First time reacting to 'Maude' | Husbands vs. Wives (Reaction and Discussion!)
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- Florida's (Esther Rolle) husband Henry (John Amos) wants her to stop working, but Maude (Bea Arthur) promptly stands up for her.... even if it means starting an argument with Walter (Bill Macy)!
From Season 1, Episode 18 'Florida's Problem' - Florida arrives at Maude's in a bad mood. She tells Maude that her husband wants her to quit her job, but she does not want to.
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Just so you youngsters know, in 1975 , I as a wife, had to have my husband's permission to have a tubal ligation. Young women today may not realize how far we have come.
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I believe that in some states that is still true today. Also, most doctors will NOT do a tubal ligation for single women under 40 - it's still a very patriarchal way of dealing with women's health and rights over her own body.
@@kriswoods7051 Of the 62 percent of females on birth control, findings revealed 28 percent of U.S. women who have undergone tubal sterilisation report regret. Female sterilisation is the SECOND MOST COMMON form of contraception in the United States, with an estimated 10.2 million. American women who have undergone sterilisation surgery. If it's NUMBER TWO there is no patriarchy preventing the procedure. Men get sterilized far less around 4.6 percent because we hate the idea. I've heard women argue that they feel their husbands should get sterilized, but men don't like that idea of being cut on down there. The tired narrative of the patriarchy doesn't fit here. Maybe doctors are reluctant becuase some woman will be on UA-cam having a public therpy session about her regret and depression. Make sure you're sure.
Society act like woment get pregnant by shear will. No, male DNA MUST be introduced. It's this hyping woment for doing what they were created to do and in the same breath blaming men because they were created to carry children. Somehow that was ideal of men. Also, some doctors request that men get their wive's permisson to get a vacetamy. It's reported that vacetamies have increased among young single males since the supreme court's decision on abortion. I say fine, great. Male or female, if you want to sleep around, do it. Stop penalizing the unborn for their irresponsibility. Just get yourself sterilized.
Now you permission for abortion, IVF in some states. I live in New Orleans and I'm disgusted by the way my state treats females, males, trans, every single minority in this state is under assault by Jeff Landry and Republicans in Baton Rouge. Pray for our liberation, we are fighting for in New Orleans.
The feminists of the 60s, 70s and 80s in the U.S. were a throughline from feminists who marched for equal and voting rights mere decades before. They still had a lot of groundbreaking to do in order to get closer to equality with men. Many wedding vows still had women promising to "obey" their husband and this is likely why this scene in "Maude" was so poignant at the time. These two women were banding together to disobey their husbands. Maude's shows that dealt with abortion rights and gay rights were even more cutting edge for their time. Check those out too.
Are anyone of you familiar with The Golden Girls? Maude is Bea Arthur (Dorothy) from that show.
Yup! Thats actually where I mostly know her from! - Joe
With the _UTMOST_ respect, *PLEASE* do not worry about offending or coming off as unaware. Uniformly, y’all seemed so uncomfortable/hesitant to discuss the episode. Personally, I want to hear your opinions (the lens of ppl born in the 90’s). If it’s any consolation, when I, for example, opine on Gen Z issues, I always emphasize that it’s from my 51 yr old vantage point. ✌🏽
We'll try to not hold anything back in the future! - Joe
@@typadudes Appreciate your response. Thanks. I hope you guys react to a “Friends” ep or two so you can see the contrast between it and “All In The Family”: both set in NYC 20 yrs apart, their respective residences 7 miles from each other but the sitcoms were so vastly different! In other words, not all shows were as topical (or as inclusive) as the Norman Lear productions. ✌🏽
Back in the 60s when I was 3 my parents divorced because my father refused to allow my Mom to work. Both my parents come from very traditional Mexican Catholic families and In their eyes, she was abandoning us the kids by leaving the home, but it was also demeaning to him by implying that his job was not enough for our family (he had a good job) in the eyes of everyone else. It was seen as the man's main job to financially make his family secure. The implication that he couldn't was emasculating. At that time, no woman in our family had ever worked. None of my aunts worked. None of the moms in my neighborhood worked. My grandmothers never worked. Only single moms worked on TV shows. So, I could see his perspective, but I could also see my Moms perspective in not wanting to live just as a housewife and not having her own money. Unfortunately, the divorce shattered our families throughout and never recovered. It also shattered my relationship with my parents. In my eyes at the time, everything that happened to my family was their fault. I went to Catholic schools and was the ONLY one with divorced parents all the way into high school. I had to invent stories to explain why my Grandpa was the one dropping me off and picking me up and why my parents never showed up to school events with me. I often wonder why I wasn't kicked out of school. It was easier to say they were dead and in a way they were to me. I ended up living with my grandparents for about half of my childhood.
While "Maude" spun off from "All In The Family", Florida was featured in a spin-off titled "Good Times", which was a spin-off for promotional purposes only, as Ester Rolle and John Amos played different versions of their characters on both shows ...
"Maude"
1) John Amos played Henry Evans, a firefighter.
2) The Evans family lived in Harlem.
3) Florida quit being Maude's maid because Henry received a promotion and began earning enough money that she could now stay home and raise their children full time.
"Good Times"
1) John Amos played James Evans, a chronically unemployed blue color worker (although he retained Henry's temper)
2) The Evans family lived in the Cabrini Green low-income housing projects in Chicago. No mention was ever made of them having ever lived in NYC (and the impression was, they'd always lived in Chicago)
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"Good Times" was co-created by Mike Evans (the actor who played Lionel on both "All In The Family" and "The Jeffersons"). It wasn't originally created as a spin-off - - as it was a semi-autobiographical show about Evans's real-life childhood - - and was only re-written as a project for Ester Rolle since they'd been toying with the idea of a "Maude" spin-off anyway.
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By the way, "All In The Family" had a ton of direct (and indirect) spin-offs ...
"Maude" (1972-1978) spun off "Good Times" (1974-1979) [not a true spin-off]
"The Jeffersons" (1975-1985) spun off "Checkin' In" (1981) [pilot episode added to syndication package for "The Jeffersons"]
"All In The Family" itself morphed into "Archie Bunker's Place" (1979-1983) and spun off "Gloria" (1982) [pilot episode added to syndication package for "Archie Bunker's Place"]
"704 Hauser Street" (1994) was about a black family that purchased Archie's house after his passing. The character of Joey Stivik, Archie's grandson, was featured in the pilot. Ironically, it starred John Amos as a republican whose son married a white Jewish woman.
You summed that up really well.
@@breckrichardson390 ... Thank you. I grew up watching a huge amount of TV as a kid. I'm a vast well of useless TV/Movie trivia facts. 😊
But I seem to remember that The Jeffersons lived next to Archie Bunker before they "moved on up"
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Yes, the Jeffersons was mentioned in my list of AITF spin-offs.
Mr. Lear still has most of his faculties about him, too. There are several interviews of him available here on UA-cam. In some of them, he opines on the comparison of Archie and Donald Trump.
I married in ‘71. Hub didn’t want me to work outside the home because he was a latchkey kid raised w/out a dad and didn’t want a similar situation for future kids. I, on the other hand, was planning on going into the medical field. Aced schooling & had a wealthy g’ma paying for college. I bailed on school & married. We’ve been married 52 years now, and to this day hub regrets his decision and throughout the years whenever he suggested me getting a job (lol), I tell him,’sorry. I’m exactly where and what you always wanted me to be…a homemaker/housewife/mom. Deal with it.
That’s right, if I were you and couldent work in my chosen field and it was suggested for me to go get any old job would be no!
You should watch the all in the family episode”Edith’s night Out”
Mad Magazine did a parody of Norman Lear's spin-offs starting with All in the Family. In the parody, all the shows merged at a big party or event, it was hilarious!
I grew up on Mad!
My older sister had that issue! I remember it as a youngster...lol
@@loritajohnson5664 Oh cool! I'm going to see if I can find it online.
It's true women could not have bank accounts without their husband's signature.
All in the family has an episode where Edith tries to open up a small account on her own and isn't able to do so
This show was on during the time when Congress had passed, what was meant to be The 26th Amendment. It was the ERA, or Equal Rights Amendment. It passed through Congress, and was sent to the states for ratification. It didn't get the required 38 states to ratify it, and it expired at the end of the decade. In the last decade or so, two more states agreed to ratify it, as it read, when Congress passed it. I think that brought the total to 34 states. Unfortunately, I don't think it could pass through the required 2/3 of both chambers again, even if The House starts working again.
Yes, these characters prove successful on Maude and came up with Good Times. But Maude was set in upper New York and they moved the Good Time characters to Chicago changing the husband's name from Henry to James. The actor who played Lionel (Mike Evans) in All in the Family and The Jefferson's is credited as creator of the show. Maybe he co wrote this episode but not sure. Have to look it up.
"Maude" was my personal favorite of all the Norman Lear shows. Bea Arthur nails and the rest of the cast was great. If you continue with more episodes, you'll see Rue McClanahan playing her best friend Vivian. She and Bea Arthur also co-starred together in "The Golden Girls". The writing was superb. Dialogue was controversial and humorous at the same time. You'll see more of Women's Rights issues as well as other political hot buttons. I'm hoping you'll do more of "Maude". Btw, where is the older gentleman who was in some of the other videos? I enjoyed his perspective of these shows.
To me, nothing tops Sanford and Son.
Agree wholeheartedly!
Womens rights have come far but I’m still blown away that we are still using Miss, Ms or Mrs. I can’t believe these antiquated prefixes are still applicable. A man or husband is always Mr. but a woman needs a prefix to alert everyone of her marital status. Totally drives me crazy. It needs to go away.
Btw I LOVE this channel. You are all so wise, insightful & well rounded. Keep the videos coming!
Ms. maybe thought of as attiquated but it stood for women regardless of their station in life. Married women were Mrs., Single women were Miss. Someone thought it okay to put Ms in effect so people couldn't judge a woman right off the cuff. On job applications you have the right to refuse to answer questions about religion, marital status, etc, so Ms is there for all women to use as a title in case she wanted to use a title with her name.
Thank you so much for your comment and support! We're really trying our best to learn more! - Joe
You guys need to watch Designing Women the episode. It may be the second of the series where Suzanne dates Mary-Joe's ex-husband all she wants from him is a thank you for putting him thru medical school. I'd also check out the Job Switching episode of I Live Lucy.
Alice Kramden of "The Honeymooners" was sort of the first woman's libber in television in a way (and this is going back to the 1950s). She would stand up to her husband Ralph all the time on that show. He would order her around and say he was THE KING OF THE CASTLE and she would pretty much tell him off. Back in the 1950s, most women stayed home while the men worked. In an episode of "The Honeymooners", Ralph gets laid off and Alice says she's going to go out and get a job . . . Ralph says, "While you are my wife, you will never work . . . I have my pride." It was a threat to his masculinity . . . afraid of what others would say, as if others would think, "wow, Ralph can't even support his wife." That's what it's about. Even today, it would also bother some men if the wife makes more money than he does.
Also in Good Times they lived in the ghetto on Government assistance b/cJames lost his job. Without Florida’s income the family of 5 was beyond struggling. I might suggest you get some younger minded grandparents to add to the discussion.
I know that episode well. The Honeymooners is one of my favorites. Archie Bunker was partially based on Ralph Kramden. As for the first women's libber on TV, it was possibly Lucy Ricardo on I Love Lucy. The main premise of that show was Ricky trying to exert his authority over Lucy, and Lucy constantly defying it and rebelling. Ricky wanted her at home but she wanted anything but to be "just a housewife." There was even an episode titled "Equal Rights."
I think the first libber was Sally Rogers onthe Dick Van Dyke show. She was a professional writer on equal par as men. 1961. Shemade her own decisions etc.
I was born in 71 so these are some of the first shows I remember. I grew up watching All in the Family, Maude, Good Times, Jeffersons, and One Day at a Time. Norman Lear helped shape my sense of comedy.
Born in 70 and you are absolutely 100% correct. I can't imagine not having these shows now.... I also look back and think about our parents allowing us to watch them with such humor and social issues but I guess they figured we didn't understand those things that young. But Gen X was definitely molded by these shows and situations and makes us react and think definitely about life now.
I was born in 1964....I miss those great old shows. You don't see that anymore.
@@shaneencalade4988 Yeah, I watched them mainly because that's what my parents were watching. As a pre-teen, I began watching them on my own (as re-runs) just because I liked them. I have fond memories of all of those shows.
Perhaps these shows are one of the reasons pre-Millenial generations are not easily offended. Gen X grew up as the first post-civil rights generation. We were witness to the hard conversations that took place. And we saw things get much, much better in society through open communication and using humor to discuss hard truths.
I feel bad for younger generations today who seem to believe things have always been bad and no progress has been made. They don't remember the 70s, 80s, 90s, or early 2000s so they don't know. It wasn't until a particular narrative from people with something to be gained reshaped the mainstream narrative that recent history was clouded with half-truths and lies. But if they ask almost anyone who was around back then, of any race, they'll learn how it actually was. As far as diversity, acceptance, mutual respect, and open communication, the 1990s were far better than the 2010s.
@@476429 I agree 100%
@476429 - Agreed, these shows helped shape my sense of comedy AND my sense of social justice and my overall worldview. I learned a lot of lessons about race, gender, religion, and prejudice. The power of television was/is strong -- just like today's power of social media.
Norman Lear is a freaking genius!
One day at a time, the Jeffersons, Maude, Sanford and son, the Colgate comedy hour (1950), the Martha Raye show 1954… the list is almost endless. Thanks, guys. You’re one of my favorites on UA-cam. Have you guys ever reacted to the Jefferson’s maid, Florence?
I think Florence had her own spin-off for a brief bit…..
That was a powerful clip. What surprised me the most was that Florida was their housekeeper. I though it was simply a friendship.
When I was a little girl, my Mama signed her checks Mrs. XXXX Smith. Her name was not listed on the checks. It was either this or the husband provided an allowance in which all the home expenses were deducted. If the woman didn’t want to ask permission of her husband to buy something she would try to economize & save from her allowance.
Now on the other side where are the feminists who fought for women’s rights & we are being squeezed out of our spaces by “trans” persons and it’s not just clothes,it’s bathrooms & sports! The inner workings are different; men are stronger, they shouldn’t compete against real women. Now also think that the chattel state is still alive in many countries.
I think that in homes in the past where women worked, it was because the household needed the extra money or the husband was getting a degree so HE could make more money. I am a Gen Xer and I saw a lot of the woman working to put the husband through school and once that happened, more often than not in my experience, the man would get that great job and then hit a mid-life crisis and divorce the wife. If there were kids, the wife would take the kids and sometimes get the house, but usually had to get an apartment because she couldn't afford the payments. And that's how latchkey kids were made in Generation X - Mom still working, downsized living and having to do more around the house & be more independent, etc. This isn't the only situation in which this happened, but growing up in my area of Southern California, it was very common - most kids I knew came from divorced families. Maude is one of the first feminists on TV and the show was groundbreaking for that alone. I remember watching it as a kid and she really shaped how I thought about the male/female dynamic. Taken with All in the Family and seeing how Edith was treated and then Mrs. Jefferson and her backbone and her maid was awesome, the intelligent, stoicism of Florida - all of these women made a difference in how girls and women thought of themselves in the world. It's very true about seeing someone represent you in TV/Movies - it does have an impact.
Well said!
Great clip to react to% loving the reactions to the old sitcoms.
You have to remember, prior to women’s rights movements, the roles were defined as this is what the wife’s role is and this the man’s.
That was accepted standard by both in those days.
The women’s rights movement was about redefining those roles.
Yes, women were thought to be possessions... dowrys were paid for women.
Yep. Used to cost a fortune. Glad they’re free now.
I'm sorry, not completely true. if you were single or widowed or divorced, you were still allowed to hold property or open a bank account. Actresses going all the way back, did not need a man to open a bank account. Mae West, Rita Hayworth ,Lucille Ball , any single woman . Think McFly, Think ! Especially not into the 80's, 1880's maybe . Holly seems like she wants to be mad about something !
Obviously she hated the word Conservative… her reaction said it all.
I totally did not realize Good Times was a spin off of Maude! Wow! Learn something new everyday!
For promotional purposes, it was a spin-off (to attract "Maude" viewers), however, technically it doesn't meet the criteria to be a true spin-off since Rolle and Amos played different characters. In Rolle's case, both of them just happened to be named Florida.
I remember my sister having a different set of rules in the early 70s. It was not considered proper for her to initiate a phone call to a boy. And girls had classes in typing and home economics with the idea that they would graduate to work as secretary but when she married she would be a full time "house wife". But when I joined the military in the mid 70s, working in military law, they had regulations requiring that any financial matter affecting a married man be with the approval or acknowledgment of the spouse.
Those ideas were still common growing up a teenage girl in the 80's too.
Wow I didn’t know the phone call rule was a thing but I could see that for the 50s/60s. I’m surprised that was 70s/80s still especially the 80s. As a teen in the late 90s / early 00s, we girls initiated phone calls to boys we liked all the time and it was viewed as normal for both sides to call each other at will.
Just thought I'd mention: if Bea Arthur) looks famikliar, it's because she was one of the stars of The Golden Girls; she played Dorothy. Loved her, and always will.
When maude confronts her husbands drinking problems best episode
Henry probably didn't want Florida to work because it would make him look like he's not a good provider.
The description of the episode "Florida's Problem" says that Henry got a 2nd job and then showed up to demand that Florida stop working.
After looking up, here's more context= He was ashamed of his wife having to work as a maid for white people. Here are some quotes from the episode.
Florida Evans: Now, you hurt because of your pride, and I love you for that. But I also resent you for not being just as proud of me as I am of you.
Henry Evans: I am proud of you Florida, its just that I don't want you to be a maid no more.
Florida Evans: Them two don't go together Henry. Your mother was a maid. That's how your brothers got through school and you got to be a fireman. My grandmother was a maid, that's how my daddy got a little schoolin'. There are a lot of women, Henry, on both sides of my family, who worked all their lives in white kitchens so their kids could get some of the things they should have. You want to be proud of something Henry? You be proud of them, because they was all black women and I tell you there ain't never been a better woman than that.
Love these shows! There just isn't anything on these days that compares!!! I think this is how they were introduced ....before they came out with the show Good Times..!
All you have now are teen angst shows where the teen/s are usually rebellious or troubled. There are few if zero of any typical family of a father, mother & kids. Now all you have are people living together with no true commitment. If you’ve had a “fiancé” and are living together now, 1 yr, 5yrs etc…..& still manage to live together; you’ll have this “fiancé” for the rest of your life! There is no legal commitment & when push comes to shove - you will have no rights! All these silly Baby Mama/s & Baby Daddy/s are a tragedy. All it points to is a poor moral compass & often the ability of “the daddies” to have no responsibility for their children. There are FANTASTIC single mamas that have had to do everything on their own, but our kids need both parents to provide role models to have great children & citizens. Right now the majority of our kids are stupid they don’t know where we are in the world and I don’t know what’s going on in other countries, let alone being able to find other countries on a map. Not everybody can be a pro baseball player, football player, or basketball player in the majority of the rest of the kids only know how to play sports on a game consul and as a result, they’re fat and out of shape. We Can’t even get good recruits anymore for military services and the pride of what it took to be called free in the United States. Every bit of it is taken for granted with things popping off now in the middle east of people dying right and left. Maybe some of these horrible things that are happening will become real dismissive of our kids and they’ll put down the game console. The majority of what we have right now are a bunch of hooligans that just want to sit in the basement & play video games! Rather than pretend, LEARN to play the guitar (have a garage band), go outside and discover all that nature has to offer and finally try real life instead of games about life! I’d also say travel the world by the time I was 36 I’ve been to 37 states in 17 countries but right now given all of the upheaval in the world I can’t recommend that anymore. It’s hard to feel safe in your own country now.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to pop off and go off target so badly but once I got going, I really gotta go on my intent was to talk about TV sitcoms and how great the shows were of yesteryear in addition to all of Norman Lear‘s situation comedies, think about the great shows like Mash. Other than streaming, three minute UA-cam videos where somebody crashes into a tree do we really even watch TV that much anymore? we have to have immediate gratification and just bite-size pieces of information so that our brain can comprehend it.
Before Maude, it was always a male that others had to appease. Watch more Maude. Often she breaks out into song. She's so funny.
I hate improper English , so I was happy when Maude said the word CONVERSE ! There is No Word that I hear people say CONVERSATE !
I hate that, too. Same with "applausing."
There were apparently seven spin-offs from All in the Family. Most were very successful, but not all.
Good Times was a spin off of Maude. Two things that no one mentions. Florida works for Maude in Brooklyn yet Good Times is set in Chicago. Florida s husbands name changed from Henry to James.
Ok now you have to react to show good times spin-off since the Esther Roll & James Amos playing the Evan couple
Florid a went on to be in a spinoff called Good Times. Which was produced by Mike Evans who played Lional on all in the Family,
I like the episode of Maud when her daughter came home with a man and they weren't married and they wanted to stay the night in maude's house. Maud is supposed to be liberated, and "this is a new day. Im free and open." She just did not want them to sleep in the same room together under her roof. She was hanging out in their room and wouldn't leave. They had to leave her house.
All in the Family was itself based on the British sitcom “Til Death Us Do Part.”
The Marriage Ceremony is not just a Ritual unless you make it just that.. God made men and women to be together and keep the population of humans going in relationships also with God.. A beautiful thing when put together as meant to be.... or we can make it all very ugly and ritualistic when we stray from the original formula too much..
We Women had to fight we couldn’t even wear pants or have credit cards in my grandma’s day
I am 65 and remember my mom was not able to get her own credit card with out my dad's signature. I remember bank accounts had Mr. and Mrs. instead of Mr. or Mrs. I felt so free when I got my own credit cards and a bank account at 18 yo in 1976.
If we are ALL HONEST we do long for a simpler time in our lives. Men are men and women are women. God made us different for a reason. We are equally important and compliment each other.
You two should do one on the Golden Girls. Sofia is a savage. 😂
Yes, Maude's husband wanted her to mind her own business. That's what was fun about "Maude".
John Amos and "Florida" are in sitcom "GOOD TIMES"👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤
Excellent reaction. Also I really enjoy the commentary you guys offer after the videos. Can you guys do more All in the Family, The Jeffersons, Maude, Good Times and even Happy Days.
Also thank you for having dialogue on these topics. Again excellent commentary.
Thank you for posting.
Thank you so much, Paul! We appreciate your comments and suggestions, and will check those out. We’re really enjoying watching and discussing these things and glad to hear you’re enjoying it too 🙂
This episode also touched on domestic violence with john amos coming in like a hurricane to see Esther rolle. He even threatened to "put one aside her head." There were no domestic violence laws to even give an illusion of safety against an abusive spouse or male family member. Worse for women and children if you had no male at all protecting you. Therefore, they couldn't explore that topic further as there would be no resolution or toleration at all for the sitcom episodes. Shelters only opened in 1983 and it took years for the rest of the country to even consider reporting. Something that women were forced to hide to survive.
Btw The actor Carroll O 'Connor who played archie bunker was a fascinating and good man in real life. His interviews for why he took the role are thought compelling. No one else could have done the character. This is where a young child got chances to see types of people who they wouldn't ordinarily see in their communities. Human beings questioning different sides/ views about each other. I think it made me fascinated and curious about all people despite some racists in my then environment. Consider that up until these sitcoms there were very limited channels and only certain types of white characters. The exposure was crucial.
MARRIED women often couldn't do big financial transactions from their HUSBANDS. Single women could and did all sorts of finances entirely on their own.
Maude is about equality... women, minorities, anyone left behind...it is the 70s. If we only have more people thinking like her, it would be a better nation and world ❤❤
Thus started Good Times. Thank you Ms. Beatrice
Yes, Some interesting Dynamics - But Women not having their own bank accounts is untrue. (Maude '72-78) It Wasn't the '('60's Lucy Show').
There were banks that would cater to women, other Women kept their savings in cash hidden around the house.
Its true that women weren't taken seriously (like today), and often paid 1/2 of what men were paid ('She's Only A Girl'), but they were not totally reliant on men, unless they chose to be. (Mary Tyler Moore '70-77 , Rhoda '74-'78, etc. were closer to single women's rolls). Things started to get better for women with 'Rosie The Riveter' of WWII, Followed by the Beatniks in the 50's, the Peace movement of the 60's. As women became more educated they stopped putting up with the BS.
Men Thought that if their wives worked it made them look weak (unable to provide for their families), and damage their careers.
Norman Leer was the man of the 70’s & 80’s! From All in The Family came Maude, The Jeffersons, and Gloria…and from Maude came Good Times.
Balzac was a humor writer 200+ years ago in case anyone was wondering.😂 Random literary reference from Maude
what I think the show eventually makes obvious is that everyone, including Maude is trying to force a decision for Florida, but shouldn’t it be up to Florida?
I’ll be 60 in a few days and my grandparents born in the early 1900s both sets worked (male and female ) both my parents worked .
That's why in a marriage the woman had to promise to "love, honor and obey" their husband. And they pronounced them "man and wife". In other words, person (the man) and the person's appendage or accessory (his wife).
Women actually could own and have an LLC in the 70s. You have to go back further.
You have to do some Golden Girls reactions. But take each character in turn: Blanche, Sophia, Dorothy, and Rose.
Florida and Husband got their own spin off Good Times. Which us 💯 worth a reaction with Kid Dynomite!
I remember watching all these shows as a young kid in the 70s and I was so happy when Esther Rolle, who portrayed the maid Florida Evans got her own show “Good Times” I only wish that Norman Lear hadn’t made the family so stereotypical living in a black Ghetto , Cabrini Green in Chicago actually, I didn’t see these things as a kid. And they actually changed Henry’s name to James once Good Times started.
That was a segue to my favorite show. Good times just to write my diary when I was a kid. Good time it's coming home. I was third grade
All in the family spun off so many shows. Maude, the Jeffersons Good times, and Gloria. All were extremely successful except for Gloria, but still. 😂😂😂 looks like everyone else has said this in some form creator Norman Lear is 101
7 spin offs from all in the family.
Cousin maude hated archie..and was the liberal voice to his conservative one.
All Norman Lear! Jefferson’s too. Sanford and Son as well. Lear was devoted to bringing enlightening entertainment with humor and a spine. He experienced a great deal of antisemitism growing up. That experience inspired him to fight all kinds of bigotry.
I’m new to this channel..but after two vids love LOVe how homeboy in the mariners shirt is like..this is So his jam. Context and history wise both show and the times wise . I am you dude ❤😂.
Maude (Bea Arthur) was brilliant! I feel like I learned about feminism as a little girl by watching Maude. The episode about abortion really taught me well. At the time it was still illegal here so this show was actually promoting an illegal activity, but they proved their point so well. It was made legal just a few months after the episode.
The Evens' became the parents on Good Times. I told ya, it's all from the head of Norman Leer.
Its great to see Gen Z and Alpha processing these times and what we were all dealing with! And that funny is still funny!
Holly has suck a great smile…sorry off topic. 😮😊
John Amos- who was the Good Times Dad was also older Kunta Kinte in the iconic Roots.
I'm not sure who has been telling you what.... Women could have their own bank accounts and start their own businesses all on thier own. There was such a thing as single independent self reliant women before you were born.
Mr. Evans is from the show GOOD TIMES. Please watch that show…
Yes good times was another spin off yes because they were all such big personalities
6:39 Incorrect statements about women.
1977 was the civil rights act which wasn't even passed for the purpose of helping women but it legally required banks to change practices. Previously banks could choose to ignore women or require that a male be on a checking , savings, mortgage , credit account. Banks did help some women in the country but they weren't required to treat all customers by the same standards. So in 1977, they had to account for their refusals. In 1974 my single working mom, who completely owned our small home after the divorce was not allowed to get a checking account to pay bills. She had to put my uncle's name on the checks and account. I saw the checks with his name and her crying. My mom's family and then my father took her money since she was 5 yrs. Old picking berries in the fields. They made her quit school to support family while others attended. Good women and children really suffered when fathers didn't help and moved on to make new families. If my one good uncle hadn't helped.....
And Netflix didn't spin off cartoon on good times
A black man created Good Times.
Esther Rolle was beautiful 💖
Check out the Golden girls
And all this leads to Mr. Mom in the 90s. LOL
Watch Blazing saddles.
One Day at a Time was a good show !!!!!
Marriage was a business arrangement among men, it joined property. The dowry was to make a woman more desirable.I’ll give you how ridiculous it was in the near past. My mom was gossiped about for going out in the yard while pregnant.
norman lear die on dec 5 2023 at age 101
Honor and obey, honor and obey.
Henry became James Evans
When I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, I saw a lot of reruns from the 50s and 60s where women were shown as a stay-at-home wife and mother. The Brady Bunch and Leave it to Beaver are just some examples. In the 70s the shows portrayed women fighting for equality. I remember seeing that all the time in shows like Maude and Eight is Enough. When the 80s came around many of the shows portrayed women as having careers and were shown as equals. Shows like Growing Pain, Cosby and Who's the Boss are an example of this. By the time I went to college in the late 80s it was normal to expect a woman to have a career. Anyone who is part of Generation X experienced this as a child. We saw the transition. In many ways this was good because women should be treated fairly and should have careers if they want but, in some ways, it was not because many children were left at home without supervision. Latchkey kids as many of us were called. It was definitely an interesting time to grow up. I'm so glad I got to experience it.
And look at where we are today. A total disaster
If you haven't watched Airplane yet, let me give you a bit of advice. You need to realize that it was the greatest comedy movie ever made, at the time. But, that time was 45 years ago. You will find some of the movie rather cheesy. Some of that is because the specific joke, or type of comedy, has been worn out since then. Most of it will be because you aren't aware of what the scene is referencing. Keep in mind, when you're watching, that many previous classic movies, or scenes within those movies, are referenced in this movie. If you can pick them out, it adds to the comedic value. Enjoy the movie, but don't lose focus on what's going on.
We'll try to keep that in mind! Thank you! - Joe
FYI - women could get their own credit cards etc by the mid 1970's.
Up until recently, women were still paying more for credit cards than men.
Come on…the 1970’s were well past “women not being able to have checking or bank accounts “. Maybe in Alabama in 1970 but not any of the states I lived in. And by the way, my parents got married in 1957 and both worked their entire lives. My mom actually had two jobs for awhile.
It wasn't until 1974, when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act passed, that women in the U.S. were granted the right to open a bank account on their own. Technically, women won the right to open a bank account in the 1960s, even though I don't know the exact details. However, many banks still refused to let women do so without a signature from their husbands. This meant men still held control over women’s access to banking services, and unmarried women were often refused service by financial institutions.
This episode fom Season 1 aired February 12, 1973. It was not only the 18th episode of that season, but it was definitely aired before the law I just mentioned even passed.
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All Norman Lears work
I loved Maude. I got married in the 80's, I walked down the Aisle with both my Parents and had the Minister say, who blesses the union of this Woman and Man in Marriage, My Parents said we do. Maude had taught me well.
Good Times. Another Norman Lear gem. Maude based loosely on Norman wife.
I cannot believe 100 yr Norman onky has 16 k followers on Instagram. And he's active on it
Meantime a make up influencer. Millions ... follow him ppl !!
He and Mel.
Woman had bank accounts in the 60s my mother had one.
Regarding joint accounts, no, a woman absolutely could have her own bank account. It was just easier to have a joint account which was a hold over from the days when the MAN was the sole bread-winner. A WIFE from that era didn't need one but nobody ever said they couldn't get one. My Mother started working min 1970s, had her own checking account and credit cards. They made a whole episode in All In the Family that a woman couldn't take out a loan without here husbands signature because she usually didn't have her own income. If you were "just a house-wife" you needed a cosigner.
It wasn't until 1974, specifically when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act passed, that women in the U.S. were granted the right to open a bank account on their own. Technically, women won the right to open a bank account in the 1960s, even though I don't know the exact details. However, many banks still refused to let women do so without a signature from their husbands, which many husbands probably had no problem with. This definitely meant men still held control over women’s access to banking services, and unmarried women were often refused service by financial institutions. So it's not true that nobody ever said they couldn't get one.
This episode aired February 12, 1975. It's from season 1 and the 18th episode. It was definitely before the law I just mentioned even passed.
Many women worked in this era. They didn’t need their husbands permission. Women started working outside the home when WWII started because most of any able bodied man was fighting the war. Men didn’t typically consider their wives possessions.
Yeah but when the men came home from World War II, the women were fired. And up until the 70s, most women couldn’t get real professional jobs because the employers assumed they would quit when they got pregnant so they weren’t ever considered for the job.
Women of the 60s,70s,&80s could do anything you can today. But like today woman want equal rights but want none of the responsibility that goes with it.
You clearly know nothing about the law pertaining to women or their lack of sovereignty over their own bodies in the past and currently.