I played TRADITIONAL GRIP for 7 days and this happened!
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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Thank you Whiplash for inspiring the 7 Day Traditional Grip Challenge! Thank you so much for watching!
00:00 Intro
01:41 Drumeo Drum Lesson- Traditional Grip
04:57 DAY 1- Hand Technique
06:10 DAY 2- Rudiment
08:32 DAY 3- Complex Rudiments
09:52 DAY 4- Strength & Speed
11:18 DAY 5- Drum Kit Movement
13:47 DAY 6- Practice Song
15:22 DAY 7- Traditional Grip Drum Cover
17:44 Final Thoughts
19:00 Outro
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First a 7 day playing left-handed challenge, now a 7 day playing with traditional grip challenge. Dude you really challenged yourself my man
Think of it this way its natural progression toward being an ambidextrous drummer. Meaning he gonna have the big kit one day just you watch.
I was taught traditional grip originally. I still play traditional. My professor at the conservatory hated that I played it. His argument was logical i.e. you don't trad timpani/etc etc but on set and snare? Yeah no prob. Whether or not he was right it doesn't matter. I still play trad and am happy
Yo bro you did a great job in 7 days! I have been learning the traditional grip for like 3 months but didn't get this good though. By the way, whenever you feel comfortable, try covering the Caravan which was at the end of the 'Whiplash' movie.
All the best for your future projects! :D
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I think one of the things that help him is that he mentioned he originally learned Traditional grip. Even though he had to relearn the balance and technique he already had the basics.
That alone makes a difference. To be honest I learned traditional grip but never used the open hand technique and was never taught finding the rebound balance using open hand /thumb.
The greatest drummer in my opinion of all time is Buddy Rich. He never from what I have ever seen used an open hand in his traditional grip. 8+ min drum solo can be seen here.ua-cam.com/video/nxN-wN0LW3o/v-deo.html
I play snare in marching percussion and seeing your immediate reaction to your ring finger hurting made me remember back to my first band camp when I got a blister the size of my fingernail on the side of my ring finger. It was full week of 8 hour days and we were playing 90% of the time so my finger was not too happy with me after the first 2 days. You are supposed to create a fulcrum between your ring finger and pointer finger around the stick for the most control, so the pain in the beginning is a sign of proper technique. Letting the rebound of the stick dictate the motion can make it very difficult to control the stick, and by proxy makes it far harder to consistently play something with a good height and velocity. While you don't need to follow this for drumset traditional, this marching approach is the best way to get the most control with traditional, so if you want to play the best traditional grip you should follow marching percussion technique. As for the blister / finger pain, it goes away with time so don't worry about it. However, you shouldn't play all day everyday despite the pain because then it won't heal. It'll only heal while there is no friction and will only get worse the more you play if you don't give it time to heal. Once a callous forms though you'll be good and won't have to worry about the pain as there should be pretty much none.
Also, a little tip that might help is to wrap the finger in electrical tape or a bandaid if you need to practice despite the pain. Bandaids may not stay on so that's why electrical tape is there, just make sure you don't put the electrical tape on too tight as that will cause your finger to loose circulation and it won't be too comfortable.
Anyways, I loved the video, keep it up!
(Also you should try marching percussion, I think it would be a pretty good video)
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Hey thanks for chipping in! I haven't played drums in years unfortunately, but the callout of using your index and ring fingers is spot on. While you can play with only the grip of the thumb, you're limiting yourself from so many techniques possible when utilizing them. One of the first things my drum teacher showed me when I first started taking lessons was how he could get a constant tapping with his left hand without (technically) using a single stroke. Just practice using your index finger to push the stick down a little and you've got so much control on the stick.
if theres anyone here wanting to try traditional grip try also try adding time to watch marching percussion specifically the battery like the snares or tenors/quads, watch the snares to watch how they use there muscles to play traditional on marching snare and watch the quads and how they do the arounds on the drums like the sweeps crossovers etc and try to mix it togethor on the kit
Interesting sharing! I used to use traditional grip while marching and carrying the snare back in school
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Wow Brother You are amazing, And in 4 days, you managed to master it, greetings
Me too Alejandro! I was really good using traditional grip but I felt better on the kit playing matched grip. It's taken years and years to get my left hand even close to my right hand and now I can't even play traditional grip very well at all. Maybe it's time to try again. 🥁❤️
the pain of the left ring finger is real man, props for pushing through
Nice job! I am a traditional grip player! So thanks for sharing this information!
Bravo chief! Good video, humble
Learning DCI or Pipe Band drumming will increase any drum kit players skills beyond belief. Even if you go back to matched grip afterwards, you'll have learned: Moller method, incredible dynamics techniques for both hands, perfect rolls in every category (buzz rolls, open rolls - every stroke number), individual finger technique to control the sticks with ridiculous finesse, perfect flams, better timing, and correct accent techniques. Too many kit drummers stop at limb independence, and never really work on hand/finger technique, so their snare playing is lazy, one-dimensional, or never really complements the whole kit sound the way it should. Seriously - rather than having biased ideas about traditional grip, kit players should take a workshop that covers all the important DCI/pipe band techniques because it will include work with the right hand, as well, and the lessons carry over if traditional grip doesn't "stick" with you and you go back to matched grip. Take it from a long-time kit player.
Try to keep your fingers on the stick so you can keep control of the stick. You can let the stick rest on your ring finger and stop the stick with your pointer finger. The only time you should take any fingers off the stick is when you're playing rolls, in which case you take your pointer and middle fingers off the stick.
Also, it is actually a good thing to hold the stick further back in your hand. Hold both sticks and point them up at the same height, putting your thumbs next to each other. The tips of your thumbs should be about an inch apart. That will give you the most rebound and control of your stick.
You also have to rest your thumb on top of your Pointer finger.
You can take the fingers off when playing loud, plenty of control
When I was in DCI, the idea was that you hold the stick like you're flipping someone the finger. That action meant the rest of your fingers touched the stick (lightly) and established the fulcrum. From there you got the agility and power.
All through high-school I had to do this. Now I can in my sleep good job.
Whole new vibe with traditional. Great players mix the two.
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Traditional grip is what i normally play on drums, and i really love that side snare sound though.
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before i got to play the drums my drum teacher made me go through a whole year of learning Traditional grip on a snare drum lmao (note: i was like 9) then once i went to play the drums (mostly rock style which i prefered) he allowed me to play match grip due to it being easier to go around the drums
dont get him wrong, he plays also uses both styles ( depending on the use case)
but match grip is so much easier to learn (since its just mirroring the right hand) that being able to play traditional grip will give you so much more freedom
the best Drummers know how and when to switch between each grip style
And now you're going to say goodbye match grip and hello traditional grip
Ginger Baker 90% of the time played traditional grip. He played rock but loved jazz and so did Jack Bruce. Bruce once made a statement that "Ginger and I where playing jazz but didn't tell Eric." A blues player with a jazz flare. Cream was named Cream as the best part of milk rising to the top. They were appropriately named. RESPECT!
Buddy Rich only played Traditional
@@chrish7336 That's not necessarily true. Rich would move in and out of match grip when needed. This clip of Caravan he transitions to match at the 50 second mark and keeps it for the rest of the solo. ua-cam.com/video/_ug_fes1fEI/v-deo.html
I think Rich's problem was with drummers that ONLY used match.
@@scottstarck293 Thanks for that Video, That's the first I have seen of him using matched, at least while still sitting at the set
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I think you should try marching percussion. Would be a great video.
Very cool video! I'm now inspired to learn traditional grip
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Very NICE Thank you so much. I would have liked to see you play the same song with match grip in the end. To comapare. But thats not important, really. Im going to try learning trad a little better thanks to you.
firee, im trying to learn traditional grip
I’d recommend curling your index finger and middle finger over the stick for more control! Think about attaching your thumb to your curved index finger. Great vid!
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Absolutely not my friend. He's doing it exactly the right way for the best stick control. He will lost some dexterity in his mechanics and will actually lost control of his sticks more if he starts using his other fingers for anything but a guide for his up and down motion. In other words, his playing would be prone to be a little sloppy. I play both ways, trad and match, but learned trad first and grip just like this guy is and never had any issues with stick control. Watch the old masters like Buddy Rich or Louie Bellson and you'll see they don't curl their fingers around the left stick.
@@jimo3173 do me a favor and search up how to learn traditional grip on UA-cam. I guarantee you will see what I’m suggesting in the top videos. Ofc the control and movement comes from the webbing of the thumb (fulcrum), but those fingers play a big part in control. Maybe it’s different for marching percussion, but I see plenty of professional drum set players have those fingers over the stick.
@@joshuatullius6118 Fortunately for this guy he learned the right way and not the wrong way from youtube videos like you would suggest ;)
I'd think you'd tilt the snare a little bit when using traditional grip. Good job!
see my whole issue with traditional grip comes from my 5th and 6th grade band director, he would chew you out if you used anything but traditional grip on any non-mallet based percussion instrument like we were all gonna be part of Jazz band or the marching band where that grip is either more commonplace or makes playing actually easier considering traditional grip was used for drummer boys during war to be able to issue orders to troops over longer distances and the way the drum would be carried at that time made playing that much easier
he did it because its infinitely better
My instructor taught us to use it and I've tried it while marching and carrying the snare
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Depending on the set up of the Snare, Traditional may not be the best. Marching bands (80's on) normally have a level Drum head which can make it a little more challenging with Traditional Grip. If you look at the older Fife/Drum corps that carried their drums on slings the drum head was always at an angle and moved, had no choice but to use Traditional grip.
IDK, I'm just a beginner sure, but switching between traditional and mallet was super easy, as soon as I saw someone do it I was like "oh, that's an interesting way to hold the sticks." and was able to completely replicate it. Ig it is just because I'm a beginner
Good job buddy, I know this is not easy to control....Well done
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You were playing drums since you were 9 years old? Dang bro you had yourself a drum journey.
Hey cool video. I got Strike pro se few months back. Favorite e kit I ever owned. I have had TD50 and Mimic pro. I'm curious. I can't play acoustic drums anymore due to having bad acoufanos. 😫 when I had acoustic I had DW collectors. Why did you go for junior cousin PDP?
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Hey Alejandro! I’m a drummer from VA! I take percussion and play traditional grip frequently. This vid was great. One thing I would recommend was buying marching sticks. There thicker which makes traditional grip much easier. Love your vids bro, keep it up on your way to one mil! I’m almost to one hundred subs!
I actually don’t recommend that for normal drums since marching sticks have a higher chance to damage the drums/drum heads if they’re not marching drums.
@@nevadakid1000 So True, My dad had a set of 68 Gretsch that had an original drum head for over 20 years. Brother got it, started using marching band sticks destroyed the head in 1 sitting and shattered all the original classic Zildjian cymbals.
Trap sets are not designed for those heavy sticks especially if a heavy hitter as well.
Bro @Alejandro Sifuentes what was the title of the song you covered
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Interesting. A VERY long time ago I played for a while in the high school band (French Horn). I used to laugh when the band instructor would fuss at the drummers and promise to make them march around the football field banging a bass drum with a wet sock for the afternoon if he caught them "fisting" their left hand. The funny thing is that the drummers that played in the band for two or three years using the traditional grip said they not only wouldn't, but couldn't use a fisted left hand without loosing a certain amount of control over complex rhythms. Jene Krupa, one of the most renowned drummers of the 1930s and 40s big band era (falsely accused of being hyped up on stimulants to be able to play like he did) NEVER used anything but a traditional grip (or stimulants).
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Why was the screen different on day 4.
Man i recommend the Jojo Mayer video for both grips
Me who’s been playing traditional grip all my drum life ( 5 1/2 years )
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My drum teacher always said to keep all fingers on the left hand with traditional grip to get a better stick control and rebound.
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You are practicing with accents. Isn‘t it supposed to be same volume unaccented too?
Or is this more marching style and not so much applicable for drums?
Adaption day 3 happens pretty fast, cool.
In Whiplash, he played traditional grip. Unfortunately, has no concept of the Moeller technique. He struggled way too hard playing the speed that was demanded. Watch a buddy rich video, Joe Morello, or JoJo Mayer video. they play stuff twice as fast, with alot less effort. The guy was just a average stage drummer. I'm glad it inspired you.
Great Buddy Rich example here. ua-cam.com/video/nxN-wN0LW3o/v-deo.html
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I'm not gonna lie I thought you were a jazz drummer. What type of genre would you mainly play then?
For years tradition grip now matched.
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Does anyone know what song he plays?
Duke Ellington's Caravan
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The funny thing is that some other drummers have not watched whiplash including me
What’s the song name
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Hold on bro wasn't Steve Smith using the traditional grip for his separate ways drum cover.
Steve Smith wrote the drums for that song. He switches back and forth from trad to match for different parts of the song.
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Imagine how disappointing it is for someone who can’t even get the left hand moving with *matched* grip! 🤦🏻♀️ You were at least half way there! 😁
Why this UA-cam Channel is in english and there is another Channel with the same name and is in spanish??
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Don’t clamp your thumb down hard on the left hand, it creates tension
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I could only use traditional. Couldn’t get comfortable with match.
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Bro you had to forget the times you were doing the traditional grip
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put your pointer finger over the stick and the thumb bro
Great job but better stick with the modern grip
Technically that's true, if you want to play something new, then you need to step out of your comfort zone.
traditional grip pulls bitches
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The thumbnail should be changed. The suit should be before and the regular shit should be after the terrible grip.
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are you mentally impaired?
@@growskull no
Were you playing a drum kit when you were 9.
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You could've practiced for 14 days instead of 7 bro.
What are you talking about that song was terrible, just kidding. Bro you killed that song. You should start making jazz drum covers.
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I use traditional grip exclusively. I'm pretensious. Stuart Copeland style, the stick lays in middle finger, not the ring.
The only thing I didn't like about Whiplash was when the kid was practicing to play faster swing on the ride cymbal. It was painful to watch and his technique was brutal. He was forcing speed and playing stiff. It would never work in real jazz.
If ima be honest I really dislike the snare sound
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So basically nothing happened...
If you drop two bananas, how do you pick them up? Truly, I want to know. I guess, maybe, some folks would pick up one with the right hand in the manner the hand naturally works. Then they would retrieve banana number two with their left hand using the hand in a perverse, distorted action that makes the job of picking up the naner more difficult and greatly increase the odds of dropping it . Grabbed again, and again it falls. Banana is deemed too hard to pick up. Now, the fruit flies take ownership. Bugs prefer you use traditional grip