I owned a mobile home park in Durango, CO. A corp from CA came in and wanted to buy. Their game plan was to purchase and jack up the rents. The residents there found a non-profit agency to assist them with purchasing the property and I sold it to them...win win for everyone except the California corporation.
@@dalepxp8963 I had owned the property for 15 years. It was a 3.5 hour drive over mountains to get to it and finding a property management company to handle it to my specifications was virtually impossible.
There needs to be a nationwide movement to stop this. mobile and van living needs to be protected. It’s the last line of defense against what’s happening now!
I took your advice Bob and bought 6 acres of cheap land in an " off-grid community" in Arizona! No HOA! It"s called "Bridge Canyon Country Estates". Grow your own food. Water catchment allowed! Large trees on properties for shade! They have a club house ( no dues) where you can meet like-minded off-grid people for helpful ideas! Nearby attractions: Historic Old Route 66 and the Grand Canyon!
Big thanks to Bob Wells for getting me organized & up to speed on everything I needed as a senior female to survive the disaster of Covid and divorce. I already gathered all of this information after watching the Nomadland movie and looking Bob Wells up. I realized I wasn’t a good candidate for nomad, but I bought a travel trailer and truck anyway just in case that was my only option. Then I did a deep dive into Zillow, and just waited and waited until the perfect opportunity presented itself for buying land. I am now a tiny homesteader in a national forest, living in a vintage hunting cabin on half an acre with my own water well. I have my travel trailer and truck as a back up system so I can go nomad if I need to. The money I saved, listening to Bob Wells got me through the last two years to get a an income going. And all my pets thank him because they were headed to the shelter when my life got turned upside down by Covid and a crazy husband after 20 years of marriage. Just watching him teach old gals like me how to survive and make it gave me the confidence I needed when I thought all was lost. So shout out to Bob! You just keep doing what you’re doing, honey! 💋😘
I am 64 solo van lifer and I want to get some land in Missouri I have no idea how to use Zillow to find the type of land I'm looking for How do I do it
@carolmaplesden916 I use zillow. I learned by logging on to the site & clicking around on it. I suggest you don't get in a hurry & educate yourself. UA-cam has imfo. On buying rural land. Use education and caution.
I LOVE THIS, I too am PREPARING, it's essential in my situation, and the deep sadness I fear for our 🌎. Micro living, on a piece of land. Your all set. Will u be my mentor🙃😁, YOU & Bob give me hope
Springfield, MO has a place where people can park their tiny homes or RVs and live fairly in expensively in a little community setting. Need LOTS more like that. Zoning rules need to be changed to allow alternative housing.
I would like to know as well. I would rather live in close proximity to others in a small community rather than alone in the desert. BTW, I am 66 with zero family, no kids, grands, or even nieces or nephews. I have multiple chronic but not incapacitating illnesses so I must be close to decent medical care, close enough that once I can’t drive someone can drive me or I can get medical transport to take me.
I think this is it. Don’t remember where I heard about it. I have bought property east of there to put an RV on. www.youtube.com/@sgfmomhp2836/featured
@@6248cjl the desert thing doesn't appeal to me either. I'm full time in an RV park in OR. I have an 18 ft travel trailer and have been here for four years. Like you I have health issues so I stay close to my doctors
My friend bought land about 30 miles out of Flagstaff in the middle of nowhere, then find out the county only allowed camping on your own land 90 days a year. If he wants to stay longer he must do improvements, like putting in electricity.
So good to see this video of two good friends talk about the ageing population in a caring way that comforts me and others so much. I bought an old house in a small sleepy town 10 yrs back that i could afford as i knew i needed a secure home to recover from brain surgeries. I moved away from friends and family which was risky but it has paid off and i have had time to heal without the worry of rent or mortgage payments. The townfolk were kind and supportive and i thank God i was lead to do this. Sometimes we do have to make that leap of faith even though it can mean big sacrifices with it. I have no regrets as a 73 yr elder and have learnt to be strong and to trust in Gods goodness and faithfulness. Its amazing what he will do when we are willing to step out and trust him. ❤
You took a risk and made a very wise decision and God has provided as he always does. So happy to hear that things worked out for you. It is hard to go outside of our comfort zone. But so often that is where our future blessings are if we can only have the faith to act.
This is why I love the nomad community so much because we are looking for answers and acting upon them. I love what Bob is doing so much. During the pandemic I came across his channel and it was like a breath of fresh air. He really gave me hope to change my mindset and figure out a better way to live and thrive. Love love our community. Thank you for doing this video.
I bought land . I can put a tent on and live . No one can run me off . I started with a fithwheel and now have a beautiful modern cabin 520 sqft offgrid . So blessed
@@denisestarr2314 - HA!!!!!! I have been wanting to buy land near Woodburn, OR for a few years (I live in southern CA) so I can spend a week on it in my Roadtrek class B. I'm "old" and a semi-retired Realtor, not a fed or any government connection. I want to be able to vacation on a piece of private land if I want to. Heck, I also have several tents that I want to use as I prefer. And I'd like to have a group of friends join me if I so desire. So I was asking for those reasons. ** If anyone knows of any acreage where I can do that, please let me know!!! **
I purchased my land so I can have a home base after living in my car for 18 months, knowing at my age apartment living in a city is to high. I got 3.55, saved and paid cash.. best decision ever..
Would you mind me asking when, where and how much you paid for 3.55 acres. I want 5 acres preferably in Georgia. I really want Florida, but the insurance rates scare me. However, I did hear that there's no law that states you have to have home owners insurance if your house is paid off.
Zoning laws is the key. One can buy land and then discover the County will not allow them to stay on it. Another huge issue is water. A lot of land is cheap because there is no water available. Will you have to have it delivered? Will someone even offer the service, and at what cost. Cheap land can cost you dearly in the long run. It is cheap because it is not desirable. find out why before you buy. Maybe roads are impassable during winter, maybe no stores for hundreds of miles, maybe a hog farm is near and when the wind changes directions it is nasty. Maybe an airport or something else makes noise. Maybe no medical services, no law enforcement if help is needed. So many things can be a problem .
I found a gem of a piece 2 years ago. When I had the title search done. A mineing company had bought the mineral rights 30 years earlier. The company was no longer mineing but they wanted to keep the rights. I could have lived on the land and did any developing I wanted. But at anytime the mine company could escavated, said they probably never would. But I was not willing to invest money into something that could be potentially useless.
He's one of the most intelligent people I've come across in many years! Undoubtely one of my favorite people, and I've never even met the guy! You can just tell he is such a well-read man with so much love and respect for other people in his heart!
Just make sure there’s no restrictions on your land because there are so many hidden issues these days. Everybody is so hateful and out to make things as hard as possible for struggling seniors. You have to check the neighborhood restrictions, then you check municipal restrictions for the town and then you check restrictions for the county and finally your restrictions for the state. All of them. You can’t just look at one of those and say that’s all there is to it. A lot of the restrictions conflict with each other and the one that wins out is the most local one to you. So it doesn’t matter if the state allows something. If your neighborhood has a charter that doesn’t allow XYZ… Then you’re not allowed to do it, no matter what the state law says. The first thing everybody needs to do is file for homestead status. This year I got a $467 refund on my taxes which means I paid almost nothing. Then Texas just passed property tax laws. That puts me way under the limit so I won’t have to pay any taxes on my Homestead for the foreseeable future. By the time I owe taxes that I would not be able to pay because I live very near a lake that is probably going to get developed one day… I will be able to sell this piece of land for 5-10 times what I paid. Right now in the housing crisis and after I cleaned up the tiny home on my land and did a little bit of re-decorating and so forth… on a shoestring budget… I can turn this place over and get double or even triple what I paid for it in a heartbeat. If I wanted to, I probably can hold out and get even more. Then I just hook up my trailer to my truck and go nomad and find another land deal and flip it too. But right now I’m enjoying the idea of staying here for as long as possible because I’m nice and comfortable. As long as it stays that way, that’s what I’m doing. I have Bob Wells to thank for bringing me up to speed on all this stuff and give me the idea to do what I’ve done which has avoided homelessness, given me an income, given me a place I could live, even if everything dried up and I had to go off grid, and giving me a back up plan to go nomad if these crazy people come at me and make living here impossible because of all the crazy restrictions everybody’s inventing to attack poor people and seniors. Good luck and just make sure your land has no restrictions that you can’t live with.
@@chelseacraft4669 and do NOT buy anything near water ... streams rivers etc and look for designated wet lands... permitting is impossible local and then also have to go through COE !!! Don't even look at that land! Plus... don't believe anything the realtor says... go to the county and city offices and see paperwork yourself, rules etc. Septic tank drain fields often require more land than you think. A power pole might only be for agriculture..so you have to have something living/growing to pull from the power even for your residence... have any well checked for viability... yea fresh water well might be tainted and unusable. Do not trust anyone.
I think exploring that community living aspect would be great. 50 or 100 tiny homes/vehicles on 40 acres could lead to a great life. If everyone was putting in say $100 per month, infrastructure on the property could be built up fairly rapidly over just a few years. IE. Ablutions/laundry, Gardens/green house farming , Community rooms/clubhouse, solar and wind power generation....communal water catchment projects. It'll take a few years but could be very rewarding :)
I applied for Section 8 housing and was on a waiting list for a year and applied for about 10 apartments that take Section 8 and also have income based housing. I now have an apartment, a dog, a car, in a 40 unit senior housing with all units ground level. I am living on social security and pay $281 a month rent and Section 8 pays $274. This is a Tax Credit complex. You have to do your research. You don't want to live in a multi-age complex ( kids, noise, drinking, drugs, problems) Don't wait, get active now. You can always say no, if and when you are offered a place. This is an option, especially if you are not so able bodied anymore and need grocery and prescription deliveries, rides to medical appointments, and home aides coming in ( health, PT, cleaning etc...). I'm in Western NC.
Lots of small forclosed homes or cheap used mobile homes for sale on property that already have utilities on it, that full-time RVers can use as a base! And storage! Solves the zoning problem! 😊
Wow...I,m teary eyed..Bob giving you a Big endoresment..A Great interview... of course...I agree with both of you....as I,a nomad, approaching,75.... am buying a tiny home....in a Safe and Loving community....where we can help each other....Kudos to you both for loving and caring about us Nomads❤😊
My job used to include Malibu CA. There’s a lot of land but no taker. First of all people can’t live in RV on their own land. 2nd, it is very expensive to bring water main and roadway for fire trucks. When Fire Department can’t sign off, no development or living on land you own. Dealing with zoning and infrastructure issues is frustrating, time consuming, and often expensive. Perhaps remote land you may move a trailer or small home there without too many red tapes. But you run into delivery, medical care, and daily necessity issues in old age. When looking for small home communities, make sure to pay attention to location and supporting communities and businesses. Being too remote will isolating seniors when driving is not possible.
Bob is a pioneer on this topic. He has done a lot for the nomad community. I think you have to have an exit plan as you get older. Owning the ground under you is the only way to have some security. I live in New England. No way would this lifestyle be supported here. Arizona seems to be the state of choice for most. Spend winters in the southern part of the state and summers in the northern part. Thank you for this video. I love your channel, also!
Hey don't say that about New England. I and born and raised in NE and bought raw land and own it outright. I built my own place. You can snowbird down to Florida from New England if you hate the winter.
I think a lot like you . Looking for 2 pieces of land with fishing . Climate change is a consideration for my future inheritors. I can’t handle extreme heat . 1 tiny home and a camper then eventually a small place at both .
👍This is such a fantastic and informative interview! I learned things that I had no idea about or that are happening. Thanks to the both of you for taking the time to have and share this conversation! ❤
After renting for 40 years in the San Francisco Bay Area my wife and I purchased a 1.5 acre parcel of "raw" land near Williams Az. in 2016. We've been working on it for 7 years now. We are nearing completion of our "Mountain lodge style Timber Frame cabin" made with our own hands from lumber I milled myself. It was always my dream to build our home with my own hands. Couldn't do what I'm doing in California. We are still working and living in Half Moon Bay , Ca. but we are getting closer to rent-free living and debt-free. Vehicles are paid for , no CC debt and the property taxes in Williams are only $350/ year. If you dream about something long enough and work towards it (no matter how slow) then before you realize it you are living the life that you had only dreamed about.
Carol and Bob you are both awsome and amazing humans..I admire you both! 75 and widowed my road life is going to begin in May and all because I started watching Bob in 2018 when my hubby was still here and Carol started with you in 2021. God Bless you both and Thank you from bottom of my heart
Love this interview and agree with Bob. Having a piece of land doesn't mean you still can't enjoy vanlife. When it it gets to be a bit much, you will always have a safe place to land. Also, you have chosen wisely to follow Carol as she truly does have a " Heart of Gold". 😊
Bob Welch already has his own piece of land he bought a nice piece of land already.. he's a smart man because you called me back to your van forever so having a base or a piece of land is awesome even put tiny houses on with retirees can live cheap and simple and have freedom..
Aw love this! My two favorite UA-camrs talking about such an important topic. I’ve been pricing land too as I want the security it gives me as well as a place to stay for a while between travels. Thanks for sharing Carol and Bob!
Owning a house seems to be more of a trap these days. I sold everything and gave the rest away. Been full time now 2.5 years. I honestly don’t regret it. Only around Christmas I miss my home I sold.
I hear you. The expense alone just of upkeep will break you. Even if the house is paid for,homeowners insurance, Property taxes, fixing breakdowns,roof repairs.....right now, I have to have my entire roof replaced...and that's just the damned roof...much more needs to be done as well....
@@beautifuldreamer3991 I went through this when my house was on the market. It sold 4 times then they all fell through! A total of 4 inspections!!!! Every inspection cost me more money! About 6,000 all together. I seriously doubt I ever buy another house. I sure didn’t make a bunch of money. I like my life NOW which is a ton simpler!! Good luck Beautiful Dreamer. Hope everything works out for you! And you know what I tell myself when I feel down? “Jesus was a nomad” and so am I. ❤️❤️❤️
@@beautifuldreamer3991 you can get a decent price for a full roof replacement if you ask, negotiate and shop around. I live in an area of suburban NYC where everything is expensive. I was able to get a complete rip out and replacement roof for 12k. Most other roofers were asking no less than 17k and as high as 25k. They did an okay job for the money, destroyed my gardens, but the job is done!
@@beautifuldreamer3991 yup, I’m in the same situation. I had a new roof put on a few yrs ago and last year a new furnace . This summer a huge tree needs taken down. Did a few other upkeeps and it’s never ending. I still have to work to supplement my retirement. It’s crazy!
Great interview Carol. I am sending this video message around to friends because it does need to be heard. So glad you and Bob were able to do this together.🥰👍👏
I have a question Bob. If we aren’t going to have water what good will buying land be? Maybe I’m not understanding but if you buy a piece of property to park on don’t you need to bring in water and electricity and sewage? Those are pricy utilities to add to land. My kids want to buy a big piece of property and have a family commune on it. Sounds wonderful to this grandma 😊
We have always told our subscribers that if you can afford it get a home base somewhere. You never know when you may become sick or disabled. As we especially know as both Derec & I become disabled when it definitely wasn't in our plans. Both ended up on disability. Everyone should be planning & saving for when they become elderly or for emergencies such as illness or injury.
I bought a small 70 x 100 ft lot with public water, electric, internet, and an existing existing septic. It is in a small village, but there is no zoning, restrictions, or permits. its 12 miles to Wally World and amenities, 25 miles to regional hospital. I paid $1200 cash. This is just to illitrate & encourage others to keep looking, cheap places are out there. S. Missouri & N Arkansas have lots of cheap places. Lots of lakes & rivers, deer, turkey, etc. Cold half the year and hot the other half. Many owner finance too. Great advice Bob!
I bought 2ac as a home base. It had a mobile home there for 6 years and the owner sold that. So it already had a well and septic only 6 years old. I had a metal carport installed with a power pole.
We have talked about doing that. It is going to take some time to do the proper research. But, Apache countybin Arizona appears to be less restrictive than many.
Be still my heart~~~The best interviewers on you tube (or any medium for that matter) doing a vlog together! Thank you both for sharing your wisdom. Your generous and loving hearts help so many enjoy life with dignity no matter their circumstances.
Bob, so many municipalities prohibit RVers/van dwellers living on their own land. I would love to hear your opinion on what counties/municipalities are friendly to the lifestyle. Thanks! FJ
Bob and I just talked about that today when we met and are planning on doing something in the future to provide some information on that very topic. From what Bob amd I both have heard Apache county in Arizona appears to have fewer restrictions than most. However, I do know that even there if you are going to add electricity you must have a septic tank first.
I live in South Georgia on the Florida border in a rural county. I was able to purchase less than an acre of land and had the improvements of water sewer and electric installed. I then had a metal camper Port installed and put my 8 by 10 ft camper under the port. I use this as my home base when I'm not traveling. I've owned it since 2017. I did my due diligence before I bought the property to see if I could live in my camper on the property full-time. The county said they had no ordinances against that. I would have preferred to live in Florida but every county I checked in Florida does that allow you to live in your camper full-time unless you are located in an RV park. I know several people in Florida who live on their own land full time in their RV. They have done it for years but I checked with the county that they're located in and since it is illegal, I just bought across the boarder in GA where they allow it. My county property is only two miles from the city. That proximity is going to become important to me as I get older. Remember owning land means paying taxes. In the 6 years that I've owned the land the taxes have increased by $400 per year. Currently equates to $33 a month. Also pay water, sewage, electric bills. All things I wanted to be comfortable in old age. Humidity in this part of Georgia is extremely high and I don't know how anyone can live without AC during certain months. I am expecting another tax increase because the tax assessor came by my property 2 months. I'm just trying to keep it real with you guys. Best wishes.
There are fewer pieces of land where you can legally stay in any kind of vehicle, the zoning is out of control and it can change on you while you are living there! Worst to me though is most land that is inexpensive and you can do a tiny house or RV has no water. So if things start falling apart you will not be able to stay with no water. If fuel become unavailable and those who deliver can't and you have no fuel to go get it yourself, you're screwed. Water is life, it is the most important element for any long-term scenario.
WHAT ABOUT WATER? I was planning to buy land in central Arizona to establish a tiny home community. And then I heard the program on public radio. About the devastating effects of running out of water. There were people who put everything they had into building their dream home in Arizona. And then their well ran dry. Farmers both legal and illegal (growing marijuana), dairy farmers, and who knows what else will compete for your water? Especially when Phoenix runs dry? So Bob - what's a realistic way to think about water when you're buying land?
Many College Towns have Student Housing that is 4 Students sharing a 4 Bed 4 Bath Apt. The key is, each one is only responsible for 1/4 of the lease and damage to your room and bathroom etc. To my knowledge they do not offer this to any other demographic. I think this type of housing is the answer for Seniors. You get your own space, plus shared space, and you are not liable if your room mates do not pay the rent. Even if you are okay with taking on the liability of all the rent, traditional room mate situation also requires each person on the lease qualify for the entire lease amount which if you could afford that much, you would not need a room mate.
Once saw a story where some people worked together to build tiny cabins and share one kitchen and laundry building to save money. That could work as well.
Hi Carol and hello Bob. Thank you both for this interview. I have several comments. One mistake builders are making Is putting concrete foundations on filled in drainage land. Our wet lands are for overflow of water, not homesites. City streets being overflowed is the result of water not having space to permeate.😢. I am sure you told Bob about Randy's Incredibox and his off grid proposed community in Crystal NV. The solar power ITH is making available to nomads is futuristic. I wonder if Bob and/or Homes On Wheels has made progress on purchasing property across the US and especially the East for nomad parking. I am so glad you met him and was able to share ideas. ❤️
I just love the Incred-I-box. That’s my goal. I can’t move to NV. Lived in Vegas 5 years. Health care not good enough for my needs. I’m looking at Why, AZ or Caballo Loco, both close enough to Tucson and the Univ of AZ and their heart program.
Bob is right. You need to own the land and you need to have a way to be mobile so you can leave if you need to be living somewhere else. It’s hard to know where the best place is with water shortages in some places but there are answers out there. Thank you being a media source for those answers. 💕
I live in Arizona and will soon be a nomad. I would like to buy land as you say…but how do you get around the laws of Arizona that state you can not live on land in your RV?
@@debracochran1826 I think you have to build a structure or home with water power and septic tank for sewage You can get temporary power with a building permit so you might be able to live in a Camper while you build if it's on grid
@@debracochran1826 You have to find deedless and unincorporated land. You have to get in writing that you can do anything on that land, from farming to living in a trailer to having solar. I'm finding a lot of land but many places have deeds and rules to abide by. it's a challenge, but I think I will contact a lawyer and find out everything I need to know in the state I wish to purchase land, before i sign on the dotted line. Thankfully I can buy several acres and when I do, I will start my own little gathering place.
I have 300 acres in eastern Kentucky. A beautiful pond running creek a lot of walking trails or drive on them I like what she’s talking about so what can I do?
I'm not sure exactly what you would want to do. Whatever you want your first stop would probably be your local city or county planning department to find out what is allowed. I met someone who bought property in Kentucky to put up a tiny house and there are some tight restrictions where she lives on size and construction. It has to meet regular construction standards. Do you want to have a tiny house community or a quasi rv park or somewhere that people can park. How long are people allowed to live in rvs on the property, what is the zoning, etc. From your description the property sounds beautiful. If you want to communicate more you can reach me at Gloriouslifeonwheels@gmail.com
A much needed video with sound recommendations. And it's true about opening up our hearts to one another, to care about another human being. Thank you.
Water is the big issue....no water....no good.also....in Arizona, even if you drill for water,they not only have to go very deep,but no guarantee of hitting water and then if you did, no guarantee the water may be potable..it may be too saline. I due a due diligence on a property in AZ, and I discussed it with a water driller and he was very honest with me and he's the one that told me that. He also informed me that water hauling is done,but again,what happens when the water runs out?
Yeah when you drive on the 303 around Phoenix we cringe as we see thousands of houses being built in jazzy named subdivisions ALL OVER. Also driving through Las Vegas last xmas we saw the same on the sides of a couple of the freeways. New houses by the thousands all over. I kept saying over and over "WOW where is all the water coming from"???? Tucson is the same. Maybe up in Northern AZ its a tiny bit better. I know many UA-camrs with property up there do the "Truck water in" routine.
Simply having land or property doesn't mean much if you don't have water or utilities. Lots of people are building in the desert SW but where is all the water going to come from? Sure we got plenty of snowfall and rain recently but if one believes that climate change is going to be a disaster, you might want to rethink living out west. Here's the problem in my local area, property taxes keep going up and retirees on a fixed income are struggling because our local government keeps spending money like crazy. My wife and I are paying $6,000 a year on property taxes while our neighbor next door with a big house is paying $11,000 a year for the same size lot. There's financial incentive to not make any improvements because your taxes will just go up. We're doing ok but think about the retirees that lived in their house their whole lifes and now might lose their home if they can't pay that property tax.
I live in Florida and completely agree with this scenario. I am retired and my house is paid for, but the insurance is getting so expensive I'm seriously thinking of selling and hitting the road.
Some of the BEST advice out there...land is finite...My wife and I have a small parcel that over the years, 15 to be exact..lol..., and in those years we have piece-by-piece built a small off grid tiny home/cabin (350 sq ft) out of pocket. We actually could live in if needed...we always say it is a place we can move if needed and suggest like this videos also says...BUY SOME LAND!!! and plan for something like that!..You wont regret it!
Perfect timing. From Bobs video about purchasing land i began a search. A man purchased a parcel in San Bernardino 1.5 acres. So the parcel next to him was also purchased. The new neighbor put up a fence encroaching on the man’s land and uses his land to enter his land. The lawyer on the radio said if you are not living on your new land full time, you will need to get another survey and then warn your neighbor and if necessary tear down his fence. So the man says what if we have a all out bad relationship and there is nothing but fighting. What then. This was my fear after Bobs video. This is happening to many who are purchasing affordable parcels. Police won’t get involved because it’s civil. some people bought their land, came back 6 months later and someone had squatted on his land. Now he has had to hire a lawyer and each survey shows something different. The man has not been able to get this guy off his new land. He out up a fence and gate and at 75 is not happy and does not know what to do. I wish Bob would talk about this because it’s more the norm.
That is an unfortunate situation. We are.not attorneys so this is not legal advice, simply my opinion. I, Carol, would put up "no tresspassing" signs and them haven he neigjbor tresspassed if they came onto my property with out permission. But it unfortunately needs the guidance from law officials and probably an attorney too.
@Glorious Life on Wheels. very true Carol. We owned land that said “ No trespassing” when it was trespassed the police said “ this is a civil matter” sue them in civil court. Also we lived in an area where police were within 25 min. Out in the desert there are no police. Bottom line Police do not do anything about land trespassed only businesses. I follow a couple on you tube where a neighbor put up a fence on his land. They each have had it surveyed 4 times each. It’s been almost 2 years and they can’t get the fence down. They are now arch enemies. Who wants to live like that. Isn’t that the whole reason we become nomads? Generally people have no idea what truly goes on with buying land. The only way to keep it private is to never leave it. That’s why people had rifles in the old days to protect their land.
@Lily Gazou. so Lily what do you do the first time one of your group decides they want to burn rubber tires, have a late party, adopt 4 barking dogs, shall I go on. Do you not remember reading about the old days when neighborhoods were being formed? Once you buy land “ together” you are stuck. Who is going to buy you out if it doesn’t work out for you? NO ONE. No offense, I usually respect Bobs ideas but this one was very stupid. People can’t “share land” next to each other without space and rules. That is why HOA s were created. You have zero idea how much you really learn about people you “ think” you know till you ,i’ve with them and shared land is living with them
Bob Wells has told would exactly after my mouth I've been saying this and preaching this for years having a home base is the best thing to do robin live out of your van ever I do not getting a piece of land is what I plan to get in a couple of years guaranteed he's absolutely right..
Carol will you mention me to Bob Wells? I should be able to join everyone by late spring. On one of Bob's videos, he interviewed Phil Causey with Awesome Possum in which he offered his acreage to repair or redo on his property outside of Graham, Texas. Phil has worked on my 14' box van for about 5 months now. I knew I couldn't do all the heavy work of conversion. Decorating is my part. I have admired Bob for a long time. He is like the hub of the wheel with spokes going every direction. Since Bob put out Phil Causey/Awesom Possum here just an hour from where I live, I have gratitude for both. Phil has walls, floor, ceiling,both wired for battery use and also put electrical wiring when I can afford the solar setup, my Maxx Air fan, took off garage door type and built the permanent wall with door and window. Also placed another window for cross ventilation. He is putting can lights now and wall plates for USB. I just want everyone to see that labor was only $4,000. If I relocated there to stay at $35 month, I could stay as long as it took. But I have a job that pays enough to have him do it. One day I will meet you and finish the story. As usual Bob knows what to do, where to go and what to expect. He has a heartbeat of gold and Carol, you are catching up with him. I so enjoy your videos, the strife nomads deal with. The advice given. I am so close to hitting the road, I some times get choked up from the dust I leave behind me. Merry Christmas to you and all of yours. Signed Fredi (not a man) Shaffer.
Hello Carol, your interview with Bob Wells hits so close to home for me. I moved into a manufactured home in 2014. Thinking it was a good move for my retirement which happened in 2019. Now I find myself thinking I made a mistake. The previous owner of our mobile home park Candlewood Estates in Mahomet Illinois was purchased by a corporate group out of California. The new owner raised our lot rent more than 50% and have made many changes that make staying here impossible for me. At 73I am very worried about my future. I find I have to sell my home if I can find a buyer and either move in with a relative or into my vehicle. I am looking to purchase a van just in case I have to do this.
It is such a sad thing that you described and it is happening to more and more folks who thought there future was secure in their mobile home park. I hope Congress gets involved in offering some protection for people in this situation. Meanwhile, I think going in on an affordable.piece of property with a few other people and dividing it up may be the way of the future. Good luck to you. I would love to hear what you ultimately decide.
Same thing happened to me. I live in Reno, could not afford a regular home and purchased a mobile home. The lot rent was $525. The owner sold to a company in CA and within 8-9 months lot rent was up to $750. I work but some of my neighbors are on a fixed income. So now I’m looking at land to purchase while I’m still working along with a van of course.
@@yourekittenme. I’m thinking of starting an online group for people exploring living on a few acres in their tiny homes. I need enough room to grow food and for my cats to have a good sized catio. I’ve got a relative whose a builder who can advise me somewhat. Reply if you’re interested and I’ll tell you where I’ve decided to post the group.
My answer is buying a piece of land is the way to go be self-sufficient if possible vanlife is the way to go and definitely alternative living I for one love this lifestyle and I'll never ever ever go back into regular housing again..
It is more infrastructure issue. Water, gas, electricity, cable, Wi-Fi, roadway, and especially fire department needs to be able to get there and has water main to work with. I am in real estate, most undeveloped land in Malibu is due to access to get water and fire trucks is way too expensive for individual owners or small tract home development.
@@33Jenesis we don’t want those things. Off grid means off all connections to that stuff. I’m living in desert for the winter. We buy our water and haul it in. Generate our own electricity. Have nomad internet and StarLink. Don’t want cable, water, sewer, etc.
Just be careful what land you buy. Just because you own it doesn't mean you can legally live in a vehicle on it. I'm surprised he didn't mention that. He's also saying to buy an hour away from everything. Someone elderly with health issues isn't going to want to be an hour away fom the nearest hospital. I agrees with having a home base regardless. You just gotta be careful where and what that home base is .
I don't agree. First of all, your going to have issues when you pile millions of folks in one area. Flooding, water issues. It only makes sense. I agree we should not all be piled in together. I also disagree with buying land now! We are headed for a recession that will make 2008 look like childs play! This is my personal opinion from following trends since 2006. WAIT! The real deals are coming. Hyperinflation is always followed by DEFLATION! just sayin.
Climate crisis is a Marxist fear tactic to herd you into poverty. 5 billion years and the only constant in climate is change. The government going Marxist will kill us way before climate. But you are right about having property. Unfortunately their goal is, You'll own nothing.
I had an unexpected serious illness that turned out to be a blessing. My sister not only got me the medical care I needed, but got me all the social services I needed. I'm now on SSDI and Medicare, and living in a subsidized apartment in a senior and/or disabled community, with weekly deliveries from the food bank, and all utilities included. Unless the United States government bureaucracy collapses I should have a roof over my head. I know we all want to be on the road -- at least I do -- but this "compromise" and "settling" that I never wanted to do is actually my salvation. As long as I'm reasonably healthy, I'll have an affordable place. BUT I'm still looking at how to get on the road (while keeping my safety net). Bob has been my inspiration for years and I did live in a Class B on the road before my health crisis. Thank you, as well, for your inspiration and knowledge! The times are changing and all we can do is create safety nets and communities.
Thank you for this!!!! I’m 53 divorced and my children are grown so I’m a empty nester I work fulltime and love ❤what I do I also have great side hustle as well…. Building my retirement BUT i do not want to purchase a house 🏡 I’ve had 2. The apartments are crazy here so I’ve been suv living since moving back to Florida! I want to purchase land and get a small RV. I want to own some ATV’s camping ⛺️ area for others!!!! I want people to connect back to nature!
I avoid even thinking about HOAs and the like. We have lived for decades in the winter in various vehicles. Volkswagen Westies, small class Cs, etc. 5 or 6 months in the SW and Mexico. During the growing season we live on 50 acres with a self built earth shelter from native materials and gardens/orchards. We have a guest cottage on our land we built from straw bales which we may move into when we are older. A younger woman wants to buy the house when she retires from her Dean job at a college in California. A couple of years from now. I’m 74 and not ready to throw any towels in.
Thank you Bob and Carol for this interview. I agree with all that you've said. I can officially retire in 3.5 years and need to figure out where I am going to go, what I'm going to do. I live in a subsidized apt in California for seniors, however, it was purchased 1.5 years ago by an investment company and our rent has been raised quite a bit 2 times already. I won't be able to afford living here for much longer. I'm also considering retiring sooner because it is so expensive to live in CA. I had to give up my old car several weeks ago because needed repairs are too costly. I'm taking public transportation now and some of my friends have been very kind to let me go to the grocery store with them. Section 8 is not easy to get and waiting lists for affordable housing are long. I'm on a couple of waiting lists that have a 10 year wait. So, your video is very helpful and land is a good idea. However there are laws that need to be researched to find out if you can live on your own property without a sticks and bricks dwelling on it. I have seen tiny house communities that have one building on the property that sits on a foundation and it is used like a clubhouse/community center. That way they can have tiny houses on the property legally. Maybe it's easier said than done. I've also read that setting up a "commune-like" community has some legalities involved. Maybe it depends on where it is located. Since I am getting on in years, I think a community/group of people would be a good idea, but I think it would be better if the community was much smaller than 100. It needs to be manageable. I am thinking of downsizing my belongings and buying a vehicle to live in but I don't know if it can be done in CA. More research is required. Those are my thoughts and limited knowledge. I will keep researching. I hope to see more videos like this one. It is really helpful.
You are wise to be doing your research now JJ as it seems clear the investment company that bought your apt building will almost certainly continue raising rents. If you have a disability or serious chronic health issue it is possible to get at the top.of the Section 8 list based on what folks who have done so have told me. But otherwise it can be over 10 years. Doing your research is the best thing to do so you make sound decisions that will work for you. Good.luck.
I have 5 acres in AR and I'm living in a old cabin on the property. I feel somewhat secure but I'm 65 and i would feel better if i could be more self sufficient and grow my own food. The trees are too tall to give me enough hours of sun. So I'm thinking of finding a couple other people to go in on a bigger piece of land. When i think of the reality of co-owning with others, i realize how hard it really is to find people who are on the same page, with the same goals and values. I do think community is important because alienation has caused a lot of issues, like a lack of support for one thing, but to find people who can agree on things... That's pretty hard. For just one example... alcohol use. Sober people don't want to deal with drunks, but if you co-own with someone who begins to drink too heavily and starts causing issues, what can you do? And that thing about having 50-100 pitch in to buy land, that's going to require a real estate lawyer to iron out some conditions... For example, should the land be split into 100 parcels? So if someone needs to move into assisted living or decides to move in with a family member, they can sell their parcel? Surveys get expensive. Not only that but you have to know what the zoning laws are. My property in the area i was in in Fl couldn't be built on unless it was 5 acres or more. So you have 40 people who split 40 acres so they each have one acre, but then find out they can't live on anything smaller than 5 acres. Bob made it sound too easy and maybe it is in AZ (but would anyone want to live in a state that is so expensive to dig a well and find water?), but in most other states you gave to really do a lot of research because rules are different county by county. Some counties you can't have an RV on the property at all, other counties you can if you get a permit, a well, septic, and power, and after doing all that, you're only allowed to be there 6 months of the year. There's a lot involved with trying to set up a community. I wish things were easier and i wish people could get along better than they do.
We are here only for one reason only! Period! That is to spread love & light. Nothing else matters! Peace and love 2 all! ✌️& ❤️ That's my belief and I'm sticking 2 it! 😃 Great interview & content Ms Glorious. Thanks for sharing!
I am finding it easier to be a nomad after listening to and watching videos by you and Bob Wells. You both offer sage advice on van life. I became a nomad after my wife passed away in June 2021. I bought my van at the end of April, a 2019 GMC Savana 2500 cargo van, and placed my Coleman camp cot and my camping/backpacking gear into it. On September 1, I pulled away with a Uhaul trailer with what possessions I had remaining (at age 76). I have not regretted my decision, not one iota, to change my lifestyle. After more than 30,000 miles, I toured the entire West Coast. After a housesitting stint(free rent) and the holidays, my next adventure is to tour the rest of the Southwest while living in many or all of New Mexico's state parks; an idea after watching a Bob Wells video. My biggest regret is selling two quarter acre lots in Pagosa Springs, Colorado, years before my nomad decision. Great interview, Carol.
Your description summarizes things well. I’ve been watching Bob’s stuff since 2018. Others also contribute as well. The time has come for action. I anticipate the formation of groups who’ll create “neighborhoods” and the two of you have shown how. Procrastination will be our undoing. Time to plan, time for real goals. You nailed it referring to the current banking issues. One of these days something like that or the climate issue will push us over the edge. Transportation to and from remote properties will also be an issue. I suspect we’ll need to create a society within this society and resources dedicated to the lifestyle. Who else can we depend on?
You nailed it Greg. The time has come to do something now. We are getting warning signs all around that things are not going to get better. Those who prepare now will be in so much better shape than those who wait for everything to be "just right" before making a move. This situation with the banks should have been the final straw that motivated everyone to stop being complacent.
Yes, indeed I would love to Pursue a video van tour and a word about owning cheap land. Bob Wells has been an inspiration for an untold amount of people me being the least of these. I’m in the South Bay section of Los Angeles County. Bob knows about Fiberine. Fiberine is in my backyard
I was team Fiberine, but recently met someone in Quartzsite who had a top added by them. She showed me the shoddy workmanship and told me she had a very difficult time working with them. So, at present I am not recommending them based on what I saw in her vehicle.
20- or 40-ft high cube shipping containers are also an option to consider for your remote property. They will weather wind, rain & fires. With the right planning, they'll be able to be secured if you do decide to travel. If you decide to finish the interior, you can have doors, windows & skytubes installed, then build our the interiors.
Too many places have restrictions on the land. I asked my sister in law if I could camp at her place for a few days when I go to PA in June n she told me they can’t even let the grandkids put up a tent in their huge yard. I am blessed in TX to own 6 acres n not have a lot of codes or restrictions. I can’t imagine living anywhere someone can tell me what to do on my own land. 🚐👍🏻❤️🇺🇸🐾🔥🏕️☀️☕️
This situation is happening in Canada as well. Property is going up in price. But having a home base is a smart idea. But our federal gov is buying it all out as they bring more people in. Its getting scary.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 it is. Then they complain about so many people living in vehicles and/or on the streets, lol. But Bob is right, the quicker you buy in now, the better. Depending on the country.
I like Bob; he's done a lot of good for the community. However, I think he sometimes gives advice without doing enough research. On one of his videos about buying land in Arizona, he gave some incorrect information. He said buying raw acreage in Arizona *automatically* qualifies you for Arizona residency. From what I was told, it does not. One off-gridder living on raw land in Arizona told me that in order to get Arizona residency, he had to sign a legal affidavit stating he lived on his acreage fulltime. A small detail that could be a big detail for those who want permanent residency but do not intend to live on their acreage fulltime. I seriously doubt any state will give you residency just by buying raw acreage, so make sure you check with the state before buying.
I agree that it is absolutely necessary to do your due diligence any time you buy land to make sure what the rules are about not only the zoning for potential future use but also for residency requirements.
My Pops has had a place in SW Florida for 15 years.... The lot rent has went from 340 a month to 760 a month.... Power bill from 30 a month to over 80 a month... Insurance????? Can't afford it anymore it's over 6000 for a 50 year old mobile home...
I am really looking forward to seeing this! We have what is a tiny home that is plumbed, but the bathroom is not 100% complete and is not furnished. But the walls are drywalled and painted and there is linoleum flooring, etc. It has electricity and a small greenhouse outside the door. It was my apothecary when I was able to work as an herbalist. There is an old block home on the property that essentially is storage and would need an incredible amount of work to be usable, but next to that is what I would assume is approximately a field that is an acre surrounded by trees. I've often said it would be a great place to build tiny homes or to boondock, but as of now, my husband isn't quite in agreement with me. There is a free-flowing well that is spring-fed at the end of our road, and as someone who grew up camping in a minimalist fashion, I think it would be ideal. I know we are allowed a tiny home here...but are we allowed multiple tiny homes or campers that are boondocking? That I don't know. Definitely an interesting topic!
What you are describing sounds simply amazing. Land plus a water source. Are there any similiar properties for sale in your area? Would you mind emailing me the area at Gloriouslifeonwheels@gmail.com
I’m so glad you guys gals posted this. I’m no where near retirement but after my only child outgrew the nest, I sold my first and only home because I knew if I continued my lifestyle (CA) I would be a burden on my son one day. So nomad since 2021 . Don’t regret my decision but the road gets lonely. I do miss being part of a community. ( of course a community that respects everyone’s alone time) ❤ If you decide to start the tiny home discussion. I know a ton about them. Wait listed for Boxable - since 2019. Aka before tiny homes were cool 😎
I think van life or living in a home can both be lonely if you aren't part of a community. If I might suggest, you may want to consider attending some van meetups to connect with other like minded folks. You can go onto the internet and look up van meetups to get a list. We Are The Russos puts out a great list. Although they left out one of my favorites, Lolapalooza, in Texas in late October. Also, you might check with the Escapees group for their meetups or Home On Wheels Alliance, H.O.W.A.virtual coffee chats to meet people. If you have any other questions you can email me at Gloriouslifeonwheels@gmail.com
Call me crazy, but I am optimistic that things regarding retirement/affordability for life's necessities are about to change, where this will not be as much of a worry, if a worry at all. One has to admit that the system is broken. We are on the cusp of creating a new one, are we ready? What do we want in this new world?
I'm Arizona, born and have been looking at options to buy property back at the Mothership. If your willing to share information on properties with me, I would appreciate it
I am looking for land with water and a septic. I'm open to investing with anyone who is interested. Bob, Carol are you able to assist me with this or point me in the right direction?
I agree, there will be a day when we can't drive rather due to old age or bad health, and we must think ahead. I think it would be wise for several like minded nomads to come together and buy a small piece of land to park their Vans or RV's close to hospital and Pharmacy. And that doesn't mean you have to stay there, you could still come and go as you please, It would just be a homebase when you needed it.
Having a refuge, even a small acreage provides such a sense of security. Just be sure to research so you buy land that allows you to have your rig on your property long term. Even building a small cabin may very well require permitting and inspection.
Thanks for doing this video and being so frank about the plight of affordable housing. I've been traveling for the past eight months around the US and been shocked to see how many people are living full-time in RV parks because they can't afford rent, let alone a mortgage. When one has the opportunity to open their eyes, it's quite shocking to see how many campgrounds have become full-time RV/Trailer parks.
I have been doing my research and have seen the same. I've also noticed that many RV parks that I've been following have raised their prices within a short period of time which means RV parks will not be affordable soon. Therefore it seems that, at least right now, that having your own land may be best. However, as was mentioned in another comment, that some places do not allow you to camp or park and live in an RV on your own land. Incredibly unbelievable.
When I first became involved in van life I also was.shocked to see how.many people were living fulltime in cars, vans, and rvs., not.out of choice but kut of necessity. So.many were older women.
@@jjbear5258I have been looking at rv/tiny home/mobile home gated communities. Many have HOAs which can be a plus but a concern is if something happens with the economy or value of the dollar, you can lose the land you paid for by not paying your HOA dues. I wish you could not lose your property by back taxes or HOA dues.
Won't there be squatters who will grab the little piece of land you bought, if you don't seem to be around there. Or even if you are? Do you fence in the land and put signs telling people not to trespass? Doesn't this kind of isolation invite mean characters who might want to steal the little that you may have, or worse?
I think Meth heads still wander around out on the backroads..... but with gas being a higher price it might be helping keeping the meth heads in check.
My dreams are VERY MUCH complete!, the two wisest ppl in my opinion on this matter & and a GREAT meet up interview between the two! I'm in total agreement w/the both! More so U Ms Carol for being involved to this point in such a much shorter time spand than Bob Wells, of course not balancing it at all to his time experience & expertise on this subject! Allow me to stop for now, cause I can go on & on w/my appreciation to the both of you for all that y'all have accomplished, done for others, & so forth! Thanks to the both!🤗...
I owned a mobile home park in Durango, CO. A corp from CA came in and wanted to buy. Their game plan was to purchase and jack up the rents. The residents there found a non-profit agency to assist them with purchasing the property and I sold it to them...win win for everyone except the California corporation.
Why did you sell the RV Park? Just asking. You had a community like is being discussed on this video, but you sold it. Oh well.
@@dalepxp8963 I had owned the property for 15 years. It was a 3.5 hour drive over mountains to get to it and finding a property management company to handle it to my specifications was virtually impossible.
I saw the news story. It was nothing but a bunch of illegals living there. Disgusting
There needs to be a nationwide movement to stop this. mobile and van living needs to be protected. It’s the last line of defense against what’s happening now!
You did the decent thing. Good on you.
I took your advice Bob and bought 6 acres of cheap land in an
" off-grid community" in Arizona! No HOA!
It"s called "Bridge Canyon Country Estates". Grow your own food. Water catchment allowed! Large trees on properties for shade! They have a club house ( no dues) where you can meet like-minded off-grid people for helpful ideas!
Nearby attractions: Historic Old Route 66 and the Grand Canyon!
Wow. Congratulations. That sounds amazing. 👏
Big thanks to Bob Wells for getting me organized & up to speed on everything I needed as a senior female to survive the disaster of Covid and divorce. I already gathered all of this information after watching the Nomadland movie and looking Bob Wells up. I realized I wasn’t a good candidate for nomad, but I bought a travel trailer and truck anyway just in case that was my only option. Then I did a deep dive into Zillow, and just waited and waited until the perfect opportunity presented itself for buying land. I am now a tiny homesteader in a national forest, living in a vintage hunting cabin on half an acre with my own water well. I have my travel trailer and truck as a back up system so I can go nomad if I need to. The money I saved, listening to Bob Wells got me through the last two years to get a an income going. And all my pets thank him because they were headed to the shelter when my life got turned upside down by Covid and a crazy husband after 20 years of marriage. Just watching him teach old gals like me how to survive and make it gave me the confidence I needed when I thought all was lost. So shout out to Bob! You just keep doing what you’re doing, honey! 💋😘
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You are awesome! Congrats on turning lemons into lemonade!
I am 64 solo van lifer and I want to get some land in Missouri
I have no idea how to use Zillow to find the type of land I'm looking for
How do I do it
@carolmaplesden916 I use zillow. I learned by logging on to the site & clicking around on it. I suggest you don't get in a hurry & educate yourself. UA-cam has imfo. On buying rural land. Use education and caution.
I LOVE THIS, I too am PREPARING, it's essential in my situation, and the deep sadness I fear for our 🌎. Micro living, on a piece of land. Your all set. Will u be my mentor🙃😁, YOU & Bob give me hope
Springfield, MO has a place where people can park their tiny homes or RVs and live fairly in expensively in a little community setting. Need LOTS more like that. Zoning rules need to be changed to allow alternative housing.
I live 2 hours from Springfield where is this located as I’m getting a travel trailer and am Very interested in where & how much??
I would like to know as well. I would rather live in close proximity to others in a small community rather than alone in the desert. BTW, I am 66 with zero family, no kids, grands, or even nieces or nephews. I have multiple chronic but not incapacitating illnesses so I must be close to decent medical care, close enough that once I can’t drive someone can drive me or I can get medical transport to take me.
I think this is it. Don’t remember where I heard about it. I have bought property east of there to put an RV on. www.youtube.com/@sgfmomhp2836/featured
@@6248cjl the desert thing doesn't appeal to me either. I'm full time in an RV park in OR. I have an 18 ft travel trailer and have been here for four years. Like you I have health issues so I stay close to my doctors
Been needing this for atleast 30 years for 55 and older. That are safe and drug free people.
Everyone needs to be aware that local ordinances may prohibit camping on your own land for extended periods. Be sure to check.
Great idea video. List things look for when searching for property
Look for unrestricted land! It is still available.
My friend bought land about 30 miles out of Flagstaff in the middle of nowhere, then find out the county only allowed camping on your own land 90 days a year. If he wants to stay longer he must do improvements, like putting in electricity.
It is critical to check out the zoning for any property purchased!
@@gingermcintosh6545 What a disappointment that must have been. You must check these things.out in advance.
Here in South Africa we say “Own the roof above you” but I think Carol’s “Own the ground beneath you” is even better.
So good to see this video of two good friends talk about the ageing population in a caring way that comforts me and others so much. I bought an old house in a small sleepy town 10 yrs back that i could afford as i knew i needed a secure home to recover from brain surgeries. I moved away from friends and family which was risky but it has paid off and i have had time to heal without the worry of rent or mortgage payments. The townfolk were kind and supportive and i thank God i was lead to do this. Sometimes we do have to make that leap of faith even though it can mean big sacrifices with it. I have no regrets as a 73 yr elder and have learnt to be strong and to trust in Gods goodness and faithfulness. Its amazing what he will do when we are willing to step out and trust him. ❤
You took a risk and made a very wise decision and God has provided as he always does. So happy to hear that things worked out for you. It is hard to go outside of our comfort zone. But so often that is where our future blessings are if we can only have the faith to act.
This is why I love the nomad community so much because we are looking for answers and acting upon them. I love what Bob is doing so much. During the pandemic I came across his channel and it was like a breath of fresh air. He really gave me hope to change my mindset and figure out a better way to live and thrive. Love love our community. Thank you for doing this video.
I bought land . I can put a tent on and live . No one can run me off .
I started with a fithwheel and now have a beautiful modern cabin 520 sqft offgrid . So blessed
Where did you buy land where you're allowed to live like that? Government entities frown on independence...
@@fiendishthingy1630 I'm not telling.
You might be a fed
@@denisestarr2314 - HA!!!!!! I have been wanting to buy land near Woodburn, OR for a few years (I live in southern CA) so I can spend a week on it in my Roadtrek class B. I'm "old" and a semi-retired Realtor, not a fed or any government connection. I want to be able to vacation on a piece of private land if I want to. Heck, I also have several tents that I want to use as I prefer. And I'd like to have a group of friends join me if I so desire. So I was asking for those reasons. ** If anyone knows of any acreage where I can do that, please let me know!!! **
I purchased my land so I can have a home base after living in my car for 18 months, knowing at my age apartment living in a city is to high. I got 3.55, saved and paid cash.. best decision ever..
I got a tiny home cabin in the woods..Give Bob my information…love to share my story
You are so smart to have done that!!
Would you mind me asking when, where and how much you paid for 3.55 acres. I want 5 acres preferably in Georgia. I really want Florida, but the insurance rates scare me. However, I did hear that there's no law that states you have to have home owners insurance if your house is paid off.
@@latonyalee7821 I’m in Georgia too still looking
@@latonyalee7821 I have owned my home for 10 years and never had insurance on it.
Zoning laws is the key. One can buy land and then discover the County will not allow them to stay on it.
Another huge issue is water. A lot of land is cheap because there is no water available. Will you have to have it delivered? Will someone even offer the service, and at what cost.
Cheap land can cost you dearly in the long run. It is cheap because it is not desirable. find out why before you buy. Maybe roads are impassable during winter, maybe no stores for hundreds of miles, maybe a hog farm is near and when the wind changes directions it is nasty. Maybe an airport or something else makes noise. Maybe no medical services, no law enforcement if help is needed. So many things can be a problem .
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Considering the medical system has been weaponized into a genocide system that's a good thing.
I found a gem of a piece 2 years ago. When I had the title search done. A mineing company had bought the mineral rights 30 years earlier. The company was no longer mineing but they wanted to keep the rights. I could have lived on the land and did any developing I wanted. But at anytime the mine company could escavated, said they probably never would. But I was not willing to invest money into something that could be potentially useless.
last time i looked, water falls out of the sky
He's one of the most intelligent people I've come across in many years! Undoubtely one of my favorite people, and I've never even met the guy! You can just tell he is such a well-read man with so much love and respect for other people in his heart!
Bob really has a bountiful amount of knowledge.in so many areas and he puts it to good use for the benefit of others.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 😂
Come on out to Quartzsite in January and meet him.
Yes Bob is definitely one of my favorite people too and I never met him either. Lol
My son would totally agree with Bob. He told me recently to buy something that no one can take away from me.
Just make sure there’s no restrictions on your land because there are so many hidden issues these days. Everybody is so hateful and out to make things as hard as possible for struggling seniors. You have to check the neighborhood restrictions, then you check municipal restrictions for the town and then you check restrictions for the county and finally your restrictions for the state. All of them. You can’t just look at one of those and say that’s all there is to it. A lot of the restrictions conflict with each other and the one that wins out is the most local one to you. So it doesn’t matter if the state allows something. If your neighborhood has a charter that doesn’t allow XYZ… Then you’re not allowed to do it, no matter what the state law says. The first thing everybody needs to do is file for homestead status. This year I got a $467 refund on my taxes which means I paid almost nothing. Then Texas just passed property tax laws. That puts me way under the limit so I won’t have to pay any taxes on my Homestead for the foreseeable future. By the time I owe taxes that I would not be able to pay because I live very near a lake that is probably going to get developed one day… I will be able to sell this piece of land for 5-10 times what I paid. Right now in the housing crisis and after I cleaned up the tiny home on my land and did a little bit of re-decorating and so forth… on a shoestring budget… I can turn this place over and get double or even triple what I paid for it in a heartbeat. If I wanted to, I probably can hold out and get even more. Then I just hook up my trailer to my truck and go nomad and find another land deal and flip it too. But right now I’m enjoying the idea of staying here for as long as possible because I’m nice and comfortable. As long as it stays that way, that’s what I’m doing. I have Bob Wells to thank for bringing me up to speed on all this stuff and give me the idea to do what I’ve done which has avoided homelessness, given me an income, given me a place I could live, even if everything dried up and I had to go off grid, and giving me a back up plan to go nomad if these crazy people come at me and make living here impossible because of all the crazy restrictions everybody’s inventing to attack poor people and seniors. Good luck and just make sure your land has no restrictions that you can’t live with.
you need to check county restrictions, they all have rules you must follow....
A marxist government will always take away what you have...even land.
@@chelseacraft4669 and do NOT buy anything near water ... streams rivers etc and look for designated wet lands... permitting is impossible local and then also have to go through COE !!! Don't even look at that land! Plus... don't believe anything the realtor says... go to the county and city offices and see paperwork yourself, rules etc. Septic tank drain fields often require more land than you think. A power pole might only be for agriculture..so you have to have something living/growing to pull from the power even for your residence... have any well checked for viability... yea fresh water well might be tainted and unusable. Do not trust anyone.
You and Bob are my two go- to people on van life/alternative living. Thank you for all you do. You make a true difference in this world.
Thanknyoubfor saying that Suzanne. We are both really trying to provide valuable information to help people make informed decisions.
I think exploring that community living aspect would be great.
50 or 100 tiny homes/vehicles on 40 acres could lead to a great life.
If everyone was putting in say $100 per month, infrastructure on the property could be built up fairly rapidly over just a few years. IE. Ablutions/laundry, Gardens/green house farming , Community rooms/clubhouse, solar and wind power generation....communal water catchment projects.
It'll take a few years but could be very rewarding :)
I applied for Section 8 housing and was on a waiting list for a year and applied for about 10 apartments that take Section 8 and also have income based housing. I now have an apartment, a dog, a car, in a 40 unit senior housing with all units ground level. I am living on social security and pay $281 a month rent and Section 8 pays $274. This is a Tax Credit complex. You have to do your research. You don't want to live in a multi-age complex ( kids, noise, drinking, drugs, problems) Don't wait, get active now. You can always say no, if and when you are offered a place. This is an option, especially if you are not so able bodied anymore and need grocery and prescription deliveries, rides to medical appointments, and home aides coming in ( health, PT, cleaning etc...). I'm in Western NC.
Good advice.
Getting prepared as soon as you can and doing your research can make such a difference.
How long did that process take?
Wow your luvky some waiting lists are 7 hears.
Where are you?
Chickens, gardens, crafts, etcetera. Loneliness is killing many older people. We need connections and projects. And being able to help others.
Hi from Danmark 🇩🇰 🌏🌱🌳🐝🌞🌈❤️
Yes a good idea 👍loneliness is not good for the health or soul everyone needs to be held .🌈❤️🌞
@@sussijensen6977 So true. Even babies fail to thrive when they are not held
I believe being connected to others helps to give our lives meaning.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 ❤️👍🤗
Yep
Lots of small forclosed homes or cheap used mobile homes for sale on property that already have utilities on it, that full-time RVers can use as a base! And storage!
Solves the zoning problem! 😊
Wow...I,m teary eyed..Bob giving you a Big endoresment..A Great interview... of course...I agree with both of you....as I,a nomad, approaching,75.... am buying a tiny home....in a Safe and Loving community....where we can help each other....Kudos to you both for loving and caring about us Nomads❤😊
Thank you my dear friend. I am so proud of you making this move for your future❤
Bob is the President of this lifestyle. We might not vote, but naturally we look to a leader to steer us in the right direction
Yep😊
My job used to include Malibu CA. There’s a lot of land but no taker. First of all people can’t live in RV on their own land. 2nd, it is very expensive to bring water main and roadway for fire trucks. When Fire Department can’t sign off, no development or living on land you own. Dealing with zoning and infrastructure issues is frustrating, time consuming, and often expensive. Perhaps remote land you may move a trailer or small home there without too many red tapes. But you run into delivery, medical care, and daily necessity issues in old age.
When looking for small home communities, make sure to pay attention to location and supporting communities and businesses. Being too remote will isolating seniors when driving is not possible.
My old business partner had a home in Malibu. He added a bedroom to the house, the building permit was $40,000, just for the permit.
Bob is a pioneer on this topic. He has done a lot for the nomad community. I think you have to have an exit plan as you get older. Owning the ground under you is the only way to have some security. I live in New England. No way would this lifestyle be supported here. Arizona seems to be the state of choice for most. Spend winters in the southern part of the state and summers in the northern part. Thank you for this video. I love your channel, also!
Absolutely. I agree that owning the ground under you is the only way to go for as much stability as is possible these days.
Are you aware of the border issues down in S. Arizona, ( border).?
I would hate to see you travel there unprepared.
Hey don't say that about New England. I and born and raised in NE and bought raw land and own it outright. I built my own place. You can snowbird down to Florida from New England if you hate the winter.
Unless the property taxes push you out.
You both have amazing hearts of love! Thank you for all you do!
Soo positive for nomadic communities and like Bob said to have neighbors that watch out for one another true community ❤❤
I think a lot like you . Looking for 2 pieces of land with fishing . Climate change is a consideration for my future inheritors. I can’t handle extreme heat . 1 tiny home and a camper then eventually a small place at both .
Now that would be simply divine being able to open your door and go fishing. If you find that at an affordable price let me know!!
👍This is such a fantastic and informative interview! I learned things that I had no idea about or that are happening. Thanks to the both of you for taking the time to have and share this conversation! ❤
I always leave a conversation with Bob Wells knowing more than before.we met!
After renting for 40 years in the San Francisco Bay Area my wife and I purchased a 1.5 acre parcel of "raw" land near Williams Az. in 2016. We've been working on it for 7 years now. We are nearing completion of our "Mountain lodge style Timber Frame cabin" made with our own hands from lumber I milled myself. It was always my dream to build our home with my own hands. Couldn't do what I'm doing in California. We are still working and living in Half Moon Bay , Ca. but we are getting closer to rent-free living and debt-free. Vehicles are paid for , no CC debt and the property taxes in Williams are only $350/ year. If you dream about something long enough and work towards it (no matter how slow) then before you realize it you are living the life that you had only dreamed about.
"Carol has a heart of love" Bob Wells. That is the most correct statement I have heard in a very long time. ❤
Thank you so much Donna. Inboxes I can live up to that.
Carol and Bob you are both awsome and amazing humans..I admire you both! 75 and widowed my road life is going to begin in May and all because I started watching Bob in 2018 when my hubby was still here and Carol started with you in 2021. God Bless you both and Thank you from bottom of my heart
May God bless you as you head out. I hope we meet down the road one of these days.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 Me to and Thank You
Love this interview and agree with Bob. Having a piece of land doesn't mean you still can't enjoy vanlife. When it it gets to be a bit much, you will always have a safe place to land. Also, you have chosen wisely to follow Carol as she truly does have a " Heart of Gold". 😊
I have been watching the nomads for a minute now. I've been under a struggle but I am succeeding. Pray for me yall.
I prared for you as soon as I read your comment Sharon.
Keep the faith. It will all work out.
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Blessings sent 🙏
Bob Welch already has his own piece of land he bought a nice piece of land already.. he's a smart man because you called me back to your van forever so having a base or a piece of land is awesome even put tiny houses on with retirees can live cheap and simple and have freedom..
I’m Bob’s neighbor in N. Arizona. I’m taking it a step further:soon I’ll buy land down in the desert-CHEAP!!
Where are you buying and are you concerned about water?
Aw love this! My two favorite UA-camrs talking about such an important topic. I’ve been pricing land too as I want the security it gives me as well as a place to stay for a while between travels. Thanks for sharing Carol and Bob!
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Owning a house seems to be more of a trap these days. I sold everything and gave the rest away. Been full time now 2.5 years. I honestly don’t regret it. Only around Christmas I miss my home I sold.
I hear you. The expense alone just of upkeep will break you. Even if the house is paid for,homeowners insurance, Property taxes, fixing breakdowns,roof repairs.....right now, I have to have my entire roof replaced...and that's just the damned roof...much more needs to be done as well....
@@beautifuldreamer3991 I went through this when my house was on the market. It sold 4 times then they all fell through! A total of 4 inspections!!!! Every inspection cost me more money! About 6,000 all together. I seriously doubt I ever buy another house. I sure didn’t make a bunch of money. I like my life NOW which is a ton simpler!! Good luck Beautiful Dreamer. Hope everything works out for you! And you know what I tell myself when I feel down? “Jesus was a nomad” and so am I. ❤️❤️❤️
@Road Grace Wow I am
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@@beautifuldreamer3991 you can get a decent price for a full roof replacement if you ask, negotiate and shop around. I live in an area of suburban NYC where everything is expensive. I was able to get a complete rip out and replacement roof for 12k. Most other roofers were asking no less than 17k and as high as 25k. They did an okay job for the money, destroyed my gardens, but the job is done!
@@beautifuldreamer3991 yup, I’m in the same situation. I had a new roof put on a few yrs ago and last year a new furnace . This summer a huge tree needs taken down. Did a few other upkeeps and it’s never ending. I still have to work to supplement my retirement. It’s crazy!
Great interview Carol. I am sending this video message around to friends because it does need to be heard. So glad you and Bob were able to do this together.🥰👍👏
It is critical that people take this seriously and act now.
I have a question Bob. If we aren’t going to have water what good will buying land be? Maybe I’m not understanding but if you buy a piece of property to park on don’t you need to bring in water and electricity and sewage? Those are pricy utilities to add to land. My kids want to buy a big piece of property and have a family commune on it. Sounds wonderful to this grandma 😊
We have always told our subscribers that if you can afford it get a home base somewhere. You never know when you may become sick or disabled. As we especially know as both Derec & I become disabled when it definitely wasn't in our plans. Both ended up on disability. Everyone should be planning & saving for when they become elderly or for emergencies such as illness or injury.
You just never know what the future holds. Best to be prepared. The alternative is not a good one!
Exactly! Too many just living for today with no back up plan or plans for the future
Amen
Its better to LEARN Healing Arts and Wellness care so one KNOWS how to take care of themselves
I bought a small 70 x 100 ft lot with public water, electric, internet, and an existing existing septic. It is in a small village, but there is no zoning, restrictions, or permits. its 12 miles to Wally World and amenities, 25 miles to regional hospital. I paid $1200 cash. This is just to illitrate & encourage others to keep looking, cheap places are out there. S. Missouri & N Arkansas have lots of cheap places. Lots of lakes & rivers, deer, turkey, etc. Cold half the year and hot the other half. Many owner finance too. Great advice Bob!
Where Is This Located At
I bought 2ac as a home base. It had a mobile home there for 6 years and the owner sold that. So it already had a well and septic only 6 years old.
I had a metal carport installed with a power pole.
I would like to see a video or list of land areas where zoning allows RVs, tiny homes, mobile homes, manufactured homes, etc.
We have talked about doing that. It is going to take some time to do the proper research. But, Apache countybin Arizona appears to be less restrictive than many.
Be still my heart~~~The best interviewers on you tube (or any medium for that matter) doing a vlog together! Thank you both for sharing your wisdom. Your generous and loving hearts help so many enjoy life with dignity no matter their circumstances.
Thank you Cathy. We certainly are trying to share information that will help people live life abundantly and with dignity.
Bob, so many municipalities prohibit RVers/van dwellers living on their own land. I would love to hear your opinion on what counties/municipalities are friendly to the lifestyle. Thanks! FJ
Bob and I just talked about that today when we met and are planning on doing something in the future to provide some information on that very topic. From what Bob amd I both have heard Apache county in Arizona appears to have fewer restrictions than most. However, I do know that even there if you are going to add electricity you must have a septic tank first.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 thanks. Looking forward to that video and responses here from your viewers.
I live in South Georgia on the Florida border in a rural county. I was able to purchase less than an acre of land and had the improvements of water sewer and electric installed. I then had a metal camper Port installed and put my 8 by 10 ft camper under the port. I use this as my home base when I'm not traveling. I've owned it since 2017. I did my due diligence before I bought the property to see if I could live in my camper on the property full-time. The county said they had no ordinances against that. I would have preferred to live in Florida but every county I checked in Florida does that allow you to live in your camper full-time unless you are located in an RV park. I know several people in Florida who live on their own land full time in their RV. They have done it for years but I checked with the county that they're located in and since it is illegal, I just bought across the boarder in GA where they allow it. My county property is only two miles from the city. That proximity is going to become important to me as I get older. Remember owning land means paying taxes. In the 6 years that I've owned the land the taxes have increased by $400 per year. Currently equates to $33 a month. Also pay water, sewage, electric bills. All things I wanted to be comfortable in old age. Humidity in this part of Georgia is extremely high and I don't know how anyone can live without AC during certain months. I am expecting another tax increase because the tax assessor came by my property 2 months. I'm just trying to keep it real with you guys. Best wishes.
There are fewer pieces of land where you can legally stay in any kind of vehicle, the zoning is out of control and it can change on you while you are living there! Worst to me though is most land that is inexpensive and you can do a tiny house or RV has no water. So if things start falling apart you will not be able to stay with no water. If fuel become unavailable and those who deliver can't and you have no fuel to go get it yourself, you're screwed. Water is life, it is the most important element for any long-term scenario.
Never buy land that does not have working well or private water source.
WHAT ABOUT WATER?
I was planning to buy land in central Arizona to establish a tiny home community. And then I heard the program on public radio. About the devastating effects of running out of water. There were people who put everything they had into building their dream home in Arizona. And then their well ran dry. Farmers both legal and illegal (growing marijuana), dairy farmers, and who knows what else will compete for your water? Especially when Phoenix runs dry?
So Bob - what's a realistic way to think about water when you're buying land?
Research. If you have water delivered, you will be more careful about use. The grey water can be used in a garden.
Many College Towns have Student Housing that is 4 Students sharing a 4 Bed 4 Bath Apt. The key is, each one is only responsible for 1/4 of the lease and damage to your room and bathroom etc. To my knowledge they do not offer this to any other demographic. I think this type of housing is the answer for Seniors. You get your own space, plus shared space, and you are not liable if your room mates do not pay the rent. Even if you are okay with taking on the liability of all the rent, traditional room mate situation also requires each person on the lease qualify for the entire lease amount which if you could afford that much, you would not need a room mate.
Many seniors are indeed opting to share housing.
Once saw a story where some people worked together to build tiny cabins and share one kitchen and laundry building to save money. That could work as well.
Hi Carol and hello Bob. Thank you both for this interview. I have several comments. One mistake builders are making Is putting concrete foundations on filled in drainage land. Our wet lands are for overflow of water, not homesites. City streets being overflowed is the result of water not having space to permeate.😢. I am sure you told Bob about Randy's Incredibox and his off grid proposed community in Crystal NV. The solar power ITH is making available to nomads is futuristic. I wonder if Bob and/or Homes On Wheels has made progress on purchasing property across the US and especially the East for nomad parking. I am so glad you met him and was able to share ideas. ❤️
I am glad Bob and I were able to do this also. I can't speak for BOWA but last I heard they had not given up on finding land.
I just love the Incred-I-box. That’s my goal. I can’t move to NV. Lived in Vegas 5 years. Health care not good enough for my needs. I’m looking at Why, AZ or Caballo Loco, both close enough to Tucson and the Univ of AZ and their heart program.
Bob is right. You need to own the land and you need to have a way to be mobile so you can leave if you need to be living somewhere else. It’s hard to know where the best place is with water shortages in some places but there are answers out there. Thank you being a media source for those answers. 💕
Water is a critical factor whereever you choose. I am keeping my fingers crossed that I can find a place with a functioning well for my GLOW Haven.
I live in Arizona and will soon be a nomad. I would like to buy land as you say…but how do you get around the laws of Arizona that state you can not live on land in your RV?
@@debracochran1826 I think you have to build a structure or home with water power and septic tank for sewage
You can get temporary power with a building permit so you might be able to live in a Camper while you build if it's on grid
@@debracochran1826 You have to find deedless and unincorporated land. You have to get in writing that you can do anything on that land, from farming to living in a trailer to having solar. I'm finding a lot of land but many places have deeds and rules to abide by. it's a challenge, but I think I will contact a lawyer and find out everything I need to know in the state I wish to purchase land, before i sign on the dotted line. Thankfully I can buy several acres and when I do, I will start my own little gathering place.
I have 300 acres in eastern Kentucky. A beautiful pond running creek a lot of walking trails or drive on them I like what she’s talking about so what can I do?
I'm not sure exactly what you would want to do. Whatever you want your first stop would probably be your local city or county planning department to find out what is allowed. I met someone who bought property in Kentucky to put up a tiny house and there are some tight restrictions where she lives on size and construction. It has to meet regular construction standards. Do you want to have a tiny house community or a quasi rv park or somewhere that people can park. How long are people allowed to live in rvs on the property, what is the zoning, etc. From your description the property sounds beautiful. If you want to communicate more you can reach me at
Gloriouslifeonwheels@gmail.com
A much needed video with sound recommendations. And it's true about opening up our hearts to one another, to care about another human being. Thank you.
great video
taxes would be the only expense for land that could be what would cause one to lose land if government keeps going as it has.
Water is the big issue....no water....no good.also....in Arizona, even if you drill for water,they not only have to go very deep,but no guarantee of hitting water and then if you did, no guarantee the water may be potable..it may be too saline. I due a due diligence on a property in AZ, and I discussed it with a water driller and he was very honest with me and he's the one that told me that. He also informed me that water hauling is done,but again,what happens when the water runs out?
There's an entire city in AZ which has to have water trucked in. 😖
Agree. I've considered moving to AZ but think it's irresponsible because of the water issues.
Yeah when you drive on the 303 around Phoenix we cringe as we see thousands of houses being built in jazzy named subdivisions ALL OVER. Also driving through Las Vegas last xmas we saw the same on the sides of a couple of the freeways. New houses by the thousands all over. I kept saying over and over "WOW where is all the water coming from"???? Tucson is the same. Maybe up in Northern AZ its a tiny bit better. I know many UA-camrs with property up there do the "Truck water in" routine.
Simply having land or property doesn't mean much if you don't have water or utilities. Lots of people are building in the desert SW but where is all the water going to come from? Sure we got plenty of snowfall and rain recently but if one believes that climate change is going to be a disaster, you might want to rethink living out west.
Here's the problem in my local area, property taxes keep going up and retirees on a fixed income are struggling because our local government keeps spending money like crazy. My wife and I are paying $6,000 a year on property taxes while our neighbor next door with a big house is paying $11,000 a year for the same size lot. There's financial incentive to not make any improvements because your taxes will just go up. We're doing ok but think about the retirees that lived in their house their whole lifes and now might lose their home if they can't pay that property tax.
Ridiculous
Dang whats your "local Area"? are you in Cal
@@anybodyoutthere3208 Twin Cities Minneapolis/St Paul area. Getting so expensive to live here.
I live in Florida and completely agree with this scenario. I am retired and my house is paid for, but the insurance is getting so expensive I'm seriously thinking of selling and hitting the road.
Insurance companies have just gone wild with rates. I would, however, want a piece of land even a small one that I could count on going to if need be.
Some of the BEST advice out there...land is finite...My wife and I have a small parcel that over the years, 15 to be exact..lol..., and in those years we have piece-by-piece built a small off grid tiny home/cabin (350 sq ft) out of pocket. We actually could live in if needed...we always say it is a place we can move if needed and suggest like this videos also says...BUY SOME LAND!!! and plan for something like that!..You wont regret it!
Perfect timing. From Bobs video about purchasing land i began a search. A man purchased a parcel in San Bernardino 1.5 acres. So the parcel next to him was also purchased. The new neighbor put up a fence encroaching on the man’s land and uses his land to enter his land. The lawyer on the radio said if you are not living on your new land full time, you will need to get another survey and then warn your neighbor and if necessary tear down his fence. So the man says what if we have a all out bad relationship and there is nothing but fighting. What then. This was my fear after Bobs video. This is happening to many who are purchasing affordable parcels. Police won’t get involved because it’s civil. some people bought their land, came back 6 months later and someone had squatted on his land. Now he has had to hire a lawyer and each survey shows something different. The man has not been able to get this guy off his new land. He out up a fence and gate and at 75 is not happy and does not know what to do. I wish Bob would talk about this because it’s more the norm.
That is an unfortunate situation. We are.not attorneys so this is not legal advice, simply my opinion. I, Carol, would put up "no tresspassing" signs and them haven he neigjbor tresspassed if they came onto my property with out permission. But it unfortunately needs the guidance from law officials and probably an attorney too.
This is another reason to be part of a group buying land.
@Glorious Life on Wheels. very true Carol. We owned land that said “ No trespassing” when it was trespassed the police said “ this is a civil matter” sue them in civil court. Also we lived in an area where police were within 25 min. Out in the desert there are no police. Bottom line Police do not do anything about land trespassed only businesses. I follow a couple on you tube where a neighbor put up a fence on his land. They each have had it surveyed 4 times each. It’s been almost 2 years and they can’t get the fence down. They are now arch enemies. Who wants to live like that. Isn’t that the whole reason we become nomads? Generally people have no idea what truly goes on with buying land. The only way to keep it private is to never leave it. That’s why people had rifles in the old days to protect their land.
@Lily Gazou. so Lily what do you do the first time one of your group decides they want to burn rubber tires, have a late party, adopt 4 barking dogs, shall I go on. Do you not remember reading about the old days when neighborhoods were being formed? Once you buy land “ together” you are stuck. Who is going to buy you out if it doesn’t work out for you? NO ONE.
No offense, I usually respect Bobs ideas but this one was very stupid. People can’t “share land” next to each other without space and rules. That is why HOA s were created. You have zero idea how much you really learn about people you “ think” you know till you ,i’ve with them and shared land is living with them
Thank you Carol and Bob for a wonderful interview and topic! ❤️❤️
Thanks for your great comments on the Live today.😊
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 thank you Carol 🤗
Bob Wells has told would exactly after my mouth I've been saying this and preaching this for years having a home base is the best thing to do robin live out of your van ever I do not getting a piece of land is what I plan to get in a couple of years guaranteed he's absolutely right..
Carol will you mention me to Bob Wells? I should be able to join everyone by late spring. On one of Bob's videos, he interviewed Phil Causey with Awesome Possum in which he offered his acreage to repair or redo on his property outside of Graham, Texas. Phil has worked on my 14' box van for about 5 months now. I knew I couldn't do all the heavy work of conversion. Decorating is my part. I have admired Bob for a long time. He is like the hub of the wheel with spokes going every direction. Since Bob put out Phil Causey/Awesom Possum here just an hour from where I live, I have gratitude for both. Phil has walls, floor, ceiling,both wired for battery use and also put electrical wiring when I can afford the solar setup, my Maxx Air fan, took off garage door type and built the permanent wall with door and window. Also placed another window for cross ventilation. He is putting can lights now and wall plates for USB. I just want everyone to see that labor was only $4,000. If I relocated there to stay at $35 month, I could stay as long as it took. But I have a job that pays enough to have him do it. One day I will meet you and finish the story. As usual Bob knows what to do, where to go and what to expect. He has a heartbeat of gold and Carol, you are catching up with him. I so enjoy your videos, the strife nomads deal with. The advice given. I am so close to hitting the road, I some times get choked up from the dust I leave behind me. Merry Christmas to you and all of yours. Signed Fredi (not a man) Shaffer.
Hello Carol, your interview with Bob Wells hits so close to home for me. I moved into a manufactured home in 2014. Thinking it was a good move for my retirement which happened in 2019. Now I find myself thinking I made a mistake. The previous owner of our mobile home park Candlewood Estates in Mahomet Illinois was purchased by a corporate group out of California. The new owner raised our lot rent more than 50% and have made many changes that make staying here impossible for me. At 73I am very worried about my future. I find I have to sell my home if I can find a buyer and either move in with a relative or into my vehicle. I am looking to purchase a van just in case I have to do this.
It is such a sad thing that you described and it is happening to more and more folks who thought there future was secure in their mobile home park. I hope Congress gets involved in offering some protection for people in this situation. Meanwhile, I think going in on an affordable.piece of property with a few other people and dividing it up may be the way of the future. Good luck to you. I would love to hear what you ultimately decide.
Same thing happened to me. I live in Reno, could not afford a regular home and purchased a mobile home. The lot rent was $525. The owner sold to a company in CA and within 8-9 months lot rent was up to $750. I work but some of my neighbors are on a fixed income. So now I’m looking at land to purchase while I’m still working along with a van of course.
Always just always only buy in a resident owned park
Same for me- park was sold, new owner keeps raising the rent; can’t afford to stay; losing home. Going nomadic ASAP.
@@yourekittenme. I’m thinking of starting an online group for people exploring living on a few acres in their tiny homes. I need enough room to grow food and for my cats to have a good sized catio. I’ve got a relative whose a builder who can advise me somewhat. Reply if you’re interested and I’ll tell you where I’ve decided to post the group.
My answer is buying a piece of land is the way to go be self-sufficient if possible vanlife is the way to go and definitely alternative living I for one love this lifestyle and I'll never ever ever go back into regular housing again..
Bob is a pioneer. Absolutely love his videos and great info in this video !
Many areas don’t have good public transportation. Please take that into consideration when choosing an area.
There are so many regulations I would be interested in knowing what areas still allow a person to pull up and stay in their RV on their land
It is more infrastructure issue. Water, gas, electricity, cable, Wi-Fi, roadway, and especially fire department needs to be able to get there and has water main to work with. I am in real estate, most undeveloped land in Malibu is due to access to get water and fire trucks is way too expensive for individual owners or small tract home development.
Do a search for unrestricted land for sale. But, not all unrestricted land is on the list but it is a start.
That is something we are working on getting some information out to both our viewers in the future.
@@33Jenesis we don’t want those things. Off grid means off all connections to that stuff. I’m living in desert for the winter. We buy our water and haul it in. Generate our own electricity. Have nomad internet and StarLink. Don’t want cable, water, sewer, etc.
@@gingermcintosh6545 good for you. However not everyone wants hobo living. Some people look to buy a land to set up a tiny home or trailer permitting.
Just be careful what land you buy. Just because you own it doesn't mean you can legally live in a vehicle on it. I'm surprised he didn't mention that. He's also saying to buy an hour away from everything. Someone elderly with health issues isn't going to want to be an hour away fom the nearest hospital. I agrees with having a home base regardless. You just gotta be careful where and what that home base is .
Hospitals are houses of death. The further away you are from them the safer you'll be. That should be obvious by now.
I don't agree. First of all, your going to have issues when you pile millions of folks in one area. Flooding, water issues. It only makes sense. I agree we should not all be piled in together. I also disagree with buying land now! We are headed for a recession that will make 2008 look like childs play! This is my personal opinion from following trends since 2006. WAIT! The real deals are coming. Hyperinflation is always followed by DEFLATION! just sayin.
Climate crisis is a Marxist fear tactic to herd you into poverty. 5 billion years and the only constant in climate is change. The government going Marxist will kill us way before climate. But you are right about having property. Unfortunately their goal is, You'll own nothing.
I had an unexpected serious illness that turned out to be a blessing. My sister not only got me the medical care I needed, but got me all the social services I needed. I'm now on SSDI and Medicare, and living in a subsidized apartment in a senior and/or disabled community, with weekly deliveries from the food bank, and all utilities included. Unless the United States government bureaucracy collapses I should have a roof over my head. I know we all want to be on the road -- at least I do -- but this "compromise" and "settling" that I never wanted to do is actually my salvation. As long as I'm reasonably healthy, I'll have an affordable place. BUT I'm still looking at how to get on the road (while keeping my safety net). Bob has been my inspiration for years and I did live in a Class B on the road before my health crisis. Thank you, as well, for your inspiration and knowledge! The times are changing and all we can do is create safety nets and communities.
Thank you for this!!!! I’m 53 divorced and my children are grown so I’m a empty nester I work fulltime and love ❤what I do I also have great side hustle as well…. Building my retirement BUT i do not want to purchase a house 🏡 I’ve had 2. The apartments are crazy here so I’ve been suv living since moving back to Florida! I want to purchase land and get a small RV. I want to own some ATV’s camping ⛺️ area for others!!!! I want people to connect back to nature!
What do you do for a living?
You are speaking my language!!
I avoid even thinking about HOAs and the like. We have lived for decades in the winter in various vehicles. Volkswagen Westies, small class Cs, etc. 5 or 6 months in the SW and Mexico. During the growing season we live on 50 acres with a self built earth shelter from native materials and gardens/orchards. We have a guest cottage on our land we built from straw bales which we may move into when we are older. A younger woman wants to buy the house when she retires from her Dean job at a college in California. A couple of years from now. I’m 74 and not ready to throw any towels in.
Thank you Bob and Carol for this interview. I agree with all that you've said. I can officially retire in 3.5 years and need to figure out where I am going to go, what I'm going to do. I live in a subsidized apt in California for seniors, however, it was purchased 1.5 years ago by an investment company and our rent has been raised quite a bit 2 times already. I won't be able to afford living here for much longer. I'm also considering retiring sooner because it is so expensive to live in CA. I had to give up my old car several weeks ago because needed repairs are too costly. I'm taking public transportation now and some of my friends have been very kind to let me go to the grocery store with them. Section 8 is not easy to get and waiting lists for affordable housing are long. I'm on a couple of waiting lists that have a 10 year wait.
So, your video is very helpful and land is a good idea. However there are laws that need to be researched to find out if you can live on your own property without a sticks and bricks dwelling on it. I have seen tiny house communities that have one building on the property that sits on a foundation and it is used like a clubhouse/community center. That way they can have tiny houses on the property legally. Maybe it's easier said than done. I've also read that setting up a "commune-like" community has some legalities involved. Maybe it depends on where it is located.
Since I am getting on in years, I think a community/group of people would be a good idea, but I think it would be better if the community was much smaller than 100. It needs to be manageable.
I am thinking of downsizing my belongings and buying a vehicle to live in but I don't know if it can be done in CA. More research is required.
Those are my thoughts and limited knowledge. I will keep researching. I hope to see more videos like this one. It is really helpful.
You are wise to be doing your research now JJ as it seems clear the investment company that bought your apt building will almost certainly continue raising rents. If you have a disability or serious chronic health issue it is possible to get at the top.of the Section 8 list based on what folks who have done so have told me. But otherwise it can be over 10 years. Doing your research is the best thing to do so you make sound decisions that will work for you. Good.luck.
Amen! The "magic" of Southern California is over. Be prepared, don't get caught up in the "things will get better" thinking. Good luck!
I have 5 acres in AR and I'm living in a old cabin on the property. I feel somewhat secure but I'm 65 and i would feel better if i could be more self sufficient and grow my own food. The trees are too tall to give me enough hours of sun.
So I'm thinking of finding a couple other people to go in on a bigger piece of land. When i think of the reality of co-owning with others, i realize how hard it really is to find people who are on the same page, with the same goals and values.
I do think community is important because alienation has caused a lot of issues, like a lack of support for one thing, but to find people who can agree on things... That's pretty hard.
For just one example... alcohol use. Sober people don't want to deal with drunks, but if you co-own with someone who begins to drink too heavily and starts causing issues, what can you do?
And that thing about having 50-100 pitch in to buy land, that's going to require a real estate lawyer to iron out some conditions... For example, should the land be split into 100 parcels? So if someone needs to move into assisted living or decides to move in with a family member, they can sell their parcel? Surveys get expensive.
Not only that but you have to know what the zoning laws are. My property in the area i was in in Fl couldn't be built on unless it was 5 acres or more. So you have 40 people who split 40 acres so they each have one acre, but then find out they can't live on anything smaller than 5 acres.
Bob made it sound too easy and maybe it is in AZ (but would anyone want to live in a state that is so expensive to dig a well and find water?), but in most other states you gave to really do a lot of research because rules are different county by county. Some counties you can't have an RV on the property at all, other counties you can if you get a permit, a well, septic, and power, and after doing all that, you're only allowed to be there 6 months of the year.
There's a lot involved with trying to set up a community. I wish things were easier and i wish people could get along better than they do.
Hubby and I were nomads for 9 years, we bought land and a tiny home last year. I do miss the nomadic life but very grateful for home and land.
We are here only for one reason only! Period! That is to spread love & light. Nothing else matters! Peace and love 2 all! ✌️& ❤️ That's my belief and I'm sticking 2 it! 😃 Great interview & content Ms Glorious. Thanks for sharing!
Agreed😂
Absolutely. Give.me.my flowers while I can still smell.them❤
I am finding it easier to be a nomad after listening to and watching videos by you and Bob Wells. You both offer sage advice on van life. I became a nomad after my wife passed away in June 2021. I bought my van at the end of April, a 2019 GMC Savana 2500 cargo van, and placed my Coleman camp cot and my camping/backpacking gear into it. On September 1, I pulled away with a Uhaul trailer with what possessions I had remaining (at age 76). I have not regretted my decision, not one iota, to change my lifestyle. After more than 30,000 miles, I toured the entire West Coast. After a housesitting stint(free rent) and the holidays, my next adventure is to tour the rest of the Southwest while living in many or all of New Mexico's state parks; an idea after watching a Bob Wells video. My biggest regret is selling two quarter acre lots in Pagosa Springs, Colorado, years before my nomad decision. Great interview, Carol.
Your description summarizes things well. I’ve been watching Bob’s stuff since 2018. Others also contribute as well.
The time has come for action. I anticipate the formation of groups who’ll create “neighborhoods” and the two of you have shown how.
Procrastination will be our undoing. Time to plan, time for real goals.
You nailed it referring to the current banking issues. One of these days something like that or the climate issue will push us over the edge.
Transportation to and from remote properties will also be an issue. I suspect we’ll need to create a society within this society and resources dedicated to the lifestyle. Who else can we depend on?
You nailed it Greg. The time has come to do something now. We are getting warning signs all around that things are not going to get better. Those who prepare now will be in so much better shape than those who wait for everything to be "just right" before making a move. This situation with the banks should have been the final straw that motivated everyone to stop being complacent.
Time to make this parallel society and connect our communities.
Great video! Thanks, Carol & Bob for this important information!
You and Bob are so wonderful and wise..thk u for your service and contributions to this world.
U talked of thing I had not thought of. Thank u
Yes, indeed I would love to Pursue a video van tour and a word about owning cheap land. Bob Wells has been an inspiration for an untold amount of people me being the least of these. I’m in the South Bay section of Los Angeles County. Bob knows about Fiberine. Fiberine is in my backyard
I was team Fiberine, but recently met someone in Quartzsite who had a top added by them. She showed me the shoddy workmanship and told me she had a very difficult time working with them. So, at present I am not recommending them based on what I saw in her vehicle.
20- or 40-ft high cube shipping containers are also an option to consider for your remote property.
They will weather wind, rain & fires. With the right planning, they'll be able to be secured if you do decide to travel. If you decide to finish the interior, you can have doors, windows & skytubes installed, then build our the interiors.
I also think shipping containers are an excellent choice. They are made to sustain very harsh conditions at sea and are very sturdy.
I also agree that shipping containers are a smart choice and they come in various sizes. Good idea.
Shipping containers are a great idea as long as you don't make to many cutouts. That's gets expensive and weakens the structure of the container.
More info plz. Thanks
Shipping containers are wonderful options for building tiny.
Too many places have restrictions on the land. I asked my sister in law if I could camp at her place for a few days when I go to PA in June n she told me they can’t even let the grandkids put up a tent in their huge yard. I am blessed in TX to own 6 acres n not have a lot of codes or restrictions. I can’t imagine living anywhere someone can tell me what to do on my own land.
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This situation is happening in Canada as well. Property is going up in price. But having a home base is a smart idea. But our federal gov is buying it all out as they bring more people in. Its getting scary.
That sounds super scary. Sounds like anyone who wants property better get it now, perhaps Teo or three people or families going in together.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 it is. Then they complain about so many people living in vehicles and/or on the streets, lol. But Bob is right, the quicker you buy in now, the better. Depending on the country.
Excellent video!!! I love Bob and Carol.
Love you back Kelly ❤
Thanks Carol. Great to see Bob and hear his wisdom!
I always learn so.much from him!
you are both so very awesome!!!! thank you to both of you for all you do!!!!
It is comments like this that keep me going and I bet Bob as well.
I like Bob; he's done a lot of good for the community. However, I think he sometimes gives advice without doing enough research. On one of his videos about buying land in Arizona, he gave some incorrect information. He said buying raw acreage in Arizona *automatically* qualifies you for Arizona residency. From what I was told, it does not. One off-gridder living on raw land in Arizona told me that in order to get Arizona residency, he had to sign a legal affidavit stating he lived on his acreage fulltime. A small detail that could be a big detail for those who want permanent residency but do not intend to live on their acreage fulltime. I seriously doubt any state will give you residency just by buying raw acreage, so make sure you check with the state before buying.
I agree that it is absolutely necessary to do your due diligence any time you buy land to make sure what the rules are about not only the zoning for potential future use but also for residency requirements.
My Pops has had a place in SW Florida for 15 years.... The lot rent has went from 340 a month to 760 a month.... Power bill from 30 a month to over 80 a month... Insurance????? Can't afford it anymore it's over 6000 for a 50 year old mobile home...
Hi Greg. Real examples really tell people where things are at. Thanks.
Yes Bob you are the going trend of nomads and we watch your videos and respect all of your information. Thanks!!!❤❤❤❤❤
❤ Bob is wonderful..... and thanks so much for having him. I will continue supporting you both.
Thank you Brian. Check out the Live from today. Bob shared a lot of great info.
I am really looking forward to seeing this! We have what is a tiny home that is plumbed, but the bathroom is not 100% complete and is not furnished. But the walls are drywalled and painted and there is linoleum flooring, etc. It has electricity and a small greenhouse outside the door. It was my apothecary when I was able to work as an herbalist. There is an old block home on the property that essentially is storage and would need an incredible amount of work to be usable, but next to that is what I would assume is approximately a field that is an acre surrounded by trees. I've often said it would be a great place to build tiny homes or to boondock, but as of now, my husband isn't quite in agreement with me. There is a free-flowing well that is spring-fed at the end of our road, and as someone who grew up camping in a minimalist fashion, I think it would be ideal. I know we are allowed a tiny home here...but are we allowed multiple tiny homes or campers that are boondocking? That I don't know. Definitely an interesting topic!
What you are describing sounds simply amazing. Land plus a water source. Are there any similiar properties for sale in your area? Would you mind emailing me the area at
Gloriouslifeonwheels@gmail.com
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 Sure! Give me just a few minutes to answer.
@@gloriouslifeonwheels3621 I just sent it to you!
I’m so glad you guys gals posted this. I’m no where near retirement but after my only child outgrew the nest, I sold my first and only home because I knew if I continued my lifestyle (CA) I would be a burden on my son one day. So nomad since 2021 . Don’t regret my decision but the road gets lonely. I do miss being part of a community. ( of course a community that respects everyone’s alone time) ❤
If you decide to start the tiny home discussion. I know a ton about them. Wait listed for Boxable - since 2019. Aka before tiny homes were cool 😎
I think van life or living in a home can both be lonely if you aren't part of a community. If I might suggest, you may want to consider attending some van meetups to connect with other like minded folks. You can go onto the internet and look up van meetups to get a list. We Are The Russos puts out a great list. Although they left out one of my favorites, Lolapalooza, in Texas in late October. Also, you might check with the Escapees group for their meetups or Home On Wheels Alliance, H.O.W.A.virtual coffee chats to meet people. If you have any other questions you can email me at
Gloriouslifeonwheels@gmail.com
Call me crazy, but I am optimistic that things regarding retirement/affordability for life's necessities are about to change, where this will not be as much of a worry, if a worry at all. One has to admit that the system is broken. We are on the cusp of creating a new one, are we ready? What do we want in this new world?
I agree.
We bought 2.5 acres off the grid in 2010. We have a couple of cabins and 30 chickens. Peaceful. Sandra
Looking forward to this evening's live (EST) with Bob! Thank you for this conversation, I am purchasing a few acres in AZ in April.
I'm Arizona, born and have been looking at options to buy property back at the Mothership. If your willing to share information on properties with me, I would appreciate it
What a great move on your part. Congratulations
@@julianeg3035 are you looking in AZ only?
@@susanoakley7322 I am open to other areas
I am looking for land with water and a septic. I'm open to investing with anyone who is interested. Bob, Carol are you able to assist me with this or point me in the right direction?
I know of someone whose been struggling with homelessness and have actually considered buying him some land and a tiny home. Such sage advice!
I think more and more.people are going to be choosing this option.
I agree, there will be a day when we can't drive rather due to old age or bad health, and we must think ahead. I think it would be wise for several like minded nomads to come together and buy a small piece of land to park their Vans or RV's close to hospital and Pharmacy. And that doesn't mean you have to stay there, you could still come and go as you please, It would just be a homebase when you needed it.
I couldn't agree more. The pandemic certainly highlighted the need for a safe haven in a storm!!
Having a refuge, even a small acreage provides such a sense of security. Just be sure to research so you buy land that allows you to have your rig on your property long term. Even building a small cabin may very well require permitting and inspection.
Thanks for doing this video and being so frank about the plight of affordable housing. I've been traveling for the past eight months around the US and been shocked to see how many people are living full-time in RV parks because they can't afford rent, let alone a mortgage. When one has the opportunity to open their eyes, it's quite shocking to see how many campgrounds have become full-time RV/Trailer parks.
I have been doing my research and have seen the same. I've also noticed that many RV parks that I've been following have raised their prices within a short period of time which means RV parks will not be affordable soon. Therefore it seems that, at least right now, that having your own land may be best. However, as was mentioned in another comment, that some places do not allow you to camp or park and live in an RV on your own land. Incredibly unbelievable.
When I first became involved in van life I also was.shocked to see how.many people were living fulltime in cars, vans, and rvs., not.out of choice but kut of necessity. So.many were older women.
@@jjbear5258I have been looking at rv/tiny home/mobile home gated communities. Many have HOAs which can be a plus but a concern is if something happens with the economy or value of the dollar, you can lose the land you paid for by not paying your HOA dues. I wish you could not lose your property by back taxes or HOA dues.
Thanks again Carol and Bob 😊
The world is changing fast and not always for the better. We must think and act for ourselves. Thanks, Bob and Carol!
So true Mitzi.
Won't there be squatters who will grab the little piece of land you bought, if you don't seem to be around there. Or even if you are? Do you fence in the land and put signs telling people not to trespass? Doesn't this kind of isolation invite mean characters who might want to steal the little that you may have, or worse?
Bob has said thieves are lazy and don't want to go out of their way..further out the better
I think Meth heads still wander around out on the backroads..... but with gas being a higher price it might be helping keeping the meth heads in check.
I’m Bob’s neighbor in Northern Arizona! Bought a piece of the college streets off of 64
My dreams are VERY MUCH complete!, the two wisest ppl in my opinion on this matter & and a GREAT meet up interview between the two! I'm in total agreement w/the both! More so U Ms Carol for being involved to this point in such a much shorter time spand than Bob Wells, of course not balancing it at all to his time experience & expertise on this subject! Allow me to stop for now, cause I can go on & on w/my appreciation to the both of you for all that y'all have accomplished, done for others, & so forth! Thanks to the both!🤗...
Thank you T. C. You always have such encouraging things to say and I really do appreciate you for that.