GROWING in SOIL vs COCO for SUNFLOWER MICROGREENS!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2020
- 🤯Today's video focuses on growing Sunflower Microgreens with Organic Soil vs CocoCoir as the grow medium, both which we watered with no nutrients...just plain'ole unfiltered tap water!
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The coco coir may not be the culprit for damping off; it could be that the soil contains beneficial microorganisms that supported the sunflower immune system against ambient issues.
Thank you for the picture of the coco not to use. In the beginning you had a burpee coco brick in your hands so I thought that was what you were using. I use it and it is AWESOME! But you didn't add nutrients to your coco tray like usual. Do you think that may or may not have a difference? Maybe do a test with coco added with nutrients and one coco without? Thank you for the great video again. I have grown the MOST beautiful microgreens because of you two. I used to follow a guy on youtube that also wrote a book but following his advice...my microgreens and plants died!!! Been gardening for years. Just started microgreens because of your channel and now have my own small business!!
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Great info guys..... thank you x
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Very interesting video, with the new surprise fungal issue. thanks for addressing that and showing what to do.
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Love all the info y'all provide. My sunflower should be arriving tomorrow and i can't wait to start my first tray!
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@@OnTheGrow what is your favorite brand of the coco coir.
And we're do you buy your coco coir
So...given that coir holds much more water than soil, don't you think that giving them the same amount of water was the cause of damping off rather than bad coir? And coir has no nutrients at all, so was at a disadvantage from the start. I don't feel like you gave this a fair test.
Thank you.
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Hi CJ, thanks for this very honest video, speaking of the slow germination. I had the same issue of slow germination and some stunted growth just like you, but without soaking. The boat and the UK is cold at the moment, so that's probably the reason for the s-l-o-wwwww growth🤔
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Had some coir left over from spider plants and was considering using it for sunflower greens. Might still go for it anyway with some added nutrients.
I use a combination of soil and coco coir. Probably 75% soil 25% coco coir. I have really good success. 🇨🇦❤️
I’m using all coco, have had mould/fungi issues, how did you get to your 75/50 mix, any mould issues? This is mainly with sunflowers for me... 🌱Greg in Ladner, bc
Greg Fee . No issues of any kind.
Why the mix rather than 100% coco
@@gregfee1120 . I have always used only soil but decided to try adding some coco coir and see if there are any different results. So far I don't really notice anything better or worse.
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Have you ever grown in organic vermiculite? I'm interested to know how that would work?
Curious your thoughts on adding a bit of used coffee grounds into coco coir grow medium - mixed in coffee into ~ top 1/3 of coir.
Loved you experiment with coco vs soil . I am ready to try my first batch of sun seeds.
However, one question…. Can the soil and coco be reused for
A second or third batch?
Great video as always, guys! Love those red stems! :)
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Great video. I am new to microgreens, but have been growing full sized veggies for quite a while now. I know that reducing the nutrition a plant has will yield a less healthy crop. It is possible your coconut coir group was not able to fend off disease due to a lack of nutrition while your soil group had plenty of nutrition. If you were to do this again, I would suggest making your population size at least 5 from each group. I'd also encourage you to use your ocean nutrient solution on the coconut coir group as this is how you normally grow the microgreens. It is surprising to me that you thought the less nutrient shoots tasted better than the soil group, but with only a population of 2 (and you probably really only got a sample from one tray per group), it is hard to tell if that is a group trait or just a random occurrence (especially since you noted a patch that was abnormal to the rest of the tray on one of the groups). I say this in the most constructive way possible. I love your videos and hope you continue making them.
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Id like to see the same experiment again only adding nutrients to both. You guys are awesome!!
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What was the tall stem magenta leaf plants growing on the left above the sunflowers on the lighting rack?
Can you tell me what kind of nutrients you addto your waterfor bottom watering?
Thank you so much for your helpful videos! Where did you guys learn how to grow microgreens initially?
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Hey there, cool vid. I have a question about the lights. When you say they add up to 6k lumens, does that mean that individual lumens of each lamp stacks? Because I cant find T5's with such a high lumen value.
I have been growing outdoors (southern hemisphere) and with the cold Early-Spring temperatures I needed to have sunflowers under weights for 9 days and then in blackout for 2 days and another 2 days of "sunlight". That's crazy slow, cos in the heat of summer I could grow a batch in as little as 5 days. I will start growing again next month.
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Where can I get your black & pink trays?
Great job bro👍
What's the light that you use, please could you help us??
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Are does Barrina 20w, 8’ or 4’? I can’t seem to find 8’ in 20w.
Hi, potting mix is not soil, is it?
I would love to see an experiment of only coco coir where one tray gets nutrient and the other doesn't. You guys have inspired me to grow my own and I am debating if I should get nutrient for the coco coir
We’re actually working on a few just like this! Should be posting one about using worm castings in coco on Wednesday!
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They grow fine with no nutrient. The problem finally dawned on me after doing it for some time. The seed has sufficient nutrients to carry to the microgreen stage, but does the resulting plant have sufficient nutrients for me? I don't know. So I started using nutrients.
have you tried a coco coir test with vermiculite?
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What about the purple enhancemt
QUESTION?! Do you measure the 100g before or after soaking? Cheers! Thanks
We do both because we like to see how much it expands into. Technically it would be better to weigh it after they have soaked and you've drained off any pooling water.
No we do not! 17 hours ON and 7hours OFF everyday. :)
After watching this video I was thinking . Maybe you could mix the Coco with the soil. At different %. It would be interesting to see if you get the color from the Coco.
What if you treated coco coir with hydrogen peroxide first. I’m going to start up a grow business but I’m on the fence between soil mix or coco coir. Also what to do with used medium after harvest ? Recycle or not ? Thanks.
Great question! You could definitely treat the coco with a prophylactic ahead of time to reduce any chances of mold or pathogens. Some people even bake theirs in the oven... We like to compost ours to be reused later in our outdoor garden! We've seen people strain out the debris from the coco and sanitize it to be reused for microgreens, but we find that to be a bit tedious....
I would imagine baking the coco bricks beforehand might eliminate the fungal issue. 🤔
Anyone from Australia find the trays he's using? Can't find decent trays here.
What if you adjusted the amount of water so that the coco coir got less water and the soil got more. Maybe this brand of coco is just not as absorbant? Not that I'm rooting for it. I was happy that the potting soil "won" since I already have soil.
Can you use any sunflower seeds or are there some better?
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So... as per another video of yours from September 2020, about sunflowers, no peroxide treatment at all with this?
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Programming note. I like the shorter intro😉
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When you water directly from the faucet, are you concerned about PH balance?
When they say tap water they mean to say it has no nutrients. But they do ph balance the water
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@@justbill62 how much pH should be maintained for watering
Why don'y you scratch mix your own soil with no or very low nitrogen inputs but with a light charge of other minerals? Would be interesting to see lab tests on nutritional values using inert mediums vs feeding micro greens. Great Video!
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Coco Coir holds more moisture…..2 cups of water a day is too much. Aim for 1 to 1.5 cups of water a day, and only if needed. Also soil has nutrients built in and coco coir doesn’t, so adding nutrients to your water source is essential. I use an ocean nutrient.
AWESOME VIDEO!!! I had to watch right away!!! I'm using Plantonix coco from your store. I just tossed out some sunflower micro's on day 6 yesterday:( I overwatered and it smelled BAD. About that! I have some cilantro on day 7, following your video. They haven't fully popped yet HOWEVER I think I overwatered in the beginning and the coco smells BAD. I sprayed with peroxide and cracked the lid. I heard some crackle... Should I toss it and start over over? Do you think the coco infected?
You might be able to salvage the cilantro, so I’d wait and see if the smell goes away. Just let it dry out a bit. Over-watering Coco can be easy to do because it retains water so well... we still accidentally over-water it 😆
If you have any stagnant water in your tray, tilt it into the sink and see if you can carefully pour out any excess. That way you can refresh the water quicker!
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What is the best place to get bulk coir? No we’re local has it. I tried Home Depot. But didn’t care for it. Liked Amazon better.
We’ve been trying to find a source as well... I wish there were some better local options and as soon as we figure something out, I’ll likely make a video on it! Let me know if you find a good local source. I did find some coco coir bricks at Walmart last year, and they were incredibly cheap and did an amazing job. Like $7.00 per brick compared to the standard of $20 on Amazon. I bought all 50 they had because they were discontinuing them and I haven’t seen them restock it yet. Disappointing because it did a great job, was supposedly organic and had an amazing price point.
I have so many questions but not all questions are on UA-cam if anyone knows where I can find answers please let me know, I’m trying to plant micro greens but I wanna know what kind of temperature it needs to be in and many more questions.
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Do you mix anything with the coco coir ?
From what I gathered from their previous videos, no they do not add anything when using coco other than their ocean solution when they bottom water.
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I miss seeing your trailer. It seemed to be such a great setup.
We’re back in it and it looks a lot cooler 😎
My cocoir has been causing extreme damping issues for months. What brand have you had success with?
I've had the same, but exclusively with sunflowers. I thought it was surely the seeds, but this is making me think there might be something with the combination that makes it more prevalent? Glad I didn't throw them out, so I can try them on a different soil medium.
@@Bordigan89 I'm about to try this stuff from sierra natural science called hydrobiotic which is organic and you mix it with the water you use to bottom water and it treats the soil for damping off.
If that doesn't work I only have 2 other options. Switch to this expensive burpees soil and use less hydroponic nutrients, or switch to promix with the shitty peat bog which is one of the most unsustainable resources on the planet and a massive carbon sink.... Running out of options...
I’m now using a second coco coir supplier and I still have the same damping off issue with sunflower. It grows great for the first 6-7 days and then the stems begin to rot. Using soils and mats I’ve never once run into this problem, only with coco coir.
I have a batch growing now and I’ve been careful not to over water it, thinking that may be the problem. But, the problem is persisting. I will add, that one of the two sunflower seed types I’m using is not having this problem, as of yet anyway. We’ll see come harvest.
If anyone has any more information on this problem, please share your experience and thoughts. I’d like to make the switch to coco coir, because of the space I can save storing it, but I need to work out this problem with the sunflower before I can commit to the switch. Thanks everybody!!
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Did you sterilize the Coco first?
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Best blind taste test yet. You looked like daredevil.
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Where do yo buy your coco coir big blocks?
They have a link in the box that goes straight to Amazon. Looks like they are going back to burpee who has coco coir. Like 8.99 for a brick i think that makes 8 quarts. Hope that helps!
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You can treat the coco coir with hydrogen peroxide:)
Luv the comparison but coir doesn't have nutrients..coir w/ nutrients would blow it away.. just saying..put it to test... Thank You for vids.m
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It tasted very green 😂.
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More nitrogen, more growth. Makes sense :)
Lol, truth! Sometimes we noticed negative effects from nitrogen though… it’s really crazy how many factors and how they’re applied can have an affect on the growth of micros!
If you had chicken, you could give it to them.
Look into soil science, read "Teaming With Microbes" by Jeff Lowenfels, then you'll begin to understand why using an inert medium (such as coco) to grow plants is just a bad idea. A tablespoon of healthy soil contains like 5 billion living organisms, most of which are beneficial, and compete against pathogens.
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Is not a fair test if u dont give nutriens on the coco coir, nutrient in the soil will make the difference… pretty disappointed
Coir is pronounced 'koy-er'. It has nothing to do with the french word noir.