On the subject of Dean’s sexuality, Rebel director Nicholas Ray is on record saying, “James Dean was not straight, he was not gay, he was bisexual. That seems to confuse people, or they just ignore the facts. Some-most-will say he was heterosexual, and there's some proof for that, apart from the usual dating of actresses his age. Others will say no, he was gay, and there's some proof for that too, keeping in mind that it's always tougher to get that kind of proof. But Jimmy himself said more than once that he swung both ways, so why all the mystery or confusion?"
People seem to have a really difficult time accepting men can be bisexual for some reason. I even knew a lesbian who said that bisexuality in men was "next to non-existent", so even non-heterosexual people can be very closed minded about it. There seems to be this weird sort of "one drop rule" in regards to men's sexuality. In other words, a man can have sex with 9 women and 1 man, but so many people will say he's gay because he was with that one man, ignoring the 9 women. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what James Dean was, but from everything I've seen, he seemed pretty darn bisexual. I just get the impression he liked attractive people regardless if they were male or female.
"There's nothing aspirational or glamorous about dying young" A very truthful statement, i'm glad you said it, too many people romanticize the "live fast, did young" attitude, especially in pop culture. Btw, your eyes are gorgeous!!!
I loved this video! The gay tension in Rebel is almost ridiculous. Also I don't Judy wanted to fuck her dad. I think she was upset that now that she's older anytime she shows affection towards her father like she has her whole life, her father implies that it comes off sexual. It's a icky feeling when you begin to realize some men in your family now see you as a "woman" instead of their sister, daughter, niece, etc. You have to change the way you act because of their perception of you has changed just because your body changed. That's just my interpretation though lol.
Maybe. But she also dresses up in "racy" clothes, according to wikipedia, to get daddy's attention. So Idk about that. Even the scene in this video, she insists she be able to kiss her dad. Instead of just saying, "why are you seeing me differently?"
When the question came up and a reporter asked if he was a homosexual, his BRILLIANT answer was "Well, I sure wouldn't want to go thru life with one hand tied behind my back." Doesn't sound too straight to me.
Not only was that a brilliant answer but a cool one...because it could be taken two completely different ways depending on who he was talking to. Very clever coming from a 24 year old guy in the 1950's. That James Dean...he's pretty cool. 😊
This was so good! Your style reminds me a lot of Cold Crash Pictures, just like, openly gay. I look forward to going through the rest of your catalogue and your future stuff.
You had my until you said “Giant” wasn’t very good. It’s considered to be one of the 100 greatest films of all time and my fav of his 3 movies. He had the best natural chemistry with Elizabeth Taylor and Dean and Rock Hudson were two closet cases competing for Liz’s friendship and attention on set which made for a great natural rivalry. Also fun fact...the abandoned mansion in Rebel the 3 friends gather is the same mansion used in the 1950 masterpiece Sunset Blvd
I thought it was boring and I could hardly sit through it clocking in at three hours. Dean mumbled his lines plus he was covered head to toe in oil in one scene so you couldn't see his face.
I like "Giant", but I do have to admit that it is a bit of a snoozer, at least in parts. Plus, I'm a Texan, so I can imagine non-Texans being bored by a lot of the movie. But yes, any movie that crosses the 3 hour mark had better be able to justify being that long, much like "Titanic". I'll never get those 3 hours back. LoL
@@jbpitcock I read where they were going to combine the plots of Titanic and Giant and have the Benedick mansion sink when it struck an iceberg. It would still have had a gay iconography with lots of oil rigs and life preservers, though.
back in our parents/grandparents day i think "gay" was more of an umbrella way to say "not straight".. i don't doubt elizabeth taylor knew what she was talking about (and wouldn't talk if she didn't), but just more of a footnote that the colloquial meaning of words changes/evolves over time, so i wouldn't worry too much about retrofitting the pinpoint precise language of the 2020s to something an old school hollywood star said 20-30-40+ yrs ago..
Back in those days gay meant happy, sometime during the 60s it became the common term to refer to homosexual men as gay. It was never used as an umbrella term to mean non-straight. The slang term for bisexuality then was AC/DC or "swings both ways", up until the 70s when the term "bisexual" gained traction and became the preferred term for bisexuality. Elizabeth Taylor was a well informed individual and she knew James Dean, Montgomery Clift and Rock Hudson personally.
@@1636bvick once again, we're talking about a clip from the 2000 GLAAD media awards.. anyone who needs to convince themselves there's some grand contradiction in the fact that elizabeth taylor didn't go down the list with a scalpel and define each star she knew by how they might identify in 2021 instead of understanding that she was clearly using "gay" as a synonym for "involved with men" in this context is welcome to stay in their parallel universe, but it's probably not going to be the most fruitful use of your time trying to convince the rest of us to join your alternate reality..
@@morristownsend2912 She didn't know JD, not really, no one did. He told her only what he wanted her to know. Nothing else. She really ought not have said what she did.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on the queer legend of Dean - intelligent, witty, sensitive and truthful And also painfully honest about the gay adoration of beauty and youth Beautifully expressed Look forward to seeing your other work on here
Regardless of his intention at the time he was only a young lad most likely experiencing what most of us do. Either way I don’t care because he is and was the coolest most beautiful person inside out and always. On another note - he only ever truely deeply loved one person. She realised yrs later after marrying the guy her parents wanted of her. She to was madly deeply in love with James and decided to sign outta here for good, aged 39.
And If you still doubt, the homoerotic undertones in Rebel, Just look at Sal Mineo's and Jimmy Dean's Screentests.... Also note that Sal was completely in Love with Jimmy Dean in real Life! We miss you both!❤
good vid! though my one critique is not mentioning (explicitly) the likelihood that james dean was bisexual. from what we know he messed around with men AND women. but who knows what he might have learned about himself or what he wouldve come out as later if he had lived longer. for me personally though, i see him as a bisexual icon.
As a newly 21 gay man who's always acted and looked "mature for my age", the fear of the passage of time is real. I'd never seen the connection to the 'teenagers in their 20s' phenomenon before but it makes total sense that trying to recreate the years you've missed while getting further and further away from them would lead to some serious dissonance Weirdly when I think of old Hollywood gay icons, I immediately go to Rock Hudson and then Anthony Perkins. I'd actually never heard of Dean as a specifically gay icon, just the poster child for living fast and dying young
That was titillating. If it were me I would've kissed him (you know, when he said "kiss me") but obviously they couldn't do it then without repercussions on their careers
They had real chemistry. And you could tell they wanted each other. Multiple sources have said that they did have an affair, but we'll never know for sure. Nice to day dream though. :)
@@eyebagsfd4122 I’ve seen a few, they’re so cute together. I don’t get the same level of heat between them as with him and Paul Newman, but they were 100% sweet on each other. Very affectionate for sure. I’m sure they ended up being more than friends, I mean…c’mon. 😀❤️
Great video! I decided to look up James Dean because I really never knew anything about him but was surprised to hear from someone that he is also known for being... well not straight lol
Turning 30 or 40 can be difficult if you’ve been overly connected to the club scene, but invisibility comes when even older. Heck, even in calling an LGBTQ center for a support group, you’re considered a senior at 55.
I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed YOU! Besides the content being interesting and very informative, you made the presentation lively & a pleasure to watch. Your voice is so up-beat & it doesn't hurt that you are gorgeous! I'm looking forward to savoring the rest of your videos! Thank you.
The fear and aversion towards ageing due to a lack of understanding about what it means or looks like to be a mature gay man reminds me quite a bit of the experience women have around ageing. Until recently (things are a bit better), women's currency (not just social) has been so extraordinarily tied with our level of physical attractiveness according to straight men in positions of influence--and their idealised female beauty is... sometimes scarily young, quite frankly. And that scarily young thing totally plays out in the gay community, too, based on the commentary of my gay friends. While ageing and women has an incredibly long legacy and a host of gendered factors, from an individual perspective, I think a lot of the fear of ageing and related depression in older women is similar to that of gay men--an absence of happy, prominent role models. Where are the visible mature women who are valued, respected, and relevant to society? From what I've seen from within the WLW community, it's really interesting to see lesbians living somewhat free of this. Similarly, it's interesting to observe male members of our LGBT+ community struggling very much with this! Of course, there's a lot of unique factors of pre-21st-century gay lifestyle at play, and the enormous tragedy of untimely death due to persecution, injustice, violence, and crises. Regardless, I do think you've totally nailed the appeal of James Dean to the gay community in terms of his youth. To anyone, male or female, worried about ageing, life isn't necessarily more fun in your 20s--life is literally what you make it, and most people love their 30s. Plus, older Millennials live like tired teenagers who are just as broke/woke, to boot. People these days still look hot AF by 40. Young, too. Has your favourite 30-year-old celeb barely aged a year? Probably. Take your 20-something self, Google the huge list of mind-numbingly attractive actors still better looking than you in their 50s, then develop more anxiety over your looks in addition to whether you have a mommy/daddy fetish. Gay death and becoming an old maid are history. Or really need to be. James Dean died so young, and as beautiful as he was (is, if the CGI faceplant horror becomes reality), he looked a lot older than young people of his age do today. He looks 30-in-a-leather-jacket. Your average 40-year-old from 1953 could've crawled into a coffin, but their ~mature descendent is probably at a punk gig in a mini skirt (regardless of gender). People are getting way younger for longer in every sense of the word. But there's also so much that's amazing and profound about experiencing life and getting older. I guarantee that people generally get more interesting, for a start. It totally is a privilege to get old, and the best we can hope for is to do it with strength, grace, empathy, and engagement.
Such agonizing sincerity in his eyes! I truly believe that James Dean wanted to be authentically sincere in the different roles he played. In our macho culture this is gay! Meanwhile, James Dean is merely trying to be a good actor. Why is his sexuality anybody's business. If one is gay, one is born that way and there is no way this can be changed. If Jimmy was born gay, why should that matter to anyone but Jimmy. Poor Jimmy had to sell himself with movie producers and I know that he was sexually abused by producers and directors with whom he worked. If you read his biography, you know that Jimmy had only one ambition: to become the best actor of his generation. Personally, I think he achieved it: gay or not gay !!!
Frankly, I was surprised by how much I liked this video. What I figured was just going to a general synopsis of the James Dean story (damn he was handsome!) turned out to be, for me, a really well thought out treatise on our culture. As a model-aged guy man, I totally relate to all you said: it absolutely forbidden for me to be my young self; I had to be “normal.” And frankly, the only reason I survived AIDS intact was because I was utterly closeted and celibate until way later in life. So, yeah, even now I’m trying to figure stuff out. Thanks for a truly great piece!
Interesting video. I think I have to start by saying that I HATE the word "queer", because it's all I heard as a kid in the 1980s. It was a horrible slur, that usually was followed with violence. That aside, I can relate to your point about "gay men getting older". I came out at 26 (yes, 26!) so I was mausoleum meat almost before I started. I'm 48 this year, & have come to terms with the fact that nobody wants me. I guess what's important to me now is how I feel about myself; rather than what others think. At least, that's the position I try to take. I'm determined to dress how I like, including in leather jackets, jeans, t shirts etc, & if people don't like it,....tough. Maybe that is a lesson from James Dean; be who you want to be, whether others approve or not!
You mentioned Sal Mineo and he was also an important figure of that era. Sadly he was killed by a drug addict in his late 30's. Oh! And by the way, you pronounced his last name as "mi-nay-oh", emphasis on the "nay." That was incorrect. He was very Italian so his last name was pronounced "Min-ee-oh", emphasis on first syllable. Just sayin'......
I think he was bisexual. I understand that the main topic is "James Dean isn't straight", what I find is correct but In my opinion, you did not give enough attention to his interests for women. I just want to stress that he had so many serious relationships with women... There is also the example with Lois Smith... I'm not trying to show that being gay is bad or something, just making it clear that James Dean wasn't completely gay, as the video mainly shows his gay side. In any case, James Dean remains a non-straight person. That's for sure...
Very interesting explanation of gay men’s internal thoughts and workings. I wasn’t aware that James Dean was gay, all though I had heard stories about it, but I knew Sal Mineo was gay for a fact. Thank you for the enlightening and honest take on James Dean’s life.
Interesting video and insight into gay thought process. Especially about the fears of getting older as a gay man. I was going to hark on about how women also struggle with a lot of the things you said there at the end, but I'm sure you already know, it just wasn't the point of the video to have to also bring those up. And it was good to see those problems talked about from someone with a different experience, as I didn't know this. Although sometimes on ONTD, I see off hand comments about it. lol. I always really liked Ethan Hawkes interview where he talked about River Phoenix (who might have been bisexual, or just very open to experimentation and got lots of comparisons to James Dean), and at first how he also saw it as River being "forever young" but that when he grew up he realised what bullshit that was and a stupid way of thinking and that there was nothing glamorous about it and like you said nothing to aspire to.
"Gay Death at 30" is only a fascination of gay men under 30 who haven't yet realized that your tastes evolve with time as you age. Once you're well over 30, and you put that shit behind you, you realize attraction is more multidimensional than a function of just how thin and cute you are. Not to say youth doesn't help anybody's case, but if that's all you're banking on, then yes. 30 could look like the event horizon of a black hole.
Great video, Evan! You mention the challenges gay men face with aging. One of the James Dean tribute videos on UA-cam uses Alphaville's "Forever Young" as background music. I have wondered what the legacies and perceptions of James Dean and Montgomery Clift would have been today had Dean had survived his 1955 accident and had Clift died in his 1956 crash. So much of Dean's actual legacy was that so much of it depends on just 3 films made in our year, 1955. Had he died in 1954, few -- if any of us -- would have heard of him.
‘Giant’ was painful when Hudson’s on the screen but when Dean turns up, well something happens there. I instinctively hated all the white actors of that era but when Dean’s character sucker punches Hudson’s, even the eight year old me knew, I was watching a kind of genius. By way the arch narrative affected here, kind of messes up the message.
Just a little bit of extra info for you. I can tell you did a bit of research for this. Actually, the person that controls Dean's estate is his cousin Marcus who grew up with James. Dean referred to him as his little brother. Friends say he would frame drawings Marcus sent him and hang them in his apartments in New York and Hollywood. He also named his cat that Liz Taylor gave him Marcus. So, the idea that is circulating the web and media that it was a distant relative and a gold digger that signed off on "Finding Jack" is incorrect. Also the picture you use when talking about Bill Bast is actually photographer Dennis Stock. Coincidental, Stock did an entire photo shoot of James and Marcus which were used in a photo expose in Life magazine in 1955. Google "James Dean and Marcus." The famous quote you use was most likely never said by Dean, at least no biographer has ever been able to verify him saying it. It is actually a paraphrase of a quote by Gandhi, "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." I've always thought he probably quoted Gandhi to someone else and they paraphrased the quote and ascribed it to James.
Was the Marcus person just 7 when Dean died. Somehow I still see some gold digging here. I was nine when he died. Lose my grand father that year. Have little clear memories of him now at 74. But sure could fabricate a bunch if I could have cashed him in all these years.
@@robertsullivan4773 IDK about this specific Marcus person, but I do know that 7 is old enough to have been profoundly influenced by someone. Especially if you had a special bond with them.
I never saw James Dean in real life, but I did see Sal Mineo in 1958 when he made a personal appearance at my local movie theater for his own movie, "Angel"( I think that was the name)! When he left the building & I left at the same time, I saw him getting into a Cadillac limo behind the theater! I was only 12 but was nearly his size! I guess movie stars don't always look the same in real life!
GIANT is a masterpiece and an incredibly important film for many reasons. Not sure how anyone could dismiss it. In general, people should not make judgement calls if they don't understand film and film history.
After hearing the end of this presentation I actually feel good about being straight. My friend Steve is a middle-aged gay man. I will ask him what it was like, middle-aged and gay death
James lived the way he could in his times, the way passible. It if not funny or comic. That way of portraying Dean's gayness is a homophobic and a heterocentric way of seen identity. Gay is not necessarily related to femininity. Neither with the young myth. There you are correct (I think therefore I am). I see your interpretation as a mirror of yourself. But it is also another reflection of your own gayness. I am a drag queen... transgender. "Mi espejo!". But your discourse should be welcomed.
Interesting, knew all of this and much more about Jimmy, having been a good friend of one of his friends from the '50's, who was much older than myself. Have to chuckle a bit about your talk of aging and how you feel about it. Years from now you'll see what I mean...lol...thanks 4 the vid!
Wow! Just wow! (In a good way.) I live in England and in doing so benefit for watching BBC news film review and and BBC radio 5 live Friday film review, both presented by Mark Kermode. The latter co hosted with Simon Mayo. I have to say that the content in this video I found to be expertly thought out, constructed, argued and delivered. It is very impressive, end reminded me at lot of marks style of review. Take it from me, that's high praise. Well done. Ever thought about doing a River Phoenix video?
I suggest you start looking for a long-term relationship now at your age. It's almost impossible to find a good looking husband after the age of 50. Live long and prosper, make sure you moisturize.
100% on both counts. But, not everyone is looking for a serious relationship. Just be aware that prospects do start to dwindle by your 40's, that's all. And OMG yes please find yourself a good moisturizer now, before you think you need one. By the time you start noticing signs of aging, it's too late to go backward. Cheers! :)
@@jbpitcock It's hard to find a good looking face & body, a kind soul, and a healthy mind in one package. If you have thank your higher power on a regular basis. ❤
Really liked your commentary about James Dean, very insightful. Also your thoughts on being young/old as a gay man…Completely spot on. Lastly, you are funny!!
Giant was a great movie...and a classic. And though it might not appeal to the younger crowd like Rebel or East might, it actually is credited with showing James Dean's range as an actor. Reviewers of Dean will often say the former two had James playing very similar type roles, hence limiting his range. Whereas Giant really showed his depth as an actor. It was a very important film for him and not to be disregarded as a James Dean flick. As to the rest of the commentary, pretty spot on with a lot of points. James Dean will be forever immortalized as a young man, and because youth and beauty are of utmost importance to gay men, this will forever solidify his place within the realm of that gay mystique and attraction. I've often noted with straight friends that gay men can be quite stunted in how they approach the world, and relationships, because when straight friends were dating, going to prom, and basically passing on through the natural progression of growing up as teenagers, many boys who were becoming aware of their true nature as gay had to hide it away. Something addressed in the video. And very true. It is sad though that because of the obsession with youth, and conversely the oft-times disparaging remarks about gays as they grow older, gay men can also be some of the most judgmental, and sometimes unkind people out there. When gays find themselves mistreated and/or judged by the rest of society, it would be nice to know that they can at least support each other. But they clearly don't. This can be seen in the way they treat older men. Or the way they treat each other within the younger generation, when a young man doesn't have the body or looks that so many gays deem important. Odd that younger straight men, even the good-looking, fit ones, will treat older women with respect (and even date them, etc. etc.) no matter how old they are or what they look like, while gay men are just the opposite. And can actually be cruel to older men. Pretty telling that a gay man is past his prime at 30, while straight women in their 40s and 50s are landing good looking men in their 20s and 30s. Would seem to suggest that straight men are way more accepting and kind than gay men often are.
Regarding Elizabeth Taylor's testimony, it must be borne in mind that at that time, people did not make the distinctions that we have today, which are much more varied, that is, the entire LGBT + spectrum. Before everyone was included with the label "gay", Freddy Mercury himself was also a "victim" of this generalization, being that he was bisexual, not gay.
That's not accurate, there was a clear distinction between gay and bi even back then. The fact that so many gay men have had to come out as bi first before they could come out as fully gay is evident of this. Freddie Mercury told Mary Austin that he was bi, but she said she knew he wasn't being entirely honest about it and that he was really gay. He said bi to "soften the blow" and spare her her feelings, he really cared about Mary and didn't want to hurt her any further than he had already done.
Elizabeth Taylor also said this when questioned about Dean’s sexuality in 1997: KEVIN SESSUMS: Part of the poetry of your AIDS service, to me, is an allusion to your performance in A Place in the Sun. It's as if all of us gay men, all of those living with AIDS, are Monty Clift and you're turning to us in close-up and saying, "Tell Mama. Tell Mama all about it." ELIZABETH TAYLOR: Mmmmm … yes. "Tell Mama all … " KEVIN SESSUMS: James Dean? ELIZABETH TAYLOR: I loved Jimmy, too. We used to sit up and talk and talk. KEVIN SESSUMS: There's been this postmortem debate about whether he was gay or not. What do you think? ELIZABETH TAYLOR: He hadn't made up his mind. He was only 24 when he died. But he was certainly fascinated by women. He flirted around. He and I … twinkled. KEVIN SESSUMS: Better be careful-sounds like water sports. ELIZABETH TAYLOR: Oh God! We had a … well … a … little twinkle for each other. I think Dean was bisexual, because he had relationships with men and women. This is what Nicholas Ray said about his sexuality: “James Dean was not straight, he was not gay, he was bisexual. That seems to confuse people, or they just ignore the facts. Some-most-will say he was heterosexual, and there's some proof for that, apart from the usual dating of actresses his age. Others will say no, he was gay, and there's some proof for that too, keeping in mind that it's always tougher to get that kind of proof. But Jimmy himself said more than once that he swung both ways, so why all the mystery or confusion?"
Back before WWII, homophobia was not a thing. it was not uncommon for heterosexual men who were very good friends to show each other affection or physical closeness. Sometime after WWII, awareness of homosexuality made that sort of physical affection among males taboo.
Evan, you deserve an award for this. Who cares how Sal pronounced his name? I got the point. This is about DEAN. SO everyone get over it. I had a Jimmy Dean when I was 14 all the way through 18. Later, I was James Dean to someone for 11 years. He even looked like Sal. What a luxury. Then 40 hit and it was all over. But to be worshipped by someone so beautiful 😍 for that long is something I will never forget. Neither will he!
7:05 I didn’t think Judy wanted to bone her dad. I think this scene is supposed to convey she is still a child at heart and wants to show her affection towards her dad like a child might. However her dad no longer saw her as a child but rather a woman, one he might even be starting to find sexually attractive that’s why he’s yelling at her to stop doing that. It’s a uniquely teenage girl experience. I remember when I got to a certain age giving my dad certain types of affection I normally would give or wearing certain types of clothes was all the sudden “no longer appropriate”
Evan Michael I just don’t think this is exclusive to any particular identifiable group. It’s a common feeling amongst humans getting older. Unfortunately it’s the culture in which we live.
Yes I'm aware I mispronounced Sal Mineo's last name, but please by all means leave another comment pointing it out it's very helpful
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Thanks, we will & by the way, how gay is this movie.😑
Hey, you mispronounced Sal Mineo's last name. Just thought you should know. 😆
On the subject of Dean’s sexuality, Rebel director Nicholas Ray is on record saying, “James Dean was not straight, he was not gay, he was bisexual. That seems to confuse people, or they just ignore the facts. Some-most-will say he was heterosexual, and there's some proof for that, apart from the usual dating of actresses his age. Others will say no, he was gay, and there's some proof for that too, keeping in mind that it's always tougher to get that kind of proof. But Jimmy himself said more than once that he swung both ways, so why all the mystery or confusion?"
People seem to have a really difficult time accepting men can be bisexual for some reason. I even knew a lesbian who said that bisexuality in men was "next to non-existent", so even non-heterosexual people can be very closed minded about it. There seems to be this weird sort of "one drop rule" in regards to men's sexuality. In other words, a man can have sex with 9 women and 1 man, but so many people will say he's gay because he was with that one man, ignoring the 9 women.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter what James Dean was, but from everything I've seen, he seemed pretty darn bisexual. I just get the impression he liked attractive people regardless if they were male or female.
As a straight male, when someone’s bisexual, they’re gay.
@@AR-ey6gn When someone's bisexual they're ALSO straight.
"There's nothing aspirational or glamorous about dying young" A very truthful statement, i'm glad you said it, too many people romanticize the "live fast, did young" attitude, especially in pop culture. Btw, your eyes are gorgeous!!!
The thing about JD is that he is the first 'modern' looking man. He could be from the 80s or 2021, like a time traveller.
I totally agree ❤️
I loved this video! The gay tension in Rebel is almost ridiculous. Also I don't Judy wanted to fuck her dad. I think she was upset that now that she's older anytime she shows affection towards her father like she has her whole life, her father implies that it comes off sexual. It's a icky feeling when you begin to realize some men in your family now see you as a "woman" instead of their sister, daughter, niece, etc. You have to change the way you act because of their perception of you has changed just because your body changed. That's just my interpretation though lol.
I saw the same scene in Taboo II
i have the same perception than you about the problem of the Judy in the movie
Wow, honestly you do bring up a good point
Oh, I commented pretty much the same thing and then I saw this. Oh well, it's a valid point.
Maybe. But she also dresses up in "racy" clothes, according to wikipedia, to get daddy's attention. So Idk about that. Even the scene in this video, she insists she be able to kiss her dad. Instead of just saying, "why are you seeing me differently?"
When the question came up and a reporter asked if he was a homosexual, his BRILLIANT answer was "Well, I sure wouldn't want to go thru life with one hand tied behind my back." Doesn't sound too straight to me.
Not only was that a brilliant answer but a cool one...because it could be taken two completely different ways depending on who he was talking to. Very clever coming from a 24 year old guy in the 1950's. That James Dean...he's pretty cool. 😊
Dean liked to provoke the Hollywood press. Artists are difficult to define.
@@arricammarques1955 he was bi, cry about it.
"This desire to have one's image crystallized as young and beautiful"
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I am here for gay video essays. Yes. Thank you for blessing us.
That got real deep at the end, but I loved it 🙂
How deep lol jk
rebel without a cause had so much bisexual poly vibes
The subplot was from Nicholas Grey. A Hollywood director as complicated as James.
This was so good! Your style reminds me a lot of Cold Crash Pictures, just like, openly gay. I look forward to going through the rest of your catalogue and your future stuff.
You had my until you said “Giant” wasn’t very good. It’s considered to be one of the 100 greatest films of all time and my fav of his 3 movies. He had the best natural chemistry with Elizabeth Taylor and Dean and Rock Hudson were two closet cases competing for Liz’s friendship and attention on set which made for a great natural rivalry.
Also fun fact...the abandoned mansion in Rebel the 3 friends gather is the same mansion used in the 1950 masterpiece Sunset Blvd
I thought it was boring and I could hardly sit through it clocking in at three hours. Dean mumbled his lines plus he was covered head to toe in oil in one scene so you couldn't see his face.
i dont think they used the whole mansion, i think it was just the empty pool !
I like "Giant", but I do have to admit that it is a bit of a snoozer, at least in parts. Plus, I'm a Texan, so I can imagine non-Texans being bored by a lot of the movie. But yes, any movie that crosses the 3 hour mark had better be able to justify being that long, much like "Titanic". I'll never get those 3 hours back. LoL
It may not be that bad, but compared to Rebel Without a Cause or East of Eden, it was pretty dull and certainly way too long.
@@jbpitcock I read where they were going to combine the plots of Titanic and Giant and have the Benedick mansion sink when it struck an iceberg. It would still have had a gay iconography with lots of oil rigs and life preservers, though.
back in our parents/grandparents day i think "gay" was more of an umbrella way to say "not straight".. i don't doubt elizabeth taylor knew what she was talking about (and wouldn't talk if she didn't), but just more of a footnote that the colloquial meaning of words changes/evolves over time, so i wouldn't worry too much about retrofitting the pinpoint precise language of the 2020s to something an old school hollywood star said 20-30-40+ yrs ago..
Back in those days gay meant happy, sometime during the 60s it became the common term to refer to homosexual men as gay. It was never used as an umbrella term to mean non-straight. The slang term for bisexuality then was AC/DC or "swings both ways", up until the 70s when the term "bisexual" gained traction and became the preferred term for bisexuality. Elizabeth Taylor was a well informed individual and she knew James Dean, Montgomery Clift and Rock Hudson personally.
@@morristownsend2912 cool story, brah.. except the clip he's referring to is elizabeth taylor at the glaad media awards in 2000.
Back in your grandparents day, GAY meant happy or fun filled. Dozens of television shows from the 50's and 60's contain the word gay used this way!
@@1636bvick once again, we're talking about a clip from the 2000 GLAAD media awards.. anyone who needs to convince themselves there's some grand contradiction in the fact that elizabeth taylor didn't go down the list with a scalpel and define each star she knew by how they might identify in 2021 instead of understanding that she was clearly using "gay" as a synonym for "involved with men" in this context is welcome to stay in their parallel universe, but it's probably not going to be the most fruitful use of your time trying to convince the rest of us to join your alternate reality..
@@morristownsend2912 She didn't know JD, not really, no one did. He told her only what he wanted her to know. Nothing else. She really ought not have said what she did.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on the queer legend of Dean - intelligent, witty, sensitive and truthful
And also painfully honest about the gay adoration of beauty and youth
Beautifully expressed
Look forward to seeing your other work on here
"GIANT" is an iconic movie 🎥 👏
Regardless of his intention at the time he was only a young lad most likely experiencing what most of us do. Either way I don’t care because he is and was the coolest most beautiful person inside out and always. On another note - he only ever truely deeply loved one person. She realised yrs later after marrying the guy her parents wanted of her. She to was madly deeply in love with James and decided to sign outta here for good, aged 39.
And If you still doubt, the homoerotic undertones in Rebel, Just look at Sal Mineo's and Jimmy Dean's Screentests....
Also note that Sal was completely in Love with Jimmy Dean in real Life!
We miss you both!❤
good vid! though my one critique is not mentioning (explicitly) the likelihood that james dean was bisexual. from what we know he messed around with men AND women. but who knows what he might have learned about himself or what he wouldve come out as later if he had lived longer. for me personally though, i see him as a bisexual icon.
Me too. It's sad how bisexuality is always ignored, by both straight and gay people
James Dean acted on the stage & in many live TV dramas. Many of these shows are on UA-cam. He didn’t only make 3 films.
I liked Giant. I also think James Dean really showed his acting abilities.
I look James Dean, and i see James Franco. That's why they chose Franco to play him in the 2001 film.
They do look alike, act alike, and have the same name.
As a newly 21 gay man who's always acted and looked "mature for my age", the fear of the passage of time is real. I'd never seen the connection to the 'teenagers in their 20s' phenomenon before but it makes total sense that trying to recreate the years you've missed while getting further and further away from them would lead to some serious dissonance
Weirdly when I think of old Hollywood gay icons, I immediately go to Rock Hudson and then Anthony Perkins. I'd actually never heard of Dean as a specifically gay icon, just the poster child for living fast and dying young
James Dean's screentest with Paul Newman is my entire sexuality.
That was titillating. If it were me I would've kissed him (you know, when he said "kiss me") but obviously they couldn't do it then without repercussions on their careers
They had real chemistry. And you could tell they wanted each other. Multiple sources have said that they did have an affair, but we'll never know for sure. Nice to day dream though. :)
You should see the ones with sal mineo
@@eyebagsfd4122 I’ve seen a few, they’re so cute together. I don’t get the same level of heat between them as with him and Paul Newman, but they were 100% sweet on each other. Very affectionate for sure. I’m sure they ended up being more than friends, I mean…c’mon. 😀❤️
7:16 that’s how my dog bitch slaps me when I try to kiss her nose.
Great video! I decided to look up James Dean because I really never knew anything about him but was surprised to hear from someone that he is also known for being... well not straight lol
He was bisexual
you are so kind!!! I love you, beautiful soul
Turning 30 or 40 can be difficult if you’ve been overly connected to the club scene, but invisibility comes when even older. Heck, even in calling an LGBTQ center for a support group, you’re considered a senior at 55.
I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed YOU! Besides the content being interesting and very informative, you made the presentation lively & a pleasure to watch. Your voice is so up-beat & it doesn't hurt that you are gorgeous! I'm looking forward to savoring the rest of your videos! Thank you.
i dont know you nor have i watched a james dean film, but you had me dying!! this video made my day!
Man i love him so much 🥺
I'm obsessed with how beautifully put together this is. I can't wait to see what you come up with in the future ♡
The fear and aversion towards ageing due to a lack of understanding about what it means or looks like to be a mature gay man reminds me quite a bit of the experience women have around ageing. Until recently (things are a bit better), women's currency (not just social) has been so extraordinarily tied with our level of physical attractiveness according to straight men in positions of influence--and their idealised female beauty is... sometimes scarily young, quite frankly. And that scarily young thing totally plays out in the gay community, too, based on the commentary of my gay friends.
While ageing and women has an incredibly long legacy and a host of gendered factors, from an individual perspective, I think a lot of the fear of ageing and related depression in older women is similar to that of gay men--an absence of happy, prominent role models. Where are the visible mature women who are valued, respected, and relevant to society?
From what I've seen from within the WLW community, it's really interesting to see lesbians living somewhat free of this. Similarly, it's interesting to observe male members of our LGBT+ community struggling very much with this! Of course, there's a lot of unique factors of pre-21st-century gay lifestyle at play, and the enormous tragedy of untimely death due to persecution, injustice, violence, and crises. Regardless, I do think you've totally nailed the appeal of James Dean to the gay community in terms of his youth.
To anyone, male or female, worried about ageing, life isn't necessarily more fun in your 20s--life is literally what you make it, and most people love their 30s. Plus, older Millennials live like tired teenagers who are just as broke/woke, to boot. People these days still look hot AF by 40. Young, too. Has your favourite 30-year-old celeb barely aged a year? Probably. Take your 20-something self, Google the huge list of mind-numbingly attractive actors still better looking than you in their 50s, then develop more anxiety over your looks in addition to whether you have a mommy/daddy fetish.
Gay death and becoming an old maid are history. Or really need to be. James Dean died so young, and as beautiful as he was (is, if the CGI faceplant horror becomes reality), he looked a lot older than young people of his age do today. He looks 30-in-a-leather-jacket. Your average 40-year-old from 1953 could've crawled into a coffin, but their ~mature descendent is probably at a punk gig in a mini skirt (regardless of gender). People are getting way younger for longer in every sense of the word. But there's also so much that's amazing and profound about experiencing life and getting older. I guarantee that people generally get more interesting, for a start. It totally is a privilege to get old, and the best we can hope for is to do it with strength, grace, empathy, and engagement.
Such agonizing sincerity in his eyes! I truly believe that James Dean wanted to be authentically sincere in the different roles he played.
In our macho culture this is gay!
Meanwhile, James Dean is merely trying to be a good actor.
Why is his sexuality anybody's business.
If one is gay, one is born that way and there is no way this can be changed.
If Jimmy was born gay, why should that matter to anyone but Jimmy.
Poor Jimmy had to sell himself with movie producers and I know that he was sexually abused by producers and directors with whom he worked.
If you read his biography, you know that Jimmy had only one ambition: to become the best actor of his generation.
Personally, I think he achieved it: gay or not gay !!!
"he was like james dean, for sure" lana del rey‐blue jeans 🔥💯
Frankly, I was surprised by how much I liked this video. What I figured was just going to a general synopsis of the James Dean story (damn he was handsome!) turned out to be, for me, a really well thought out treatise on our culture. As a model-aged guy man, I totally relate to all you said: it absolutely forbidden for me to be my young self; I had to be “normal.” And frankly, the only reason I survived AIDS intact was because I was utterly closeted and celibate until way later in life. So, yeah, even now I’m trying to figure stuff out. Thanks for a truly great piece!
I’m 45 gay and still have my full head of hair.
Interesting video. I think I have to start by saying that I HATE the word "queer", because it's all I heard as a kid in the 1980s. It was a horrible slur, that usually was followed with violence. That aside, I can relate to your point about "gay men getting older". I came out at 26 (yes, 26!) so I was mausoleum meat almost before I started. I'm 48 this year, & have come to terms with the fact that nobody wants me. I guess what's important to me now is how I feel about myself; rather than what others think. At least, that's the position I try to take. I'm determined to dress how I like, including in leather jackets, jeans, t shirts etc, & if people don't like it,....tough. Maybe that is a lesson from James Dean; be who you want to be, whether others approve or not!
I love what you said Evan, that getting old is a priviledge! This is so true!
Youre full of wisdom. Thank you for speaking truth!
Didn't he straight up say that he was bisexual?
No. But he probably was.
@@EvanBadpoor oh okay, thanks :) really liked the video by the way
@@eleftheriak.8889 thank you!
The amount of times I thought I saw Chris Evans instead of James Dean is far too much
they’re literally so different. :/
You mentioned Sal Mineo and he was also an important figure of that era. Sadly he was killed by a drug addict in his late 30's. Oh! And by the way, you pronounced his last name as "mi-nay-oh", emphasis on the "nay." That was incorrect. He was very Italian so his last name was pronounced "Min-ee-oh", emphasis on first syllable. Just sayin'......
I've often thought Natalie Wood played a third wheel with these two.
I think he was bisexual. I understand that the main topic is "James Dean isn't straight", what I find is correct but In my opinion, you did not give enough attention to his interests for women. I just want to stress that he had so many serious relationships with women... There is also the example with Lois Smith... I'm not trying to show that being gay is bad or something, just making it clear that James Dean wasn't completely gay, as the video mainly shows his gay side. In any case, James Dean remains a non-straight person. That's for sure...
Very interesting explanation of gay men’s internal thoughts and workings. I wasn’t aware that James Dean was gay, all though I had heard stories about it, but I knew Sal Mineo was gay for a fact. Thank you for the enlightening and honest take on James Dean’s life.
I just turned 25 today..... I feel middle-aged
Love how you got into character, with the hair, the t-shirt, the leather jacket. You ARE James Dean!
honestly i feel so bad for james he could have been such an icon
Interesting video and insight into gay thought process. Especially about the fears of getting older as a gay man. I was going to hark on about how women also struggle with a lot of the things you said there at the end, but I'm sure you already know, it just wasn't the point of the video to have to also bring those up. And it was good to see those problems talked about from someone with a different experience, as I didn't know this. Although sometimes on ONTD, I see off hand comments about it. lol.
I always really liked Ethan Hawkes interview where he talked about River Phoenix (who might have been bisexual, or just very open to experimentation and got lots of comparisons to James Dean), and at first how he also saw it as River being "forever young" but that when he grew up he realised what bullshit that was and a stupid way of thinking and that there was nothing glamorous about it and like you said nothing to aspire to.
WHATEVER ! JAMES DEAN / BRILLIANT . / PHOTOGENIC / " ICON " FOREVER YOUNG / PERIOD .
This was a great video! Well done!
Bruce lee did three films and died at 33
"Gay Death at 30" is only a fascination of gay men under 30 who haven't yet realized that your tastes evolve with time as you age. Once you're well over 30, and you put that shit behind you, you realize attraction is more multidimensional than a function of just how thin and cute you are. Not to say youth doesn't help anybody's case, but if that's all you're banking on, then yes. 30 could look like the event horizon of a black hole.
Great video, Evan! You mention the challenges gay men face with aging. One of the James Dean tribute videos on UA-cam uses Alphaville's "Forever Young" as background music. I have wondered what the legacies and perceptions of James Dean and Montgomery Clift would have been today had Dean had survived his 1955 accident and had Clift died in his 1956 crash. So much of Dean's actual legacy was that so much of it depends on just 3 films made in our year, 1955. Had he died in 1954, few -- if any of us -- would have heard of him.
I don't know what men you're talking about but men in there twenties never appealed to me even when I was in my twenties.
‘Giant’ was painful when Hudson’s on the screen but when Dean turns up, well something happens there. I instinctively hated all the white actors of that era but when Dean’s character sucker punches Hudson’s, even the eight year old me knew, I was watching a kind of genius.
By way the arch narrative affected here, kind of messes up the message.
Just a little bit of extra info for you. I can tell you did a bit of research for this. Actually, the person that controls Dean's estate is his cousin Marcus who grew up with James. Dean referred to him as his little brother. Friends say he would frame drawings Marcus sent him and hang them in his apartments in New York and Hollywood. He also named his cat that Liz Taylor gave him Marcus. So, the idea that is circulating the web and media that it was a distant relative and a gold digger that signed off on "Finding Jack" is incorrect. Also the picture you use when talking about Bill Bast is actually photographer Dennis Stock. Coincidental, Stock did an entire photo shoot of James and Marcus which were used in a photo expose in Life magazine in 1955. Google "James Dean and Marcus." The famous quote you use was most likely never said by Dean, at least no biographer has ever been able to verify him saying it. It is actually a paraphrase of a quote by Gandhi, "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." I've always thought he probably quoted Gandhi to someone else and they paraphrased the quote and ascribed it to James.
Was the Marcus person just 7 when Dean died. Somehow I still see some gold digging here. I was nine when he died. Lose my grand father that year. Have little clear memories of him now at 74. But sure could fabricate a bunch if I could have cashed him in all these years.
@@robertsullivan4773 IDK about this specific Marcus person, but I do know that 7 is old enough to have been profoundly influenced by someone. Especially if you had a special bond with them.
I never saw James Dean in real life, but I did see Sal Mineo in 1958 when he made a personal appearance at my local movie theater for his own movie, "Angel"( I think that was the name)!
When he left the building & I left at the same time, I saw him getting into a Cadillac limo
behind the theater! I was only 12 but was nearly his size! I guess movie stars don't always
look the same in real life!
GIANT is a masterpiece and an incredibly important film for many reasons. Not sure how anyone could dismiss it. In general, people should not make judgement calls if they don't understand film and film history.
Rebel Without a Cause outsold
Wow this was surprisingly good. He completely nailed Dean.
One can dream.
Today Jimmy would have been 90. Who’s to say what he would have done or the life he would have lived had he not died at 24?!?!?
After hearing the end of this presentation I actually feel good about being straight. My friend Steve is a middle-aged gay man. I will ask him what it was like, middle-aged and gay death
Giant is a fantastic movie. You’re just wrong about that.
James lived the way he could in his times, the way passible. It if not funny or comic. That way of portraying Dean's gayness is a homophobic and a heterocentric way of seen identity. Gay is not necessarily related to femininity. Neither with the young myth. There you are correct (I think therefore I am). I see your interpretation as a mirror of yourself. But it is also another reflection of your own gayness. I am a drag queen... transgender. "Mi espejo!". But your discourse should be welcomed.
Love your docu here, a Great job! With Your good looks, u need to make a trip to Hollywood!
Interesting, knew all of this and much more about Jimmy, having been a good friend of one of his friends from the '50's, who was much older than myself.
Have to chuckle a bit about your talk of aging and how you feel about it. Years from now you'll see what I mean...lol...thanks 4 the vid!
Wow! Just wow! (In a good way.)
I live in England and in doing so benefit for watching BBC news film review and and BBC radio 5 live Friday film review, both presented by Mark Kermode. The latter co hosted with Simon Mayo. I have to say that the content in this video I found to be expertly thought out, constructed, argued and delivered. It is very impressive, end reminded me at lot of marks style of review. Take it from me, that's high praise. Well done. Ever thought about doing a River Phoenix video?
His nephew who did know him is quite alive
As to what you said the last three minutes-we do have as our role models/pioneers the men of the Stonewall Inn.
I suggest you start looking for a long-term relationship now at your age. It's almost impossible to find a good looking husband after the age of 50. Live long and prosper, make sure you moisturize.
Your joking right? Atlanta is full of gorgeous educated and fun and lovely men.
100% on both counts. But, not everyone is looking for a serious relationship. Just be aware that prospects do start to dwindle by your 40's, that's all. And OMG yes please find yourself a good moisturizer now, before you think you need one. By the time you start noticing signs of aging, it's too late to go backward. Cheers! :)
@@jbpitcock It's hard to find a good looking face & body, a kind soul, and a healthy mind in one package. If you have thank your higher power on a regular basis. ❤
Really liked your commentary about James Dean, very insightful. Also your thoughts on being young/old as a gay man…Completely spot on. Lastly, you are funny!!
Giant was a great movie...and a classic.
And though it might not appeal to the younger crowd like Rebel or East might, it actually is credited with showing James Dean's range as an actor. Reviewers of Dean will often say the former two had James playing very similar type roles, hence limiting his range.
Whereas Giant really showed his depth as an actor.
It was a very important film for him and not to be disregarded as a James Dean flick.
As to the rest of the commentary, pretty spot on with a lot of points.
James Dean will be forever immortalized as a young man, and because youth and beauty are of utmost importance to gay men, this will forever solidify his place within the realm of that gay mystique and attraction.
I've often noted with straight friends that gay men can be quite stunted in how they approach the world, and relationships, because when straight friends were dating, going to prom, and basically passing on through the natural progression of growing up as teenagers, many boys who were becoming aware of their true nature as gay had to hide it away. Something addressed in the video. And very true.
It is sad though that because of the obsession with youth, and conversely the oft-times disparaging remarks about gays as they grow older, gay men can also be some of the most judgmental, and sometimes unkind people out there.
When gays find themselves mistreated and/or judged by the rest of society, it would be nice to know that they can at least support each other. But they clearly don't. This can be seen in the way they treat older men. Or the way they treat each other within the younger generation, when a young man doesn't have the body or looks that so many gays deem important.
Odd that younger straight men, even the good-looking, fit ones, will treat older women with respect (and even date them, etc. etc.) no matter how old they are or what they look like, while gay men are just the opposite. And can actually be cruel to older men.
Pretty telling that a gay man is past his prime at 30, while straight women in their 40s and 50s are landing good looking men in their 20s and 30s. Would seem to suggest that straight men are way more accepting and kind than gay men often are.
Regarding Elizabeth Taylor's testimony, it must be borne in mind that at that time, people did not make the distinctions that we have today, which are much more varied, that is, the entire LGBT + spectrum. Before everyone was included with the label "gay", Freddy Mercury himself was also a "victim" of this generalization, being that he was bisexual, not gay.
That's not accurate, there was a clear distinction between gay and bi even back then. The fact that so many gay men have had to come out as bi first before they could come out as fully gay is evident of this. Freddie Mercury told Mary Austin that he was bi, but she said she knew he wasn't being entirely honest about it and that he was really gay. He said bi to "soften the blow" and spare her her feelings, he really cared about Mary and didn't want to hurt her any further than he had already done.
Elizabeth Taylor also said this when questioned about Dean’s sexuality in 1997:
KEVIN SESSUMS: Part of the poetry of your AIDS service, to me, is an allusion to your performance in A Place in the Sun. It's as if all of us gay men, all of those living with AIDS, are Monty Clift and you're turning to us in close-up and saying, "Tell Mama. Tell Mama all about it."
ELIZABETH TAYLOR: Mmmmm … yes. "Tell Mama all … "
KEVIN SESSUMS: James Dean?
ELIZABETH TAYLOR: I loved Jimmy, too. We used to sit up and talk and talk.
KEVIN SESSUMS: There's been this postmortem debate about whether he was gay or not. What do you think?
ELIZABETH TAYLOR: He hadn't made up his mind. He was only 24 when he died. But he was certainly fascinated by women. He flirted around. He and I … twinkled.
KEVIN SESSUMS: Better be careful-sounds like water sports.
ELIZABETH TAYLOR: Oh God! We had a … well … a … little twinkle for each other.
I think Dean was bisexual, because he had relationships with men and women. This is what Nicholas Ray said about his sexuality:
“James Dean was not straight, he was not gay, he was bisexual. That seems to confuse people, or they just ignore the facts. Some-most-will say he was heterosexual, and there's some proof for that, apart from the usual dating of actresses his age. Others will say no, he was gay, and there's some proof for that too, keeping in mind that it's always tougher to get that kind of proof. But Jimmy himself said more than once that he swung both ways, so why all the mystery or confusion?"
Thats silly. Everyone knows men get better with age.
Meaning.
Great video. I was screaming gay throughout "rebel without a cause", might I add, you're more handsome than Mr Dean himself.
WHAT!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!! DEAN IS 100% MORE HANDSOME !!!
@@americangirl- girl i had no idea what i was saying pls 💀😭😭 Dean is more handsome i think i was just high
Excellent job! Keep up the good work!
Someone could tell me pls where can i watch rebel, I've been wanting to watch it for so long :/
You made very good points.👏👏👏👏
Great content and editing 👍
9:53 no that was dean's photographer dennis stock
thank you I was deeply unconvinced when that photo turned up in google search
Dennis Hopper
@@chasesecrest5568 hahahahahahahaha!!!
Awesome video. You hit it just right at the end of the video!! 👍 well put together man.
Back before WWII, homophobia was not a thing. it was not uncommon for heterosexual men who were very good friends to show each other affection or physical closeness. Sometime after WWII, awareness of homosexuality made that sort of physical affection among males taboo.
I love my baby james
Evan, you deserve an award for this. Who cares how Sal pronounced his name? I got the point. This is about DEAN. SO everyone get over it.
I had a Jimmy Dean when I was 14 all the way through 18. Later, I was James Dean to someone for 11 years. He even looked like Sal. What a luxury. Then 40 hit and it was all over. But to be worshipped by someone so beautiful 😍 for that long is something I will never forget. Neither will he!
You forgot Montgomery Cliff
ok not related but your eyes are super pretty
7:05 I didn’t think Judy wanted to bone her dad. I think this scene is supposed to convey she is still a child at heart and wants to show her affection towards her dad like a child might. However her dad no longer saw her as a child but rather a woman, one he might even be starting to find sexually attractive that’s why he’s yelling at her to stop doing that. It’s a uniquely teenage girl experience. I remember when I got to a certain age giving my dad certain types of affection I normally would give or wearing certain types of clothes was all the sudden “no longer appropriate”
You lost me at Giant not being very good..that’s a classic bro. 🤦♂️
Yup, that's where he lost me too.
Cool video
I was watching this old guys story time video where he met Sal Mineo at a gay bar
JD was Aquarius- "the average Aquarius is 50 years ahead of his time"... Dean was prob. a bit more ...
omg i loved everything single word you said thank you for the video
LMAO I LOST IT WHEN BLOOM PLAYED
UTADA in the background was a welcome surprise for me. Already hooked on the video
Hold up, is THAT james franco and johnny depp at the 11:23 mark!
babe that clip was in the 1950s are you okay
I Do NOT THINK ITS TASTELESS... I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAS ANY LIVING RELATIVES
I really loved this 🤗 Thank you 😊
Great video!
Please learn how to pronounce
Sal Mineo’s last name... thanks
please read the 10 other comments saying this exact same thing before you leave a comment on my videos again. thanks.
It's known that he was bi
You do realize women go through the same thing when it comes to aging?
...yes?
Evan Michael I just don’t think this is exclusive to any particular identifiable group. It’s a common feeling amongst humans getting older. Unfortunately it’s the culture in which we live.