I noticed that Eddie’s first dialogue when he meets Waylon is an exact replica of the dialogue of the prince in sleeping beauty when he first meets Aurora. Given Eddies age it makes sense that he would have watched it when he was younger and modelled his “courting” of Waylon with that of the movie.
It's also the kind of courtship he would've grew up watching in old fasioned black and white movies where women were thought of as easily frightened fragil creatures who needed strong men to woo them, assure them of love, and save them from a life of loneliness and becoming unmarriable after age 30.
I just read the script, and I can bascally remember the exact dialogue Gluskin says because I watch a LOT of stuff related to Outlast, and this is 100% correct. COOL DETAILS!!
Also fun fuct: Waylon IS a father to 2 boys in this game, which is revealed in a note you find in the asylum which was written by his wife who actually figured out something was wrong at Mount Massive and was being threatened into silence essentially. So, imagine laying on a slab and being told you will be castrated by a psychopath to become a wife/mother for him and his future children, knowing your own wife and sons are at home wondering where you are. It's quite terrifying.
@@teaganwillier-lauck638 Yeah but I wonder what happens next, after uploading the video... The lore of the outlast universe is very interesting, the new outlast game seems like it's where it all started... Murkoff experimenting people and whatnot
I dont think thats what he meant, I think he just meant that the trauma he experienced later impacted his character leading to him repeating stuff he had heard from when he was abused
I think he actually has a lot of humanity which hear me out, what I mean that he’s seen it all, been through a lot and it turned him into this monster who can’t get a grasp on how anything works, unlike most serial killer who also aren’t that big on the whole “love” thing, just the sexual pleasure. He’s gotten too into being better than his father and starting a family, though he’s far from perfect, in fact a shitty person overall. I think that what makes him seriously makes him human, a big chaotic mess whos turned into something they never wanted to be.
That's the best part of his design, imo. You know you have to run from him... but you also kinda want to hear what he has to say. Horror works best when it's fascinating as well as repulsive.
@@FTZPLTC honestly i feel extremely bad for him, like i really wish we could just turn around and hug it out and help him with his trauma, he's clearly fucking insane and extremely miss guided, its extremely sad, like he was just a kid its not really his fault for how he turned out
One of the best things about Gluskin, imo, is that even though you know you've got to run from him... you also REALLY want to hang back and hear what he has to say. It's a nice mix of fear and fascination.
Ikr! They really did a great job with this character. His charisma and all made you actually want to stay with him and to "help" him, but he was still crazy and twisted so you had to run for your life. Golden writing here
Not gonna lie, When I first met Eddie I kinda fell of his voice and felt bad until he called me a s’ut. Soon enough I found out his backstory and felt extremely bad for him then I read the women part and was a little less forgiving about it. While I play I feel so bad for him yet he still terrifies me a little to much for my liking.
Completely agreed. Lack of the mother’s inclusion in Eddie’s backstory is very telling tho - she must have fallen in line with the abuse, or maybe something happened to her.
I agree! I kinda wonder if that's actually what he's after: the "perfect girl" is someone like his mom in some way. Might explain the "I want a girl" song XD
My opinion is that: The mother probably was the victim, when he said something like I’ll be the better man wonder if he’s referring to how his father treated her but at the same time he saw the things they’ve done to her he feels like the value of the woman isn’t useful compared to a man since he went through all that ig longer than the mother
His mother sided with his father because she caught Eddie doing the same things to his sister. She didn't see her son as a victim she saw Eddie as a monster who made those choices. This is because of the era he grew up in. In his time, children were expected to be well behaved little adults who were responsible for their own actions, no matter what they were.
I also think Waylon is special to him since he saw him at the beginning of the game.Eddie is the guy who flung himself at the window when Waylon is fixing the computer,he get dragged away and put into the machine. He even says to Waylon when they meet again "We've met before haven't we? I know I've seen your face." it's interesting since he also says "Maybe, just before I woke up." as if before going into the machine is a bit hazy or something,or just before he became awakened into being 'The Groom' fully. Waylon is literally the one who got away.
No it’s a pickup line that basically means he thinks Waylon is angelic and that he has seen him in dreams. It’s actually a really smooth pickup line when you think about it lol
@@modderkevin5124 Could mean both really, could also be a reference to sleeping beauty. The disney and original ver, the disney ver the prince was smooth and Gluskin said basically the same thing "Im awfully sorry I didn't mean to frighten you" "But we've met before, you said so yourself, once upon a dream", (yes that is the exact quote from the movie even reminded me of sleeping beauty when i first heard it) apologised for frightening you, then mentioned the meeting in his dream, his tone was even kinda suave in his first line, it's a very different tone compared to his other lines. The original it was a prince/king who raped her while she was sleeping. Its fascinating to think about the layers of one detail like his intro line like; coincidence or did the creators really put that much thought? Either way it's still cool!
Haha ikr i just love the contradictions of his mindset. If you go with him, it is legit suicide. If he catches you, then it's gonna be the same conclusion: dead end.
Are we gonna ignore the the fact, that we meet Groom at the first 10 minutes of the DLC? Waylon was forced to turn on the device that made him a psycho murderer.
Oh yeah... him screaming for help and that they're going to rape him right at the start of the game was a great set up... and really really tragic... maybe he's angry at Waylon for turning the on...
Eddie also had a little sister. If you look up the audio of Eddie's full dialog which also includes the unused scripts that weren't put in the game it shows a lot more to him. The abuse his uncle and dad put him through was sexual and at his young age he didn't actually know or understand that what they were doing to him was abuse. He actally states this himself in one if the unused audio clips. He says that only after when he discovered how filthy and how wrong it was, that's when it hurt. In one if the cut audio clips, during one of the chase scenes with Waylon, he goes out of character and randomly screams out "how could you touch your little sister like that?" at Waylon and he expresses such hurt emotion and betrayal while saying it. -This was confirmed as a verbalized memory of what his mother said to him. Since he was made to believe that what they were doing to him was normal, he attempted to do the same things to his sister.... And because of the era he grew up in, because adults only thought of bad learned behavior as "a choice" and because they believed that it was entirely on the children for making those choices, he was blamed. In his time, people didn't really see it as "re-enacting" or "projecting" when a child practiced molestation or assault on another kid, they usually just saw it as the child being crazy and bad. Basically when his mother caught him doing all those things to his sister, she was appauled and saw him as a monster instead of a victim. This is what created Eddie's misogyny and complete hatred for women until he came to the assylum and had his brain scrambled.
It's a real shame they didn't include that detail, it would have added more depth to the character. Although in a way that actually reminds me of Blake and Jessica in Outlast 2. It's easy to see Jessica's abuse, but what's overlooked is how Blake himself was also sexually abused and made to feel shame for it. Although Blake isn't a misogynist, I get the sense he has a ton of repressed anger and the brain frying events of Outlast 2 might have turned him into a someone even more vengeful and delusional than Eddie.
@@loindeshommes09 Blake was caught and abused by Loutermilch the same night that he witnessed Jessica's death - the game hints at this with the unskippable jumpscare in the dark hallway full of lockers marking the point where the demon starts harming you, which chronologically marked the point Loutermilch STOPPED chasing Blake. My guess is that Loutermilch found Blake hiding in a locker, abused him, and then forced him to help cover up Jessica's death.
If you've never learned how to love, you make up a definition for yourself. Eddie Gluskin is the perfect example of a child (extreme) sexual abuse survivor who has had no help whatsoever and instead was turned over to an asylum to be yet another victim. A tragic and very well written character.
Fun fact: Inside the code, Eddie is actually stronger than Chris Walker in terms of punch attacks, with Chris having a strength value of 101 and Eddie having a strength value of 110. Both would obviously instantly kill us as our health at max is 100, so there's no other reason for the value to be higher for Eddie unless the Devs were leaving a little Easter egg (Chris' throw is still more powerful than Eddie's, however)
Which makes no sense because chris can effortlessly break doors, smash reinforced glass, rip off peoples heads, survive gun shots, etc. yet with miles hes all gentle like 🥰🥰
Man, I remember when this game came out. I watched a playthrough early on, I knew I was too jumpy to play for myself, and good _god,_ Eddie was my LEAST FAVORITE by far. My stomach churned, I felt disgusting and just, oh hell no. I really hope the guys that wrote this had a great laugh grossing us out, or else I bet they felt like they needed twenty consecutive showers. XDDD
To me he's the most frightening but therefore the best written character in the whole game. The "DIY Bride" scene keeps giving me deep chills everytime I watch it...
SPN unfortunately didn't mention the very important fact that Eddie is also the first Variant we see at the beginning of Whistleblower. *_Eddie_* is the same guy they're bringing in to put in The Morphegenic Chamber. Eddie is the same guy that screams out *_"I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING TO ME! HELP! HELP ME! THEY'RE GOING TO RAPE ME! RAPE! RAAAAAAPE!"_* And, Eddie is that same guy that runs to you and begs you to help him beyond the glass. *_"HELP ME! DON'T LET THEM DO THIS! DON'T LET THEM! YOU! I KNOW YOU CAN STOP THIS! YOU HAVE TO HELP ME! YOU HAVE TO!!!!!"_* The reason Eddie is so obsessed with Waylon isn't just because he's the one that got away, *HE'S THE LAST THING EDDIE SEES BEFORE THE WALRIDER POISONS HIS MIND. EDDIE, REMEMBER US. HE ALL BUT CONFIRMS IT IN THE FIRST ENCOUNTER.* _"Did I frighten You? I'm awfully sorry, I didn't mean to. We've met before, haven't we? _*_I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOUR FACE. MAYBE... JUST BEFORE I WOKE UP. Though it SEEMS like a dream now,_*_ being here with You."_ That isn't just a very sly nod to Sleeping Beauty. Somehow, in Eddie's polluted mind, he not only remembers Waylon, but his belief that Waylon could be the one to save him from Murkoff manifested into him being the one that could give Eddie the family he never had. Outlast had amazing villains, yo.
I also had the exact idea too! When I watched the Whistleblower, when Waylon was in underground lab where he met Eddie, I had a feeling he would be the last thing Eddie will remember and will be obsessed with. And lo and behold, when he encountered Eddie again, I hit right on the nails.
Eddie is a fucking creep and I would run the opposite direction if I ever saw him but he has a way with his words like it's kinda romantic and he speaks like a gentleman sometimes
I don’t think anyones gonna notice unless I bring this up but you really did great with using the italics and bold and capitalized words and mixing them all together to create unique fonts. I know we can do it too but you took advantage of it to give the dialogue captions *FLAVOR* It’s not just plain ole text, not that anyone would complain if you did it that way anyway. But I appreciate the effort and passion you put into it regardless. Gives it oomph
This man is scarier than any monster, any villain, or any thing in any video game, movie, book, or tv show I have ever been exposed to. he legitimately gave me nightmares. congrats to red barrels for making some truly mind-scarring villains.
I just realized you can see Eddie running through the dark before you meet him at the door. I can’t believe I missed it the first few playthroughs. It genuinely terrified me. Scariest character, by far. I love creepy little hints like that
You can see him much earlier actually. After running away from Chris Walker down that straight hall and jumping out the window, at the part where you have to turn off the power, there's a building that I think was a church. I don't remember exactly. If you enter it and go to the door in the center, you can see Eddie walking slowly through the little window.
Chris and wallrider were your casual under the bed monsters, classic buffs that are uncommunicatable. Meanwhile eddie was very realistic and as layered as a cabbage
My question is...in the start of the Whistleblower dlc, you see Eddie Gluskin freaking out and screaming about being raped. Could his time inside the morphogenic engine/the Walrider project actually have caused Gluskin to become more erratic? I mean all the experiences inside the asylum point to the fact that the experiments there were doing a lot to trigger the patients.
I'm inclined to think that not only was it possible that Murkoff employees molested him - as we see one do to Waylon - but the Morphogenic engine forces him to relive his traumatic memories of abuse. I'd go beyond that and say it's possible the Walrider itself may have been fornicating with him - it's strongly hinted that it's trying to impregnate women, and the mythological notes you pick up on the Walrider imply it's 'bisexual'. Here's something to ponder: Gluskin claimed in his patient's notes to 'hear the Walrider'. Murkoff dismissing him actually strengthens this idea because a recurring theme in these notes is the doctors being too arrogant to believe their patients. Now compare Eddie's obsession with creating 'women' to impregnate and kill with Outlast 2's cult devotion to mass impregnation. Another thing to consider is that you seemingly hear the cry of the Walrider right before Gluskin dies. My theory is that the Gluskin was partially compatible with the Walrider and he was unknowingly trying to fulfill its desire of 'having a family', but when the Walrider switched hosts from Billy to Miles it also led to Eddie losing his strength and dying for it. Lastly: Murkoff apparently had photographs of the abuse Eddie was subjected to in his childhood. Is it really that far fetched to consider his abusers were Murkoff agents and he may have been a sleeper agent of theirs even before Mount Massive? The upcoming prequel game is going to elaborate on Murkoff's history, and I can't help but think Eddie's fetishization of the 1950s coincided with the era of Outlast Trials.
@@mattmedrala1947 wow. this was the most brilliant theorizing and explanation I have ever read on Eddie. This just made me so much more inclined to see the Outlast Trials! Hopefully they connect the previous Outlast settings and characters so we can look forward to uncovering the background behind some of the abominations that were seen in the game.
@@salvinas.2587 Thanks! It's entirely possible I'm overthinking things (and going mad over the wait for the newest game), but I still see a strong throughline between the sexual abuse themes of Outlast 2 and Whistleblower, and IMO it adds to the intrigue if Eddie was following a similar form of manipulation to what we saw of Val and Knoth. The way I see it, the Walrider was desperate to find a woman who could give birth to it and that is why Eddie speaks about impregnating Waylon after castrating him - him murdering his victims immediately after castration might be a subconscious rage at the fact that Eddie's best efforts still fail him. Outlast Trials is set a few years prior to Eddie's birth, but it's still set in the era which he idolizes and I wonder if we might get some hints as to whether his father or uncle had any affiliation with Murkoff. It might be controversial for some people to reveal that Murkoff was responsible for his childhood abuse (IMO the same can be extended to Loutermilch and Blake), but personally I think it fits how nefarious and powerful the corporation is. One other interesting connection to consider: Trials will focus on the 'sleeper agent' component of the MKUltra project, where people would be forced via torture and drugging to develop 'killer' split personalities that take over without the main personality consciously remembering or being in control. In Outlast 2 we had Blake wandering around in a lucid dreaming state but even in Whistleblower they threaded in hints at this through Dissociative Dennis. Something worth considering about Eddie's 'split personality' is that in his patient file he seems to not have conscious memory of the women he killed and has a psychotic break when he's confronted with evidence of his trauma - it's possible that Eddie might have been a programmed killer even before the asylum, and what we see in Whistleblower is the result of that killer personality completely taking over. The tragedy then is that when we see Eddie pleading for Waylon's salvation, this is the last and only time we get to see the 'real' Eddie.
@@mattmedrala1947 WHAT THE HECK you just made my mind go BOOM at least three times whilst reading this.
I am incredibly on board with most of everything you stated, and I also wanted to expand on Dennis' connection to everything. You brought up Dissociative Dennis in relation to the 'sleeper' agent experiments. Similar to the topic of that, I really wonder how he knows about Gluskin. Yes, he's just a floor above him, so he may possibly hear the commotion going on beneath him. . . but how does he know to lure men into Gluskin's den so he can 'save himself'? His main purpose in the story is to lead Waylon to the floor below, and he gleefully states "He delivered his own self to Gluskin's hell," when Waylon escapes from him by unknowingly dragging himself into Eddie's arms. I wonder if he had some experience with him before (prior to when Gluskin lost all the humanity he had -- which we had witnessed at the very beginning of Whistleblower in the Underground), because it is highly unlikely Gluskin would have given Dennis up or let him escape if he had been to his floor.
And about what you mentioned on MKUltra, it does seem that Dennis was a result of the project, and it is also very likely that Eddie also originated from there too. . . seeing as he cried "they're going to rape me" at the beginning of Whistleblower whilst he was being dragged into those experimental glass spheres. He also mentions that Waylon had the ability to stop it all -- and, though it may be a coincidence, it's interesting that he runs up to Waylon, a 'new face' at the Underground, rather than the other men around him, who Gluskin would have obviously seen condoning Murkoff's abuse (his imprisonment) before. Maybe he was blindly hoping that Waylon would have enough humanity to save him (though the circumstances would have never allowed that to happen) before being completely converted into a monster as a result of the experimentation. If all that was true, (and this is where my revelation comes) it would be very likely that Dennis and Eddie had known each other as prisoners due to this experimentation, which is why Dennis is so cautious of Eddie, because he knows how severely Murkoff had broken him. This analysis truly makes a tragic character. I'm also really curious as to what you mean by the statement of "Murkoff was responsible for his childhood abuse." Is this similar to how those twin baby experiements, where one twin goes to a well-off family while the other goes to a poor one and they are analyzed on the effects the environment has on them (well, essentially this but a more messed up version where Eddie was purposefully forced into a place in which he was horrdily sexually abused)? I was actually thinking more along the lines of him being picked up by Murkoff at a much later stage in his life, and that the sexual abuse he experienced was something that truly happened without relation to Murkoff. His documentation stated that he was a man who killed women after suffering traumatic abuse at the hands of his father and uncle, and I am more inclined to believe the transition between his sexual abuse to a serial killer was the time when Murkoff had founded him and changed him into this psychopathic, 'split personality' person through their experimentation. This is also supported by Dennis and his split personalities -- he had a very southern accent and it seems that he is keeping his past, real family alive through his personalities.
Honestly though, this game is a really fascinating take on corruption with a horror genre. I'm really glad for your comments -- your connections are super insightful !
@@salvinas.2587 Aw, I really appreciate the enthusiasm! Even though there's plenty of (warranted) discussion regarding this character, there's certain interpretations that connect him to other parts of the series that I haven't seen many other people talk about. So be warned, I'll be touching on multiple different observations/theories I've had regarding elements of the narrative that will ultimately tie into why I think it's likely we may see some hints at Murkoff being involved with the Gluskins even before Mount Massive. I like your interpretation of Dennis having some prior history with Eddie. I do think there's an intentional thematic foreshadowing in having this character who embodies multiple personalities (minds/'souls') in one body right before you meet the Groom, whose overtly 'proper' exterior thinly disguises a sexually violent brute. I don't really think Murkoff was still conducting their 'sleeper assassin' experiments by the time of the first game - the impression I get was that this was a 'past' experiment and their reopening of the asylum was devoted more towards 'salvaging' people to make them Walrider hosts - but I do wonder if there was some intentionality in further 'breaking' Dennis into exhibiting multiple personalities. The reason why I say this is because although Dr. Wolfram's report on Dennis dismisses him as a liar and conveniently suggests 'electroshock therapy' (which would further break his mind), his note on Martin in the base game shows his suspicions as he says "it's as if Murkoff WANTS our patients to become more disengaged from reality." To me that would suggest that the psychopathic variants ARE the intended product of the experiments and not just 'failures'. As for the question of how much involvement Murkoff may have had with protecting/assisting sexual abusers and other conspiracies...this is going to bring in some observations about Outlast 2 and Whistleblower as well as some assumptions regarding Trials, but I hope it'll be coherent. This first started back when I was trying to figure out why Loutermilch's voice was audible during the hallucination recordings in Outlast 2. There are 3 explanations I've found, none of which are entirely satisfactory but have their own merits: 1: BLAKE might be muttering these things himself, implying that he has internalized his trauma so much that he has a repressed persona that identifies heavily with his abuser. On one hand this could be a tragic and sinister twist on Blake (he could be like Eddie, simultaneously muttering about Jessica and ready to commit atrocities as his 'Loutermilch' persona), but I think there's a little too much in the recordings for it to just be Blake's own hallucinations/imagination. 2: Loutermilch's voice was recorded in some way and then seeded into the transmissions. This begs the questions of HOW Murkoff would have had access to him admitting to criminal acts and WHY they'd broadcast that at Templegate. I COULD imagine that they might have hidden a microphone inside a confessional box and used it to blackmail Loutermilch later on, but I'm not sure why they'd specifically bring in his voice unless he was a Murkoff asset. 3: There's a supernatural element involved, something along the lines of Blake's psychic potential being 'unlocked' and thus giving him access to the memories of both Jessica and Loutermilch. I do suspect this is happening during gameplay as there's information that I highly doubt young Blake would have known (on top of him having suppressed a ton), but even so I'm not sure if we're having 'Loutermilch's ghost' speaking over the radio. [I'll continue in another comment, lest this one get too long for UA-cam.]
The betrayal theme is common in abuse because imagine being a child getting abused by your care giver. The humiliation and shame of being punished by someone you rely on to survive compounded by trauma and emotional abuse would make that child distrustful and resentful to the max. Trauma survivors struggle to trust future relationships for similar reasons.
Well Waylon how writes involving his kids and often making it for his wife, you can tell Waylon is a family guy something that Eddie seems to desire. I think Eddie may had found some of those notes and found features he thinks he desire in a spouse. I also think that deep down Eddie is subconsciously jealous of Waylon.
I always thought his obsession with Waylon began when he was being experimented on and looked to Waylon for help..maybe he wanted revenge on Waylon for just watching, or even worse, maybe he could see that Waylon genuinely felt sorry for him and despite his past as a serial killer thought that he didn't deserve what happened, but he still allowed it all the same..but he fact Waylon had genuine feelings for him even for a bit must have been the first and last time anyone treated him like a person, so he latched on to that sympathy as he was being tortured and twisted it in his mind
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 when i say "feelings' i mean feelings of sympathy or pity, he probably clung to those basic human emotions and twisted them, or misunderstood them for love, thats the only way i can comprehend why waylon, since he wasn't the only person present in the room, why stick to him specifically, why go out of his way to even remember him at all. he even leaves his territory looking for him, when it would have been easier to just wait around for victims, he actively chased.
@@emokid732 I'm aware of all of that. I was only saying to "have feelings for" someone is to be attracted to them, while "feeling for" someone is sympathy
I also feel like Eddie's trust issues and constant lines of someone betraying him comes from his childhood. There is a lack of mother in his backstory and I think that's due to the fact that she left them and therefore quite literally left Eddie alone. And thanks to that his father took his frustration out on him, making Eddie feel like his mother betrayed him.
I honestly feel bad for Chris, Eddie, Frank, The Twins, and all the other variants. They were people likes us, who either suffered in life, or suffered due to Murkoff’s actions at Mount Massive. They suffered so much, that most of them were brought to the point of insanity, like Eddie here. The only one I don’t feel bad for is Trager, because he wasn’t a victim of Murkoff’s actions, he contributed to those actions.
It is said that Murkoff needed the patients to be insane in order for the Walrider to be created. They stopped the treatments that were helping them and influencing the patients' insanity.
The saddest part is he probably would’ve been normal if he wasn’t abused. He killed those women to take back the control that was taken from him as a child. Edit: My interpretation was wrong, read the replies.
He killed those women because his mother saw him as a monster when she caught him doing the same things to his sister. He didn't know that what his uncle and dad were doing was wrong and even states this in the unused dialog. He lived in an era where families were meant to be perfect and children were expected to be little adults. They didn't believe that children couldn't be responsible for their own choices, because they thought that children had a built in natural ability to discern right from wrong always. So Eddie was villified as a child because his mother didn't/wouldn't see him as a victim
I agree me with a great deal of what you’ve analysed, but there’s some parts I can agree to disagree on. Eddie absolutely ISNT a hopeless romantic. This Groom and Bride shenanigans is pure escapism and a cover up for his true intentions. Personally I think that he is specifically chasing Waylon because of 1. What you said about the cycle of chase, and 2. Because he himself says that he recognises him from the intro of whistleblower where he didn’t HELP him [betrayal] out of being tortured by Murkoff. Let me elaborate [this is gonna be loads of fangirl rambling, please excuse me] Consider this: Eddie was very lucid at the beginning of the game. He is very much aware of what is going to happen to him in the morphogenic engine once he gets hypnotised. Then amidst all the chaos of the Walrider outbreak he had to free himself from his sphere [look at his sphere in the original outlast. It’s shattered there], wich means that dream therapy was still ongoing while he freed himself, and judging from what Murkoff’s scientists talked about the script...it had to be very traumatic. An abrupt end to a therapy segment like that doesn’t sound very safe to his mental state to me. I like to compare Eddie’s mental state after breaking out of the sphere as an experience similar to Blake Langermann’s at the end of Outlast II; high out of his mind hallucinating like fucking crazy. The effect would of course wear off over time [see waylons abstract hallucinations at the beginning of whistleblower], but it would leave him very confused and less than lucid. Now, Blake in that state retracted to childlike behaviour, and Eddie most likely would retract back to his serial killer ways, a period in his life where through his ability to manipulate and finally be in total control over life and death he felt the most in control; back when he most likely lured women in by being his manipulative and falsely charming self just for him to kill them. Add the traumatic childhood, his wish for a normal life and family & idealisation of vintage family values, sprinkle the lack of female Variants in Mount Massive on top and voila: we got Eddie’s actual motive: creating women for him to kill them. Waylon himself deduces this in his notes, and there’s a line that’s semi "hidden" in the castration scene, that further shows that Eddie absolutely ISNT a hopeless romantic: After the Variant tackles him, and Eddie and him get into a scuffle, Eddie cries out: "You’re not done DYING you slut". This line wasn’t covered here for some reason, but I can excuse that, because a lot of people don’t pick up on it. Eddie doesn’t have any romantic intentions what so ever. All he wants to do is use women as an outlet for his frustrations i.e killing and torturing them for his own enjoyment. Buuut there are no women in Mount Massive so he has to diy them by chopping off their vulgar parts :) Lovely man. Now on a more sad note: my personal theory about what could be the reason for his misogyny and obsession about betrayal. The document we find in the courtyard mentions a lot about him, like A LOT, but it neglects something I’ve always wondered about: What about his mother? Why is there no mention of her? If his dad abused his mother, surely there would be mention of that right? And if that were the case and his dad mistreated his dear darling mum who suffered alongside her son, then he would be aware and not turn a misogynistic leaf at all, because he’d feel sympathetic toward a loved female family member? Instead of being a misogynistic serial killer perhaps he would grow up to be a pëdophile headhunter [wich..,that’s an AU concept I’m ABSOLUTELY behind! Loutermilch vs 90’s Eddie Gluskin avenging Jessica? Fuck yeah!], but we all know that this isn’t the case. His hatred of women could granted come from multiple places. Him being a male victim and not being taken seriously, him growing up in the late sixties/early seventies like you said, and I think those are definitely contributors, but his hate is obviously on a personal level. Long story short, I guess we either have a "Precious" situation, where his mother abused him because he "stole her husband" [his dad and uncle did get incarcerated apparently, and a woman without a husband having to provide back theeeen...yeeah, she’d be mad as hell at her "whore" of a son], a simple case of his mother turning a blind eye, or her being complicit in the abuse Eddie suffered in the sense that she’d help her husband and brother in law cover up their tracks [there are "photographic documentations of the abuse", wich to me is very obviously code for Eddie’s Father and uncle making and perhaps distributing CP]. That would be less likely tho because then she’d absolutely be mentioned in the document, so I’m sticking to the first two options. Maybe I’m totally off and his mum never had anything to do with his misogyny, but it seems to be the most logical origin of his hate in my opinion. It coming from a place of betrayal from someone who consciously deciding not to help him, therefore betraying him in the worst way possible. Anyhoo, I’m really counting on maybe finding out more about the Gluskin Family Tragedy in Trials, since it’s gonna take place during the Cold War, wich means MKUltra, wich means early seventies, wich means illegal experimentation in prisons judging from the promo art, wich means that maybe we can avenge Eddie and lynch some pedos!!! [pls Red Barrels I’m begging you. Val’s death scene was cut, Loutermilch got off unscathed, so PLEASE, I need to witness some rapists die a horrible horrible death. I was counting on Eddie eventually killing them himself but oh well. I guess my boy can’t have any nice things after all...]
Completely agree on your point about Eddie's escapism and that's something I didn't pick up when his "Not Like.." line went unfinished. If he inches even just a little bit towards his past, the present reality, he completely avoids it. I assumed this meant he was aware, but this also means he's actively trying to push down the truth. I believe there are some files that clear this up even more. I tried my best not to do the whole "took one psychology class in college" takes but it is true - lack of a mother figure usually dictates misogynistic views (might be more of a bad parenting thing but subliminally it makes sense), either way his obsession with cutting man parts off and being an extreme perfectionist MUST be linked to his past abuse. It's all connected (or disconnected, in this case). Prepping up this vid definitely made me lookout for trials tho!
You make really great points, but as another fangirl ( :D ) I'd disagree with a few of the things you said. Mostly stuff about the "You’re not done DYING you slut" thing. I looked the scenes & dialgoue options of him up and the context where he says it is actually not with the protagonist. When Waylon is on the...bench? With the buzzsaw, just before he gets castrated, another random inmate attacks Eddie and they both wrestle. While Waylon flees in the trouble, Eddie gets one smack over the head, to which he chases after the attacker, screaming at him, because...well he's angry. In general, I think Eddie's mental state flunctuates between a form of "Mania" and "Aggression", kinda like you said. However, I don't think he has "no romantic intentions whatsoever" and just wants to harm women, I think it's more...complicated then that. In general, Eddie seems to have split himself in two versions of himself: Good Eddie, which is the guy who wants to marry and live a happy life, and Angry Eddie, the guy who murders & swears. Imagine it as a form of DID, only without an alter Ego, just a different mindset. The reasoning starts in the documents. In the ingame document "Project Walrider Patient Status Reports of Eddie Gluskin", it is said that Eddie tried to create a fake past for himself (growing up in a "Leave it to Beaver" home) and that he never admitted that the women he killed were dead or mutilated. According to the Wikia he'd also rather insist that the dead women were "just sleeping", no matter the evidence. If Eddie would activley want to kill & torture women -wouldn't he proudefully talk about how he killed them, or at least accept that he killed them? Don't get me wrong; I'm not disagreeing on the mother theory. I think what Eddie's Problem is, that he himself is split in two about the things he actually wants. In game, Eddie spends most of the time drowning in his escapism. To blend out his past & present situation, Eddie lives in his make-belief that he's a young man, trying to marry a young woman. Aka what you can hear in his song. He sets his eyes on anyone that he sees as a woman (not going to question insanity here) and takes special interest in Waylon because he saw him at the beginning, aka stayed in his mind. "Good Eddie" is the personality you see at the beginning. The one obsessed with his happy ending, the one that holds the rant on "I want a family". Meanwhile, "Angry Eddie" is what you could call the "defense mechanism" of him. Similar to DID, people under great stress & trauma tend to create extra "parts" that help them cope with a certain situation, and deal with a similar situation when it pops up again. Eddie has a very visible mother-complex, which he projects on other women. This can be seen in the quote "One more. I try and I try. And you all betray me." just before he drags Waylon to the gymnasium. Of course, this could be a reference to his "failed" brides that "gave up on love", but it could also be interpreted as Eddie being betrayed by his mother in times of need and then afterwards forming a crooked defense mechanism that hurts unsuspecting women (and men). "Angry Eddie" generalises women as wh'res, LOUDLY talks about how he is going to kill Waylon and rip his guts out. He is not talking about "sending you to sleep", he is open about wanting to kill & having killed other women. In general, I'd say his mind works in a "if you're not with me, you're against me" way. When Waylong falls down the elevator, you can hear the shift basically Eddie: "Oh god. Oh god, are you okay? Tell me you're okay. I hate to think of you suffering without me." -> Good Eddie, living his fantasy "Why would you do something like that to yourself? You'd rather... Rather die than be with me?" -> switch of realisation. His fantasy has been broken and so he fears danger. He learned that a woman either loves him (idealisation) or that she wants to harm him in active/passive ways (which is triggered through the idea of Waylon rather wanting to die -> it translates into "I hate you" -> I am going to harm you) "Then die." -> Angry Eddie.
@@katziliaf It’s funny because that was always my first interpretation of him when I first seen this portion of the game years back. Especially at the point when the random inmate helps the protagonist u can see the switch as well. That and the fact that Gluskin is very strong, yet tries to portray a gently soft side. That is until he gets angry and all that goes out the window. I never realized other people didn’t really notice this cause at the time I assumed it was obvious
@@katziliaf i think its much less a DID thing for eddie and more of a borderline personality disorder thing-- i have bpd and im ashamed to say i relate to that "good vs angry" thing, especially with your example at the end (although on a much smaller scale)
@@purehyacinth Yeah, Borderline would work as well. I have a mother that has that and she too has phases where she seems to enter an escapism phase and when you break it she reacts with extreme levels of anger & violence. DID was just my first comparison because he seemed to really "change personalities", but of course, doesn't have DID. (irony extra fact; I just realised that the guy that warns you about Eddie - Dennis - actually has DID. Meaning the theme of "switching" personalities is a theme.)
Dude same. I *really* don’t like saying “pleasure” or “love” or “kissing” or anything intimate. It feels weird to say it. Uncomfortable weird. It’s enough to just think it or imply it.
When I have to say something involving the theme of smexy times, I usually just say the naughties or try and make it funny. I don’t know if people get what I mean, but they probably should through context.
This whole video basically confirmed all I had assumed. Whistleblower is my favorite in the Outlast series and I enjoyed reading and learning about the characters, especially Eddie!
I just finished replaying Whistleblower. Man that soundtrack when Eddie is chasing you. One of the most nerve racking, teeth gritting moments I’ve had experienced playing a video game. Well done by Red Barrels. That moment when Waylon is inside that locker, wow! You just can’t unsee all that!
I never played the game I just watched a few videos on UA-cam but it's so creepy... Even more now I've learned the sad story behind his madness... I've discovered your chanel recently and watched some videos about resident evil. Nice channel 😁( sorry for my bad english)
I believe Gluskin is based on Ed Gein. A serial killer and grave robber from Wisconsin that murdered a woman in 1957. The bodies in the gym are a reference to the body of his last victim, who was found hanging upside down naked and gutted without her head. Gluskin’s face also resembles Gein’s.
Eddie Gluskin actually appears in the prologue for whistleblower. He actually begs for your help and I think that's why he liked Waylon the most because he talked to him before they experimented on him
I know a lot of female fans love Eddie. I don't because he's crazy but I guess I'm a fan which is odd. My channel is based on him and Eddie's voice actor Graham Cuthbertson. It's good to see that there's still content of Eddie Gluskin being made that isn't from me..lol. 😆
As a guy I gotta say Eddie Gluskin scared the fuck outta me way more than Trager or Chris ever did. Just the thought of what he does to his victims before actually killing them is far worse than the quick death Chris offers
I had this theory and have posted a few times and that is other than the abuse he experienced as a child, Eddie may actually had a romantic consenting relationship but due to having little to no form of healthy relationships before or could based off of, he may not really know how to handle what comes with it. He loved the affection, attention, the care, the kindness, be treated as someone who's significant, the experiences he enjoyed, and the person he had that with. She was his pearl and thought she was only his girl. I think it's very likely that he may ended up becoming too clingy, obsessed and maybe manipulative. It's also likely that he may have met a girl who also had to survive in a broken home too so they rarely knew how to react to feuds or issues other than fight, flight, or submit. Since Eddie was bigger, stronger, and more skilled in doing that I think his spouse may often have to submit to stop a fight. Their once loving bond grew toxic that they ended up doing and saying horrible things to each other and gradually meant what they say and did. Despite that, Eddie didn't want to let go of his spouse since despite the shitty things they did to each other, he still had strong feelings and attachment to her, want to keep alive the dream of having a family with her, and he doesn't want to be lonely like he was for a long time (and intentionally was to not get as hurt as he was during his youth). She however found their relationship in the condition it was was not beneficial to either of them, and tried to run away. Feeling betrayed he killed her out of rage. When he regain a certain amount of awareness he was in denial that his spouse was dead and was instead asleep. Anger that she wouldn’t wake up. Sadness that she wasn’t likely to wake up. Tried to negotiate with a corpse. Then he accepted that he may need to find someone else to achieve having a family, which he failed numerous of times since he didn’t let go of his desperation, desire of his idealized woman, and the burning hatred he felt from a toxic relationship and hatred of rejection. Plus most of them died from what he did to them.
Same. It legit looks so good. I mean, we could already see the massive progress in outlast 2 but the outlast trials (or at least the trailer) had awesome graphics
Y’know, Eddie’s past hits close to home in some ways and I really sympathize with him. Yeah, he’s a monster, but he didn’t HAVE to be. Monsters are born from monsters. He could have been a normal kid. And that’s what upsets me. He could have been normal if he had just been left alone when he was little. Just bugs me, I guess. Makes me feel like the way I cope isn’t as bad as his?😅
I think Eddie was obsessed with Waylon because he was the last person he saw before going into the engine... Waylon probably represents a more "sane" version of him that he misses. I found Eddie such an interesting character, because I've lived his childhood, and I think he was written really well. You're very correct - the betrayal theme is not about romantic love, it's deeper. It's the betrayal of a parent abusing you, which trust me is a hard thing to lay to rest. Also, the fixation on classic depictions of romance? I think he watched a lot of those romantic movies as a child, and they became his escape from the abuse. Hence his entire rhetoric is kind of taken from a classic romance film. I think it's his way of self soothing.
No he just wanted a wife, and as you can see there isn’t any girls at that place. And it’s stated he wants to work on people, men, that can take more pain and scream less. Even though it’s a fact women can take more pain than men in real life
@@darkx6869 Is that actually? Idk about that I thought males were stronger than females both in durability and strenght (I have my notifications off so probably not gonna see ur answer but lol)
@@AE_15x women are more durable and men are stronger physically. Bcs of childbirth and whatnot women can take large amounts of pain and can gauge the pain level more than men can.
So I watch a ton of murder mysteries and true crime stuff but the writing and narration Nacho did on this just got to me. Side note: For some reason I found the bleed less quote hilarious. The delivery is just perfect.
Hm, I thought you would show him at the start of the game. I played a long time ago. But as far as I remember he used to be pretty normal at the start. But then he snapped.
No he was always fucked up, in the files it was explained that he would pretend he didn't know what markoff researchers were talking about whenever they brought up his childhood and would lash out if they presented him with pictures of his father or uncle. He would basically pretend he was en entirely different person, I think he was brought to the asylum because he murdered a bunch of women too. The only difference is that he didn't have any facial disfigurements in the beginning
This is realistic cause i had a friend who was inlove and was always paranoid over his gf....love is dangerous to the mind if you are not ready for it...by the way can we appreciate for a second the voice acting cause that transition from...calm..to angry to scared..understanding every 10 seconds is nuts...you can get how gluskin feels in every sutiation by his reactions
He's also seen at the very beginning of the DLC. He's the one that crashes into the window while Waylon is typing and says "You! I know you! You have to help me...." before being stuck in the Morphogenic Engine.
I’m pretty sure Eddie likes Waylon because he’s a regular guy unlike the messed up variants. That and he recognizes Waylon from the intro, though I doubt he 100% remembers the context.
*Trager* : "Buddy!" *Chris Walker* : "Little Pig!" *Eddie* : "Darling!" Meanwhile..... *Martha* : "In the book of life of the Lamb slain. By the crooked knife, Legion fettered every man chained.If any man hath an ear, he that leadeth in captivity. Bleeds false heaven's fear, beast seeds the cracked city.From seas heaven borne bear lion dragon leopard. Blasphemous seven horns of the mustard scion shepherd. Here is the patience, and the faith of the saints. The Lamb slain, foundation of the world. And pain found stained by the nation of the sword. Deceiveth them that dwell on the earth. Bleed the wench before hell after birth. And he make great wonders. Earthquakes flames thunder. Lake carrion, flayed woman, graves under Savior's wedding supper. He hath judged the great whore. Writ: Blood, Abram's worship. That ye may eat the flesh of kings, mighty men and horses. Fore death, hell and the rightous sing rightly there before him. Temple gate cuts the whore, bleed a price, the true ascend. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all amen. Do you hate him, God? Do you hate him God? Do you want him? Then you'll have him. Righteousness cannot pass in blood by loins, but the blood of your heart. The prophet don't need your help in finding the devil's whore and her rut-mate. Knoth questions even now other heretics at chapel. God'll guide him. You sinned when you denied the prophet your daughter. You sinned since to deny it. You know where the outsider is. His seed begat the enemy. God and the prophet both want his blood. God don't hear dead men. Be still. Take your penance. God loves you. God loves you. Catamite to the devil. Those who've rebelled against our God shall fall, their infants dashed to pieces all. Their women with child shall be ripped up... shall be ripped up... This way is forgiveness. I will be thy plague and thy ransom. Yes, Lord, for this is holy ground. Papa, I have sinned in failure. I will be ravenous in my penance. Pray with me. Your work shall be rewarded. How precious to me are Your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them. If I would count them, they are more than the sand. I awake, and am still with You. O, that you would slay the wicked, O Lord; O men of blood, depart from me. They speak against you with malicious intent. Your enemies take Your name in vain. Do I not hate those who hate You, O Lord? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You? I hate them with complete hatred; I count them my enemies. Search me, O God, and know my heart; try me and know my thoughts. And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Yes, Lord, like a pig. Spreader of lies. The spiller of foul seed. God give me voice, God guide my hand. God give me voice, God guide my hand. Shut up! Shut your fucking trap! In the 1971 year of Christ, in the 11th month on the dawn of the twenty sixth day, I was a prisoner of the usuries, a cobbler in the land of Al-Barquq, the mountain of the apricot tree called Albuquerque. And I was weighed by false debts to the Pharisees of Zion, condemned to bear a mark of shame by those clothed in shame. That man shall die. Shame! And you will know that I serve the Lord! There will be peace in the valley. I am slaughter in the face of iniquities. You will be a tribute unto the Lord. You have forsaken him. The stray sheep must be corrected. You play the whore in my father's house. Your blood shall be the tokens of my virginity. But where, Lord? I Am hath sent me unto you. The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, and of Knoth. He will, Lord, even unto his death. And it shall be your glory. And what shall I say to him? From his fundament to his chops, Lord. And then the child. RAH! God loves you. Let him love you. ... A blade's baptism for the spider-eyed lamb. My hate made in secret, wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Made perfect for the rut mate to the devil's whore. Will you slay the wicked, Lord? Is it written already in your perfect book? Stop... stop laughing! Shut your filthy... shut your filthy mouth! Stop... laughing... stop laughing! Shut your filthy mouth! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up, shut up! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God loves you." Personally, the antagonists from the first game remain more iconic and much more cooler than the ones from the second game
i couldn’t even complete outlast2, it is most definitely my least favorite. Outlast1 will always be my fav (until 3 comes out and we’ll see if it’s any good.
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I think a major factor in Eddie's disconnection with reality was not only the fact that he was abused, but this was at a young age and with a frequency that he thought it was normal, hence why he did it to others until he was captured.
I didn't get the chance to stop and think about the characters of the game. I just mostly run away from them and have nightmares about them. And yes they are still haunting me, and I am terrified everytime I see the name Outlast
I sucked that in outlast two they didn’t have characters like Gluskin and Traeger I mean I know they tried hard with the axe girl and the girl covered in mud (I’m sorry I can’t remember their names) but Traeger and Gluskin were terrifying and I remember watching those cut scenes and squirming because of how graphic it is.
I agree with you. For me the first games' antagonists were a little more memorable and terrifying. Btw the axe girl's name is Marta and the other is called Val (her gender is debatable..)
I appreciate you making these videos. I built my Twitch audience on this game when I started streaming in 2015, so I have a strong love with Outlast & Whistleblower. It is dope to finally see someone go in depth with the characters. Amazing content my friend.
I think when Eddie says he won't let anyone harm his children, not like... he may be talking about his mom. She may have known he was being abused and was too afraid to do anything about it since she was also a victim given the lines he says. He first went after women and now he sees the men he mutilates as women. So instead of just hating his father, he ends up resenting his mother as well or even more which is why he's so misogynistic. His hang up on being betrayed might also be because he felt betrayed by her. This actually happens a lot in situations like this where young children, especially young boys, are abused. Or maybe he thinks being misogynistic, probably like his father and uncle, makes him more of a real man.
"I've been a little ... vulgar. I know, and I want to say I'm sorry. I just... you know how a man gets when he wants to know a woman... "I promise I'll be a different man." While I think your analysis on this part is generally correct, these particular lines come off to me as an attempt at emotional manipulation. Naturally, it's easy to think "yeah nobody is fooled into thinking he's actually sorry because he's clearly batshit", which yes, this is easy to see when we also see him try kill people. But it's eerily similar to the lines have come from IRL abusive spouses, especially with promises of "being a different man", which is common when physically abusive people know they were wrong for beating their spouse and thus make empty apologies and promises to relieve their conscience and/or keep the abused in the relationship. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into this lol, but I think it's telling of how well Red Barrels wrote Eddie as an abusive "groom", because abusers are rarely ONLY physically abusive, but will manipulate you into having sympathy for them in, and that's how they keep you in that toxic relationship. (And it worked on players! I mean just look at the number of fanfic portraying the pairing as properly romantic)
Terrifying antagonist! All the skinned bodies hanging from the ceiling in the hall...and done in one night after the walrider was set free...how was that even possible! Hearing his voice in the dark talking to you calmly and clearly...so scary!! Him and Triger are my ultimate scary video game characters! Jack Baker comes in 3rd haha!
Lol, my bestie had a big crush on him. 😝 Can't judge, considering how most of my fictophile crushes are on crazy villains. 😌 He certainly has an interesting story; can't help but feel bad for Eddie, even though it's ultimately him versus the protag. And he's so overwhelmingly dangerous, that I can't even conjure up any AU ideas of him finding actual love. At best, I can only imagine someone lamenting his tragic tale, after having to put him down for everyone's safety.
I personally think he's talking about the way he approached Waylon (aggressively and "I WANT YOU TO HAVE MY BABY!" line) which could further prove he's very self-aware.
@@assiaelmabrouki5552 definitely that, and the "let me fill you up", which i think anyone will tell you isn't a great pick up line... he's definitely too self-aware about what a creep he is for my liking
@@nixace6030 I really don’t know what made me think that. Maybe because for me, I kinda grew up poor ( well cheap due to my mother) Each of my family members had to make their own clothing including me. Just made a sorta connection in my head “oh he sews and makes clothes he must have grown up broke” but I realize it must have been a hobby for most people.
@@mandydandy1170 ah interesting but I read somewhere (idk where anymore) that Eddie was unknowingly skilled with sewing, and he made himself his groom outfit and bride dress. That's kinda cute I think... but in a very twisted way lol.
As a game that is heavily based on the characters psychology I was hoping this series intended to be a lot more like silent hill unfortunately it didn't get much better after the dlc for 1.
"DARLING!!!!!!"
That just brought back flashbacks
Darling in the Franx
''DARLING OwO'' Man that face has me cracking up
Buko no Dahlin!!
''why would you do something like this to yourself?''
I noticed that Eddie’s first dialogue when he meets Waylon is an exact replica of the dialogue of the prince in sleeping beauty when he first meets Aurora. Given Eddies age it makes sense that he would have watched it when he was younger and modelled his “courting” of Waylon with that of the movie.
I never noticed that!
It's also the kind of courtship he would've grew up watching in old fasioned black and white movies where women were thought of as easily frightened fragil creatures who needed strong men to woo them, assure them of love, and save them from a life of loneliness and becoming unmarriable after age 30.
I just read the script, and I can bascally remember the exact dialogue Gluskin says because I watch a LOT of stuff related to Outlast, and this is 100% correct. COOL DETAILS!!
wowie
In the actual fairy tale the prince banged Aurora in her sleep knocked her up with twins
Also fun fuct: Waylon IS a father to 2 boys in this game, which is revealed in a note you find in the asylum which was written by his wife who actually figured out something was wrong at Mount Massive and was being threatened into silence essentially. So, imagine laying on a slab and being told you will be castrated by a psychopath to become a wife/mother for him and his future children, knowing your own wife and sons are at home wondering where you are. It's quite terrifying.
I know right?! When I realised that he already had a family, I was so shocked with what Eddie intented to do with him 0_0
Yeah, That's partly why that document and Waylons notes made me sad.
@@teaganwillier-lauck638 Yeah but I wonder what happens next, after uploading the video... The lore of the outlast universe is very interesting, the new outlast game seems like it's where it all started... Murkoff experimenting people and whatnot
I think,he forgot a lot of his life thats why
What's worse is that his wife was going to get hurt by Blaire too. Truly fucked up situation.
It never even clicked to me that he could be repeating his father's and uncle's words.
Damn...that makes a lot of sense
So his father and uncle are "possessing" him?
I dont think thats what he meant, I think he just meant that the trauma he experienced later impacted his character leading to him repeating stuff he had heard from when he was abused
@@lameless3254
Disturbing.
Eddie is a pretty tragic character. Even though he's batshit there's that little tiny bit of humanity in the madness.
Agreed.
I think he actually has a lot of humanity which hear me out, what I mean that he’s seen it all, been through a lot and it turned him into this monster who can’t get a grasp on how anything works, unlike most serial killer who also aren’t that big on the whole “love” thing, just the sexual pleasure. He’s gotten too into being better than his father and starting a family, though he’s far from perfect, in fact a shitty person overall. I think that what makes him seriously makes him human, a big chaotic mess whos turned into something they never wanted to be.
That's the best part of his design, imo. You know you have to run from him... but you also kinda want to hear what he has to say. Horror works best when it's fascinating as well as repulsive.
He just wanted to have a happy family man :[
@@FTZPLTC honestly i feel extremely bad for him, like i really wish we could just turn around and hug it out and help him with his trauma, he's clearly fucking insane and extremely miss guided, its extremely sad, like he was just a kid its not really his fault for how he turned out
"Darling! I need you to try to bleed.. less." sounds like someone would tell their girlfriends when they're on their period
Lmao tf
The fact that i understand concerns me
who gave him a knife and a tuxedo?
@@vinceburnnes.6169 John wick
@@FROST_HUGGERmaybe. just maybe.
One of the best things about Gluskin, imo, is that even though you know you've got to run from him... you also REALLY want to hang back and hear what he has to say. It's a nice mix of fear and fascination.
Ikr! They really did a great job with this character. His charisma and all made you actually want to stay with him and to "help" him, but he was still crazy and twisted so you had to run for your life. Golden writing here
Naaah I'm good not hanging around him lol
While Eddie LITERALLY wanted to HANG out with you;)))
The saddest part of Eddie is the fact that he never realized it was abuse. All he knew was that it hurt.
Not gonna lie, When I first met Eddie I kinda fell of his voice and felt bad until he called me a s’ut. Soon enough I found out his backstory and felt extremely bad for him then I read the women part and was a little less forgiving about it. While I play I feel so bad for him yet he still terrifies me a little to much for my liking.
Ikr like I just want to hug him but at the same time I want to drop kick him
Yeah i felt exactly the same, like he's probably the most terrifying outta the bunch of villains yet i feel the most sympathy for him
@@fobo3361 chris walker is also sad man
@@mudfightmaster4275 yea
this is the most 14 years old girl comment i have ever read
I think there is another in this story: the grief against his mother. I mean, where was HIS MOTHER when he was abused by his own father?
Completely agreed. Lack of the mother’s inclusion in Eddie’s backstory is very telling tho - she must have fallen in line with the abuse, or maybe something happened to her.
I agree! I kinda wonder if that's actually what he's after: the "perfect girl" is someone like his mom in some way. Might explain the "I want a girl" song XD
@@REDdragon4108 so he has an oedipal complex in some twisted way.
My opinion is that: The mother probably was the victim, when he said something like I’ll be the better man wonder if he’s referring to how his father treated her but at the same time he saw the things they’ve done to her he feels like the value of the woman isn’t useful compared to a man since he went through all that ig longer than the mother
His mother sided with his father because she caught Eddie doing the same things to his sister. She didn't see her son as a victim she saw Eddie as a monster who made those choices. This is because of the era he grew up in. In his time, children were expected to be well behaved little adults who were responsible for their own actions, no matter what they were.
Hes a r/NiceGuy to the extremest level
R/NiceGuy combined with R/Letsnotmeet.
He gave her everything, he was always cordial and spoke nicely and they dared to say no to him. This will not do. Knife to groin for you.
i was gonna say that
@@shutupandsleep6728 probably would be called r/Niceletsnotmeet or r/Niceguyletsnotmeet
He's the epitome or the physical form of r/NiceGuy
I also think Waylon is special to him since he saw him at the beginning of the game.Eddie is the guy who flung himself at the window when Waylon is fixing the computer,he get dragged away and put into the machine. He even says to Waylon when they meet again "We've met before haven't we? I know I've seen your face." it's interesting since he also says "Maybe, just before I woke up." as if before going into the machine is a bit hazy or something,or just before he became awakened into being 'The Groom' fully.
Waylon is literally the one who got away.
No it’s a pickup line that basically means he thinks Waylon is angelic and that he has seen him in dreams. It’s actually a really smooth pickup line when you think about it lol
@@modderkevin5124 Could mean both really, could also be a reference to sleeping beauty. The disney and original ver, the disney ver the prince was smooth and Gluskin said basically the same thing "Im awfully sorry I didn't mean to frighten you" "But we've met before, you said so yourself, once upon a dream", (yes that is the exact quote from the movie even reminded me of sleeping beauty when i first heard it) apologised for frightening you, then mentioned the meeting in his dream, his tone was even kinda suave in his first line, it's a very different tone compared to his other lines. The original it was a prince/king who raped her while she was sleeping. Its fascinating to think about the layers of one detail like his intro line like; coincidence or did the creators really put that much thought? Either way it's still cool!
@@nicolelouise7295 it’s big brain time
"You would rather die then be with me"
Well if I go with you, I'd die.
Haha ikr i just love the contradictions of his mindset. If you go with him, it is legit suicide. If he catches you, then it's gonna be the same conclusion: dead end.
I mean if he got a hold of himself and then you both get out of the asylum and you get gender reassignment surgery it probably should be fine
Are we gonna ignore the the fact, that we meet Groom at the first 10 minutes of the DLC? Waylon was forced to turn on the device that made him a psycho murderer.
yeah :(
Wich is impressive, bcuz he killed all these people in that short amout of time!
@@vinnie4609 Yup! Considering everything that goes on, you tend to forget that all this is happening in just a couple of hours.
Oh yeah... him screaming for help and that they're going to rape him right at the start of the game was a great set up... and really really tragic... maybe he's angry at Waylon for turning the on...
And that’s what made him choose waylon
Eddie also had a little sister. If you look up the audio of Eddie's full dialog which also includes the unused scripts that weren't put in the game it shows a lot more to him.
The abuse his uncle and dad put him through was sexual and at his young age he didn't actually know or understand that what they were doing to him was abuse. He actally states this himself in one if the unused audio clips. He says that only after when he discovered how filthy and how wrong it was, that's when it hurt.
In one if the cut audio clips, during one of the chase scenes with Waylon, he goes out of character and randomly screams out "how could you touch your little sister like that?" at Waylon and he expresses such hurt emotion and betrayal while saying it. -This was confirmed as a verbalized memory of what his mother said to him.
Since he was made to believe that what they were doing to him was normal, he attempted to do the same things to his sister.... And because of the era he grew up in, because adults only thought of bad learned behavior as "a choice" and because they believed that it was entirely on the children for making those choices, he was blamed.
In his time, people didn't really see it as "re-enacting" or "projecting" when a child practiced molestation or assault on another kid, they usually just saw it as the child being crazy and bad.
Basically when his mother caught him doing all those things to his sister, she was appauled and saw him as a monster instead of a victim. This is what created Eddie's misogyny and complete hatred for women until he came to the assylum and had his brain scrambled.
Wow, nice comment. :)
It's a real shame they didn't include that detail, it would have added more depth to the character.
Although in a way that actually reminds me of Blake and Jessica in Outlast 2. It's easy to see Jessica's abuse, but what's overlooked is how Blake himself was also sexually abused and made to feel shame for it. Although Blake isn't a misogynist, I get the sense he has a ton of repressed anger and the brain frying events of Outlast 2 might have turned him into a someone even more vengeful and delusional than Eddie.
@@mattmedrala1947 explain me what happened to Blake in Outlast 2 pls
I didn't know he had a sister
@@loindeshommes09 Blake was caught and abused by Loutermilch the same night that he witnessed Jessica's death - the game hints at this with the unskippable jumpscare in the dark hallway full of lockers marking the point where the demon starts harming you, which chronologically marked the point Loutermilch STOPPED chasing Blake. My guess is that Loutermilch found Blake hiding in a locker, abused him, and then forced him to help cover up Jessica's death.
If you've never learned how to love, you make up a definition for yourself. Eddie Gluskin is the perfect example of a child (extreme) sexual abuse survivor who has had no help whatsoever and instead was turned over to an asylum to be yet another victim. A tragic and very well written character.
Fun fact: Inside the code, Eddie is actually stronger than Chris Walker in terms of punch attacks, with Chris having a strength value of 101 and Eddie having a strength value of 110. Both would obviously instantly kill us as our health at max is 100, so there's no other reason for the value to be higher for Eddie unless the Devs were leaving a little Easter egg (Chris' throw is still more powerful than Eddie's, however)
I was not expecting that '-' but that's a nice fact tho
Another fun fact: He also happens to have alot of Walker's animations
it makes sense actually if we count on that chris has a little room to momentum his punch, his beer belly is a huge disadvantage lol
@@baskomiseremir his dad body HAHAHAHAHA
Which makes no sense because chris can effortlessly break doors, smash reinforced glass, rip off peoples heads, survive gun shots, etc.
yet with miles hes all gentle like 🥰🥰
Love that people can still talk about this guy even after, what, 7-8 years after the game first released. He's my favorite.
As a man. Watching the torture scene made me gag and literally almost vomit. Anything related to genital mutilation always makes me sick.
Im a woman and even I crossed my legs 🤣 Especially when he "paper-cutted" that one guy
Ok
Man, I remember when this game came out. I watched a playthrough early on, I knew I was too jumpy to play for myself, and good _god,_ Eddie was my LEAST FAVORITE by far. My stomach churned, I felt disgusting and just, oh hell no.
I really hope the guys that wrote this had a great laugh grossing us out, or else I bet they felt like they needed twenty consecutive showers. XDDD
puss
@@lycan2494 troll 🙄
To me he's the most frightening but therefore the best written character in the whole game. The "DIY Bride" scene keeps giving me deep chills everytime I watch it...
"DIY Bride" 🤣 i love how you called it
SPN unfortunately didn't mention the very important fact that Eddie is also the first Variant we see at the beginning of Whistleblower.
*_Eddie_* is the same guy they're bringing in to put in The Morphegenic Chamber. Eddie is the same guy that screams out *_"I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING TO ME! HELP! HELP ME! THEY'RE GOING TO RAPE ME! RAPE! RAAAAAAPE!"_* And, Eddie is that same guy that runs to you and begs you to help him beyond the glass. *_"HELP ME! DON'T LET THEM DO THIS! DON'T LET THEM! YOU! I KNOW YOU CAN STOP THIS! YOU HAVE TO HELP ME! YOU HAVE TO!!!!!"_*
The reason Eddie is so obsessed with Waylon isn't just because he's the one that got away, *HE'S THE LAST THING EDDIE SEES BEFORE THE WALRIDER POISONS HIS MIND. EDDIE, REMEMBER US. HE ALL BUT CONFIRMS IT IN THE FIRST ENCOUNTER.* _"Did I frighten You? I'm awfully sorry, I didn't mean to. We've met before, haven't we? _*_I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOUR FACE. MAYBE... JUST BEFORE I WOKE UP. Though it SEEMS like a dream now,_*_ being here with You."_
That isn't just a very sly nod to Sleeping Beauty. Somehow, in Eddie's polluted mind, he not only remembers Waylon, but his belief that Waylon could be the one to save him from Murkoff manifested into him being the one that could give Eddie the family he never had.
Outlast had amazing villains, yo.
Wow! Nicely said, i didnt noticed!!
I also had the exact idea too! When I watched the Whistleblower, when Waylon was in underground lab where he met Eddie, I had a feeling he would be the last thing Eddie will remember and will be obsessed with. And lo and behold, when he encountered Eddie again, I hit right on the nails.
Eddie is a fucking creep and I would run the opposite direction if I ever saw him but he has a way with his words like it's kinda romantic and he speaks like a gentleman sometimes
I don’t think anyones gonna notice unless I bring this up but you really did great with using the italics and bold and capitalized words and mixing them all together to create unique fonts. I know we can do it too but you took advantage of it to give the dialogue captions *FLAVOR*
It’s not just plain ole text, not that anyone would complain if you did it that way anyway. But I appreciate the effort and passion you put into it regardless. Gives it oomph
I wished that Eddie would escape with Waylon far away from the Asylum, be friends... That would be perfect ending ❤️
This man is scarier than any monster, any villain, or any thing in any video game, movie, book, or tv show I have ever been exposed to. he legitimately gave me nightmares. congrats to red barrels for making some truly mind-scarring villains.
I've seen worse, but I can't think of any offhand, which is a testament to him being up there
Professor Pyg from Batman: Arkham Knight is also another unhinged villain who is pretty similar to Eddie.
I just realized you can see Eddie running through the dark before you meet him at the door. I can’t believe I missed it the first few playthroughs. It genuinely terrified me. Scariest character, by far. I love creepy little hints like that
I always thought that was a variant running. I didn't know it was him. I'll have to check that out.
You can see him much earlier actually. After running away from Chris Walker down that straight hall and jumping out the window, at the part where you have to turn off the power, there's a building that I think was a church. I don't remember exactly. If you enter it and go to the door in the center, you can see Eddie walking slowly through the little window.
@@LoneCommentWanderer Yeah I'm familiar with that part. It was a small sample of what was to come for Waylon.
Chris Walker was scary dude AF. But Eddie give me a nightmare first time when i play game...
Chris and wallrider were your casual under the bed monsters, classic buffs that are uncommunicatable. Meanwhile eddie was very realistic and as layered as a cabbage
@@unslaadkrosis9435 Chris has quite an interesting backstory too actually
Really ?
@@unslaadkrosis9435 Walker is much more layered than you’d expect actually
My question is...in the start of the Whistleblower dlc, you see Eddie Gluskin freaking out and screaming about being raped. Could his time inside the morphogenic engine/the Walrider project actually have caused Gluskin to become more erratic? I mean all the experiences inside the asylum point to the fact that the experiments there were doing a lot to trigger the patients.
I'm inclined to think that not only was it possible that Murkoff employees molested him - as we see one do to Waylon - but the Morphogenic engine forces him to relive his traumatic memories of abuse. I'd go beyond that and say it's possible the Walrider itself may have been fornicating with him - it's strongly hinted that it's trying to impregnate women, and the mythological notes you pick up on the Walrider imply it's 'bisexual'.
Here's something to ponder: Gluskin claimed in his patient's notes to 'hear the Walrider'. Murkoff dismissing him actually strengthens this idea because a recurring theme in these notes is the doctors being too arrogant to believe their patients. Now compare Eddie's obsession with creating 'women' to impregnate and kill with Outlast 2's cult devotion to mass impregnation. Another thing to consider is that you seemingly hear the cry of the Walrider right before Gluskin dies. My theory is that the Gluskin was partially compatible with the Walrider and he was unknowingly trying to fulfill its desire of 'having a family', but when the Walrider switched hosts from Billy to Miles it also led to Eddie losing his strength and dying for it.
Lastly: Murkoff apparently had photographs of the abuse Eddie was subjected to in his childhood. Is it really that far fetched to consider his abusers were Murkoff agents and he may have been a sleeper agent of theirs even before Mount Massive? The upcoming prequel game is going to elaborate on Murkoff's history, and I can't help but think Eddie's fetishization of the 1950s coincided with the era of Outlast Trials.
@@mattmedrala1947 wow. this was the most brilliant theorizing and explanation I have ever read on Eddie. This just made me so much more inclined to see the Outlast Trials! Hopefully they connect the previous Outlast settings and characters so we can look forward to uncovering the background behind some of the abominations that were seen in the game.
@@salvinas.2587 Thanks! It's entirely possible I'm overthinking things (and going mad over the wait for the newest game), but I still see a strong throughline between the sexual abuse themes of Outlast 2 and Whistleblower, and IMO it adds to the intrigue if Eddie was following a similar form of manipulation to what we saw of Val and Knoth. The way I see it, the Walrider was desperate to find a woman who could give birth to it and that is why Eddie speaks about impregnating Waylon after castrating him - him murdering his victims immediately after castration might be a subconscious rage at the fact that Eddie's best efforts still fail him.
Outlast Trials is set a few years prior to Eddie's birth, but it's still set in the era which he idolizes and I wonder if we might get some hints as to whether his father or uncle had any affiliation with Murkoff. It might be controversial for some people to reveal that Murkoff was responsible for his childhood abuse (IMO the same can be extended to Loutermilch and Blake), but personally I think it fits how nefarious and powerful the corporation is.
One other interesting connection to consider: Trials will focus on the 'sleeper agent' component of the MKUltra project, where people would be forced via torture and drugging to develop 'killer' split personalities that take over without the main personality consciously remembering or being in control. In Outlast 2 we had Blake wandering around in a lucid dreaming state but even in Whistleblower they threaded in hints at this through Dissociative Dennis. Something worth considering about Eddie's 'split personality' is that in his patient file he seems to not have conscious memory of the women he killed and has a psychotic break when he's confronted with evidence of his trauma - it's possible that Eddie might have been a programmed killer even before the asylum, and what we see in Whistleblower is the result of that killer personality completely taking over. The tragedy then is that when we see Eddie pleading for Waylon's salvation, this is the last and only time we get to see the 'real' Eddie.
@@mattmedrala1947 WHAT THE HECK you just made my mind go BOOM at least three times whilst reading this.
I am incredibly on board with most of everything you stated, and I also wanted to expand on Dennis' connection to everything. You brought up Dissociative Dennis in relation to the 'sleeper' agent experiments. Similar to the topic of that, I really wonder how he knows about Gluskin. Yes, he's just a floor above him, so he may possibly hear the commotion going on beneath him. . . but how does he know to lure men into Gluskin's den so he can 'save himself'? His main purpose in the story is to lead Waylon to the floor below, and he gleefully states "He delivered his own self to Gluskin's hell," when Waylon escapes from him by unknowingly dragging himself into Eddie's arms. I wonder if he had some experience with him before (prior to when Gluskin lost all the humanity he had -- which we had witnessed at the very beginning of Whistleblower in the Underground), because it is highly unlikely Gluskin would have given Dennis up or let him escape if he had been to his floor.
And about what you mentioned on MKUltra, it does seem that Dennis was a result of the project, and it is also very likely that Eddie also originated from there too. . . seeing as he cried "they're going to rape me" at the beginning of Whistleblower whilst he was being dragged into those experimental glass spheres. He also mentions that Waylon had the ability to stop it all -- and, though it may be a coincidence, it's interesting that he runs up to Waylon, a 'new face' at the Underground, rather than the other men around him, who Gluskin would have obviously seen condoning Murkoff's abuse (his imprisonment) before. Maybe he was blindly hoping that Waylon would have enough humanity to save him (though the circumstances would have never allowed that to happen) before being completely converted into a monster as a result of the experimentation.
If all that was true, (and this is where my revelation comes) it would be very likely that Dennis and Eddie had known each other as prisoners due to this experimentation, which is why Dennis is so cautious of Eddie, because he knows how severely Murkoff had broken him. This analysis truly makes a tragic character.
I'm also really curious as to what you mean by the statement of "Murkoff was responsible for his childhood abuse." Is this similar to how those twin baby experiements, where one twin goes to a well-off family while the other goes to a poor one and they are analyzed on the effects the environment has on them (well, essentially this but a more messed up version where Eddie was purposefully forced into a place in which he was horrdily sexually abused)? I was actually thinking more along the lines of him being picked up by Murkoff at a much later stage in his life, and that the sexual abuse he experienced was something that truly happened without relation to Murkoff. His documentation stated that he was a man who killed women after suffering traumatic abuse at the hands of his father and uncle, and I am more inclined to believe the transition between his sexual abuse to a serial killer was the time when Murkoff had founded him and changed him into this psychopathic, 'split personality' person through their experimentation. This is also supported by Dennis and his split personalities -- he had a very southern accent and it seems that he is keeping his past, real family alive through his personalities.
Honestly though, this game is a really fascinating take on corruption with a horror genre. I'm really glad for your comments -- your connections are super insightful !
@@salvinas.2587 Aw, I really appreciate the enthusiasm! Even though there's plenty of (warranted) discussion regarding this character, there's certain interpretations that connect him to other parts of the series that I haven't seen many other people talk about. So be warned, I'll be touching on multiple different observations/theories I've had regarding elements of the narrative that will ultimately tie into why I think it's likely we may see some hints at Murkoff being involved with the Gluskins even before Mount Massive.
I like your interpretation of Dennis having some prior history with Eddie. I do think there's an intentional thematic foreshadowing in having this character who embodies multiple personalities (minds/'souls') in one body right before you meet the Groom, whose overtly 'proper' exterior thinly disguises a sexually violent brute. I don't really think Murkoff was still conducting their 'sleeper assassin' experiments by the time of the first game - the impression I get was that this was a 'past' experiment and their reopening of the asylum was devoted more towards 'salvaging' people to make them Walrider hosts - but I do wonder if there was some intentionality in further 'breaking' Dennis into exhibiting multiple personalities. The reason why I say this is because although Dr. Wolfram's report on Dennis dismisses him as a liar and conveniently suggests 'electroshock therapy' (which would further break his mind), his note on Martin in the base game shows his suspicions as he says "it's as if Murkoff WANTS our patients to become more disengaged from reality." To me that would suggest that the psychopathic variants ARE the intended product of the experiments and not just 'failures'.
As for the question of how much involvement Murkoff may have had with protecting/assisting sexual abusers and other conspiracies...this is going to bring in some observations about Outlast 2 and Whistleblower as well as some assumptions regarding Trials, but I hope it'll be coherent. This first started back when I was trying to figure out why Loutermilch's voice was audible during the hallucination recordings in Outlast 2. There are 3 explanations I've found, none of which are entirely satisfactory but have their own merits:
1: BLAKE might be muttering these things himself, implying that he has internalized his trauma so much that he has a repressed persona that identifies heavily with his abuser. On one hand this could be a tragic and sinister twist on Blake (he could be like Eddie, simultaneously muttering about Jessica and ready to commit atrocities as his 'Loutermilch' persona), but I think there's a little too much in the recordings for it to just be Blake's own hallucinations/imagination.
2: Loutermilch's voice was recorded in some way and then seeded into the transmissions. This begs the questions of HOW Murkoff would have had access to him admitting to criminal acts and WHY they'd broadcast that at Templegate. I COULD imagine that they might have hidden a microphone inside a confessional box and used it to blackmail Loutermilch later on, but I'm not sure why they'd specifically bring in his voice unless he was a Murkoff asset.
3: There's a supernatural element involved, something along the lines of Blake's psychic potential being 'unlocked' and thus giving him access to the memories of both Jessica and Loutermilch. I do suspect this is happening during gameplay as there's information that I highly doubt young Blake would have known (on top of him having suppressed a ton), but even so I'm not sure if we're having 'Loutermilch's ghost' speaking over the radio.
[I'll continue in another comment, lest this one get too long for UA-cam.]
He was actually my fav in the game.
The betrayal theme is common in abuse because imagine being a child getting abused by your care giver. The humiliation and shame of being punished by someone you rely on to survive compounded by trauma and emotional abuse would make that child distrustful and resentful to the max. Trauma survivors struggle to trust future relationships for similar reasons.
I believe Eddie is the guy who runs up to the window at the beginning of the game
where exactly? you got me confused cause I dont remember that xD
@@halflife2893 before you get caught for being a whistleblower you're in the lab and a guy runs up to the window and gets pulled away
Yup, that’s Eddie. He even remarks it in his dialogue
Yes, it was him. Before the Murkoff machine made him snap and changed his appearance.
He is
Well Waylon how writes involving his kids and often making it for his wife, you can tell Waylon is a family guy something that Eddie seems to desire. I think Eddie may had found some of those notes and found features he thinks he desire in a spouse. I also think that deep down Eddie is subconsciously jealous of Waylon.
Yeah, he has a family while he's alone...
I always thought his obsession with Waylon began when he was being experimented on and looked to Waylon for help..maybe he wanted revenge on Waylon for just watching, or even worse, maybe he could see that Waylon genuinely felt sorry for him and despite his past as a serial killer thought that he didn't deserve what happened, but he still allowed it all the same..but he fact Waylon had genuine feelings for him even for a bit must have been the first and last time anyone treated him like a person, so he latched on to that sympathy as he was being tortured and twisted it in his mind
Waylon did not _have feelings for_ Eddie, he _felt for_ him
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 when i say "feelings' i mean feelings of sympathy or pity, he probably clung to those basic human emotions and twisted them, or misunderstood them for love, thats the only way i can comprehend why waylon, since he wasn't the only person present in the room, why stick to him specifically, why go out of his way to even remember him at all. he even leaves his territory looking for him, when it would have been easier to just wait around for victims, he actively chased.
@@emokid732 I'm aware of all of that. I was only saying to "have feelings for" someone is to be attracted to them, while "feeling for" someone is sympathy
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 well i have clarified my meaning
I also feel like Eddie's trust issues and constant lines of someone betraying him comes from his childhood. There is a lack of mother in his backstory and I think that's due to the fact that she left them and therefore quite literally left Eddie alone. And thanks to that his father took his frustration out on him, making Eddie feel like his mother betrayed him.
I honestly feel bad for Chris, Eddie, Frank, The Twins, and all the other variants.
They were people likes us, who either suffered in life, or suffered due to Murkoff’s actions at Mount Massive.
They suffered so much, that most of them were brought to the point of insanity, like Eddie here.
The only one I don’t feel bad for is Trager, because he wasn’t a victim of Murkoff’s actions, he contributed to those actions.
It is said that Murkoff needed the patients to be insane in order for the Walrider to be created. They stopped the treatments that were helping them and influencing the patients' insanity.
Eddie gluskin believes he is from leave it to beaver according to one of his documents you find after you jump from the window to escape Eddie
What is Leave it to Beaver
@@evanallaire2829 a 1950s sitcom
@@renamon5658 oh... Are you a furry
@@evanallaire2829 to be honest i don't know what i am
Well that took a turn
The saddest part is he probably would’ve been normal if he wasn’t abused. He killed those women to take back the control that was taken from him as a child.
Edit: My interpretation was wrong, read the replies.
He killed those women because his mother saw him as a monster when she caught him doing the same things to his sister. He didn't know that what his uncle and dad were doing was wrong and even states this in the unused dialog. He lived in an era where families were meant to be perfect and children were expected to be little adults. They didn't believe that children couldn't be responsible for their own choices, because they thought that children had a built in natural ability to discern right from wrong always. So Eddie was villified as a child because his mother didn't/wouldn't see him as a victim
No women but he thinks men as a women
@@ShantiDoss2000 he killed women BEFORE the assylum. It's in his bio
Do you know where to find the source for that info? I’m trying to find it but I’m having no luck myself...
@@daniellehayes1986 where does it talk about his sister or what his mother thought of him?
I agree me with a great deal of what you’ve analysed, but there’s some parts I can agree to disagree on.
Eddie absolutely ISNT a hopeless romantic. This Groom and Bride shenanigans is pure escapism and a cover up for his true intentions.
Personally I think that he is specifically chasing Waylon because of 1. What you said about the cycle of chase, and 2. Because he himself says that he recognises him from the intro of whistleblower where he didn’t HELP him [betrayal] out of being tortured by Murkoff.
Let me elaborate [this is gonna be loads of fangirl rambling, please excuse me]
Consider this: Eddie was very lucid at the beginning of the game. He is very much aware of what is going to happen to him in the morphogenic engine once he gets hypnotised. Then amidst all the chaos of the Walrider outbreak he had to free himself from his sphere [look at his sphere in the original outlast. It’s shattered there], wich means that dream therapy was still ongoing while he freed himself, and judging from what Murkoff’s scientists talked about the script...it had to be very traumatic. An abrupt end to a therapy segment like that doesn’t sound very safe to his mental state to me.
I like to compare Eddie’s mental state after breaking out of the sphere as an experience similar to Blake Langermann’s at the end of Outlast II; high out of his mind hallucinating like fucking crazy. The effect would of course wear off over time [see waylons abstract hallucinations at the beginning of whistleblower], but it would leave him very confused and less than lucid. Now, Blake in that state retracted to childlike behaviour, and Eddie most likely would retract back to his serial killer ways, a period in his life where through his ability to manipulate and finally be in total control over life and death he felt the most in control; back when he most likely lured women in by being his manipulative and falsely charming self just for him to kill them. Add the traumatic childhood, his wish for a normal life and family & idealisation of vintage family values, sprinkle the lack of female Variants in Mount Massive on top and voila: we got Eddie’s actual motive: creating women for him to kill them.
Waylon himself deduces this in his notes, and there’s a line that’s semi "hidden" in the castration scene, that further shows that Eddie absolutely ISNT a hopeless romantic:
After the Variant tackles him, and Eddie and him get into a scuffle, Eddie cries out: "You’re not done DYING you slut". This line wasn’t covered here for some reason, but I can excuse that, because a lot of people don’t pick up on it.
Eddie doesn’t have any romantic intentions what so ever. All he wants to do is use women as an outlet for his frustrations i.e killing and torturing them for his own enjoyment. Buuut there are no women in Mount Massive so he has to diy them by chopping off their vulgar parts :)
Lovely man.
Now on a more sad note: my personal theory about what could be the reason for his misogyny and obsession about betrayal.
The document we find in the courtyard mentions a lot about him, like A LOT, but it neglects something I’ve always wondered about: What about his mother? Why is there no mention of her? If his dad abused his mother, surely there would be mention of that right? And if that were the case and his dad mistreated his dear darling mum who suffered alongside her son, then he would be aware and not turn a misogynistic leaf at all, because he’d feel sympathetic toward a loved female family member? Instead of being a misogynistic serial killer perhaps he would grow up to be a pëdophile headhunter [wich..,that’s an AU concept I’m ABSOLUTELY behind! Loutermilch vs 90’s Eddie Gluskin avenging Jessica? Fuck yeah!], but we all know that this isn’t the case.
His hatred of women could granted come from multiple places. Him being a male victim and not being taken seriously, him growing up in the late sixties/early seventies like you said, and I think those are definitely contributors, but his hate is obviously on a personal level. Long story short, I guess we either have a "Precious" situation, where his mother abused him because he "stole her husband" [his dad and uncle did get incarcerated apparently, and a woman without a husband having to provide back theeeen...yeeah, she’d be mad as hell at her "whore" of a son], a simple case of his mother turning a blind eye, or her being complicit in the abuse Eddie suffered in the sense that she’d help her husband and brother in law cover up their tracks [there are "photographic documentations of the abuse", wich to me is very obviously code for Eddie’s Father and uncle making and perhaps distributing CP]. That would be less likely tho because then she’d absolutely be mentioned in the document, so I’m sticking to the first two options.
Maybe I’m totally off and his mum never had anything to do with his misogyny, but it seems to be the most logical origin of his hate in my opinion. It coming from a place of betrayal from someone who consciously deciding not to help him, therefore betraying him in the worst way possible.
Anyhoo, I’m really counting on maybe finding out more about the Gluskin Family Tragedy in Trials, since it’s gonna take place during the Cold War, wich means MKUltra, wich means early seventies, wich means illegal experimentation in prisons judging from the promo art, wich means that maybe we can avenge Eddie and lynch some pedos!!!
[pls Red Barrels I’m begging you. Val’s death scene was cut, Loutermilch got off unscathed, so PLEASE, I need to witness some rapists die a horrible horrible death. I was counting on Eddie eventually killing them himself but oh well. I guess my boy can’t have any nice things after all...]
Completely agree on your point about Eddie's escapism and that's something I didn't pick up when his "Not Like.." line went unfinished. If he inches even just a little bit towards his past, the present reality, he completely avoids it. I assumed this meant he was aware, but this also means he's actively trying to push down the truth. I believe there are some files that clear this up even more.
I tried my best not to do the whole "took one psychology class in college" takes but it is true - lack of a mother figure usually dictates misogynistic views (might be more of a bad parenting thing but subliminally it makes sense), either way his obsession with cutting man parts off and being an extreme perfectionist MUST be linked to his past abuse. It's all connected (or disconnected, in this case). Prepping up this vid definitely made me lookout for trials tho!
You make really great points, but as another fangirl ( :D ) I'd disagree with a few of the things you said.
Mostly stuff about the "You’re not done DYING you slut" thing. I looked the scenes & dialgoue options of him up and the context where he says it is actually not with the protagonist.
When Waylon is on the...bench? With the buzzsaw, just before he gets castrated, another random inmate attacks Eddie and they both wrestle. While Waylon flees in the trouble, Eddie gets one smack over the head, to which he chases after the attacker, screaming at him, because...well he's angry.
In general, I think Eddie's mental state flunctuates between a form of "Mania" and "Aggression", kinda like you said. However, I don't think he has "no romantic intentions whatsoever" and just wants to harm women, I think it's more...complicated then that. In general, Eddie seems to have split himself in two versions of himself: Good Eddie, which is the guy who wants to marry and live a happy life, and Angry Eddie, the guy who murders & swears. Imagine it as a form of DID, only without an alter Ego, just a different mindset.
The reasoning starts in the documents. In the ingame document "Project Walrider Patient Status Reports of Eddie Gluskin", it is said that Eddie tried to create a fake past for himself (growing up in a "Leave it to Beaver" home) and that he never admitted that the women he killed were dead or mutilated. According to the Wikia he'd also rather insist that the dead women were "just sleeping", no matter the evidence.
If Eddie would activley want to kill & torture women -wouldn't he proudefully talk about how he killed them, or at least accept that he killed them? Don't get me wrong; I'm not disagreeing on the mother theory. I think what Eddie's Problem is, that he himself is split in two about the things he actually wants.
In game, Eddie spends most of the time drowning in his escapism. To blend out his past & present situation, Eddie lives in his make-belief that he's a young man, trying to marry a young woman. Aka what you can hear in his song. He sets his eyes on anyone that he sees as a woman (not going to question insanity here) and takes special interest in Waylon because he saw him at the beginning, aka stayed in his mind. "Good Eddie" is the personality you see at the beginning. The one obsessed with his happy ending, the one that holds the rant on "I want a family".
Meanwhile, "Angry Eddie" is what you could call the "defense mechanism" of him. Similar to DID, people under great stress & trauma tend to create extra "parts" that help them cope with a certain situation, and deal with a similar situation when it pops up again. Eddie has a very visible mother-complex, which he projects on other women. This can be seen in the quote "One more. I try and I try. And you all betray me." just before he drags Waylon to the gymnasium. Of course, this could be a reference to his "failed" brides that "gave up on love", but it could also be interpreted as Eddie being betrayed by his mother in times of need and then afterwards forming a crooked defense mechanism that hurts unsuspecting women (and men). "Angry Eddie" generalises women as wh'res, LOUDLY talks about how he is going to kill Waylon and rip his guts out. He is not talking about "sending you to sleep", he is open about wanting to kill & having killed other women. In general, I'd say his mind works in a "if you're not with me, you're against me" way. When Waylong falls down the elevator, you can hear the shift basically
Eddie: "Oh god. Oh god, are you okay? Tell me you're okay. I hate to think of you suffering without me."
-> Good Eddie, living his fantasy
"Why would you do something like that to yourself? You'd rather... Rather die than be with me?"
-> switch of realisation. His fantasy has been broken and so he fears danger. He learned that a woman either loves him (idealisation) or that she wants to harm him in active/passive ways (which is triggered through the idea of Waylon rather wanting to die -> it translates into "I hate you" -> I am going to harm you)
"Then die."
-> Angry Eddie.
@@katziliaf It’s funny because that was always my first interpretation of him when I first seen this portion of the game years back. Especially at the point when the random inmate helps the protagonist u can see the switch as well. That and the fact that Gluskin is very strong, yet tries to portray a gently soft side. That is until he gets angry and all that goes out the window. I never realized other people didn’t really notice this cause at the time I assumed it was obvious
@@katziliaf i think its much less a DID thing for eddie and more of a borderline personality disorder thing-- i have bpd and im ashamed to say i relate to that "good vs angry" thing, especially with your example at the end (although on a much smaller scale)
@@purehyacinth Yeah, Borderline would work as well. I have a mother that has that and she too has phases where she seems to enter an escapism phase and when you break it she reacts with extreme levels of anger & violence. DID was just my first comparison because he seemed to really "change personalities", but of course, doesn't have DID.
(irony extra fact; I just realised that the guy that warns you about Eddie - Dennis - actually has DID. Meaning the theme of "switching" personalities is a theme.)
One of my favorite characters! Such a terrifying game that actually has good character development.
Ikr, the antagonists of these series are truly amazing!
Dude same. I *really* don’t like saying “pleasure” or “love” or “kissing” or anything intimate. It feels weird to say it. Uncomfortable weird. It’s enough to just think it or imply it.
Same lmao
Ayo *What*
Haha lol
When I have to say something involving the theme of smexy times, I usually just say the naughties or try and make it funny. I don’t know if people get what I mean, but they probably should through context.
I’m just gonna say it out front: *eddie is a yandere with a short attention span*
I’m guessing you’re twelve and in that little phase
@@darkx6869 what?
@@Justaspacequeen your in that phase where you like yanderes and tsudere or something lol
@@darkx6869 you mean anime? And no I’m 12
@@Justaspacequeen yeah and I don’t care
If edie gluskin's romance is 365 days & 50 shades but the 'girl' isnt disillusioned
Idk what 365 days is, but from what I’ve heard about 50 shades of grey, the guy is basically a r*pist. So yeah.
This whole video basically confirmed all I had assumed. Whistleblower is my favorite in the Outlast series and I enjoyed reading and learning about the characters, especially Eddie!
I just finished replaying Whistleblower. Man that soundtrack when Eddie is chasing you. One of the most nerve racking, teeth gritting moments I’ve had experienced playing a video game. Well done by Red Barrels. That moment when Waylon is inside that locker, wow! You just can’t unsee all that!
Oh this'll be damn interesting. Nice. Dude definitely spooked me bad
I never played the game I just watched a few videos on UA-cam but it's so creepy... Even more now I've learned the sad story behind his madness... I've discovered your chanel recently and watched some videos about resident evil. Nice channel 😁( sorry for my bad english)
thank you so much! :D
Eddie at the end of every sentence: *becomes vacuum*
I believe Gluskin is based on Ed Gein. A serial killer and grave robber from Wisconsin that murdered a woman in 1957. The bodies in the gym are a reference to the body of his last victim, who was found hanging upside down naked and gutted without her head. Gluskin’s face also resembles Gein’s.
by far the most disturbing character in gaming history
Agreed!
He's up there alright
Eddie Gluskin actually appears in the prologue for whistleblower. He actually begs for your help and I think that's why he liked Waylon the most because he talked to him before they experimented on him
Well he is the first patient you come across in the game, as he bangs on the window pleading for your help
seems like this guy is the embodiment of the quote "if there's a hole there's a way"
if u know where the reference came from
Oh nooo you've sucked me into the Eddie wormhole again I hate you so much haha
Shaggy?
@@hannahmashburn7101 modd shaggy in the game
I know a lot of female fans love Eddie. I don't because he's crazy but I guess I'm a fan which is odd. My channel is based on him and Eddie's voice actor Graham Cuthbertson. It's good to see that there's still content of Eddie Gluskin being made that isn't from me..lol. 😆
Heyy I thought you stopped making videos
@@Jay-mx6sd I did for a while because I didn't know how the UA-cam COPPA act was going to work but I came back last year.
lol fr
As a guy I gotta say Eddie Gluskin scared the fuck outta me way more than Trager or Chris ever did. Just the thought of what he does to his victims before actually killing them is far worse than the quick death Chris offers
I had this theory and have posted a few times and that is other than the abuse he experienced as a child, Eddie may actually had a romantic consenting relationship but due to having little to no form of healthy relationships before or could based off of, he may not really know how to handle what comes with it. He loved the affection, attention, the care, the kindness, be treated as someone who's significant, the experiences he enjoyed, and the person he had that with. She was his pearl and thought she was only his girl. I think it's very likely that he may ended up becoming too clingy, obsessed and maybe manipulative. It's also likely that he may have met a girl who also had to survive in a broken home too so they rarely knew how to react to feuds or issues other than fight, flight, or submit. Since Eddie was bigger, stronger, and more skilled in doing that I think his spouse may often have to submit to stop a fight. Their once loving bond grew toxic that they ended up doing and saying horrible things to each other and gradually meant what they say and did. Despite that, Eddie didn't want to let go of his spouse since despite the shitty things they did to each other, he still had strong feelings and attachment to her, want to keep alive the dream of having a family with her, and he doesn't want to be lonely like he was for a long time (and intentionally was to not get as hurt as he was during his youth). She however found their relationship in the condition it was was not beneficial to either of them, and tried to run away. Feeling betrayed he killed her out of rage. When he regain a certain amount of awareness he was in denial that his spouse was dead and was instead asleep. Anger that she wouldn’t wake up. Sadness that she wasn’t likely to wake up. Tried to negotiate with a corpse. Then he accepted that he may need to find someone else to achieve having a family, which he failed numerous of times since he didn’t let go of his desperation, desire of his idealized woman, and the burning hatred he felt from a toxic relationship and hatred of rejection. Plus most of them died from what he did to them.
>dead corpse
As opposed to a living corpse?
Someone’s still talking about outlast?! Cheers! I can’t wait for the outlast trials. 💚
SAME
Same. It legit looks so good. I mean, we could already see the massive progress in outlast 2 but the outlast trials (or at least the trailer) had awesome graphics
@@SasukeUchihaOfTheSound i know right I feel like Trials is gonna be even more terrifying with the graphic improvement
Its gonna suck just like the second game
Y’know, Eddie’s past hits close to home in some ways and I really sympathize with him. Yeah, he’s a monster, but he didn’t HAVE to be. Monsters are born from monsters. He could have been a normal kid. And that’s what upsets me. He could have been normal if he had just been left alone when he was little. Just bugs me, I guess. Makes me feel like the way I cope isn’t as bad as his?😅
That was so ungodly creepy when you heard him singing that song without knowing exactly where he was
Eddie is one of my absolute favorite videogame characters ever. DARLING!
Nacho your editing skill are just so good
Thank you sir 🙏🤠
I think Eddie was obsessed with Waylon because he was the last person he saw before going into the engine... Waylon probably represents a more "sane" version of him that he misses. I found Eddie such an interesting character, because I've lived his childhood, and I think he was written really well. You're very correct - the betrayal theme is not about romantic love, it's deeper. It's the betrayal of a parent abusing you, which trust me is a hard thing to lay to rest.
Also, the fixation on classic depictions of romance? I think he watched a lot of those romantic movies as a child, and they became his escape from the abuse. Hence his entire rhetoric is kind of taken from a classic romance film. I think it's his way of self soothing.
the protagonist had everything family, woman, children, he was a good father
everything gluskin wanted, maybe thats the source of obsession
No he just wanted a wife, and as you can see there isn’t any girls at that place. And it’s stated he wants to work on people, men, that can take more pain and scream less. Even though it’s a fact women can take more pain than men in real life
@@darkx6869 Is that actually? Idk about that I thought males were stronger than females both in durability and strenght
(I have my notifications off so probably not gonna see ur answer but lol)
@@AE_15x women are more durable and men are stronger physically. Bcs of childbirth and whatnot women can take large amounts of pain and can gauge the pain level more than men can.
I don't remember Eddie talking this much I was too busy trying to live
"heavier than you look" is the same thing richard trager said when he picked up Miles Upshur
God just hearing the saw get louder and louder is just nerve racking considering what hes doing with it 6:27
Gluskin is definetley one
Of my favorite characters
i wish we could see more
Of him, but hes dead.
I wonder how eddie would have reacted had he come across someone who also went through something like he had as a child.
I think he’d have not cared. He’s far gone in the head.
So I watch a ton of murder mysteries and true crime stuff but the writing and narration Nacho did on this just got to me.
Side note: For some reason I found the bleed less quote hilarious. The delivery is just perfect.
Hm, I thought you would show him at the start of the game. I played a long time ago. But as far as I remember he used to be pretty normal at the start. But then he snapped.
No he was always fucked up, in the files it was explained that he would pretend he didn't know what markoff researchers were talking about whenever they brought up his childhood and would lash out if they presented him with pictures of his father or uncle. He would basically pretend he was en entirely different person, I think he was brought to the asylum because he murdered a bunch of women too. The only difference is that he didn't have any facial disfigurements in the beginning
@@dlr_rosa254 too bad that I forgot whole story. Maybe it's time to replay
@@effieli7230 Try not to get killed by the groom then XD
Eddie is the reason I never replayed Whistleblower. He's freaky as hell.
he is the reason why i have played whistleblower 8 times
@@Ketjujeesus I'm sorry 😑😑
@@Ketjujeesus same here!! (Or maybe more than 8 times, in my case)
Eddie Gluskin- El Hopaness Romtic.
lol
I have Outlast: Whistleblower but have not played it. My blood just goes cold every time I listen to his voice and watch that scene
This is realistic cause i had a friend who was inlove and was always paranoid over his gf....love is dangerous to the mind if you are not ready for it...by the way can we appreciate for a second the voice acting cause that transition from...calm..to angry to scared..understanding every 10 seconds is nuts...you can get how gluskin feels in every sutiation by his reactions
He's also seen at the very beginning of the DLC. He's the one that crashes into the window while Waylon is typing and says "You! I know you! You have to help me...." before being stuck in the Morphogenic Engine.
Me: mmmm kewl video my mentality ill brain: He’s kinda hot tho- ME: EXCUSE ME?!
But like I know how you feel 😩 if my man doesn't pursue me like Eddie I don't want him
😬😬😬
yep.
I'm Aromantic as fuck and I'm worried lol
I’m pretty sure Eddie likes Waylon because he’s a regular guy unlike the messed up variants. That and he recognizes Waylon from the intro, though I doubt he 100% remembers the context.
I enjoy these so much! Recently found this channel and don't regret it!
*Trager* : "Buddy!"
*Chris Walker* : "Little Pig!"
*Eddie* : "Darling!"
Meanwhile.....
*Martha* : "In the book of life of the Lamb slain.
By the crooked knife, Legion fettered every man chained.If any man hath an ear, he that leadeth in captivity. Bleeds false heaven's fear, beast seeds the cracked city.From seas heaven borne bear lion dragon leopard. Blasphemous seven horns of the mustard scion shepherd. Here is the patience, and the faith of the saints. The Lamb slain, foundation of the world. And pain found stained by the nation of the sword. Deceiveth them that dwell on the earth.
Bleed the wench before hell after birth.
And he make great wonders. Earthquakes flames thunder. Lake carrion, flayed woman, graves under Savior's wedding supper. He hath judged the great whore. Writ: Blood, Abram's worship. That ye may eat the flesh of kings, mighty men and horses. Fore death, hell and the rightous sing rightly there before him. Temple gate cuts the whore, bleed a price, the true ascend. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all amen. Do you hate him, God? Do you hate him God? Do you want him? Then you'll have him. Righteousness cannot pass in blood by loins, but the blood of your heart. The prophet don't need your help in finding the devil's whore and her rut-mate. Knoth questions even now other heretics at chapel. God'll guide him. You sinned when you denied the prophet your daughter. You sinned since to deny it. You know where the outsider is. His seed begat the enemy. God and the prophet both want his blood. God don't hear dead men. Be still. Take your penance. God loves you. God loves you. Catamite to the devil. Those who've rebelled against our God shall fall, their infants dashed to pieces all. Their women with child shall be ripped up... shall be ripped up... This way is forgiveness. I will be thy plague and thy ransom. Yes, Lord, for this is holy ground. Papa, I have sinned in failure. I will be ravenous in my penance. Pray with me.
Your work shall be rewarded.
How precious to me are Your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them. If I would count them, they are more than the sand. I awake, and am still with You. O, that you would slay the wicked, O Lord; O men of blood, depart from me. They speak against you with malicious intent. Your enemies take Your name in vain. Do I not hate those who hate You, O Lord? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You? I hate them with complete hatred; I count them my enemies.
Search me, O God, and know my heart; try me and know my thoughts.
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Yes, Lord, like a pig. Spreader of lies. The spiller of foul seed. God give me voice, God guide my hand. God give me voice, God guide my hand. Shut up! Shut your fucking trap! In the 1971 year of Christ, in the 11th month on the dawn of the twenty sixth day, I was a prisoner of the usuries, a cobbler in the land of Al-Barquq, the mountain of the apricot tree called Albuquerque. And I was weighed by false debts to the Pharisees of Zion, condemned to bear a mark of shame by those clothed in shame. That man shall die. Shame! And you will know that I serve the Lord! There will be peace in the valley. I am slaughter in the face of iniquities. You will be a tribute unto the Lord. You have forsaken him. The stray sheep must be corrected. You play the whore in my father's house. Your blood shall be the tokens of my virginity. But where, Lord? I Am hath sent me unto you. The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, and of Knoth. He will, Lord, even unto his death. And it shall be your glory. And what shall I say to him? From his fundament to his chops, Lord. And then the child. RAH! God loves you. Let him love you. ... A blade's baptism for the spider-eyed lamb. My hate made in secret, wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Made perfect for the rut mate to the devil's whore. Will you slay the wicked, Lord? Is it written already in your perfect book? Stop... stop laughing! Shut your filthy... shut your filthy mouth! Stop... laughing... stop laughing! Shut your filthy mouth! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up, shut up! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God give me voice, God guide my hand! God loves you."
Personally, the antagonists from the first game remain more iconic and much more cooler than the ones from the second game
Me : bruh
You’re not wrong at all, but I really enjoyed Marta. She just felt like a Resident Evil boss more than an Outlast boss
@@songbird6414 yeah hahhah I get it now, she does feel like a re boss
i couldn’t even complete outlast2, it is most definitely my least favorite. Outlast1 will always be my fav (until 3 comes out and we’ll see if it’s any good.
Man Marta 😂
DARLING! Thanks for watching
Please chris Walker next or dr Rick trager
CREDIT THE MUSICAN OF THE FIRST SONG AT THE START OF THE VIDEO I WOULD LOVE TO SOUPPORT THAT PERSON PLEASE! I LOVE THAT SONG SO MUCH!
AGAIN KEEPING THIS COMMENT UP HE DID CREDIT THE SITE THAT THE ARTIST IS IN GOING TO CHECK IT OUT NOW TO SEE IF I CAN SUPPOURT THE ARTIST DIRECTLY!
I CANT FIND THE SONG ON THE SITE HOPEFULLY HE UPDATES DIRECTLY TO THE SONG
@@TheeCapN Have you found the song?
@@janruperez694 no :( and the UA-camr won't do anything to help
I think a major factor in Eddie's disconnection with reality was not only the fact that he was abused, but this was at a young age and with a frequency that he thought it was normal, hence why he did it to others until he was captured.
I didn't get the chance to stop and think about the characters of the game. I just mostly run away from them and have nightmares about them. And yes they are still haunting me, and I am terrified everytime I see the name Outlast
Despite Gluskin being a psychopathic, creepy and disturbing guy, his story is actually very tragic.
"...And as always, stay single!"
(gentle tear rolling down my face) "I'm good at that"
Easily my favorite villain... So well written !!
he is romantic thats why he is your favorite villain xD
@@womboer9338 sucker for romance, what can I say..xD
I sucked that in outlast two they didn’t have characters like Gluskin and Traeger I mean I know they tried hard with the axe girl and the girl covered in mud (I’m sorry I can’t remember their names) but Traeger and Gluskin were terrifying and I remember watching those cut scenes and squirming because of how graphic it is.
I agree with you. For me the first games' antagonists were a little more memorable and terrifying. Btw the axe girl's name is Marta and the other is called Val (her gender is debatable..)
I appreciate you making these videos. I built my Twitch audience on this game when I started streaming in 2015, so I have a strong love with Outlast & Whistleblower. It is dope to finally see someone go in depth with the characters. Amazing content my friend.
Yet I still don't understand how many fangirls and some fanboys looked at him and said "Yep, he definitely would be a great pair for Waylon"
Because fans are weird.
I think when Eddie says he won't let anyone harm his children, not like... he may be talking about his mom. She may have known he was being abused and was too afraid to do anything about it since she was also a victim given the lines he says. He first went after women and now he sees the men he mutilates as women. So instead of just hating his father, he ends up resenting his mother as well or even more which is why he's so misogynistic. His hang up on being betrayed might also be because he felt betrayed by her. This actually happens a lot in situations like this where young children, especially young boys, are abused. Or maybe he thinks being misogynistic, probably like his father and uncle, makes him more of a real man.
"I've been a little ... vulgar. I know, and I want to say I'm sorry. I just... you know how a man gets when he wants to know a woman... "I promise I'll be a different man."
While I think your analysis on this part is generally correct, these particular lines come off to me as an attempt at emotional manipulation. Naturally, it's easy to think "yeah nobody is fooled into thinking he's actually sorry because he's clearly batshit", which yes, this is easy to see when we also see him try kill people. But it's eerily similar to the lines have come from IRL abusive spouses, especially with promises of "being a different man", which is common when physically abusive people know they were wrong for beating their spouse and thus make empty apologies and promises to relieve their conscience and/or keep the abused in the relationship.
Or maybe I'm just reading too much into this lol, but I think it's telling of how well Red Barrels wrote Eddie as an abusive "groom", because abusers are rarely ONLY physically abusive, but will manipulate you into having sympathy for them in, and that's how they keep you in that toxic relationship. (And it worked on players! I mean just look at the number of fanfic portraying the pairing as properly romantic)
OutLast needs a netfLix series about its characters origins. it wouLd be super dark
Mfw my name is also waylon and every time I hear you say it I get caught off guard for a second
Melody Rosie thank you!! ^^
Eddie is also the patient we see at the start of the whistle blower dlc that’s being put in the machine
Man what a nice guy
That whole thing about Eddie being a monster I don't know man sometimes even monsters deserve sympathy
Terrifying antagonist! All the skinned bodies hanging from the ceiling in the hall...and done in one night after the walrider was set free...how was that even possible! Hearing his voice in the dark talking to you calmly and clearly...so scary!! Him and Triger are my ultimate scary video game characters! Jack Baker comes in 3rd haha!
I like that people still make outlast videos also great video.
Lol, my bestie had a big crush on him. 😝
Can't judge, considering how most of my fictophile crushes are on crazy villains. 😌
He certainly has an interesting story; can't help but feel bad for Eddie, even though it's ultimately him versus the protag.
And he's so overwhelmingly dangerous, that I can't even conjure up any AU ideas of him finding actual love. At best, I can only imagine someone lamenting his tragic tale, after having to put him down for everyone's safety.
"I''ve been little vulgar" I think he's talking about unwraping him again and again?
I personally think he's talking about the way he approached Waylon (aggressively and "I WANT YOU TO HAVE MY BABY!" line) which could further prove he's very self-aware.
@@assiaelmabrouki5552 definitely that, and the "let me fill you up", which i think anyone will tell you isn't a great pick up line... he's definitely too self-aware about what a creep he is for my liking
@@mmanyhandss I thought the "Let me fill you up" line was about him getting married and becoming whole? Or was that supposed to be sexual?
@@yeahgirl11 I think it was meant to be taken both ways honestly, either ways it’s an atrocious thing to say off the bat
@@mmanyhandss He's really charming otherwise. But yeah, the guy is definitely moving waaay too fast with that pick up line lol
I always thought he grew up poor. The more you know.
Oh? Interested to know what made you think that! He very well could have...
@@nixace6030 I really don’t know what made me think that. Maybe because for me, I kinda grew up poor ( well cheap due to my mother) Each of my family members had to make their own clothing including me. Just made a sorta connection in my head “oh he sews and makes clothes he must have grown up broke” but I realize it must have been a hobby for most people.
@@mandydandy1170 ah interesting but I read somewhere (idk where anymore) that Eddie was unknowingly skilled with sewing, and he made himself his groom outfit and bride dress. That's kinda cute I think... but in a very twisted way lol.
@@assiaelmabrouki5552 lol he just woke up one day and was like “I’m gonna sew!!”
@@assiaelmabrouki5552 Haha it is cute that he knows how to sew. I'm sad that he's a psycho though lol
As a game that is heavily based on the characters psychology I was hoping this series intended to be a lot more like silent hill unfortunately it didn't get much better after the dlc for 1.
Eddie Gluskin, the true og fangirl.(sarcasm, for the records)
What boggles my kind is that there are so many pipes laying around and Waylon doesn't grab one to defend himself. I'd be swinging like Bryce Harper. 😅