I have become so obsessed with Jordan Peterson I just binge his videos and lectures constantly. It has changed my life in so many dimensions I can't even describe it with words. I wish I could shake your hand and thank you JP! keep up the incredible work!
Outside of psychology, take him with a grain of salt. I've listened to him go on about spirals in ancient art and talk about them possibly knowing DNA form and stuff like that. He gets pretty fanciful sometimes.
Whoever is doing these video descriptions etc: I think it would be great if you linked Klavan (and all other guest) works and books and social medias in these videos. Unless I'm missing something, I think you generally don't? I will regularly click down and look for a book etc only to find I have to google separately. Not a terrible thing, but it would probably boost networking and growth on all sides (audience, Jordan, and guest)
For them to actually link works, they must agree to it first right? That requires auditing the content before linking it down below. Which seem quite tedious and unthought of. Buti believe that itd be nice.
The trilogy , The 3 Body problem , The Dark Forest and Death’s End are the 3 greatest books ever written in my opinion. Books on a level i’ve never experienced before or since.
If the tri solarans could manipulate an atom to contract or expand to any size. A conquering of a potentially equivalent enemy is stupidity. Use the atoms to make a stellar engine and direct one or two of the stars away and create a stable orbit around a single star. The whole arc is flawed.
@@aaronmurry6014 But it is not any size. The proton (sophon) exists only in 11 dimensions (based on the string theory), so there are limitations. Read the books more carefully to grasp the details.
@kaptech YES the point being it would've taken less effort and brought less scrutiny to build 1 or 2 stellar engines. With the tear ans siphon tech a thin webbing around a star to redirect away from tri solarus choice of stellar home. The project would've taken less time with less risk.
Little correction : the end of the distinction between the supralunar and infralunar worlds is attributed to Galileo, who discovered that the moon had "mountains and valleys" (we'd call them craters today), which indicated that the moon was made of the same stuff than the earth and had the same laws. he then introduced the concept of "universe" in physics (the latins and greeks would use other words like cosmos) which means "one law", as in the laws of physics are the same everywhere.
As a practising Baha'i, I fully believe in the unity of both science and religion, without which, a series of open doors to corruption permmiate. This discussion has successfully come to the same conclusion. Bravo!
Jordan Peterson nails it. Virtually all people are affected by bias. And nowhere is it more obvious than with scientists and the most highly educated in all disciplines.
There is a great book called, Mistakes were made (but not by me). It talks about how we use cognitive dissonance to justify the gap between truth and our delusion.
Watched the Netflix version of Three Body Problem and loved it. Found an Asian version on Peacock streaming service with 30 episodes that is fantastic too.
A further take of 3 body problem is exposing The inevitable 4th and 5th ... body and difficulty of precise calculation predicting three(3) body equation for a galactic view of an emergent all body entanglement caused by the gravitational field
@@madelynfreeman4116 so... r/k selection one is more like frogs and reptiles and lizards and one is like people with fewer kids they actually take care of. to me something like the Mardi gras baccanalia cascadia crete is perpetuating dark triad frog pond chaos built in.. the low socio economic status and epigenetics actually promote the distal locus of control or too much openness and too much neuroticism and a lack of parts to be conscientious which would go right along with low socioeconomic status as the best predictor of liberalism wealth disparity means everyone is a dem but then we have to change the definition of conservative and alienate daddy warbucks and cause tucker to consider the bolshevixks and kulacks and where he stands. 3rd generation immigrant that is more normalized and so called egalitarianism might be thought of as trying to exit the reptile zone and enter the mammalian one but there's obviously a problem with urbanization leading to fewer kids so we have a continuity and demographics issue and the macro implications are troubling to say the least. 2050 doesn't care what color you are no ones got a continuity plan for your genetic if you don't be mean to live I guess? so everyone's stock and fodder for an unfeeling uncaring "progress" lot of hail mary passes from the silver tide... stuff like brics is anticipating this it's what davos and the wef types have been talking about and not preventing. segue into the age of Aquarius and the wanton abomination that is avatar movie slaps the 2 path prophecy in the face by merging them... all seems a bit jupiter ascending minus any real aliens... all seems like living out gilgamesh the gods must be crazy prometheus... and the vessel to deliver us is the self fulfilling prophecy of abrahamics living out the stages of pagan zorastrianism as religions unto themselves... see mario brothers save the princess but oops she's possessed and oops mario is possessed... Mars vs Venus effectively hades is in both the way we act so... holy wars.... ya I don't think the pyramids are for evolution buddy... it's desensitized by being called animal farm for a reason human 1.0 would be a first 1.5 is evolution or progress? nah. a hellish regressive alleged 1.0 is what you get going for 1.5 and thats why we still build towers to the heavens and try to outsmart the punishments of God and be immortal super soldiers.... elysium? halo? star trek? a little More than stratified and saturnian... this is morals and dogma from pike or zbigniew brzezinski how do people carry water they dont drink for davos and yell freedom at the same time?
@@madelynfreeman4116 it's not a race lol funny ra would be mars and si simourgh would be Venus... ish... more.... ishtar aster Stella lucene ira cybelle Ga Gaia MaGa hathor gaw pagh kaw libera Maia Magna matter of material girl fame... demeter mithra roll eyes... so look the idea of race must be some golem or djin tulpa egregore like in the way Santa is for Christmas the closest thing to science tulpa I can think of is Christmas or maybe to batootsi genocide? how many licks Granma told me what a tootsie roll was....
@@madelynfreeman4116 right so I don't believe in the hegelian dialectic per say... I do see trauma bonding from triangulation and the accepting of an introject when you are told "They" hate you.... ok.. that's not no fancy thesis antithesis synthesis.. calling the process of Stockholm syndrome something else is gaslighting that's "hey let's you and him go fight" in transactional analysis life games... good luck with evolution buddy 👍
Curiously, while i disagree with J. Peterson on a lot of things, as a scientist myself, i completely agree with his assessment of scientific establishment. I saw way too much of that mindset, i would even say it is dominating science in this country and maybe elsewhere.
What is it you disagree with and why? Curious on these subjects. Nobody completely agrees on subject matters but on a lot of things, I’d be interested in hearing what and why.
Oh too many things to count. Global warming, transgender people, the idea that ancient symbol of intertwined snakes represents intuitive knowledge of DNA structure.. And so on.
[sidles up to you eagerly, eyes all a-twinkle] Then might I ask, have you heard of Rupert Sheldrake's The Science Delusion? No shit; that lecture blew my mind as much as marijuana edibles.
This had very little to do with the Three Body Problem, the book or the math problem. They're talking about fear of the unknown, Jaws would have been a better segue.
They did a click bait They have plenty to talk about I don't understand why they do this I feel like my time is been wasted by people why say my time is valuable they've stopped educating and have resorted the preaching I getting tired of it
@@notnow1639I feel that a lot of UA-camrs are doing this more and more. Sensational titles “the final warning” or “this is terminal” or scare tactics to get you to watch. The worst of which is Tom Bileu. He rehashes old videos and releases them to look like new. I don’t watch any of his videos anymore. It’s a betrayal of sorts. I know that sounds strange but it’s how I feel
So much of society and Humanity covered in this video. Fantastic. Edit: All of my academic interest has been in understanding why theories have a ‘best fit’ model, rather than a unifying fit model. And all of my data even in undergrad is into original data, which countermanded established ideas and models.. much to the chagrin of my professors.. I know first hand just how astoundingly stubborn academia is, as it’s run like a business not a school, and incentivises Group Think.
SIMPLE and lack of its value is so well described in this video. One of the issues of the world today is very similar. AKA Written swords and their meaning too fits a single line of thinking...... Just like other rules/truths of science/nature, as well follow a single line across the board. Today too many take WORDS and how they are strung together and claim their meaning only in a way to further a career, agenda, personal belief etc as a daily way to use words of the past to support something today. No straight line...... just a wiggles that conclude a truth, as they see fit. Where in the best practice is taking WORDS and how they are strung together along with, history of time it was written, history of the writer and society of that day, and from this a determined, via logical path of how that all strings together, to determine the inner Ethos of whole text, etc.. From this then discover a text of words for their full real INTENDED meaning. (aka the truth). This way when one does express intentionally the Ethos of a whole document in support of something..... then they expressing so, with a great level of TRUTH. Real truth paints a straight line between other truths.... no a fuzzy line that hits sometimes and not others (similar to the two sets of rules of physics, as is discussed in this video), IMHO part of today's failure to seek the REAL and deep truth is because we have hammered KISS (keep it simple stupid) sooooo damn hard....... people avoid all the analysis above and are completely FINE with others ignoring it too. It is to a point that folk ACCEPT "simple" analysis.... to actually hold great "cemented "meaning. While others ASSUME other parties are doing a complex analysis for them ...... when in fact..... they are not. Human's avoid difficult (complex) things. A mindset of deep analysis avoidance, allows for miss truths to form....... As well..... Manipulators usurp human's avoidance of difficult/complex thinking as a manipulation tool. They promote SIMPLE because they know "simple thinking minds" greatly opens a door for easier manipulation. Manipulating Fuzzy/simplicity to a particular end, compared to manipulating COMPLEX analysis that entails larger number of individual elements that point then to a conclusion of a more cemented truth , is not so easy a task to bring to a particular "desired" end. Discussion in this video is of the same issue , just in the scientific "studies" realm... aka the line between the truths... are in line with each other.....
An interesting conjecture at the end. What alternatives might explain the challenge facing the enterpise? Might not the scaffolding of the current model preclude pursuit of alternates which may have viable answers?
When I started college, I was told that to succeed I needed to publish papers. To publish papers I needed to find statistically significant results. However I calculated those, whatever I calculated those results to be, just find something. That was in 2014.
So, science cannot exist without "honesty", "morality", the concept of "truth and right and wrong", and the belief that we're great enough to be able to find truth. *AND WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE THANKS FOR RELIGIOUS VIEWS,* mostly Judeo-Christian views. Without those, the temptation of lying and ignoring truth, FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT, will prevent us from performing science and slow if not stop our scientific advancement. WOW!
@@chrisanthemum7 Maybe by not paying and promoting scientists based on results that you want but instead by the work that was being done on that project even if it doesn't lead to a desired conclusion. Companies would hardly do this because they need results to make money. Governments funding Universities could absolutely incentivise truthseeking (not with people in positions of power that have an agenda). If the people that influence the money flow to scientists have an agenda then these scientists are incentivised to lie and therefore, many of them will lie. Also, the public needs access to all raw data that Universities work with (they are payed by taxpayers anyways). Then, the public can more easily factcheck scientists. Also, it is important to have widespread media platforms that allow free discussions. If one side of the argument always gets shadowbanned, banned or falsly "fact-checked" then the public is being lied to. If the argument of one side is strong enough, then there is no need to silence the opponent. The first side just needs to dismantle the other with the better argument (which it should have if it so believes to be right). Any listener with a brain will then agree that one argument dismantles the other, if it does. By silencing others, the first side admits to it's arguments not being stronger than that of the opponent and therefore more likely actually being wrong. One can't stop the owners of media companies from having an agenda and from wanting to use their platform to push it. Sure, some regulations could be made. But they might not even be necessary. A free mareket also solves that problem. Meaning, it helps if there are alternatives and if the public knows what it's getting from who. Open source code as well as decentralized fact-checking like on X certainly help with trust. It might take some time. At some point even the general public realises about which topics it is being lied to in which way from which platform, resulting in people switching to platforms that inform about these topics with a better trackrecord. Not of course, if these topics are meaningless or not politically motivated, then nobody cares. Might as well watch these on a platform that censors other topics. Getting agenda driven missinformation results in (political) believes that aren't grounded in reality results in thinking and acting according to these believes results in things not working the way one wants to or turning out the way one wants them to turn out due to the decisions being based on a flawed belief system and that results in misery, poverty, bad health and so on. One can stay in that misery or start building a believe system grounded in reality by challenging existing and new believes by listening to the arguments on all sides (that might require different platforms) until the evidence/ argument of one side turns out supreme. Ultimately, it is everyone's responsability to do so about important topics. Not doing so gets punished by other people installing believes that benefit not the person but them resulting in the person's life likely becoming miserable.
Wow. Nice to see those observing variables related to the special relativity application of personal entanglement onto forming and measurable reality, producing what can only be a non-objective experience by nature of non-quantification of the empirical participation level. Love both of these guys and looking forward to sitting down with Jordan one day. May duality be kind to him as he explores and expands into a more singularity-minded nature.
"This appearing of the thing in traversing a field of opposedness takes place within an open region, the openness of which is not first created by the presenting but rather is only entered into and taken over as a domain of relatedness. This relation of the presentative statement to the thing is the accomplishment of that bearing with originally and always comes to prevail as a comportment. But all comportment is distinguished by the fact that, standing in the open region, it adheres to something opened up as such. What is thus opened up, solely in this strict sense, was experienced early in Western thinking as "what is present" and for a long time has been named "being". Comportment stands open to beings. Every open relatedness is a comportment. Man's open stance varies depending on the kind of beings and the way of comportment. All working and achieving, and action and calculation, keep within an open region within which beings, with regard to what they are and how they are, can properly take their stand and become capable of being said. This can occur only if beings present themselves along with the presentative statement so that the latter subordinates itself to the directive that it speak of beings such-as they are. Speech that directs itself accordingly is correct (true). What is thus said is the correct (the true). A statement is invested with its correctness by the openness of a comportment; for only through the latter can what is opened up really become the standard for the presentative correspondence. Open comportment must let itself by assigned this standard. This means that it must take over a pregiven standard for all presenting. This belongs to the openness of comportment. But if the correctness (truth) of statements becomes possible only through this openness of comportment, then what first makes correctness possible must with more original right be taken as the essence of truth. Thus the traditional assignment of truth exclusively to statements as the sole essential locus of truth falls away. Truth does not originally lie in the proposition. But that the same time the question arises as to the ground of the inner possibility of the open comportment that pregives a standard, which possibility alone lends to propositional correctness the appearance of fulfilling the essence of truth at all." Heidegger, "On the Essence of Truth", section 2. Prompted by Jordan's point about what the would be scientist can find if oriented on truth as a standard above his activity stemming from the matter itself, vs what will happen as soon as that focus shifts to careerist advancement or any similar ancilliary goal (the wrong comportment, in the above sense). Not to bury the lede too much, but the immediately following section arrives as the formula that "the essence of truth is freedom".
For your all videosMr. peterson, you r so unique person You are a unique person with your personal life experience. You can also give guidance to the creator
Reading Tolstoy’s Resurrection this afternoon almost at the end and he mentions the ‘three body problem’ never heard of it till then, did not google it but low and behold this video appears this evening on UA-cam. Now Carl Jung called this synchronicity…..I call it spooky!!
But it's exciting too, isn't it? I have been doing an experiment for quite a while now, of letting myself believe that those synchronicities are evidence of some supermaterial intelligence giving my perceptions a little poke, telling me, 'Pay attention to that'. The result has been that, more and more and more of them have happened over the years. They keep being positive, and _funny!_ and I have literally fallen in love with whoever is sending me these signals. Muse, angel, daemon, whatever. It's like learning a foreign language through trial and error. Takes a while, but the results are so rewarding!
@AlexReynard i agree as well and it was what actually sparked my faith. I was a cringy reddit type athiest for the first 25 years of my life, then i started telling people i was giing to do things in regards to my business, things that would put me in the top .01% of earners in my age group. People looked at me like i was crazy, then suddenly the things I sought were delivered to me. I slowly started to use the same trick with every aspect of my life, health, relationships, knowledge and so on. God is smiling upon us my friend.
@@chazzbranigaan9354 I don't think mine's God. I gave God a fair try, but he seems wholly uninterested in me. That's fair. I get the sense that I'm allied with his adversary. But not in an 'eternal cosmic war' sense, more like two very good chess players. God controls reality, and she controls time & consciousness. And I get the sense that, life is largely a game built to determine which mortal souls are better suited to serve one side or another. Both are valid, and have plenty of good points in their favor. Would you rather spend your afterlife serving a higher purpose in a loving community, or exploring vast realms of imagination as an individual?
@AlexReynard I think you can conceptualize a higher power in many ways, and I certainly don't follow anywhere near the churches definition either. I do also believe it's a sort of infinite intelligence, that consciousness between all beings exists on a sort of plane, that as a singular human we are currently tuned into 1 frequency of, and many things from that plane come to manifest in the material world. The most simple form of this is an idea, where do they come from? As to your afterlife question, I am not sure.
@@chazzbranigaan9354 My basis is in seeing how, in nature, so often there's pairs of balanced opposites. Two opposing forces that push against each other, and in this eternal competition, balance is achieved. I figured maybe the pattern repeats in the macro level, and if there's one supercolossal consciousness, then likely there's at least one other. My thought is that, time/consciousness/chaos/possibility is a vast ocean outside the bounds of material reality. Reality is within it, like if something could cause ocean water to crystallize into an immense frozen latticework. That's cause and effect freezing moments of time into an internally-consistent history. So when we die, our souls will either go back to the endless free-flowing ocean of time, or we can reincarnate and keep helping the structure of reality to remain solid. Like how a steady playerbase keeps an MMORPG going online. That's my best guess, at its most basic. There's probably all sorts of exceptions and glitches and edge cases that are also possible.
Some things are simply to complex for us to understand at this juncture. The likelihood is we’ll be long gone before they ever are. More blue sky thinking and humility from scientists would therefore be welcome, but none of this should stop them trying.
There appears to be some confusion in video and the comments about what the Tree Body Problem actually is. In classical Newtonian physics it is a special case of the n-body problem. The two body problem takes two masses as point objects that orbit each other in space and calculates their subsequent trajectories using Newton's laws of motion and Newton's law of universal gravitation. This has an exact solution. When a third (or more) bodies are added, there is no exact mathematical solution. The resulting system is chaotic for most initial conditions. Because there are no solvable equations for most three-body systems, the only way to predict the motions of the bodies is to estimate them using numerical methods. The first specific three-body problem to receive extended study was the one involving the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun.
When I was getting my degree I was frustrated by my observation that an overwhelming majority of all the research that I came across was "safe", either confirming or going just a micrometer beyond someone else's conclusions. Very rarely do you find researchers who take a risk and uncover something entirely novel and I think this is both for the reasons Jordan suggested and the fact that many researchers don't want to waste their time
It’s like the study of spaces timelesness, subconscious existence, or physical determination of outcomes and measurable possibilities, or studying geo magnetics, and Un observable frequencies rhythms/waves. Plus how does that correlate to what existence were actually creating outside or within all of that. But fundamentally maybe a truth to combine it in “knowing” already what creates all of it in a loving form of all thing making life and consciousness out of love.
I commend this person for his excellent pronunciation of Mandarin and Latin. He clearly has a brilliant mind, i can focus on that and not on his pants :-)
0:48 Wrong!!! In fact, you can lay out the logos or abstract principles in a form of a system of differential equations. What you cannot do is to make long term predictions of the behavior of the three bodies, because the system is sensitive to the initial conditions. This happens because in order to be able to predict, you do not only have to use 'the logos', that is, the laws in a form of system of differential equations, but you also have to be able to specify the initial conditions to the infinite decimal place. Obviously, no human or computer can do that.
The point about career focus bleeding into how scientists may perceive data is interesting. I feel this is everywhere, and mostly down to being egocentric, which is probably cultural. I would love to see if career focus is different cross culturally.
Saying the three body problem is unsolved betrays that you don't understand mechanics at all. We can calculate n-body problem with quite high precision using numerical methods. The fact that we don't have an analytical solution does not mean it is unsolvable. In fact, it's the kind of problem that is easy to solve as it is an ODE.
@@leewright7623 i know, they didnt really talk about aliens. I commented before i watched the clip because i know what the three body problem book series/shows are about
Sooooo maybe i interpreted this wing. Please correct me if i did. The takeaway synopsis of this short video is something like "the best science is conducted with the understanding that God exists, and that knowledge tempers the honest brokerage of statistical science...". I think i can agree with that. The search for truth must be done with an open heart AND mind, which one cannot to if they are worried about career...
The three-body problem can be solved numerically (using computer too slow via humans and uses newton’s theory of motion) and also when can scientists say quantum mechanics and relativity can’t be reconciled and or solved for in another way?
Feynman said that the first rule of science is not to fool anyone, and that you, yourself, are the easiest person to fool. This is exactly what Jordan is talking about with statistics. When you see a correlation that fits your biases, you stop looking for contradictory evidence if you ever were. If you are seeking truth you should continually test your assumptions and look for things that may prove you wrong.
I remember some physicists reported that something went faster than the speed of light, and later it was revealed it was just the amount of measurement error their equipment had...
Check out Lex Fridman's interview with Donald Hoffman, about how the evolution of the mind arrived at space-time as a useful interface to a reality that is probably not really space-time.
Newton, a believer, wrote Principia Mathematica while a teacher at Trinity College. He became an “occasionalist” stating that God moved the universe on the occasion of physical co- incidence.
I like this. This is appropriate. The Trinity of God doesn't, actually abandon her creatures, here, antithetically. The Spirit of Divinity is universal. We can rise to this ineffable source and substance of Love, by not refusing God.
Why should unity be without contradictions? Unity is the essence of contradiction because it means that the two poles of a battery for example together make the battery. When the sum of things is together more than the single parts, the same goes for paradoxes. What if your 2 poles are designed to form the battery because of the differential of both paradoxes.
I don't see this as any different than when speedrunners _really, really want_ a certain glitch to be possible, so the whole community spends decades hammering away at smaller and smaller exploits in the game's mechanics, until finally, one day, someone makes a TAS where, yes, you can noclip through the door straight to the end chamber. This is just scientists doing the same thing when they want there to be unity in their as-yet-vastly-incomplete understanding of the universe.
I would like to see Jordan Peterson would have Chris Langan on. The man who supposedly has the highest IQ in the world. He was quoted as saying he would debate any academic on any subject anywhere. That would be an interesting conversation.Chris Langan has spoken extensively on this subject.
Maybe, those that have their ego completely in check, can see more clearly the possibilities. Our idea of a creator may be missing the mark; in the sense that it is singular. There is no self there; rather a collective of sorts.
The scientists and academics who manipulate their research to align it with their hypotheses for self-serving purposes will eventually get caught. This is much less the case in the natural sciences than in the social sciences, but one scandal can easily delegitimize an entire career.
I worked in a lab in which the lab tech told me of a Professor she used to work for who would do things like squeeze hard when doing biopsies on mice and claim the drugs used caused it, possibly sidelining cancer drugs, for the sake of competing with the drug makers...and that woman ended up in one of the highest government science roles the country had. We all sat in symposium and watched as a cheater researcher put obvious photoshop results of DNA blocks in a gel (too rectangular, too perfect) and had the tails on the sides pointing the wrong way for which way the gel was allegedly run... nobody was loud about it. It was kind of quietly brought up and quietly put aside for later and we sat there and listened to the guy.
"If Jung’s hypothesis is true…" That’s a big if! Jung can be misleading. You missed the chance to dig into the three-body problem because you didn’t fully engage with your guest’s points.
The Buddha summerizes the 3 body problem ... that merges physics with the metaphysical *"Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth"*
Interestingly, at one time, it is likely that water did not disperse white light into its colors. It is also likely that at one time yeast probably wasn’t present in the air. Certainly would not have a great effect to see a bow in the sky, even in a constant mist. The juice, made for drinking, surprisingly turned into alcohol was likely new after the flood. It is likely that the properties of elements were probably altered by the creator, properties that changed our perception of our world and how its laws changed. Perhaps how mankind time was shortened to 120 years. A great much is inferred about water.
Remembrance of Earth's Past is as sci-fi as Star Trek or Star Wars. Liu's understanding of scientific concepts are similar to Terrance Howard. He can correctly put the words in the right places, but makes little to no sense. e.g Radio waves are real, Solar oscillation is real, Radio waves creating solar oscillation is sci-fi. IMO the show did a way better job of addressing these things, as most of the random scientific concepts were removed for entertainment purposes.
He said they need to have a religious orientation. Or they need to be oreinted toward something higher than seeking their own self-promotion. In other words, they need to be constantly trying to allign themselves with the truth, not with whatever benefits them personally.
The Three body problem as I see it is when the viel is removed, we don't lose the hand of God, we SEE the hand of God and that is what scrambles our brain with uncomprehention of reality.
I was reading a book on anti gravity last night.
I found it quite difficult to put down.
Sounds very uplifting
"Zero Point Energy" is a classic.
That's funny, I was reading a book about gravity last night. Really heavy material.
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I love a good pun! Especially about gravity. They don't suck
I have become so obsessed with Jordan Peterson I just binge his videos and lectures constantly. It has changed my life in so many dimensions I can't even describe it with words. I wish I could shake your hand and thank you JP! keep up the incredible work!
Soooo good!
I’m sure you’ve seen the 2017 Maps of Meaning lecture series?
Some of the best.
Outside of psychology, take him with a grain of salt. I've listened to him go on about spirals in ancient art and talk about them possibly knowing DNA form and stuff like that. He gets pretty fanciful sometimes.
Whoever is doing these video descriptions etc:
I think it would be great if you linked Klavan (and all other guest) works and books and social medias in these videos. Unless I'm missing something, I think you generally don't? I will regularly click down and look for a book etc only to find I have to google separately. Not a terrible thing, but it would probably boost networking and growth on all sides (audience, Jordan, and guest)
Agree. Feels disingenuous like they are just trying to keep you to his stuff only.
it's pretty easy to look up his name on google though.
@carsonhunt4642 i don't think it's intentional, just takes a lot of extra work that somebody may not have considered doing yet.
For them to actually link works, they must agree to it first right? That requires auditing the content before linking it down below. Which seem quite tedious and unthought of. Buti believe that itd be nice.
@@alindileep9227 _"Wanna plug something? Sure, here's the link"_
Not exactly what anyone reasonable would call an "audit"...
The trilogy , The 3 Body problem , The Dark Forest and Death’s End are the 3 greatest books ever written in my opinion. Books on a level i’ve never experienced before or since.
Never thought we'd have a JBP 3 body problem reference
If the tri solarans could manipulate an atom to contract or expand to any size. A conquering of a potentially equivalent enemy is stupidity. Use the atoms to make a stellar engine and direct one or two of the stars away and create a stable orbit around a single star. The whole arc is flawed.
@@aaronmurry6014 But it is not any size. The proton (sophon) exists only in 11 dimensions (based on the string theory), so there are limitations. Read the books more carefully to grasp the details.
@kaptech YES the point being it would've taken less effort and brought less scrutiny to build 1 or 2 stellar engines. With the tear ans siphon tech a thin webbing around a star to redirect away from tri solarus choice of stellar home. The project would've taken less time with less risk.
Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, voltaire, etc... good books yeah, best ever written, far from it.
Love this book series, loved to see you talkong about it.
Very intriguing conversation.
Little correction : the end of the distinction between the supralunar and infralunar worlds is attributed to Galileo, who discovered that the moon had "mountains and valleys" (we'd call them craters today), which indicated that the moon was made of the same stuff than the earth and had the same laws. he then introduced the concept of "universe" in physics (the latins and greeks would use other words like cosmos) which means "one law", as in the laws of physics are the same everywhere.
And Kepler broke the idea that the heavenly bodies move in circular "perfect" motion. So the three of them together really did it.
Or it's a musical term. "Uni verse". One verse. The song we all sing; the music that animates all things.
The One Piece, if you will. ;)
@AlexReynard except, it's not a musical term. But that is a cool synchronicity
@@alecpitts6843 Writing has taught me that, if you can make up a term that puts an idea in someone else's head, it counts. ;)
As a practising Baha'i, I fully believe in the unity of both science and religion, without which, a series of open doors to corruption permmiate. This discussion has successfully come to the same conclusion. Bravo!
I swear I'm not stupid but sometimes what Jordan says goes over my head.
Fantastic clip. Thank you both.👍
Greetings from Oslo, Dr Peterson ❤
I LOOOOOOVE that you’re talking with Spencer klavan. He is so brilliant!!
Jordan Peterson nails it. Virtually all people are affected by bias. And nowhere is it more obvious than with scientists and the most highly educated in all disciplines.
Seems pretty obvious. Bias could also be linked to a natural subconscious defense mechanism.
There is a great book called, Mistakes were made (but not by me). It talks about how we use cognitive dissonance to justify the gap between truth and our delusion.
@@edlofts247 thank you I’ll check it out.
Robert Anton Wilson summed it up pretty nicely in Prometheus Rising: “Whatever the Thinker thinks, the Prover proves.”
@@EddieBogart 🎯
Hey Jordan! Thanks for your videos. When is your Gospel series being released? Thanks!
Watched the Netflix version of Three Body Problem and loved it. Found an Asian version on Peacock streaming service with 30 episodes that is fantastic too.
There is no way in hell im watching any film interpretation of this series. First novel is my fav so far..
The British version was AWFUL. So woke.
Translation: "my monkey brain can't read, must see picture that is presented to me."
@@wreagfe what sort of pathetic comment is that?
@@mbeckford The Netflix series is quite mediocre and is like 10% of the depth of the books.
A further take of 3 body problem is exposing The inevitable 4th and 5th ... body and difficulty of precise calculation predicting three(3) body equation for a galactic view of an emergent all body entanglement caused by the gravitational field
So precisely and perfectly articulated by Jordan Peterson 🎉 truth shall set us free ...
. . and freedom is dangerous. You might discover truths that are, uncomfortable. This might require introspection & growth.
@@mornbar1 I agree, but without introspection and growth, the human race may never evolve ...
@@madelynfreeman4116 so...
r/k selection
one is more like frogs and reptiles and lizards and one is like people with fewer kids they actually take care of.
to me something like the Mardi gras baccanalia cascadia crete is perpetuating dark triad
frog pond chaos built in..
the low socio economic status and epigenetics actually promote the distal locus of control or too much openness and too much neuroticism and a lack of parts to be conscientious which would go right along with low socioeconomic status as the best predictor of liberalism
wealth disparity means everyone is a dem but then we have to change the definition of conservative and alienate daddy warbucks and cause tucker to consider the bolshevixks and kulacks and where he stands.
3rd generation immigrant that is more normalized and so called egalitarianism might be thought of as trying to exit the reptile zone and enter the mammalian one but there's obviously a problem with urbanization leading to fewer kids so we have a continuity and demographics issue and the macro implications are troubling to say the least.
2050 doesn't care what color you are
no ones got a continuity plan for your genetic if you don't be mean to live I guess?
so everyone's stock and fodder for an unfeeling uncaring "progress"
lot of hail mary passes from the silver tide... stuff like brics is anticipating this
it's what davos and the wef types have been talking about and not preventing.
segue into the age of Aquarius and the wanton abomination that is avatar movie
slaps the 2 path prophecy in the face by merging them...
all seems a bit jupiter ascending minus any real aliens...
all seems like living out gilgamesh
the gods must be crazy
prometheus...
and the vessel to deliver us is the self fulfilling prophecy of abrahamics living out the stages of pagan zorastrianism as religions unto themselves...
see mario brothers
save the princess but oops she's possessed
and oops mario is possessed...
Mars vs Venus
effectively hades is in both the way we act
so... holy wars....
ya I don't think the pyramids are for evolution buddy...
it's desensitized by being called animal farm for a reason
human 1.0 would be a first
1.5 is evolution or progress?
nah.
a hellish regressive alleged 1.0 is what you get going for 1.5 and thats why we still build towers to the heavens and try to outsmart the punishments of God and be immortal super soldiers....
elysium?
halo?
star trek?
a little More than stratified and saturnian...
this is morals and dogma from pike
or zbigniew brzezinski
how do people carry water they dont drink for davos and yell freedom at the same time?
@@madelynfreeman4116 it's not a race lol
funny ra would be mars and si simourgh would be Venus... ish... more.... ishtar aster Stella lucene ira cybelle Ga Gaia MaGa hathor gaw pagh kaw libera Maia Magna matter of material girl fame... demeter mithra
roll eyes...
so look the idea of race must be some golem or djin tulpa egregore
like in the way Santa is for Christmas
the closest thing to science tulpa I can think of is Christmas
or maybe to batootsi genocide?
how many licks
Granma told me what a tootsie roll was....
@@madelynfreeman4116 right so I don't believe in the hegelian dialectic per say...
I do see trauma bonding from triangulation and the accepting of an introject when you are told "They" hate you....
ok.. that's not no fancy thesis antithesis synthesis..
calling the process of Stockholm syndrome something else is gaslighting
that's "hey let's you and him go fight" in transactional analysis life games...
good luck with evolution buddy 👍
I'm so glad he pronounced 'Principia' properly
Curiously, while i disagree with J. Peterson on a lot of things, as a scientist myself, i completely agree with his assessment of scientific establishment. I saw way too much of that mindset, i would even say it is dominating science in this country and maybe elsewhere.
What is it you disagree with and why? Curious on these subjects. Nobody completely agrees on subject matters but on a lot of things, I’d be interested in hearing what and why.
Oh too many things to count. Global warming, transgender people, the idea that ancient symbol of intertwined snakes represents intuitive knowledge of DNA structure.. And so on.
I'll bet a million... you're a redditor and not in anyway, a scientist 😅 but yes
? You just lost a million then
[sidles up to you eagerly, eyes all a-twinkle] Then might I ask, have you heard of Rupert Sheldrake's The Science Delusion?
No shit; that lecture blew my mind as much as marijuana edibles.
Always spot on , so true.
This had very little to do with the Three Body Problem, the book or the math problem. They're talking about fear of the unknown, Jaws would have been a better segue.
It had to do with the philosophy and the theme of the unknown.
They did a click bait
They have plenty to talk about
I don't understand why they do this I feel like my time is been wasted by people why say my time is valuable they've stopped educating and have resorted the preaching I getting tired of it
@@notnow1639I feel that a lot of UA-camrs are doing this more and more. Sensational titles “the final warning” or “this is terminal” or scare tactics to get you to watch. The worst of which is Tom Bileu. He rehashes old videos and releases them to look like new. I don’t watch any of his videos anymore. It’s a betrayal of sorts. I know that sounds strange but it’s how I feel
@@dajusta87when? At least compared to the books.
There is a lot more interesting stuff in the books to disect than,...., how do scientists work.
that's because it's being used as a metaphor
So INSIGHTFUL! 👏👏👏
So much of society and Humanity covered in this video. Fantastic.
Edit: All of my academic interest has been in understanding why theories have a ‘best fit’ model, rather than a unifying fit model. And all of my data even in undergrad is into original data, which countermanded established ideas and models.. much to the chagrin of my professors.. I know first hand just how astoundingly stubborn academia is, as it’s run like a business not a school, and incentivises Group Think.
SIMPLE and lack of its value is so well described in this video.
One of the issues of the world today is very similar. AKA Written swords and their meaning too fits a single line of thinking...... Just like other rules/truths of science/nature, as well follow a single line across the board. Today too many take WORDS and how they are strung together and claim their meaning only in a way to further a career, agenda, personal belief etc as a daily way to use words of the past to support something today. No straight line...... just a wiggles that conclude a truth, as they see fit.
Where in the best practice is taking WORDS and how they are strung together along with, history of time it was written, history of the writer and society of that day, and from this a determined, via logical path of how that all strings together, to determine the inner Ethos of whole text, etc.. From this then discover a text of words for their full real INTENDED meaning. (aka the truth). This way when one does express intentionally the Ethos of a whole document in support of something..... then they expressing so, with a great level of TRUTH. Real truth paints a straight line between other truths.... no a fuzzy line that hits sometimes and not others (similar to the two sets of rules of physics, as is discussed in this video),
IMHO part of today's failure to seek the REAL and deep truth is because we have hammered KISS (keep it simple stupid) sooooo damn hard....... people avoid all the analysis above and are completely FINE with others ignoring it too. It is to a point that folk ACCEPT "simple" analysis.... to actually hold great "cemented "meaning. While others ASSUME other parties are doing a complex analysis for them ...... when in fact..... they are not. Human's avoid difficult (complex) things. A mindset of deep analysis avoidance, allows for miss truths to form....... As well..... Manipulators usurp human's avoidance of difficult/complex thinking as a manipulation tool. They promote SIMPLE because they know "simple thinking minds" greatly opens a door for easier manipulation. Manipulating Fuzzy/simplicity to a particular end, compared to manipulating COMPLEX analysis that entails larger number of individual elements that point then to a conclusion of a more cemented truth , is not so easy a task to bring to a particular "desired" end.
Discussion in this video is of the same issue , just in the scientific "studies" realm... aka the line between the truths... are in line with each other.....
Jordan Peterson is doing theoretical physics!!!!!
Let's go!!!
An interesting conjecture at the end. What alternatives might explain the challenge facing the enterpise? Might not the scaffolding of the current model preclude pursuit of alternates which may have viable answers?
When I started college, I was told that to succeed I needed to publish papers. To publish papers I needed to find statistically significant results. However I calculated those, whatever I calculated those results to be, just find something. That was in 2014.
Huh?
So, science cannot exist without "honesty", "morality", the concept of "truth and right and wrong", and the belief that we're great enough to be able to find truth. *AND WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE THANKS FOR RELIGIOUS VIEWS,* mostly Judeo-Christian views. Without those, the temptation of lying and ignoring truth, FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT, will prevent us from performing science and slow if not stop our scientific advancement. WOW!
Right? I find that patently absurd. Religious dogma ..
@@cliffordchase319Scientism= religious dogma
you put that so well, yes thats exactly it!
How else can science be conducted without a commitment to truth and integrity?
@@chrisanthemum7 Maybe by not paying and promoting scientists based on results that you want but instead by the work that was being done on that project even if it doesn't lead to a desired conclusion.
Companies would hardly do this because they need results to make money.
Governments funding Universities could absolutely incentivise truthseeking (not with people in positions of power that have an agenda).
If the people that influence the money flow to scientists have an agenda then these scientists are incentivised to lie and therefore, many of them will lie.
Also, the public needs access to all raw data that Universities work with (they are payed by taxpayers anyways). Then, the public can more easily factcheck scientists.
Also, it is important to have widespread media platforms that allow free discussions. If one side of the argument always gets shadowbanned, banned or falsly "fact-checked" then the public is being lied to. If the argument of one side is strong enough, then there is no need to silence the opponent. The first side just needs to dismantle the other with the better argument (which it should have if it so believes to be right). Any listener with a brain will then agree that one argument dismantles the other, if it does. By silencing others, the first side admits to it's arguments not being stronger than that of the opponent and therefore more likely actually being wrong.
One can't stop the owners of media companies from having an agenda and from wanting to use their platform to push it. Sure, some regulations could be made. But they might not even be necessary. A free mareket also solves that problem. Meaning, it helps if there are alternatives and if the public knows what it's getting from who. Open source code as well as decentralized fact-checking like on X certainly help with trust. It might take some time. At some point even the general public realises about which topics it is being lied to in which way from which platform, resulting in people switching to platforms that inform about these topics with a better trackrecord. Not of course, if these topics are meaningless or not politically motivated, then nobody cares. Might as well watch these on a platform that censors other topics.
Getting agenda driven missinformation results in (political) believes that aren't grounded in reality results in thinking and acting according to these believes results in things not working the way one wants to or turning out the way one wants them to turn out due to the decisions being based on a flawed belief system and that results in misery, poverty, bad health and so on.
One can stay in that misery or start building a believe system grounded in reality by challenging existing and new believes by listening to the arguments on all sides (that might require different platforms) until the evidence/ argument of one side turns out supreme.
Ultimately, it is everyone's responsability to do so about important topics. Not doing so gets punished by other people installing believes that benefit not the person but them resulting in the person's life likely becoming miserable.
Wow. Nice to see those observing variables related to the special relativity application of personal entanglement onto forming and measurable reality, producing what can only be a non-objective experience by nature of non-quantification of the empirical participation level. Love both of these guys and looking forward to sitting down with Jordan one day. May duality be kind to him as he explores and expands into a more singularity-minded nature.
Excellent trilogy of books.
You need to interview Christopher Langan
"This appearing of the thing in traversing a field of opposedness takes place within an open region, the openness of which is not first created by the presenting but rather is only entered into and taken over as a domain of relatedness. This relation of the presentative statement to the thing is the accomplishment of that bearing with originally and always comes to prevail as a comportment. But all comportment is distinguished by the fact that, standing in the open region, it adheres to something opened up as such. What is thus opened up, solely in this strict sense, was experienced early in Western thinking as "what is present" and for a long time has been named "being".
Comportment stands open to beings. Every open relatedness is a comportment. Man's open stance varies depending on the kind of beings and the way of comportment. All working and achieving, and action and calculation, keep within an open region within which beings, with regard to what they are and how they are, can properly take their stand and become capable of being said. This can occur only if beings present themselves along with the presentative statement so that the latter subordinates itself to the directive that it speak of beings such-as they are. Speech that directs itself accordingly is correct (true). What is thus said is the correct (the true).
A statement is invested with its correctness by the openness of a comportment; for only through the latter can what is opened up really become the standard for the presentative correspondence. Open comportment must let itself by assigned this standard. This means that it must take over a pregiven standard for all presenting. This belongs to the openness of comportment. But if the correctness (truth) of statements becomes possible only through this openness of comportment, then what first makes correctness possible must with more original right be taken as the essence of truth.
Thus the traditional assignment of truth exclusively to statements as the sole essential locus of truth falls away. Truth does not originally lie in the proposition. But that the same time the question arises as to the ground of the inner possibility of the open comportment that pregives a standard, which possibility alone lends to propositional correctness the appearance of fulfilling the essence of truth at all."
Heidegger, "On the Essence of Truth", section 2.
Prompted by Jordan's point about what the would be scientist can find if oriented on truth as a standard above his activity stemming from the matter itself, vs what will happen as soon as that focus shifts to careerist advancement or any similar ancilliary goal (the wrong comportment, in the above sense).
Not to bury the lede too much, but the immediately following section arrives as the formula that "the essence of truth is freedom".
For your all videosMr. peterson, you r so unique person
You are a unique person with your personal life experience.
You can also give guidance to the creator
It was the closing statement 👌
Very, very fascinating 🤔
Does This Have Anything to Do with The Netflix Series 🧐🤷🏻♂️💖
this format really suits me
I wish my brain had valleys and peaks like these two gentlemen. Mine? It's been sand blasted almost completely smooth. 😢
Reading Tolstoy’s Resurrection this afternoon almost at the end and he mentions the ‘three body problem’ never heard of it till then, did not google it but low and behold this video appears this evening on UA-cam. Now Carl Jung called this synchronicity…..I call it spooky!!
But it's exciting too, isn't it? I have been doing an experiment for quite a while now, of letting myself believe that those synchronicities are evidence of some supermaterial intelligence giving my perceptions a little poke, telling me, 'Pay attention to that'. The result has been that, more and more and more of them have happened over the years. They keep being positive, and _funny!_ and I have literally fallen in love with whoever is sending me these signals. Muse, angel, daemon, whatever. It's like learning a foreign language through trial and error. Takes a while, but the results are so rewarding!
@AlexReynard i agree as well and it was what actually sparked my faith. I was a cringy reddit type athiest for the first 25 years of my life, then i started telling people i was giing to do things in regards to my business, things that would put me in the top .01% of earners in my age group. People looked at me like i was crazy, then suddenly the things I sought were delivered to me. I slowly started to use the same trick with every aspect of my life, health, relationships, knowledge and so on.
God is smiling upon us my friend.
@@chazzbranigaan9354 I don't think mine's God. I gave God a fair try, but he seems wholly uninterested in me. That's fair. I get the sense that I'm allied with his adversary. But not in an 'eternal cosmic war' sense, more like two very good chess players. God controls reality, and she controls time & consciousness. And I get the sense that, life is largely a game built to determine which mortal souls are better suited to serve one side or another. Both are valid, and have plenty of good points in their favor. Would you rather spend your afterlife serving a higher purpose in a loving community, or exploring vast realms of imagination as an individual?
@AlexReynard I think you can conceptualize a higher power in many ways, and I certainly don't follow anywhere near the churches definition either. I do also believe it's a sort of infinite intelligence, that consciousness between all beings exists on a sort of plane, that as a singular human we are currently tuned into 1 frequency of, and many things from that plane come to manifest in the material world. The most simple form of this is an idea, where do they come from? As to your afterlife question, I am not sure.
@@chazzbranigaan9354 My basis is in seeing how, in nature, so often there's pairs of balanced opposites. Two opposing forces that push against each other, and in this eternal competition, balance is achieved. I figured maybe the pattern repeats in the macro level, and if there's one supercolossal consciousness, then likely there's at least one other.
My thought is that, time/consciousness/chaos/possibility is a vast ocean outside the bounds of material reality. Reality is within it, like if something could cause ocean water to crystallize into an immense frozen latticework. That's cause and effect freezing moments of time into an internally-consistent history. So when we die, our souls will either go back to the endless free-flowing ocean of time, or we can reincarnate and keep helping the structure of reality to remain solid. Like how a steady playerbase keeps an MMORPG going online. That's my best guess, at its most basic. There's probably all sorts of exceptions and glitches and edge cases that are also possible.
The mirroring here is interesting.
Peterson is correct about bias of scientific research.
Some things are simply to complex for us to understand at this juncture. The likelihood is we’ll be long gone before they ever are. More blue sky thinking and humility from scientists would therefore be welcome, but none of this should stop them trying.
Dr. Peterson, you need to talk to Cory Clark from UPenn about the pursuit of truth (or not) in research!
There appears to be some confusion in video and the comments about what the Tree Body Problem actually is.
In classical Newtonian physics it is a special case of the n-body problem.
The two body problem takes two masses as point objects that orbit each other in space and calculates their subsequent trajectories using Newton's laws of motion and Newton's law of universal gravitation. This has an exact solution.
When a third (or more) bodies are added, there is no exact mathematical solution. The resulting system is chaotic for most initial conditions. Because there are no solvable equations for most three-body systems, the only way to predict the motions of the bodies is to estimate them using numerical methods.
The first specific three-body problem to receive extended study was the one involving the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun.
When I was getting my degree I was frustrated by my observation that an overwhelming majority of all the research that I came across was "safe", either confirming or going just a micrometer beyond someone else's conclusions. Very rarely do you find researchers who take a risk and uncover something entirely novel and I think this is both for the reasons Jordan suggested and the fact that many researchers don't want to waste their time
It’s like the study of spaces timelesness, subconscious existence, or physical determination of outcomes and measurable possibilities, or studying geo magnetics, and Un observable frequencies rhythms/waves. Plus how does that correlate to what existence were actually creating outside or within all of that. But fundamentally maybe a truth to combine it in “knowing” already what creates all of it in a loving form of all thing making life and consciousness out of love.
I commend this person for his excellent pronunciation of Mandarin and Latin. He clearly has a brilliant mind, i can focus on that and not on his pants :-)
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THANK YOU! Finally someone else mentioned it. He needs longer pants.
@Cryharder-r1e amazing observation.
The socks were really what had me hooked.
So, time ends when we have a full understanding of the way things work, and form definitions for them. What's after that?
Timelessness. Eternity. You may be familiar with the common parlance: Heaven.
the credits
I picked up the book series after watching the Netflix show, about half way through the first book!
I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I found the ending disappointing because it was so unoriginal.
"Two's Company, ••••••• °Three's A Crowd !
@5:46 the "I" choir comes out.
"If the hypothesis is true... but I I I I I ."
Good talk until that point of not return.
It is self flattery to think that the universe is governed by comprehensive laws we can understand
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Bravo
0:48 Wrong!!! In fact, you can lay out the logos or abstract principles in a form of a system of differential equations. What you cannot do is to make long term predictions of the behavior of the three bodies, because the system is sensitive to the initial conditions. This happens because in order to be able to predict, you do not only have to use 'the logos', that is, the laws in a form of system of differential equations, but you also have to be able to specify the initial conditions to the infinite decimal place. Obviously, no human or computer can do that.
The famous "Deterministic Non-Periodic Flow" paper from Edward Lorenz, which gave birth to Chaos Theory
This discussion is full of overwhelming levels of casuistry.
really liked this video
The point about career focus bleeding into how scientists may perceive data is interesting. I feel this is everywhere, and mostly down to being egocentric, which is probably cultural. I would love to see if career focus is different cross culturally.
Regarding the conceptual joining of the sublunary and superlunary… couldn’t we credit Giordano Bruno with that, some 100 years before Newton?
you got a new sub!
Saying the three body problem is unsolved betrays that you don't understand mechanics at all. We can calculate n-body problem with quite high precision using numerical methods. The fact that we don't have an analytical solution does not mean it is unsolvable. In fact, it's the kind of problem that is easy to solve as it is an ODE.
JORDAN PETERSON TALKS ABOUT ALIENS!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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" aliens " lol
@@leewright7623 i know, they didnt really talk about aliens. I commented before i watched the clip because i know what the three body problem book series/shows are about
It's hard for humans to comprehend that they can not comprehend something alone. Especially when that which can be perceived can not be understood.
Shrugs, in the books the trisolarans had to sabotage humaity, because they knew, humanity would out science them.
An apt description of the problem of the existence of God.
@@Peter2k84 The tower of Babel.
What is the difference between Justice and revenge
Sooooo maybe i interpreted this wing. Please correct me if i did. The takeaway synopsis of this short video is something like "the best science is conducted with the understanding that God exists, and that knowledge tempers the honest brokerage of statistical science...". I think i can agree with that. The search for truth must be done with an open heart AND mind, which one cannot to if they are worried about career...
The three-body problem can be solved numerically (using computer too slow via humans and uses newton’s theory of motion) and also when can scientists say quantum mechanics and relativity can’t be reconciled and or solved for in another way?
The gravity is the communication (logos)
Feynman said that the first rule of science is not to fool anyone, and that you, yourself, are the easiest person to fool. This is exactly what Jordan is talking about with statistics. When you see a correlation that fits your biases, you stop looking for contradictory evidence if you ever were. If you are seeking truth you should continually test your assumptions and look for things that may prove you wrong.
I remember some physicists reported that something went faster than the speed of light, and later it was revealed it was just the amount of measurement error their equipment had...
The high sock look 😂
Einstein did his best work while working as a clerk in a patent office.
Check out Lex Fridman's interview with Donald Hoffman, about how the evolution of the mind arrived at space-time as a useful interface to a reality that is probably not really space-time.
Newton, a believer, wrote Principia Mathematica while a teacher at Trinity College. He became an “occasionalist” stating that God moved the universe on the occasion of physical co- incidence.
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I like this. This is appropriate. The Trinity of God doesn't, actually abandon her creatures, here, antithetically. The Spirit of Divinity is universal. We can rise to this ineffable source and substance of Love, by not refusing God.
Why should unity be without contradictions? Unity is the essence of contradiction because it means that the two poles of a battery for example together make the battery.
When the sum of things is together more than the single parts, the same goes for paradoxes. What if your 2 poles are designed to form the battery because of the differential of both paradoxes.
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I don't see this as any different than when speedrunners _really, really want_ a certain glitch to be possible, so the whole community spends decades hammering away at smaller and smaller exploits in the game's mechanics, until finally, one day, someone makes a TAS where, yes, you can noclip through the door straight to the end chamber. This is just scientists doing the same thing when they want there to be unity in their as-yet-vastly-incomplete understanding of the universe.
Only a few days ago, "'Islands' of regularity discovered in the famously chaotic three-body problem" was published.
ya it is all about the point of view
oh yeah three body problem will stay with ya (not the netflix version)
But how do you distinguish natural forces pushing something around over angel’s doing the same? It’s an impossibility.
I would like to see Jordan Peterson would have Chris Langan on. The man who supposedly has the highest IQ in the world. He was quoted as saying he would debate any academic on any subject anywhere. That would be an interesting conversation.Chris Langan has spoken extensively on this subject.
Y’all see that new JWST deep field shot?
Speaking of Sci-Fi series, nothing beats DARK.
Maybe, those that have their ego completely in check, can see more clearly the possibilities. Our idea of a creator may be missing the mark; in the sense that it is singular. There is no self there; rather a collective of sorts.
1+1=3 ❤
The scientists and academics who manipulate their research to align it with their hypotheses for self-serving purposes will eventually get caught. This is much less the case in the natural sciences than in the social sciences, but one scandal can easily delegitimize an entire career.
I worked in a lab in which the lab tech told me of a Professor she used to work for who would do things like squeeze hard when doing biopsies on mice and claim the drugs used caused it, possibly sidelining cancer drugs, for the sake of competing with the drug makers...and that woman ended up in one of the highest government science roles the country had.
We all sat in symposium and watched as a cheater researcher put obvious photoshop results of DNA blocks in a gel (too rectangular, too perfect) and had the tails on the sides pointing the wrong way for which way the gel was allegedly run... nobody was loud about it. It was kind of quietly brought up and quietly put aside for later and we sat there and listened to the guy.
8:21 "if you worship Baal..." one of the negative consequences is that you betrayed the spirit...
The x marks the spot. Paradox. Yin and yang. The cross. The intersection between matter and spirit.
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Wouldn't a 2 body system be seen as 1, making a 3 body system?
You cannot see on the outside what you cannot see inside yourself.
Klavan should take up knitting.
Very hard for this guy to get to his point
"If Jung’s hypothesis is true…" That’s a big if! Jung can be misleading. You missed the chance to dig into the three-body problem because you didn’t fully engage with your guest’s points.
The Buddha summerizes the 3 body problem ... that merges physics with the metaphysical *"Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth"*
Interestingly, at one time, it is likely that water did not disperse white light into its colors. It is also likely that at one time yeast probably wasn’t present in the air.
Certainly would not have a great effect to see a bow in the sky, even in a constant mist.
The juice, made for drinking, surprisingly turned into alcohol was likely new after the flood.
It is likely that the properties of elements were probably altered by the creator, properties that changed our perception of our world and how its laws changed. Perhaps how mankind time was shortened to 120 years.
A great much is inferred about water.
Scientific study must be based in morality as everything else must be based in morality.
Remembrance of Earth's Past is as sci-fi as Star Trek or Star Wars.
Liu's understanding of scientific concepts are similar to Terrance Howard.
He can correctly put the words in the right places, but makes little to no sense.
e.g Radio waves are real, Solar oscillation is real, Radio waves creating solar oscillation is sci-fi.
IMO the show did a way better job of addressing these things, as most of the random scientific concepts were removed for entertainment purposes.
So basically Peterson is saying, scientists need to have a foundation in religion in order to conduct worthwhile science.
He said they need to have a religious orientation. Or they need to be oreinted toward something higher than seeking their own self-promotion. In other words, they need to be constantly trying to allign themselves with the truth, not with whatever benefits them personally.
The Three body problem as I see it is when the viel is removed, we don't lose the hand of God, we SEE the hand of God and that is what scrambles our brain with uncomprehention of reality.
We have all been taught the wrong way.