Vintage acoustic tones with cheap modern equipment

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  • @alexh4436
    @alexh4436 Рік тому +111

    Josh is a prime example of how much work self-employed folks have to put in order to not have a job. As a musical noob I thought the work was merely thousands of hours of practice to play all the right notes ,but I guess that only gets you half way there, which makes me twice as appreciative of all of Josh's videos.

    • @macedindu829
      @macedindu829 Рік тому +4

      Yeah, there's just no end to it, and the amount of stuff he knows for his age.. I just stand in awe.

  • @gobbledeegookity
    @gobbledeegookity Рік тому +54

    I’ve been envious of your recorded acoustic guitar tone for a long time. Loved this. More ‘In the box’ tutorials alongside the usual content would be amazing!

  • @jimib3
    @jimib3 Рік тому +32

    Josh, please, please make more videos like this. Your covers and originals are my favorite thing on UA-cam, but this is also just great.

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM Рік тому +123

    I’ve always been amazed at the recording quality you get, especially with that Zoom recorder! This was a great insight to your technique.

    • @freejulianassange3143
      @freejulianassange3143 Рік тому +4

      Josh and Carson should have lifetime sponsorship from them for sure for all the sales they've likely inspired.

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM Рік тому

      @@freejulianassange3143 lol, I bought one because of them 😂

  • @edcew8236
    @edcew8236 Рік тому +9

    Technical skills on the guitar, recording engineer skills, vocals, arrangements, and musicianship -- the entire package!

  • @matthijsblomjous3671
    @matthijsblomjous3671 Рік тому +10

    3:22 I think the reason they played much louder in the past is because the noise floor of tape was so much higher than that of digital recording. So playing softly means that when you add extra gain in the mix the noise floor comes up significantly as well.

    • @JoshTurnerGuitar
      @JoshTurnerGuitar  Рік тому +11

      Definitely! There was a real “if you want it louder, hit it harder” approach back then

  • @bruceringrose7539
    @bruceringrose7539 Рік тому +47

    To all those folks that are saying “…thought you were taking a break?”. He said in the break announcement that there was a least one more video coming. Do try to keep up! 😇
    You don’t just sit down one afternoon and knock out these videos in a couple of hours; the quality of Josh’s videos take some time to create, including Kelly’s awesome video work! Thanks Josh, bookmarking this video for many rewatches!!!

    • @DiederikAms
      @DiederikAms Рік тому

      Sorry 😔

    • @bruceringrose7539
      @bruceringrose7539 Рік тому +1

      @@DiederikAms No worries, mate, just trying to add to the fun that Josh’s videos provide. Take care…

  • @christophermartin7973
    @christophermartin7973 Рік тому +2

    I think I've watched this 10 times by now what a resource this is. Thank you for doing this. I'd love to see your process for electric guitar that would be awesome!!

  • @ChaseEaglesonOfficial
    @ChaseEaglesonOfficial Рік тому

    Valhalla Verbs and J37, can't go wrong with those. Great video man!

  • @egalitarian-rex
    @egalitarian-rex Рік тому +2

    Your feline sidekick is remarkably chill as you perfect the thwack.

  • @kriskehrer6410
    @kriskehrer6410 Рік тому +16

    When you applied the 1Khz cut it tickled my ears in such a good way! I closed my eyes, took a deep breath, and was transported back to 1970 (12 years before I was born).
    The tone you created with some *gentle* digital massage was so warm and comforting and it just hits that je ne sais quoi. It scratches the musical itch.
    Thwack on!

  • @GlennRobert71
    @GlennRobert71 Рік тому +6

    Wow, now I appreciate your work and sharing on YT even more. Impressive skills not only on guitar but also producing. You're a legend Josh!

  • @rhatid
    @rhatid Рік тому +5

    I'm 76. I used a Vox AC 30 and a Gibson SG Junior (it only had one pickup) and I got a wahwah pedal (still have it- still have them all except the SG that fell and broke in the Marshall shop in Hanwell, London in the mid 60s) and I was rocking with my mates in the local community centre around Greenford and Ealing. Progress has left me behind over the horizon. I have been enjoying Josh music for years, and had no idea of the science behind what he did. Josh guitar music was all I thought - though, to be fair, I think that is what I am meant to think, just hear the music. Great work Josh, Reina, Toni and the others. Amazing work and dedication to the craft of making music.

  • @elijahawkins
    @elijahawkins Рік тому +1

    I've always loved playing guitar in smaller rooms with the ceiling fan on high. It gives you a little of that tape flutter-esque warble but live in the room

  • @ImGriffinP
    @ImGriffinP Рік тому +6

    Please do more content like this! What a great video!

  • @mccafferyfamily
    @mccafferyfamily Рік тому +5

    Love your attention to detail in recording acoustic guitar tones, sounds so fine in all your recordings. Within the next few years plan to record an album and definitely want this awesome acoustic guitar tones you get, thanks for sharing all your recording tips.

  • @elfelo8693
    @elfelo8693 2 місяці тому

    Thankyou! I love these types of videos. Forever striving to get more 70's flavours in my mixes.

  • @Ogma3bandcamp
    @Ogma3bandcamp Рік тому +2

    Awesome Josh. You are awesome dude.

  • @lloydstool4708
    @lloydstool4708 Рік тому +2

    In late 1968 I asked Frank Zappa what his secret was, and after a contemplative drag on his Winston, he said, "The Strap: I soak it in Earl Grey Tea before I go on." He later added that if Hendrix (still with us at the time) knew about The Strap he might actually accomplish something. After that night, I started to REALLY listen. Carry on, lad, you're getting there!

    • @matt9143
      @matt9143 Рік тому +2

      You say this as if you yourself are “there”

  • @colemckittrick
    @colemckittrick Рік тому +5

    Love content like this, your production is always something I’ve admired about your work

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu Рік тому

    I've been wanting to record some thwack of yore recently, so this came at just the right time. Thanks for your wisdom, Mr. Turner.

  • @ColdHawk
    @ColdHawk Рік тому +30

    As a total non-musician this is fascinating. The amazing sound Josh pulls off recording in the middle of a park or on a street corner is beginning to become clear to me now…. My impression he must either know magic or have the world’s most singularly expensive microphone was perhaps, uhm, overly simplistic. It’s just that his genius and scope of expertise are broader than I recognized.
    I’m obviously not the intended audience for this one, and some of what he said may as well have been in Aramaic to me, but it was cool to see some of the back end and fun to try to listen for the differences. It’s a window into a different perception of sound and music.
    Josh, if you happen to read this - many thanks for posting this video!

    • @kevinjoshua9728
      @kevinjoshua9728 Рік тому

      It's one of the thing my non-musician friends are usually surprised about. Unprocessed recording sounds nothing like the songs they heard on spotify and most musicians have a bit of know how in audio engineering, which just come with the job. After all, if a performance isn't recorded then it doesn't "exist" (to be heard again by others).

    • @joeloesch1219
      @joeloesch1219 Рік тому

      Yes. Even in the middle of the park! this guy....

  • @jefftiebout1376
    @jefftiebout1376 Рік тому +4

    This is fascinating. What an excellent video. I have often wondered how you mix and process your recordings. Thanks for the peek. More videos like this would be excellent. And, of course, all the fantastic music videos.

  • @alexanderstuartpetty485
    @alexanderstuartpetty485 Рік тому

    I love the thwack of yore!
    Being as I was born in 1972, and started recording as a young kid on casette tapes when I was not yet 10.. how far has home recording come! Its come so far that the term home recording seems silly now.. in the right hands its all pro level recording, and it can be done anywhere, and you, Josh, do it very well!

  • @benjicrane
    @benjicrane Рік тому

    Thanks again for continually working on quality content for us to learn and enjoy

  • @Sadlander2
    @Sadlander2 Рік тому +1

    When I have the chance of using two mics, I try to point them at different spots of the guitar. Pointing at your right hand to hear the pick hitting the strings is often a good idea. Also, you can pan the mics left and right to get a wide stereo sound. Just make sure both mics are at the same distance from the guitar to avoid phase issues.

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 Рік тому

    I once used a microphone from a "dictaphone" recorder. It was surprisingly good for piccolos, oboes and fifes.

  • @Jasperi
    @Jasperi Рік тому +2

    Yes please share more of your wisdom! Your video about nick drake's guitar tone was also really helpful. I find modern acoustic guitar recordings sometimes even grading to listen to, but you always get the tone just right.

  • @akselbostadranden5646
    @akselbostadranden5646 Рік тому +3

    Felt like even as a beginner, i could follow along to this. Would be amazing to get more insight into your process Josh. Loved the video, thank you!

  • @quailstudios
    @quailstudios Рік тому

    That was brilliant Josh. Thanks.

  • @orvillejohnson7235
    @orvillejohnson7235 Рік тому +1

    When I was starting out playing (60s and 70s) the only kind of acoustic strings I could get in my little town were Gibson Monel. Monel was a nickel blend. I'm pretty sure phosphor bronze wasn't available back then. The nickel strings don't have the bright shiny sound when you put them on. They also sound cooler the deader they get! I use a set Martin makes now called Retro that are nickel wound and during the pandemic I left a set on one of my guitars for over a year. The more dead they got, the more I could hear the sound of the 60s recorded acoustic guitar sounds I grew up on. Try those out (if you haven't already).

    • @lpjbird
      @lpjbird Рік тому

      I wish we could still record like we did back then, it was so much easier without all the digital DAW computer programs. Just a couple mics a nice reel to reel & go for it.

  • @andydepissant
    @andydepissant Рік тому

    I've been looking for someone who understood this, the thwack, for yars and years! God, thank you.

  • @cynthiachessani6788
    @cynthiachessani6788 Рік тому +1

    Hope you're enjoying time off Josh. I know nearly nothing about guitars and sound production, and I enjoyed this so much.

  • @creightonfreeman8059
    @creightonfreeman8059 Рік тому

    Josh Turner: Singer, songwriter, guitarist, Producer. I'm giving my age away but I actually remember recording in studios with that vintage equipment.

  • @andrewlukinsmusic
    @andrewlukinsmusic Рік тому +4

    LOVE this video! Please do more recording and mixing tips!

  • @andywlasniewski6810
    @andywlasniewski6810 Рік тому +1

    Nice Avett Brothers into riff

  • @TKPAWARRIOR
    @TKPAWARRIOR Рік тому +2

    Wonderful thank you for taking the time to share this you are a true gem and one of a kind.

  • @sierra.s.4528
    @sierra.s.4528 Рік тому +1

    Josh, I love this video!!! Thank you so much! I'm always amazed by the quality of your audio (and videos) and I've always wondered how you do it. More of these videos please!!

  • @alanmoberly64
    @alanmoberly64 Рік тому +1

    The best video I have watched in a while. Do more!

  • @joeloesch1219
    @joeloesch1219 Рік тому

    Like most of your work, the Thwack is there! And very kind of you to help your musical siblings row our little boats too.

  • @BrundonC
    @BrundonC Рік тому

    First I was thinking you were gonna start playing Ten Thousands Words… I could hear the little lead runs in my head along with your playing…

  • @dsubl
    @dsubl Рік тому

    OMG. I never cataloged those subtle differences before. I graduated high school in 1972 and you're giving me flashbacks ! ❤️

  • @philipatoz
    @philipatoz Рік тому +1

    To me, you wanna get the acoustic sound you really crave, it starts with a quality guitar that offers good warmth and projection. And experimenting until you find the best strings and gauge for that specific guitar. I've spent years exploring string options - I even keep a diary of first impressions of a new string type as well as after they have settled down from their brighter "newness."

  • @als1023
    @als1023 Рік тому

    Utterly fascinating !! I've been following since your 1st youtube videos as a teenager, and wondered where this career would go.
    You go man ,, you go !!
    All the very best !!

  • @ThePeaceableKingdom
    @ThePeaceableKingdom Рік тому

    The additive effect of small subtle changes makes so much difference.
    Thwack on!

  • @robertorion6559
    @robertorion6559 Рік тому

    The "wow" you added at the end made me laugh. I remember hearing tapes the 70's that had too much wow. I did not know it was called that, but I remember that.

  • @andrewf7754
    @andrewf7754 8 місяців тому

    Apart from the depth of knowledge that explains how you get such great sounds, I just love the irony - and the cat which just sleeps through it all.

  • @WysteriaGuitar
    @WysteriaGuitar Рік тому

    Accurate video, especially about the dead strings...a must for that 60's/70's sound!

  • @maxcr0wn
    @maxcr0wn Рік тому

    Super!!! The process of doubling guitars rocks!!!

  • @kevinreedmusic
    @kevinreedmusic Рік тому +43

    Can you make this a series? That 90s Sting sound needs representation

  • @christophermartin7973
    @christophermartin7973 Рік тому

    Super interesting video thank you! Looking forward to when you get back but don't rush and enjoy the break.

  • @tracythorleifson
    @tracythorleifson Рік тому +2

    “…90s Sting. It’s not the vibe.” 😂 And how’s that recording break going? 🤣 Seriously, I love these recording geek out videos. So much art _and_ science to getting that perfect sound. That subtle reverb and chunky recording tape effect is just awesome. We hear the results, but we almost never get to see all that goes into it. I grew up on that vintage acoustic “thwack of yore” and I just love it! Thank you! 😃

  • @paulembleton1733
    @paulembleton1733 Рік тому +1

    Glad this one was still in the pipe. Sounded awesome though I think the strings were to new!
    I’ve an Eko dreadnaught I bought in 1976 and I swear it loves old strings, but they have to be genuinely old. Chapstick feels like insulting my guitar’s intelligence.

  • @scottjones6624
    @scottjones6624 Рік тому

    Terrific video. I could not hear much difference A/B with each added effect, BUT the A/B of the start to the finish was great. And then the two guitars really made it.

  • @geraldhenrickson7472
    @geraldhenrickson7472 Рік тому

    THIS was a ton o' fun Josh. Thanks so much and have a relaxing respite.

  • @darrylr
    @darrylr Рік тому +2

    I'm pretty sure the acoustic damping of the cat helps those vintage vibes.

  • @BradleyBrown
    @BradleyBrown Рік тому

    Very cool! I love the results, and it's really something to see how the butter is churned!

  • @markeboy1658
    @markeboy1658 Рік тому +1

    You're a mad genius man.. A maaaaad genius

  • @StephenBates-tz3yj
    @StephenBates-tz3yj Рік тому

    I know these don't get as many views as covers but these videos have been immeasurably helpful.

  • @WEREWOLFCaT_STORIES
    @WEREWOLFCaT_STORIES Рік тому

    Really dig your video and delivery style. Cheers brother.

  • @aligrundy812
    @aligrundy812 Рік тому

    One of the most useful tone videos I’ve ever seen. Thank you!

  • @rocinblues
    @rocinblues Рік тому +1

    Agree, and great video content., but what about the bridge or the nut? You can buy a couple of blanks (bone) for under $15 and really improve the resonance of the guitar. Yeah, do my own tech work, and it really helps hold down the overpriced repairs that so many shops charge today, and most tech work is honestly pretty easy.

  • @maximilianodelrio
    @maximilianodelrio Рік тому

    So first i see your second arrangement cover and now this? Your channel is awesome!

  • @happyharryp
    @happyharryp 2 місяці тому

    I really like this video, especially your Ferris Bueller personality…you kinda look like Mathew Broderick too, good job from a guitar veteran of 56 years of playing.

  • @michaelbutler2312
    @michaelbutler2312 Рік тому

    great video! love the humor involved! there really has never been a time that you could not get vintage acoustic tones!

  • @chupacabraj4539
    @chupacabraj4539 Рік тому

    Nice!!! Reminds me of myself in my early recordings doing these experiments endlessly with different/old strings/rental mics/positioning/plugins.. Very nice video!

  • @dougc3321
    @dougc3321 Рік тому +1

    How does this kid not have 3M subscribers yet?

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes Рік тому +1

    This was fun! Super interesting, too. I thought you were on break, but glad you made this video! First pass listen on just laptop speakers (M1 MacBook Pro) the phasing that comes from the two different mics is 99% of the good stuff. You could really forget the rest and it sounds awesome! (Maybe an SSL buss compressor on the entire mix when you're done?) I wonder how many people these days know the power of two mics on a guitar? This is a fantasic demonstration of that technique. A hint for viewers -- a ribbon mic plus a Shure 57 creates magic just like this for electirc guitar cabinets, too!

  • @ryanbartlett672
    @ryanbartlett672 Рік тому

    Interesting and useful. Thanks. Chuckle on "...but too much and it starts to feel like a circus ride."

  • @SirGeorgeButtox
    @SirGeorgeButtox Рік тому +1

    Such a great watch. I actually think you nailed it 👏

  • @aarond23
    @aarond23 Рік тому

    Nice twisting of the virtual knobs!

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch Рік тому +14

    You nailed it nailed it nailed it. I wanted to get a time machine so I could go to 1978 and buy this album! Also, I learned so much during your DAW session that technicians were never able to explain to me. (f.i. what pre delay does on a reverb.) Much to be said for a technically inclined musician pointing these things out. It's all MUSIC, including the mixing and EQing and compressing and reverbing. Sounds like these disciplines didn't always use to be as separated as they are today.

  • @tomf429
    @tomf429 Рік тому

    Thanks for couching all that information between your tongue and your cheek. I really enjoyed it.

  • @uncatila
    @uncatila Рік тому

    I got a klos carbon fiber travel guitar because i keep it in my truck so i can practice every day and i dont eant it comming unglued if it gets hot.

  • @schlautropf3094
    @schlautropf3094 11 місяців тому

    youtube gold. Thank you, Josh!

  • @g.l.8319
    @g.l.8319 Рік тому +1

    I too love the thwack of yore

  • @robertbeger4275
    @robertbeger4275 Рік тому

    Josh you young thwacker you, impressive understanding of engineering!

  • @freejulianassange3143
    @freejulianassange3143 Рік тому

    You Sir, are a legend. I mean, in 19 different ways, but this way was right in my happiness wheelhouse. 8) We await the opening of the new channel too - "ProTools vintage ASMR with Josh". I haven't listened so closely to a youtube video for some time. Glad I did! Now I'm going to harang my metal-head friends with it so they can sound more like my favorite acoustic outtake of Tangled Up in Blue and less like an angry silicon diode.

  • @julianlavergne
    @julianlavergne Рік тому

    Incredible teaching. Thanks Josh. Learned a lot here.

  • @johnkaplun9619
    @johnkaplun9619 Рік тому

    I think tape is a really big part of it. It has a very specific impact on the transients imo

  • @chipdayton1625
    @chipdayton1625 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting and entertainly Josh. Makes me want to dig out my Teac A2300S!

  • @machawley
    @machawley Рік тому

    Josh, I love your work!
    This post is fun and I would like to add a couple of comments.
    If you 'thunk', you have to hit the strings. Tommy Emmanuel, Billie Strings, Rodrigo & Gabriella hit the strings! My favorite recording practice is a plugged in acoustic electric + a small diameter condenser about 8" from the 12th fret. I can send you a song I engineered if you're interested. Also I recommend recording clean with the best gear possible. Then it's possible to bring the sound to Old School with EQ, Compression, etc. I listened to the samples you published with some very good monitors and I came away thinking your work is interesting, but only a small piece of the possible spectrum.

  • @chupeRodriguez
    @chupeRodriguez Рік тому

    Amazing Josh! I think this could be a Series of videos with different tones and/or guitars! Cheers

  • @ScottPenick
    @ScottPenick Рік тому +1

    Josh's music and production is wonderful, but I think there are two things worth throwing out there to others who watched this...
    Lots of folks producing music at home these days are either using Reaper, Ableton, or FL Studio. I don't know 'Heat' well enough to suggest an alternative but I'm sure there are cheap or free VST plugins that can accomplish the same thing or something similar without needing ProTools.
    Your A/B comparisons starting at 10:18 aren't volume-matched, so of course your compressed one sounds 'better' once you pushed the output +3dB. Klanghelm does have volume matching on some of their plugins but it looks like not on this one.

    • @JoshTurnerGuitar
      @JoshTurnerGuitar  Рік тому +1

      Fair points! I wish I was conversant in more DAWs than Pro Tools, but at least now Pro Tools First makes the majority of these features available to a lot of people. I’m sure there are similar things to Heat within other DAWs.
      I pushed the output gain there just to compensate for the gain reduction from the compression. That was a seat of the pants call and I might not have level matched perfectly!

  • @BrendanMiranda
    @BrendanMiranda Рік тому

    Awesome. This exactly where my ears lead me when mixing guitars too, usually go for J37 or Tape Mello-Fi depending 🔥

  • @regaudieguillaume
    @regaudieguillaume Рік тому

    That's so convincing! Great work!

  • @kweinfurt
    @kweinfurt Рік тому

    This was awesome. Also, Josh is freaking hilarious.

  • @dawnmorris3996
    @dawnmorris3996 Рік тому

    You bring me joy

  • @Healcraft
    @Healcraft Рік тому

    turns out ive been doing all along.... at the digging in and cheap thin pick, strings part

  • @espedale
    @espedale Рік тому

    Excellent! Please keep doing these!

  • @sangmyungshim
    @sangmyungshim Рік тому

    Thank you for your tips!😊 can you do anothing mix’s too?

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead Рік тому

    Saving this. It's exactly what I was looking for.

  • @zjokka
    @zjokka Рік тому +1

    It's interesting, fast and friggin funny... Great work Josh!

  • @tozguitar
    @tozguitar 3 місяці тому

    John Martyn Bless the weather album. Best recorded acoustic tone I've ever heard.

  • @jdwylde7
    @jdwylde7 Рік тому

    The only disagreement i have is about coated strings. I partially agree but if you want a flat sound then buy poly web elixers and scuff then a little. They go super flat and stay there. Nano webs stay pretty bright.

  • @myopictopics7258
    @myopictopics7258 Рік тому

    Not sure if it is the way you edited this video, or they way you addressed the camera, but I got a very Ferris Bueller vibe from this video. Nice video.

  • @thomasfrostlid9963
    @thomasfrostlid9963 Рік тому

    Wow, I always admired the sound of your recordings. Now I know why. Wery interesting.

  • @benjaminzagar4626
    @benjaminzagar4626 Рік тому

    Great video. Thank you for sharing this. Your recordings always sound amazing!!

  • @kevinbrownsberger9575
    @kevinbrownsberger9575 Рік тому

    Awesome Josh!!

  • @Grantborland
    @Grantborland Рік тому

    Amazing video - easy to digest, and super helpful. Good concepts to keep in mind down the road. Thanks for this!