You have not picked up some issues of this Rider 750. 1. When your speed reduces to 7-8km/h (up the steep hill, Bryton speed sensor used) the unit pauses and resumes working only when you increase the speed. 2. You sometimes go up the hill and it shows the gradient = 0 or nothing at all. Comparing to a Garmin computer, the gradient values are much smaller. 3. You must remember that the displayed temperature is approximately 2 degrees less than it really is.
I bought the 750 and have some observations. 1. On the map page in heading mode the arrow in upper left corner is not rotating. It should rotate to point N so the rider could know what direction he is heading. Just like in other devices. Otherwise that mark is useless. I have written to the support pointing that oddity. They have replied but didn't confirm my suggestions. 2. Lack of battery icon in %. Of course you can live without it, but in a flagship device it would be nice to have that. However, it is a good and reliable device in general.
Nice review I agree with you 👍 Ive had the 750 for a couple of months and I'm happy with it Ive noticed the battery lasts a lot longer if you change gps settings to the battery save mode gps only. When in this mode i cant tell any difference in the gps performance (manchester uk) it seems to work as on/like the highly accurate setting I changed from Garmin to the Bryton More bangs for your buck💰 No regrets here👍
@@scottrider7271 Averaging around 6/7deg Celsius but dry at the moment Still have to get wrapped up to go out 🥶 Cheshire lanes and Peak District both on my doorstep👍 Enjoying watching your channel , keep em coming 🎥🙂
I've read that the mount is not compatable with a garmin quarter turn.... I have an integrated out front mount on my canyon - is is possible to unscrew the bryton mount from the internal of their out front mount so i can install it in my existing set-up?
i have no clue honestly.. BUT, definitely try it first without changing. I had a garmin mount that took the bryton without changing.... aka the bryton fit into the garmin mount nice and tight... actually preferred it.. it was tighter.
Nice review. I am considering getting one. I have a couple questions for you. 1. When adding the odometer to the data field, can it be set to a number other than 0000, i.e. to the reading of the unit being replaced? 2. Can this unit be charged on the fly using a battery bank? Thanks for your help!
Not sure about the odometer so maybe just check with Bryton. I've never had to do that. In regards to charging after you select the bike you can plug in a charger and it keeps recording so yeah you can apparently charge it while you're riding if you really need it to. Full battery lasts a hell of a long time you'll probably get more than eight or nine hours with all functions running so yeah
Good question and honestly the white background is easier to say it see in the day... And I even found I liked it better at night so I just left it always on
On the Bryton unit itself... Home screen (slide up from bottom) / settings icon / system / system settings / meter color mode..... You can set it to either day ...which is the light setting ...night which is the dark setting.. or Auto which will switch automatically with time.... I have mine permanently set to day mode
It does the full maps type thing, but it's never as good as a phone... so don't expect that. If you don't need maps, stay with the 420. The 750 does show the data a little nicer and a bit more on a page, but it wouldn't be a reason to upgrade if you already have the 420 otherwise.
Not all... Make sure to check the specs....also if you're using power meter, you're likely using like heart rate maybe.. a cadence too.. it's nice to have more data fields on one screen so you don't have to flip between them as much... My favorite units the Bryton 420
IMPORTANT: Note that rerouting doesn't work on preloaded routes made by any of the route planners (either Bryton, Strava, Komoot or others). If you deviate from the route you will have navigate on your own back to the originally planned route.
ya I noticed that... I guess it assumes you planned a route and want to stick to it. What i do is simply navigate and voice search to my destination... this plans and reroutes on the fly... super quick.
Thanks for your answer. I bought the unit on AliExpress app. The problem now is that the connection with the app is terrible. I can’t use maps. I’m not sure if this version works fine in Brazil.
Hi nice video. I am still not sure if the 750 supports BLE sensors. Bryton's website says, yes, in one part, and NO in another part. Do you really know is I can connect BLE sensors? Another question, when I am navigating, can I see the route profile to check out in what part of the route I am?, this is specially important when I am climbing and I need to know how far is the end of that terrible climb.. Garmin 530 has the climbpro or something like that. Cheers man
Contact Bryton in regards to the ble sensors I don't have any. For some strange reason I don't think it does the Bluetooth. In regards to the navigation, when you're navigating the elevation screen automatically pops up on a separate screen and you can zoom in and out of it so you'll be able to see... I usually set my mind for about 2 km in front of me but I can test it out tomorrow and see what the lower and higher range of the distance/altitude it'll show you. You can adjust it while you're riding.
good review! I am about hitting the buy button for this, this item is on my cart for a week now! how's the navigation on this computer? does this comes with offline map? does this have a feature of return where you start? this is my problem in biking so far, I always forget where I start and parked my car specially on those trails with few loops and no internet signal in the middle of the forest.
it comes with OSM open street maps installed so you can use it without your phone. But, there isn't turn by turn info if phone isn't connected and all of the street info will not display in this case...if you get lost alot you would still likely prefer your phone...as in all bike gps's. I haven't noticed a return to home funtion, but you could simply use the navigation feature to have it map a new route back I suppose. Thw best feature is the navigation in my opinion. If it is paired to your phone you can quickly have it map a route to any location with turn by turn and re-routing if you change paths. I have had several map gps units and to be honest the phones always work better. I use the navigation to simply voice enter a location and it draws me a map in a few seconds and I just use that most. navigation video.... LINK ua-cam.com/video/IuYiFcdHOR0/v-deo.html
I have my Bryton app connected to my Strava... after I finish a ride it automatically uploads to Strava. Bryton allows you to upload a track via .gpx format.. I have done this before by creating a map on 'map my ride'... exporting as .gpx, then dropping it onto my phone, then the Rider 750. Never used the active 'website' ... but the active app will do this
I find the best / quickest mapping to be simply using the 'navigation' option with auto rerouting enabled. I simply start navigation, enter my destination, then it creates a path for you... if I go off the path it reroutes for you in 3-6 seconds (depends on length)... if you preload a map, then you are stuck to that specific course.
I was expecting the same thing, but I was surprised it wasn't as bad as I was hearing. I just turned on the backlight and made sure I was set with the white background.
wait for a sunny day, go to a bike shop, make sure its set to white background, full brightness and backlight and give it a try... most shops should have a demo i think...
Glad you are enjoying it, i am on the fence regarding buying, looking at the usual suspects but keep coming back to the 750, TBH its the rings and graphs i like most😂😂 like the one arm bandits with all thier bright lights grabbing your attention, i think the main point that does hold me back on the 750 is the tech and customer support, the app i did download to see what it is like, seems fine , i know not to always trust the internet too much but there are complaints for all brands regarding tech support but Bryton seems to have its fair share compared to the amount of units they sell which i assume would be less. Good review and look forward to some updates. I hope to pull the trigger in the nexy few days
If you don't need maps or indoor trainers the Brighton 420 is half the price, does everything. Also a little brighter screen. It doesn't look as flashy as most units but it shows all the data and has like super long battery life.
my typical scenarios I start a ride .. start recording and I'll go back to navigation ...and do it more than once so yeah it works under the navigation.. as far as a fixed map like you're following an actual map I'll have to try that
No, I haven't. I'm sort of settled on the 750. I think it has a smaller display than mine and I like lots of data so I just wasn't interested. I think it's the newest top end.. is that right?
I think the s800 actually has a smaller screen... It's likely a little faster than 750 so it won't lag as much. But one thing a lot of people forget is a bike computer you only really notice the lag when you're setting it up and then after that you just sort of leave the settings you like so you're not really playing with it too much. For instance I don't really touch my settings anymore and I just use the buttons to flip screens which is actually nicer than having to slide the screen
Hello, I'm a Korean. Please understand that I use a translator. I accidentally deleted the file "World.dat" while trying to purchase the Bryton 750 model and put the map file into the device. After that, the gps system does not work. Can I get this file again???
Thanks for the review. I'm hoping to do a 3 day bikepacking trip later in the year. Would the Bryton Rider 420 or the 750 be better for the trip? I'm not after all the bells and whistles.
Just stick to road here in Taiwan... Off-road is mostly jungle... It uses the OSM maps so I would expect it would react like other gps in that regard. Sorry, about the limit of what I know in that regard.
Yes, no problem. I plugged it in while recording and it enables charging. It doesn't stop the ride. Also unplugged it and the charging stopped... Doesn't effect the recording. Basically just works like a smartphone where you can plug in and unplug it at any time and it doesn't affect the unit.
And if I have full back screen and like four screens going and mapping and navigation I'll still get like 8 to 9 hours. That's fully maxed out, so if you're not doing everything like that you'll get 15 hours so it's it's an all day unit.
To each their own.. you have osm maps on the Bryton, so you can use it offline and of course you can create your own maps on the bryton. so that's similar.. it doesn't have the Strava segments that's the difference but as far as the app goes.. come on ...it's just different simple as that. Unless you have faulty units that break...what kind of after-sales service do you need? I've owned four of these units I've never had a problem.. if I had a problem I'd take it back to the store I bought it and get a replacement.
@@scottrider7271 Just to clarify, I'm not talking about a pre-defined route... Let's say that I'm not following any route, I just want to see my cycled path/trace so far during the current activity on the map (like strava does)... But it only shows where I am now, not the tracing. Is there any specific option to enable that?
I'll go for a ride tonight you're likely not just starting a button of some sort I don't know I'll see what I'm doing and pay more attention. Are you recording the ride have you hit record?
@@scottrider7271 I'm recording the activity... Just to clarify more: At the end of the activity I can see my cycled path/trace. This is ok. But what I'm talking about is *during* the activity... If you see this video ua-cam.com/video/cshhjEz62Hc/v-deo.html at 3:00 it's the same... The difference is that he is following a route, but you can't see on the map his own cycled path.
I will never buy another Bryton product. I bought a Bryton Rider 750 which I really like but the battery failed after 4 months. They replaced it but it took over a month. The second one’s battery failed after 7 months and over 2 months later I have given up hope that they are going to replace it. Their customer service is terrible, so I recommend that you stay away from all Bryton products.
You have not picked up some issues of this Rider 750. 1. When your speed reduces to 7-8km/h (up the steep hill, Bryton speed sensor used) the unit pauses and resumes working only when you increase the speed. 2. You sometimes go up the hill and it shows the gradient = 0 or nothing at all. Comparing to a Garmin computer, the gradient values are much smaller. 3. You must remember that the displayed temperature is approximately 2 degrees less than it really is.
Never used the speed sensor good to point out... I find the GPS is okay or relatively close having tested it though...
I bought the 750 and have some observations.
1. On the map page in heading mode the arrow in upper left corner is not rotating. It should rotate to point N so the rider could know what direction he is heading. Just like in other devices. Otherwise that mark is useless. I have written to the support pointing that oddity. They have replied but didn't confirm my suggestions.
2. Lack of battery icon in %. Of course you can live without it, but in a flagship device it would be nice to have that.
However, it is a good and reliable device in general.
ya... it has a few things to get used too.... you can enable direction on the other cells.... it will say 'N/NW/E....etc...
@@scottrider7271 Yeah, I've done it already, no choice. But we waste that cell then. Anyway, thanks for the advice. Ride safe.
Nice one Scott. Enjoyed the opening drone shot. Very cool.
Thanks man...
Apparently there's an update coming to the Bryton 750 to increase the responsiveness of the map zooming in the next few weeks..
I have the 750, however, I am unable to locate the follow track feature on the computer. Any suggestions?
did you enable the maps screen?
Hi, how you think , 750 se better then 750?
Nice review I agree with you 👍
Ive had the 750 for a couple of months and I'm happy with it
Ive noticed the battery lasts a lot longer if you change gps settings to the battery save mode gps only.
When in this mode i cant tell any difference in the gps performance (manchester uk) it seems to work as on/like the highly accurate setting
I changed from Garmin to the Bryton
More bangs for your buck💰
No regrets here👍
Cool, how's the cycling weather being lately in the UK?
@@scottrider7271
Averaging around 6/7deg Celsius but dry at the moment
Still have to get wrapped up to go out 🥶
Cheshire lanes and Peak District both on my doorstep👍
Enjoying watching your channel , keep em coming 🎥🙂
I've read that the mount is not compatable with a garmin quarter turn.... I have an integrated out front mount on my canyon - is is possible to unscrew the bryton mount from the internal of their out front mount so i can install it in my existing set-up?
i have no clue honestly.. BUT, definitely try it first without changing. I had a garmin mount that took the bryton without changing.... aka the bryton fit into the garmin mount nice and tight... actually preferred it.. it was tighter.
Nice review. I am considering getting one. I have a couple questions for you. 1. When adding the odometer to the data field, can it be set to a number other than 0000, i.e. to the reading of the unit being replaced? 2. Can this unit be charged on the fly using a battery bank? Thanks for your help!
Not sure about the odometer so maybe just check with Bryton. I've never had to do that. In regards to charging after you select the bike you can plug in a charger and it keeps recording so yeah you can apparently charge it while you're riding if you really need it to. Full battery lasts a hell of a long time you'll probably get more than eight or nine hours with all functions running so yeah
I've been looking how to change the background color (day/night mode) but I don't see it anywhere. How can you change it?
Good question and honestly the white background is easier to say it see in the day... And I even found I liked it better at night so I just left it always on
On the Bryton unit itself... Home screen (slide up from bottom) / settings icon / system / system settings / meter color mode..... You can set it to either day ...which is the light setting ...night which is the dark setting.. or Auto which will switch automatically with time.... I have mine permanently set to day mode
Is it necessary to create a route to get the breadcrumbs on the map? I don't usually plan my route I just ride, specially mountain biking.
ya, its pretty basic.. works ok, but yes.
Yes, and you must use the app, to create and send to head unit. Trees can block the GPS signal, so keep that in mind.
Is the follow route better than the 420? the 420 does everything I want except live segments plus more memory maybe reduce the glitches
It does the full maps type thing, but it's never as good as a phone... so don't expect that. If you don't need maps, stay with the 420. The 750 does show the data a little nicer and a bit more on a page, but it wouldn't be a reason to upgrade if you already have the 420 otherwise.
hu, great review. im new to cycling headunit, do every headunit can connect with power meter ?
Not all... Make sure to check the specs....also if you're using power meter, you're likely using like heart rate maybe.. a cadence too.. it's nice to have more data fields on one screen so you don't have to flip between them as much... My favorite units the Bryton 420
IMPORTANT: Note that rerouting doesn't work on preloaded routes made by any of the route planners (either Bryton, Strava, Komoot or others). If you deviate from the route you will have navigate on your own back to the originally planned route.
ya I noticed that... I guess it assumes you planned a route and want to stick to it. What i do is simply navigate and voice search to my destination... this plans and reroutes on the fly... super quick.
Hi. I have just got my brand new bryton 750 and I have some questions about it. Can charge it using 220v or USB connections on PC?
I'm sure the PC USB will be fine but it will be slow.. as far as the other one just check with bryton... I don't know
Thanks for your answer. I bought the unit on AliExpress app. The problem now is that the connection with the app is terrible. I can’t use maps. I’m not sure if this version works fine in Brazil.
Hi nice video. I am still not sure if the 750 supports BLE sensors. Bryton's website says, yes, in one part, and NO in another part. Do you really know is I can connect BLE sensors? Another question, when I am navigating, can I see the route profile to check out in what part of the route I am?, this is specially important when I am climbing and I need to know how far is the end of that terrible climb.. Garmin 530 has the climbpro or something like that. Cheers man
Contact Bryton in regards to the ble sensors I don't have any. For some strange reason I don't think it does the Bluetooth. In regards to the navigation, when you're navigating the elevation screen automatically pops up on a separate screen and you can zoom in and out of it so you'll be able to see... I usually set my mind for about 2 km in front of me but I can test it out tomorrow and see what the lower and higher range of the distance/altitude it'll show you. You can adjust it while you're riding.
@@scottrider7271 great!! thanks so much for that. The good point is I can see the remaining climb hehe
No Strava live-srgments? I think that they available in Bryton rider 420..
Never tried to be honest..I last time I tried I had to pay for Strava and I just use a free account
live segments not available on 420
good review! I am about hitting the buy button for this, this item is on my cart for a week now! how's the navigation on this computer? does this comes with offline map? does this have a feature of return where you start? this is my problem in biking so far, I always forget where I start and parked my car specially on those trails with few loops and no internet signal in the middle of the forest.
it comes with OSM open street maps installed so you can use it without your phone. But, there isn't turn by turn info if phone isn't connected and all of the street info will not display in this case...if you get lost alot you would still likely prefer your phone...as in all bike gps's. I haven't noticed a return to home funtion, but you could simply use the navigation feature to have it map a new route back I suppose. Thw best feature is the navigation in my opinion. If it is paired to your phone you can quickly have it map a route to any location with turn by turn and re-routing if you change paths. I have had several map gps units and to be honest the phones always work better. I use the navigation to simply voice enter a location and it draws me a map in a few seconds and I just use that most.
navigation video.... LINK
ua-cam.com/video/IuYiFcdHOR0/v-deo.html
any way of manually uploading a workout file aside from TP's and Bryton active website?
I have my Bryton app connected to my Strava... after I finish a ride it automatically uploads to Strava. Bryton allows you to upload a track via .gpx format.. I have done this before by creating a map on 'map my ride'... exporting as .gpx, then dropping it onto my phone, then the Rider 750. Never used the active 'website' ... but the active app will do this
I find the best / quickest mapping to be simply using the 'navigation' option with auto rerouting enabled. I simply start navigation, enter my destination, then it creates a path for you... if I go off the path it reroutes for you in 3-6 seconds (depends on length)... if you preload a map, then you are stuck to that specific course.
Workouts
Yeah I figured you meant that I've never had any experience with that so maybe just contact Bryton
By the way, very helpful review.
no problem
How is the readability in the sunlight? I hear different things..
I was expecting the same thing, but I was surprised it wasn't as bad as I was hearing. I just turned on the backlight and made sure I was set with the white background.
wait for a sunny day, go to a bike shop, make sure its set to white background, full brightness and backlight and give it a try... most shops should have a demo i think...
Glad you are enjoying it, i am on the fence regarding buying, looking at the usual suspects but keep coming back to the 750, TBH its the rings and graphs i like most😂😂 like the one arm bandits with all thier bright lights grabbing your attention, i think the main point that does hold me back on the 750 is the tech and customer support, the app i did download to see what it is like, seems fine , i know not to always trust the internet too much but there are complaints for all brands regarding tech support but Bryton seems to have its fair share compared to the amount of units they sell which i assume would be less. Good review and look forward to some updates. I hope to pull the trigger in the nexy few days
If you don't need maps or indoor trainers the Brighton 420 is half the price, does everything. Also a little brighter screen. It doesn't look as flashy as most units but it shows all the data and has like super long battery life.
@@scottrider7271 420 latest firmware upgrade brought up smart trainer support as well a DI2. Absolutely enjoying the device...
Can you add route without stopping the recording ??
my typical scenarios I start a ride .. start recording and I'll go back to navigation ...and do it more than once so yeah it works under the navigation.. as far as a fixed map like you're following an actual map I'll have to try that
Have you tried the S800?
No, I haven't. I'm sort of settled on the 750. I think it has a smaller display than mine and I like lots of data so I just wasn't interested. I think it's the newest top end.. is that right?
@@scottrider7271 yeah, newest model and if I recall a larger screen
I think the s800 actually has a smaller screen... It's likely a little faster than 750 so it won't lag as much. But one thing a lot of people forget is a bike computer you only really notice the lag when you're setting it up and then after that you just sort of leave the settings you like so you're not really playing with it too much. For instance I don't really touch my settings anymore and I just use the buttons to flip screens which is actually nicer than having to slide the screen
Hello, I'm a Korean. Please understand that I use a translator. I accidentally deleted the file "World.dat" while trying to purchase the Bryton 750 model and put the map file into the device. After that, the gps system does not work. Can I get this file again???
Try a device reset
@@scottrider7271 I tried it, but it's useless.
@@scottrider7271 I can't get that file. It's so sad.
Factory reset?
@@scottrider7271 yes
Thanks for the review. I'm hoping to do a 3 day bikepacking trip later in the year. Would the Bryton Rider 420 or the 750 be better for the trip?
I'm not after all the bells and whistles.
If you are taking a phone... Maps are not really needed
I have the 750... But never use maps
420 is great for data, fits lots in the screen.. ez to see to Sunlight
@@scottrider7271 thanks. I currently have the rider 310 and it has been great.
how is it off road?
Just stick to road here in Taiwan... Off-road is mostly jungle... It uses the OSM maps so I would expect it would react like other gps in that regard. Sorry, about the limit of what I know in that regard.
can it connect to Bluetooth sensor ?
sorry.. just the wifi and ant+
Can it be charged via powerbank while riding?
Never tried... I'll give it a shot tomorrow let you know
Yes, no problem. I plugged it in while recording and it enables charging. It doesn't stop the ride. Also unplugged it and the charging stopped... Doesn't effect the recording. Basically just works like a smartphone where you can plug in and unplug it at any time and it doesn't affect the unit.
And if I have full back screen and like four screens going and mapping and navigation I'll still get like 8 to 9 hours. That's fully maxed out, so if you're not doing everything like that you'll get 15 hours so it's it's an all day unit.
@@scottrider7271 thanks a ton bro.
Great review! You should connect with Taiwan trade to do more product reviews.
Good idea!
who to contact.. good idea...
Does that connects to Iphone?
Yes, just download the app.
Why 530 instead of Bryton? Thats easy. Can use my own maps, offline navigation, strava segments, better app, after-sales service
To each their own.. you have osm maps on the Bryton, so you can use it offline and of course you can create your own maps on the bryton. so that's similar.. it doesn't have the Strava segments that's the difference but as far as the app goes.. come on ...it's just different simple as that. Unless you have faulty units that break...what kind of after-sales service do you need? I've owned four of these units I've never had a problem.. if I had a problem I'd take it back to the store I bought it and get a replacement.
I just bought one and I can't see my trace on the map... Why? This sould be a basic feature.
Works for me tell me more about your settings... Likely just haven't got something set up... Let's figure this out
@@scottrider7271 Just to clarify, I'm not talking about a pre-defined route... Let's say that I'm not following any route, I just want to see my cycled path/trace so far during the current activity on the map (like strava does)... But it only shows where I am now, not the tracing. Is there any specific option to enable that?
I'll go for a ride tonight you're likely not just starting a button of some sort I don't know I'll see what I'm doing and pay more attention. Are you recording the ride have you hit record?
If you're not recording a ride it will simply just keep showing you your current position if you have GPS signals also check your GPS signal settings
@@scottrider7271 I'm recording the activity... Just to clarify more: At the end of the activity I can see my cycled path/trace. This is ok. But what I'm talking about is *during* the activity... If you see this video ua-cam.com/video/cshhjEz62Hc/v-deo.html at 3:00 it's the same... The difference is that he is following a route, but you can't see on the map his own cycled path.
I will never buy another Bryton product. I bought a Bryton Rider 750 which I really like but the battery failed after 4 months. They replaced it but it took over a month. The second one’s battery failed after 7 months and over 2 months later I have given up hope that they are going to replace it. Their customer service is terrible, so I recommend that you stay away from all Bryton products.
bad luck... maybe a bad supply of batteries, I have been lucky with 3 different models.... sorry to hear
Vorrei le spiegazioni in italiano grazie
no problem