It’s very helpful to have these pitching videos coming out from time to time. I’ve seen experienced hikers accustomed to other tents, struggle with the pitch of this one. Your directions are very clear. This is the easiest to pitch and most comfortable tent I’ve ever had. My search is over.
Thanks! It's a neat video but should have some more info on how to start from scratch. Basically you stake out the 4 points on the fly that correspond to the floor corners (rather than the fly corners). I'll probably make a new version this summer.
Love this tent! Rather than skinny pitch, I have just set it up in tight spaces with a sapling or small bush in the vestibule. The more you use it the more intuitive it becomes.
Thank you Dan, awesome video. I criticized the xmid pro 2 for having too large of a footprint compared to the Duplex. I returned it and bought the xmid 1 pro and took it on my JMT last year. It was awesome. My quilt was never touching the walls ( I am 6 ft tall), I could easily get in and out and the only concern I had was that the footprint was still pretty large for a few times. I still could make it work, but it was still tight. Now that you showed how to do the skinny pitch it is more than perfect, thank you for the video. I don‘t think there is a 1 person alternative on the market, so thank you Dan, what a great tent!
Hi, I really appreciate your videos, they’re very useful ! However, I would love even more to see videos in « real » situations : a skinny pitch where it is actually required (between trees or on a small flat portion of a slope) ; a storm pitch (or just how to pitch up properly from the beginning) with very strong wind ; etc. In my opinion, they would be even better for us users to fully grasp how to handle the tent.
Yes you are right about this. After explaining this I meant to show how to achieve it in a tight spot without doing a full pitch but I forgot to film that part. Essentially what you would do is stake out whatever corner stake points you are going to use. That would be at least the two opposite non-vestibule corners. Then you would pitch each vestibule corner however you prefer to do that. If it's collapsed, you'd add the trekking pole at that corner and likely need to measure it's length and then instead of the corner you'd stake out the guyline.
@@durstongear thank you for your answer ! Would you have any advice for pitching in strong wind ? Which side facing the wind, which corners to stake first, which pole to put in first, tips to stake the base more easily when everything is flying around, what not to do that could damage the tent… I definitely struggle in these situations so any advice would be much appreciated 😁
@@nightrock4713 There is a storm pitch section in the new main guide (link in description). But basically you would stake the base out at all four corners and get that square and tight and use good stakes. Then the tent is fortunately 'wind stable' during the pitch which means the first pole is stable right away (e.g. with or without the second one). I would put in the upwind pole first though and if it's crazy windy you could immediately deploy the peak guyline to additionally support it and then repeat at the other pole, plus add side panel guylines and extra stakes.
@@nightrock4713I think orienting it with the ridgeline parallel to the prevailing wind is probably best, but the tent has a pretty decent profile from every direction.
I may try that open half side one in the summer time when sleeping by the beach or doing like a coastal paths/trails. Love the flexibility of that tent and how easy/fast is to pitch.
Thanks for the video Dan! It would also be very helpful to see how to do the skinny pitch when you barely have room for the tent floor (I have the pro2), so you can’t stake out the perfect rectangle-you have to stake out the parellegram floor and set it up that way.
You are right about this. I meant to explain it from the full pitch, but then show how to achieve it in a tight spot without doing a full pitch (but I forgot to film that part). Essentially what you would do is stake out whatever corner stake points you are going to use. That would be at least the two opposite non-vestibule corners. Then you would pitch each vestibule corner however you prefer to do that. If it's collapsed, you'd add the trekking pole at that corner and likely need to measure it's length and then instead of the corner you'd stake out the guyline.
This is great Dan, what a tent! I'm going to be purchasing one soon as get money, would you consider seperating fly and inner for shipment to help us UK customers pay less in future ? 😬
I usually just pull the stakes so it's on the ground, and then grab the two peaks, fold it in half and then fold a few more times that same way so I can roll it up. There are several ways to do it though with various pros and cons (e.g. ways to keep it out of the dirt). I will plan to film another supplement that covers packing up the tent, but it's on the cusp of winter here in the Canadian Rockies so it'll probably have to be a spring time video.
Hey Dan! I was just wondering a few things about the X-Mid 2 (not the pro) before I consider purchasing one for my next trip to Philmont Scout Ranch out in New Mexico. 1: is it better to stuff or roll? I know the Dyneema tents are meant to be rolled but I'm not sure about the Sil-poly. Asking because my current tent (Nemo Dagger OSMO) is able to be stuffed just fine, which is something I prefer for take-down and packing speed. 2: Is the X-Mid 2 compatible with Black Diamond Trail Ergo poles? I don't want my mom to yell at me for spending even MORE money on new poles in addition to the tent, LOL
I would like to see a take down video. I still haven't come up with the best way to put it back into the stuff sack. Is your preferred method to roll? Is it different with inner attached?
I usually just pull the stakes so it's on the ground, and then grab the two peaks, fold it in half and then fold a few more times that same way so I can roll it up. There are several ways to do it though with various pros and cons (e.g. ways to keep it out of the dirt). I will plan to film another supplement that covers packing up the tent, but it's on the cusp of winter here in the Canadian Rockies so it'll probably have to be a spring time video.
There are a few ways to do it. Mostly tying to rocks or logs (hard surfaces) or burying deadman anchors (very soft surfaces). Search for "big rock, little rock method".
@durstongear Hi Dan, in an unrelated question, I have a coastal camp coming up and I'm wondering for planning wise what is your max recommended wind speed for the xmid 1p solid fully battened down with decent stakes used in your opinion?
With a good pitch and good stakes and guylines, 30 mph is fine, 40 mph is okay but getting noisy/hard to sleep and then the tents have survived verified 50-60 mph winds but that’s getting sketchy so we don’t recommend them for that.
It's no longer a rectangle, but it is removing vestibules that are about 25-30" deep at the two corners, so the remaining width is just the floor (52") with a little gap. Let's say 60" wide as a safe guess.
Has anyone tried the skinny pitch in decent winds? I worry about how it will perform with that extra loose flap… I wish there was an X-Mid skinny version lol This tent is the perfect tent for me, other than the size of the footprint can make finding campsites a bit tricky at times.
The skinny pitch will have some loose fabric usually so it isn't as good in high winds, but usually if the site is so confined that you have to do a skinny pitch, then it is also fairly sheltered from the winds. More open sites tend to be windy, but then you can do a regular pitch.
@@durstongear Fair point. Thanks for the response and insight, Dan! I’ve been loving my X-Mids! (I have 3 versions, plus an extra rain fly that I use as an emergency tarp for long day hikes lol) Also, I know you get a ton of requests, but you should make a 40L and 55L version of the Wapta 😉 lol That pack looks so slick and I love the durable bottom pocket, but it’s just too small for me unfortunately. Keep up the good work!
“In the chart here we see the breakdown of tropical deforestation by the types of agricultural production. Beef stands out immediately. The expansion of pasture land to raise cattle was responsible for 41% of tropical deforestation. That’s 2.1 million hectares every year - about half the size of the Netherlands. Most of this converted land came from Brazil; its expansion of beef production accounts for one-quarter (24%) of tropical deforestation. This also means that most (72%) deforestation in Brazil is driven by cattle ranching. Palm oil and soy often claim the headlines for their environmental impact. They drove 18% of deforestation. Soybeans are the most common oilseed in Latin America. While many people immediately think of food products such as tofu or soy milk, most of global soybean production is used as feed for livestock. Just 6% is used for direct human food.” ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation
I don’t understand the sense of the skinnny pitch. It seals to make sense to have skinny tent in skinny places. But to be able to make that skinny adjustement you need at first to be able to pitch the xmid in full size. But if you are able to pitch it in fullsize why should you than switch to a skinny pitch?? I don t know if you understand what i mean. But for me the skinny pitch is contradictory because of its fullsize requirement at first.
You are right, but it is a problem with the video moreso than the tent. In this video I show how to do a skinny pitch from a regular pitch so explain the concept and how it changes the shape, but in the wild you wouldn't actually pitch it in that order. However, you can do a skinny pitch without setting up a regular pitch first. I will do a better video for this in a few months. Basically you stake out the 4 spots around the fly that correspond to the FLOOR corners (not the fly corners). So that is staking 2 corners of the fly and 2 of the stake points near the middle of the ends. That defines the floor position. Then you can add the trekking poles and use guylines to anchor them. Then the loose vestibule corners of the fly can be tucked away using one of the options shown in this video.
It’s very helpful to have these pitching videos coming out from time to time. I’ve seen experienced hikers accustomed to other tents, struggle with the pitch of this one. Your directions are very clear. This is the easiest to pitch and most comfortable tent I’ve ever had. My search is over.
Thanks Jan! I'm glad you're finding the videos helpful.
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This is great, Dan! I've been meaning to watch this one. Thanks for putting this together!
Thanks! It's a neat video but should have some more info on how to start from scratch. Basically you stake out the 4 points on the fly that correspond to the floor corners (rather than the fly corners). I'll probably make a new version this summer.
@@durstongear I'm gonna have to play with this myself! Any excuse to play with my X-Mid!
Love this tent! Rather than skinny pitch, I have just set it up in tight spaces with a sapling or small bush in the vestibule. The more you use it the more intuitive it becomes.
Thank you Dan, awesome video. I criticized the xmid pro 2 for having too large of a footprint compared to the Duplex. I returned it and bought the xmid 1 pro and took it on my JMT last year. It was awesome. My quilt was never touching the walls ( I am 6 ft tall), I could easily get in and out and the only concern I had was that the footprint was still pretty large for a few times. I still could make it work, but it was still tight. Now that you showed how to do the skinny pitch it is more than perfect, thank you for the video. I don‘t think there is a 1 person alternative on the market, so thank you Dan, what a great tent!
Thanks. Glad the tent is working well and this video was helpful. Nice to hear you were able to hike the JMT.
- Dan
So great - I love the trick at 4m05s for securing the fly with the tail of the peak guyout through the vent!
God, I love this tent. Thanks, Dan.
Hi, I really appreciate your videos, they’re very useful ! However, I would love even more to see videos in « real » situations : a skinny pitch where it is actually required (between trees or on a small flat portion of a slope) ; a storm pitch (or just how to pitch up properly from the beginning) with very strong wind ; etc. In my opinion, they would be even better for us users to fully grasp how to handle the tent.
Yes you are right about this. After explaining this I meant to show how to achieve it in a tight spot without doing a full pitch but I forgot to film that part.
Essentially what you would do is stake out whatever corner stake points you are going to use. That would be at least the two opposite non-vestibule corners. Then you would pitch each vestibule corner however you prefer to do that. If it's collapsed, you'd add the trekking pole at that corner and likely need to measure it's length and then instead of the corner you'd stake out the guyline.
@@durstongear thank you for your answer ! Would you have any advice for pitching in strong wind ? Which side facing the wind, which corners to stake first, which pole to put in first, tips to stake the base more easily when everything is flying around, what not to do that could damage the tent… I definitely struggle in these situations so any advice would be much appreciated 😁
@@nightrock4713 There is a storm pitch section in the new main guide (link in description). But basically you would stake the base out at all four corners and get that square and tight and use good stakes. Then the tent is fortunately 'wind stable' during the pitch which means the first pole is stable right away (e.g. with or without the second one). I would put in the upwind pole first though and if it's crazy windy you could immediately deploy the peak guyline to additionally support it and then repeat at the other pole, plus add side panel guylines and extra stakes.
@@nightrock4713I think orienting it with the ridgeline parallel to the prevailing wind is probably best, but the tent has a pretty decent profile from every direction.
This tent is great but this is all a result of your thinking about this tent and your design ideas. Unreal levels of customization here .
Thanks for the kind words!
Thank you Dan for another well-done video! Your videos are very helpful.
Thanks!
I may try that open half side one in the summer time when sleeping by the beach or doing like a coastal paths/trails.
Love the flexibility of that tent and how easy/fast is to pitch.
Dan's the man!
Thanks :)
Woah! I can't wait to use Desert Mode @3:28 !!! So cool!!!
Thanks for the video Dan! It would also be very helpful to see how to do the skinny pitch when you barely have room for the tent floor (I have the pro2), so you can’t stake out the perfect rectangle-you have to stake out the parellegram floor and set it up that way.
You are right about this. I meant to explain it from the full pitch, but then show how to achieve it in a tight spot without doing a full pitch (but I forgot to film that part).
Essentially what you would do is stake out whatever corner stake points you are going to use. That would be at least the two opposite non-vestibule corners. Then you would pitch each vestibule corner however you prefer to do that. If it's collapsed, you'd add the trekking pole at that corner and likely need to measure it's length and then instead of the corner you'd stake out the guyline.
This is great Dan, what a tent! I'm going to be purchasing one soon as get money, would you consider seperating fly and inner for shipment to help us UK customers pay less in future ? 😬
Thanks. We actually did start offering the fly and inner separately recently. Check out our spare tent parts page.
- Dan
@@durstongearyour amazing 😂👊🏼 does the Xmid 2 solid inner fit the new grey looking version 2 xmid fly?
@@fernojake Yes the flys are interchangeable.
Another great video can you do a video of how to take down and pack the tent?
I usually just pull the stakes so it's on the ground, and then grab the two peaks, fold it in half and then fold a few more times that same way so I can roll it up. There are several ways to do it though with various pros and cons (e.g. ways to keep it out of the dirt). I will plan to film another supplement that covers packing up the tent, but it's on the cusp of winter here in the Canadian Rockies so it'll probably have to be a spring time video.
Wa hay welcome back if I'm late to the party buddy I'm still gonna say welcome back home boy I've missed you man much love Lancashire UK brother 😀👍❤
Hey Dan! I was just wondering a few things about the X-Mid 2 (not the pro) before I consider purchasing one for my next trip to Philmont Scout Ranch out in New Mexico.
1: is it better to stuff or roll? I know the Dyneema tents are meant to be rolled but I'm not sure about the Sil-poly. Asking because my current tent (Nemo Dagger OSMO) is able to be stuffed just fine, which is something I prefer for take-down and packing speed.
2: Is the X-Mid 2 compatible with Black Diamond Trail Ergo poles? I don't want my mom to yell at me for spending even MORE money on new poles in addition to the tent, LOL
For the silpoly it is fine to stuff or roll. Won't matter.
Yes those poles are compatible.
Cheers,
Dan
Looks like a great option Dan! Do you have any plans to sell the inners seperately? I would love the option to buy the solid for winter camping.
Yes we'll have the inners available separately in March 2024
This is awesome Info,, have a silly question the tent looks grey which models come in this color
This is the regular X-Mid. Our Solid and Pro series are different colors.
I would like to see a take down video. I still haven't come up with the best way to put it back into the stuff sack. Is your preferred method to roll? Is it different with inner attached?
I usually just pull the stakes so it's on the ground, and then grab the two peaks, fold it in half and then fold a few more times that same way so I can roll it up. There are several ways to do it though with various pros and cons (e.g. ways to keep it out of the dirt). I will plan to film another supplement that covers packing up the tent, but it's on the cusp of winter here in the Canadian Rockies so it'll probably have to be a spring time video.
How do I pitch this in terrain where I can’t stake it out
There are a few ways to do it. Mostly tying to rocks or logs (hard surfaces) or burying deadman anchors (very soft surfaces). Search for "big rock, little rock method".
@durstongear Hi Dan, in an unrelated question, I have a coastal camp coming up and I'm wondering for planning wise what is your max recommended wind speed for the xmid 1p solid fully battened down with decent stakes used in your opinion?
With a good pitch and good stakes and guylines, 30 mph is fine, 40 mph is okay but getting noisy/hard to sleep and then the tents have survived verified 50-60 mph winds but that’s getting sketchy so we don’t recommend them for that.
Nice one, really appreciate the extra videos and the rapid replies.
Cheers
are you familiar with what the dimensions are for the x-mid 1 and 2 when in the skinny pitch? as in the x-mid 2 goes from 100x83 to 100x?
It's no longer a rectangle, but it is removing vestibules that are about 25-30" deep at the two corners, so the remaining width is just the floor (52") with a little gap. Let's say 60" wide as a safe guess.
Wait wait wait 🙂 Is this new color coming to stay? I mean as a choice when buying? It looks great!
It looks pretty grey in the video but this is our normal sage green. It's a bit darker than the 2019-2021 sage.
I was gonna say - this is how my tent looks, I bought early 2022 in one of those insane drops with Kaviso
@@durstongear
Has anyone tried the skinny pitch in decent winds? I worry about how it will perform with that extra loose flap…
I wish there was an X-Mid skinny version lol This tent is the perfect tent for me, other than the size of the footprint can make finding campsites a bit tricky at times.
The skinny pitch will have some loose fabric usually so it isn't as good in high winds, but usually if the site is so confined that you have to do a skinny pitch, then it is also fairly sheltered from the winds. More open sites tend to be windy, but then you can do a regular pitch.
@@durstongear Fair point. Thanks for the response and insight, Dan! I’ve been loving my X-Mids! (I have 3 versions, plus an extra rain fly that I use as an emergency tarp for long day hikes lol)
Also, I know you get a ton of requests, but you should make a 40L and 55L version of the Wapta 😉 lol That pack looks so slick and I love the durable bottom pocket, but it’s just too small for me unfortunately.
Keep up the good work!
@@ManivanAdventures I would like to do a larger Wapta. Maybe for next year.
@@durstongear Looking forward to it! I’ll be one of the first to pick one up when you do!
Cheers! 🤙🏼
Do all of these methods work for the pro version as well?
Pretty much yes, but you can't roll it the corner to the peak because the floor attaches to the fly there.
All this talk about steaks. I have none. Please send some.
“In the chart here we see the breakdown of tropical deforestation by the types of agricultural production.
Beef stands out immediately. The expansion of pasture land to raise cattle was responsible for 41% of tropical deforestation. That’s 2.1 million hectares every year - about half the size of the Netherlands. Most of this converted land came from Brazil; its expansion of beef production accounts for one-quarter (24%) of tropical deforestation. This also means that most (72%) deforestation in Brazil is driven by cattle ranching.
Palm oil and soy often claim the headlines for their environmental impact. They drove 18% of deforestation. Soybeans are the most common oilseed in Latin America. While many people immediately think of food products such as tofu or soy milk, most of global soybean production is used as feed for livestock. Just 6% is used for direct human food.”
ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation
I don’t understand the sense of the skinnny pitch. It seals to make sense to have skinny tent in skinny places.
But to be able to make that skinny adjustement you need at first to be able to pitch the xmid in full size.
But if you are able to pitch it in fullsize why should you than switch to a skinny pitch??
I don t know if you understand what i mean. But for me the skinny pitch is contradictory because of its fullsize requirement at first.
You are right, but it is a problem with the video moreso than the tent.
In this video I show how to do a skinny pitch from a regular pitch so explain the concept and how it changes the shape, but in the wild you wouldn't actually pitch it in that order.
However, you can do a skinny pitch without setting up a regular pitch first. I will do a better video for this in a few months. Basically you stake out the 4 spots around the fly that correspond to the FLOOR corners (not the fly corners). So that is staking 2 corners of the fly and 2 of the stake points near the middle of the ends. That defines the floor position. Then you can add the trekking poles and use guylines to anchor them. Then the loose vestibule corners of the fly can be tucked away using one of the options shown in this video.
@@durstongear thanks a lot! I think i know how you mean that it could work right from the beginning with the skinny pitch. I will try a bit out
First? :)
Oh for a second I thought this was a version for my ex-girlfriend. Skinny Bitch Version, totally different thing.
😂