Well Matt Eberflus already made it on dumb decisions this season against Denver when he decided to for it on 4th and short instead of kicking the field goal. Which failed and Denver was able to drive down the field and scored with just 3 plays. As as result. Denver won that game 31-28
Gibron was sound bite gold. Steve Sabol of NFL Films fame loved wiring him for sound...including singing "Joy To The World" as you referenced during the video.
Mark Trestman has a notebook of head scratchers. Attempting a game winning 49 yard field goal in OT @ the Vikings in 2013 on 2nd down, with Matt Forte in the backfield who never fumbled. Gould missed, Bears missed the playoffs thanks to a tiebreaker.
Matt Forte was extremely underrated and under appreciated. Marc Trestman had more then a few head scratchers. Hiring him was the worst decision the team has made in my lifetime. He was an AWFUL coach.
At the end of the 1973 season I was 15 And heard a comment from a sports writer. I thought was funny. He said he thought the Bears were three players short of having a good team, the father, son, and Holy Ghost.
I remember when Gibron coached the Bears. I *think* what ol' Abe was trying to say was that, to simplify things, let's say there are three parts of the team that all stank against the Saints, the offense, defense and special teams. But that, in his opinion, the team had showed that it could usually manage to execute well in at least two of those areas per game, so far in the season. By that logic, it wasn't all that likely that all three sectors of the team would stink in the same game, but now that it had happened, it was WAY less likely to happen again the next week. It only makes sense in the strange world of pro sports, but the logic was more like "I flipped a coin and it came up tails three times, the odds are that won't happen again next week" rather than "I have to work on the execution of the offensive line, make sure the players aren't offsides all the time, and drill them on their routes." He was a simple man, and the simple way to look at it was always how he looked at it, lol.
Yes. IMO, the outrage was overdone. In the pictured article Abe says it's an intensity/preparation problem ("game of emotions"), and so he's got only one (big) job this week -- fix everybody's attitude -- and that's more urgent than fixing specific technique, personnel, and execution problems. I've heard similar remarks before. It's not an unusual posture for an embarrassed coach.
Call Gibron the worst coach. But the bottom line is that out-of-touch Halas was still calling the shots. He was the one who passed over George Allen to be his successor, so he could hang on as head coach for a couple more meaningless years. He was the one who made that disastrous trade w/GB giving up the #2 overall pick in ‘70. And yes, he hired Dooley & Gibron. It wasn’t until Halas finally realized he was no longer up to the task of running the team & handing over control to Jim Finks, that things finally began to turn for the better.
Even with Finks doing a better job as GM, Chicago, during the mid/late 70's and covering Walter Payton's first part of his career, always seemed like if was content to be just a "bubble team", happy if they won 10-7 as much as if they'd won games by 3-4 TDs. Despite having good, later great defenses under Buddy Ryan, the late 70's never had anything remotely close to a decent QB, much less a good, Pro-Bowl caliber one like Ken Stabler, Jim Ferguson, Brian Sipe, or even Tommy Kramer. A good QB, in Finks view, wasnt a priority even in Minnesota because he was lucky enough to have a future HOFer in Fran Tarkenton and that supposed disparity, prevented Bears from being a better team and perhaps advancing further then they did. Before the 1979 season, Chicago had a chance to trade for Oakland's Kenny Stabler, a SB-winning QB and 4-time Pro Bowler, who still had some momentum left in him, Finks response was, " Maybe we'll trade for him for a third-or-fourth rounder, otherwise, we're happy with who we have". In 1979, Bears had the terrible QB's of Bob Avellini, Vince Evans. A better, Pro-Bowl caliber QB like a Sipe or Stabler would've made some difference for those teams.
Sounds like you’re judging Finks w/today’s expectations of quick turnarounds made possible w/the salary cap & modern free agency rules. Well, “merely” making the playoffs was a significant step up from Halas’ final decade of being a GM of having no winning records at all. And while Finks was no longer at the helm for the SB XX season, his fingerprints were all over that great team.
@@SamWesting Dude, he didn’t even try to make the QB position better when he was GM and he had his opportunities. Most Bears scouts wanted the team to draft Joe Montana, in fact, some expected him, too to do just that. Didn’t happen. I’ve already told you the story about Ken Stabler in 1979, he made the team better at mostly every other positions except the one that really mattered most and that’s the QB. You may have made the playoffs twice under Finks and the roster was improved, but any success Chicago achieved in the late 70’s was due to Walter Payton and a burgeoning, aggressive dominant defense that was good, but not great just yet. A good, Pro Bowl caliber QB would’ve likely gotten Bears more success under Finks and my assertion still stands that yes, he had opportunities to get a decent QB, he instead settled for scabs or also-rans.
Out of context, but anyone notice just how much starting this year, the Bears, as well as a lot of channels referencing current events involving them online, such as JG here and UTree, and even the NFL itself, has been using that secondary bear logo that they used before as their primary? I wonder why.
The Bears announced this summer that the "Bear Head" is now the primary logo. The "C" will remain on the helmet at midfield. Yeah backwards, My Bears ...
@@irishbearman1044they should've adopted the Bill Swarski's Superfans aesthetic, imo. Having a mascot that's just a dude in a Chris Farley character costume who has minor heart attacks throughout games would legitimately be great imo
Since you probably never watched a football game in 1973, I suggest you would have been better off to post a picture of Tony DeFranco and The DeFranco Family, and linking the song "Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat" than covering NFL football.
Was this the same game where the Saints tried to punch the ball in at the goal line only to fumble it and the ball rolled backwards to about the 40-yd line before the Bears recovered it? I saw it in an old follies video.
I would like to see the Saints and Buccaneers play one of their yearly games vs one another: * in Aints era design vs Creamsicle unis * Where both teams are required to use at least 1 "trick" play or formation per quarter * featuring manningcast-esque commentary by classic Saints and Bucs QBs of the 80s/90s, Bobby Hebert and Vinny Testaverde (two legends of arm punting) * for the prize of an edible W-shaped trophy Saints/Bucs, imo, is a rivalry that always should've been hilarious even when both teams have been great in the past... ive been a saints fan my whole life, and ive never figured out why we didn't do this up like it's LSU/Alabama. All im sayin' is Baker Mayfield vs Jameis Winston, all four quarters + both offenses airing it out like they only know one play in Madden and it's four verts = the inaugural NO-TB Turnover Bowl... and every year at halftime, Mike Evans and Marshon Lattimore compete in a different game against one another until well past retirement. When Lattimore says "You sunk my battleship!" and the cannons go off at Raymond James it'll be bigger than Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction, trust me. :)
@6:45, I wouldn't call the 1973 New Orleans Saints the "laughing stock and punching bag of the NFL". That year they won 4 more games than the Oilers, and beat the Redskins, a team who in 1972 went to the Super Bowl, and in 73 earned a playoff spot with a 10-4 record. Let's have less of your Donald Trump opinions and more facts.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Your statement is invalid because IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE 1973 New Orleans Saints. Your statement was not about the 1967 New Orleans Saints. Your statement was not about the 1968 New Orleans Saints. Your statement was not about the 1969 Saints, etc, etc, etc. Your statement is invalid, an out and out lie because the New Orleans Saints were not the worst team in the league; they did not even come close. Do you know how many teams lost double digit figures in 1973? The New Orleans Saints did not. I can think of 7 teams worse than the 1973 New Orleans Saints.
@@newtheis So because a team goes 5-9 they're not a laughingstock but if they were 4-10 my statement would be valid. Laughingstock = a person or thing subjected to general mockery or ridicule That absolutely summed up the Saints prior to the 1980s
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about Archie Griffin’s game against the Falcons in 1978. In that video you created a bar chart showing the Saints in a color intended to stand out as you did for this video. I’m guessing you find some resemblance between the reason for the bar color in the Archie Griffin video and Gibron’s postgame explanation.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate and try to parse out what he might have been trying to say. It still won't make sense, but I'll give it a try. It's easier if everything goes wrong because you throw the entire playbook out and start from scratch. If it's one thing wrong, you have to agonize over what it is about that one thing that needs fixing. If the entire game is a fuck-up, you just throw everything out and start over for the next game.
I think he meant if something like 30% of the team gets it together, they would have won? I dont think its good logic but i play poker with someone with Abe logic
Many clips are of the Saints 62-7 loss vs Atlanta. The most important fact of that game is that the Falcons starting QB was named Dick Shiner
Somewhere in the multiverse is a universe where Dick Shiner became a huge star and a household name.
I wish I lived in that universe..
😢
Now THIS is the coach Kevin James should’ve played in a Netflix movie!
Matt Eberflus will do something worse than Abe Gibron. I just have an instinct in me.
Well Matt Eberflus already made it on dumb decisions this season against Denver when he decided to for it on 4th and short instead of kicking the field goal. Which failed and Denver was able to drive down the field and scored with just 3 plays. As as result. Denver won that game 31-28
Good call
@@joeraguso5376 My instincts were right this time.
@@anthonymendez1997thanksgiving 2024 will go down in history. You’re a god damned magician 😂😂😂
Gibron was sound bite gold. Steve Sabol of NFL Films fame loved wiring him for sound...including singing "Joy To The World" as you referenced during the video.
Sabol himself appears in this video at the 10:48 mark.
Mark Trestman has a notebook of head scratchers. Attempting a game winning 49 yard field goal in OT @ the Vikings in 2013 on 2nd down, with Matt Forte in the backfield who never fumbled. Gould missed, Bears missed the playoffs thanks to a tiebreaker.
Matt forte from Tulane? Yeah he was a good runner imo
Matt Forte was extremely underrated and under appreciated. Marc Trestman had more then a few head scratchers. Hiring him was the worst decision the team has made in my lifetime. He was an AWFUL coach.
I remember he was on the expansion Tampa Bay Buccaneers coaching staff.
"F**KING PANTS!"
For a big fat guy, he was pretty fast.
The definitive of "I'm sorry... what?"
At the end of the 1973 season I was 15 And heard a comment from a sports writer. I thought was funny. He said he thought the Bears were three players short of having a good team, the father, son, and Holy Ghost.
Gibron would call a timeout to tell his quarterback to run out the clock, classic Gibron. LMFAO.
I remember when Gibron coached the Bears. I *think* what ol' Abe was trying to say was that, to simplify things, let's say there are three parts of the team that all stank against the Saints, the offense, defense and special teams. But that, in his opinion, the team had showed that it could usually manage to execute well in at least two of those areas per game, so far in the season. By that logic, it wasn't all that likely that all three sectors of the team would stink in the same game, but now that it had happened, it was WAY less likely to happen again the next week. It only makes sense in the strange world of pro sports, but the logic was more like "I flipped a coin and it came up tails three times, the odds are that won't happen again next week" rather than "I have to work on the execution of the offensive line, make sure the players aren't offsides all the time, and drill them on their routes." He was a simple man, and the simple way to look at it was always how he looked at it, lol.
Yes. IMO, the outrage was overdone. In the pictured article Abe says it's an intensity/preparation problem ("game of emotions"), and so he's got only one (big) job this week -- fix everybody's attitude -- and that's more urgent than fixing specific technique, personnel, and execution problems.
I've heard similar remarks before. It's not an unusual posture for an embarrassed coach.
Gibron's optimism paid off the next week in Atlanta.
Oh, wait. The Falcons won 46-6
Not going to lie,
Abe Gibron singing Three Dog Night is something I'd pay to see!
Call Gibron the worst coach. But the bottom line is that out-of-touch Halas was still calling the shots. He was the one who passed over George Allen to be his successor, so he could hang on as head coach for a couple more meaningless years. He was the one who made that disastrous trade w/GB giving up the #2 overall pick in ‘70. And yes, he hired Dooley & Gibron. It wasn’t until Halas finally realized he was no longer up to the task of running the team & handing over control to Jim Finks, that things finally began to turn for the better.
Even with Finks doing a better job as GM, Chicago, during the mid/late 70's and covering Walter Payton's first part of his career, always seemed like if was content to be just a "bubble team", happy if they won 10-7 as much as if they'd won games by 3-4 TDs. Despite having good, later great defenses under Buddy Ryan, the late 70's never had anything remotely close to a decent QB, much less a good, Pro-Bowl caliber one like Ken Stabler, Jim Ferguson, Brian Sipe, or even Tommy Kramer. A good QB, in Finks view, wasnt a priority even in Minnesota because he was lucky enough to have a future HOFer in Fran Tarkenton and that supposed disparity, prevented Bears from being a better team and perhaps advancing further then they did. Before the 1979 season, Chicago had a chance to trade for Oakland's Kenny Stabler, a SB-winning QB and 4-time Pro Bowler, who still had some momentum left in him, Finks response was, " Maybe we'll trade for him for a third-or-fourth rounder, otherwise, we're happy with who we have". In 1979, Bears had the terrible QB's of Bob Avellini, Vince Evans. A better, Pro-Bowl caliber QB like a Sipe or Stabler would've made some difference for those teams.
Sounds like you’re judging Finks w/today’s expectations of quick turnarounds made possible w/the salary cap & modern free agency rules. Well, “merely” making the playoffs was a significant step up from Halas’ final decade of being a GM of having no winning records at all. And while Finks was no longer at the helm for the SB XX season, his fingerprints were all over that great team.
Don’t worry. It’s 50 years later and we’re just as retarded
@@SamWesting Dude, he didn’t even try to make the QB position better when he was GM and he had his opportunities. Most Bears scouts wanted the team to draft Joe Montana, in fact, some expected him, too to do just that. Didn’t happen. I’ve already told you the story about Ken Stabler in 1979, he made the team better at mostly every other positions except the one that really mattered most and that’s the QB. You may have made the playoffs twice under Finks and the roster was improved, but any success Chicago achieved in the late 70’s was due to Walter Payton and a burgeoning, aggressive dominant defense that was good, but not great just yet. A good, Pro Bowl caliber QB would’ve likely gotten Bears more success under Finks and my assertion still stands that yes, he had opportunities to get a decent QB, he instead settled for scabs or also-rans.
Finks is in the NFL HOF while you…are a legend in your own mind.
This was one week after that famous game where he was mic’d for NFL films in the game against the Broncos.
"Jeremiah was a bullfrog huh?"
Out of context, but anyone notice just how much starting this year, the Bears, as well as a lot of channels referencing current events involving them online, such as JG here and UTree, and even the NFL itself, has been using that secondary bear logo that they used before as their primary? I wonder why.
The Bears announced this summer that the "Bear Head" is now the primary logo. The "C" will remain on the helmet at midfield. Yeah backwards, My Bears ...
@@irishbearman1044they should've adopted the Bill Swarski's Superfans aesthetic, imo.
Having a mascot that's just a dude in a Chris Farley character costume who has minor heart attacks throughout games would legitimately be great imo
3:27 Thanks for the snot rockets, Abe!
Did Gibron really wanna fix the whole team instead of one or two specific areas?! He seemed to believe in working harder instead of smarter.
Since you probably never watched a football game in 1973, I suggest you would have been better off to post a picture of Tony DeFranco and The DeFranco Family, and linking the song "Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat" than covering NFL football.
I mean, I literally was not alive in 1973
Also I literally can’t do any of the song suggestions you’re saying because of copyright law
Many years ago, NFL Network ran a documentary about NFL'S Top Ten Worst Coaches.
How in the blue Hell did Abe Gibron not make that list? 🤨
Was this the same game where the Saints tried to punch the ball in at the goal line only to fumble it and the ball rolled backwards to about the 40-yd line before the Bears recovered it?
I saw it in an old follies video.
Welcome to the LOLBEARS
Don't remind me. 😫
I would like to see the Saints and Buccaneers play one of their yearly games vs one another:
* in Aints era design vs Creamsicle unis
* Where both teams are required to use at least 1 "trick" play or formation per quarter
* featuring manningcast-esque commentary by classic Saints and Bucs QBs of the 80s/90s, Bobby Hebert and Vinny Testaverde (two legends of arm punting)
* for the prize of an edible W-shaped trophy
Saints/Bucs, imo, is a rivalry that always should've been hilarious even when both teams have been great in the past... ive been a saints fan my whole life, and ive never figured out why we didn't do this up like it's LSU/Alabama.
All im sayin' is Baker Mayfield vs Jameis Winston, all four quarters + both offenses airing it out like they only know one play in Madden and it's four verts = the inaugural NO-TB Turnover Bowl... and every year at halftime, Mike Evans and Marshon Lattimore compete in a different game against one another until well past retirement.
When Lattimore says "You sunk my battleship!" and the cannons go off at Raymond James it'll be bigger than Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction, trust me. :)
@6:45, I wouldn't call the 1973 New Orleans Saints the "laughing stock and punching bag of the NFL". That year they won 4 more games than the Oilers, and beat the Redskins, a team who in 1972 went to the Super Bowl, and in 73 earned a playoff spot with a 10-4 record. Let's have less of your Donald Trump opinions and more facts.
The Saints wins by season from 1967-73: 3, 4, 5, 2, 4, 2, 5
Don’t know how that makes my statement invalid at all. They were absolutely a punching bag
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Your statement is invalid because IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE 1973 New Orleans Saints. Your statement was not about the 1967 New Orleans Saints. Your statement was not about the 1968 New Orleans Saints. Your statement was not about the 1969 Saints, etc, etc, etc. Your statement is invalid, an out and out lie because the New Orleans Saints were not the worst team in the league; they did not even come close. Do you know how many teams lost double digit figures in 1973? The New Orleans Saints did not. I can think of 7 teams worse than the 1973 New Orleans Saints.
@@newtheis So because a team goes 5-9 they're not a laughingstock but if they were 4-10 my statement would be valid.
Laughingstock = a person or thing subjected to general mockery or ridicule
That absolutely summed up the Saints prior to the 1980s
Abe Gibron actually said that he was glad the whole team stunk. I feel an I'm sorry... WHAT coming on.
Gibron was a goof but the fans & players loved him. Said what was on his mind. Long time Halas guy. Dark time in bears history
12 out of 28 was great for Bobby Douglass. The most exciting quarterback I have ever seen. You never know what he was going to do next.
I just noticed that he had a huge head too. His hat band is down to the last divot.
All Gibron needed to do was just examine the whys of the game
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about Archie Griffin’s game against the Falcons in 1978. In that video you created a bar chart showing the Saints in a color intended to stand out as you did for this video. I’m guessing you find some resemblance between the reason for the bar color in the Archie Griffin video and Gibron’s postgame explanation.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate and try to parse out what he might have been trying to say. It still won't make sense, but I'll give it a try.
It's easier if everything goes wrong because you throw the entire playbook out and start from scratch. If it's one thing wrong, you have to agonize over what it is about that one thing that needs fixing. If the entire game is a fuck-up, you just throw everything out and start over for the next game.
I think he meant if something like 30% of the team gets it together, they would have won?
I dont think its good logic but i play poker with someone with Abe logic
And, he was very obscene in his gestures according to a "lost treasure" by the late Steve Sabol.
Abe Giron: I won just 27% of my games that I coached.
Matt Eberflus: Hold my beer.
Is this the Jeremiah was a bullfrog guy?? I only remember him as a buccaneer staff member.
Yep