastly different systems) but that actual quality of many of these products is damn impressive, and something hand made at this level does require genuine skill (if less than a shoe of say 4-6x the price, but the amount you're getting for that jump? Other than ethics, these and similar products are a fantastic deal)
      Just ignorance really. Complaining about the wrong issues.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 3 роки тому +3

      Or they do not want to give their hard earned money to furthering a totalitarian dictatorship's economy and power when there are alternative products from free democratic nations. Not everything is about race, don't automatically assume people avoid Chinese products because they are racist, I buy lot's of stuff from Taiwan, Japan, SK and a lot of other ASEAN countries. It's purely ethical and political. Would you buy products made in Nazi Germany knowing the atrocities they committed? Maybe most will still continue to do so, as a lot of people aren't privileged enough to have the money to pick and choose what they buy, but people in developed western countries who are well off enough to buy niche stuff like high end shoes sure do have the option.

    • @ninjadudeofficial
      @ninjadudeofficial 3 роки тому

      @@Jim58223 they didn't even say everyone, they just said many of the comments are exposing xenophobic views. Yes some of the people may just be trying to let their wallet do the talking (and they may be hypocritical in this but doesn't stop them being well-intentioned) but that doesn't change that there are people, including by the looks of it some who watched this video, who attempt to boycott and complain about China for racist or at least nonsense reasons

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 3 роки тому

      @@ninjadudeofficial Can you point me to such comments? Because most of the ones I've seen have been saying they boycott for political reasons. But if there are such comments please report them or call them out. Thanks.

  • @Jim58223
    @Jim58223 3 роки тому +19

    I'm gonna have to pass on these. Nothing about the quality, I just don't buy Chinese products. Also for this price you could buy a quality Carmina shoe that is made in Spain.
    Edit: To all the people saying those who boycott Chinese products/are saying to do so are only doing it because they are xenophobic and not for political or ethical reasons I ask you this. Would any of these comments have been made if these were made in Taiwan by a Taiwanese company (Taiwan being majority ethnically Chinese). Or if these were made in Singapore, I think not. So you're claim of xenophobia is false.

    • @aaronsung6208
      @aaronsung6208 3 роки тому +6

      Most of electronics and half of the home goods are made in china, i dont believe you dont buy chinese made products.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 3 роки тому +1

      @@aaronsung6208 I did use to buy them before (years ago), but it isn't difficult to learn to avoid them. There are a lot of resources I use, such as reddit r/avoidchineseproducts and websites made to find alternatives to Chinese made products. As well as checking UPC codes (beginning with 690-695 are made in China, 489 is Hong Kong). I can list them if you would like to also use them. Also just buying local or second hand is another way to avoid them, and it has the benefit of being more environmentally friendly. Of course you can't avoid them 100% because it's very hard to find where every single internal component or part is made. It is much easier to do so for high end handmade goods like shoes. But the less Chinese components it contains the better. You also realize Taiwan, SK, Japan, India and multiple other countries produce a lot of electronic goods and home goods? You probably assumed I'm just another guy saying don't buy chinese, but not practicing what I preach, but I'm heavily involved in this and have been doing it for years. And I don't expect you to believe me, as I have no need to prove to you that I do avoid buying Chinese goods, because you most likely still will not believe me.
      List of sites (Most of these are for Products made in Canada because I'm Canadian, but the other 3 are for country of origin and UPC codes):
      www.productfrom.com
      madeinca.ca
      www.madeinmooseland.ca
      www.mcmaster.com
      www.madeincanadadirectory.ca
      www.nationwidebarcode.com/upc-country-codes/
      www.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/

    • @monkeypawism
      @monkeypawism 3 роки тому

      I own Carmina's - they are shite too.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 3 роки тому

      @@monkeypawism Did you get butthurt when I said I don't buy chinese products? I'm so sorry, are you gonna cry? It's okay you can cry to your supreme leader Xinnie the Pooh. Carmina's are one of the best at this price point, clearly you've never owned a pair. Nice try.

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому +2

      Yeossal is significantly better than the likes of Carmina and Allen Edmonds etc. I own each of them, and by no means do I mean to be disparaging Carmina or AE, both of which I enjoy to wear just fine - but there is night and day between the quality.

  • @monstersfromtheid9372
    @monstersfromtheid9372 3 роки тому +17

    Love everything about this channel, but won't be watching anything from China being promoted....see you next time.

    • @alexanderstark9142
      @alexanderstark9142 3 роки тому

      I wouldn’t skip solely because they are made in China. Just because 99% of Chinese products are awful trash doesn’t mean that the other 1% isn’t quality. Have you heard of the company The Armoury? They are based in Hong Kong and their quality and craftsmanship is unparalleled to other OTR companies, they even have 2 stores in NY

  • @rovercoupe7104
    @rovercoupe7104 3 роки тому +12

    No thanks, propping up a police state is not my thing. M.

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому +4

      This is why I have boycotted Allen Edmonds.

  • @TheRacerRich
    @TheRacerRich 3 роки тому +5

    Quality, craftsmanship, and tradition, all faithfully executed, in pursuit of Uyghur Genocide and imprisoning people for trying to leave and disbarring their lawyers for daring to represent them in court.

    • @ninjadudeofficial
      @ninjadudeofficial 3 роки тому

      Have Yeossal been shown to have some of their production in those factories in Xinjiang? Not saying abusing lower wage and condition standards in another country in order to offer more competitive prices is ever ethical but just curious since last I checked those practices have been happening steadily for even longer than the more recent atrocities committed against Uyghurs

    • @robertthorn9560
      @robertthorn9560 3 роки тому +1

      CCP IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW!

    • @karlenglewood8940
      @karlenglewood8940 3 роки тому +2

      @@ninjadudeofficial The problems is that all business in China is owned by the CCP directly or by proxy. So even if the owner or the factory as a whole is genuine, the money they make would wind up in the hands of the CCP in one way or another.

    • @monkeypawism
      @monkeypawism 3 роки тому

      @@karlenglewood8940 Taxes are a bitch in any country.

  • @anonymousonlineuser6543
    @anonymousonlineuser6543 3 роки тому +3

    For about 600Eur I can have handwelted shoes from number of European cobblers instead of supporting endless Chinese copycatting. Let Chinese come up with their own unique designs and conquer shoe market not by emulating but actually adding some originality and value for a change.

    • @gemasboy
      @gemasboy 3 роки тому

      I’m looking for other handwelted brands around the €600 price point. Which European Brand’s can you recommend?

    • @karlenglewood8940
      @karlenglewood8940 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@gemasboy Heinrich Dinkelacker, check it out. TLB Mallorca maybe, but I can't confirm if they are hand welted as my pair is still being made.

    • @gemasboy
      @gemasboy 3 роки тому

      @@karlenglewood8940 thank you

  • @karlenglewood8940
    @karlenglewood8940 3 роки тому +3

    Sorry Mr. Allison, love your channel, but I would rather pay the extra $200 to avoid state sponsored genocide.

    • @James-rq9qb
      @James-rq9qb 3 роки тому

      $200? For a shoe at the same quality point you're talking another $1200 to $1800, not $200.

    • @lost5587
      @lost5587 Рік тому

      Yea like the US genocidial activities in the middle east. I'd pay 400 to avoid that

  • @Justmyopinionlol
    @Justmyopinionlol 3 роки тому +2

    I would buy good shoes from Indonesia, Vietnam, or Japan anywhere but from China. Your unpatriotic support for Chinese products is a shame. Please move to Oregon and stop calling yourself a Texan.

    • @unknown81360
      @unknown81360 3 роки тому +3

      I can almost guarantee you that you made this comment using a product made in China.

  • @ChipsChallenge95
    @ChipsChallenge95 3 роки тому +2

    China = No

  • @bfelinemaximus
    @bfelinemaximus 3 роки тому +1

    You can keep your made in China shoes.

  • @jamesward5493
    @jamesward5493 3 роки тому +1

    From China , no thank you.