hey scott great video ! One doubt regarding laps on this computer. During intervals if u press lap will the screen start to show a timer and the current power , HR, etc ? If not automatically can be configured to do so ? Cheers !
Hi Scott, thanks for the video a lot more practical information than other videos. What out-front bracket do you use? I've heard it is possible to use some Garmin ones.
I actually have a Bryton mount so that's what I use. But I have tried it on a few Garmin mounts and it does fit.. but it's a little tight.. but it does work there was one time where I tried it and it didn't work so it's sort of a hit and miss. They come with a stem or handlebar mount with all units so you can start with that ...and just go and try different garmin mounts.
it has a backlight for night viewing yes... it will upload to strava if you have it set after a ride, it is about the same as any other unit in direct sunlight....
Great review. Late to the party on this but here goes - can you use this for an indoor dumb trainer i.e could you temporarily switch off the gps and use a Bluetooth speed sensor alongside the cadence and HR sensors used on the road? Thanks
never tried.... don't have the speed sensor, nor a trainer (its always summer here)... i think it advertised you could use it with a trainer... email Bryton on that one ... sorry I couldn't help
@@scottrider7271 Thanks for replying. I'll have a look at their customer support stuff. Tour de My Garage is essential here I'm afraid as I'm a fair weather rider only these days. All the best
Hi. nice review. Does the equipment have the functionallity to share our localization, for example for our family know where we are (like livetrack in the garmin devices)?
Not that I know of.... it essentially uploads the data after recording. If you want livetrack type stuff you'll likely have your phone on you that can likely do that
It saves on the device itself in .fit file format .... there's likely converters out there for conversion if needed. The bryton automatically uploads to strava once setup in the phone app.
It seems Bryton aren't bothering to update the firmware for the "follow track" memory problem, i.e. eventually it will freeze up and even keep resetting won't help, so, makes follow track unusable to me, as a work around, is there a way to stop a follow track while recording? this may help the memory
Great video thank you. If you use this for hiking will it give your position? If it does will it give your position in the British Ordnace Survey, 6 figure reference.?
You can use it for hiking. It won't show actual gps coordinates, it will map and save to a .gpx file. Info will be in the file, but won't show gps data in real time... Most phones with a barometer should do this though
I don’t own this headunit yet but from my research, as long as your garmin forerunner have ANT+ it should be able to broadcast the HR to this unit. I own vivoactive 3 and it does have HR broadcasting and can be choose to always broadcast(which will deplete battery much faster) or only broadcast while in activity. Which in theoretical understanding will be need to turn on activity at your watch just will able to broadcast HR. Hence require to turn on two device.
@@peterscuba Yes, it does. If you go off route you can still see the route until it scrolls away from the screen. About 2-3 blocks off route you can still see the breadcrumbs, after that you will need to use your phone or just backtrack until it appears again. What I do is start a route that's a distance away, it will appear when I get to the route.
i bought the 420, done a few long rides in Thailand and am very happy with it so thanks again Scott. Some observations: - breadcrumbs is easy to follow even if starting the route from the opposite direction except POIs and distances are wrong. - breadcrumbs route doesn't show direction so when you cross over the track further along the route or where you've already been it can get confusing. - Turn notifications are mostly wrong, no idea why, but just following breadcrumbs is ok. - Bryton app is excellent at using a ride already done and setting it up as a track to use, except for some rides the track is slightly different to the ride it's based on, a system issue,maybe due to a quirk of Thailand roads and maps. The altitude page is a waste of time, sadly I can't see how to turn it off
@@scottrider7271 Have you worked out how to get a gpx file to the computer or on the Bryton Active app? i downloaded the gpx from Strava but can't find a way for the app to pick it up
If you're running on the 750 and you're using a map screen like a map or a navigation a second screen will pop up with your elevation which you can zoom in and out. If you're referring to the 420 the elevation screen pops up with the map as well but you can't zoom in and out
No idea ...but I can't see why it wouldn't work... it's sort of a standardized system. if you have the h10 or whatever it's called already... just try it but a quick email to Bryton may work.
Does it have pre-installed maps (OSM or similar)? or the possibility to install them? Quality of the buttons? are they usable with gloves? no touch screen right?
Do i need my phone ON to have turn by turn notifications and bread crumbs? Or can I simply load a map (from phone to bryton) and put the phone in air plane mode and still have a bread crumbs and turn by turn notifications?
good review :) Do you know how to turn the navigation off and on I turned it on because I needed a GPS while riding, but I don't know how to turn it off because I thought turning on the navigation would consume a lot of battery. 😅
Start a new ride... The turn by turn only turns on if you turn it on ..or restart. I usually just use phone if I am lost, but if I am following a pre-planned route I find the battery still lasts 12hrs or more
Hi, nice review, i use the rider 410 over a year and very pleased with it, but it will upgrade to the 420 for the gps funtion and 2e here comes my question...is it possible to load trainingsprograms to the rider 420 from the app active or trainingspeaks? tkx
is it possible to calibrate a pm mid ride without stopping and reseting the ride? i've used the 330 and everytime i wanted to midride calibrate it reset my ride to 0
@@peterscuba everytime I wanted to access the menu, or calibrate/offset my power meter mid ride the Bryton 330 reset my ride and I had to start from zero, my question was if I stop on the side of the road and want to access the menu will the Bryton reset the ride to zero km or?
@@Mi7cro whilst recording a ride you can change sensors, in settings you can change data page and sound. On my previous 310 you couldn't do any of that
Hello there, i'm looking into buying my first bike computer with cadence and heart rate sensors and i'm torn between the rider 420 and Aero 60, i can get them at the same price but i'm not sure wich one to get, i'm looking for a training companion to sync with strava... Thanks for any help on my decision!
the 420 has a 'little' better screen, the 60 uses OSM (open street map). basically you can load maps on to the device and use it as sort of a navigation... albeit not as good as a phone (no bike gps are, even the top end garmin). the 420 can follow a line map route with turn by turn BUT it needs to be loaded onto the unit from either a phone or PC before riding. Since the only times i need maps are when i am in a new place the 420 was my choice. This is simply because I will have my phone in these rare instances. The 420 (quick look) video I have shows how to load a route onto the 420 from a phone at the end of the video. Full maps on ANY gps I have used are slow and the screen isn't great to see while riding. Basically if you are needing full maps (OSM) you need to stop anyways... phone works better. Really depends on this factor . Same price you say? tough choice. I prefer the 420, but only because the maps on the 60 are simply 'ok', and i don't use them often. If you think you will use maps alot and dont always take your phone (most people do) then the aero 60. ALSO...the aero 60 and 450 are basically the same unit with different mount.
Well it does do Bluetooth and ANT... It should work. I just send a message to Bryton and see what they say.... It's not really necessary because you don't need a speed sensor with the bryton. It will pick up your speed by GPS and it's pretty accurate within a second
no, the gps is quite accurate. I personally don't use the speed sensor and it updates in almost real-time. You can change the settings to have it update every second. The only time a speed sensor is likely needed is if you are cycling in a tunnel all the time.
Great video. Does the 420 have a pseudo or similar to Garmin Climbpro feature? You know, a graph is displayed showing that start and end of the climb to your route? Does it also notify you if you're approaching or on a strava challenge segment? Thanks dude.
The 420 is a pretty basic unit it just shows a lot of data but when it comes to maps it's not really usable... but if you do follow the track that breadcrumb thing it will display another screen will pop up that will show you the elevation graph but as far as segments ... not a chance on this
Informative review, thanks.
no problem
hey scott great video ! One doubt regarding laps on this computer. During intervals if u press lap will the screen start to show a timer and the current power , HR, etc ? If not automatically can be configured to do so ? Cheers !
Hi Scott, thanks for the video a lot more practical information than other videos. What out-front bracket do you use? I've heard it is possible to use some Garmin ones.
I actually have a Bryton mount so that's what I use. But I have tried it on a few Garmin mounts and it does fit.. but it's a little tight.. but it does work there was one time where I tried it and it didn't work so it's sort of a hit and miss. They come with a stem or handlebar mount with all units so you can start with that ...and just go and try different garmin mounts.
@@scottrider7271 thanks
Is it clearly visible in direct sunlight? I believe it have backlight for night viewing? Does it load ride data automatically to strava?
it has a backlight for night viewing yes... it will upload to strava if you have it set after a ride, it is about the same as any other unit in direct sunlight....
Does the backlight keep turned on while pressed or does it auto off after a while? It's important for me while riding in dark circumstances.
I have mine set to permanently on there's a setting.
Great review. Late to the party on this but here goes - can you use this for an indoor dumb trainer i.e could you temporarily switch off the gps and use a Bluetooth speed sensor alongside the cadence and HR sensors used on the road? Thanks
never tried.... don't have the speed sensor, nor a trainer (its always summer here)... i think it advertised you could use it with a trainer... email Bryton on that one ... sorry I couldn't help
@@scottrider7271 Thanks for replying. I'll have a look at their customer support stuff. Tour de My Garage is essential here I'm afraid as I'm a fair weather rider only these days. All the best
Hi. nice review. Does the equipment have the functionallity to share our localization, for example for our family know where we are (like livetrack in the garmin devices)?
Not that I know of.... it essentially uploads the data after recording. If you want livetrack type stuff you'll likely have your phone on you that can likely do that
Great review,I'm just wondering are the files in FIT or GTX form?
Let you know, I will attach the unit to the pc and take a look. I have just been automatically sending them to Strava through the phone app
@@scottrider7271 thanks sir,truly appreciate it
It saves on the device itself in .fit file format .... there's likely converters out there for conversion if needed. The bryton automatically uploads to strava once setup in the phone app.
@@scottrider7271 thabk you so much! This is very helpful ~ you sir stay safe and healthy there
Nice video. Thanks.
When having imported a route, can you see upcoming elevation to go up on the route or only elevation covered thus far?
Also, does this unit have support for Workouts like Intervals..?
And does the unit for onto Garmin quarter-turn mounts..?
it shows the next 2km in front of you in the graph
not sure... it does laps... but i havent used that function yet
some... mine worked on a garmin mount, but it was tight, but worked.
It seems Bryton aren't bothering to update the firmware for the "follow track" memory problem, i.e. eventually it will freeze up and even keep resetting won't help, so, makes follow track unusable to me, as a work around, is there a way to stop a follow track while recording? this may help the memory
not sure... never really used it much beyond seeing if it works.... using the 750 unit now....
So, ... I can load a map from the Bryton App from Strava and send it to the 420?
yes, the bryton app can send the gps map data. The unit is basic in display though... just breadcrumb lines will be shown.
Thank you for sharing
No problem
Great video thank you. If you use this for hiking will it give your position? If it does will it give your position in the British Ordnace Survey, 6 figure reference.?
You can use it for hiking. It won't show actual gps coordinates, it will map and save to a .gpx file. Info will be in the file, but won't show gps data in real time... Most phones with a barometer should do this though
Nice and informative review, thank you. Would u know if my Garmin Forerunner 935 will be able to broadcast HR to this unit?
not sre... bryton may help you on that, sorry man.
I don’t own this headunit yet but from my research, as long as your garmin forerunner have ANT+ it should be able to broadcast the HR to this unit. I own vivoactive 3 and it does have HR broadcasting and can be choose to always broadcast(which will deplete battery much faster) or only broadcast while in activity. Which in theoretical understanding will be need to turn on activity at your watch just will able to broadcast HR. Hence require to turn on two device.
Good review, i may go buy one, upgrade from 310
Thanks Peter, If you have any questions feel free to ask!
With the breadcrumbs route if you set up a route but detour off does it work again when you rejoin the route further along?
@@peterscuba Yes, it does. If you go off route you can still see the route until it scrolls away from the screen. About 2-3 blocks off route you can still see the breadcrumbs, after that you will need to use your phone or just backtrack until it appears again. What I do is start a route that's a distance away, it will appear when I get to the route.
i bought the 420, done a few long rides in Thailand and am very happy with it so thanks again Scott.
Some observations:
- breadcrumbs is easy to follow even if starting the route from the opposite direction except POIs and distances are wrong.
- breadcrumbs route doesn't show direction so when you cross over the track further along the route or where you've already been it can get confusing.
- Turn notifications are mostly wrong, no idea why, but just following breadcrumbs is ok.
- Bryton app is excellent at using a ride already done and setting it up as a track to use, except for some rides the track is slightly different to the ride it's based on, a system issue,maybe due to a quirk of Thailand roads and maps.
The altitude page is a waste of time, sadly I can't see how to turn it off
@@scottrider7271 Have you worked out how to get a gpx file to the computer or on the Bryton Active app? i downloaded the gpx from Strava but can't find a way for the app to pick it up
Nice review!! elevation profile available?Greetings from Colombia
If you're running on the 750 and you're using a map screen like a map or a navigation a second screen will pop up with your elevation which you can zoom in and out. If you're referring to the 420 the elevation screen pops up with the map as well but you can't zoom in and out
Great video,
I bought the 420 because I saw that it could be paired with Di2 but I am not able to do it, do you know if it is possible? Best regards
Have no clue... Pretty sure it's supposed to display gears... Download the manual?
I have downloaded it but it does not say anything about it, however it does say on faqs that the d-fly is needed, I have it@@scottrider7271
Does ir automaticky connect to strava after your side when you pair it with phone?
Yes it does.. as long as Bluetooth is on... Takes about 15 seconds to transfer a 40km ride after recording
@@scottrider7271 thank you!
Hi, do you know how to set alert for the HR in 420? I can found speed alert setting but not the HR.
Sorry, never used the HR.
Great review, does it connect to Strava?
absolutely... you can have it automatically upload after stopping and saving a ride in settings.
I'm new to this, is the heart rate from the device also uploaded to strava? (In case i use only free features of strava)
yes the heart rate will upload as well as the cadence and the elevation all that stuff... I'm only using the free version of Strava as well
Hi. Sorry to get in late, but do you need to get a Bryton HR sensor, or will a Polar H10 be okay? I know they use Bluetooth.
Cheers
No idea ...but I can't see why it wouldn't work... it's sort of a standardized system. if you have the h10 or whatever it's called already... just try it but a quick email to Bryton may work.
Does it have pre-installed maps (OSM or similar)? or the possibility to install them? Quality of the buttons? are they usable with gloves? no touch screen right?
the 450 / aero 60 have the OSM maps, the 420 requires a map from phone or pc. Buttons are fine. It isn't a touchscreen so gloves are also no problem.
Do i need my phone ON to have turn by turn notifications and bread crumbs? Or can I simply load a map (from phone to bryton) and put the phone in air plane mode and still have a bread crumbs and turn by turn notifications?
Good question... never tried that .. I'll load a map, turn my phone off and see what happens.. give me two to three days I'll upload something
@@scottrider7271 wondering if you figured this out. Thanks!
Once you've loaded the map on to the Brighton 420 you don't need to have the phone connected it's just for loading the map.
I've been using rider 100 for years no complaints. Looking to upgrade to 420 to pair with power meter.Can you switch from KPH to MPH?
yes... there's an option in the settings.
What about cadence? Can it measure your cadence? Do we need to buy a separate cadence sensor?
Yes, you need to buy cadence sensor if you don't have one.. they're not that much money, but most of them work even if it's not Bryton
good review :)
Do you know how to turn the navigation off and on
I turned it on because I needed a GPS while riding, but I don't know how to turn it off because I thought turning on the navigation would consume a lot of battery. 😅
Start a new ride... The turn by turn only turns on if you turn it on ..or restart. I usually just use phone if I am lost, but if I am following a pre-planned route I find the battery still lasts 12hrs or more
Hi, nice review, i use the rider 410 over a year and very pleased with it, but it will upgrade to the 420 for the gps funtion and 2e here comes my question...is it possible to load trainingsprograms to the rider 420 from the app active or trainingspeaks? tkx
Haven't actually used training peaks yet, just Strava. Have u contacted bryton?
@@scottrider7271ok, tkx for the response. Not yet. Gonne mail them these days.
is it possible to calibrate a pm mid ride without stopping and reseting the ride? i've used the 330 and everytime i wanted to midride calibrate it reset my ride to 0
I'm not sure what you mean by calibrate but you can start a new follow track at anytime without stopping and saving the ride
@@peterscuba everytime I wanted to access the menu, or calibrate/offset my power meter mid ride the Bryton 330 reset my ride and I had to start from zero, my question was if I stop on the side of the road and want to access the menu will the Bryton reset the ride to zero km or?
@@Mi7cro whilst recording a ride you can change sensors, in settings you can change data page and sound. On my previous 310 you couldn't do any of that
@@peterscuba thank you 😊
thanks peter
Hello there, i'm looking into buying my first bike computer with cadence and heart rate sensors and i'm torn between the rider 420 and Aero 60, i can get them at the same price but i'm not sure wich one to get, i'm looking for a training companion to sync with strava... Thanks for any help on my decision!
the 420 has a 'little' better screen, the 60 uses OSM (open street map). basically you can load maps on to the device and use it as sort of a navigation... albeit not as good as a phone (no bike gps are, even the top end garmin). the 420 can follow a line map route with turn by turn BUT it needs to be loaded onto the unit from either a phone or PC before riding. Since the only times i need maps are when i am in a new place the 420 was my choice. This is simply because I will have my phone in these rare instances. The 420 (quick look) video I have shows how to load a route onto the 420 from a phone at the end of the video. Full maps on ANY gps I have used are slow and the screen isn't great to see while riding. Basically if you are needing full maps (OSM) you need to stop anyways... phone works better. Really depends on this factor . Same price you say? tough choice. I prefer the 420, but only because the maps on the 60 are simply 'ok', and i don't use them often. If you think you will use maps alot and dont always take your phone (most people do) then the aero 60. ALSO...the aero 60 and 450 are basically the same unit with different mount.
@@scottrider7271 thank you very much! I Will go with the 420 since i always take my phone and have a good internet data plan :)
compatible to bontrager duotrap?
Well it does do Bluetooth and ANT... It should work. I just send a message to Bryton and see what they say.... It's not really necessary because you don't need a speed sensor with the bryton. It will pick up your speed by GPS and it's pretty accurate within a second
Do you need the speed sensor in order to see your speed?
no, the gps is quite accurate. I personally don't use the speed sensor and it updates in almost real-time. You can change the settings to have it update every second. The only time a speed sensor is likely needed is if you are cycling in a tunnel all the time.
did u record this video in Taiwan?
Yes, I live here
@@scottrider7271 i live here tooooooo
How do i change the language in the head unit. Accidentally pick germany
Oops... Not sure ... Likely resetting somehow.... You Google this yet?
@@scottrider7271 yep but still no solution
@@scottrider7271 ok got it. Now how do i turn off notifications from my phone to the head unit. I dont want any whatsapp or texts or call etc
Disable notification in the settings
Meu Bryton Rider 420, fica piscando a tela durante o treino, Essa tela piscando é normal?
English translate from? sorry....
Great video. Does the 420 have a pseudo or similar to Garmin Climbpro feature? You know, a graph is displayed showing that start and end of the climb to your route?
Does it also notify you if you're approaching or on a strava challenge segment?
Thanks dude.
The 420 is a pretty basic unit it just shows a lot of data but when it comes to maps it's not really usable... but if you do follow the track that breadcrumb thing it will display another screen will pop up that will show you the elevation graph but as far as segments ... not a chance on this
Your a life saver 😢😢😢
Lol.. how so?
can I load a GPX file into it?
Haven't tried I'll give it a shot and get back to you
@@scottrider7271 Thank you!
hey thats taipei!
Lol... Sure is
Why are you playing 1970s porn music in the back ground
Umm, err, no reason... Lol
Yup the initial music sucks.
Lol... It's UA-cam music, not much choice