Are Retro MTB's getting too expensive to be worth upgrading now?

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2021
  • Kind of.
    Merchandise Site (STICKERS, HATS, SHIRTS):
    spindatt.com
    Click on this Jenson USA and I get 5 cents:
    www.jensonusa.com/#spindatt
    Patreon (Behind the Scenes Access to all the happenings):
    / spindatt
    Amazon Shop:
    USA: www.amazon.com/shop/spindatt
    Canada: www.amazon.ca/shop/spindatt
    *
    Curious About My Gear?
    =======Rock Hopper Build======
    amzn.to/2OiKG4P
    ======Rawstercross Build=======
    amzn.to/3qr6Tul
    ========Panaracer Tires=======
    bit.ly/3fyuOX8
    =========Jenson USA=========
    www.jensonusa.com/#spindatt
    ==========Tools=============
    Allen Keys: bit.ly/3sOCw3L
    Pro Allen Keys: bit.ly/3zhzJT7
    Screwdrivers: bit.ly/3knrmPJ
    Metric Wrenches: amzn.to/2HG9jiS
    Tire Levers: amzn.to/2DyUc8g
    Cable Cutters: amzn.to/2pfDAhS
    Chain Breaker: amzn.to/2FZZa3d
    Chain Whip: amzn.to/2tUdXI3
    Cassette Tool: bit.ly/3BeDb1M
    Spoke Wrench: amzn.to/2FPCorz
    Crank Puller: bit.ly/3BdqPa4
    Square Taper Socket: amzn.to/2plgK8g
    Bottom Bracket Tool: bit.ly/3DkAxcn
    Cheeeeap Tool Kit: amzn.to/2FG9MRs

КОМЕНТАРІ • 265

  • @nanaluke
    @nanaluke 2 роки тому +68

    The increased hype around old bikes has made me quite happy to see people embracing and enjoying bikes that still have so much life left in them. Regardless of whether they pay $x or $xxxx . I reckon your channel has helped the old bike revival a lot! It's certainly why I'm here 😎

  • @johnnyguzman3429
    @johnnyguzman3429 2 роки тому +24

    I saw the craze coming in 2010. I've been collecting them for a few years now. I have a Klein, Bontrager, Kona and GT bikes. They're all riders, no garage queens in my collection. I also don't flip them even though I could turn a good profit because that's not why I bought them in the first place. I really just enjoy old bikes.

    • @techjunkie68smusicandtech56
      @techjunkie68smusicandtech56 8 місяців тому

      I agree, a bike is there to be used, not just looking all pretty.

    • @grahamchan4266
      @grahamchan4266 Місяць тому +1

      Kleins and Cannondales now not worth the build cost. But Giant, Specialized and older GTs can be super fun to restore.
      Just don't expect to turn profits selling complete bikes

  • @glennpettersson9002
    @glennpettersson9002 2 роки тому +8

    The bikes I enjoy the most are the skip bin rescues, stuff that's on the way to land fill but with imagination and ingenuity can become the coolest ride in town.

  • @veloaa-montreal6924
    @veloaa-montreal6924 2 роки тому +8

    I think it's mainly the higher end models that enthusiasts are interested in, but old mountain bikes just make a perfect do-it-all bike for everyday use, and gravel has made rigid bikes more appealing

  • @phillipcowan1444
    @phillipcowan1444 2 роки тому +7

    Picked up a '91 Schwinn High Plains last year. Literally picked it up out of the middle of a busy 4 lane street. It had a taco-ed rear wheel and had probably just fallen off the back of a scrappers truck on the way to the smelter. Its been totally revamped as a fireroad bike with new wheels, mustache bars and a 2x10 microshift drivetrain. I think sometime in the near future I'm gonna strip it back down for powder coat. Something cheap and cheerful like candy purple. Dunno I change my mind every week.

  • @benspeedschannel888
    @benspeedschannel888 2 роки тому +27

    There’s still some real bargains in the £50-100 price bracket here in the UK, you’ve just got to be patient and keep looking. I bought a cracking, all original Saracen Kili Racer the other night for 55quid

    • @kevinfeeney5309
      @kevinfeeney5309 2 роки тому +5

      Same here in the U.S....well, at least in Los Angeles. Just gotta be patient. Although Covid has brought out the dreamers. Asking $300+USD for a heavily used Wal-Mart Kent roadtech that sold for around $100 brand new.

    • @woodysmuddy
      @woodysmuddy 2 роки тому +5

      Definitely depending on brand though. Kona have gone through the roof and Orange too.

    • @benspeedschannel888
      @benspeedschannel888 2 роки тому

      @@woodysmuddy I’ve had really good luck with cheap Konas, I’ve bought 3 Cinder Cones in the last few years for £50 or less, all in good original condition, one was a super rare 1991 in fluorescent pink with blue splatter

    • @benspeedschannel888
      @benspeedschannel888 2 роки тому +4

      @@kevinfeeney5309 yeah man, plenty of dreamers here too, seems like people are smoking the hopium both sides of the pond lol

    • @kevinfeeney5309
      @kevinfeeney5309 2 роки тому +1

      @@benspeedschannel888 lmao... too funny

  • @mattneville9560
    @mattneville9560 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video brotha! I think all of us would be excited for an episode of retro MTB builds viewers send in for you to analyze. Cheers!!

  • @andrewrolf4910
    @andrewrolf4910 2 роки тому +1

    I pulled that same rockhopper out of the trash 10 years ago. New tubes and 1 wheel, also from the trash, and im dad bikin it all over the place. Oh yeah, a comfort seat from the grocery store too. Non indexed gear shifter! Eat it boys

  • @basstedson
    @basstedson 2 роки тому +1

    Just while I notice that your in these comments, love the channel man. The whole ethos is fantastic and your passion for bikes is infectious. I myself will be performing my first drivetrain swap, the biggest bit of work I have ever done on a bike, tommorow thanks in no small part to your easy going attitude desmystfying bike mechanics. Cheers.

  • @JimJamDaMan
    @JimJamDaMan 2 роки тому +4

    There are still plenty of great old bikes on the used market sites. Most people still have no idea how nice the dirty old thing in their garage really is.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому

      Please, don't give away our secrets! The good news is that most consumers are rather lazy. They just want to spend money, they don't want to learn how to wrench!

    • @HoloScope
      @HoloScope 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollinrat4850 facts!

  • @mihairusu7591
    @mihairusu7591 2 роки тому

    Just finished my retromod MTB build its a 1987 muddy fox courier with a brand new deore 10 speed drivetrain, I paid way too much for the rusty hunk of junk bike but I love it so much and would say it was definitely worth it. Your channel and builds were a big inspiration

  • @Armin_27
    @Armin_27 2 роки тому +2

    Upgraded an 80`s 26" turquoise steel Winora MTB to suspension fork, disc brakes and 11-Speed. Biggest adventure ever! 😅 Love that bike so much now.
    You might wanna check it out 😉, took me 5 videos to get done.
    Cheers Armin

  • @cooperorosz
    @cooperorosz 2 роки тому +10

    It's easy to be dissuaded that the prices of everything are getting expensive, but keep in mind this is the hottest the bike market (in general) has ever been. Combine that with component shortages and whatnot, this means that instead of people buying bikes at a bike shop or whatever, they look for alternatives like doing retro builds. The demand will slowly die back down.
    Plus deals always exist, just need to look for them a bit harder. Scooped a gorgeous old Nishiki for $40 CAD.

    • @kevinfeeney5309
      @kevinfeeney5309 2 роки тому

      Scooped up my '93 Nishiki Pueblo mtb for $40usd....just before the first Covid lockdowns.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому

      There's still plenty of barely used and forgotten nice old bikes sitting in garages and gathering dust. People often just want to be rid of them. Patience and persistence is the key!
      Nothing good comes easy by any means!
      Maybe these bikes are getting rarer but we'll just need to wait and find the 'right sucker'!
      I too have a garage filled with old retro bike 'junk'. Ive collected it for almost 50 years and my 9 bikes in various 'stages of disrepair' keep me rolling every day!

  • @yardsalecycles
    @yardsalecycles 2 роки тому +4

    Older MTB have been under rated for a while and are starting to get recognized for the awesome projects they can be you can still find great deals but as usual you can go crazy on the build

  • @lolosolodolo1
    @lolosolodolo1 11 місяців тому

    I got a 91 rockhopper because of you. I got crazy lucky and got it for $55 and it was fully rideable besides a popped rear tube. I replaced the tires, tubes, bars and hit a wall. Watching this video gave me what I needed to finish it.

  • @SuperMarto86
    @SuperMarto86 2 роки тому

    Great channel! Subscribed...late to the channel but been into bikes a loooong time now. I found your channel while searching 1x setups. I have 2 rockhoppers that my folks bought new in the 90s. I want to leave those alone for the most part so I've been looking around for a good condition beater and prices are all over the place.
    I brought home 3 hardrocks today! Including one I have at home that makes it 4. And I've built up exactly ZERO of them. Haha soon I hope! Keep up the sweet vids man!

  • @derekmosher4561
    @derekmosher4561 2 роки тому +2

    This , this is why I watch this channel . Cool bikes don`t have to cost a fortune and if you can you could build one cheaper than purchasing one . I like building my own bikes.

  • @T_track
    @T_track 2 роки тому

    I agree with what some people say I bought the specialized rockhopper teal with purple work because you did it. But now it just there because have 5 bikes all not finished but 2 are rideable

  • @aybee69
    @aybee69 2 роки тому +1

    Blue collar classics all day long for me! When the prices of 90's era MTB's climbed, I started to focus on the same era steel hybrids. Lots fun to be had with a Trek 730/750 (lugged = $$$), Bianchi Project series, Specialized Crossroads, etc. My new favorite of those is the Schwinn CrissCross. Lugged frame, massive tire clearance and road vs mtb rear spacing. Makes it super easy throw a road drivetrain on it and make it a Surly killer!

  • @kurthooker2391
    @kurthooker2391 2 роки тому +2

    Agree 100% although I admit I went and found a 92 rockhopper frame and fork on Facebook for £10. Had great fun cleaning sanding and repainting the frame, and to this day am still dreaming about the parts I can add to this bike to make it my ultimate dropbar retro bike. I think there will always be frames and bikes out there looking for love and covid has been a blip which in a few years will see these precious bikes left in garden sheds to slowly rust away until the odd clear out brings them to marketplace for the odd bargain find for those in the know (or just geeky about bikes).

  • @onerider808
    @onerider808 Рік тому +2

    Good one. I restored my 2012 Scott, and it wasn’t worth it...except to me. I could have almost bought a newer Aspect when done, but I wanted my old bike Biggie back. Some things aren’t measured in dollars and cents, or by performance matrixes.

    • @oo0024
      @oo0024 Рік тому

      That’s not retro

  • @N9LVG
    @N9LVG 2 роки тому +1

    I'm glad I bought my 1993 titanium superbike (1993 Kona Hei Hei) back in 2005 when they were cheap ($400).

  • @JP-jy7sk
    @JP-jy7sk 2 роки тому +1

    I recently scored a 1996 Trek 970 AND a 1993 Specialized Stumpjumper on the side of the road for free. Both mostly complete. I say “game on” for cheapo retro rides!

  • @peterbaskind9872
    @peterbaskind9872 2 роки тому +6

    I'm lookin'. My daughter will be leaving her swanky university soon for grad school. She needs a solid, work truck kind of bike to haul books and groceries. When I find one, it gets a MicroSHIFT Advent 1x9 (already waiting on a shelf) and a basket. I'll find something.

    • @cjohnson3836
      @cjohnson3836 2 роки тому

      If you haven't, contact her university's transportation offices to see if they do bike auctions each term. Many do as abandoned bikes are a common thing on pretty much any campus. Might need to be fixed up, but usually cheap. Ours does $40/ea as they come. Might be a busted frame, might actually be a $500 intro mtb; all $40

    • @peterbaskind9872
      @peterbaskind9872 2 роки тому

      @@cjohnson3836 Good thought. And, yes. Her swanky school does have that. But…
      The University is pretty picky about all bikes being stored outside. It snows there. By the time bikes get left, they’re pretty much junk.

  • @koganmb
    @koganmb 2 роки тому +2

    Still have my original 92 Bridgestone MB-2. Have looked for MB-Zip for years, but always $$$$$. Dad has 93 Stumpjumper and a 9x Balance that both need some repairs that I might do something with.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому

      Sweet! Ive got a '91 MB3 that I converted to drop bars and dinglespeed. I'm using an ancient Bontrager 'composite' fork too. Haha, For the rigidity and ultra quick steering. Perfect for the tightest, woodiest, trialsy singletrack I can find. If I didn't know how to use my body as suspension I would have lost my fillings a few years ago! It may not be particularly fast, but it's a whole bunch of cheap fun!
      Singlespeeding and fixed gears offroad are more fun than should be legal!

  • @20LookInside12
    @20LookInside12 Рік тому

    Scored a '92 (?) Cinder Cone - exact same size as my '94 Explosif (my original Race bike with KONA grass roots back in the day) The Cindercone ROCKS! Thumbshifters, rigid fork, chipped paint. It thrives in the twisty technical stuff in The Vortex) out on Vancouver Island. I scored a Terry Butterlfy ti railed saddle for FIVE dollars in a thrift store.. and it is PERFECT now. Basically about 100 dollars with tune-up, new cables and newer tires scores. The only thing crap about the older bike IMO in the big ring. THAT is an upgrade (downsize) I need to try!

  • @evemaniac
    @evemaniac Місяць тому

    Rebuilding my old Yeti AS-R Carbon. It got a brandnew Rockshox Monarch RL damper for 80€ ,a used and beaten up Fox f100 terralogic, fully rebuild and painted glossy black, like the frame, XT 1x11 drivetrain, Reverse cockpit, indestructable RaceFace Diabolus headset and cranks, Magura mt8 diskbrakes from last end of seasons sale with 203mm front and 180mm back disks, classic Selle Italia Flite titanium, nokkon cable. Last part is a magura dropper post cableless of cause, because I hate the old seatpost and I love the versatility, I brought it fom Ebay brand new for 250€.. it looks so good in black with white and red decals and handles like a dream.

  • @grandpashreddypants
    @grandpashreddypants 2 роки тому

    I love the old bikes. Keep them coming!

  • @ssmtb
    @ssmtb Рік тому

    Just discovered your channel, I really like the mindset you presented in this video!
    I was about to give up an old rat (uglish) bike I found on FB market,
    This has definitely got me thinking to just go for it 😅

  • @merlinthebikewizard4392
    @merlinthebikewizard4392 2 роки тому +5

    The reason is simple. The kids who saw those bikes and couldn't afford them are now getting all nostalgic for them. This is my era. Any steel Kona from the 90s is overpriced because nostalgia.

    • @ohshitnotanotherknob
      @ohshitnotanotherknob 2 роки тому

      Would love a nice Cinder Cone or Lava Dome

    • @kevinfeeney5309
      @kevinfeeney5309 2 роки тому

      Seen quite a few UA-cam channels who do that. Some channels even include such builds as a bulk of their content. They always say they wanted such n such bike when it was new but was out of their budget and so on.

    • @manchesterexplorer8519
      @manchesterexplorer8519 Рік тому

      I found a 1992 KONA Hei Hei at a thrift store for $ 50 . It had the wrong stickers on it and someone replaced everything with cheap early 2000's bike store components . I've completely retro-modded it since and ride it almost daily .

  • @ricardomartinez5762
    @ricardomartinez5762 2 роки тому +2

    I tried for awhile to upgrade my 90's retro Specialized Hard Rock Rock Hopper mountain bike. After putting money into it I decided its better to make it simplistic and turn it into a single speed everyday commuter.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому

      I overhauled and rebuilt a customer's classic and very rare, COMPLETELY ORIGINAL and stock '80s Rockhopper drop bar mtb yesterday. A very, very cool bike well worth the $400 she paid us to bring it back to life. This thing will last another 20 years if it's taken care of! This is something I'd jump on in a second if it comes up for sale in the right size.
      Old '80s &'90s bikes were and are incredible values! Ive built a bunch of singlespeeds and fixed gears out of them. Many of them I've gotten for free!

  • @kouotsu
    @kouotsu 2 роки тому

    I got quite a deal on a quad butted Giant mtb frame circa 1989 ($25!), and built it up for a friend with budget parts. Way cheaper than my own bike but honestly more fun to ride! Also painted with Spray.bike which sadly did not end up very durable despite so much prep. The original paint was totally wrecked though so still an improvement.

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 2 роки тому +3

    What’s worse is Craiglist and FB marketplace posts full of Huffys, Magnas and Roadmasters. The fools who bought cheap new bikes from Wal-Mart and think they can resell junk for high $$ are smokin’ crack. If you’re going to buy retro, buy established bike shop brands.

    • @theejoeylee
      @theejoeylee 2 роки тому

      YA I got a nice Diamondback outlook that needed a wheel trued ,cleaned up & shifters lubed for free, because my friend got a new bike. Went to their house and it's a genesis from Wal-Mart. Brakes didn't work (assembled bikes) and I don't think they have rode it yet & that was at the beginning of summer!

  • @jamespaxon1888
    @jamespaxon1888 2 роки тому

    From what I've read, Raleigh Canada named a lot of its bikes after the groupset. I think work truck is just called a Raleigh Deore LX. No idea on the year though, lol.

  • @nova-jo1649
    @nova-jo1649 2 роки тому

    That is a beautiful trek

  • @deimosoverkill
    @deimosoverkill 2 роки тому +1

    Lucky me, i still have my 90's Mtb in pristine condition (dark purple Wheeler 1800, chromoly), and I've been working slowly on her... Coming together quite nicely, It also helps that here where i live the retro hype isn't as high... Yet.

  • @m.d.498
    @m.d.498 Рік тому

    In the last month I bought a 93 purple rockhopper for 25 bucks and a Surly disc trucker frame and fork for 20 bucks. The deals are still out there

  • @brainrottedindividual
    @brainrottedindividual 2 роки тому

    i bought a giant retro mtb for very cheap as a spare bike when my main had to get wheels trued and other stuff. it's become my main bike since and i've been slowly swapping parts. i still run the old 3x drivetrain and it's not only worn out, i really want to switch to a 1x. maybe even go single speed since i live in a very flat area. when i bought the bike, i just thought it's nice that it's an mtb because my other one is a single speed road bike frame commuter. nice to have variety. i'm also small and i feel like 26'' wheel frames just fit me better. if the prices really go up then i'm happy i already got mine. just one problem though: seized seatpost. two shops couldn't make it move. i might have to look for an automotive shop to help me out.

  • @ROBinJVILLE
    @ROBinJVILLE 2 роки тому

    I like Raleigh, always have. Still have my '86 Technium, although I don't ride it much. I just like to look at it and remember all the good times .

  • @benjaminfreiman9430
    @benjaminfreiman9430 2 роки тому

    I love my super cheap 1x11 retro mtb I built a year or so ago. It is an ironhorse AT100 - mass produced basic steel frame. It’s just as fun as any rockhopper though😁

  • @Agr414
    @Agr414 2 роки тому

    Last summer I got a ‘91 Cannondale sm800 beast of the east for $100, but the 3x drivetrain was shot. I’m just getting around to building it up as a 650b 1x gravel grinder.

  • @rollinrat4850
    @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому +1

    Mr Spinney! Another great video!
    I think it's amazingly cool how all these old bikes have become popular again. Haha, Try not to give all our secrets away!
    Working in a high end shop, yet being a died in the wool, old fart and retro grouch, Ive come to miss old school bikes. The re-discovery has been like a breath of fresh air! All the guys at work save these projects for me. I'm pretty much the only one who gets excited about it. No one else understands old school simplicity and reliability.
    Ride more, wrench less!!

    • @mattcardarelli
      @mattcardarelli 2 роки тому

      7 speed shifts like butter compared to some of that modern junk!

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому +1

      @@mattcardarelli Ive got an old custom steel racing bike with Dura Ace 7400 7 speed from the mid '80s. This bike still shifts perfect after well over 100000 miles.
      This was Shimano's first version of click shifting. At the time, it was far and away the best shifting on the market.
      It is still super fast and ultra solid shifting as good as any electronic shifting. It has aged wonderfully after all these years. All I've ever needed to replace are chains, gears and cables. All the bearing components are still perfect.

  • @robhollenbeck6344
    @robhollenbeck6344 2 роки тому +1

    I’m 6’3” and found an XL Outpost Trail with a seized bottom bracket for less than a song and with some parts bin updates it has easily displaced my 29er as my preferred ride for trail fun #26aintdead

  • @decentdiversions
    @decentdiversions 2 роки тому +2

    I got my Rockhopper for $50 in 2015. Today, I can’t find a rear 26” wheel for that price. This summer, I did find a Peugeot MTB frame for $30 that’s been fun to build up. Weird sized headset (21.1mm) and seat post (26.6mm) on it tho.

    • @HoloScope
      @HoloScope 2 роки тому +1

      I got a pair of 26 inch wheels for 10$ at a thrift store here in Georgia.

  • @PaulStrople
    @PaulStrople 3 місяці тому

    I've got an early 2,000s Giant Rainier... and it's honestly the funnest thing EVER!

  • @TaylorGonz
    @TaylorGonz 2 роки тому

    So glad I scored my rockhopper frame for free from a friend, because it was out of his repair/tinker knowledge 🙏🏼

  • @gthompson4177
    @gthompson4177 2 роки тому +2

    You couldn't tell where I live (Washington state) that good bikes from the 90s or 2000s were climbing in price, people are straight taking older bikes to recycling centers and scrap yards around here. my last 3 cannondales that I got were either in a aluminum scrap pile (C400) or dropped off at the local recycling center (T400 and whatever the dual assault bikes are). The killer thing is that my T400, the dual assault bike and older Kona Lana'i were all had for $60, the T400 needed tires but other than that they were all ridable.

  • @Likelybiking
    @Likelybiking 2 роки тому +1

    I got an ‘86 Rockhopper in very good rideable condition for $40 usd. Definitely the best bargain I’ve gotten.
    It is now a drop bar touring bike

    • @kevinfeeney5309
      @kevinfeeney5309 2 роки тому +1

      I took a 93 Nishiki Pueblo and dirt drop bar'd it... hehe

  • @michaelscott7706
    @michaelscott7706 2 роки тому

    I just built a 92 Specialized Hardrock. Hardest part to find is a bottom bracket cable guide.

  • @theejoeylee
    @theejoeylee 2 роки тому +3

    Yes give me cheap cool retro frames, just to put modern goodness on. I like the feel of my 90s mtb more than my new TREK 29er monster truck. Feels like I'm a foot higher off the ground !

  • @mattyfrommacc1554
    @mattyfrommacc1554 Рік тому +1

    from the Konas and Marins, I have seen they are pretty reasonable compared to the modern equivalent, it's prob my age but like 3 x 7 drivetrains and cantilevers, I still have some Deore ones from the late 80s (non-low profile, which are excellent with modern & decent blocks and them cleaned and buffed up make them look almost brand new

  • @NinthwaveThe
    @NinthwaveThe 2 роки тому

    Last year, I bought a new Raleigh Carlton fixed for 350 C$ brand new. It was my first fixie and use it to commute (50 km RT). But with the fenders and rear rack, this thing weighs 17 kg (38 lbs). High tensile steel and straight blade fork. Not a supple bike.
    Now because it made me love the simplicity of a fixed gear, I'd like to get a more quick and nimble one. For this, I'd need at least brandless CrMo but a deal on a Tange or Reynolds would be nice.
    Now for your question: a second hand Tange or Reynolds these days cost nearly as much as a brand new Wabi Thunder frameset. This is where the answer is: it depends

  • @ronnisullivan9794
    @ronnisullivan9794 2 роки тому

    Prices here in Northern California have been higher than other places for a while. Still worth it and deals can be found if you’re patient

  • @noelbrown6771
    @noelbrown6771 2 роки тому

    There are good deals popping up all the time. Most people don't know that old bike in the rafters is sought after by certain communities. Have cash on hand and start your search. Use low grade components: good enough. Ride it, ride it, ride it. Upgrade after learning what the bike needs. Even modern bikes need upgrades/ customizing and fit. Much much cheaper with old bikes. New bikes need new parts

  • @JohnPilling25
    @JohnPilling25 2 роки тому

    Around here prices are going up in Fl with very little under a $100. Last month I picked up a 1999 Gary Fisher Joshua F4 for $40 complete rideable full suspension mtb. It’s been grit blasted as should be back from powder coating this week. A mix Al frame with Cr-Mo frame for the rear triangle and rockshox on the front. Am building it 1x using microShift. All up about $350 when finished maybe a bit more with new maxxis tyres if I think it’s worth it. Will probably sell it. Last October I found a couple of mid ‘90s Treks for $20ea. Built one into a 1x10 mtb with air damped shocks and put on hydraulic disc brakes. Great bike but way too expensive in the end even after I sold off a bunch of parts. Fixed the other 2 and flogged them for 150 and 350 but with about 150 in new parts between them. I think the demand bubble and resale price of refurbished 90’s mtb’s or road bikes is going to burst soon.

  • @lg5819
    @lg5819 2 місяці тому

    I have an old retro frame and forks. Its a Gary Fisher 1996 with an aluminium frame and chromoly rigid forks. The problem, the thread on the forks cannot be rethreaded and has completely worn down and corroded after the old headset stuck to it. I was considering sandblasting the frame and powder coating it, spray painting it in its original colour but in a Matt finish instead of a gloss. Perhaps adding the original decals or leaving it minimalist with no decals at all but putting a Gary Fisher metal head tube badge on the frame. As for the components, I’m not sure to source original second hand parts to make it look more authentic or source new components instead. The problem is, if I carry out this restoration I will need to source the same rigid forks, threaded (26”) otherwise there’s no point using rigid forks that aren’t authentic from that era when the bike was made. For the moment because I need a bike, until I decide, I bought a Gary Fisher Wahoo 1996 in wild cherry, and it’s in mint condition from Gumtree.

  • @bearded_borg
    @bearded_borg 2 роки тому

    im just getting in to this, and yes they are. bought a Rock machine flash from 96 for 120 bucks.

  • @obriaind
    @obriaind 2 роки тому

    There’s been some hints at this below, but the expensive part of a drop bar conversion now is drop bar parts. You can find a bike for

  • @LuluBejot
    @LuluBejot 2 роки тому

    Great mtb video! Keep going 🙂
    I’ve subscribed to your channel a while ago..

  • @ajthmmht
    @ajthmmht 2 роки тому

    The GTMX looks sick dude

  • @mracreative9589
    @mracreative9589 2 роки тому

    That's why I built my cheap commuter using an aluminium hybrid frame with surly straggler fork... Plus you get disc mounts! 👍🎉

  • @joen3992
    @joen3992 2 роки тому +1

    My birthday present this year was a mint, rideable 19988 GT Outpost. The closest you'd get to a rock hopper or stump jumper of that era. 3x6, cantilever brakes. Avara rims. I ride it every day more than any other bike. Is is worth upgrading to modern? No....just ride it. Eventually bump up the bike to 3x7.

    • @kevinfeeney5309
      @kevinfeeney5309 2 роки тому

      Started with a 3x6 on my nishiki Pueblo mtb... went straight to 7spd when I did the dirt drop bar conversion on it....eventually went to 9spd....haha

  • @kmantriing
    @kmantriing 2 роки тому

    Stumbled upon this channel as I started to mess around with a 1988 Brodie Climbmax fillet brazed frame I've had rusting under my deck since the 90s. What I thought was worthless junk is now a jewel and worthy of a sweet frame restoration, but I agree, I'm not attached to hanging period-correct bits on it and it will likely live out the rest of its life as a 1x with V brakes and gravel tires because it will get used. And likely abused.

  • @jackwilson8651
    @jackwilson8651 2 роки тому +1

    Basically, it’s Hot Rod culture that makes the old 26inch bikes cool. No Hot Rod is going to beat a Ferrari thoroughbred around a track. But that’s not the point. It’s the cool factor that goes with a Rod. Something creative and different using a different parts is exciting but people don’t do those things to a collectible.

  • @fcknsick
    @fcknsick 2 роки тому

    I have a beautiful green GT outpost complete and a Trek 850 frame for sale in Texas. Reasonably priced 👍

  • @omarsrigs7480
    @omarsrigs7480 2 роки тому

    I have been doing after market shopping overtime and some people let go of frames they don’t realize what is worth here in the Denver area. Some sit for weeks where you can haggle the price. Don’t be afraid to make lower offers then what they are asking for, for bikes that have been sitting for a week plus. From experience I have gotten deals where people want bikes out of there garage to clean out for dirt cheap. There are lots of expensive retro mtb bikes but I have seen a lot sit and some get lost in the listing for weeks with new items posted. Do lots of search but don’t be afraid to offer something you think you would pay. Worst is they say no and say thank you and move on. Always realize people’s so called tuned and restored is subjective when they are selling it to you. Good luck.

  • @frog-spit-182
    @frog-spit-182 2 роки тому

    I have a 94 Lava Dome and a 98 Rigid Rockhopper. I bought both this year for $50. I have dropped $1k into the Lava Dome on modern components (looks awesome, terrible value). Rockhopper now sits unfinished because I'm scared to go down the rabbit hole again but I will eventually. Couldn't imagine paying modern entry-level hardtail prices for the initial bikes, they do ride great as-is but to me, they serve as a cheap canvas for the bike you want to build. I still love my retro bikes and the boom in interest for old bikes in general. It inspired me to build from scratch for the first time and has me looking at bikes of all years I previously just wrote off but now seem super interesting/appealing to me. If only everything was 2019 prices.

  • @caseypleasant1922
    @caseypleasant1922 Рік тому

    Yesssss....have you seen retro BMX bike prices??? Ppl really going crazy with what they expect ppl to pay for them

  • @Alderonn10
    @Alderonn10 2 роки тому +1

    I just got a Giant Sedona 26" and a Trek 930 26" ridged frame bike for free. tubes tires and lube, maybe a set of handles and brake/shift cables and we are rolling

    • @Spindatt
      @Spindatt  2 роки тому +1

      Love this! There’s still a bunch of good deals to be had for sure. It’s the ones that “know what they’ve got” lol

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 2 роки тому

      It's out there gathering dust in peoples garages. They want to be rid of it. You've just gotta look! Read up on old mtb history. Old 'junk' was much better quality than new junk.
      Be patient and creative. That is the key!

  • @prankmeteors1203
    @prankmeteors1203 2 роки тому +3

    I'm getting a jump on the next trend by snapping up the best 20" wheel girls' bikes. If it isn't pink or doesn't have butterfly/unicorn decals, I pass.

  • @tecdesigns8183
    @tecdesigns8183 2 роки тому

    I think it depends on seller some just ask way to much money, and others don't know what they have. I recently noticed a gt palomar on the side of the road here in UK. Asked if they were getting rid of it, they said please take it they left it out for scrap. It's very original needs a few bits. I'd also been given a Dawes galaxy AL some had tried to use 26inch wheels instead of 700c they wondered why the brakes didn't work.
    I get a lot more pleasure from resurrecting a cheap or free bike than a prestige show pony.

  • @anthonyzhang4918
    @anthonyzhang4918 2 роки тому

    I got my perfectly rideable Cannondale M900 for $150 bucks. I was able to trail ride it the same day after a quick cleaning to get it shifting, and adding some air in the tires. Since then, I've changed to a 1x8 drivetrain, carbon handbars, and a carbon seatpost. Have I put more into the bike than I bought it for? Yes, but it was a hell of a lot of fun to build and upgrade. Now, I'm looking into some new wheels so I can have two sets of tires.
    Was it worth it financially? IDK, I could have gotten a Vitus Nucleus 29er for a couple hundred more. Worth it for the enjoyment and learning how to work on bikes? I think so. That being said, I'm still planning to get a Nucleus in the spring haha

  • @karanvaid
    @karanvaid 2 роки тому

    I came across your channel, last month, after I bought a Specialized HardRock 1995 in India. It didn't cost me a too much...sourcing parts has become a problem though...

  • @MrRobbrag
    @MrRobbrag 2 роки тому +5

    recycling old bikes good for the environment.

  • @jorgefdezfdez5244
    @jorgefdezfdez5244 2 роки тому

    it depends in what you pay for. I have bought a Specialized Rockhopper 1991 a month ago and it was all original and no more than 80km the owner did. No rust, always protected, mint paint frame, etc…. 350e looked a lot but the bike was like amnew bike. I sold the tires in Ebay in 100e .

  • @pavanatanaya
    @pavanatanaya Рік тому +2

    Ive got a Trek 950 all original. Dont parts swap, renew the old parts and make them work well

    • @audacityhour3104
      @audacityhour3104 Рік тому

      What do you think about the 1994 820? Awesome, ok, or could be better?

    • @pavanatanaya
      @pavanatanaya Рік тому

      @@audacityhour3104 OK bike. mass produced and generally good quality...I enjoy digging into the shifters and getting them working like new

  • @selder03
    @selder03 2 роки тому

    Just by the title..... YES!

  • @Wannaridebikes
    @Wannaridebikes 2 роки тому

    Yes where I live a plain old mtb trek giant any name brand the bike is going for over 150 to 300

  • @thesausage351
    @thesausage351 Рік тому

    Oh man I shouldn’t have seen that GTBMX, lol. I have a GT triangle frame sitting in my storage now, and I didn’t really have a plan for it, I was originally man I’ve wanted a 26” BMX for a long time, and although mine is chrome I think it’s a good candidate to make into a BMX. I have this mint Marin mountain bike I was going to do a modern conversion on but it’s too good to mess with, but I’d love it to be practical and ride it. That’s the issue I have, it’s too nice to mess with

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler 2 місяці тому

    I could afford a Stumpjumper in the 90's so I got a used Rockhopper for maybe $300. It's great making $6 an hour with a lot of overtime

  • @alexandertaylor8870
    @alexandertaylor8870 2 роки тому +1

    I have been realizing most of the things you said during my journey into building up retro mtb's. Find a good frame and fork for low price and throw your own parts on and be creative. If you buy too nice a bike, it'll be a waste of money and you won't get to upgrade it as much.

  • @SupriYanto-zo3pi
    @SupriYanto-zo3pi 2 роки тому +1

    Keren - keren mas...BIKE...nya.👍👍👍

  • @gregrobertson9957
    @gregrobertson9957 Рік тому

    Parts are crazy. RST shifters were recently going for $155/pair. So if you're gonna do a 3x7 dropbar something like that is what you need. If you do a dropbar with modern drive trains you have to change pretty much everything...then it makes it questionable as to worth. They are very cool though.

  • @Ey_up
    @Ey_up 2 роки тому

    Tooday, in Edinburgh, Scotland
    For sale: Specialized Stumpjumper- really nicely cleaned-up and simply done. But do I really want to pay £550 ($954.76CAN) for a bike that has been completed to someone else's (pretty original) spec? No! Because I want to RIDE IT!

  • @gogoasuncion6692
    @gogoasuncion6692 2 роки тому

    Me I’m in my 50s and all I wanted is something like your GTMX

  • @donewhiskey
    @donewhiskey 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man, just got the mug. I love it! Ride cheap ass bikes!

  • @lilosmosis
    @lilosmosis 2 роки тому

    My Outpost Trail is basically my favorite bikes, got it for free years ago and is the basis for all tinker projects. I could never imagine selling it lol

  • @nobodycycles16
    @nobodycycles16 2 роки тому

    I agree. It is kind of expensive. Depends on what you're trying to do. Bought a Bridgestone CB 0 zip for $200 this year. I only changed the tires, handlebar, and stem. I use it as a commuter. Already had the tires. Probably spent 20 bucks on parts. So not too bad.

  • @steveprice9737
    @steveprice9737 2 місяці тому

    We get these things donated to our bike project all the time. The really good vintage bikes are great for kids getting a taste of racing, tend to be 90s Rockhoppers, Treks etc. GT are usually too heavy for kids..
    My race bike is a Kili, mostly original spec , I'm 61 and raced in the 90s so can cope with 26" wheels and minimal suspension....Not sure I'd bother buying high end retro, some was more bling than use. The last stumpy I raced on was nowhere near as good as the Kili... function over form.

  • @the_blair_bike_project
    @the_blair_bike_project 2 роки тому

    I see that purple Rockhopper listed at $400 in chitown right now

  • @roberthuffmann8204
    @roberthuffmann8204 2 роки тому

    There are still a lot of good deals out there on quality bikes that haven’t been overhyped.

  • @abhinay4779
    @abhinay4779 2 роки тому

    Tange Infinity IS seamed cromoly butted tubing. It’s was tange’s way of figuring out producing high quality frames at a lower cost.

  • @yanncampbell9950
    @yanncampbell9950 2 роки тому

    Got a Rocky Mountain Fusion 1994 for 40$ two weeks ago. With the purchase of wheels, tyres, tubes and a new headset installed, I've spent closer to 230-250$ on it now. But that's because I didn't have the parts, time and knowledge to overhaul the headset. Concludion: if you have parts available in your parts bin, the proper tools and time to work on it (I have a baby...) then yes, you can find good deals.

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker 2 роки тому

    Pristine Dad or Grandma bikes are often too expensive. I got nattered at for metro’ing an 84 Trek with an internal hub at an LBS by the BIKE AUTHORITY hanger on. Local lawyer bike racer. My winter project is an $20 US 2000 GT Saddleback I picked up on FB yesterday. Frame out with modern components build maybe done by March.

  • @tomatostakefabrik9429
    @tomatostakefabrik9429 2 роки тому

    Has Old Shovel chimed in yet on this? That dude finds the best old bikes!

  • @drewstreet4178
    @drewstreet4178 Рік тому

    Like you said depends what you're gonna do with it and the price, my bikes consist of
    1. Main work horse a roughly 2013 budget argos??? Bike a Challenge Spectre 26" v brake retro style steel mtb with semi horizontal dropouts that I stripped down and rebuilt with 0 original parts and it's now a single speed rigid machine I've had this since new as it was my first mtb at the time
    2. A 1998 GT Timberline All terra in turquoise, got this in perfect condition all original for £75 on bids on eBay I've since changed a few bits like wider bars nicer stem to suit me saddle and avid single digit 5 r brakes
    3. Just purchases another 1998 GT Timberline All terra turquoise but justthe frame and battered at that for £20 to make into another commuter
    4. Also just purchased a (unsure of the year) GT Tempest in yellow for £50 ,frame only again to build into a rigid trail bike with new components
    And I have a few other bikes but they're not important to my retro mtb comment, anyway depending on price and use they can be very much worth it, also hear me out even if you spend thousands on an all original klein pulse race, please don't use as just a shiny no spec of dust man cave piece and get it covered it mud

  • @99EMERSONIC99
    @99EMERSONIC99 2 роки тому

    Here in Costa Rica it got so stupid to the point... YOU CAN'T FIND THEM!!! I was looking for a steel 90's frame to do some parts bin build and could get anything decent (brand wise) cause for some reason people are hanging on to them in awaits of higher price lol. So I found a no-brand 26 frame for REALLY cheap ($20) and built it up to a 1x9 front brake comute bike, I'm collecting the parts to go dropbars....

  • @SharkeyGEE
    @SharkeyGEE 2 роки тому

    Yes! Thought about it but bought new instead. Just not going to pay the inflated premium that people want, for me it was supposed to be a cheap tinker project alongside my main bikes etc.

  • @seanwelsh2519
    @seanwelsh2519 2 роки тому

    Please do a Christmas light ride using the Work Truck bike!!!

  • @user-nn3ic1iy2k
    @user-nn3ic1iy2k Рік тому

    i think we need to give life to these bikes thank you for the video i want to teach how to fix bikes because there is a bike that needs to be repaired