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Why are schools not helping children with this ? I got diagnosed at 19 and had to arrange and pay for it myself. I always got the highest grades and then sucked at math. Fairly obvious.
what's hard about having dyscalculia isn't the fact that i can't do math to save my life but that no one knows that it's a diagnose that exists so people think i'm just being dumb or lazy.
I feel your pain. I have had it all my life. I’m 35 so it was not really heard of when I was at school although it was by the time I got to university and I did get support. For me it’s like the numbers have a life of their own I don’t read them always correctly so I’ll get to the wrong answer even though I’ve got the method right. This means that all my life I’ve had to quadruple check my answers to check they are right because I can’t trust my brain fully. My Mum and Dad are both exceptional mathematicians so they found it very hard to understand . I eventually found an excellent private tutor that was so patient and an expert in understanding where and how my mistakes were made. Finding a teacher like this is very hard. I got lucky and I didn’t just pass my Maths in the end I got an A . I have many achievements in my life but my GCSE maths was my greatest because it was the hardest thing I ever did (for me) and took me 4 attempts. Never mind all my degrees and exams in music that I’ve got - this for me was the greatest because it was the hardest.
Righttt I have that problem before my social worker told me I might have a learning disability I searched right away and at first my teacher thought I didn’t want to do it or just give up
I have Dyscalculia and it effects me in my job.I work in retail and I hate when customers give me more change after I've already given them change and then I have to use mental math.Most of the time (especially when the store is busy) I can't seem to figure out the new change amount.I get so embarrassed and some customers make comments, mean comments.I am good at my job and like it but being on register scares me.
unsure if i have Dyscalculia i can do mathematics but have always been poor at mental math, in my current job the manager and other workers have a little clique and take great pleasure in randomly asking me random sums, and when i don't give an answer in like 5 seconds they all get on the high horses and really go at me, yes it sucks in an ideal world id just quit the job and look for another but alas stuck there for now.
Tiger Balm1978 I'm so sorry. That must be like torture! I've been judged for years by my father and repeatedly mocked by my brother for being 'bad' at maths. He knew it was embarrassing for me, so he'd up the humiliation by telling other people how bad I was at maths. Very damaging for a young person and as an adult.
@@TigerBalm-mz7yr omg thats terrible!! Management should really know better!! I'm pretty sure it's illegal to do that to someone that has an LD :/ is there a union you could go to for help?? I hope you resolved the matter with your managers or found a new place to work :/
I always thought I was an idiot bc i could count back change, read a clock, understand left and right, do simple math in my head. I just found out today that I will have to test for dyscalculia to help me through college courses like calculus 1 through 3. It is harder for me, but nothing is impossible. If i can do it, anyone can do it!
I always thought I was an idiot... I'm in 7th grade and can't do much math over a 3rd grade level. I can only understand the simple stuff...like the basics. This helped. Thank you.
I'm sorry that Math is this way for you. l would like to tell you (and hope it helps), that I was diagnosed with dyscalculia in the fifth grade and spent 6,7,8,9, 10,11 and 12TH. grades getting special help for my disability. 1996 was my senior year and I tested positive again then for Dyscalculia. I found out at that time that my comprehension in Math was at a level of a sixth or seventh grader. I went on to TRY college in 1997 and after six years with no degree I gave up and settled for a job I needed to survive instead of a carreer I wanted. Here I am now 23 years later and at age 42. I just tested myself yesterday and I am no better at math now then I was at age 17! I also have never worked in a career I wanted, all because of my learning disabiIity in and my fear of math! PLEASE don't be like me, get the help you need NOW, and overcome this! Talk to your parents and teachers! Being tested for and diagnosed disabled qualifies you for extra help in class, extra time to take tests and free tutoring! YOU CAN DO IT! BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!
Same, I think I have dyscalculia but not sure, I can do addition and subtraction okay but I'm really bad at multiplication and division I can't do for the life of me, I don't know if I'm sposed to add or subtract or what ITS HARRDDD and my mom won't even listen to me when I tell her the list of things that it says I might be bad at, a lot of them I struggle with like telling left from right, I have to make my hand in an L to know, and I count with my fingers. I feel like Im just really stupid at math and it doesn't feel good, I wish my mom would just have me do a test to see if I have it or not so that I know. Because if I do have it I might not feel as dumb, but if I don't that's going to be soul crushing because then I know I'm just stupid.
IKR??? Growing up, I thought I was such an idiot for never understanding basic math. My dad always became so frustrated and angry teaching me the basics because I often forgot what he taught and could never fully understand the concept. No matter how hard I tried and practiced, nothing ever stuck. High school was the worst. The teacher would call on me, asking the most basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, or division problem and I would get it wrong every time. It was such an embarrassing experience. I never understood why this was. I was fine in other subjects except math. Now it all makes sense! And the fact that others experienced this too makes me feel hopeful!
This Girl Absolutely! I struggled all through Primary and Secondary school. I was told once a long time ago by a special education teacher, that I showed symptoms of having Dyscaculia. I had no idea what is was and I never researched it. I'm 32 now and have only just researched it. Tbh, right now I feel like crying myself because of the many awful years of embarrassment, humiliation and mockery and this is mainly by my own relatives. Oh i agree Maths lessons were hell at school! I was in set 10 - lowest set possible. I got a great big 'F' for GCSE maths. I wish I did something about it earlier in life.
This video and its comments section has me in tears. EVERYTHING resonates with me and explains so much. As a child, I had no difficulties with language. I learned to read at 2 years old, and by the time I entered kindergarten at 4, I knew my alphabet and could read/write my name, days of the week, simple sentences, etc. But numbers and math...they never made *sense* to me like they did everyone else. Learning arithmetic throughout elementary school was a NIGHTMARE. My parents struggled to help me with math homework because I just couldn't *grasp* any of the numerical concepts. The only way I was able to learn multiplication was by memorizing the tables (I had a good memory). However, I couldn't do mental math like others. I was still counting on my fingers at 14 in my pre-algebra class, and I didn't understand how to read an analog clock until I was 12. It's a relief to know that I'm not alone, but it breaks my heart to see so many of us were called stupid and dumb when in reality, we weren't.
Girl I’m 31 and I feel this way! I never knew this was a thing, till today! I always said to myself I’m just awful at math, numbers give me phobia! But this makes more sense, now that I look back to when I was in school. I struggled more than the average kid. Even in college I took algebra 1 part 1!! And passed with a C! that was amazing for me ! Wow I wish I knew this sooner. ❤
I'm a visual learner so while you struggled with analog clocks, it took me a bit because I wanted to be precise in pinpointing the minute hand, but I too memorized the time tables and tried to deconstruct what made them that answer in my head because at the time it took me forever to calculate multiplication in my head. 😅
I could have written your comment! Same, same, same. Learned to read on my own by watching Sesame Street at age 3 1/2. I was 4 when I started Kindergarten, and the teacher found out I could read proficiently, so she had me (and other kids who could read) read to my classmates. I could do puzzles very well as a little girl. Devoured books by the truckload! My grandfather was an MIT PHD, used a slide rule, would do math problems FOR FUN. My brother is a math genius like our grandfather, but has dyslexia. Fast forward to 2nd grade. Math tutors from then on; not being able to understand how to do long division or where to put the numbers. The concepts of numbers? Nope, it's not a thing. "You're just not applying yourself", "It'll just click one day". Arguments with my mom about math and me not studying hard enough. High school algebra,, geometry, etc - I couldn't retain what sorts of formulas to use, or what they meant. Any number sets or multiplication that weren't 2s, 5,s, 10s, etc. was incredibly difficult. I've gotten better with addition/subtraction over the years, and can manage to figure out a 20%+ tip at a restaurant (10% of the total, then double that and add a couple extra dollars), give $21.30 for an $10.30 order at the cash register and know I'll get $10 back. Lately, I can roughly gauge what my word score will be in WWF. That's about it. I still get the "you're dumb at math" crap from my mom, and I'm in my 50s. I had no idea dyscalculia even existed until recently.
When I was a child (back in the early 80's) I was diagnosed with "learning disabilities", they never gave anything specific. Looking back at my life I can safely say it's Dyscalculia because I have had and continue to have difficulties in many of the areas outlined in the video. When I was in school mental math was stressed and I had many calculators taken away from me (and never given back the damn thieves). The teachers would always say something along the lines of "what would you do if you didn't have a calculator?". I would tell them that I always plan to have one with me and to this day I carry one at all times (some of the reasons I love smartphones is the calculator, calendar, clock, and GPS apps).
Same for me. I later found out that is I use a calculator enough eventually the answer will pop into my head while punching in the numbers. Years of building houses has helped tons with my ability to understand numbers
totally relatable, we were screwed in this regard in 80s. you werent alone! even willingly went to confession for using calculator (privately - crikey) >
BBMEE SCI I’m not going to self diagnose, but I do exhibit several of the symptoms described in my recent research (I count with my fingers still, I have trouble reporting numbers to others, I never learned my times tables despite working on it for awhile, etc) I’m nervous because I would like to go into the Sciences. How would you recommend I go through with this? How do I manage my symptoms? (Dyscalculia or not) Thanks :)
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Dyscalculia has literally gave me panic attacks and anxiety since I was 7, no matter how much I revised and studied I just could not count, I couldn’t learn my additions, never learned divisions or any math exercises till this day I struggle, my teacher was very mean he couldn’t understand why I wasn’t able to do my math and he would humiliate me in front of everyone call me constantly at the board in front of everyone to ask me to resolve a math problem, I couldn’t do even the easiest ones, my class mates would laugh at me, I dreaded going to school for that reason and I hated school with all my heart, I remember that as soon as my teacher called my name I would have a full blown panic attack, it’s the worst thing that can happen to a child. I always thought I was stupid, it has impacted my life in so many ways that it angers me, I didn’t want to go to uni because I knew there would be math, I didn’t want to choose some Careers because I knew there was math involved, and that’s why now at 30 I am a nurse, I’ve learned to hide it so much, people never understand why I can’t do my math I am very brilliant academically, I speak 6 languages fluently and I could learn another one very easily, I can read and write very well too but I just can’t do my math, I even struggle with reading the time I have to constantly count the numbers, I’m a quick thinker but as soon as there is a number involved I just can’t grasp the notion.
@@HAIRHOLIC_1 it makes me so happy to read that you’re working as nurse a because that is the field that I would like to go into as well. I still have to take college algebra and statistics but I am at an elementary math level and it’s frustrating because everything else academically I excel; except for math it has always been a struggle for me since I was a little girl but if you can become a nurse so can I. Thank you for sharing your story.
@@amarieimani876 exactly you can do everything you want, on top of it if you get diagnosed there are ways around it now, they didn’t have them back in the days, so I suggest you get diagnosed and everything will be much easier for you and you’ll be able to achieve all of your goals, wish u all the best❤️🙏
I grew up with undiagnosed ADHD and Dyscalculia. I only found out that I have it when one of my children was diagnosed with it. As I was filling in the forms for him at the Neurologist's office, I recognized all of the symptoms. I cried with relief when I realized I have it. All during my childhood years I was told almost daily that I was lazy, stupid, and just didn't WANT to learn. I had to stay after school for extra help with Math, go to summer school every year, and I still couldn't understand it. I hated school because of it. I had countless sleepless nights dreading the following day at school. I used to feel sick every morning before school, because I couldn't do my Math homework. I felt so inferior to my classmates. I thought about suicide so many times. I was picked on at school, mocked and ridiculed. I only had a few friends in my school years. My parents used to get so mad at me for not "doing my best" at school. I wanted to become a veterinarian or Pediatrician and couldn't finish high school because of the damn Math. This evil learning disability destroyed my childhood, and my life. I still struggle socially. I find it hard to mix with people at times, because I still feel inferior. Anytime numbers come up, I panic inside. I have to use my tip calculator in my phone, which saves me. My GPS in my car has given me the freedom to drive to wherever I like. My husband still refuses to believe I have this disability.
I had a similar issue in school. I would get bullied badly by my peers because I could never complete my maths work in time. My teacher saw that I was struggling and refused to help me with my work. Whenever I asked for help she refused and just said it was just “maths anxiety” and I would overcome it eventually. Due to that traumatic experience I now find it hard to do maths without having a panic attack.
I am in a community college and I have to tell you, the colleges don't like giving accommodations to people with learning disabilities. They will drag their feet on this issue. If you have Dyscalculia you have the right to these accomodations, and they can include the right to a four function calculator during class or testing time, extended testing time (time and a half or double time), the right for a distraction free environment, and the right to use basic graphs and color charts as needed.
Absolutely! I had to threaten to sue the school just to stay in a class. The professor did not want to accommodate me what-so-ever. She publicly shamed me, then drug me out in the hall to tell me I had to drop her class or she would straight up fail me because there was no way she was going to “waste her time on my problems”. I had to contact an attorney that specialized in educational disabilities and he filed a formal complaint on my behalf with the school and said the next action would be a lawsuit. Needless to say going to her class that semester was a bit uncomfortable, but I did pass. It’s been a roadblock for me my entire life. Teachers that didn’t believe in learning disabilities and then peers that thought I was getting special treatment somehow. If they only knew how bad it was / is.
I’ve been diagnosed with dyscalculia twice, and the most difficult part of it for me is so extreme that I’m almost hesitant to tell you because it sounds beyond belief. I have more incredible trouble with spatial orientation than I can describe. I’m 61 and I’ve lived in the same small town I was born in all of my life, but I get lost in it as easily as I would if you dropped me off in a metropolis I’d never seen, so for me the invention of GPS navigators has been nothing less than life changing.
@@GrantTarredus Yep, that was the joke. I'm in the same boat mate. At least we know it's a thing now. Stopped me from going to Grammar school, and I can't budget my money.
I'm just reading the comments and even though this youtube video was posted over five years ago, it still makes me feel so good that I'm not the only one struggling with this!! It's reasuring to know that somewhere out I've got a dyscalculia family :)
I knew from a young age I had a problem with numbers. In primary school (junior school) in the mornings we had to go round the class and take turns at verbally spelling a given word then we had to solve. Mental arithmetic problems. It caused me so much anxiety and dread every day. I was fine with all other subjects but anything to doth numbers. Couldn’t fathom it. On to High school I was in lowest class for arithmetic, I asked if I could join the remedial group but was refused because I was good at all other subjects. Arithmetic and math has caused me many issues in my life and I dropped out of courses or applying for jobs due to these issues. I learned about dyscalculia eventually and the relief that I had a legitimate problem was immense. I was able to openly explain to people when needed, that I had this issue and it made a big difference in many aspects of my life.
I won the LD jackpot Dyscalculia Dyslexia Severe ADHD Education in the 60's and 70's was such a joy. Every report card said I was not living up to my potential. My teachers came out of the "Teach by humiliation" school of teaching. If we humiliate the student enough in front of their peers they will study harder. I was bullied by the teachers along with the students. My father was a mathematical genius and could not comprehend my total inability to do math. Adulting is no joy either. Thank the Goddess for Tip Apps, Sale % Apps, and calculators on our phones.
I married a guy who is brilliant in math. He has a hard time writing and spelling. Perfect union! We worked together for many years and now we are both more experienced with math and writing. A great deal of overcoming a learning difficulty is gaining loads of experience.
I've only been diagnosed with dyscalculia in my 40's it explains so much about my early life and my insecurities and always feeling 'stupid'. School was hell. I was labeled stupid and dumb, my fourth grade teacher told my parents "She will probably get a job when she's an adult, she has a nice smile". My parent thought I was lazy. My grade 6 teacher in 1986 used to stand me up in front of the class to make me do maths problems on the blackboard, saying I could not sit down until I'd finished showing the class, I'd just stand there frozen and mute, humiliated and trying not to cry....he did it because he thought it was funny. Mr MacDowel I STILL HATE YOU. My insecurities have plagued me though out my life and held me back. I still can't remember my times tables, numbers make no sense to me, they jumble up and have no 'meaning' I can grasp onto. I'm fine with everyday life and simple calculations if I'm not stressed/under pressure and I still secretly count on my fingers sometimes. It's so good to read all these comments and know I wasn't stupid all those years and I'm not alone and we are ok.
Parents often try to tell me in groups on fb... or family... why do dig and make her get evaluations just let her be a kid instead of lookin for what's wrong? The other day my 11 yr old said thx mom for doing that could u imagine if I was in regular school trying to get through. I would have thought was so dumb and incapable. Myheart hurts for other kids whose parents won't investigate. It causes lifetime esteem issues. Truant behavior. Lack of confidence. Anxiety depression. It's sad
This is "J". Everything you just described was exactly how I was treated in school growing up. It was a 'nightmare'. I had low self esteem and kids viewed me as the 'dumb kid'. I hated school because of it.
I was just told I had "difficulties with math" growing up but wasn't officially diagnosed dyscalculic until last year. Thankfully that diagnosis allowed me to not have to take a math class for my degree.
I suffer from dyscalculia and ADHD (I have been diagnosed with both). I have a very hard time in math. I can't process all the numbers and write out formulas because my brain has a hard time processing all the information and numbers so I end getting the questions in math totally wrong.
I have the exact same problem. I often forget which numbers I started with or they jumble up into different numbers. For example I could easily read 232 as 223. All my life I’ve just got used to quadruple checking my answers because my brain can’t be trusted 😆
Getting math questions in everyday life, being asked to answer math questions in class as fast as possible or being put in charge of a cashier were all horrible experiences of mine.
I have been diagnosed with a mild form of dyscalculia last week, thank you so much for uploading this, it has really helped me understand my difficulty a lot more.
I Googled why I can't understand math and Dyscalculia came up. Everything then made sense. I talked to my mom and she also has this so that's just great 😭
It must been heartbreaking to see these struggling math students become math illterate in their adult years I'm one of them. Like my mind completely freezes when finding out a precent of something despite trying my hardest, it feels like I'm just spinning my wheels into the mud
it’s not even totally about enjoying it, it’s about teaching a tangible concept. I have Dyscalculia… and i’ve only ever been able to learn complex math from one person but it’s a real struggle
Wow. I was diagnosed with “slow fine motor skills” and my whole life I never had a name for it. I’m fucking dyslexic. I have dyscalulia and dysgraphia. I can finally do the proper research and make the changes needed to help myself succeed in life!
I think I found it, and I’m going to cry. The only thing I don’t have is logic problems I believe. I can understand any math problems as soon as you turn it into a story or riddle. But I think that’s what confused my teachers who in memory were just as confused as frustrated as I was. I’ve spent years trying to find the truth, YEARS. If this is the answer im so relieved
I am 70 years old and just recently realized that I have dyscalculia. I entered the 1st grade in 1958 and immediately had difficulty with what were termed "number papers". Unfortunately, learning disabilities were not recognized at the time (I myself could not understand why some of my classmates were unable to read, when I did it with ease). I would literally panic in 1st grade when the teacher instructed us to "pass your papers forward" and would shove my incomplete problem solving paper into my desk because I feared I would be punished for not completing it. Astoundingly, I was never approached by the teacher inquiring why I hadn't turned any work in. This caused me to develop a life long anxiety regarding mathematics. I was unable to complete a nursing degree due to my inability to comprehend the higher math classes required. Spent the majority of my life ashamed of my "stupidity" in mathematics.
I've been unable to get my High School diploma because I'm unable to pass the Math part of the SAT. I only have a High school completion. It's always depressed me for years. Always felt I was dumb. I just can't seem to get the math right. Mental math forget about it. I've always felt like a failure👎☹👎. *shrugs*
Keep at it . I’m 35 , have always had terrible dyscalculia and I didn’t get my GCSE maths (UK exam) until I was 27. It hangs on my wall in pride. I got an A in the end with the help of two amazing tutors. It took me 4 attempts and it was the hardest thing I ever did and I’ve achieved a LOT in my life (3 degrees) but this was the hardest so it’s the certificate I display . So I believe in you. You can get there.
Hey there. I maybe late to this but as I mentioned to @Dettoll above... "Look up Nueuro linguistic Programming. (Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is a pseudoscientific approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in California, United States in the 1970s) Basically instead of saying I suck at math, say I'm smarter than math can ever be. Another example, instead of saying to yourself or others something like, "don't forget" say "do remember." This starts to reprogram your brain... heck even typing this comment helps - This starts to reprogram your brain to think differently to help retain information. Math isn't hard and you are smarter than math could ever be. Perhaps you may have an answer deep in your brain that can solve____ (I'll let you fill in that blank.)" This maybe hard but its worth a shot. So lets redo your comment. take out unable and replace it with Able. Take out the word depressed and replace it with makes me happy. take out was dumb and replace it with am a genius. remove can't and replace it with can. just remover the next sentence all together and the last sentence, 'I always feel like I have supernatural powers and spread, hope, love and happiness to everyone I speak with. Write all that out and place it wherever you look. recite it every morning when you wake up and every evening when you go to bed. Do it for the next 90 days. Don't poo poo this. Its powerful. Do it and see what happens. :)
I’m a musician studying for my Masters in Vocal Performance and Musicology, and I have a severe visual impairment, Autism, and ADHD. I was newly diagnosed with Dyscalculia a couple of weeks ago. Rhythm in music is my biggest downfall. Knowing more about this condition makes so much sense as to why counting and maintaining rhythmic patterns is so difficult for me.
My daughter, age 9, was just recently diagnosed with this. Thank you for making this video, but for each step on that list, I'm remembering lesson after lesson that we had to work so hard on. It all makes sense now.
@@maria-melek she's 16 now. Still struggles with math but otherwise a good student. Has learned many strategies and takes advantage of extra help. She'll graduate high school in 2024. She's worked hard. I'm sorry your mom wasn't supportive.
I can understood the college textbooks that I pick up on history, but my brain can't process math at a seventh grade level. I have never made above a D in math, and I probably didn't deserve half of those. I struggle with most of the concepts presented in Algebra 1 and it goes without saying that I can't handle Algebra 2, Pre-Cal, and Trig.
me too. i am disabled by this. i have been telling my family i am registering for classes but i am really not because i fear i will waste my money never able to pass a math course.
me too. i am disabled by this. i have been telling my family i am registering for classes but i am really not because i fear i will waste my money never able to pass a math course.
Relax- music walks the same neuron pathways as math. Find some music you can learn and play. Pick up the guitar, violin, piano, harmonica, or even the recorder. Learn to play (choose one) change teachers if you need to. It will make math way easier. Music is open to you.
I've been diagnosed with ADHD but never dyscalculia - but every one of the videos I've watched about it has me checking all the boxes, with only a few exceptions. Namely, I don't have trouble with left and right, and my spatial reasoning doesn't seem to be severely impacted. However, maps, clocks, sheet music, memorizing multiplication tables, and calculations in general are all relatively difficult for me. I did find recently that it is much easier for me to perform calculations when numbers are written as their names rather than as numerals. I will be getting officially tested for a diagnosis as soon as I have the opportunity, but it's very clear I have this disability. I wish I had known this all the way back in grade school; I'm approaching 40 and it has simply made everything that requires any degree of mathematical precision impossibly difficult. It's horrible to live with it in ignorance.
I developed dyscalculia after a traumatic brain injury. I was a Paratrooper. I jumped one time and my parachute didn’t open. I hit the ground hard, broke several bones, hurt my spine, hit my head, and had a stroke as a result of that. I’m fine now. You would never be able to tell I got hurt so badly today. I still run and do martial arts. I’m healthier and have more energy than people half my age. No noticeable mental or physical impairment at all. I do have several spots on my brain full of necrotic tissue though. My brain created new pathways that allow me to operate somewhat normally, but I cannot do math anymore. That ability never came back. I miss it. I used to be brilliant in math. Now, not so much. I wanted to be a doctor and go to medical school but as a result of the injury, I barely passed algebra. I took it five times in college before I got a C. I never did master calculus. Took it 3 times in college and gave up. Never passed. I got degrees in political science and criminal justice instead and went into business. But I couldn’t get a degree in business. The math requirement was also too high. But I did take a bunch of business classes that focused on other aspects such as marketing and advertising. I hired a very good and professional accountant. That took care of the math component. I’m successful, very successful in fact. I’ve made more money with my businesses than I ever would have as a doctor. But it was hard and very disappointing knowing I would never be able to perform surgical procedures (something I was extremely interested in) simply because I could never meet a math requirement. It kinda sucks knowing that I’ll have to spend the rest of my life trying to find work arounds for my disability and in a lot of ways, I feel like a failure. I feel defective and stupid after my diagnosis, even though I know I’m not. My accomplishments prove this. First world problems, right? It still sucks and I still feel like a fool for having this condition. I’ve never told this to anybody. I’m only mentioning it now because I have the anonymity of the Internet. It still hurts though because I know something is wrong with me. I used to play cello and when I got older, I played rhythm guitar in jam bands with friends. I played metal music exclusively. I like bands like Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God. Very complicated rhythms. I can’t play an instrument anymore because I cannot count fast enough to keep up with and remember the chord changes. That one injury completely changes my life forever.
i think teachers need to learn how to tell the signs & symptoms for any dyslexic related disability. i was ridiculed all throughout school from teachers, kids and school staff members because i couldn't pass math and had so much difficulty with it. i wish i had known about this so much sooner so i could've done things differently.
I'm so glad that I now know the name for the thing I have, people just kept saying I was lazy and not paying attention even though I tried so hard just to make sense of this maths thing and I studied like crazy but just couldn't understand any of it. Or people just go like "oh yeah I'm bad at maths too" but they don't get that I'm actually impaired.
As an adult who believes has this, is it to late to be diagnosed? I did not finish high school, and have failed many times at getting my GED simply because of the math part of the test. I am discouraged to try again, because it is so depressing to fail at something that so many people have an easy time passing. Thank you for this video!
you can get accomodations for the ged where you can use a calculator... I did it.. if you can't get a dyscalculia diagnosis, see about ADD/ADHD testing. many with Dyscalculia also show symptoms of ADD/ADHD... they'll let you use a calculator for ADD/ADHD too, so either diagnosis will work ;) hope that helped!! (don't get discouraged, I failed the math the first time, and with the calculator nailed it the second time... you can do this!)
Kevin, I am for the third time going for the dreaded GED. If I fail this time..I'm pretty sure I will be done with ever taking it again. I too lost my job of 13 years when we got a new person in charge and saw I didnt graduate or have my GED I was let go. I worked with autistic children and was always praised for a job well done. Makes no sense. Math is so hard for me. I hope you find some happiness in your life. Dont let it drag you down that dark road. Its not worth it.
I know my reply is late, however when I went to take my GED I had to take the math portion 3 times before I passed. I know exactly how you feel just keep trying and get extra help and never give up. I know its tough. I am not diagnosed yet, but I may have this and am getting a test wed concerning this and I am 30 yrs old. Keep going!!
Alicia Seebode I had a high school math teacher that failed University Math several times before he passed the final test. You gotta try hard each time but you can do it and don't give up. Seek as much support as possible.
I'm pretty sure I have Dyscalculia. It's pretty overwhelming at this stage in my life. I have been actively pursuing an Associate degree in Pychology for the last 7 years, but because of Math. I have not been able to obtain this 2 year degree. I have 60 college credits,none of which are math because I have repeatedly failed the entry level college math course. Now if I attempt to take the same course again, I will have to pay the out of state fee. College is not cheap. There are people I went to high school with who now have 2-3 degrees and I have yet to obtain one. It's very depressing. My self esteem and self worth is relatively low because I am stuck with no future working dead end jobs, which I know I can do better. My life literally have no purpose. All through school I have struggle with numbers. I can't seem to remember steps in solving problems, so I mix them up and get the wrong answer every time. It's quite pathetic. I've worked harder in math than any other subjects and I have fail to succeed each and every time. Tutors, math apps, tons of books and it just doesn't stick. Now in my mid twenties in a quest to finding a solution, I have stumble upon dyscalculia. I have been calling my states board of education to schedule a testing appointment, but each time I call I get the voicemail. If anyone in central Florida know where I can go please help me.
When I was going to college in Florida, my college said my math requirements would be waived if I was able to be diagnosed with it. I hope you were able to get something worked out since your post was 10 months ago.
Adalynn, Hi, love your name. I can totally understand you and I believe that I have Dyscalculia as well. I've always wanted to conquer Mathematics. It has always been a great desire. I have struggled in math all of my life ALL my LIFE in college and even now. I try to avoid or stay far away from numbers and I have a business as well as an early childhood provider (the irony). I often wonder how my life would be if I could just normally understand math like others. I remember in elementary school science was my favorite subject. As I got older I learned that math was associated with science and I quickly gave up that love of science, but I replaced it with a science the social sciences, but I love earth science and physical sciences as a child. It has been a hindrance for me. I have not been diagnosed with it, but the signs are most def there. I can't count money back....I can not count money back in my mind, I add and subtract with my fingers, fractions are hell for me. I homeschool, but I don't teach my children math....why?Dyscalculia. I don't know where to start to get help. I would love to get help. I just wanted to encourage you and let you know don't give up. I struggled in math in college as well. I had to drop out because of family circumstances, but never give up keep pushing my sister. I am going through what you are going through and know you pain. You can do it!! I have a B.A. and a Master's degree with Dyscalculia. You can do!! Now, seeing this video I understand myself and I am so happy that there are others who feel the same and are going through the same things I deal with. Keep pushing forward my sister don't let this push you back keep moving and believe in yourself, put your faith to the test, get a good tutor in math (it helps) and talk to your advisor about your symptoms of Dyscalculia. I am rooting for you and I am cheering you on.....
I'm now 59 and have my whole life struggled with the concept of Math. All my school reports show "Poor understanding of math written and verbal" in them. I even had remedial classes in high school and didn't cope. Although, I can do basic math, and use my fingers to add up, I have got by. If it's possible I take a number to the nearest 10 and take off the other number to get my answer, eg: 19 + 8 = 27. I would make that 20 + 7 = 27.
This is the first time I've ever heard of this. Maybe now I'll understand why I have always had such a problem with math. I didn't learn my multiplication tables until I was 15. I just kept getting passed on to the next grade until I switched schools and got into trouble and that school got me a one one teacher. Then I learned some math. I did quit school because I didn't want to be put in special education for one subject. I already had a hard enough time without getting bullied more. I did get my GED later on. I look forward to hearing more of the video. I just barely heard anything and had to comment. Thanks everyone and thank you to the person or persons that uploaded this video!
I’m a 44 year old man and had to stop watching this part way in because it made me cry. I grew up with dyscalculia along with a motor deficit in my hand writing. I can count to infinity, no problem, but visualization, order of operations and patterns were and are major problems for me. It killed my self esteem to have to go to LD classes, the majority of my teachers didn’t believe that I had anything wrong with me, that I was either dumb or worse, just lazy. In college I had to threaten to sue to stay in certain classes because the professors didn’t want to accommodate me. I dreamed of becoming an electrical engineer, but had to settle on being a technician because there was no way I could have survived the math. Where I work it’s more of the same, it’s all about title rather than ability, and I find most engineers hardly use the level of math their degree required. While I feel fortunate for making it as far as I have despite it, it really has robbed me of so many things in my life. I don’t think I can finish this video. It just makes me sad.
My whole life I’ve struggled with anxiety and high cortisol. I can’t believe at 48 years old, I’m just learning about Discalculia. I’ve isolated myself for fear of people discovering how hard simple things are for me.🥺🙏🏻
I was diagnosed with a ‘math learning disability’ is that the same thing? Also, with my disabilities, I feel really stupid, so to the people feeling the same, you are not alone.
You are not alone. I am excellent in all other areas, hell, i'm currently learning a 3rd language but when it comes to math....it's as if it goes through one ear and out the other. No matter how hard I try, how hard I put effort into math, it's very difficult. I can't even solve the most simpliest problems without running into a few bumps, when I try it takes me 15 mins to solve for 1 problem where it should take me 3 mins for most. I am close to getting my degree but math is holding me back.
It sucks,I have this. They never told me in school or tried to help me learn to cope with it,just dumbed down my work and said I was slow. My dad thought it was all BS and I was just lazy. I also have disgraphia. I had to do research on my own as an adult.
Money is the worst thing for me, and mental math. I can't do it, and it frustrates me so much to the point of tears. It's so nice to have a fiance who understands me and helps out with any math stuff. If he catches me calling myself stupid he tells me it's not my fault. I still can't help but feel like I'm an idiot because I can't process what others consider very basic math.
I failed in Calculus and Principle of Accounting last term. Tried really hard and passed those two after the retakes. This term, I failed another 2, which is Statistics and Financial Management! This condition has really been haunting me..
I’m an adult and I think I had this (might still have this) as a child. I failed pre-algebra thrice. I don’t know why people didn’t catch on. I use crutches to this day. I visualize “friendly” sets of numbers to do simple addition and subtraction. For example my brain cannot do 7+5 without counting the 5 aloud (or with my fingers) but after the 3rd grade this is too embarrassing so I learned that I can redistribute numbers to pairs and memorize the answer. 7+5 is the same as 6+6 so I can get to 12 without adding just remembering. Multiplication in my head is a struggle and division is impossible. It’s humiliating. 🙈 I can’t believe I’m just now able to understand these challenges I have without feeling like I am making it up. I just say I’m math-stupid. Or say “my brain doesn’t do math”… I think I may actually have this LD.
I just want to say thank you for taking the time to make this video and posting it. As someone who's dyscalculia wasn't diagnosed at school I am in favour of anything that raises awareness about the condition and eductaes people about it. Hopefully fewer children, and adults, will have to suffer as I did.
I used to joke to people that I'm so horrible at math that I'm dyslexic with numbers. Then one day about a couple of years ago, I decided to look it up to see if it was an actual thing. It explains a lot about me growing up and still to this day. I'm not sure how I made it thru school. I distinctly remember my parents frustration trying to teach me how to tell time on a clock or on a watch as a kid. And I just could not get it. I still have issues with right and left. Whenever we travel my bf is the driver and I help navigate but I always get left and right mixed up. At my job I need to know liquid measurements and I still struggle. Do people with dyscalculia struggle with time management?
Dyscalculia even affects my knitting and crochet patterns with multiples of different rows. I usually give up on some patterns that I really like to do. Dishcloths are no problem.
After being concieved by mom in 1967, she had been seriously ill and almost died while iam being conceived, She had expected when her baby will be born it would not be a normal kid because she took loads of medications, So there i was, i have Dyscalculia and since childhood it just seem to be a cursed, i got problems, memorizing my multiplication tables and things in number to be memorized, i never seems to absorb and process it in my brain, and after learning it flies outside my mind---I suffered a lot since grade school, i hated school because i felt that iam not a normal kid at all-I survived school until graduating from art school which doesnt require math on its class, Now iam 51, and became an art director, ---All these years i wondered how i survived this world of numbers trying to avoid it in all the jobs i had been, and having my family to worry about thier support, I believe its a real cakewalk.
Yes, I have most of the symptoms of Dyscalculia. My timekeeping has always been bad, and I can never keep track of time. Simple maths is a struggle, I can't do calculations in my head, I have to use my fingers to help me. I always get numbers mixed-up.
I was definitely not aware that this is a thing until right now I am helping a friend with his resume and realize that it's hard for him to quantify his impact on his job and he told me about this. Personally, I think it is important for people with it to educate the people around them about what this is and how it affects them. I was very thankful that my friend brought this up to me so it allowed me to help him in much more creative ways. This doesn't mean the person with it doesn't do their share of work but it means that we gotta work together differently and more creatively. Like other comments mentioned, it's not impossible for people with dyscalculia to learn a sense of numbers, it would just be harder. And I believe it is up to the ones around them to help them to get through these hurdles with love.
It's frustrating when you want to go to college, but you can't because they will not work with you. I want a Spanish degree, which has nothing to do with math.
Are you in the U.S? I have a difficult time with math as well but only needed a math credit to get my degree. I took the easiest math class available to me and passed (luckily).
I grew up and went though school in the 70’s, and I think I have a learning disability with numbers. It was hard for me because back in 70’s they punished you instead of helping the student like they do today. I did graduate from high school but I think they just passed me just get rid of me. Also I never considered going to college because I didn’t think I could make it.
@@maria-melek I would just keep all the W2 forms I get from the company I work for to do my taxes and anything else keep papers because sometimes you use it for tax deductions. I went to a tax preparer like Jackson Hewitt or H&R Block to have them help me with paperwork. They do charge a fee, but it’s not that bad. Now many years later I’m part owner of a family business and we have tax accounting company take care of it and I do pay more but taxes for a company is more complicated than just single person.
Hi, Dr. Horowitz. To me, the most interesting in the video is at the very end: anxiety. Anxiety is perhaps the true root of all the phenomena above it there on your flip chart. I see it every day with my high school seniors. I teach a Algebra II and Precal at a high school for learning disorders. So many of my students' main obstacle to learning and performance is anxiety. It's anxiety that's been festering untreated throughout their entire academic life, and by junior or senior year, it's calcified. I feel that unless theisanxiety is addressed with intensive therapy, all the educational accommodations in the world (small classrooms, multi-modal teaching, extra time on assignments, etc) won't be effective.
Nicholas DeMaio i know exactly what you mean since i've been getting therapy for my anxiety recently and figured out i can't perform well in division and multiplications tasks without a calculator
Actually, my anxiety when dealing with math was a manifestation of *years* of unrecognized dyscalculia, and being told over and over I was just lazy, or unmotivated, or stubborn, or just needed to try harder. The *result* of unaddressed learning differences and challenges is anxiety, not the other way around.
There's a name for it?? I'm not thick? Or "making it up"? I'm 45, can't read clocks without working it out🤷 can't do maths in my head🤷 the numbers don't stay there! Can't use a calculator, still wrong, don't know how🤷. Can't measure, can't judge timing & distance. Cried much over math. Can give you an answer, it COULD be right, probably wrong, don't know how🤷 I'm really good at reading & spelling. My friend has dyslexia, struggles to read & write, however he's like a human maths/numbers machine. We're not all good at both, we're not making it up, it's not "easy", we just cannot read numbers! Total foreign language. Thankyou for upload. Hasn't cured me at all but now I know I'm not alone & has buzzed me up 🐝🐝
I've always had difficulty learning in just about any subject and ended up in "special classes" all the time without ever being diagnosed with any learning disability. I even took a test to see if I had ADD etc but nope, nothing was found. At the end of the testing, they said it might just be anxiety. Very confusing...
Oh my goodness this comments section..... I'm in a pile of tears... I began to have the MOST trouble in 3rd grade. Now seeing these symptoms in my child is just awful. Here to learn more!!! ❤
I was bullied when I moved schools unexpectedly in the beginning of 3rd grade, that experience really affected me. I wouldn’t ask questions because I was afraid of people laughing at me. From 4-5th grade I used to cry almost every morning at school instead of eating breakfast and playing with other kids, I felt alone, overwhelmed and abandoned even at home. I quickly realized I couldn’t do math correctly I would ask teachers after lecture but they wouldn’t do much and I felt so stupid and anxious, in middle it got worse I somehow got an A in math once, but after it was either D’s or F’s, everyone was good except for me and the teachers were rude, it made me feel even more anxious and depressed and I once had a teacher who was strict on math, I went to summer school for it and once resigned and left home crying because I felt stupid and frustrated, I always avoided and made excuses or stories up when my friends would ask about math or my math grades. I also had been struggling with depression, anxiety and memory problems since I moved to that damn school in 3rd grade. I didn’t graduate because of math and the rest of my problems and my family never cared for me, they would just scold me and be disappointed in me as always . I’ve had a few jobs and tried to finish school but my mind holds me back and my inability to do math. I feel so lost and stuck and horrible I want to study psychology and make my mom proud and overcome all negativities. I love history too, and geography, I write and have been writing lyrics since I was in 6th grade, I speak 2 languages learning another one. But I felt useless because none are as important as math is. But I feel like I’m scared and I don’t have money or don’t know where to start or get help. I honestly feel like a lost case.
I excelled in every school subject except mathematics and I never understood why. Teachers would explain formulas (often more than once) and I would understand, but as soon as I had to use these formulas (5 minutes later) I would get confused. NOW I understand why.
I have two degrees; A B.A. in Communications and a masters in journalism. I've been an adjunct professor for over thirteen years but I can't get a full time job without a doctorate. I love college and want a PhD more than anything but I can't get past the math section. Every time I see algebra I feel my blood boiling! These damned admissions tests have almost nothing to do with the subject I'm studying and yet i'm denied any opportunity to go farther! Logic problems on the LSAT are almost as bad. I spent three minutes reading one of the problems and I was furious! Study guides are useless and the ones who offer classes and tutoring charge over $2000 per class. It's not a fair system and I want it to change!
I’ve always struggled with math. Was always in remedial math growing up while being extremely good at english and history. When I was in a normal math class it always gave me so much anxiety. I remember wanting to burst out into tears during math class once, back when I was in hs because I just felt that stupid. Would always ask myself why I had to be so dumb compared to the other students in math class. Looking back, I most probably have dyscalculia.
Its a good thing that this is poited out more and more these days, it wasnt when i was a kid. Worked my way through though, now iam trying to get my master degree to be a math specialist Remdeialteacher. Couldnt get into teacher school because of the national math test, workd my way around it and now becoming a remedial teacher that explains math to children. I believe its because i cant do math myself (without the help methods) i can explain it so much better to kids that struggle.
I am a 35 years old and I can't calculate a simple numbers in head I always have a big problem with a math in a school and I feel very bad because of that. In time when I was a kid they didn't recognize my problem, because my teachers think I am just stupid or lazy.
I was tested three times in my life and was in special ed math my entire school career. All they could tell me was I had an LD in math and that I was ADD/ADHD even when I when I went to the job disabilites offices when they had me tested thats all they could tell me! glad to know theres FINALLY a name and an explanation, explains why I get certain numbers mixed up at work too
I bet you could! I have pretty severe dyscalculia and I was able to able have some retail jobs. I remember being a junior in college and one day counting change finally made sense to me. Something just clicked.
i have been in retail over 10 years. the register counts it for you and i have to triple count change when i giving it back. however there are different degrees of it and it affects people differently in some sense. it just frustrating when i put in the wrong amount and i have to grab a calculator. i have to do that even on the easiest math and sometimes people look at me crazy. i get embarrassed but i found you can sometimes put it off on the register..."something like dang register its doing it again hold on" haha. i read change backwards sometimes when giving it back to them and they will ask "are you dyslexic?"
I have severe dyscalculia but have worked in retail for 5 years and am recently made a supervisor where I have to cash up the till and deal with more money. I found it really scary at first but thanks to understanding colleagues it really helped. Luckily now for us computers and tills do all the number work for us! X
Thank so much for this wonderful awesome video on Dyscalcuia I can’t handle money everything you talk about on this video I feel when I tried to math. I didn’t know that was a name for this problem. I was born with Cerebral palsy and one of things I cannot comprehend is the Math subject. I tried to but with no fail I gave up on my Math,To keep my at pace. I do have a gift with writing. I wrote Three Books and published them. Jane
I'm getting tested on Wednesday soon because no matter how hard I study and work my tail off, I am still failing my math class here in college. I have always my whole entire life struggled with math. My story is complex as to why I think I may have a learning disability period. The big day is Wednesday morning and that will affect my whole life no matter the outcome!!
Dyscalculia has literally gave me panic attacks and anxiety since I was 7, no matter how much I revised and studied I just could not count, I couldn’t learn my additions, never learned divisions or any math exercises till this day I struggle, my teacher was very mean he couldn’t understand why I wasn’t able to do my math and he would humiliate me in front of everyone call me constantly at the board in front of everyone to ask me to resolve a math problem, I couldn’t do even the easiest ones, my class mates would laugh at me, I dreaded going to school for that reason and I hated school with all my heart, I remember that as soon as my teacher called my name I would have a full blown panic attack, it’s the worst thing that can happen to a child. I always thought I was stupid, it has impacted my life in so many ways that it angers me, I didn’t want to go to uni because I knew there would be math, I didn’t want to choose some Careers because I knew there was math involved, and that’s why now at 30 I am a nurse, I’ve learned to hide it so much, people never understand why I can’t do my math I am very brilliant academically, I speak 6 languages fluently and I could learn another one very easily, I can read and write very well too but I just can’t do my math, I even struggle with reading the time I have to constantly count the numbers, I’m a quick thinker but as soon as there is a number involved I just can’t grasp the notion.
I seem to only have trouble with basic arithmetic. Particularly with subtraction. Particularly with odd numbers. To which hinder higher echelon math such as long division. Multiplication not as much. But this in turn affects my ability to do algebra on paper I certainly can't do things in my head like a lot of people can I have to physically put the number somewhere on paper or count my fingers. Geometry I'm a wiz with though. Do you think that means dyscalcula or just bad at math?
I missed 2nd or 3rd grade because of childhood trauma. Got severally behind. As an adult, I have no math foundation, much anxiety over math, i would hyperventilate in class. I remember finding a tutor, when i told him my problem he laughed. That set me back, I'm an. "A" study in subjects because I would hide away with books. Is it too late as an adult, I learned to compensate.
I remember back when I was a kid like in 4th or 5th grade. Me and my friends were playing outside as usual and then my friends started asking each other math problems and then they started asking me... Then that's when it bugged me I was so nervous and embarrassed because I was the only one who didn't really understand those questions they were asking... And they didn't know it. Although I was a grade higher than them I didn't know what to say I always told them "We're not learning that yet." Or Simply "I don't know" Ugh I was so embarrassed and ashamed and felt stupid even though they just replied saying "Oh okay" and didn't bug me about it or make fun of me. Still, I felt very stupid, yet I do so well with any other subject. And then now I'm discovering that this is a real disability and that's why I've been struggling with math my whole life. It hit me and I felt kinda depressed. Still to this day I cannot solve basic math problems and sometimes it stills bugs me today and didn't even bother trying to graduate High School because of it. So pretty much instead of trying harder to learn it I wanted to run away from it, having nothing to do with it at all.
I have phonological dyslexia and I have dyscalculia and I’m waiting for my results to see if I have ADHD it really make my life hard especially since I’m only a 15 year old girl seeing people who are like me make me realise I’m not alone, so thank you.
I think all math teacher should know about the term and know how to diagnose it as well....and if not diagnose at least have the ability to send a student to get diagnosed.
The only reason I was diagnosed as an adult in college is because a math teacher asked me "Have you ever been evaluated for a learning disability?" And no, I hadn't. I score A's and B's in everything but Math. If every Math teacher knew and appreciated the magnitude of this LD, we'd have better success with younger students.
I’m 43 , had it all my life , nothing they ever did helped , I struggled and never went further than Alg 1 . I barely passed that in HS . It always pissed me off that the one subject you better do well in is math , if you wanna go to college . They told me it’s no big deal , you’ll just have to work a little harder , they did t stop to think that it’s impossible to work at all w out tools , oh and it’s dark .
I struggled through math when I was in elementary school basically learning none of it. In middle school and high school I had to take two math classes every year to catch up my mother was very patient with me and helped me greatly once I left the public school system. I managed to go to community college and using all the resources at my disposal and a TI-84 calculator achieve my associate's degree. Now that I'm working on my bachelor's degree I'm struggling greatly because they took using the TI-84 off the table for the exam and so I make constant errors. I'm not sure if I have this or not although when I was young I couldn't distinguish left or right I still feel terrible when I play a game because I do not feel confident keeping score. I'm unable to to do very simple math in my head. I'm curious of trying to find a way in which to actually get tested by somebody to see if I have this because part of me just wants to know at this point. When I was a child they were trying to diagnose me with something or another but my parents were able to sort of intervene to prevent this.
Ugh I swear I have this. Until I left private school after kindergarten, I had a HUGE issue with trying to execute anything math. I always was the last person on a math test to finish, and was the slowest on a worksheet. I'm 20 and I still use my fingers, and re-do counting my fingers just in case and sometimes I come up with a different answer. My mother has always been in an 'in denial' mode with any possible learning issues I have, I always felt like I had and still have dsycalculia and ADD.
It's like i understand math pretty well. I can feel somehow, but it I just cannot visualize any of it in my head. So if i have to subtract 56 from 143 i feel clueless. Something about the 143 going to 100, then having to count back how much i still need to subtract from the remaining 100 is just something my brain cannot process. I feel like i should be able to visualize like i can do with words. But when it comes to numbers in my mind it all just goes to black. I have to use my fingers and memorize so much at once that i end up forgetting what i was calculating. It used to give me a lot of anxiety as a kid & teenager. I got to drop math from my study all toghetter in high school, wish i hadn't. I must say that i've grown a lot and i understand math much better now. As long as i can use a calculator and pen + paper it's not so bad. It's never going to be easy but the harder we have to work the prouder we get to feel when we accomplish it.
All my life, I thought I was extremely stupid. Every other subject I was good in or decent in. But math... It was the very bane of my learning career. My dad was an asshole with it too. He would put me on the spot with math questions , that he knew I had trouble with. He made it known that I wasn't good with money and ridicule me for it. I would panic and try to use my fingers to count. It helped me in a sense. He would compare me to my younger sister and say " your little sister can do math easily? If she can do it, why can't you?" As if I wasn't trying my best. It's not that I wouldn't do it. I Couldn't do it. After a while I had gave up, and started failing school. I was in special ed classes, I didn't really care though. I found my motivation in my senior year, and graduated. I'm just happy to know there is a name to my struggle.
I think I have this i totally suck at math I've tried so hard to learn but I can't. I can't do mental math, I count on my fingers. I don't remember my time tables, i still can't do division i start college in two weeks what can i do
I can relate to many of these comments. Summer school, being punished, being teased, small classes, anxiety, working 10x harder than others and still not getting it right. Anyways. I'm a lawyer now.
i struggle with alot of things embrassed to say but time confuses me and others like alot of maths never stays in my heads falls out sometimes i wish i was dyslexic :(
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Why are schools not helping children with this ? I got diagnosed at 19 and had to arrange and pay for it myself. I always got the highest grades and then sucked at math. Fairly obvious.
what's hard about having dyscalculia isn't the fact that i can't do math to save my life but that no one knows that it's a diagnose that exists so people think i'm just being dumb or lazy.
And don't forget "You're not paying attention." If I had a dime for every time I heard that I would just hire someone to do all my math.
I feel your pain. I have had it all my life. I’m 35 so it was not really heard of when I was at school although it was by the time I got to university and I did get support. For me it’s like the numbers have a life of their own I don’t read them always correctly so I’ll get to the wrong answer even though I’ve got the method right. This means that all my life I’ve had to quadruple check my answers to check they are right because I can’t trust my brain fully. My Mum and Dad are both exceptional mathematicians so they found it very hard to understand . I eventually found an excellent private tutor that was so patient and an expert in understanding where and how my mistakes were made. Finding a teacher like this is very hard. I got lucky and I didn’t just pass my Maths in the end I got an A . I have many achievements in my life but my GCSE maths was my greatest because it was the hardest thing I ever did (for me) and took me 4 attempts. Never mind all my degrees and exams in music that I’ve got - this for me was the greatest because it was the hardest.
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Righttt I have that problem before my social worker told me I might have a learning disability I searched right away and at first my teacher thought I didn’t want to do it or just give up
becka xo same
I have Dyscalculia and it effects me in my job.I work in retail and I hate when customers give me more change after I've already given them change and then I have to use mental math.Most of the time (especially when the store is busy) I can't seem to figure out the new change amount.I get so embarrassed and some customers make comments, mean comments.I am good at my job and like it but being on register scares me.
I can totally relate.
Kim Cooksey that's y I avoid cashier jobs
unsure if i have Dyscalculia i can do mathematics but have always been poor at mental math, in my current job the manager and other workers have a little clique and take great pleasure in randomly asking me random sums, and when i don't give an answer in like 5 seconds they all get on the high horses and really go at me, yes it sucks in an ideal world id just quit the job and look for another but alas stuck there for now.
Tiger Balm1978 I'm so sorry. That must be like torture! I've been judged for years by my father and repeatedly mocked by my brother for being 'bad' at maths. He knew it was embarrassing for me, so he'd up the humiliation by telling other people how bad I was at maths. Very damaging for a young person and as an adult.
@@TigerBalm-mz7yr omg thats terrible!! Management should really know better!! I'm pretty sure it's illegal to do that to someone that has an LD :/ is there a union you could go to for help?? I hope you resolved the matter with your managers or found a new place to work :/
I always thought I was an idiot bc i could count back change, read a clock, understand left and right, do simple math in my head. I just found out today that I will have to test for dyscalculia to help me through college courses like calculus 1 through 3. It is harder for me, but nothing is impossible. If i can do it, anyone can do it!
I believe in you
OMG i am just the SAME
It’s horrible
I’m curious, did you make it through? Did you get accommodations? If so what accommodations?
I have the same issue, If it wasn't for my scar on my left arm I could have never known where my right and left is
Dorcas Kiv omg 😮 I’m the same way every time someone say move right I have to look at a birthmark on my right wrist
I always thought I was an idiot...
I'm in 7th grade and can't do much math over a 3rd grade level. I can only understand the simple stuff...like the basics. This helped. Thank you.
Don't feel bad kiddo! I struggled with 4th grade level math when I was in 12th grade, And I still do. Hang in there!
I'm sorry that Math is this way for you. l would like to tell you (and hope it helps), that I was diagnosed with dyscalculia in the fifth grade and spent 6,7,8,9, 10,11 and 12TH. grades getting special help for my disability. 1996 was my senior year and I tested positive again then for Dyscalculia. I found out at that time that my comprehension in Math was at a level of a sixth or seventh grader. I went on to TRY college in 1997 and after six years with no degree I gave up and settled for a job I needed to survive instead of a carreer I wanted. Here I am now 23 years later and at age 42. I just tested myself yesterday and I am no better at math now then I was at age 17! I also have never worked in a career I wanted, all because of my learning disabiIity in and my fear of math! PLEASE don't be like me, get the help you need NOW, and overcome this! Talk to your parents and teachers! Being tested for and diagnosed disabled qualifies you for extra help in class, extra time to take tests and free tutoring! YOU CAN DO IT! BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!
@ASG66 What did you do to overcome your difficulties with math? Was it Solo private/study, tutoring or going back to school ?
SAME.
Same, I think I have dyscalculia but not sure, I can do addition and subtraction okay but I'm really bad at multiplication and division I can't do for the life of me, I don't know if I'm sposed to add or subtract or what ITS HARRDDD and my mom won't even listen to me when I tell her the list of things that it says I might be bad at, a lot of them I struggle with like telling left from right, I have to make my hand in an L to know, and I count with my fingers. I feel like Im just really stupid at math and it doesn't feel good, I wish my mom would just have me do a test to see if I have it or not so that I know. Because if I do have it I might not feel as dumb, but if I don't that's going to be soul crushing because then I know I'm just stupid.
almost cried reading the comment section.... its not just me struggling...
IKR??? Growing up, I thought I was such an idiot for never understanding basic math. My dad always became so frustrated and angry teaching me the basics because I often forgot what he taught and could never fully understand the concept. No matter how hard I tried and practiced, nothing ever stuck. High school was the worst. The teacher would call on me, asking the most basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, or division problem and I would get it wrong every time. It was such an embarrassing experience. I never understood why this was. I was fine in other subjects except math. Now it all makes sense! And the fact that others experienced this too makes me feel hopeful!
Marielle Morris that's exactly how I felt too! 👍
This Girl Absolutely! I struggled all through Primary and Secondary school. I was told once a long time ago by a special education teacher, that I showed symptoms of having Dyscaculia. I had no idea what is was and I never researched it. I'm 32 now and have only just researched it. Tbh, right now I feel like crying myself because of the many awful years of embarrassment, humiliation and mockery and this is mainly by my own relatives. Oh i agree Maths lessons were hell at school! I was in set 10 - lowest set possible. I got a great big 'F' for GCSE maths. I wish I did something about it earlier in life.
monalisasmile same i think this is me I always forget. I just I was dumb this video has made me realise
AndromeDa1 My mom was the same way. I DREADED HOMEWORK!
I'm so glad it's over. I never went to collage either.
This video and its comments section has me in tears. EVERYTHING resonates with me and explains so much. As a child, I had no difficulties with language. I learned to read at 2 years old, and by the time I entered kindergarten at 4, I knew my alphabet and could read/write my name, days of the week, simple sentences, etc.
But numbers and math...they never made *sense* to me like they did everyone else. Learning arithmetic throughout elementary school was a NIGHTMARE. My parents struggled to help me with math homework because I just couldn't *grasp* any of the numerical concepts. The only way I was able to learn multiplication was by memorizing the tables (I had a good memory). However, I couldn't do mental math like others. I was still counting on my fingers at 14 in my pre-algebra class, and I didn't understand how to read an analog clock until I was 12.
It's a relief to know that I'm not alone, but it breaks my heart to see so many of us were called stupid and dumb when in reality, we weren't.
We weren't dumb or stupid, we are crippled
OMG Yesssss!
Girl I’m 31 and I feel this way! I never knew this was a thing, till today! I always said to myself I’m just awful at math, numbers give me phobia! But this makes more sense, now that I look back to when I was in school. I struggled more than the average kid. Even in college I took algebra 1 part 1!! And passed with a C! that was amazing for me ! Wow I wish I knew this sooner. ❤
I'm a visual learner so while you struggled with analog clocks, it took me a bit because I wanted to be precise in pinpointing the minute hand, but I too memorized the time tables and tried to deconstruct what made them that answer in my head because at the time it took me forever to calculate multiplication in my head. 😅
I could have written your comment! Same, same, same. Learned to read on my own by watching Sesame Street at age 3 1/2. I was 4 when I started Kindergarten, and the teacher found out I could read proficiently, so she had me (and other kids who could read) read to my classmates. I could do puzzles very well as a little girl. Devoured books by the truckload! My grandfather was an MIT PHD, used a slide rule, would do math problems FOR FUN. My brother is a math genius like our grandfather, but has dyslexia.
Fast forward to 2nd grade. Math tutors from then on; not being able to understand how to do long division or where to put the numbers. The concepts of numbers? Nope, it's not a thing. "You're just not applying yourself", "It'll just click one day". Arguments with my mom about math and me not studying hard enough. High school algebra,, geometry, etc - I couldn't retain what sorts of formulas to use, or what they meant. Any number sets or multiplication that weren't 2s, 5,s, 10s, etc. was incredibly difficult. I've gotten better with addition/subtraction over the years, and can manage to figure out a 20%+ tip at a restaurant (10% of the total, then double that and add a couple extra dollars), give $21.30 for an $10.30 order at the cash register and know I'll get $10 back. Lately, I can roughly gauge what my word score will be in WWF. That's about it. I still get the "you're dumb at math" crap from my mom, and I'm in my 50s. I had no idea dyscalculia even existed until recently.
When I was a child (back in the early 80's) I was diagnosed with "learning disabilities", they never gave anything specific. Looking back at my life I can safely say it's Dyscalculia because I have had and continue to have difficulties in many of the areas outlined in the video. When I was in school mental math was stressed and I had many calculators taken away from me (and never given back the damn thieves). The teachers would always say something along the lines of "what would you do if you didn't have a calculator?". I would tell them that I always plan to have one with me and to this day I carry one at all times (some of the reasons I love smartphones is the calculator, calendar, clock, and GPS apps).
Jeff Liggett omg I know exactly what you mean! I’m a 1980’s baby too and the teachers didn’t understand it at all back then.
Same for me. I later found out that is I use a calculator enough eventually the answer will pop into my head while punching in the numbers. Years of building houses has helped tons with my ability to understand numbers
totally relatable, we were screwed in this regard in 80s. you werent alone! even willingly went to confession for using calculator (privately - crikey) >
@@oppressednolonger1497 LOL
I'm 30 years old doing a science degree, and Its the math component that affects me the most.
BBMEE SCI I’m not going to self diagnose, but I do exhibit several of the symptoms described in my recent research (I count with my fingers still, I have trouble reporting numbers to others, I never learned my times tables despite working on it for awhile, etc) I’m nervous because I would like to go into the Sciences. How would you recommend I go through with this? How do I manage my symptoms? (Dyscalculia or not) Thanks :)
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Dyscalculia has literally gave me panic attacks and anxiety since I was 7, no matter how much I revised and studied I just could not count, I couldn’t learn my additions, never learned divisions or any math exercises till this day I struggle, my teacher was very mean he couldn’t understand why I wasn’t able to do my math and he would humiliate me in front of everyone call me constantly at the board in front of everyone to ask me to resolve a math problem, I couldn’t do even the easiest ones, my class mates would laugh at me, I dreaded going to school for that reason and I hated school with all my heart, I remember that as soon as my teacher called my name I would have a full blown panic attack, it’s the worst thing that can happen to a child. I always thought I was stupid, it has impacted my life in so many ways that it angers me, I didn’t want to go to uni because I knew there would be math, I didn’t want to choose some Careers because I knew there was math involved, and that’s why now at 30 I am a nurse, I’ve learned to hide it so much, people never understand why I can’t do my math I am very brilliant academically, I speak 6 languages fluently and I could learn another one very easily, I can read and write very well too but I just can’t do my math, I even struggle with reading the time I have to constantly count the numbers, I’m a quick thinker but as soon as there is a number involved I just can’t grasp the notion.
@@HAIRHOLIC_1 it makes me so happy to read that you’re working as nurse a because that is the field that I would like to go into as well. I still have to take college algebra and statistics but I am at an elementary math level and it’s frustrating because everything else academically I excel; except for math it has always been a struggle for me since I was a little girl but if you can become a nurse so can I. Thank you for sharing your story.
@@amarieimani876 exactly you can do everything you want, on top of it if you get diagnosed there are ways around it now, they didn’t have them back in the days, so I suggest you get diagnosed and everything will be much easier for you and you’ll be able to achieve all of your goals, wish u all the best❤️🙏
I grew up with undiagnosed ADHD and Dyscalculia. I only found out that I have it when one of my children was diagnosed with it. As I was filling in the forms for him at the Neurologist's office, I recognized all of the symptoms. I cried with relief when I realized I have it. All during my childhood years I was told almost daily that I was lazy, stupid, and just didn't WANT to learn. I had to stay after school for extra help with Math, go to summer school every year, and I still couldn't understand it. I hated school because of it. I had countless sleepless nights dreading the following day at school. I used to feel sick every morning before school, because I couldn't do my Math homework. I felt so inferior to my classmates. I thought about suicide so many times. I was picked on at school, mocked and ridiculed. I only had a few friends in my school years. My parents used to get so mad at me for not "doing my best" at school. I wanted to become a veterinarian or Pediatrician and couldn't finish high school because of the damn Math. This evil learning disability destroyed my childhood, and my life. I still struggle socially. I find it hard to mix with people at times, because I still feel inferior. Anytime numbers come up, I panic inside. I have to use my tip calculator in my phone, which saves me. My GPS in my car has given me the freedom to drive to wherever I like. My husband still refuses to believe I have this disability.
I understand you, because I had this same experience as a kid. 😔
You're worth more than your own husband not believing you ❤️
My kid is going through this is there a test i can give him or the type of evaluation she should have?
You are not alone. You literally explained my whole life. I wish I could hug you.❤
I had a similar issue in school. I would get bullied badly by my peers because I could never complete my maths work in time. My teacher saw that I was struggling and refused to help me with my work. Whenever I asked for help she refused and just said it was just “maths anxiety” and I would overcome it eventually. Due to that traumatic experience I now find it hard to do maths without having a panic attack.
I am in a community college and I have to tell you, the colleges don't like giving accommodations to people with learning disabilities. They will drag their feet on this issue. If you have Dyscalculia you have the right to these accomodations, and they can include the right to a four function calculator during class or testing time, extended testing time (time and a half or double time), the right for a distraction free environment, and the right to use basic graphs and color charts as needed.
Absolutely! I had to threaten to sue the school just to stay in a class. The professor did not want to accommodate me what-so-ever. She publicly shamed me, then drug me out in the hall to tell me I had to drop her class or she would straight up fail me because there was no way she was going to “waste her time on my problems”. I had to contact an attorney that specialized in educational disabilities and he filed a formal complaint on my behalf with the school and said the next action would be a lawsuit. Needless to say going to her class that semester was a bit uncomfortable, but I did pass. It’s been a roadblock for me my entire life. Teachers that didn’t believe in learning disabilities and then peers that thought I was getting special treatment somehow. If they only knew how bad it was / is.
I’ve been diagnosed with dyscalculia twice, and the most difficult part of it for me is so extreme that I’m almost hesitant to tell you because it sounds beyond belief. I have more incredible trouble with spatial orientation than I can describe. I’m 61 and I’ve lived in the same small town I was born in all of my life, but I get lost in it as easily as I would if you dropped me off in a metropolis I’d never seen, so for me the invention of GPS navigators has been nothing less than life changing.
Diagnosed twice, could have been more times, don't ask me 😂
@@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc That’s hilarious and from now on I’ll be saying it!
@@GrantTarredus Don't count on it getting a laugh
@@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc I won’t… I can’t count!
@@GrantTarredus Yep, that was the joke.
I'm in the same boat mate. At least we know it's a thing now.
Stopped me from going to Grammar school, and I can't budget my money.
I'm just reading the comments and even though this youtube video was posted over five years ago, it still makes me feel so good that I'm not the only one struggling with this!! It's reasuring to know that somewhere out I've got a dyscalculia family :)
I knew from a young age I had a problem with numbers. In primary school (junior school) in the mornings we had to go round the class and take turns at verbally spelling a given word then we had to solve. Mental arithmetic problems. It caused me so much anxiety and dread every day. I was fine with all other subjects but anything to doth numbers. Couldn’t fathom it. On to High school I was in lowest class for arithmetic, I asked if I could join the remedial group but was refused because I was good at all other subjects. Arithmetic and math has caused me many issues in my life and I dropped out of courses or applying for jobs due to these issues. I learned about dyscalculia eventually and the relief that I had a legitimate problem was immense. I was able to openly explain to people when needed, that I had this issue and it made a big difference in many aspects of my life.
I won the LD jackpot
Dyscalculia
Dyslexia
Severe ADHD
Education in the 60's and 70's was such a joy. Every report card said I was not living up to my potential. My teachers came out of the "Teach by humiliation" school of teaching. If we humiliate the student enough in front of their peers they will study harder. I was bullied by the teachers along with the students.
My father was a mathematical genius and could not comprehend my total inability to do math.
Adulting is no joy either. Thank the Goddess for Tip Apps, Sale % Apps, and calculators on our phones.
I married a guy who is brilliant in math. He has a hard time writing and spelling. Perfect union! We worked together for many years and now we are both more experienced with math and writing. A great deal of overcoming a learning difficulty is gaining loads of experience.
I've only been diagnosed with dyscalculia in my 40's it explains so much about my early life and my insecurities and always feeling 'stupid'. School was hell. I was labeled stupid and dumb, my fourth grade teacher told my parents "She will probably get a job when she's an adult, she has a nice smile". My parent thought I was lazy. My grade 6 teacher in 1986 used to stand me up in front of the class to make me do maths problems on the blackboard, saying I could not sit down until I'd finished showing the class, I'd just stand there frozen and mute, humiliated and trying not to cry....he did it because he thought it was funny. Mr MacDowel I STILL HATE YOU. My insecurities have plagued me though out my life and held me back. I still can't remember my times tables, numbers make no sense to me, they jumble up and have no 'meaning' I can grasp onto. I'm fine with everyday life and simple calculations if I'm not stressed/under pressure and I still secretly count on my fingers sometimes. It's so good to read all these comments and know I wasn't stupid all those years and I'm not alone and we are ok.
Parents often try to tell me in groups on fb... or family... why do dig and make her get evaluations just let her be a kid instead of lookin for what's wrong? The other day my 11 yr old said thx mom for doing that could u imagine if I was in regular school trying to get through. I would have thought was so dumb and incapable. Myheart hurts for other kids whose parents won't investigate. It causes lifetime esteem issues. Truant behavior. Lack of confidence. Anxiety depression. It's sad
This is "J". Everything you just described was exactly how I was treated in school growing up. It was a 'nightmare'. I had low self esteem and kids viewed me as the 'dumb kid'. I hated school because of it.
I was just told I had "difficulties with math" growing up but wasn't officially diagnosed dyscalculic until last year. Thankfully that diagnosis allowed me to not have to take a math class for my degree.
I suffer from dyscalculia and ADHD (I have been diagnosed with both). I have a very hard time in math. I can't process all the numbers and write out formulas because my brain has a hard time processing all the information and numbers so I end getting the questions in math totally wrong.
This one was hard. Going from 1234 to 12.34 123.4 and so on. I was just writing numbers but not as far as that.
I have the exact same problem. I often forget which numbers I started with or they jumble up into different numbers. For example I could easily read 232 as 223. All my life I’ve just got used to quadruple checking my answers because my brain can’t be trusted 😆
I'm 42 years old and I'm in the same boat with you!
I have that double headed monster as well... Man does it suck.
I also have both, and am struggling so hard on statistics
For me, as an early educator, this is a great help to know the difference between dyslexia and dyscalculia...
Getting math questions in everyday life, being asked to answer math questions in class as fast as possible or being put in charge of a cashier were all horrible experiences of mine.
I have been diagnosed with a mild form of dyscalculia last week, thank you so much for uploading this, it has really helped me understand my difficulty a lot more.
sped teacher here!!! that's for this!! I use your videos to educate my parents about their children's disabilities ❤️
Thank you so much Dr. Sheldon. Makes me think of Dr Sheldon 'Hofstader Wolowitz', you're the best!
I Googled why I can't understand math and Dyscalculia came up. Everything then made sense. I talked to my mom and she also has this so that's just great 😭
I have seen students struggle with Math. I didn't have any idea about the term Dyscalculia. Now I will try to find a way to make them enjoying Math.
It must been heartbreaking to see these struggling math students become math illterate in their adult years
I'm one of them.
Like my mind completely freezes when finding out a precent of something despite trying my hardest, it feels like I'm just spinning my wheels into the mud
it’s not even totally about enjoying it, it’s about teaching a tangible concept.
I have Dyscalculia… and i’ve only ever been able to learn complex math from one person but it’s a real struggle
Wow. I was diagnosed with “slow fine motor skills” and my whole life I never had a name for it. I’m fucking dyslexic. I have dyscalulia and dysgraphia. I can finally do the proper research and make the changes needed to help myself succeed in life!
I think I found it, and I’m going to cry. The only thing I don’t have is logic problems I believe. I can understand any math problems as soon as you turn it into a story or riddle. But I think that’s what confused my teachers who in memory were just as confused as frustrated as I was. I’ve spent years trying to find the truth, YEARS. If this is the answer im so relieved
I am 70 years old and just recently realized that I have dyscalculia. I entered the 1st grade in 1958 and immediately had difficulty with what were termed "number papers". Unfortunately, learning disabilities were not recognized at the time (I myself could not understand why some of my classmates were unable to read, when I did it with ease). I would literally panic in 1st grade when the teacher instructed us to "pass your papers forward" and would shove my incomplete problem solving paper into my desk because I feared I would be punished for not completing it. Astoundingly, I was never approached by the teacher inquiring why I hadn't turned any work in. This caused me to develop a life long anxiety regarding mathematics. I was unable to complete a nursing degree due to my inability to comprehend the higher math classes required. Spent the majority of my life ashamed of my "stupidity" in mathematics.
Finally an explanation to my issues. Feeling relieved and want to cry. The struggle is real.
and now we have a name. Thank you!!!
I've been unable to get my High School diploma because I'm unable to pass the Math part of the SAT. I only have a High school completion. It's always depressed me for years. Always felt I was dumb. I just can't seem to get the math right. Mental math forget about it. I've always felt like a failure👎☹👎. *shrugs*
SAT isn't a normal graduation requirement, SAT and ACT are supplementary to get into college
Keep at it . I’m 35 , have always had terrible dyscalculia and I didn’t get my GCSE maths (UK exam) until I was 27. It hangs on my wall in pride. I got an A in the end with the help of two amazing tutors. It took me 4 attempts and it was the hardest thing I ever did and I’ve achieved a LOT in my life (3 degrees) but this was the hardest so it’s the certificate I display . So I believe in you. You can get there.
Hey there. I maybe late to this but as I mentioned to @Dettoll above... "Look up Nueuro linguistic Programming. (Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is a pseudoscientific approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in California, United States in the 1970s) Basically instead of saying I suck at math, say I'm smarter than math can ever be. Another example, instead of saying to yourself or others something like, "don't forget" say "do remember." This starts to reprogram your brain... heck even typing this comment helps - This starts to reprogram your brain to think differently to help retain information. Math isn't hard and you are smarter than math could ever be. Perhaps you may have an answer deep in your brain that can solve____ (I'll let you fill in that blank.)" This maybe hard but its worth a shot. So lets redo your comment. take out unable and replace it with Able. Take out the word depressed and replace it with makes me happy. take out was dumb and replace it with am a genius. remove can't and replace it with can. just remover the next sentence all together and the last sentence, 'I always feel like I have supernatural powers and spread, hope, love and happiness to everyone I speak with. Write all that out and place it wherever you look. recite it every morning when you wake up and every evening when you go to bed. Do it for the next 90 days. Don't poo poo this. Its powerful. Do it and see what happens. :)
I’m a musician studying for my Masters in Vocal Performance and Musicology, and I have a severe visual impairment, Autism, and ADHD. I was newly diagnosed with Dyscalculia a couple of weeks ago. Rhythm in music is my biggest downfall. Knowing more about this condition makes so much sense as to why counting and maintaining rhythmic patterns is so difficult for me.
I can help you with number senses .
do you know they taught this subject in the twisted non logical way......
Man this is me all the way. But I wanna' battle this. I have a huge amount of persistence and I know I'll get through it.
My daughter, age 9, was just recently diagnosed with this. Thank you for making this video, but for each step on that list, I'm remembering lesson after lesson that we had to work so hard on. It all makes sense now.
Your daughter is so lucky. I wish I haca mom like you. My mom would just yell and hit me. How is she doing now? I’m 20 and I still can’t do math.
@@maria-melek she's 16 now. Still struggles with math but otherwise a good student. Has learned many strategies and takes advantage of extra help. She'll graduate high school in 2024. She's worked hard. I'm sorry your mom wasn't supportive.
I can understood the college textbooks that I pick up on history, but my brain can't process math at a seventh grade level. I have never made above a D in math, and I probably didn't deserve half of those. I struggle with most of the concepts presented in Algebra 1 and it goes without saying that I can't handle Algebra 2, Pre-Cal, and Trig.
me too. i am disabled by this. i have been telling my family i am registering for classes but i am really not because i fear i will waste my money never able to pass a math course.
me too. i am disabled by this. i have been telling my family i am registering for classes but i am really not because i fear i will waste my money never able to pass a math course.
Relax- music walks the same neuron pathways as math. Find some music you can learn and play. Pick up the guitar, violin, piano, harmonica, or even the recorder. Learn to play (choose one) change teachers if you need to. It will make math way easier. Music is open to you.
@@pearlgirl That's not how dyscalculia works
I've been diagnosed with ADHD but never dyscalculia - but every one of the videos I've watched about it has me checking all the boxes, with only a few exceptions. Namely, I don't have trouble with left and right, and my spatial reasoning doesn't seem to be severely impacted. However, maps, clocks, sheet music, memorizing multiplication tables, and calculations in general are all relatively difficult for me. I did find recently that it is much easier for me to perform calculations when numbers are written as their names rather than as numerals. I will be getting officially tested for a diagnosis as soon as I have the opportunity, but it's very clear I have this disability. I wish I had known this all the way back in grade school; I'm approaching 40 and it has simply made everything that requires any degree of mathematical precision impossibly difficult. It's horrible to live with it in ignorance.
100% me. I was diagnosed in my sophomore year of college. However, I am currently in a Doctoral program. I win, Dyscalculia!
I developed dyscalculia after a traumatic brain injury. I was a Paratrooper. I jumped one time and my parachute didn’t open. I hit the ground hard, broke several bones, hurt my spine, hit my head, and had a stroke as a result of that. I’m fine now. You would never be able to tell I got hurt so badly today. I still run and do martial arts. I’m healthier and have more energy than people half my age. No noticeable mental or physical impairment at all. I do have several spots on my brain full of necrotic tissue though. My brain created new pathways that allow me to operate somewhat normally, but I cannot do math anymore. That ability never came back. I miss it.
I used to be brilliant in math. Now, not so much. I wanted to be a doctor and go to medical school but as a result of the injury, I barely passed algebra. I took it five times in college before I got a C. I never did master calculus. Took it 3 times in college and gave up. Never passed. I got degrees in political science and criminal justice instead and went into business. But I couldn’t get a degree in business. The math requirement was also too high. But I did take a bunch of business classes that focused on other aspects such as marketing and advertising. I hired a very good and professional accountant. That took care of the math component.
I’m successful, very successful in fact. I’ve made more money with my businesses than I ever would have as a doctor. But it was hard and very disappointing knowing I would never be able to perform surgical procedures (something I was extremely interested in) simply because I could never meet a math requirement.
It kinda sucks knowing that I’ll have to spend the rest of my life trying to find work arounds for my disability and in a lot of ways, I feel like a failure. I feel defective and stupid after my diagnosis, even though I know I’m not. My accomplishments prove this. First world problems, right?
It still sucks and I still feel like a fool for having this condition.
I’ve never told this to anybody. I’m only mentioning it now because I have the anonymity of the Internet. It still hurts though because I know something is wrong with me.
I used to play cello and when I got older, I played rhythm guitar in jam bands with friends. I played metal music exclusively. I like bands like Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God. Very complicated rhythms. I can’t play an instrument anymore because I cannot count fast enough to keep up with and remember the chord changes.
That one injury completely changes my life forever.
i think teachers need to learn how to tell the signs & symptoms for any dyslexic related disability. i was ridiculed all throughout school from teachers, kids and school staff members because i couldn't pass math and had so much difficulty with it. i wish i had known about this so much sooner so i could've done things differently.
I was placed in all kinds of math come to find out later on after high school graduation that I couldn't pass algebra.
I'm so glad that I now know the name for the thing I have, people just kept saying I was lazy and not paying attention even though I tried so hard just to make sense of this maths thing and I studied like crazy but just couldn't understand any of it. Or people just go like "oh yeah I'm bad at maths too" but they don't get that I'm actually impaired.
As an adult who believes has this, is it to late to be diagnosed? I did not finish high school, and have failed many times at getting my GED simply because of the math part of the test. I am discouraged to try again, because it is so depressing to fail at something that so many people have an easy time passing. Thank you for this video!
you can get accomodations for the ged where you can use a calculator... I did it.. if you can't get a dyscalculia diagnosis, see about ADD/ADHD testing. many with Dyscalculia also show symptoms of ADD/ADHD... they'll let you use a calculator for ADD/ADHD too, so either diagnosis will work ;) hope that helped!! (don't get discouraged, I failed the math the first time, and with the calculator nailed it the second time... you can do this!)
THANK YOU!
Kevin, I am for the third time going for the dreaded GED. If I fail this time..I'm pretty sure I will be done with ever taking it again. I too lost my job of 13 years when we got a new person in charge and saw I didnt graduate or have my GED I was let go. I worked with autistic children and was always praised for a job well done. Makes no sense. Math is so hard for me. I hope you find some happiness in your life. Dont let it drag you down that dark road. Its not worth it.
I know my reply is late, however when I went to take my GED I had to take the math portion 3 times before I passed. I know exactly how you feel just keep trying and get extra help and never give up. I know its tough. I am not diagnosed yet, but I may have this and am getting a test wed concerning this and I am 30 yrs old. Keep going!!
Alicia Seebode I had a high school math teacher that failed University Math several times before he passed the final test. You gotta try hard each time but you can do it and don't give up. Seek as much support as possible.
I'm pretty sure I have Dyscalculia. It's pretty overwhelming at this stage in my life. I have been actively pursuing an Associate degree in Pychology for the last 7 years, but because of Math. I have not been able to obtain this 2 year degree. I have 60 college credits,none of which are math because I have repeatedly failed the entry level college math course. Now if I attempt to take the same course again, I will have to pay the out of state fee. College is not cheap. There are people I went to high school with who now have 2-3 degrees and I have yet to obtain one. It's very depressing. My self esteem and self worth is relatively low because I am stuck with no future working dead end jobs, which I know I can do better. My life literally have no purpose. All through school I have struggle with numbers. I can't seem to remember steps in solving problems, so I mix them up and get the wrong answer every time. It's quite pathetic. I've worked harder in math than any other subjects and I have fail to succeed each and every time. Tutors, math apps, tons of books and it just doesn't stick. Now in my mid twenties in a quest to finding a solution, I have stumble upon dyscalculia. I have been calling my states board of education to schedule a testing appointment, but each time I call I get the voicemail. If anyone in central Florida know where I can go please help me.
same here
When I was going to college in Florida, my college said my math requirements would be waived if I was able to be diagnosed with it. I hope you were able to get something worked out since your post was 10 months ago.
Adalynn, Hi, love your name. I can totally understand you and I believe that I have Dyscalculia as well. I've always wanted to conquer Mathematics. It has always been a great desire. I have struggled in math all of my life ALL my LIFE in college and even now. I try to avoid or stay far away from numbers and I have a business as well as an early childhood provider (the irony). I often wonder how my life would be if I could just normally understand math like others. I remember in elementary school science was my favorite subject. As I got older I learned that math was associated with science and I quickly gave up that love of science, but I replaced it with a science the social sciences, but I love earth science and physical sciences as a child. It has been a hindrance for me. I have not been diagnosed with it, but the signs are most def there. I can't count money back....I can not count money back in my mind, I add and subtract with my fingers, fractions are hell for me. I homeschool, but I don't teach my children math....why?Dyscalculia.
I don't know where to start to get help. I would love to get help.
I just wanted to encourage you and let you know don't give up. I struggled in math in college as well. I had to drop out because of family circumstances, but never give up keep pushing my sister. I am going through what you are going through and know you pain. You can do it!! I have a B.A. and a Master's degree with Dyscalculia. You can do!! Now, seeing this video I understand myself and I am so happy that there are others who feel the same and are going through the same things I deal with. Keep pushing forward my sister don't let this push you back keep moving and believe in yourself, put your faith to the test, get a good tutor in math (it helps) and talk to your advisor about your symptoms of Dyscalculia. I am rooting for you and I am cheering you on.....
Travis R I will have to look into this.
Adalynn Monae at least you were able to graduate from high school to even think about college!
I'm now 59 and have my whole life struggled with the concept of Math. All my school reports show "Poor understanding of math written and verbal" in them. I even had remedial classes in high school and didn't cope. Although, I can do basic math, and use my fingers to add up, I have got by. If it's possible I take a number to the nearest 10 and take off the other number to get my answer, eg: 19 + 8 = 27. I would make that 20 + 7 = 27.
I would do 20+8=28-1
I always felt that I would complicate things for myself
This is the first time I've ever heard of this. Maybe now I'll understand why I have always had such a problem with math. I didn't learn my multiplication tables until I was 15. I just kept getting passed on to the next grade until I switched schools and got into trouble and that school got me a one one teacher. Then I learned some math. I did quit school because I didn't want to be put in special education for one subject. I already had a hard enough time without getting bullied more. I did get my GED later on. I look forward to hearing more of the video. I just barely heard anything and had to comment. Thanks everyone and thank you to the person or persons that uploaded this video!
I’m a 44 year old man and had to stop watching this part way in because it made me cry. I grew up with dyscalculia along with a motor deficit in my hand writing. I can count to infinity, no problem, but visualization, order of operations and patterns were and are major problems for me. It killed my self esteem to have to go to LD classes, the majority of my teachers didn’t believe that I had anything wrong with me, that I was either dumb or worse, just lazy. In college I had to threaten to sue to stay in certain classes because the professors didn’t want to accommodate me. I dreamed of becoming an electrical engineer, but had to settle on being a technician because there was no way I could have survived the math. Where I work it’s more of the same, it’s all about title rather than ability, and I find most engineers hardly use the level of math their degree required. While I feel fortunate for making it as far as I have despite it, it really has robbed me of so many things in my life. I don’t think I can finish this video. It just makes me sad.
My whole life I’ve struggled with anxiety and high cortisol. I can’t believe at 48 years old, I’m just learning about Discalculia.
I’ve isolated myself for fear of people discovering how hard simple things are for me.🥺🙏🏻
I was diagnosed with a ‘math learning disability’ is that the same thing? Also, with my disabilities, I feel really stupid, so to the people feeling the same, you are not alone.
Yes the "calculia" part in the word represent calculations or calculating.
You are not alone. I am excellent in all other areas, hell, i'm currently learning a 3rd language but when it comes to math....it's as if it goes through one ear and out the other. No matter how hard I try, how hard I put effort into math, it's very difficult. I can't even solve the most simpliest problems without running into a few bumps, when I try it takes me 15 mins to solve for 1 problem where it should take me 3 mins for most. I am close to getting my degree but math is holding me back.
It sucks,I have this. They never told me in school or tried to help me learn to cope with it,just dumbed down my work and said I was slow. My dad thought it was all BS and I was just lazy. I also have disgraphia. I had to do research on my own as an adult.
I have it. It was very embarrassing throughout high school. Actually the only part of mathematics I ever enjoyed is geometry.
Find me if you need math help .....
Money is the worst thing for me, and mental math. I can't do it, and it frustrates me so much to the point of tears. It's so nice to have a fiance who understands me and helps out with any math stuff. If he catches me calling myself stupid he tells me it's not my fault. I still can't help but feel like I'm an idiot because I can't process what others consider very basic math.
I failed in Calculus and Principle of Accounting last term. Tried really hard and passed those two after the retakes.
This term, I failed another 2, which is Statistics and Financial Management!
This condition has really been haunting me..
I’m an adult and I think I had this (might still have this) as a child. I failed pre-algebra thrice. I don’t know why people didn’t catch on. I use crutches to this day. I visualize “friendly” sets of numbers to do simple addition and subtraction. For example my brain cannot do 7+5 without counting the 5 aloud (or with my fingers) but after the 3rd grade this is too embarrassing so I learned that I can redistribute numbers to pairs and memorize the answer. 7+5 is the same as 6+6 so I can get to 12 without adding just remembering. Multiplication in my head is a struggle and division is impossible. It’s humiliating. 🙈 I can’t believe I’m just now able to understand these challenges I have without feeling like I am making it up. I just say I’m math-stupid. Or say “my brain doesn’t do math”… I think I may actually have this LD.
I just want to say thank you for taking the time to make this video and posting it. As someone who's dyscalculia wasn't diagnosed at school I am in favour of anything that raises awareness about the condition and eductaes people about it. Hopefully fewer children, and adults, will have to suffer as I did.
I used to joke to people that I'm so horrible at math that I'm dyslexic with numbers. Then one day about a couple of years ago, I decided to look it up to see if it was an actual thing. It explains a lot about me growing up and still to this day. I'm not sure how I made it thru school. I distinctly remember my parents frustration trying to teach me how to tell time on a clock or on a watch as a kid. And I just could not get it. I still have issues with right and left. Whenever we travel my bf is the driver and I help navigate but I always get left and right mixed up. At my job I need to know liquid measurements and I still struggle. Do people with dyscalculia struggle with time management?
Dyscalculia even affects my knitting and crochet patterns with multiples of different rows. I usually give up on some patterns that I really like to do. Dishcloths are no problem.
After being concieved by mom in 1967, she had been seriously ill and almost died while iam being conceived, She had expected when her baby will be born it would not be a normal kid because she took loads of medications, So there i was, i have Dyscalculia and since childhood it just seem to be a cursed, i got problems, memorizing my multiplication tables and things in number to be memorized, i never seems to absorb and process it in my brain, and after learning it flies outside my mind---I suffered a lot since grade school, i hated school because i felt that iam not a normal kid at all-I survived school until graduating from art school which doesnt require math on its class, Now iam 51, and became an art director, ---All these years i wondered how i survived this world of numbers trying to avoid it in all the jobs i had been, and having my family to worry about thier support, I believe its a real cakewalk.
Yes, I have most of the symptoms of Dyscalculia. My timekeeping has always been bad, and I can never keep track of time. Simple maths is a struggle, I can't do calculations in my head, I have to use my fingers to help me. I always get numbers mixed-up.
I was definitely not aware that this is a thing until right now I am helping a friend with his resume and realize that it's hard for him to quantify his impact on his job and he told me about this. Personally, I think it is important for people with it to educate the people around them about what this is and how it affects them. I was very thankful that my friend brought this up to me so it allowed me to help him in much more creative ways. This doesn't mean the person with it doesn't do their share of work but it means that we gotta work together differently and more creatively. Like other comments mentioned, it's not impossible for people with dyscalculia to learn a sense of numbers, it would just be harder. And I believe it is up to the ones around them to help them to get through these hurdles with love.
It's frustrating when you want to go to college, but you can't because they will not work with you. I want a Spanish degree, which has nothing to do with math.
Are you in the U.S? I have a difficult time with math as well but only needed a math credit to get my degree. I took the easiest math class available to me and passed (luckily).
Correct and they still make us take math remedial’s
But if we struggle in math- that hinders us from getting a degree so it’s pointless
I grew up and went though school in the 70’s, and I think I have a learning disability with numbers. It was hard for me because back in 70’s they punished you instead of helping the student like they do today. I did graduate from high school but I think they just passed me just get rid of me. Also I never considered going to college because I didn’t think I could make it.
How do you file taxes and bills, tips, percentages…? I’m 20, I can’t do math either but I’m most worried about that.
@@maria-melek I would just keep all the W2 forms I get from the company I work for to do my taxes and anything else keep papers because sometimes you use it for tax deductions. I went to a tax preparer like Jackson Hewitt or H&R Block to have them help me with paperwork. They do charge a fee, but it’s not that bad. Now many years later I’m part owner of a family business and we have tax accounting company take care of it and I do pay more but taxes for a company is more complicated than just single person.
Hi, Dr. Horowitz. To me, the most interesting in the video is at the very end: anxiety. Anxiety is perhaps the true root of all the phenomena above it there on your flip chart. I see it every day with my high school seniors. I teach a Algebra II and Precal at a high school for learning disorders. So many of my students' main obstacle to learning and performance is anxiety. It's anxiety that's been festering untreated throughout their entire academic life, and by junior or senior year, it's calcified. I feel that unless theisanxiety is addressed with intensive therapy, all the educational accommodations in the world (small classrooms, multi-modal teaching, extra time on assignments, etc) won't be effective.
Nicholas DeMaio i know exactly what you mean since i've been getting therapy for my anxiety recently and figured out i can't perform well in division and multiplications tasks without a calculator
Do you think that anxiety is the true root of the issue Dyslexics face?
Actually, my anxiety when dealing with math was a manifestation of *years* of unrecognized dyscalculia, and being told over and over I was just lazy, or unmotivated, or stubborn, or just needed to try harder. The *result* of unaddressed learning differences and challenges is anxiety, not the other way around.
In my case it’s not anxiety that causes my difficulties with numbers... my difficulty with numbers causes the anxiety
Well done! Thank you for posting Dr. Horowitz. Yes! We can say dyslexia and co-morbid conditions often associated with ADHD and Autism.
There's a name for it?? I'm not thick? Or "making it up"? I'm 45, can't read clocks without working it out🤷 can't do maths in my head🤷 the numbers don't stay there! Can't use a calculator, still wrong, don't know how🤷. Can't measure, can't judge timing & distance. Cried much over math. Can give you an answer, it COULD be right, probably wrong, don't know how🤷 I'm really good at reading & spelling. My friend has dyslexia, struggles to read & write, however he's like a human maths/numbers machine. We're not all good at both, we're not making it up, it's not "easy", we just cannot read numbers! Total foreign language. Thankyou for upload. Hasn't cured me at all but now I know I'm not alone & has buzzed me up 🐝🐝
I've always had difficulty learning in just about any subject and ended up in "special classes" all the time without ever being diagnosed with any learning disability. I even took a test to see if I had ADD etc but nope, nothing was found. At the end of the testing, they said it might just be anxiety. Very confusing...
Oh my goodness this comments section..... I'm in a pile of tears...
I began to have the MOST trouble in 3rd grade. Now seeing these symptoms in my child is just awful.
Here to learn more!!! ❤
I was bullied when I moved schools unexpectedly in the beginning of 3rd grade, that experience really affected me. I wouldn’t ask questions because I was afraid of people laughing at me. From 4-5th grade I used to cry almost every morning at school instead of eating breakfast and playing with other kids, I felt alone, overwhelmed and abandoned even at home. I quickly realized I couldn’t do math correctly I would ask teachers after lecture but they wouldn’t do much and I felt so stupid and anxious, in middle it got worse I somehow got an A in math once, but after it was either D’s or F’s, everyone was good except for me and the teachers were rude, it made me feel even more anxious and depressed and I once had a teacher who was strict on math, I went to summer school for it and once resigned and left home crying because I felt stupid and frustrated, I always avoided and made excuses or stories up when my friends would ask about math or my math grades. I also had been struggling with depression, anxiety and memory problems since I moved to that damn school in 3rd grade. I didn’t graduate because of math and the rest of my problems and my family never cared for me, they would just scold me and be disappointed in me as always . I’ve had a few jobs and tried to finish school but my mind holds me back and my inability to do math. I feel so lost and stuck and horrible I want to study psychology and make my mom proud and overcome all negativities. I love history too, and geography, I write and have been writing lyrics since I was in 6th grade, I speak 2 languages learning another one. But I felt useless because none are as important as math is. But I feel like I’m scared and I don’t have money or don’t know where to start or get help. I honestly feel like a lost case.
I excelled in every school subject except mathematics and I never understood why. Teachers would explain formulas (often more than once) and I would understand, but as soon as I had to use these formulas (5 minutes later) I would get confused. NOW I understand why.
I have two degrees; A B.A. in Communications and a masters in journalism. I've been an adjunct professor for over thirteen years but I can't get a full time job without a doctorate. I love college and want a PhD more than anything but I can't get past the math section. Every time I see algebra I feel my blood boiling! These damned admissions tests have almost nothing to do with the subject I'm studying and yet i'm denied any opportunity to go farther! Logic problems on the LSAT are almost as bad. I spent three minutes reading one of the problems and I was furious! Study guides are useless and the ones who offer classes and tutoring charge over $2000 per class.
It's not a fair system and I want it to change!
I’ve always struggled with math. Was always in remedial math growing up while being extremely good at english and history. When I was in a normal math class it always gave me so much anxiety. I remember wanting to burst out into tears during math class once, back when I was in hs because I just felt that stupid. Would always ask myself why I had to be so dumb compared to the other students in math class. Looking back, I most probably have dyscalculia.
I have always had difficulties with math. As a kid, I could not read a clock face until I was about twelve years old.
i still struggle with time 12 o clock blah i remember them dont want people laughing at me but yeah i do and others
I still can't. I'm 23
I'm 32 and I think it will always just take me a little longer than others to read a clock.
Its a good thing that this is poited out more and more these days, it wasnt when i was a kid. Worked my way through though, now iam trying to get my master degree to be a math specialist Remdeialteacher. Couldnt get into teacher school because of the national math test, workd my way around it and now becoming a remedial teacher that explains math to children. I believe its because i cant do math myself (without the help methods) i can explain it so much better to kids that struggle.
I am a 35 years old and I can't calculate a simple numbers in head I always have a big problem with a math in a school and I feel very bad because of that. In time when I was a kid they didn't recognize my problem, because my teachers think I am just stupid or lazy.
The hardest parts about having dyscalculia... People think you're lying, that it's a made up disability, and you're just stupid or lazy.
They dont even know what their teaching problems are .
Find me for help.....
I was tested three times in my life and was in special ed math my entire school career. All they could tell me was I had an LD in math and that I was ADD/ADHD even when I when I went to the job disabilites offices when they had me tested thats all they could tell me! glad to know theres FINALLY a name and an explanation, explains why I get certain numbers mixed up at work too
Why I can never get a retail job! =(
I bet you could! I have pretty severe dyscalculia and I was able to able have some retail jobs. I remember being a junior in college and one day counting change finally made sense to me. Something just clicked.
i have been in retail over 10 years. the register counts it for you and i have to triple count change when i giving it back. however there are different degrees of it and it affects people differently in some sense. it just frustrating when i put in the wrong amount and i have to grab a calculator. i have to do that even on the easiest math and sometimes people look at me crazy. i get embarrassed but i found you can sometimes put it off on the register..."something like dang register its doing it again hold on" haha. i read change backwards sometimes when giving it back to them and they will ask "are you dyslexic?"
I have severe dyscalculia but have worked in retail for 5 years and am recently made a supervisor where I have to cash up the till and deal with more money. I found it really scary at first but thanks to understanding colleagues it really helped. Luckily now for us computers and tills do all the number work for us! X
@@Bears08 yeah counting change randomly clicked for me too.. it was weird like you’re a little late there bud
Thank so much for this wonderful awesome video on Dyscalcuia
I can’t handle money everything you talk about on this video I feel when I tried to math.
I didn’t know that was a name for this problem. I was born with Cerebral palsy and one of things I cannot comprehend is the Math subject. I tried to but with no fail
I gave up on my Math,To keep my at pace. I do have a gift with writing. I wrote Three Books and published them.
Jane
I'm getting tested on Wednesday soon because no matter how hard I study and work my tail off, I am still failing my math class here in college. I have always my whole entire life struggled with math. My story is complex as to why I think I may have a learning disability period. The big day is Wednesday morning and that will affect my whole life no matter the outcome!!
***** so how did your test go? Is it dyscalculia, another LD?
Dyscalculia has literally gave me panic attacks and anxiety since I was 7, no matter how much I revised and studied I just could not count, I couldn’t learn my additions, never learned divisions or any math exercises till this day I struggle, my teacher was very mean he couldn’t understand why I wasn’t able to do my math and he would humiliate me in front of everyone call me constantly at the board in front of everyone to ask me to resolve a math problem, I couldn’t do even the easiest ones, my class mates would laugh at me, I dreaded going to school for that reason and I hated school with all my heart, I remember that as soon as my teacher called my name I would have a full blown panic attack, it’s the worst thing that can happen to a child. I always thought I was stupid, it has impacted my life in so many ways that it angers me, I didn’t want to go to uni because I knew there would be math, I didn’t want to choose some Careers because I knew there was math involved, and that’s why now at 30 I am a nurse, I’ve learned to hide it so much, people never understand why I can’t do my math I am very brilliant academically, I speak 6 languages fluently and I could learn another one very easily, I can read and write very well too but I just can’t do my math, I even struggle with reading the time I have to constantly count the numbers, I’m a quick thinker but as soon as there is a number involved I just can’t grasp the notion.
I seem to only have trouble with basic arithmetic. Particularly with subtraction. Particularly with odd numbers. To which hinder higher echelon math such as long division. Multiplication not as much. But this in turn affects my ability to do algebra on paper I certainly can't do things in my head like a lot of people can I have to physically put the number somewhere on paper or count my fingers. Geometry I'm a wiz with though. Do you think that means dyscalcula or just bad at math?
I have dyscalculia. I always use my fingers to count. If you asked me what 22 + 6 was, I would have to use my fingers to count.
Counting is the first stage of calculation and processing ......
just you dont know how to improve it....
find me to fix your problems
22+6 =28 I have dyscalculia
I missed 2nd or 3rd grade because of childhood trauma. Got severally behind.
As an adult, I have no math foundation, much anxiety over math, i would hyperventilate in class.
I remember finding a tutor, when i told him my problem he laughed.
That set me back, I'm an. "A" study in subjects because I would hide away with books.
Is it too late as an adult, I learned to compensate.
Sorry severally should be serverly
I remember back when I was a kid like in 4th or 5th grade. Me and my friends were playing outside as usual and then my friends started asking each other math problems and then they started asking me... Then that's when it bugged me I was so nervous and embarrassed because I was the only one who didn't really understand those questions they were asking... And they didn't know it. Although I was a grade higher than them I didn't know what to say I always told them "We're not learning that yet." Or Simply "I don't know" Ugh I was so embarrassed and ashamed and felt stupid even though they just replied saying "Oh okay" and didn't bug me about it or make fun of me. Still, I felt very stupid, yet I do so well with any other subject. And then now I'm discovering that this is a real disability and that's why I've been struggling with math my whole life. It hit me and I felt kinda depressed. Still to this day I cannot solve basic math problems and sometimes it stills bugs me today and didn't even bother trying to graduate High School because of it. So pretty much instead of trying harder to learn it I wanted to run away from it, having nothing to do with it at all.
I have this, and i hate my school because they dont ever help me with anything i ask them to help me with
I have phonological dyslexia and I have dyscalculia and I’m waiting for my results to see if I have ADHD it really make my life hard especially since I’m only a 15 year old girl seeing people who are like me make me realise I’m not alone, so thank you.
I think all math teacher should know about the term and know how to diagnose it as well....and if not diagnose at least have the ability to send a student to get diagnosed.
The only reason I was diagnosed as an adult in college is because a math teacher asked me "Have you ever been evaluated for a learning disability?" And no, I hadn't. I score A's and B's in everything but Math. If every Math teacher knew and appreciated the magnitude of this LD, we'd have better success with younger students.
I’m 43 , had it all my life , nothing they ever did helped , I struggled and never went further than Alg 1 . I barely passed that in HS . It always pissed me off that the one subject you better do well in is math , if you wanna go to college . They told me it’s no big deal , you’ll just have to work a little harder , they did t stop to think that it’s impossible to work at all w out tools , oh and it’s dark .
I struggled through math when I was in elementary school basically learning none of it. In middle school and high school I had to take two math classes every year to catch up my mother was very patient with me and helped me greatly once I left the public school system. I managed to go to community college and using all the resources at my disposal and a TI-84 calculator achieve my associate's degree. Now that I'm working on my bachelor's degree I'm struggling greatly because they took using the TI-84 off the table for the exam and so I make constant errors. I'm not sure if I have this or not although when I was young I couldn't distinguish left or right I still feel terrible when I play a game because I do not feel confident keeping score. I'm unable to to do very simple math in my head. I'm curious of trying to find a way in which to actually get tested by somebody to see if I have this because part of me just wants to know at this point. When I was a child they were trying to diagnose me with something or another but my parents were able to sort of intervene to prevent this.
Ugh I swear I have this. Until I left private school after kindergarten, I had a HUGE issue with trying to execute anything math. I always was the last person on a math test to finish, and was the slowest on a worksheet. I'm 20 and I still use my fingers, and re-do counting my fingers just in case and sometimes I come up with a different answer. My mother has always been in an 'in denial' mode with any possible learning issues I have, I always felt like I had and still have dsycalculia and ADD.
Where does an adult go to get tested? I am 38 years old and have never heard of discalculia but I am pretty sure I have this.
You have to find an educational psychologist, the test is expensive $400+ but worth it!.
It's like i understand math pretty well. I can feel somehow, but it I just cannot visualize any of it in my head. So if i have to subtract 56 from 143 i feel clueless. Something about the 143 going to 100, then having to count back how much i still need to subtract from the remaining 100 is just something my brain cannot process. I feel like i should be able to visualize like i can do with words. But when it comes to numbers in my mind it all just goes to black. I have to use my fingers and memorize so much at once that i end up forgetting what i was calculating.
It used to give me a lot of anxiety as a kid & teenager. I got to drop math from my study all toghetter in high school, wish i hadn't.
I must say that i've grown a lot and i understand math much better now. As long as i can use a calculator and pen + paper it's not so bad. It's never going to be easy but the harder we have to work the prouder we get to feel when we accomplish it.
Doctor please with this disorder what are the things he or she must to to be coming better
So how would one overcome this disability?
All my life, I thought I was extremely stupid. Every other subject I was good in or decent in. But math... It was the very bane of my learning career. My dad was an asshole with it too. He would put me on the spot with math questions , that he knew I had trouble with. He made it known that I wasn't good with money and ridicule me for it. I would panic and try to use my fingers to count. It helped me in a sense.
He would compare me to my younger sister and say
" your little sister can do math easily? If she can do it, why can't you?"
As if I wasn't trying my best. It's not that I wouldn't do it. I Couldn't do it. After a while I had gave up, and started failing school. I was in special ed classes, I didn't really care though. I found my motivation in my senior year, and graduated. I'm just happy to know there is a name to my struggle.
Thank you this gave me some insight into this condition that my son was diagnosed with.
I think I have this i totally suck at math I've tried so hard to learn but I can't. I can't do mental math, I count on my fingers. I don't remember my time tables, i still can't do division i start college in two weeks what can i do
I think I have that but I am officially diagnosed with dyslexia so I might be getting mixed up
I can relate to many of these comments. Summer school, being punished, being teased, small classes, anxiety, working 10x harder than others and still not getting it right. Anyways. I'm a lawyer now.
and yes I have been diagnosed with dyscalculia.
i struggle with alot of things embrassed to say but time
confuses me and others like alot of maths never stays in my heads falls out sometimes i wish i was dyslexic :(
same here, and i am gonna die soon because if this.
Don’t be embarrassed, the dyscalculia family is here.
As someone who has Dyscalculi and faced abelism on this thanks