Do you know that the director for this movie actually prescribes James Dean and Sal (plato) to spend time together, because the director knew that Sal is gay, and James is Bi. The director wanted to have a good chemistry between the actors, James and Sal eventually fell for each other and was in a relationship. This was confirmed by the director himself. upon knowing that the two actors fell for one another, He actually wanted to put a scene where James and Plato Kiss each other, but the headstudio rejected the idea as it is too controversial.
or to comment about the repression she faces at home, which is why she ends up being attracted to boys that are dangerous (her first boyfriend, james dean).
dennismaryanski I wouldn’t call it a gangbang. Also, there have always been stories about Brando and Dean and how they had a small affair. They were both bi.
No joke, when we were studying this film in class, our professor sent us a link to this video, as a learning material. He called it "a visual essay" on the queer subtext in the film.
Lol. You want to see repressed homosexuality? Just look at male relationships today and how afraid they are of being real with each other. If you’re straight, you got nothing to hide
Honey I'm so sorry I misconstrued what you were saying, I thought you were the homophobe, I'm a fellow queen, native American. The aspersions toward homosexualty is fallible within itself. Closeted men love to hide. I'm gay but I will be careful to make sure I'll be safe.
It was probably better when it wasn't as out and proud like it is now. I'm gay and even I get tired of the LGBT stuff, they've made being gay really boring.
@@chrisprusinowski5287 the peak of AIDS was when people didn't know what was causing it. they wouldn't have known that they were giving it to each other. and why are you even on this video?
@@s.e.landeros280 James was gay too, Elizabeth Taylor said it and I can totally see it on some of his photos, that look in his eyes is just too fabulous
Because we know that even when this age ends, we’ll still be standing, life will go on regardless of the disaster. As a Christian that’s what I know to be true.
I don't care about the gay part only thing I care about I take James Dean veryyyyyyyyy seriously 😳 he's my idol my hero big fan .the greatest actors of alllllllllll time. 👍😎 James Dean was cool before the word cool was invented.😎😎😎
Sal Mineo, who plays Plato, said that Plato was the first ever portrayal of a gay teenager in film. So in other words, they WERE more than just roommates if you catch my drift...
@@PKMNFan4664 It says that he identified as Bi in an interview in the early 70's, but that he only dated men in the last few years of his life. either way he was certainly not straight.
Sal Mineo was gay in real life. Plato was meant to be seen as gay without having to say it. James... I mean, look at him. Look at him act. He _obviously_ got to screw around, being freaking James Dean.
I have an old friend who is gay. Great personality. Traditionally handsome. Our families spent summers together when we were growing up. I felt bad that I never asked if he was in a relationship, so in our twenties I did finally and he kind of half smiled and said being gay isn't like that, it's a lot of hookups and really lonely. It was heartbreaking. This compilation reminded me of that.
being gay is a lot of hookups because gay men still feel ashamed of who they are and they choose to hookup anonymously.. but its lonely either way. hookups or not!
I know James Dean is known for his looks, but I seriously never in my life seen a twenty something year old with that aged of a face. He looks like a forty year old man. He must've started smoking cigarettes at age three.
@@jamesalvarado3961 I know how old he was. It's just that look, I'm 28, and I work around people older than me, and none of them have faces like that. I've met people who resembled him but they were all in their forties or older. His face looks like a catchers mitt. Maybe it's the diet of today or the fact that we know smoking isn't healthy. I don't know. His face is rough. He looked almost like John Wayne.
“Stop forcing your sexuality onto James Dean” James Dean: *literally said he didn’t put himself into a sexual box and openly stated to basically be sexually fluid*
@ thoth hey. chill. everyone has a different experience with cinema and with history and culture. everyone is coming from a different context and level of education in any given area of study. not everyone is all that familiar with the history of cinema.
Do you know that the director for this movie actually prescribes James Dean and Sal (plato) to spend time together, because the director knew that Sal is gay, and James is Bi. The director wanted to have a good chemistry between the actors, James and Sal eventually fell for each other and was in a relationship. This was confirmed by the director himself. upon knowing that the two actors fell for one another, He actually wanted to put a scene where James and Plato Kiss each other, but the headstudio rejected the idea as it is too controversial. James Dean was such a fascinating person, I have never heard of him before yesterday, ive read two biographies of him today haha
blueberrycobbler I read that months ago, look them up in, its not like it is a secret that James Dean was sexually active with men, which part was it that you find it hard to believe?
Nooo...Not true..Sal was 16 in this movie..this was a Warner Brothers picture...The Censors were Extremely strict in the 1950s, more so than in the 30s...James was 24..Sal was 16..No way.. What is true is that they had Plato gay and looking for a father figure..at that time, the theory was that if you were missing your father in your life, you could turn out gay..hungering for male love..and James told the Director that Sal should look at him the way he looks at Natalie Wood..
@@sandrahernandez569 To be honest, I kinda think there's some truth to that theory, as I'm bisexual myself, had a disastrous relationship with my father, and I began crushing on a male professor of mine (I'm a college student) and I already had a history in high school of trying to get parent-type relationships with my teachers. Nevertheless, I don't see the boyfriend I have now as a father-like figure, really.
I feel like the milk scene could also be interpreted as Jim being stuck between adulthood and childhood. Like in the beginning, he’s trying to be grown up by getting drunk but he eventually embraces being young by drinking milk straight from the bottle.
What stuck out for me was how he rolled the milk bottle back and forth across his forehead to cool off. There was an unspoken eroticism in that scene, I have no doubt Dean improvised that.
we fuckin watched this in my 1950's Lit class in junior year of high school and I'm steppin into this film like ok cool yeah 1950's film it's gonna be probably weird but chill and then it just went and Did That, ripped my heart out and shit, and I'm just sittin in the class like bro, how could you betray me like this @ my fave lit teacher
I have no context for this movie. Just knew James Dean was in it. It was popular and James was/still is a heart throb. But I started crying when he said that. 😢 and now im going to find rebel without a cause and go watch it
Without even seeing the whole movie, one can feel the strong chemistry between the two. What a tragic end to something so beautiful between two people. But it reminds me of the old saying on namely on James Dean's part, " you don't miss a good thing (you never realize how much you loved [it/someone]) until they're gone.
Jimmy goes to walk into the girls bathroom but stops himself just before,then immediately heads to the boys bathroom where he sees Plato,subtext,that’s all I’m saying
@@Patrick3183 I know this is an old comment but how? Btw I'm not white and a bisexual myself. I am cisgender but I don't see how that means anything to my comment. If you have nothing nice or important to say don't.
James Dean and Sal Mineo had so much chemistry, arguably more so than James and Natalie in the movie. The fact that they were both gay/bi doesn't seem an accident as far as casting choices go.
James talked about wanting to portray a homosexual love affair explicitly, as did Sal. If you can believe it, the screenplay was even gayer and this was the toned down version for the Hollywood censors
I know there was a kiss between Sal and James in the script but I'm still scratching my head wondering where would it be located. Maybe somewhere in the mansion segment?
Jolyn Henry Same that’s what I was thinking as well 6:39 the way he’s standing close to him and his eyes and whole body just screams I WANT TO KISS JAMES DEAN 😍
The scene outside Jim's house makes sense, but I like the idea of it being in the night planetarium scene, with Plato in Jim's jacket and the stars spinning around them
The Jim Stark character was comfortable enough with his own sexuality to befriend his closeted gay classmate, the Plato character, who probably had a crush on Jim. Like the Jim, both the Judy character and Plato do not fit into the expectations of the time; they are all rebels who found each other - but ultimately, the expectations of the time won out. I think in high school or in college, we all had that one straight guy who befriended us and upon whom we developed a crush and we became best friends with him and his girlfriend. It is why we can relate to this storyline so much.
I’ve been waiting for this my whole damn life lmao-I didn’t know what it was about Plato when I watched the movie as a kid, but grew older I saw myself in him, it’s so wonderful to know the queerness was intentional and that Sal & James gave this rep to gayby me like wow they DID that. Thanks for this comp - was laughing at first but damn if the ending didn’t make me cry like it always does
I remember watching this when I was 12 and haven’t noticed that.. I’m full grown gay now and recently rewatched it and I was so surprised.. that’s why I liked the movie
I'm laughing at "full grown gay" for some reason????? first of all it feels like we're talking about an exotic species of animal or smth and second of all are any of us (gays) ever actually really grownups tbh
Remember the chicken race and the knife blade fight? James died in a drag race. Sal died getting stabbed. Edit: I made a slight mistake in James death, thanks for Gene below for pointing it out. James didn't die in a drag race, but rather, he died _driving_ to one. He always found car racing to be fun, and made it his hobby/another optional source of income. It was certainly tragic, with him being only 24, but he always said that he would like to die that way, while being young. Sal, on the other hand, turned to stage performance, and a few days after getting it on, he was mugged near his appartment and let to die. He never quite got over James' death (he never made it a secret that he had feelings for him), so, sure, their deaths where horrible, and the three main leads died in unnatural ways, but hey, if there is a place to go after fading, the three friends can still be a family wherever they are.
Excellent point- what Irony. Even more- there's the scene where Jim, Sal and Nat run into an empty pool in the abandoned mansion. Wood died by drowning in 1981. Their inevitable deaths, though revealed, are cryptic messages in this grim film.
I like what u said... in my mind Id like to think James & Sal met Natalie at the gates & james put his arm around her & said "kid, lemme buy u a drink. Youve had a rough night" and natalie said " drink? Here? " And Sal said " best milk youve ever tasted up here" ... And they all walked off into the sunset ..
Im 29. I saw this movie on turner classic movies one night when i was bored with nothing to watch in my late teens. The energy between James and Sal was immediately noticeable but I think my mind was playing tricks on me. Turns out I was right, and I’m glad I was. The chick (dont even know her name) wasnt even needed in this movie lol. Coulda just left her out. Anyways, Sal’s pretty dreamy
franksmith16 The “chick”was Natalie Wood. She died from drowning at age of 43, Sal Mineo was killed at age of 37, and James Dean died in auto accident at age 24. But I do agree that Natalie Wood’s role was to simply be the female between James Dean and Sal Mineo, to lessen any awareness of a possible connection between the 2 guys.
That "chick" was needed, so the two main characters could form a complete family - mother and father - to young Plato. Notice in the film how they mocked their parents. It was meant as a cautionary warning: look after your kids and love them unconditionally. Or you will lose them.
There may be a clue in the name of ‘Plato’ - after all it was the Ancient Greek Philosopher Plato who introduced to the world the notion of ‘platonic love’....
i was in a community theater production of the play when i was 17 and now i wear a leather jacket, have a fraught relationship with my parents, and kiss men. really makes you think!!!! thanks for the supercut so i can send it to my gay high school friends who were also in that play
I think that's a completely valid interpretation of their relationship, especially with the way it ends up being portrayed in the final cut of the film. With the consideration of the stuff that was going to be in the film and didn't make it, it makes the interpretation more difficult; they were initially scripted to kiss, which obviously complicates that. In any case, I don't think it's an either/or situation, but rather a complex (and not particularly healthy) in-between relationship where Plato finds both a father figure and a romantic partner wrapped into one person.
@@EmviloriamE people having their own distinct interpretation of the content doesn't prevent you from enjoying said content. @jamest681 has been polite and respectful in expressing their interpretation. Chill
Well he definitely had daddy issues. I think it may have been a little like Stan (or Stan was like Plato), where Stan was so obsessed with Eminem that he talked about wanting them to be together.
Even though James was the Hollywood heartthrob in the film, I think Sal Mineo was sooo cute. Also, an underrated stud of this film-the villain, Buzz. Hot!! Sad ending though…for him lol
"is he a friend of yours?"
" *gay panic* "
lmaooooooooo yes
He reminds me a lot of Cyrus from Andi Mack
Do you know that the director for this movie actually prescribes James Dean and Sal (plato) to spend time together, because the director knew that Sal is gay, and James is Bi. The director wanted to have a good chemistry between the actors, James and Sal eventually fell for each other and was in a relationship. This was confirmed by the director himself. upon knowing that the two actors fell for one another, He actually wanted to put a scene where James and Plato Kiss each other, but the headstudio rejected the idea as it is too controversial.
" You wanna come home with me"!!!!!!!!!!
farhan rafi thank you for the interesting information! Can’t you advise where can I read or watch about it?
Apparently in the mansion scene, Dean told Mineo to "look at me the way I look at Natalie (Judy)" and now im suffering from severe heart palpitations.
asdkhfklsjdhf shit bro
And I oop-
And I oop x2
What time?
Alhambragup this hurt my heart like I’m gonna die😭😭
"Not ready to come out yet?"
*gay panicking noises*
plato internally: wait shit does he know
@@JolynHenry the biggest question he asks
I caught that line in the movie too.
The many double entendres is uncanny 😱😱😱
Too relatable
If a movie has 18+ minutes of gay stuff it’s just a gay movie 🎥 👬
eatsgrass 😂😂 For real
rebel with a homosexual agenda tbh
was this considered gay during this era though or just natural common antics. I mean was there supposed to be a gay subtext or just friendship
@@roostersideburns3440 well they were both gay for each other IRL
@@xxkarlosxxxxxx7233 holy fuck really?
This film is the defenition of repressed. We love a gay cinematic masterpiece.
@@danelogan1532 do you know that they were originally scripted to kiss but the much-higher-ups were like You Can't Do That
@@JolynHenry Well homosexuality was still a crime in some states in the 50s soo...
@@SirFaceFone which is why they wouldn't let them be gay
@@JolynHenry “openly” gay. But still very gay.
@@carol3646
Wasn't there a rumor the three of them were involved behind the scenes too?
Plato is clearly gay and the way he admires James Dean's character reminds me of how I used to feel when I had my first girl love
But then we run into the unstable repressed homosexual trope
Same, that admiration, that one day you realize is love lol
@@sunflower2187 Exactly!
Both actors were bisexual
Unrelated but I love your Antoine Doinel pfp
I always thought Natalie Wood’s character was just an excuse to make the movie less gay than it should
I'm sure they wrote the script and then read it and were like Wait Shit this is really gay!! quick, throw a female love interest in there
You know how some TV shows will have that one character that's gay. It's exactly like that, but opposite. Lol
I love Natalie Wood but her character here was not it.
or to comment about the repression she faces at home, which is why she ends up being attracted to boys that are dangerous (her first boyfriend, james dean).
No, during the test screens it was pretty obvious that all three of them had really good chemistry with each other. Nothing wrong with a polyamory
James dean has BIG bisexual energy
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Was he actually bi or are you guys joking?
hyunjse covu cause I wouldn’t say he’s Bi for participating in a gangbang
@@francheska3128 (singing) it's not gay, if it's in a three-way,
dennismaryanski I wouldn’t call it a gangbang. Also, there have always been stories about Brando and Dean and how they had a small affair. They were both bi.
This is the most useful edit of Rebel Without a Cause that I've seen
it definitely makes it easier to write an essay about queer topics in this film
Jolyn Henry thank you , now i don't have to stress trough the movie when the only important parts are already neatly compiled here
No joke, when we were studying this film in class, our professor sent us a link to this video, as a learning material. He called it "a visual essay" on the queer subtext in the film.
@@Daydreamer-vb4ed dead serious?????????
@@JolynHenry Yes, dead serious.
Ah.. repressed homosexuality... Hollywood's glittery underbelly.
Lol. You want to see repressed homosexuality? Just look at male relationships today and how afraid they are of being real with each other. If you’re straight, you got nothing to hide
Honey I'm so sorry I misconstrued what you were saying, I thought you were the homophobe, I'm a fellow queen, native American. The aspersions toward homosexualty is fallible within itself. Closeted men love to hide. I'm gay but I will be careful to make sure I'll be safe.
Wow this thread turned into an emotional rollercoaster.
It was probably better when it wasn't as out and proud like it is now. I'm gay and even I get tired of the LGBT stuff, they've made being gay really boring.
@@chrisprusinowski5287 the peak of AIDS was when people didn't know what was causing it. they wouldn't have known that they were giving it to each other. and why are you even on this video?
No ones gonna talk about how he sniffed his jacket right in front of him?
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I bet James Dean smelled good.😊😊😊
@@valentinomays3654 like bisexuality and dakkor noir
People must not have noticed that then. Pretty obvious to me he was wanting him.
Time stamp ? Lol nevermind found it.
“What’s he like?”
*zooms in*
“I dunno.”
Panic attack in gay
how does this have 448 likes lmao
gay, he's gay
Plato was definitely gay.
He was & James was bi
@@s.e.landeros280 James was gay too, Elizabeth Taylor said it and I can totally see it on some of his photos, that look in his eyes is just too fabulous
@@holywater9425 Have you seen the pic of him pretending to uppercut Rock Hudson's junk? Quite telling...
@@VeryStupid4547 hmm no i didnt but i will check it out now lol
Theres rumors James Dean and Marlon Brando both were both bi in real life. But I think they meant Plato was meant to be gay in the movie as well.
"It's alright now. It's over, the world ended." That quote really resonated with me and I don't know why.
Sasha Wallace that quote makes me 🥺
same tbh
Reading this in quarantine is so funny
Because we know that even when this age ends, we’ll still be standing, life will go on regardless of the disaster. As a Christian that’s what I know to be true.
I don't care about the gay part only thing I care about I take James Dean veryyyyyyyyy seriously 😳 he's my idol my hero big fan .the greatest actors of alllllllllll time. 👍😎 James Dean was cool before the word cool was invented.😎😎😎
man, I did not know vintage gay is an aesthetic I would get attached to when I started off the new year but here we are
you fool. you absolute buffoon
give some names pls
So many 1950s Hollywood actors were closeted gay and bi!
@@wagnerfilho2602 watch strangers on a train or rope
lol I guess I just caught up
that scene in front of the garage,, straight up thought they were about to kiss
Analina Barnes that would’ve been the perfect scene it too. IT...SHOULD’VE...HAPPENED!!😍😍
I THINK that's where the kiss was scripted originally?? if I had to guess anyway
@@JolynHenry there was a kiss scripted???
@@pamelahoney874 I highly doubt it.
Sal Mineo, who plays Plato, said that Plato was the first ever portrayal of a gay teenager in film. So in other words, they WERE more than just roommates if you catch my drift...
oh my god they were roommates......
It's obviously clear that both had great affection for each other on an off the screen. One must be blind not to see this.
@@cvb6957 I’m blind they were great actors! They can make you believe anything…
@@buckoneal691 why would they be acting off screen…
@@forksntorches3587 its called method acting
"Not ready to come out yet?"
"No"
aww plato is so cute
ALSO THE WAY HE HOLDS THAT JACKET OMG
plato is a fkin cutie pie
Who's the top? Oh never mind I already know.
Yea omg the hiding messages !! The underlying message of this movie was sooo big back then, it was definitely about homosexuality.
Time stamp?
Director: Bisexual
Lead: Bisexual
Supporting: Bisexual
Also the director made Johnny Guitar. The second gayest mainstream film of the 50's behind this
@@MrPOKER725 he was quite open about him being bi but okayyy
Jolyn Henry it’s a great channel love the content
@@CitizenKane380 A lot of his friends and colleagues say he was at least bi, Liz Taylor who starred alongside him in the movie giant, said he was gay.
I thought Sal Mineo was bi, not gay?
@@PKMNFan4664 It says that he identified as Bi in an interview in the early 70's, but that he only dated men in the last few years of his life. either way he was certainly not straight.
People 40 years ago : James dean is such a lady’s man
People today: no fucking way he’s straight
r u sure abt that?
people 40 years ago people today
🤝
James Dean is bisexual
@@JolynHenry Only cool people 40 years ago knew that, but everyone now knows it.
He was GAY!!!!!
He's Straighter than a Grizzly Dick ...
"if only you couldve been my dad" ohh you could call him your daddy
👀👀👀
I choked
@@xanthe4547 u need some help bud
4:11 I had to re watch this part cuz at first I heard him say "eight O'clock?...... Gay"
I fuckin swEAR like bro you gotta tone down the vocalization of that velar stop pal
Omg same!
I cought that first time
It was the "Brokeback mountain" of its time.
but without any actual fucking :(
@@JolynHenry the tension is still there tho..thats something. 50s America was not prepared for such a scene to be crafted
@@vicdrose I'll definitely give it credit
Brokebutt Mountain is a joke
we stan two (2) bisexual kings
Sal Mineo was gay in real life. Plato was meant to be seen as gay without having to say it.
James... I mean, look at him. Look at him act. He _obviously_ got to screw around, being freaking James Dean.
Pluto was not bisexual.
He was clearly gay (as far as we know anyway).
@@SirEriol Didn't Mineo say he was openly bisexual?
@@SirEriol james is confirmed bisexual lmaoo
We absolutely stan
For its time it was one of the most tragic movies...in real life at the time young Sal Mineo fell in love with James Dean,who he was quite fond of.
Sal out here taking method acting a little too seriously
I think he died during or right after this
Wait for real?
@@ryanallen2647 He died before the movie was released
@@natashaavital8713 thx I couldn't rember
James Dean saying to Sal Mineo:
“You’re not ready to come out yet?” Made me laugh
It's literally not even subtext it's just text
I have an old friend who is gay. Great personality. Traditionally handsome. Our families spent summers together when we were growing up. I felt bad that I never asked if he was in a relationship, so in our twenties I did finally and he kind of half smiled and said being gay isn't like that, it's a lot of hookups and really lonely. It was heartbreaking. This compilation reminded me of that.
I have been with my partner for over 46 years now - Never lonely
All the men I've attracted in my life have been "straight" and it's heart breaking cuz they see in denial most of the time
being gay is a lot of hookups because gay men still feel ashamed of who they are and they choose to hookup anonymously.. but its lonely either way. hookups or not!
That's great to hear.@@michaelsweenie-lane359
Keep putting yourself out there, it's the only way, my friend.@@blackreazor
Ugh, the color makes it 100 percent better, it shows out the actresses and actors true beauty.
I'm wheezing
WTF is "shows out"?
@@jamesmcinnis208
You know what they meant. They probably didn’t proof read and accidentally combined “shows” with “brings out”.
@@asecretchannel4135 Thanks for the explanation. I really did not know what they meant but thank you also for the accusation.
@@jamesmcinnis208no you knew!!!! You knew it and how dare you.
“You’re not ready to come out yet?” - meeeeee
me
Their ship name is jimto
Bts Army I LOVE AND SHIP IT 😍😍😍😍
jimto. what about plim
@@JolynHenry nah starkford (last names stark + crawford)
I know James Dean is known for his looks, but I seriously never in my life seen a twenty something year old with that aged of a face. He looks like a forty year old man. He must've started smoking cigarettes at age three.
Really?? I don't think he looks that old. He was only 24
@@jamesalvarado3961 I know how old he was. It's just that look, I'm 28, and I work around people older than me, and none of them have faces like that. I've met people who resembled him but they were all in their forties or older. His face looks like a catchers mitt. Maybe it's the diet of today or the fact that we know smoking isn't healthy. I don't know. His face is rough. He looked almost like John Wayne.
Look up Hank William's Sr and how old he looked when he passed in his late 20s.
NIIIIQQ yeah he looked really old
Now he dont look that old. Maybe mid 20s or late
My boy James Dean was a repressed bi and he exudes so much energy here BOI
I don't think he was that repressed...
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“Stop forcing your sexuality onto James Dean”
James Dean: *literally said he didn’t put himself into a sexual box and openly stated to basically be sexually fluid*
👀👀👀
Are you quoting yourself? And what does that quote mean?
Dummy
No what he said was he had never put is sexual fluid in anybody's sexual box.
Really? What's the actual quote? Because I very much doubt anyone on the 1950's would have used the term 'sexually fluid'.
I’m cryin in the club rn
u want a tissue
Bless you for this cut of the film. You're out here doing the gay Lord's work.
@Robinson Pittman ,what you on?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelgaynor6866 Something good!!!
Is the gay lord Apollo because that was a pretty gay God
You out here making Hozier proud
Robinson Pittman Broo wtfff😭😂
Who wouldn't I kill to have James Dean give me his jacket? 😂
😂😂😂
Plato?😂😂
@@kidzbopkaren8342 what is he worth in the face of such beauty? 😂
James Dean?
it does look p warm
Yep. Great performance by Sal Mineo who played it too well. He was seemed hot for Dean.
it is well-known that he was gay.
@Adrienne Gurge right. he was WAY ahead of his time!
@Ed Miller there are people on UA-cam who don't speak English as their primary language!!
Beautiful cinema ❤
great performances all around tbh
James Dean keeps trying to give his guy his jacket
" Here.. It's warm... Like me"
😌😌😌😌😌
he'd rather just wrap himself around Plato tbh
i have no idea what this movie is or what it’s about but as a lesbian I can confirm the homosexual activity
how the fuck can you not know about Rebel Without a Cause!? Do you have zero knowledge of cinema!?
wormfriend agreed.😍😍
@ thoth hey. chill. everyone has a different experience with cinema and with history and culture. everyone is coming from a different context and level of education in any given area of study. not everyone is all that familiar with the history of cinema.
I’m reading comments in shook- I had no idea really
This comment Is just pure Energy
Do you know that the director for this movie actually prescribes James Dean and Sal (plato) to spend time together, because the director knew that Sal is gay, and James is Bi. The director wanted to have a good chemistry between the actors, James and Sal eventually fell for each other and was in a relationship. This was confirmed by the director himself. upon knowing that the two actors fell for one another, He actually wanted to put a scene where James and Plato Kiss each other, but the headstudio rejected the idea as it is too controversial.
James Dean was such a fascinating person, I have never heard of him before yesterday, ive read two biographies of him today haha
farhan rafi Source your statements..
blueberrycobbler I read that months ago, look them up in, its not like it is a secret that James Dean was sexually active with men, which part was it that you find it hard to believe?
Sal Mineo was bisexual, not gay.
Nooo...Not true..Sal was 16 in this movie..this was a Warner Brothers picture...The Censors were Extremely strict in the 1950s, more so than in the 30s...James was 24..Sal was 16..No way..
What is true is that they had Plato gay and looking for a father figure..at that time, the theory was that if you were missing your father in your life, you could turn out gay..hungering for male love..and James told the Director that Sal should look at him the way he looks at Natalie Wood..
@@sandrahernandez569 To be honest, I kinda think there's some truth to that theory, as I'm bisexual myself, had a disastrous relationship with my father, and I began crushing on a male professor of mine (I'm a college student) and I already had a history in high school of trying to get parent-type relationships with my teachers. Nevertheless, I don't see the boyfriend I have now as a father-like figure, really.
I feel like the milk scene could also be interpreted as Jim being stuck between adulthood and childhood. Like in the beginning, he’s trying to be grown up by getting drunk but he eventually embraces being young by drinking milk straight from the bottle.
I think you're on to something here tbh
No it represented semen , clear and simple.
JLove@TheLounge no
What stuck out for me was how he rolled the milk bottle back and forth across his forehead to cool off. There was an unspoken eroticism in that scene, I have no doubt Dean improvised that.
"He’s always cold" that was heartbreaking.. 💔💔
we fuckin watched this in my 1950's Lit class in junior year of high school and I'm steppin into this film like ok cool yeah 1950's film it's gonna be probably weird but chill and then it just went and Did That, ripped my heart out and shit, and I'm just sittin in the class like bro, how could you betray me like this @ my fave lit teacher
what's the time stamp pls ?
@@saw_kon 18:07
@@JolynHenry thank u so much
I have no context for this movie. Just knew James Dean was in it. It was popular and James was/still is a heart throb. But I started crying when he said that. 😢 and now im going to find rebel without a cause and go watch it
Sal Mineo was so cute.
just a babey boy.... a cutie pie tm
@@Nikes62 I know the feeling. I was sixteen when I first saw The Outsiders -- and had a HUGE crush on both C. Thomas Howell and Ralph Macchio.
Without even seeing the whole movie, one can feel the strong chemistry between the two. What a tragic end to something so beautiful between two people. But it reminds me of the old saying on namely on James Dean's part, " you don't miss a good thing (you never realize how much you loved [it/someone]) until they're gone.
the ending fucking gets me like it's just fkin heartbreaking
You haven’t seen it, but you saw this and made up your mind so the narrative that you want to see is confirmed? Sheesh.
“He’s always cold” almost made me CRY THANKS
when you have that one friend that's always cold
Jolyn Henry I am that friend
@@Paul-jv5kw you're always cold.. but I'll be damned if you're not my friend
Jimmy goes to walk into the girls bathroom but stops himself just before,then immediately heads to the boys bathroom where he sees Plato,subtext,that’s all I’m saying
I can't for the life of me figure out the deeper meaning behind that particular sequence of events
I love a bisexual in a polyamorous relationship. An icon
reminds me of sense8 with kala, wolfgang, and rajan
Such a white female cishet thing to say
@@Patrick3183 I know this is an old comment but how? Btw I'm not white and a bisexual myself. I am cisgender but I don't see how that means anything to my comment. If you have nothing nice or important to say don't.
That's NOT the storyline 🤦♂️
I didn’t know how badly I needed this in my life
Megan M ikr
I did
The puppy love is too adorable.
big heart eyes
i typed in "chaotic bisexual energy" and this came up lmfao
I'm literally honored by youtube's mystifying search algorithm
“The gay sh!t” (as you put it) comprise my _most favorite_ parts of the film. To quote Oliver Twist, “Please, sir, I want some more...”. 😜
Right there with you amigo
"Ahhhaaa; our line of business, pays a little bet-er , don't it boys?"
I don't know how to respond to this
Uy goloso 😂😂
@@JolynHenry I bet you don't shake my damn head
Was he really always cold or was that his excuse to steal the jacket
Jim is the one who kept offering it to him, Pluto never asked for it.
Erebma Dammahom if you watched the movie he asked for it towards the end
@@Paul-jv5kw oh you're right. My bad lol
you saw right through his ruse
James Dean and Sal Mineo had so much chemistry, arguably more so than James and Natalie in the movie. The fact that they were both gay/bi doesn't seem an accident as far as casting choices go.
good casting fs
Her character served no purpose whatsoever, other than to try to “sanitize” the relationship between Plato and James.
James talked about wanting to portray a homosexual love affair explicitly, as did Sal. If you can believe it, the screenplay was even gayer and this was the toned down version for the Hollywood censors
I know there was a kiss between Sal and James in the script but I'm still scratching my head wondering where would it be located. Maybe somewhere in the mansion segment?
I don't know for sure but if it were up to me I'd have put it at the gate/garage to Jim's house like around 6:18
Omg when they turn their heads around and make a pause before Plato says goodbye! You're right that must be it
Jolyn Henry Same that’s what I was thinking as well 6:39 the way he’s standing close to him and his eyes and whole body just screams I WANT TO KISS JAMES DEAN 😍
My guess is 6:50
The scene outside Jim's house makes sense, but I like the idea of it being in the night planetarium scene, with Plato in Jim's jacket and the stars spinning around them
The Jim Stark character was comfortable enough with his own sexuality to befriend his closeted gay classmate, the Plato character, who probably had a crush on Jim. Like the Jim, both the Judy character and Plato do not fit into the expectations of the time; they are all rebels who found each other - but ultimately, the expectations of the time won out. I think in high school or in college, we all had that one straight guy who befriended us and upon whom we developed a crush and we became best friends with him and his girlfriend. It is why we can relate to this storyline so much.
The zoom in at the photo on Plato's locker 💀💀💀
Just guy things ❤️
1:38 So he keeps a photo of Cary Grant in his locker? That's gaf right there.
Fruity as fuck
I’ve been waiting for this my whole damn life lmao-I didn’t know what it was about Plato when I watched the movie as a kid, but grew older I saw myself in him, it’s so wonderful to know the queerness was intentional and that Sal & James gave this rep to gayby me like wow they DID that. Thanks for this comp - was laughing at first but damn if the ending didn’t make me cry like it always does
Jolyn Henry life’s a Bitch but I’m a queen #buryyourgays
"life's a bitch but I'm a queen" what a fuckin Statement
I remember watching this when I was 12 and haven’t noticed that.. I’m full grown gay now and recently rewatched it and I was so surprised.. that’s why I liked the movie
I'm laughing at "full grown gay" for some reason????? first of all it feels like we're talking about an exotic species of animal or smth and second of all are any of us (gays) ever actually really grownups tbh
How long have you known Plato?
James Dean: Since last night. But we didnt do much talking 😎
hah! it's funny because the implication is that they were having SEX
Time spawn?
@@serenamontelius5752 what
@@JolynHenry They meant time stamp
@@psyolytesaille that makes more sense
anyone: why is Rebel your favorite movie?
me: *links to this video*
me: cause it's gay, karen
“i couldn’t even s w a l l o w till recess 😃”
I almost didn't put that in there cause it's the dad so like gross but... fuck dude
This is my boyfriend Jim and his boyfriend Plato
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"We could sneek around abd nobody would know"
Holy FUCK
like???? they can't just put lines like that in the movie!! fuck!!!!!
‘Is he a friend of yours ?’ He looked at her and said ‘bitch back off’ 😂❤️
(nervously trying to stake his own claim on this himbo)
I'm still laughing at this 2 years later.
this story's concept is so sweet... they rlly dont dive like this anymore
idk mang there's some modern gems wrt story
Thank you for your service
🙏🙌
7:21 mood
SAME
Jarred Knox No
Jarred Knox why are you such a fucking buzzkill
mood
Remember the chicken race and the knife blade fight?
James died in a drag race. Sal died getting stabbed.
Edit: I made a slight mistake in James death, thanks for Gene below for pointing it out. James didn't die in a drag race, but rather, he died _driving_ to one. He always found car racing to be fun, and made it his hobby/another optional source of income. It was certainly tragic, with him being only 24, but he always said that he would like to die that way, while being young.
Sal, on the other hand, turned to stage performance, and a few days after getting it on, he was mugged near his appartment and let to die. He never quite got over James' death (he never made it a secret that he had feelings for him), so, sure, their deaths where horrible, and the three main leads died in unnatural ways, but hey, if there is a place to go after fading, the three friends can still be a family wherever they are.
cursed
He wasn't in a drag race. He was just out driving fast by himself.
@@genedryer-bivins8314 Thanks, pal! Already fixed it.
Excellent point- what Irony. Even more- there's the scene where Jim, Sal and Nat run into an empty pool in the abandoned mansion. Wood died by drowning in 1981. Their inevitable deaths, though revealed, are cryptic messages in this grim film.
I like what u said... in my mind Id like to think James & Sal met Natalie at the gates & james put his arm around her & said "kid, lemme buy u a drink. Youve had a rough night" and natalie said " drink? Here? " And Sal said " best milk youve ever tasted up here" ... And they all walked off into the sunset ..
A man taking another man's warm jacket in the old days was definitely a "yes let's be gay together" thing straights didn't know about.
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13:15
"- Not ready to come out yet ?
- No.
- No ? Okay. I promise you nothing'll happen if you do"
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2:05 is my favorit part. Just amazing.
(Also, "Fishing" *zooms on his face* Wonderful.)
"fishing" gives me flashback to Brokeback Mountain
Im 29. I saw this movie on turner classic movies one night when i was bored with nothing to watch in my late teens. The energy between James and Sal was immediately noticeable but I think my mind was playing tricks on me. Turns out I was right, and I’m glad I was. The chick (dont even know her name) wasnt even needed in this movie lol. Coulda just left her out. Anyways, Sal’s pretty dreamy
franksmith16 The “chick”was Natalie Wood. She died from drowning at age of 43, Sal Mineo was killed at age of 37, and James Dean died in auto accident at age 24. But I do agree that Natalie Wood’s role was to simply be the female between James Dean and Sal Mineo, to lessen any awareness of a possible connection between the 2 guys.
not here for Judy erasure tbh. but yeah tho
@@boborrahood damn
@@lusidsteamteamcaptain Okay, I just added to my comment, a year later..
That "chick" was needed, so the two main characters could form a complete family - mother and father - to young Plato. Notice in the film how they mocked their parents. It was meant as a cautionary warning: look after your kids and love them unconditionally. Or you will lose them.
I could probably see them all having a 3some with dean in the middle
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Plato has some daddy issues going on here.. lol
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"Gimme that gun in your pocket."
Is that a gun in your pocket or are you-- oh ok it's a gun. Ok
I have to give this so much credit for treating his death with such emotion.
^^^ me too- he's just a fuckin /kid/ man
Dionysus that’s cause he really felt that lmao. The attraction between the actors was known on the DL
James Dean is a registered bisexual according to WikiPedia😂
registered and everything damn I guess he must have his bisexual license and shit
Oh to be an officially registered bisexual 💙💜❤
How does one register...? The DMV. .? Or at Macy's like with the gift registry...?
Asking for a friend...😏
2:10 I love how he checks to make sure he’s going into the boys room lmao
He almost goes into the women's room first lol
With a title like this; how could I afford not to click?
my ferret's title-typing capabilities have not failed me yet
I love James Dean so much ohmygod this is literally a masterpiece
like what a fucking SNACK tbh
I GOT THE BULLETSSSSSS
that's the sound of my heart breaking
They should go fishing at brokeback mountain. I just hope they don't eat all the fish they catch and bring some back home 😉
I mean one of them's already gonna die anyway so why not
have u seen the chemistry test tapes between them that were made pre-shooting the show?? honestly it's crazy
I haven't and I can only Imagine
where are they?
Dude I would go bi for him, just look at him
anyone who says they wouldn't is lying to you or themselves
They looks so cute together, you'd think Natalie was a third wheel.
Really kinda seems like that huh
That is one of the funniest titles ever "Rebel without a cause BUT ITS JUST THE GAY SHIT" 😂 i can't
This is done so well. I think I have to see the film again. Thank you, I know how much time & energy it can take to get this done this concisely.
Luckily I had a lot of free time back when I made this
Sal Mineo was so adorable here!
serious qt son
The dynamic trio in this is everything I want. ❤️
why can't I just be part of a dreamy bisexual poly??
@@JolynHenry you and me both 😩💕
There may be a clue in the name of ‘Plato’ - after all it was the Ancient Greek Philosopher Plato who introduced to the world the notion of ‘platonic love’....
you know what you might actually have a point here
Sal Mineo said he was bisexual in his biography and James Dean was known to be sexually ambiguous
boom, vindication
a kiss here wouldve felt right in place 6:50
it felt less natural that they DIDN'T kiss than it would have if they HAD kissed lmfao
@@JolynHenry true
They did it was cut
I love that goofy laugh james does when he grabs platos nose lol
"heuhuehuhh"
Literally never seen this film before but that ending made me cry
it's worth seeing just for the cultural context
i was in a community theater production of the play when i was 17 and now i wear a leather jacket, have a fraught relationship with my parents, and kiss men. really makes you think!!!! thanks for the supercut so i can send it to my gay high school friends who were also in that play
did the play make you gay or did it bring out the gay that was there all along??? a mystery
bless you and this video.
bless you and this comment
I thought James Dean was more of a father figure for Plato. It seemed Plato was looking for a father figure since his father was absent.
I think that's a completely valid interpretation of their relationship, especially with the way it ends up being portrayed in the final cut of the film.
With the consideration of the stuff that was going to be in the film and didn't make it, it makes the interpretation more difficult; they were initially scripted to kiss, which obviously complicates that. In any case, I don't think it's an either/or situation, but rather a complex (and not particularly healthy) in-between relationship where Plato finds both a father figure and a romantic partner wrapped into one person.
Please, don't ruin the video. Thanks.
@@EmviloriamE people having their own distinct interpretation of the content doesn't prevent you from enjoying said content. @jamest681 has been polite and respectful in expressing their interpretation. Chill
@@awildpiizaroll 😂😂😂
Well he definitely had daddy issues. I think it may have been a little like Stan (or Stan was like Plato), where Stan was so obsessed with Eminem that he talked about wanting them to be together.
"just all the gay shit"
*James Dean chugging milk*
IM CACKLING
I'm a gay and I drink an unholy amount of milk, what can I say
Even though James was the Hollywood heartthrob in the film, I think Sal Mineo was sooo cute.
Also, an underrated stud of this film-the villain, Buzz. Hot!! Sad ending though…for him lol