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This might give you a giggle...out of curiosity I wanted to know what my tables were like...(keep in mind it's almost 10:30 at night and nobody else knows I'm watching this) I get up from the couch, pulled out a kitchen chair and crawled under muttering to myself...lol...my son was watching me. He's like "ummm what are you doing?" I've been getting back to woodworking for my Dusty wood adventures...I'm like "Just checking out my table construction "...Apparently my kitchen table has a veneer on top of plywood which I didn't know. Mine is attached with straight up blocks and no movement. Thanks for your knowledge!
Finally!! Someone clearly explained the interaction of wood movement and fasteners. I’m new to woodworking and was torturing myself over the need for an anchor point with these types of fasteners, but wasn’t sure if that would eventually lead to other problems. You explained it perfectly. Thank you!! Wood dowel buttons are a great idea BTW. I wish that Domino took wasn’t so ridiculously expensive. It looks very handy.
The dowel button is pretty clever. It is interesting how woodworking at its core is just variants of the same principles. For the most part, it's all just different ways of doing mortise and tenons. Some ways are stronger, some are cheaper, some look prettier. Even hardware and fasteners are still, in principle, simply mortise and tenons (even pocket holes :D).
I have watch your videos from when you started, your knowledge level and abilities to research are extremely impressive. However what really sets you apart is your clear and exact explanation of what you are doing. When I go to build something you have made it seems to always good without hitches.
You are the prettiest carpenter on UA-cam not to mention lots of very smart idea. Also you would make a great teacher as well. Thank you for the good work you are doing.
So glad you clarified about the pocket hole table top issue! Also the buttons are great because you can make them in a pinch and you dont have to wait for shipping or running to the store. Great ideas as always! Thank you! If practical, I might suggest warmer lighting in the new shop for filming.
Thank s for taking the time to explain why I need to attach the top a particular way. The expansion in multiple directions is not some thing that I had thought of before. Great, humble teaching style.
Wow, almost 700k subs, and you are taking the time to comment / like as many comments as you can. I hope people realize how much work that must be. Thanks for staying grounded, while becoming YT famous, all at the same time.
That dowel button is BRILLIANT! I almost didn't watch this video because I figured this was just a list of everything I was already familiar with. But I watch all of your videos, and I am SO glad I didn't skip this one. Thank you!
I'm the same. I use very dry wood and the humidity doesn't change much where I am BUT I'm thinking I should start taking the expansion into account because I might accidentally get some not so dry timber and a customer or myself might change location. (And the know-it-alls will have to destructively criticise something else).
Tamar, I really enjoy your posts not only for the content, but that you talk and explain what you are doing. There are other creators that could learn from you. thank you for not just playing repetitive music. Again I really enjoy your work.
Thanks for the great tips ... I think the dowel button idea is very handy for those of us that don't have all the tools or skill sets. I am building a desk top table from live edged cedar in a epoxy table which offers challenges on the expansion aspect so this helps a whole lot on solving that problem.
Thank you so much. I have watched several videos on this subject and was leaning towards the mortise button. I was thinking to custom shape the buttons for use in my biscuit jointing machined slot. After being exposed to at least 10 different methods by 4 different men, yours was the last video watched. You have sold me on the "Skinny Fit Dowel" technique. I needed this for my current build. You seriously need to name this method!!
Thanks Tamar for the thorough explanation behind the need to account for wood movement in this application. As always, I appreciate your focus on various options available and your outside the box thinking. The button/dowel solution was brilliant!
Brilliant idea to use dowels. I have learnt so much from you over the past couple of years, thank you for sharing your work. Respect and Regards from Pakistan
This video just popped up at the right time. I'm building a chest like coffee table and wasn't thinking about the wood shrinking and expanding. Thank you for saving my behind!!!
Thanks for making my life better, used your dealt tablesaw to fine tune works better than ever😊😊😊😊😊 so I was looking thru my wood pile and found a very old piece of Douglas fir it is 25” wide, was in an old Victorian house built in mid 1800’s, when I look closer at the grain there were very tight rings. I believe it came from an old growth tree that likely was over 400 years old. I was struggling on how to keep it from warping and here is Tamar with many solutions.
The dowel buttons are a great idea and I plan use them with the table I'm building. I had been stuck because I had planned to use one of the metal type fasteners with threaded inserts because I wanted to be able to remove the legs from time to time without stripping out the screw holes. However, I discovered that the slots and holes in all the metal fasteners were all to small to fit the threaded inserts screws. Then I watched your video and realized that your dowel button idea should work just fine with my threaded inserts. Thank you.
I could not wrap my head around doing this without messing the wood up. Honestly the first method is what I will do because it’s easy and cheap. Great content.
I really like the dowles. Practical, cheap but still fulfils the need. Again you open up a topic and discuss different options, commercial and workshop. Thank you
Holy crap your brain must be huge to be thinking of all these ways to secure a top to legs. Those all all awesome ideas!!!! Thanks for putting out your ideas!!!! Dave
This is what I like about your video you take your time and explain step by step everything no love music playing in the background to distract The Listener this way anybody can learn something from you and that's why I love your channel I can learn something from you because you take your time and explain it
You are a great woodworker! Keep up the great content. I've watched hundreds of woodworking UA-cam videos and your channel is simply one of the best. Probably top 3 for me. Thank you!
I am currently in the middle of a build and was thinking of the best way I wanted to attach the top. This video popped up at the perfect time! Thank you!
This couldn’t have come at a better time! I’ve just cut up everything to make a reclaimed wood table and I was trying to work out how to attach the base to the legs (I’m a metal worker so don’t have many woodworking tools) I’m going to steal the dowel buttons as I have the dowel and some scrap wood. I’ll be sure to tag thank you on Instagram when I make it!! Thank you so much for this!
Thank you for your hard work.♥ This is a great demonstration of all options available. This makes a great reference point / video to refer back to when building my next table. Imho the oversized holes with or without the slotted stretchers makes the most sense. However the other options are just as viable.
Love the dowel Button, would definitely seal them and wax the holes. As you know dowels are wood and can expand and contact. Great instructional video. Very nice to have you back. Thank you.
Thank you Tamar, I will go for number 6, the buttons. Am going to make them out of chestnut wood. Seems strong enough for a small table to put my laser engraver/cutter on. Good video, can't go wrong.
I like your creativity and emphasis on "options". The dowel button is a great example of that. It made me think of another option that might be quicker. Make little blocks as you did with the dowel button, but instead of a dowel, pre-drill a small hole, pound a stout nail in, then clip off the head of the nail with a bolt cutter. Use the shaft of the nail similar to the dowel button. Does that make sense? Seems like it would work. Thanks for super videos. I'm learning a lot from you.
Video is okay...but I personally love cracks in my pieces and get excited when I constantly have to repair my work so it's never done. I deem it "perpetual perfection". This channel is full of ideas to tear my dreams apart..... Great video by the way. Thanks for the tips and education. I also LOVE your new shop.
I've been looking forward to a new video from you, and this one delivers wonderfully. Right now, sadly, I'm doing more of the carpentry (my garage needs a *lot* of work) than finer woodworking, but this is great for me to see and have available to me for when the garage/workshop is ready. Thank you!
@@3x3CustomTamar Yeah, but that's part of the fun. Well, a little bit, anyway. At some point, it's more fun to make stuff in the workshop than it is to make the workshop itself :)
I've been thinking of making a cherry table/desk as my next woodworking project, and I get the feeling I'll be watching this video several more times when I do. Thank you!
Your dowel button idea looks like a winner. If I was to make a single table, instead of producing them, I'd give it a try. The metal versions that need a slot in the rail are likely a better time-for-cost trade. It's a good story overall, too.
I used the slotted L brackets 10:30 for the first time and found the installation to be very easy and very solid. 20 clips with screws for $15. For me - well worth it.
I've done some table top work, and being sort of a snob about using hardware, came up with the idea of using wooden buttons with a side slot, but instead of using a screw to attach it, use a wedged tenon into the top. You could go all the way through the top, so you can see the work, or you could just bury the tenon using a wedge or just glue, I suppose, but I'd hate to rely on glue to hold it together. I love the idea of just using a dovetail, but on a wide table, your joinery had better be perfect or you'd never get it together. I suspect that is why you don't see it too often. If you pare down your dovetails to make the fit easier, the joint will be too loose. Thanks for the vid!
Great stuff! I really like the dowel button idea. Seems sturdy & very easy to batch out. Once again, you always impress with the innovation you bring to the craft!
The dowels are a great idea but I really love the sliding dovetails. That would make some really awesome serving trays, box feet, foot stools, or any smaller items like that! You're a fantastic woodworker and I love your brainstorming and creative ideas. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the video, it explains the options well. I am just starting design of a table, and htis gives some ideas. I did find some washers at Lee Valley that are elongated, and can be milled into the skirts to provide motion. It would depend on the skirt width though. I like the dowel idea, nice and simple.
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Thanks for the video. I like the dowel version the best cheap easy and gets the job done. If you do not glue it together and the dowel breaks you can pull out broken dowel and replace. Take a snack sized plastic bag and put a few spares, that way after a move or other rough use of the table and a few break you do not have to go and find them, and if you make the table for someone else they will thank you for spares.
The dowel buttons are a great idea, good thinking. What I do often is to put two or three pocket holes about 1 1/2" apart in the center of the end rails. This holds the top securely and helps resist pulling the top off when lifting the table and keeps the top centered. If you want one side pinned down, put the pocket holes along that side. Then use one of the floating methods everywhere else.
Good tips. I have a large table I rescued from the dumpster that uses pocket holes to attach the apron to the top. It didn't act like MDF when I repaired a pocket hole in one of the aprons. It hasn't split, but even though it didn't act like MDF when I put the screws back into it, it could have a laminate on the top to make it look like hardwood.
Thanks for giving all these options! I knew the method using buttons (the dowel version is genius!) but I’m about to put some seats onto triangular stool bases, and the oversized hole seems the best for that. I had been wondering how to install them for a while - thanks for posting this vid just in time for me :-)
Cool ideas. I have seen the dowel in slots before but never the button idea. I never realized why it was done but knew my kitchen table is assembled with screws through oversized holes.
Making buttons on the CNC is the way to go! Those angle brackets looked pretty interesting, I might try those on a small night stand or dresser sometime. The dowel was a clever idea and probably faster if you didn't have the jig you showed for the table saw.
I enjoy very much watching You building things and the jigs, lots of interesting ideas specially for the beginner who has not too many tools... About the last method You showed, The Button Dowels seem pretty good specially where I am there is not much hardware I can find in stores.. The question arises: if I have to move the table (assembled) and I pick it up from the edges... how much the different holders will stand raising the whole weight of the assembled table??? Thanks for sharing all Your knowledge and being such a great teacher...
I bought z-clips to use in a kerf slot similar to the button, but this gave an idea to perhaps glue/fix in the clip at the center of the small ends, ir use an angle bracket there instead.
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Dowel buttons and all those fixtures are good. For smaller projects like top of the wooden chair, old craftsmen in my country used something similar to non-dowel buttons, from hardwood, but slot in apron/stretcher was more like made by bisquit jointer, slightly anled like to uphil on one side, and button was pivoting on thicker bolt locking the top to frame, allowing wood movement. And such joint could have been disassembled in no time, just by turning all those nobs away from their slots in frame.
Thanks! I ordered some of the "expansion" brackets. I didn't know they existed. I'm in the process of making a small table and was planning on going to the hardware and finding some off-the-shelf L brackets that I could rework with a slot to do this. Didn't know I could just buy them if I knew what to search for.
A method to possibly add to your list. Back in the old days (early in the Norm Dynasty), I was taught (I don't remember from where) to use 2 washers in the same way as the figure-8s that are available now. The washers are larger and have to overlap. One is screwed to the rail. The second is screwed in position on the top to overlap the first. It's the friction of the overlap that keeps the top on the base. Shallow mortising on the rail helps to hide, just like the figure-8s. I just always assumed that the figure-8s were a gadget based on this method. PROs: 1) Cheap! ...especially in quantity. 2) Works for both grain directions. CON: Takes a some fiddling and experimentation in the beginning to figure out the best way to mount them. Fender washers can make it easier since there is more area, but have to be cut/filed down to not be visible on the outside of the rails.
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Great idea!!
This might give you a giggle...out of curiosity I wanted to know what my tables were like...(keep in mind it's almost 10:30 at night and nobody else knows I'm watching this) I get up from the couch, pulled out a kitchen chair and crawled under muttering to myself...lol...my son was watching me. He's like "ummm what are you doing?" I've been getting back to woodworking for my Dusty wood adventures...I'm like "Just checking out my table construction "...Apparently my kitchen table has a veneer on top of plywood which I didn't know. Mine is attached with straight up blocks and no movement. Thanks for your knowledge!
Finally!! Someone clearly explained the interaction of wood movement and fasteners. I’m new to woodworking and was torturing myself over the need for an anchor point with these types of fasteners, but wasn’t sure if that would eventually lead to other problems. You explained it perfectly. Thank you!! Wood dowel buttons are a great idea BTW. I wish that Domino took wasn’t so ridiculously expensive. It looks very handy.
The dowel button is pretty clever. It is interesting how woodworking at its core is just variants of the same principles. For the most part, it's all just different ways of doing mortise and tenons. Some ways are stronger, some are cheaper, some look prettier. Even hardware and fasteners are still, in principle, simply mortise and tenons (even pocket holes :D).
Yup! Once you understand the “why” the “how-to” can be figured out in many different ways
I like the dowel button because it seems to give more wood movement and that seems to be the point of the whole video
Your channel has the clearest and most thorough videos that I’ve found for a beginner like me. You’re a great teacher. Thank you :-)
Wow, thank you!
I think the dowel buttons are a great idea. And I'm always impressed by workflow tips like drilling holes first then cutting.
Glad you appreciate it!
I have watch your videos from when you started, your knowledge level and abilities to research are extremely impressive. However what really sets you apart is your clear and exact explanation of what you are doing. When I go to build something you have made it seems to always good without hitches.
You are the prettiest carpenter on UA-cam not to mention lots of very smart idea. Also you would make a great teacher as well. Thank you for the good work you are doing.
Thanx
So glad you clarified about the pocket hole table top issue! Also the buttons are great because you can make them in a pinch and you dont have to wait for shipping or running to the store. Great ideas as always! Thank you! If practical, I might suggest warmer lighting in the new shop for filming.
Thank s for taking the time to explain why I need to attach the top a particular way. The expansion in multiple directions is not some thing that I had thought of before. Great, humble teaching style.
These videos are very informative. I've been learning from them for the last three years now. Much Love from Kenya...
The dowel idea is worth a million bucks. I really like to watch your experiments and tricks and tips. Please keep them coming.
Wow, almost 700k subs, and you are taking the time to comment / like as many comments as you can. I hope people realize how much work that must be. Thanks for staying grounded, while becoming YT famous, all at the same time.
That dowel button is BRILLIANT! I almost didn't watch this video because I figured this was just a list of everything I was already familiar with. But I watch all of your videos, and I am SO glad I didn't skip this one. Thank you!
The best woodworking channel on UA-cam. Always instructional and inspirational . Thank you Tamar!
Awesome to hear!
1000% agree
This lady is an amazing teacher. Thanks for show me what to do these past few months.
I never thought about wood movement and luckily it hasn't been an issue for projects I've done, 😬. Thanks, very informative!
I'm the same. I use very dry wood and the humidity doesn't change much where I am BUT I'm thinking I should start taking the expansion into account because I might accidentally get some not so dry timber and a customer or myself might change location. (And the know-it-alls will have to destructively criticise something else).
@@Goalsplus I am in WI so humidity is all over the place. I think I've just gotten lucky with the types of projects and dryness of wood.
Tamar, I really enjoy your posts not only for the content, but that you talk and explain what you are doing. There are other creators that could learn from you. thank you for not just playing repetitive music. Again I really enjoy your work.
Glad you appreciate it
Thanks for the great tips ... I think the dowel button idea is very handy for those of us that don't have all the tools or skill sets. I am building a desk top table from live edged cedar in a epoxy table which offers challenges on the expansion aspect so this helps a whole lot on solving that problem.
I'm going to use the dowel buttons for an end table I'm making for my wife. Thank you for showing a great method for fabricating them. Awesome stuff!
Thank you so much. I have watched several videos on this subject and was leaning towards the mortise button. I was thinking to custom shape the buttons for use in my biscuit jointing machined slot. After being exposed to at least 10 different methods by 4 different men, yours was the last video watched. You have sold me on the "Skinny Fit Dowel" technique. I needed this for my current build. You seriously need to name this method!!
Love the dowel idea. Looking forward to seeing how you've laid out your new shop.
Glad you like it!
Thanks Tamar for the thorough explanation behind the need to account for wood movement in this application. As always, I appreciate your focus on various options available and your outside the box thinking. The button/dowel solution was brilliant!
Smart lady.
Huge thanks! I've learned a lot from you over the last few years. Attaching my raw wood table top today.
Glad to help!
You truly have the soul of an educator. Thanks
Brilliant idea to use dowels. I have learnt so much from you over the past couple of years, thank you for sharing your work. Respect and Regards from Pakistan
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Love the dowel butttons, been working with wood for 60 years & never thought of what you did. Great idea. Love ur show & I'm 80
So glad you like it! I thought it was cool
This video just popped up at the right time. I'm building a chest like coffee table and wasn't thinking about the wood shrinking and expanding. Thank you for saving my behind!!!
Awesome
Thanks for making my life better, used your dealt tablesaw to fine tune works better than ever😊😊😊😊😊 so I was looking thru my wood pile and found a very old piece of Douglas fir it is 25” wide, was in an old Victorian house built in mid 1800’s, when I look closer at the grain there were very tight rings. I believe it came from an old growth tree that likely was over 400 years old. I was struggling on how to keep it from warping and here is Tamar with many solutions.
The dowel buttons are a great idea and I plan use them with the table I'm building. I had been stuck because I had planned to use one of the metal type fasteners with threaded inserts because I wanted to be able to remove the legs from time to time without stripping out the screw holes. However, I discovered that the slots and holes in all the metal fasteners were all to small to fit the threaded inserts screws. Then I watched your video and realized that your dowel button idea should work just fine with my threaded inserts. Thank you.
I like the comparison you give. We don’t have to masters to make things. I really like that you give options for skills, and tools.
Thanks
I really appreciate someone offering solutions to this problem rather just scolding people and telling them not to do it
Glad you appreciate it
I could not wrap my head around doing this without messing the wood up. Honestly the first method is what I will do because it’s easy and cheap. Great content.
Tamar, you are such an excellent instructor. Thanks for this video.
THIS!!! Tamar you rock! This video was SO helpful. Great job and thanks for helping us learn.
I really like the dowles. Practical, cheap but still fulfils the need.
Again you open up a topic and discuss different options, commercial and workshop. Thank you
So glad you like the dowel idea! I thought it was pretty cool
Aaannnnd Tamar is back doing what she does best! Just at a point when I was building up my mental strength to make a table. Thank you
Birdy
Haha awesome
Dowel buttons, yes. More amazing thoughtful woodcraft that is completely inspiring. Thanks, Tamar.
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Can’t believe the perfect timing on this. I have to attach a desktop to a frame this weekend.
Thanks!
Awesome
Holy crap your brain must be huge to be thinking of all these ways to secure a top to legs. Those all all awesome ideas!!!! Thanks for putting out your ideas!!!! Dave
still one of my favorite channels. Love the dowel method, but those butterflies look amazing.
Glad you like them!
So good to have you back, Tamar. Looking forward to more of your work.
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This is what I like about your video you take your time and explain step by step everything no love music playing in the background to distract The Listener this way anybody can learn something from you and that's why I love your channel I can learn something from you because you take your time and explain it
I am not a wood worker, but still I like to watch your video because I love your work!
Ha. Nice!
You are a great woodworker! Keep up the great content. I've watched hundreds of woodworking UA-cam videos and your channel is simply one of the best. Probably top 3 for me. Thank you!
That’s awesome to hear! Thanks!
I am currently in the middle of a build and was thinking of the best way I wanted to attach the top. This video popped up at the perfect time! Thank you!
Awesome
The idea for the button with a dowel is a hit! Well done!
This couldn’t have come at a better time! I’ve just cut up everything to make a reclaimed wood table and I was trying to work out how to attach the base to the legs (I’m a metal worker so don’t have many woodworking tools)
I’m going to steal the dowel buttons as I have the dowel and some scrap wood. I’ll be sure to tag thank you on Instagram when I make it!! Thank you so much for this!
Thank you for your hard work.♥ This is a great demonstration of all options available. This makes a great reference point / video to refer back to when building my next table. Imho the oversized holes with or without the slotted stretchers makes the most sense. However the other options are just as viable.
Awesome tip! Wish I knew this when I made my dinning table 😀 I make these adjustments when I refinish it.
Love the dowel Button, would definitely seal them and wax the holes. As you know dowels are wood and can expand and contact. Great instructional video. Very nice to have you back. Thank you.
Thank you Tamar, I will go for number 6, the buttons. Am going to make them out of chestnut wood. Seems strong enough for a small table to put my laser engraver/cutter on. Good video, can't go wrong.
I like your creativity and emphasis on "options". The dowel button is a great example of that. It made me think of another option that might be quicker. Make little blocks as you did with the dowel button, but instead of a dowel, pre-drill a small hole, pound a stout nail in, then clip off the head of the nail with a bolt cutter. Use the shaft of the nail similar to the dowel button. Does that make sense? Seems like it would work. Thanks for super videos. I'm learning a lot from you.
Video is okay...but I personally love cracks in my pieces and get excited when I constantly have to repair my work so it's never done. I deem it "perpetual perfection". This channel is full of ideas to tear my dreams apart.....
Great video by the way. Thanks for the tips and education. I also LOVE your new shop.
😂😂 that would drive me nuts. Glad you like it!
I've been looking forward to a new video from you, and this one delivers wonderfully. Right now, sadly, I'm doing more of the carpentry (my garage needs a *lot* of work) than finer woodworking, but this is great for me to see and have available to me for when the garage/workshop is ready. Thank you!
Have fun setting it up. I know the drill ha
@@3x3CustomTamar Yeah, but that's part of the fun. Well, a little bit, anyway. At some point, it's more fun to make stuff in the workshop than it is to make the workshop itself :)
Dowel buttons are exactly what i needed. Thank you.
Thank you Tamar for sharing all of these joints. Really interesting.
Tamar always makes the newbie feel like we can do it. Great channel awesome mom and instructor. Thank you
Awesome to hear
I've been thinking of making a cherry table/desk as my next woodworking project, and I get the feeling I'll be watching this video several more times when I do. Thank you!
Haha glad it’s helpful!
excellent video tamar! thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
They all look good. But the dowel button looks like the easiest and yet admirable way of doing it. Thank you for sharing all of these ideas.
I thought it seems pretty easy too!
Your ingenuity always amazes me, Tamar. The dowel button is another great idea. Another great video!
Glad you liked it!
Great summary! Clear, concise and complete.
Your dowel button idea looks like a winner. If I was to make a single table, instead of producing them, I'd give it a try. The metal versions that need a slot in the rail are likely a better time-for-cost trade. It's a good story overall, too.
I used the slotted L brackets 10:30 for the first time and found the installation to be very easy and very solid. 20 clips with screws for $15. For me - well worth it.
Tamar,your dowels are an ingenius breakthrough! Go girl go!
Oops,omitted the "o"..... oh sorry
I really like the new graphics. They're great to help make the point.
I've done some table top work, and being sort of a snob about using hardware, came up with the idea of using wooden buttons with a side slot, but instead of using a screw to attach it, use a wedged tenon into the top. You could go all the way through the top, so you can see the work, or you could just bury the tenon using a wedge or just glue, I suppose, but I'd hate to rely on glue to hold it together. I love the idea of just using a dovetail, but on a wide table, your joinery had better be perfect or you'd never get it together. I suspect that is why you don't see it too often. If you pare down your dovetails to make the fit easier, the joint will be too loose. Thanks for the vid!
Great stuff! I really like the dowel button idea. Seems sturdy & very easy to batch out. Once again, you always impress with the innovation you bring to the craft!
Glad you like it!
The dowels are a great idea but I really love the sliding dovetails. That would make some really awesome serving trays, box feet, foot stools, or any smaller items like that! You're a fantastic woodworker and I love your brainstorming and creative ideas. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much! I love a sliding Dovetail too
I really like your idea to attach a cabinet top! I'm going to do that.TY -
I’m going to refer to this video repeatedly; thanks for the great reference! Side note: wonderful and consistent Lund quality in the new shop.
Thanks for the video, it explains the options well. I am just starting design of a table, and htis gives some ideas. I did find some washers at Lee Valley that are elongated, and can be milled into the skirts to provide motion. It would depend on the skirt width though. I like the dowel idea, nice and simple.
Glad it was helpful!
Great tips! Dowels are nice and easy. The square buttons are my choice and not hard to make with hand tools
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The dowel idea is ingenious! It's one of those head smacking "WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT! "
Hah glad you think so!
I love the dowel buttons!
как всегда, отличная наглядность. очень хорошие уроки для тех, у кого маленький столярный опыт. спасибо за твои видео 😊
Thanks for the video.
I like the dowel version the best cheap easy and gets the job done. If you do not glue it together and the dowel breaks you can pull out broken dowel and replace. Take a snack sized plastic bag and put a few spares, that way after a move or other rough use of the table and a few break you do not have to go and find them, and if you make the table for someone else they will thank you for spares.
Super wood connection idea, very simple but with a good effect. Thanks for the video Tamar
Glad you liked it!
The dowel buttons are a great idea, good thinking. What I do often is to put two or three pocket holes about 1 1/2" apart in the center of the end rails. This holds the top securely and helps resist pulling the top off when lifting the table and keeps the top centered. If you want one side pinned down, put the pocket holes along that side. Then use one of the floating methods everywhere else.
Yup!
Good tips.
I have a large table I rescued from the dumpster that uses pocket holes to attach the apron to the top.
It didn't act like MDF when I repaired a pocket hole in one of the aprons.
It hasn't split, but even though it didn't act like MDF when I put the screws back into it, it could have a laminate on the top to make it look like hardwood.
Maybe. I had a table split when I used pocket holes
Thanks for giving all these options! I knew the method using buttons (the dowel version is genius!) but I’m about to put some seats onto triangular stool bases, and the oversized hole seems the best for that. I had been wondering how to install them for a while - thanks for posting this vid just in time for me :-)
Glad it was helpful!
I vote for the dowel buttons! Thanks for sharing and giving us more options to think about.
Cool ideas. I have seen the dowel in slots before but never the button idea. I never realized why it was done but knew my kitchen table is assembled with screws through oversized holes.
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Clear and complete, tip of the hat to you.
Thank you for the excellent list of options! I've bookmarked this video for future reference.
Making buttons on the CNC is the way to go! Those angle brackets looked pretty interesting, I might try those on a small night stand or dresser sometime. The dowel was a clever idea and probably faster if you didn't have the jig you showed for the table saw.
I enjoy very much watching You building things and the jigs, lots of interesting ideas specially for the beginner who has not too many tools... About the last method You showed, The Button Dowels seem pretty good specially where I am there is not much hardware I can find in stores.. The question arises: if I have to move the table (assembled) and I pick it up from the edges... how much the different holders will stand raising the whole weight of the assembled table???
Thanks for sharing all Your knowledge and being such a great teacher...
I love to see tricks and tips for woodworking. Thanks for this informative video ☺️
Glad you liked it!
Well done my favorite is the dove tail joint now thats cool
Dowel buttons are awesome and super clever, as expected of tamar!
I bought z-clips to use in a kerf slot similar to the button, but this gave an idea to perhaps glue/fix in the clip at the center of the small ends, ir use an angle bracket there instead.
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Dowel buttons and all those fixtures are good. For smaller projects like top of the wooden chair, old craftsmen in my country used something similar to non-dowel buttons, from hardwood, but slot in apron/stretcher was more like made by bisquit jointer, slightly anled like to uphil on one side, and button was pivoting on thicker bolt locking the top to frame, allowing wood movement. And such joint could have been disassembled in no time, just by turning all those nobs away from their slots in frame.
Definitely gonna try that dowel button
Great video and knowledge
Nice to see you back in your new shop.
Nice to be back!
All great techniques. Thanks for the demos.
Thanks! I ordered some of the "expansion" brackets. I didn't know they existed. I'm in the process of making a small table and was planning on going to the hardware and finding some off-the-shelf L brackets that I could rework with a slot to do this. Didn't know I could just buy them if I knew what to search for.
You are fantastic! How simple and clear way of revealing the topic. Thank you, your video was so helpful
A method to possibly add to your list. Back in the old days (early in the Norm Dynasty), I was taught (I don't remember from where) to use 2 washers in the same way as the figure-8s that are available now. The washers are larger and have to overlap. One is screwed to the rail. The second is screwed in position on the top to overlap the first. It's the friction of the overlap that keeps the top on the base. Shallow mortising on the rail helps to hide, just like the figure-8s. I just always assumed that the figure-8s were a gadget based on this method. PROs: 1) Cheap! ...especially in quantity. 2) Works for both grain directions. CON: Takes a some fiddling and experimentation in the beginning to figure out the best way to mount them. Fender washers can make it easier since there is more area, but have to be cut/filed down to not be visible on the outside of the rails.
Sounds cool