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When you get what you want, it becomes pointless. Batman wants justice, but also a happy life, one gives him purpose, the other gives him desire. He knows that one is achievable and the other is impossible, yet he chooses the impossible so he can have purpose.
@Seb The ice man not really. Relationship goes back to Golden Age and the will they won't they is like Lois&Clark were til they allowed them to get married.
Because without that code he'd become a tyrant. DC Metal has a Batman that never had a code instead of several versions that got broken. That was a Batman that got a Green Lantern ring and immediately used it to kill his parents killer. The ring isn't supposed to be able to kill and a bloodthirsty Bruce Wayne overpowered it to kill people, becoming Dawnbreaker, the dark Lantern. And he had no problem killing Commissioner Gordon for telling him he was wrong. Without Batman's code, he'd become a monster and nothing is more dangerous in DC than a Batman that doesn't have his code.
Nah, he's no better than a criminal. The only thing that separates Batman from "them" is that he hasn't been caught. The distinction between a criminal and a vigilante doesn't apply under the eyes of the law. Even though he's praised for his deeds he's still commiting a crime. Batman even acknowledges this when he makes a deal with Jason in the comics that what they're doing isn't legal. That's also one of the great thing about him too. Batman is more realistic than metahuman supers and alien supers. The reason the code exist is because fundamentally he is insane.
@@michaelbanks1000 Wow, this comment is the reason for Batman's code. Batman cannot be allowed to kill, for the code is what keeps him from unleashing his imsanity. *the code is all that keeps the true monster at bay*
@@SnazzyjazzBrothat’s the tragedy of Batman’s character. He’s doing something that’s impossible that he KNOWS that he can’t 100% achieve or obtain and could most likely get himself killed in the process but he’s going to do it anyway because that’s the hero that Batman is!
@@tractorfeed7602 not it is not the reason is because DC needs Joker alive,in real life Joker would be forever in jail or dead already,but DC will never let their money maker die or stop
Mitchell Movie Productions Andrea was introduced in the 1993 batman phantasm movie. I’m looking at Selina in terms of her character since the beginning she has always been the love interest and to me she holds so much more weight and the only one besides talia al ghul.
And Bruce loves her too. They both deserve each other, but Bruce can’t stop being Batman. If he does, who will defend Gotham? That’s all that goes on his mind. Selina and Alfred are among the only two people that really get to him.
@@coletrain583 the thing that Bruce never accepts or realizes is that he has many people to defend Gotham, Nightwing had been his protege for multiple years, Damian has been specialized in fighting the toughest opponents from birth (and being with the titans he's become more accepting of a hero's code or atleast the baselines of it), batwoman, Batgirl, batwing, and if he's ever needed Alfred will always have contact. Batman doesn't want to do it, he can't accept it I don't know the exact reason why but that's all I know.
Everyone, who still accusing Bruce because of his "Code of Not to Kill". His Code is the only thing, that didn't let him went insane. His Code is the purpose of his life, because after he lost his parents, he didn't care about anyone anymore, even about Alfred. His Code is his greatest strength, that keeps him to focus, be smart, be strong, keep fighting and Get UP every time, he is down. AND most important - His Code is the only thing, that didn't turn him into a monster, that took his parents' lives. So at the end - you have an option: Accept and respect his Code, or just get out Time to think seriously about that... And about Selina - all she need is just some time to understand, why Bruce keeps doing that. When she does, she will return to him, because she trully cares about him.
im on catwomans side on this one, no way he would've saved riddler, he would of died trying and that fact he can't see that or just doesn't care would be a major deal breaker for me as well.
Batman is a man who will ignore his limits in order to save someone, in the Venom comic book he desperately tried moving a superman size boulder in order to save a little girl's life from drowning.
selina was right, the guy almost killed every single one of the members of his inner circle, killed his best friend, also almost made him kill the joker. remember the line once he said "I don't have to save you" so this last scene was totally a bummer. damn, for once I wanted to see batman happy. I love batman, watching reading every single content dc made for batman but I'm kinda sick of his antics.
"Compulsive behavior means that you're not quite sa-" "Whole." They missed a callback opportunity here. Imagine Selina quietly repeating that instead of her exposition. Thing is, when you strip away everything from Batman, you're not left with a child punishing the "bad men" who took away mommy and daddy, you're left with someone that DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO DIE. And it's compulsive, he cannot control it. The saddest thing is that this is the healthiest romantic relationship that he can actually have.
Earlier in the movie he told Selena that he thought she stole because she couldn't stop and if that was the case then in his eyes she wouldn't be whole because she couldn't stop. But for him, if someone can be saved he HAS to try. He can't stop.
Selina had indeed changed for the better, yet Bruce hadn't changed one bit. She was ready to give him EVERYTHING, and yet he wasn't ready to do the same. Someday, however, they can be together... someday, but not yet.
While i can understand Batman no killing code beliefs , i also don’t blame Catwoman killing Riddler/ Hush.He was a very dangerous and insane version of both characters, by surviving i don’t doubt he would have revealed to the world that Batman was Bruce Wayne or done a lot more damage to Batman’s friends and allies. Not to mention that IF Batman tried to save him , both of them would have both died in the explosion .At that time it seem like the only choice available.
I think sense riddler is insane and damaged Batman still thinks he can be saved Also in the comic he dose work out who Batman is but he dose not want to tell the world because 1. Like the joker he enjoys the game and 2. If he dose Batman will tell the league of assassins about him trying to kill Talia or something and be don’t want that
You don’t actually believe Batman doesn’t realize she saved his life? Batman is selfless. There’s really no life he holds below his own. If someone is in danger he will try to save them. Suicide mission or not. That’s who Batman is.
Have you read any of the comics or see any batman movies or even played games? In all of these things batman teaches one important lesson in life and that is we must not let our emotions overpower us. What was Bruce feeling when his parents were murdered? He felt like killing Joe Chill. But Bruce knew his code and didn’t let his emotions get the better of him. That’s what makes Batman the favourite hero of many. And not some fake shit like superman. And I’m sorry if I sound too salty or triggered. I just love batman so much.
Batman a true hero who lives up to his code and ppl in his universe just like the injustice universe want to call him a bad guy because he won't kill his villians.
So instead of seeing Bruce Wayne’s opposite he was killed off in order to subvert expectations with the original twist on both Tommy’s and Riddlers ends... Ok... “What time is it when an elephant sits on a fence” Really wish I could’ve seen that moment in animated form oh well.
It’s nuts, you can see how much more conditioned Batman is. Selena, someone with absolute amazing conditioning herself is huffing and puffing, yet Batman is totally fine
1:47 Plot twist, Bruce sticks a knife in her heart. "Selina... You know where I live... Someone tortures you for info and that's it for me... It was fun."
You know, I have always found this scene inspiring, surprisingly. Not his relationship skills, but his conviction and consistency towards his mindset of hope - changing the villains.
Batman really should realise sometimes how incredibly selfish he can be with his code. I don't want to ask him to behead the Joker and stick his head on a pike, but he almost just got himself killed to save some scumbag who tried to kill and destroy everything he ever cared for! If not for Selina he would've died trying, heck perhaps she would've also perished.
Selina needs to understand that it's the code that makes him who he's. Without the code forget Selina the whole freaking JL would be out to hunt him as he'd the most dangerous person to be alive. Honestly Selina wouldn't even be alive with how many times she crossed Bruce.
Terry McGinnis is the true Successor to Batman He put his life on the line for Gotham Countless times he even Tries to save Mr freeze from dying Terry is a good person Like what Bruce said it’s not Batman that makes him worth wild It’s The other way around Terry would never let someone die if he could save them
If comic version Batman meets this dummy, I will not be surprised that he will punch him in the face. In Hush comics, it's about Batman accepts his friend has gone, is impossible to save. In this movie, this Batman is all about saving the unsavable soul. In comics, Batman never blames Harvey Dent did what he has to do for saving his life. In this animated movie, Batman blames Selina did what she has to do for saving his life.
He accuses her of being a kleptomaniac, yet he himself has a deep obsession that he cannot change. And we know he can’t change it. Because we know the rest of his story.
as one of my favorite fictional character "batman" i can understand where your ideologies stand for it makes sense to some extent you are a gentle soul i dont think many ppl could commit this sort of work with their lives when they have nothing to gain from it but even though you lost loved one's to it you still didn't break you still clench to that hope . but Finally some one told him how insane he sounds , i mean to let psychopathic murderers walk away without any major consequences ? really batman ? i believe that sometimes you have to cross that line *for the greater good* ......
Batman is mentally ill people. No matter how many villains he beats, no matter how many lives he saves, no matter how much knowledge he gains, it will never be enough. That’s maybe why he refuses to kill. Because he’s just like the villains he sends to Arkam. The only difference is his morals. And his good guy attitude.
They were great in the whole movie this just breaks my hearth. They are meant to be together. Why can't they just get married? Why does DC feel the need to keep Batman single? Its getting boring to see him do this over and over and over again. I think it would be amazing and very interesting to see a married Bruce and how it would've affected the family. Selina's interaction with the other members of Batfam her meeting Damian. Maybe getting another cat?
I've been saying this for a few years now... Marvel owns the big screen, but DC owns the animated movies by a long shot. Can't wait to see more(excluding Batman Ninja). That being said, if they brought this batman story line to the big screen without diverting too much from this universe, I think they would give marvel a run for their money.
Selina should understand without his Code, he would have gone insane like red hood or punisher. There would have been no Robin or Alfred. He is survived by them and his Code. Well she should know that without his Code she would have been fucking killed by him. So goddamn respect the fact because of him you are alive.
I think she does understand. The problem is that she fears that his code is more important than his humanity. Selina was willing to give up her code and life of crime for him, she was angry because she thinks Bruce dosen’t love her enough and she loves him more than anything.
That's what makes him a wuss, he chooses to protect the bad people that's why so many innocent people die. He needs to change his code, kill the ones that are too dangerous to live. And killing the most dangerous ones isn't for honor, justice or vengeance, it's just another chore and I gotta say he's made real mess.
Ethan Peterson naw he’s a good person and won’t kill. If anything he should just hang up the cape and let Red Hood or some other person take up crime fighting. Batman killing destroys him as a symbol of hope. At that point Batman is better off not existing.
If Joker War ever gets adapted, I hope they use that line. There's a scene in the climax where that could be used but Idk if it'll ruin the powerful silence between Batman and Joker.
Dang I got really happy on how much they were about to live a perfect life think about it Batman and Selina are the parents Alfred is the grand father and nightwing , red hood , Red Robin, Damien and Batgirl are the brothers, sisters and cousins I pray that they would stay together and not end with them breaking up
Without a code I'm no better than them many people are ignoring this quote Batman is saying he is just as crazy as his enemies the only difference is that he had a code the only people i can think of on how batman really think are Alfred, nightwing and superman
Really upset with the damn story! I mean Hush won’t make an appearance anymore since it was actually the Riddler and since Thomas Elliot’s body was burned to crisp! Make what a disappointment
I’ve always respected Batman’s code since 2004. That’s what I love about him. His full character of this code is further stated in the Injustice series. There was one thing that I found unacceptable. He refuses to kill people with his bare hands, that I respect. The Joker was finally going to die for his crimes and was sentenced to lethal injection as a death penalty. Batman took measures to stop them from injecting Joker and just let him be locked up instead. The Joker’s evil would finally stop and at least the death of the Joker was done by the law and not by Batman’s hands. I always side on Batman’s don’t kill rule for years but the lethal injection part was just unacceptable.
Plus, DC's newest bigwigs have made it abundantly clear that the heroes are there for only one purpose and that's to save people and not show that they're actually human.
@@raulmirut6519 His code is the only thing that makes him away from being a lunatic when he became batman who laughs he mutilated and killed 7 billion people through torment and made sick children his robins and murdering his adopted children and niece also manipulating other evil batmen and creating a multiverse destruction team....... Also Killing the justice league and making superman kill his parents due to kryptonite...... Do you want that instead
@Mohd Amerul Aidil it was a adaptation. An adaptation is taking something and slightly changing it to make something new. They took a lot of the story lines from the original but they made it new.
@Darth Pancake Studios I respect your opinion but I disagree with it. I think having Thomas be Bruce's actual friend is interesting cuz you never really see Bruce deal with the death of a friend.having the Riddler Bahia shows more development for that character.
@Darth Pancake Studios Thomas's death had a purpose in the movie. It allowed him to have that moment at the cemetery and open up with Catwoman. And those weren't deaths of friends those were deaths of his protegerse alfar is his father figure so they weren't as the same as friends. Also they were more connected to Batman where is we've never seen Bruce as the person have a loss of a friend. I know it sounds confusing but hopefully you get what I mean LOL
Honestly though I’m glad they broke up. Even in the comics, when they get married it just doesn’t work for them both as a couple. They’re lovers, they aren’t meant to be anything more. Batman’s morals are too risky for everyone who gets involved with him, and even if Dick, Alfred, Barbara and co. Are ok with that, Catwoman sure as hell wouldn’t be. She’s a thief, a loner and she doesn’t submit to anyone. That’s why their “relationship” never works. Because as hot as a couple as they are, they aren’t meant for each other. And it’s not Selina’s style to play crime fighting partner. In the end, they’re both better as forbidden lovers than a married vigilante couple.
Remember a Batman free from his code, free from the rules that puts him in check. Is the most dangerous version of Batman to ever face the universe. To quote the Batman who Laughs "See it yet? I'm not him in a batsuit. I'm you. You. How you are supposed to be without the codes. Without the rules. Except one. BATMAN. ALWAYS. WINS."
This is a way better ending than the comic. In the comic they broke up just because Catwomen said "Hush" and batman thinks that shes trying to manipulate him but honestly i almost cried in this ending. I wanted to see them get together in the comic but there relationship is done much better in the movie.
Batman's character and personality has been done so much better in animation. This version I have come to like especially, second to Kevin Conroy's version. The Batman in these movies was given back his compassion again, he shows emotion, has an actual personality, he has even shown to be sassy, makes small jokes here and there, and has also smiled at times, he keeps good relationships with his allies, and has not once yet screwed anyone over just for the sake of the mission. This is why I also loved and miss the personality of Batman back in The Animated Series before he was changed to an emotionless robot who pushes everyone away from him and never learns from those mistakes. The Batman in this universe actually learns from his mistakes, he's a team player, and has come to be a better father figure for both Dick Grayson and Daiman.
Same im on catwomans side, no way he would've saved riddler, he would of died trying and that fact he can't see that and just doesn't care is the deal breaker.
It's all about the mission. It's always been about the mission. Batman can't afford any distractions because he only served one purpose. To protect as many people as he can and keep the Legacy going even after he's long dead.
I believe batmans no killing rule goes deeper than that, batman is aware of how skilled and dangerous he is. He knows that even he can be corrupted and become a danger to the entire world, the only thing possible preventing him from becoming that danger is to set limits for himself, by having his no killing rule he's put limits on himself as it makes him be more cautious and always preventing him from using his full portential, if he ever did kill someone he would continue to kill and never stop, he would possible becoming even more of a tyrant then regime superman from injustice Anyway, this is just my opinion
A boat should not sail on a single anchor, nor life on a single hope. - Seneca Batman should stop himself only because of the hope. He needs someone to stop him too. Cat woman could have been the best second anchor. And perhaps she will. People don’t change over night. Batman needs to reevaluate his losses. The loss of Selena.
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Batman so deserves a happy ending; but even if it was handed to him on a silver platter by Alfred, he wouldn't take it.
And that's what still pisses me off about his character. And I love Batman
@@nicname3147 the only thing that would ever make him stop is if he was forced to use a gun due to his body deteriorating, as seen in Batman Beyond
@@DarthDestructusTheSithLord Very true. But he still didn't get his happy ending with Selina
His code gets everyone killed
When you get what you want, it becomes pointless. Batman wants justice, but also a happy life, one gives him purpose, the other gives him desire. He knows that one is achievable and the other is impossible, yet he chooses the impossible so he can have purpose.
God forbid Batman ever has a happy ending...
If Batman ever gets a happy ending, we don’t get a Batman.
@@thejordyoshi If he got a Happy Ending he would have retired as Batman.
Bob L-B he got a happy ending in the dark night rises
@@bubaa1218 Oh yeah. I forgot about that ending, but he mostly dosen't in other incarnations.
maybe its better this way. The women he stays with always dies or become a villain or both.
Catwoman: "Someday... But not today."
Justice League Dark: Apokolips War: Let me stop you right there.
@@Umakiang it is the same universe.
I honestly hated DAW
Didn’t Catwoman die in DAW? Along with Poison Ivy, Deadshot, and some others?
Rhyme Zenkai yeah everyone is dead. In this universe. Besides The Flash is unknown
Ouch
Catwoman finally realize it Batman is just as sick as them but in a good way to an extent.
That guy will beat your ass if he heard you say that. Or worse his son will.
The only thing that makes him different is the code
@@algordo1997 No doubt but it still changes nothing as far as Bruce is concern.
@@realityhits3022 And that's the problem.
Dors she even know what made him "sick" in the first place?
“If someone can be saved, I have to try”
Selina, you should have realized then he was talking about you
I think she did. She left because she realized that she couldn't save him.
Catwoman: "Someday... But not today."
...
Batman: "Someday."
More than 15 years later...
Us: "WELL... WE'RE STILL WAITING!!!"
@V B when?
@@lolgetrekt4672 The City of Bane comic storyline I think
Earth 2 baby, earth 2
Ironluke 2001 She pregnant
@Seb The ice man not really. Relationship goes back to Golden Age and the will they won't they is like Lois&Clark were til they allowed them to get married.
There will come a day for you both. Because the chemistry between you two...is undeniable.
undeniable....undeniably bad and always at the cost of Bruce's agency
@Anthony De Los Santos What the the hell are you talking about? If you can't see why this relationship never works long term I can't help you there
I agree, I ship them so bad 😁. In the comics they had a daughter together.
“Without a code I’m no better than them.”
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT YOUR ALREADY BETTER THAN THEM!?!?!? AND YOU’VE BEEN BETTER THAN THEM SINCE DAY ONE!
Because without that code he'd become a tyrant. DC Metal has a Batman that never had a code instead of several versions that got broken. That was a Batman that got a Green Lantern ring and immediately used it to kill his parents killer. The ring isn't supposed to be able to kill and a bloodthirsty Bruce Wayne overpowered it to kill people, becoming Dawnbreaker, the dark Lantern. And he had no problem killing Commissioner Gordon for telling him he was wrong.
Without Batman's code, he'd become a monster and nothing is more dangerous in DC than a Batman that doesn't have his code.
@@josephlankford5541 like Injustice Superman
Nah, he's no better than a criminal. The only thing that separates Batman from "them" is that he hasn't been caught. The distinction between a criminal and a vigilante doesn't apply under the eyes of the law. Even though he's praised for his deeds he's still commiting a crime. Batman even acknowledges this when he makes a deal with Jason in the comics that what they're doing isn't legal. That's also one of the great thing about him too. Batman is more realistic than metahuman supers and alien supers. The reason the code exist is because fundamentally he is insane.
@@michaelbanks1000 except not all crimes are on the same level. Can't really put what he does on the villains level
@@michaelbanks1000 Wow, this comment is the reason for Batman's code.
Batman cannot be allowed to kill, for the code is what keeps him from unleashing his imsanity.
*the code is all that keeps the true monster at bay*
“Batman isn’t about killing evil, it’s about redeeming it. Batman has an impossible task.”
Where's that quote from?
@@anthonydrew9925 hitop films
But why endure this line crusade? Fight a fight you just can't win.
If asked the bat would tell you "someone's got to stand up to all this sin"
@@SnazzyjazzBrothat’s the tragedy of Batman’s character. He’s doing something that’s impossible that he KNOWS that he can’t 100% achieve or obtain and could most likely get himself killed in the process but he’s going to do it anyway because that’s the hero that Batman is!
“If someone can be saved, I have to try” We need more people like Batman in the world
Matieksan ss With that mindset you’ll be dead faster then Jason Todd
Batman certainly wasn't like that in SUPERMAN RED SON at all!😣
@Matieksan ss Not exactly forgive them but at least try to figure out how they turned out the way they did so it can be prevented in the future
This is the same attitude that let's Joker keep escaping from jail and killing more people
@@tractorfeed7602 not it is not the reason is because DC needs Joker alive,in real life Joker would be forever in jail or dead already,but DC will never let their money maker die or stop
Selina always been wifey since the original
Forget Selina and Andrea. Wonder Woman was a much better match for Bruce.
barchetta575m : Oh hell no you are insane!🤣 Unless we can get Wonder Woman to be with Bruce and Selina to be with Clark?
Mitchell Movie Productions Andrea was introduced in the 1993 batman phantasm movie. I’m looking at Selina in terms of her character since the beginning she has always been the love interest and to me she holds so much more weight and the only one besides talia al ghul.
VenomousPanther11 😂😂😂
Mitchell Movie Productions out of all batmans love interest I’ve always been a fan of Selina.
I like this breakup better then her walking out on the wedding.
Dude, that hurts....
Oof
Damn 😥😥😥
not cool guys not cool at all
Accurate
...So Thomas Elliot is actually dead...son of a-
😂😂😂
Female Dog
@@ManHamAslume pussy
king of all nanaes oink oink
So Hush isnt Thomas and Riddler is dead?
Wth DC ?
Anna Beatriz Marques i would like to know an explanation for this twist
Gwendolyn Drummond the comics have it that way
Comics was wayyyy better
Just put his corpse in the Lazarus pit again
piplup2009 they both have be blown to ashes
Poor Selina, she really cares and loves Bruce
Whatever😒👎
And Bruce loves her too. They both deserve each other, but Bruce can’t stop being Batman. If he does, who will defend Gotham? That’s all that goes on his mind. Selina and Alfred are among the only two people that really get to him.
@@coletrain583 the thing that Bruce never accepts or realizes is that he has many people to defend Gotham, Nightwing had been his protege for multiple years, Damian has been specialized in fighting the toughest opponents from birth (and being with the titans he's become more accepting of a hero's code or atleast the baselines of it), batwoman, Batgirl, batwing, and if he's ever needed Alfred will always have contact. Batman doesn't want to do it, he can't accept it I don't know the exact reason why but that's all I know.
Everyone, who still accusing Bruce because of his "Code of Not to Kill".
His Code is the only thing, that didn't let him went insane.
His Code is the purpose of his life, because after he lost his parents, he didn't care about anyone anymore, even about Alfred.
His Code is his greatest strength, that keeps him to focus, be smart, be strong, keep fighting and Get UP every time, he is down.
AND most important - His Code is the only thing, that didn't turn him into a monster, that took his parents' lives.
So at the end - you have an option:
Accept and respect his Code, or just get out
Time to think seriously about that...
And about Selina - all she need is just some time to understand, why Bruce keeps doing that. When she does, she will return to him, because she trully cares about him.
I agree... a really good way to put it actually... 😊😊😊
His code cost more lives.
Stan156 How did they get back together after this in the original story?
Bruce should take up the Punisher' s code instead!
King Smiley it’s pretty much every hero code
im on catwomans side on this one, no way he would've saved riddler, he would of died trying and that fact he can't see that or just doesn't care would be a major deal breaker for me as well.
Hella like didn’t he almost die tryna save bat woman in bat blood like damn man draw a line in the sand already
@@leonardodiaz1059 right?!
I think sense riddler was insane he thinks he can still be saved
Batman is a man who will ignore his limits in order to save someone, in the Venom comic book he desperately tried moving a superman size boulder in order to save a little girl's life from drowning.
If this is alfred instead of catwoman he wouldve said the same opinion
selina was right, the guy almost killed every single one of the members of his inner circle, killed his best friend, also almost made him kill the joker. remember the line once he said "I don't have to save you" so this last scene was totally a bummer. damn, for once I wanted to see batman happy. I love batman, watching reading every single content dc made for batman but I'm kinda sick of his antics.
It’s his character. If he can save somebody, he tries. His code of not killing keeps him from ending up just like his rogues gallery.
Not every Batman is the same and not all writers for Batman are good
Bottom line is that Batman doesn't kill. That's what makes him different
@@chaosXP3RT fuck you
rgonzales1082 oh wow how peaceful
This scene made me tear up a bit. Seeing Batman this earnest in his efforts to still save a person hits the heartstrings.
Batman and Catwoman: Someday
Justice League Dark: Apokolips War: No, I don't think you will.
haha edgy blood and guts go splish splash everything sucks and nothing matters hahaha looooool
I didnt understand about that darkseid part pls can anyone tell me??
1:23 I could feel it... Bruce felt hurt by the fact that Selina was pissed off because of his code.
What ever😒👎
"Compulsive behavior means that you're not quite sa-"
"Whole."
They missed a callback opportunity here. Imagine Selina quietly repeating that instead of her exposition.
Thing is, when you strip away everything from Batman, you're not left with a child punishing the "bad men" who took away mommy and daddy, you're left with someone that DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO DIE. And it's compulsive, he cannot control it. The saddest thing is that this is the healthiest romantic relationship that he can actually have.
This is my favorite thing about Batman. I think this does a great job summarizing Batman's mentality
Earlier in the movie he told Selena that he thought she stole because she couldn't stop and if that was the case then in his eyes she wouldn't be whole because she couldn't stop. But for him, if someone can be saved he HAS to try. He can't stop.
I love how soft his voice is here
Selina had indeed changed for the better, yet Bruce hadn't changed one bit. She was ready to give him EVERYTHING, and yet he wasn't ready to do the same. Someday, however, they can be together... someday, but not yet.
While i can understand Batman no killing code beliefs , i also don’t blame Catwoman killing Riddler/ Hush.He was a very dangerous and insane version of both characters, by surviving i don’t doubt he would have revealed to the world that Batman was Bruce Wayne or done a lot more damage to Batman’s friends and allies. Not to mention that IF Batman tried to save him , both of them would have both died in the explosion .At that time it seem like the only choice available.
I think sense riddler is insane and damaged Batman still thinks he can be saved
Also in the comic he dose work out who Batman is but he dose not want to tell the world because 1. Like the joker he enjoys the game and 2. If he dose Batman will tell the league of assassins about him trying to kill Talia or something and be don’t want that
I love how she actually cares about Nightwing now lol
Catwoman "complete" batman, notice how Catwoman saves batman from his code that nearly killed him.The batman just too stupid to realize that.
You don’t actually believe Batman doesn’t realize she saved his life? Batman is selfless. There’s really no life he holds below his own. If someone is in danger he will try to save them. Suicide mission or not. That’s who Batman is.
Kim
I love that batman
You really don't understand batman at all do you?
Have you read any of the comics or see any batman movies or even played games? In all of these things batman teaches one important lesson in life and that is we must not let our emotions overpower us. What was Bruce feeling when his parents were murdered? He felt like killing Joe Chill. But Bruce knew his code and didn’t let his emotions get the better of him. That’s what makes Batman the favourite hero of many. And not some fake shit like superman.
And I’m sorry if I sound too salty or triggered. I just love batman so much.
You don't understand Batman at all 😂😂
"He didn't have to die"
Dude, we just watched you provoke Riddler into firing an RPG into traffic for a bag of money that was definitely insured.
Fans in 2019: Hope they'll be together again
Darkseid: Nope!
Looks like we're about to get a reverse snap...
Nightwing: Alfred, he did it!
Batman: I guess I didn't
I'm with Catwoman on this one, this whole batman code thing sounds good in the fictional world but in real life you do what Catwoman did
Exactly.
damm true
It’s interesting, people don’t want heroes. They want anti-heroes. You can see why tho, our world is too cynical for heroes to work.
Can't work for batman tho if he did the logical things all the time he would have killed so many.
Batman a true hero who lives up to his code and ppl in his universe just like the injustice universe want to call him a bad guy because he won't kill his villians.
I actually like that they made Riddler Hush instead of Thomas Elliot.
Me too he got threatning . But as riddler he was a joke
It sure did catch me off guard
The thing is, I liked the twist BUT I think that the Riddler could have used a bit more screen time for his little backstory with Elliot.
@@b1ackspid3r43 In a good way.
well no, it's the worst plot twist of all time, the plot twist of jim gordon as the villain in gotham by gaslight is million times better than this
If Batman crosses the do not kill line
Everyone is in trouble.
Batman didn’t have to die either
So instead of seeing Bruce Wayne’s opposite he was killed off in order to subvert expectations with the original twist on both Tommy’s and Riddlers ends...
Ok...
“What time is it when an elephant sits on a fence”
Really wish I could’ve seen that moment in animated form oh well.
It’s nuts, you can see how much more conditioned Batman is. Selena, someone with absolute amazing conditioning herself is huffing and puffing, yet Batman is totally fine
Selina and bruce: *breaks up*
Me: :( WHY DC?!?!?!? WHY DID U HAVE TO DO THIS TO ME
1:50 That OST is really good
It starts at 1.29 and it is heaven
After seeing hush its safe to say that the DC makes better cartoon movies than it does on the big screen this movie was a proven statement of that
1:47 Plot twist, Bruce sticks a knife in her heart. "Selina... You know where I live... Someone tortures you for info and that's it for me... It was fun."
Bruhh 😂🤣😭
No kill rule makes him, him
Thats what makes him a Batman
You know, I have always found this scene inspiring, surprisingly. Not his relationship skills, but his conviction and consistency towards his mindset of hope - changing the villains.
Can't blame Selina for this. Which woman gonna be happy if their man nearly sacrificed themselve to save the killer? I still respect Batman's code tho
I'm just glad that in the comics Batman really did change and after all these times Bruce and Selina are together.
Batman really should realise sometimes how incredibly selfish he can be with his code.
I don't want to ask him to behead the Joker and stick his head on a pike, but he almost just got himself killed to save some scumbag who tried to kill and destroy everything he ever cared for!
If not for Selina he would've died trying, heck perhaps she would've also perished.
the batman 2022 ending without motorcycles
Batman at the end: So you're saying there's a chance.. lol
Selina needs to understand that it's the code that makes him who he's. Without the code forget Selina the whole freaking JL would be out to hunt him as he'd the most dangerous person to be alive. Honestly Selina wouldn't even be alive with how many times she crossed Bruce.
Comic figures can't seem to realize that he's just another freak who does not kill.
@@bilalustun8959 exactly. That's also joker is all about. Like he knows Bats and him are not very different.
@@ray4493 It's funny. That reminds me of a joke.
If that was terry McGinnis I think he would’nt let riddler die
No he wouldn't as in many of the episodes he actually does go back and tries to save the criminals.
No, Terry doesn't kill either. He didn't kill Mad Stan and he refused to kill Blight.
He wouldn't push his loved ones away like Bruce at the very least.
Like Waller said, He has bruce's heart which means his codes also
Terry McGinnis is the true Successor to Batman He put his life on the line for Gotham Countless times he even Tries to save Mr freeze from dying Terry is a good person Like what Bruce said it’s not Batman that makes him worth wild It’s The other way around Terry would never let someone die if he could save them
I feel like no matter what happens they always came back together
Soooo no Jason Todd?
Kayster Let's hope that their is a another movie and jason todd is in it. It could be called
"Batman: Return of the Redhood"
@@markuzzepeda7040 No, I'm just saying maybe Warner Bros can make a new movie that has or involves Jason Todd
If comic version Batman meets this dummy, I will not be surprised that he will punch him in the face. In Hush comics, it's about Batman accepts his friend has gone, is impossible to save. In this movie, this Batman is all about saving the unsavable soul.
In comics, Batman never blames Harvey Dent did what he has to do for saving his life. In this animated movie, Batman blames Selina did what she has to do for saving his life.
He accuses her of being a kleptomaniac, yet he himself has a deep obsession that he cannot change. And we know he can’t change it. Because we know the rest of his story.
as one of my favorite fictional character "batman" i can understand where your ideologies stand for it makes sense to some extent you are a gentle soul
i dont think many ppl could commit this sort of work with their lives when they have nothing to gain from it but even though you lost loved one's to it you still didn't break you still clench to that hope .
but Finally some one told him how insane he sounds , i mean to let psychopathic murderers walk away without any major consequences ? really batman ?
i believe that sometimes you have to cross that line *for the greater good* ......
Batman is mentally ill people. No matter how many villains he beats, no matter how many lives he saves, no matter how much knowledge he gains, it will never be enough. That’s maybe why he refuses to kill. Because he’s just like the villains he sends to Arkam. The only difference is his morals. And his good guy attitude.
0:23 Selina's anime moment
How?
They were great in the whole movie this just breaks my hearth. They are meant to be together. Why can't they just get married? Why does DC feel the need to keep Batman single? Its getting boring to see him do this over and over and over again. I think it would be amazing and very interesting to see a married Bruce and how it would've affected the family. Selina's interaction with the other members of Batfam her meeting Damian. Maybe getting another cat?
To the best catwoman ever:Michelle Pfeifer.
This breakup was the worst part of the movie.
And still was a lot better, than it was in comics. In comics he even accused her (like what if she was also a part of Hush’s plan)
Poor Bruce, his life is nothing but lose and pain.
I've been saying this for a few years now... Marvel owns the big screen, but DC owns the animated movies by a long shot. Can't wait to see more(excluding Batman Ninja).
That being said, if they brought this batman story line to the big screen without diverting too much from this universe, I think they would give marvel a run for their money.
O really love this timeline they built in those movies can't wait for 2020 for the new Justice League Dark
Selina should understand without his Code, he would have gone insane like red hood or punisher. There would have been no Robin or Alfred. He is survived by them and his Code.
Well she should know that without his Code she would have been fucking killed by him. So goddamn respect the fact because of him you are alive.
I think she does understand. The problem is that she fears that his code is more important than his humanity. Selina was willing to give up her code and life of crime for him, she was angry because she thinks Bruce dosen’t love her enough and she loves him more than anything.
That's what makes him a wuss, he chooses to protect the bad people that's why so many innocent people die. He needs to change his code, kill the ones that are too dangerous to live.
And killing the most dangerous ones isn't for honor, justice or vengeance, it's just another chore and I gotta say he's made real mess.
Ethan Peterson naw he’s a good person and won’t kill. If anything he should just hang up the cape and let Red Hood or some other person take up crime fighting. Batman killing destroys him as a symbol of hope. At that point Batman is better off not existing.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 Because he's a wuss
"I won't kill you but I don't have to save you." The line was better for this situation
No it wasn’t. That line was a Nolan thing more than a Batman thing.
If Joker War ever gets adapted, I hope they use that line. There's a scene in the climax where that could be used but Idk if it'll ruin the powerful silence between Batman and Joker.
Dang I got really happy on how much they were about to live a perfect life think about it Batman and Selina are the parents Alfred is the grand father and nightwing , red hood , Red Robin, Damien and Batgirl are the brothers, sisters and cousins I pray that they would stay together and not end with them breaking up
Dude this hit me hard in the feels man
Without a code I'm no better than them many people are ignoring this quote Batman is saying he is just as crazy as his enemies the only difference is that he had a code the only people i can think of on how batman really think are Alfred, nightwing and superman
I swear it’s like people don’t know about Batman in the comics some versions he kills and becomes a villain
Really upset with the damn story! I mean Hush won’t make an appearance anymore since it was actually the Riddler and since Thomas Elliot’s body was burned to crisp! Make what a disappointment
The Riddler won't make another appearance either
be grateful this is even a movie they can’t make the movie exactly how you want it especially since its animated so it’s VERY HARD to make!
Alex B so it’s hard to make a movie based exactly like the comic? So how come Batman: the killing joke is exists then?
Turboman 2244 yes you idiot it doesn’t matter if it’s based of something most movies are based of something that doesn’t make it easier
Alex B just bcuz it isn’t easy doesn’t mean it’s impossible. This movie was still bad for not staying true to its source materials in the comics.
I’ve always respected Batman’s code since 2004. That’s what I love about him. His full character of this code is further stated in the Injustice series. There was one thing that I found unacceptable. He refuses to kill people with his bare hands, that I respect. The Joker was finally going to die for his crimes and was sentenced to lethal injection as a death penalty. Batman took measures to stop them from injecting Joker and just let him be locked up instead. The Joker’s evil would finally stop and at least the death of the Joker was done by the law and not by Batman’s hands. I always side on Batman’s don’t kill rule for years but the lethal injection part was just unacceptable.
Bronos X
That's also the reason why I love batman too
And also Spider-Man
She just saved you Bruce.
Three times in this movie.
Why can t you change?
Because he's Batman. It's an occupational hazard.
Plus, DC's newest bigwigs have made it abundantly clear that the heroes are there for only one purpose and that's to save people and not show that they're actually human.
Batman is insane
@@raulmirut6519 His code is the only thing that makes him away from being a lunatic when he became batman who laughs he mutilated and killed 7 billion people through torment and made sick children his robins and murdering his adopted children and niece also manipulating other evil batmen and creating a multiverse destruction team....... Also Killing the justice league and making superman kill his parents due to kryptonite...... Do you want that instead
Deep there batman is a evil lunatic lmfao.
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I think thats why he is the best hero
Catwoman:I'm so stupid being with him
Talia al ghul:SAME HERE
WHY CAN'T HE JUST HAVE A HAPPY ENDING?!?!
I'm glad they changed the ending if I wasn't going to make a predictable ending if you read the comics
@Mohd Amerul Aidil it was a adaptation. An adaptation is taking something and slightly changing it to make something new. They took a lot of the story lines from the original but they made it new.
@Mohd Amerul Aidil that is called rip off
@Darth Pancake Studios I respect your opinion but I disagree with it. I think having Thomas be Bruce's actual friend is interesting cuz you never really see Bruce deal with the death of a friend.having the Riddler Bahia shows more development for that character.
@Darth Pancake Studios Thomas's death had a purpose in the movie. It allowed him to have that moment at the cemetery and open up with Catwoman. And those weren't deaths of friends those were deaths of his protegerse alfar is his father figure so they weren't as the same as friends. Also they were more connected to Batman where is we've never seen Bruce as the person have a loss of a friend. I know it sounds confusing but hopefully you get what I mean LOL
@@vingrier87 Nah the movie sucks.
The only way for Batman to have a happy ending is for him to die and Bruce Wayne to finally live it will always be that forever
Like in dark Knight rises 2012
"Maybe some day"
Apokolips war: lol no
bruce wayne is the mask for batman, in a sense batman has duel personalities and the batman personality has taken over completely
Perhaps Batman’s more human than we noticed.
This was such a dumb reason to break them up. I swear if Batman didn’t have his code Selina would be afraid of him not attracted to him.
Then never read comic one its the most hilarious breakup i havbe ever seen it reminded me of martha from bvs
Honestly though I’m glad they broke up. Even in the comics, when they get married it just doesn’t work for them both as a couple. They’re lovers, they aren’t meant to be anything more. Batman’s morals are too risky for everyone who gets involved with him, and even if Dick, Alfred, Barbara and co. Are ok with that, Catwoman sure as hell wouldn’t be. She’s a thief, a loner and she doesn’t submit to anyone. That’s why their “relationship” never works. Because as hot as a couple as they are, they aren’t meant for each other. And it’s not Selina’s style to play crime fighting partner. In the end, they’re both better as forbidden lovers than a married vigilante couple.
Pascual Morales She changed, she is not a thief anymore. Read Batman Rebirth.
Remember a Batman free from his code, free from the rules that puts him in check. Is the most dangerous version of Batman to ever face the universe. To quote the Batman who Laughs "See it yet? I'm not him in a batsuit. I'm you. You. How you are supposed to be without the codes. Without the rules. Except one. BATMAN. ALWAYS. WINS."
「Æsir」
This is why I love batman
His no killing rule makes him sane and not a monster!
He's such a complicated character in my opinion
Cat woman: maybe someday
A year later dark side controls Batman
Everyone dies sooner or later can't stop a Batman
This is a way better ending than the comic. In the comic they broke up just because Catwomen said "Hush" and batman thinks that shes trying to manipulate him but honestly i almost cried in this ending. I wanted to see them get together in the comic but there relationship is done much better in the movie.
Batman's character and personality has been done so much better in animation. This version I have come to like especially, second to Kevin Conroy's version. The Batman in these movies was given back his compassion again, he shows emotion, has an actual personality, he has even shown to be sassy, makes small jokes here and there, and has also smiled at times, he keeps good relationships with his allies, and has not once yet screwed anyone over just for the sake of the mission.
This is why I also loved and miss the personality of Batman back in The Animated Series before he was changed to an emotionless robot who pushes everyone away from him and never learns from those mistakes. The Batman in this universe actually learns from his mistakes, he's a team player, and has come to be a better father figure for both Dick Grayson and Daiman.
And this is why Batman Should stay single forever.....
So saving a life is the deal breaker? Wtf.. These women
I hate to say it, but I'm on Selina's side here.
Same im on catwomans side, no way he would've saved riddler, he would of died trying and that fact he can't see that and just doesn't care is the deal breaker.
I think that batman truly love both of Catwoman and Talia al Ghul
And there it comes again: No Dating for the Batman.
It's all about the mission. It's always been about the mission. Batman can't afford any distractions because he only served one purpose. To protect as many people as he can and keep the Legacy going even after he's long dead.
If Batman kills he will be no better then the villains in terms we understand
Someday the cat and the bat will find happiness...someday they'll happy together again 🙏
It won't happen coz catwoman will be killed by darkseid's army
@@tamimet1056 heathen
@@tamimet1056 No she wasnt killed
She’ll be back she always comeback
I was really disappointed that there’s no Jason Todd in this movie
First thing the comic was nonsense it's overrated . Paul dini version (who wrote batman the animated series ) was way better
2:02 Batman: she'll be back
Guess we will never get the actual villain Hush...best thing there is are the Arkham games...
I believe batmans no killing rule goes deeper than that, batman is aware of how skilled and dangerous he is. He knows that even he can be corrupted and become a danger to the entire world, the only thing possible preventing him from becoming that danger is to set limits for himself, by having his no killing rule he's put limits on himself as it makes him be more cautious and always preventing him from using his full portential, if he ever did kill someone he would continue to kill and never stop, he would possible becoming even more of a tyrant then regime superman from injustice
Anyway, this is just my opinion
This was the one of the most dramatic batman movie ending ever, the thing the keep him sane, I the reason he is going to be alone.
This was way better than comic . Comic batman was lunatic thinking catwoman is under ivy control and even tried to hurt her .......LAME
@Comic Taku she'll be back
Uh no, in The comic batman had a legit reason to distrust Catwoman at The end
A boat should not sail on a single anchor, nor life on a single hope. - Seneca
Batman should stop himself only because of the hope. He needs someone to stop him too. Cat woman could have been the best second anchor. And perhaps she will. People don’t change over night. Batman needs to reevaluate his losses. The loss of Selena.
"someday you will"
yeah idk about that.
But i hope so...😤