You mean the clarity he has shown for instance in his analyses of the war in Ukraine? Please refer back to his videos and rephrase what you have written. This guy is a joke - a typical product of western education with no understanding of politics or geopolitics, yet constantly parading him self and showing his utter ignorance.
In 1934 my father was in a boys home in London after running away from home back in Liverpool and being caught by the police. One day a officer from the RN turned up and 4 boys were lined up ( including my dad. ). The officer told them they had 2 choices. 1 was stay in the home 2 was join the Navy. My dad was still in when WW ll started .He served until 1946 on many differen destroyers in Nth Atlantic and Mediteranean. Im 71 and i still miss him.
Enter ye in at the strait gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there be who go in thereat. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Kudos to Peterson for asking an old question in an exciting fashion. Kudos to Murrey for given an eloquent response. Never stop asking important questions even if they seem old.
Having good questions is often more valuable than having a set of answers. As Einstein is reported as having said, in the 1930's, he was happy to give the same exam questions two years in a row because the answers had changed!
Glad that Doug mentioned the sixteen year old story. I love watching the "Fat Electricians" channel because he regularly shares the incredible stories of inspiration of those at very young ages going above and beyond just so that they could honorably serve this country. Like Eugene Bullard who himself and father regularly dealt with racism in the south and instead of becoming a victim like his father, He left home at 14, Hopped a ship to join the French foreign legion. Ended up becoming a decorated officer, The first Black pilot there, Owner operator of a successful business that had many historical figures frequent it, and eventually came back to the states after fighting the Nazi's. Victim mentality was once antithetical to what this country stood for. Now it is embraced and promoted.
Oh there’s a bunch of great stuff on his channel. Roy Benavidez too is one of my favorites. And the Marine horse. And any marine story. And Arizona iced tea. And Popeyes chicken.
@@tenderhooligan7580 I'm not a fan of genocide such as what Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas have continuously vowed to do to the Jews either. I'm not a fan of fanatical Islamists. Nor communists. Or any other nasty stench of totalitarianism. But that's just me.
9:14 I find Douglas Murray's grasp reassuring, he doesn't give it a thought that he and Peterson have become giant hero's in the last six years just by being themselves. They are proof that yin- yang is the law of the Universe... bless you gentlemen for your inspiration 🙏
Peterson and Murray are two of the great heroes of our time. The stood firm for truth and free speech under immense pressure and lies from the left in an unrelenting attempt to destroy them. They did so at a time when very few will willing to stand up at the risk of being chopped down. Thank God for all of our sakes these two great men remained courageous in the fire and did not fold like so many do.
European civilization and its development are nothing short of miraculous. For those in the East, such a concept might seem unimaginable; before the Internet, I wouldn’t have believed such a place existed. It must be protected and cherished at all costs.
I think you missed the class where they taught about the planetary civilisations of the East - like the Indian and Chinese. Or perhaps worse, they didn't even teach it.
I am inspired by the word remoralisation. As I have aged, and watching the madness of the ideological forces in the world, I am becoming more and more aware of the absolute benefit as an individual of pushing for remoralisation. I have learned that having a simple life with empathy, sympathy, patience, gratitude, kindness, accountability, responsibility, generosity, strength in the face of adversity, flexibility, tolerance, courage etc.etc. actually gives you great joy about who you are. There is so much adversarial bitterness and intolerance in the world. If I could have any wish for humanity it would be for people to become more self aware and to understand the rewards that come from the positive interconnectedness with the rest of the global community.
Thank you for such a thoughtful and accurate analysis. I, too, picked up on the word remoralise, which to my surprise and edification isn’t the opposite of demoralise when examining the dictionary definition. I like it.
It is true. I have started to govern my life accordingly as well. You make the world a better place by you yourself being a better person and then once you are a better person you make the world around you better. If we all can get back on board with that idea then we have the whole world of people making the world a better place. But it all starts with the remoralization of the self and becoming better.
Subscribed. Jordan Peterson was one of the first voices I heard on YT that gave me hope I wasn't alone in thinking I was isolated versus the forces of Femocracy. And that resistance was possible. Thanks to Doc P! Semper fi!
I saw the Bonhoeffer movie yesterday. I knew the ending but I still almost sobbed. My life has been hard but i haven't had to show that kind of courage. The Lord just asks me to live for him not to die. Less self pity today.
I saw the Bonhoeffer movie last week. It was so informative. My friend who I was with, made reference to the persecution of the jews. I burst out crying as I said, "Its still going on!"
Hi there, you both are the two people I most admire and provide me with so much inspiration to be the best version of myself I can be and to try to impact the world in a positive way. Thank you both and keep fighting the good fight for sanity and humanity.
All this makes perfect sense; what it does not consider: “Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” - Friederich Nietzsche
And nazism was one such insanity. Maybe these extreme left leaning activists really are projecting what they plan on doing. They plan on all these insanities
There is something about living authentically and privately, being true to yourself and the few signifant ones, that escapes those who live in the limelight and the applause of an audience.
Had the pleasure of going to Florence and seeing the statue of David. The time, patience and skill to make a statue with so much detail is astounding especially in this modern age when attention spans are so short. Not sure it could be made by Human Hand today.
My dad and his brothers and scores of men and women, all vets, surrounded my childhood, the Greatest Generation. Most of them were dead when millenials started calling them that but I don't think they would agree. I think they fought and worked and devoted their survival through the 30's and the 40's to us, so we could be the greatest generation. Evil people have turned us all into the Lost Generation that believes it is the Last generation. We have to become heroes, individuals, willing to sacrifice themselves to a lost cause, only to unexpectedly turn the tide. Sometimes it takes a single effort. Sometimes, like me, defeat must be overcome again and again, but the fight must be fought.
Pride is used to refer to the respect for glory, but Pride the sin refers to one's own vanity and hubris. It might be as simple as not praising others, instead honoring their distinction by being thankful while being humble to your own.
@@runswithraptorseverybody is insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that’s not a bad thing. Your outlook is a good one because your significance should really only matter to your family and loved ones. Insignificant to all but significant to them
@@MM-jc7uv really? So you mean to say that all of the notable people of history are insignificant? People argue, fight and kill over things others did and said in the past, obviously what you do matters!
@@runswithraptors in the grand scheme of things yes. If you’re looking at it from the scale of the universe they are meaningless, but even then they will eventually be forgotten/irrelevant as time passes. Even religious figures could be discarded or replaced with new ones as they have been for all of human history, who knows.
Why reinvent the wheel? Promote the good that exists! Those who criticize our world must understand how we got here to appreciate it. Have we no living memories within our families who have experienced the World Wars and it's consequences? It seems those who want to erase history know little of it.
3:10 First time I have heard this. It would be the thesis for every commencement speech forever. It would great freshman classes everywhere. What a concept!
Two people I respect having a powerful discussion. More of this please! And the inane funny shorts and cooking and boating and everything else I watch. Seriously, hope the algorithm sees the like and comment and puts more of this on my TL
If you haven’t already, I encourage you both to watch Jeanine Pirro’s interview with Daniel Penny on Fox Nation and you’ll see a perfect example of a beautiful, moral, young man. It made me cry and feel great love at the same time. It brings into focus the hideous behavior, morals and ignorance of the elite leftists in media and elsewhere who actually criticize and damn this brave young man as they spew the most despicable, conceited condemnations. The young man they condemn represents everything I wish I would be and certainly encourage our children and grandchildren to be throughout life. You won’t regret it.
@@johnmalcolm3116 Mistakes are always repeated as we humans are repetitive in history, so not teaching the future generation ensures a repetition of the past.
@@TomOHare-r4lvoltaire I believe it was stated history is written by the victors, but I think " but it's re-written by bigots and charlatans" needs to be added to this to reflect the modern day.
It never ceases to amaze me how outsiders always complain that Europe has no culture, when Europe has the highest culture because Our Lord Jesus Christ! ❤❤❤
The reason for this is quite simple. It's the same reason why you see so very few incredible film makers and a vast amount of "critics" willing to tear down someone else's work. Because the sheer amount of Talent, Work Ethic, Drive and Commitment you need to be successful at film making is exceedingly rare. Whereas any moron with a keyboard and a tenuous grasp on the language can sit back and critique said film. It is no different when it comes to historical figures. Very few people today could of been Dante Alighieri......or Aristotle....etc. But plenty of people can critique their words or actions from the relative safety of their air-conditioned homes.
Absolutely. The same mentality as a vandal. Creating something takes effort and may be noticed, while destroying it takes little effort and is always noticed. That vandal mind is a truly rotten one and has no place in society.
Listening to a conversation between two individuals about such lofty topics yet so very captivating is fascinating. Sometimes I feel so sophomoric in my thoughts compared to individuals such as these two men.
The pursuit of beauty, knowledge, truth, joy, harmony, peace and happiness should be the only pursuit of all humans. Heaven will then be created on Earth. Yet, some insists on creating Hell.
The young 16 year old Murray references is my Great Uncle’s brother, Tommy Brown. He later died in a house fire in North Shields trying to save his sister’s life. My Great Uncle Stan received his George’s Cross medal at Buckingham Palace after WW2. They didn’t know the significance of his achievement in the war until decades afterwards.
Walked thru a neighborhood yesterday in a Midwest town where not a single resident owned a broom, rake, mower, pruning shears or the motivation to use them.
Talking about expensive art and high trust society, Peterson doesn't know the half of it. Back in the '80s I went to a major gallery in London. There was one famous impressionist painting I wanted to see and I'd read that that gallery had it. (Pretty sure it was "Carnation, Lily, Lily, Rose" - Singer Sargent). I couldn't find it so I asked a curator about it and she said they do have it but it's not currently on display. Come with me. We went down into the basement where 100s of works of art where in racks. She found the priceless work of art and give it me in my hands to look at. "Just put it on the table and come and tell me when you're finished looking at it" she said and went back upstairs. Would that happen today? If not what have we "progressed" to?
Douglas Murray: how fresh, how clear. The genius of valuing simplicity. We are so lucky to have the wisdom which seems second (first?) nature to him. Remember, for God's sake, remember who we are. (were?)
The two leading lights. Classic solution from Douglas - make history, don’t disrupt or problematise it. Contemplate the continuity of the wests historical development, which is unquestionably the greatest culture on earth.
Murray and JP are friends so this interview was cordial. Search for Murray debating at the Monk debates or on programs with antagonists....there is no one better in the world to support Merit, Western virtues, Israel over the usual idiots, etc. he's the best. Being British doesn't hurt.
An inspiring conversation indeed! I think that aspiring to achieve something big and possessing the courage to pursue that aim are attributes that the west must embrace again. The healthy competition and camaraderie such endeavors foster are good for the soul. This may be off somewhat topic, but for instance I played a volunteer logistical and communications role in the American Fighter Aces Association for many years. One of things that that I always admired whenever the aces gathered was the mutual respect and true friendship that the surviving pilots of all combatant nations shared with one another. Whether from America, the Commonwealth, France, Russia, Japan, or Germany and the rest of the Axis these men would gather in a restaurant, a pub or around the picnic tables and share stories and lots of laughs. I remember Gunther Rall (luftwaffe) putting his arm over Robert Rankin (US Army Air Corps) expressing his condolences for the loss of his wife and asking how his sons were faring. It occurred to me that these former enemies became friends because for them the air war was nothing personal and they had more in common with one another than they did with their own neighbors. Here in the west, we need to raise more such gentlemen rather than subjective, self-obsessed men who know neither courage nor stoicism.
The vision and clarity of Douglas Murray have been a beacon for me these past few years. Stay the course sir. And 'thank you'.
same
Absolutely, he's an international treasure, like Dr. P.
You mean the clarity he has shown for instance in his analyses of the war in Ukraine? Please refer back to his videos and rephrase what you have written. This guy is a joke - a typical product of western education with no understanding of politics or geopolitics, yet constantly parading him self and showing his utter ignorance.
@@marekadamek7697absolute nonsense 😊
In 1934 my father was in a boys home in London after running away from home back in Liverpool and being caught by the police. One day a officer from the RN turned up and 4 boys were lined up ( including my dad. ). The officer told them they had 2 choices. 1 was stay in the home 2 was join the Navy. My dad was still in when WW ll started .He served until 1946 on many differen destroyers in Nth Atlantic and Mediteranean. Im 71 and i still miss him.
Great story. Thank you for sharing.
My father fought at Anzio. Lost him early in my life. You never stop missing them.
How old did one have to be to join the royal navy?
@@BradBooth-ni1ieDad and Uncle Speck were there, 34th Infantry. Enlisted at Ft. Dodge, Iowa.
@@hrearden699314
A double dose of high intelligence, research and common sense. Their voices are so reassuring amongst the din of competing absurdity and nonsense.
These are men of truth.
We need a lot more of that in the US.
I hear desperation and fear in Eby. He is doubling down 6:19 . 😅
"never give up never surrender"
Galaxy Quest.
“You can choose to go down, but you’re not taking me with you.”
100%
Enter ye in at the strait gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there be who go in thereat. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I consider Murray a hero of our time!!!
I’d turn gay for Douglas Murray.
What is sad, is that Douglas can say what he says, because he’s gay - it gives him some protection from the Guardian and the BBC.
@ I’ll take it. It’s like Thomas sowell… if there weren’t people like this we wouldn’t have a chance for sanity to win
He has the goojfc needed to speak your mind in 2024
Me, too.
The Good deed of just one man, benefits All Mankind. ❤
How does my spare change donation to the Salvation Army bell ringer benefit "all mankind"?
Conversation between these two guys is Golden ! Enlightening and Inspirational . ✝️ Thank you !
Kudos to Peterson for asking an old question in an exciting fashion. Kudos to Murrey for given an eloquent response. Never stop asking important questions even if they seem old.
Having good questions is often more valuable than having a set of answers. As Einstein is reported as having said, in the 1930's, he was happy to give the same exam questions two years in a row because the answers had changed!
Two of my favourite people having an articulate, considered debate
Mine too. It's great to listen to them. I admire them both.
Glad that Doug mentioned the sixteen year old story. I love watching the "Fat Electricians" channel because he regularly shares the incredible stories of inspiration of those at very young ages going above and beyond just so that they could honorably serve this country. Like Eugene Bullard who himself and father regularly dealt with racism in the south and instead of becoming a victim like his father, He left home at 14, Hopped a ship to join the French foreign legion. Ended up becoming a decorated officer, The first Black pilot there, Owner operator of a successful business that had many historical figures frequent it, and eventually came back to the states after fighting the Nazi's. Victim mentality was once antithetical to what this country stood for. Now it is embraced and promoted.
The fat electrician rules
One shouldn’t have to leave one’s own country to “ not be a victim”. Racism in the South was murderous during Jim Crow.
Oh there’s a bunch of great stuff on his channel. Roy Benavidez too is one of my favorites. And the Marine horse. And any marine story. And Arizona iced tea. And Popeyes chicken.
I love Douglas Murray because he's inspiring for everybody. He can relate in different ways to everybody.
He's in my top 5.
Who are the other four? 🤔
I'm not a fan of genocide defenders but that's just me
@@tenderhooligan7580 I'm not a fan of genocide such as what Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas have continuously vowed to do to the Jews either. I'm not a fan of fanatical Islamists. Nor communists. Or any other nasty stench of totalitarianism. But that's just me.
@@tenderhooligan7580 but fan of initial murders.....got it...
@lawsonspedding6136 facts and logic in a reasonable arguement
Great final statement: "You can go that way if you want to, but you're not taking me with you."
The way of a soulless fool.
Two great thinkers delivering a warning of the perils of post-modernism.
9:14 I find Douglas Murray's grasp reassuring, he doesn't give it a thought that he and Peterson have become giant hero's in the last six years just by being themselves. They are proof that yin- yang is the law of the Universe... bless you gentlemen for your inspiration 🙏
Peterson and Murray are two of the great heroes of our time. The stood firm for truth and free speech under immense pressure and lies from the left in an unrelenting attempt to destroy them. They did so at a time when very few will willing to stand up at the risk of being chopped down. Thank God for all of our sakes these two great men remained courageous in the fire and did not fold like so many do.
I like when JP unexpectedly lunges at the screen and yells out his metaphysical question into your face right at the beginning of the video lol
responded with "hrrmm.. mhhrmm.. mrrhrhmm.. mhmrhm..." lolol
@@JerryXu-c6c The sound you hear when ideas are having sex, with Logos at play lol
Too much time in the belly of the whale
@@JerryXu-c6c OK, so it wasn't just my sound 😂
🫵🗿🫱
Two great minds. A true pleasure to listen to.
Really? i find both to be tedious bores (but to be fair i think that about most of these professional “talking heads” these days)
@@stunningkrugertroll bot
@stunningkruger you must find everything so boring then!
@@andrewcheadle948 🤣 Not at all. Why would you think that?
@@stunningkruger why do you think....
European civilization and its development are nothing short of miraculous. For those in the East, such a concept might seem unimaginable; before the Internet, I wouldn’t have believed such a place existed. It must be protected and cherished at all costs.
The East had a pretty good thing going on until Europeans got involved. Sure they had wars but they gave us Buddhism
Too late. The East is here and Europe is already gone.
Europe had been in far worst situations. @@AnnaMack-m1l
@@AnnaMack-m1l yeah, I realized yesterday, that quaint little Britain we've all known our whole lives, is gone. Erased. Never to be seen again.
I think you missed the class where they taught about the planetary civilisations of the East - like the Indian and Chinese. Or perhaps worse, they didn't even teach it.
I am inspired by the word remoralisation. As I have aged, and watching the madness of the ideological forces in the world, I am becoming more and more aware of the absolute benefit as an individual of pushing for remoralisation.
I have learned that having a simple life with empathy, sympathy, patience, gratitude, kindness, accountability, responsibility, generosity, strength in the face of adversity, flexibility, tolerance, courage etc.etc. actually gives you great joy about who you are.
There is so much adversarial bitterness and intolerance in the world.
If I could have any wish for humanity it would be for people to become more self aware and to understand the rewards that come from the positive interconnectedness with the rest of the global community.
Thank you for such a thoughtful and accurate analysis. I, too, picked up on the word remoralise, which to my surprise and edification isn’t the opposite of demoralise when examining the dictionary definition. I like it.
It is true. I have started to govern my life accordingly as well. You make the world a better place by you yourself being a better person and then once you are a better person you make the world around you better. If we all can get back on board with that idea then we have the whole world of people making the world a better place. But it all starts with the remoralization of the self and becoming better.
Subscribed. Jordan Peterson was one of the first voices I heard on YT that gave me hope I wasn't alone in thinking I was isolated versus the forces of Femocracy. And that resistance was possible. Thanks to Doc P! Semper fi!
Two giants of the discussion on the side of sense. Thanks for this, gents.
I saw the Bonhoeffer movie yesterday.
I knew the ending but I still almost sobbed. My life has been hard but i haven't had to show that kind of courage. The Lord just asks me to live for him not to die. Less self pity today.
I feel the same. I have always admired Bonhoeffer, since I learned his story decades ago.
I saw the Bonhoeffer movie last week. It was so informative. My friend who I was with, made reference to the persecution of the jews. I burst out crying as I said, "Its still going on!"
I saw the movie too. I wish I could be as courageous as Bonhoeffer.
I love Douglas. He is great!
@@The_MKUltra I love puppets on strings too.
Hi there, you both are the two people I most admire and provide me with so much inspiration to be the best version of myself I can be and to try to impact the world in a positive way.
Thank you both and keep fighting the good fight for sanity and humanity.
All this makes perfect sense; what it does not consider:
“Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”
- Friederich Nietzsche
And nazism was one such insanity.
Maybe these extreme left leaning activists really are projecting what they plan on doing. They plan on all these insanities
Real heros and leaders, never faced an interview panel, they faced life head on and ran forward with the answer, needed at the time.
There is something about living authentically and privately, being true to yourself and the few signifant ones, that escapes those who live in the limelight and the applause of an audience.
I just love Douglas Murray
Why?
Thank goodness for these two intellectual giants
Had the pleasure of going to Florence and seeing the statue of David.
The time, patience and skill to make a statue with so much detail is astounding especially in this modern age when attention spans are so short. Not sure it could be made by Human Hand today.
And to think that it was made from a piece of scrap marble that no one else would attempt to work on!
The population of Florence was only about 60,000 at the time it was made too, and still they produced such masterpieces.
I love the word ‘remoralise’ as being the opposite of demoralise. Never heard it before.
My dad and his brothers and scores of men and women, all vets, surrounded my childhood, the Greatest Generation. Most of them were dead when millenials started calling them that but I don't think they would agree. I think they fought and worked and devoted their survival through the 30's and the 40's to us, so we could be the greatest generation. Evil people have turned us all into the Lost Generation that believes it is the Last generation. We have to become heroes, individuals, willing to sacrifice themselves to a lost cause, only to unexpectedly turn the tide. Sometimes it takes a single effort. Sometimes, like me, defeat must be overcome again and again, but the fight must be fought.
Two of the most important figures of my time on Earth. Thank you kindly for helping to guide me in this life.
And Shohei Ohtani.
"mmm mmm ...mmm ...mmm"
This should be a 10h loop of this
He was ready to answer
😂😂😂😂
He really meant oy, oooy, oyyy vei
Oh hey I love that song.
These 2 men are TREASURES
They were.. until they exposed themselves as child mass murdering defenders
No they're not
@@DennisM-wp7jt I agree. It's hard to see them as these profound thinkers when they can't even condemn murdering babies with Bombs
@@DennisM-wp7jtYou’re right, they don’t have purple hair and ungroomed faces, nor do they wear flamboyant shirts. Their names shan’t be Treasure.
Jordon thanks for having Douglas on your show 😊
"You can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself".
Rick Nelson
Douglas Murray please run for office in the UK
I'm so grateful for the opinions and insights of these two gentlemen.
Pride is used to refer to the respect for glory, but Pride the sin refers to one's own vanity and hubris.
It might be as simple as not praising others, instead honoring their distinction by being thankful while being humble to your own.
It would be such a pleasure to listen to these to gentleman in a live event.
I was at 1 in Belfast with JP and 10000 others.Fantastic.
I've always believed that I was making history...in my tiny way in my little family. Every small act of sacrifice matters.
It's true. They want us to think we are insignificant however every action matters. Nothing stands alone.
@@runswithraptorseverybody is insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that’s not a bad thing. Your outlook is a good one because your significance should really only matter to your family and loved ones. Insignificant to all but significant to them
@@MM-jc7uv really? So you mean to say that all of the notable people of history are insignificant? People argue, fight and kill over things others did and said in the past, obviously what you do matters!
Every act matters, because the value of your acts are not yours to judge.We have no idea the weight our actions carry with others and beyond
@@runswithraptors in the grand scheme of things yes. If you’re looking at it from the scale of the universe they are meaningless, but even then they will eventually be forgotten/irrelevant as time passes. Even religious figures could be discarded or replaced with new ones as they have been for all of human history, who knows.
This was an invigorating dialogue, makes one ready for the challenges ahead!
Thank you, Sir, for speaking out the truth! ❤
Thank you for your unconditional support! 🙏🏻
Good to see you both Dr Peterson and Douglas Murray. Have a wonderful Christmas.
Why reinvent the wheel? Promote the good that exists! Those who criticize our world must understand how we got here to appreciate it. Have we no living memories within our families who have experienced the World Wars and it's consequences? It seems those who want to erase history know little of it.
3:10 First time I have heard this. It would be the thesis for every commencement speech forever. It would great freshman classes everywhere. What a concept!
Two people I respect having a powerful discussion. More of this please! And the inane funny shorts and cooking and boating and everything else I watch. Seriously, hope the algorithm sees the like and comment and puts more of this on my TL
We need way more of this guy please
The spirit and the soul hold us up from descending the road to perdition. Remoralization:
Lift the spirit and light the soul.
Douglas, a great mind of our time as always. I have so much appreciation for that man
If you haven’t already, I encourage you both to watch Jeanine Pirro’s interview with Daniel Penny on Fox Nation and you’ll see a perfect example of a beautiful, moral, young man. It made me cry and feel great love at the same time.
It brings into focus the hideous behavior, morals and ignorance of the elite leftists in media and elsewhere who actually criticize and damn this brave young man as they spew the most despicable, conceited condemnations. The young man they condemn represents everything I wish I would be and certainly encourage our children and grandchildren to be throughout life.
You won’t regret it.
The most outstanding characters of our lifetime .a real pleasure
A Christian world view puts us amongst the great heroes of the faith and encourages us to run our race with their example in mind.
A great conversation!
beauty is crazy truth is beauty
Bless both of you ❤️ 🎉
WONDERFUL! THANK YOU!
Good point ..... "Add to" rather than replace.
If you erase history you’re doomed to repeat it
You only need to stop teaching it and lose the generation who lived it 😮
@@johnmalcolm3116 Mistakes are always repeated as we humans are repetitive in history, so not teaching the future generation ensures a repetition of the past.
I think it was plato who said thousands of years ago..."it depends on who's teaching the history "
@@TomOHare-r4lvoltaire I believe it was stated history is written by the victors, but I think " but it's re-written by bigots and charlatans" needs to be added to this to reflect the modern day.
This conversation made me reflect on Emerson’s Self Reliance!
How's Lake and Palmer going?
_"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why"._ Mark Twain, Samuel Clemens' more clever twin.
It never ceases to amaze me how outsiders always complain that Europe has no culture, when Europe has the highest culture because Our Lord Jesus Christ! ❤❤❤
The reason for this is quite simple. It's the same reason why you see so very few incredible film makers and a vast amount of "critics" willing to tear down someone else's work. Because the sheer amount of Talent, Work Ethic, Drive and Commitment you need to be successful at film making is exceedingly rare. Whereas any moron with a keyboard and a tenuous grasp on the language can sit back and critique said film. It is no different when it comes to historical figures. Very few people today could of been Dante Alighieri......or Aristotle....etc. But plenty of people can critique their words or actions from the relative safety of their air-conditioned homes.
Sheer amount of talent... Shears is a scissors, I believe. But spelling isn't my strength. Double check me.
Autocorrect doesn't always work.
You can also shear wool from sheep, using Shearing scissors. lol.
Absolutely. The same mentality as a vandal. Creating something takes effort and may be noticed, while destroying it takes little effort and is always noticed. That vandal mind is a truly rotten one and has no place in society.
Well Done Mr. Peterson. Very profound & enlightening to listen too.
Thank you both for your sane, steady, brilliant examples.
I feel smarter just for watching these two.
Thankyou both of you ✌️
"even if heaven doesn't exist, hell matters and you will figure it out when you get there."
that is a very interesting sentence.
It certainly is. For me, hell would be living in an Islamic caliphate. Hope we figure that one out before we get there.
If hell exists then logically so must heaven!
Thanks guys, you are both making a difference in my world. And that is very hard to do.
"Mmm... Mmm... Mmm" im waiting for him to softly say "yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhh"
Give him a break, he didn't know the mic would pick it up so loudly
Great conversation.
"Remoralization." As the antidote to "demoralization." I like that.
Jordan saying it like it is❤
So much knowledge & self empowerment ❤
Bravely doing the right thing,these two!!!
Thanks for the clip.
Listening to a conversation between two individuals about such lofty topics yet so very captivating is fascinating.
Sometimes I feel so sophomoric in my thoughts compared to individuals such as these two men.
Wonderful conversation, but simultaneously deeply sad that it has to happen at all, especially in the context of the macro Western world.
The pursuit of beauty, knowledge, truth, joy, harmony, peace and happiness should be the only pursuit of all humans. Heaven will then be created on Earth. Yet, some insists on creating Hell.
Well spoken Douglas, as always.
The young 16 year old Murray references is my Great Uncle’s brother, Tommy Brown. He later died in a house fire in North Shields trying to save his sister’s life. My Great Uncle Stan received his George’s Cross medal at Buckingham Palace after WW2. They didn’t know the significance of his achievement in the war until decades afterwards.
Thank you for sharing this story. Mr. Brown was a true hero. May he rest in peace.
Walked thru a neighborhood yesterday in a Midwest town where not a single resident owned a broom, rake, mower, pruning shears or the motivation to use them.
Two of my favourite gentlemen. Two sturdy rocks in a sea of political madness and intellectual chaos.
Exactly. There is nothing new under the sun. Keep what is true and right. Some things should NOT be changed, but rather refined.
Talking about expensive art and high trust society, Peterson doesn't know the half of it. Back in the '80s I went to a major gallery in London. There was one famous impressionist painting I wanted to see and I'd read that that gallery had it. (Pretty sure it was "Carnation, Lily, Lily, Rose" - Singer Sargent).
I couldn't find it so I asked a curator about it and she said they do have it but it's not currently on display. Come with me.
We went down into the basement where 100s of works of art where in racks. She found the priceless work of art and give it me in my hands to look at. "Just put it on the table and come and tell me when you're finished looking at it" she said and went back upstairs.
Would that happen today? If not what have we "progressed" to?
Douglas Murray: how fresh, how clear. The genius of valuing simplicity. We are so lucky to have the wisdom which seems second (first?) nature to him. Remember, for God's sake, remember who we are. (were?)
What a PM Douglas would make.
OMG! It would be beyond imagination!
The two leading lights. Classic solution from Douglas - make history, don’t disrupt or problematise it. Contemplate the continuity of the wests historical development, which is unquestionably the greatest culture on earth.
11:06 Douglas] "There has to be an answer to demoralization," and that is something like 'remoralization.'
Murray and JP are friends so this interview was cordial. Search for Murray debating at the Monk debates or on programs with antagonists....there is no one better in the world to support Merit, Western virtues, Israel over the usual idiots, etc. he's the best. Being British doesn't hurt.
“Even if heaven doesn’t exist, hell matters.” Life is a nutshell.
Wonderful stuff, gentlemen 🤗🤗
Thanks Jordan
An inspiring conversation indeed! I think that aspiring to achieve something big and possessing the courage to pursue that aim are attributes that the west must embrace again. The healthy competition and camaraderie such endeavors foster are good for the soul. This may be off somewhat topic, but for instance I played a volunteer logistical and communications role in the American Fighter Aces Association for many years. One of things that that I always admired whenever the aces gathered was the mutual respect and true friendship that the surviving pilots of all combatant nations shared with one another. Whether from America, the Commonwealth, France, Russia, Japan, or Germany and the rest of the Axis these men would gather in a restaurant, a pub or around the picnic tables and share stories and lots of laughs. I remember Gunther Rall (luftwaffe) putting his arm over Robert Rankin (US Army Air Corps) expressing his condolences for the loss of his wife and asking how his sons were faring. It occurred to me that these former enemies became friends because for them the air war was nothing personal and they had more in common with one another than they did with their own neighbors. Here in the west, we need to raise more such gentlemen rather than subjective, self-obsessed men who know neither courage nor stoicism.
Heros of our age
Mm-hmm.
Fuck no
easy compact way to rephrase Douglas: people need purpose. That's it. Having aspirations, goals to achieve is healthy makes us better people.
Thank you for sharing
Murray always nails it 👍 xx
Douglas Murray for PM !!!
Thanks