Introducing The New Specialized APP Which Will Be Replacing Mission Control
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Introducing The New Specialized APP Which Will Be Replacing Mission Control
Riders welcome back to Sam Bikes, where you know we only talk E-bikes, and today we are looking at the brand-new Specialized app, which will replace Mission Control soon. In this video, we are going to look at all the new features and wording in the Specialized app how it all works and why it's better than Mission Control.
I hope you like this video, and if you have any questions on the new Specialized app or any other related questions to electric mountain bikes, please put it in the comments because I love to help you Riders.
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00:00 Introducing The New Specialized APP Which Will Be Replacing Mission Control
01:27 How to download the new Specialized App and connect your Turbo ebike
03:08 Overview of all the features of the new Specialized App
03:59 How does the Tune Feature work in the new Specialized App
05:03 What does Motor Power mean in the Specialized App
06:00 What does Ease mean in the Specialized App
06:40 What does Shuttle mean in the Specialized App
07:38 What does responsiveness mean in the Specialized App
08:33 What is the best setting for my Specialized Turbo Levo in the Specialized App
09:56 How to use the Ride settings in the Specialized App
10:40 How does the smart control work in the new Specialized App
11:32 How does the System Lock work on my Levo or Kenevo ebike
13:40 How do I customise my displays on Mastermind using the Specialized app?
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Specialized crippled my Turbo Levo Expert when they got rid of Mission Control and came out with this one. The "Heart Rate" selection in Smart control was removed! No more heart rate zone training on the E-Bike, I guess it's back to the indoor trainer. Thanks Specialized!
It looks like the new App is missing one thing I really liked that Mission Control had. The ability to save/store multiple Tune settings. This was nice because you could have instant access to different presets for different trail systems or types of riding.
Great video, thanks. So they dropped the function where you set a target heart rate for your ride and the motor support would adjust automatically? That’s a pity, that was a great feature
Thanks for the info!
My Specialized Vado 4 will arrive in a few days, until then. I'll watch any video that gives me as much info as possible. Your video certainly did that.
Cheers Sam , your video is really helpful. I got my levo a couple of weeks ago.
I’ve been playing with the tune function and what a difference that has made to how the bike performs.
Absolutely brilliant function.
Thanks Ian for the kind words this video was very involved to make to really try and explain it clearly in glad it helped! Yep the biggest point of difference for Specialized e-bikes is the app
Nice video Sam! I’ve been using the new app for many months now and pretty much just left it all on default and never thought about tuning anything until now that I’ve watched your video. I’m not big on reading instructions… thanks for the clear explanations!
Thanks mate I really appreciate the comment this was really hard to explain it clearly as I never really understood it either for a long time
Are there instructions from Specialized?
So thankful for this video because I had no idea what it is capable of.
Thanks for the thorough explanation of the app and some of the bike features. I didn't get any kind of briefing when I purchased my Turbo Vado 4.
Been using this ' new app' for quite a few months now and myself and my mates agree the old app is waaaay better, but why you ask??? Well the new app seems to be quite problematic to pair with the bike, it isn't recording my rides properly, what happened to jump count? Long story short we all reverted back to the old app until they delete it I guess.
Thanks for the explanation of the features Sam, great work.
Thanks for the comment mate, from what I have been told the new App is not 100% finished yet but will be very soon so don't give up on it yet
Great job of explaining this app!!! Cheers
Thanks Brad
Great video Sam! Would be nice if stealth mode was accessable without going into the app though, maybe a single press of the on/off button when the bike is on and long hold to turn the bike off?
Great idea Brian
Many thanks for this, all new and works well I have a Levo 2021 thought it would not work but is a dream.
Not a problem Garry glad your enjoying t it
Great content and explaining how to use the app. I love the app and use it all the time!!
Thanks David
Great review of the new App. I have already tried it a few times but expected some flaws every now and then, that's why I still use the MC and Ride Apps for now.
Awesome video, well explained, downloading the app now 😎👍👍👍
Thanks for the awesome video! I was curious to see if the new App would work with my old 2017 Turbo Levo Fat Bike. It seems like it does! (Although I haven't taken the bike out to test it)
Sam. Thank you for your excellent review of the new Specialized app. I have been using the new Specialized app instead of Mission Control for over three months on my 2023 Levo SL Gen 2 at this time. To extend the distances and climbing of my rides on this mid-powered e-bike, I typically use base settings of Eco 30/30, Trail 40/60 and Turbo 60/80 for my riding at the local bike park and in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of the western US. However, when I want a 100/100 power setting, I use the MicroTune function which is easily accessible while riding via the Handlebar Remote buttons. Going to MicroTune only involves a long press on the (+) button and adjusting the tuning via the (+) and (-) buttons. Also wish that Specialized would have included the crash reporting features of their Ride app within the new Specialized app to eliminate the redundancy between these two apps.
Thanks for the kind words on the video this means a lot! That a good call on the Micro Tune to get the full 💯. I’ll let them know about crash report as it’s a good point
Nice one! Other manufacturers should do similar videos.
Glad you liked it and I totally agree...
As a beta tester for the new Specialized app, I believe that you 'nailed it' for 6 months ago. Would be nice to see you do another video that just targets your power settings in the new Specialized app for the new 2023 Levo SL.
This was a great walk through Sam. Very useful. I have saved it for future reference.
I only use about 5% of its functionality if I am totally honest. But nice to know it’s there if I ever want to get geeky about stuff.
As a couple of others have noted, the loss of the jump stats feature is strange. Would be good to know if it is going to be available again??
I have certainly used the 80% battery charge limit as a precautionary thing. I rarely ever use more than 60-70% of the battery, so anything that helps battery health seems like a good thing.
The auto lock feature is also a good addition, though it won’t stop the steal and strip-for-parts b@st@rds.
But…. What is needed is a much better/louder alarm built into the bike. The current alarm is more like an annoying hearing aid squealing on the other side of the road. It’s not going to deter anyone imho. It needs a sound/alarm that makes people soil themselves.
Cheers. Andrew
Hey Andrew thanks for the kind words... this video took sooooooo long so glad you found it useful. Have a play with Tunning your bike its fun and interesting and a massive point of difference for the Turbo ebikes.
Excellent video! I wonder how many of those features wiil work on my Turbo Vado 3.0 Gen 1. Guess I'll have to explore and find out.
Thanks 🙏 I’m guessing a lot of them give it ago and let me know
I don't have the system lock or the security feature option on my app.
Gracias bro. Hoy probé por primera vez mi creo sl carbon 2 y es un avión. Creo que usaré más el parámetro UNIVERSAL y el otro en caso de batería bajando. Uffff es lo máximo. Gracias
Really excellent explanation Sam. I’ll be sharing with mates.
Interesting that you mentioned auto lock if the phone is away from the bike. And a way to keep Verdone that if the phone battery fails. (This app does seem to drain phone battery). Where would we find info about that please.
And doesn’t it kinda negate theft protection.
Like others I’d like to save multiple custom setups for different situations - fit now I’m doing that by taking screenshots. Rider care told me that night come eventually. It was pretty useful in the red app I found.
Thanks cobber.
Thanks rider! Maybe send me a instagram massage and we can chat there as I’m not 100% sure what your asking
Hmmm. Will the old app get replaced as a matter of course? Will I have to use the new one.... ? Like some other commenters I'm only likely to use 10 - 20% of the new one tbh... I gave the new one a shot but binned it.
But I will say, Sam, that was a top job explaining all the features of the new app. Nice one!
Thanks Sam! You may have mentioned it but dont bother looking for the System Lock / Security if you have the standard TCU (Not the Master Mind TCU)
good point!
Yup found that out too… cmon Specialized sort it out!
Great video - when I connect my Tero to it the System Lock says 'update your bike to use the System Lock'. Is this a retailer software upgrade, a user upgrade or a way of saying the bike does not support System Lock. Mission Control has a lock which worked fine so should I just stick with Mission Control? Also I'm not seeing the dials under the graph..... is this a bike limitation?
Great video Sam I thought I may have seen on new app where you can set the altitude to align with phone. But cannot find it now. Does this function exist? Chris
Awesome job Sam, very well explained and interesting content. Your channel doesn't stop improving, Congrats mate😊
Thanks mate really appreciate your feedback from the legend that is The Punisher!
After recent update, System lock is greyed out. "update your bike to use the System Lock" with a non-functional refresh button appears. Not a great experience. Could you imagine being 20 miles into a ride and stopped for a break only to have a phone app update disabling the ability to unlock?
Great review as all ways , but I’m so used to the old one and all my pre sets stored depending on how I’m feeling and where I’m riding , when are they stopping the old Mission Control ?
Thank you for your feedback! It's understandable that change can be difficult, especially when you have presets stored and are used to the old Mission Control. I think they will stop supporting Mission Control early next year
Thanks! I hope that one day the Specialized app will work on the Apple Watch so that I can unlock my bike with my watch.
I like saving different setups on the old app so that I can choose my settings based on the type of ride and who I am riding with. Like when I ride with my wife who is slow, I just load my program for low levels of support so we are more evenly matched. Do I only get the three different tuning programs now "Universal, battery and racing" ? ALso How do you save your changes?
Hey Sam, I really appreciate the video on the new Specialized app! QQ: Will this app work with the first gen Levo SL (aka 2020 model)?
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you found the video helpful. As for your question, yes, the new Specialized app is compatible with the first gen Levo SL but any feature that are relaxed to the mastermind you won't get.
Love my Levo, and the new app is amazing 👍🏾
thanks for sharing rider!
Thank you Sam.🙏😉👍
My pleasure!
Amazing thank you
Our pleasure!
Sam, thanks for the vid. on the new app is there a way to add new "pre-sets" or are we stuck with just the 3 ? and is there a way to change the names of the pre-sets per chance ?
Good question let me ask!
Great walkthrough of the app and tuning features. The app really was one of the selling points to me. One major disappointment that I have with the new version is that there doesn't seem to be a way to export heart rate data to Strava. You have to pair via the hardware on the bike, but you cannot export the HR data from the app. It doesn't even seem like the app acknowledges the HR information at all.
I cannot find the heart rate connect option on the app either, seems a bit strange to have all this data but no option for heart rate!
Hi Sam.
What coil shock do you have in your levo?
Do you have any problem with Fox x2 shock?
Thanks!
I was running the ext but I’m back the x2 yes I did have some problems with the 22 x2 but I’m not on the 24 now and it’s perfect
Thank you.
Does this work with the original sl? I use mission control now.
Thanks Sam good job as always. My gen 3 Levo 2022 alloy comp doesn’t haVe mastermind. Is that why my screen shows bike status in the top right of the screen instead of the lock access? Build is 1.8.0 954 cheers.
Hey mate that is proably correct but without seeing it I can't be sure
@@SamsBikes sadly being one of the (majority non S Works) Specialized paupers… my budget only got me to the Alloy comp last year no Mastermind but this year it’s included 🤷🏼♂️. Cmon Specialized look after the LED paupers 🤣
When I get my turbo levo only one I'll put on low end is eco if I know my battery is low as a get home setting but trail I'll have on about 60 out of 100 and turbo I'm definitely putting on 100/100 at max possible output. Probably use trail unless I'm hill climbing
Sam, you should look into why specialized removed the JUMP stat’s which was in the original Mission Control app
That’s true I’ll check it out!
I can´t find the motor and battery temperature in the new app?
Hello. I have two bikes. In one of them, after switching on, the trial driving mode appears, and in the other, Eco. How to change it so that the Eco driving mode appears after switching on without switching it on the lever?
This new rev app will work with gen1?
Missing the auto start/stop from mission control. Hasn't this been out for about 6 months, I remember it was on one of replacement bikes... I am on #3 now...started out with an 22/11 bike, then got a Levo Comp, then got a 22/01 bike, so I am going backward with their support.
And i thought i bought just a bike sam lol❤
Does it support getting/importing heartrate from Apple Watch? I see in 15:10 that it can export rides to Apple Health but can it link to Apple Watch during the ride?
Hey mate I’m not sure Try and add it as a heart rate monitor and let me know it should work
Data. Like day-ta. Not like dar-ta 😂 sorry Sam great video as always 😊
Does it keep your phone open like Mission Control, no its more info but you need to set your phone up before you ride or the phone locks out and you loose ride information its a glitch that needs sorting out
My Levo is delimited with Levociraptor and I use the Blevo app (way better) and never use Mission Control or accept any updates. 5,000 miles later, still cruising strong.
I have downloaded the app. When I go to tune, I don’t have the graph to make my own settings. I also don’t have my total miles.my battery charges don’t show up either. I have turned my phone off and deleted the app and reinstalled it but nothing has worked
It is frustrating not being able to tune when not connected to the bike
I am a bit confused about shuttle mode. Is that it's own separate mode like eco, trail and turbo? or is shuttle a value that's applied like power and ease? If so, how does shuttle differ from power and ease?
one other thing, why wouldn't they have that joystick control where you can set the distance or the duration of the ride in the tune settings page? that directly affects the tune of the bike.
Hey mate thanks for the kind words, my best advice is to play with the app for a few days then go back and watch the video again it should make more sense it does take some time to understand it all
Thanks for the helpful and informative vid. I still struggle with understanding the shuttle mode, vs responsiveness. To me, I’d think shuttle would only be for doing shuttle runs, but maybe I’m just dense and missing something?
Shuttle mode gives you 100% power and kick in will full power immediately. As Sam said, if you want to ease off that initial kick of power in the case of not wanting to spin the rear wheel or wheelie on a steep climb start, you can dial back the responsiveness to make the motor transition smoother.
@streddaz thanks mate
Any chance they will work with apple heart rate like Strava.
The TCU ( the on, off switch ) has a number on the side of it that has to be plugged into the app for it to connect.. Unscrew the TCU and look on the side for the number !
This app has still someway to go. It's looking like a good replacement for MC but after using the new app and discussing with Specialized rider Support I have switched back to Mission Control until a bit more work has been done. I however have kept the new app on the phone.
Sam How do i get my Specialized ANGI down loaded onto the new app
I CANNOT get it to pair up! The MC gives me a code but it FAILS every time on my phone. WHAT am i doing wrong???
Get the number on the bottom of the TCU and plug that into the app.
I tried this not long ago and feel Mission Control is a lot cleaner and easier to use. Not a fan.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's always interesting to hear different perspectives on software usability.
Sam,
Is there a way to see the range extender battery details? I just saw a total power listed and couldn’t view number of charges or details of range extender battery?
Sorry mate I don’t think so!
Thanks for video. Generally ok, but why my historic rides in the map looks like "Z" or "X". It looks like its not recording the trip consantly. Should i do something? Tune is great, responsiveness great.
Hey mate that does sound strange maybe try deleting the app and reinstalling it and let me know
I downloaded the new app, and just thought it would update the old one so I continued to use it. It took me a few rides before I realized it's a completely new app, and the old one still works. I've only had 2 rides on the new app, but the one thing that kills it for me is that there is no map while riding. The old app I could pull up a trail map while I was riding and it would show me where I was on the trials. I ride a lot of places that are new to me, so i rely on this feature to get around. I know there are things like strava or map my ride that do it, but I don't want a separate app. I don't know why they axed this feature.
Anyway, I have about 500 miles on my Turbo Levo Expert and I haven't adjusted the tune yet. I never ride in eco mode, so I want to learn what these settings are, so I can tune it and adjust eco to something i'll use more. This is a great video to start.
Where is the page to make the firmware updates (e.g. for the motor) in this new app?
Yes, where we can see the firmware version ? It's no more possible :( ??
I'm sticking with the older app on my GEN 2 turbo levo. That's because I have switched over to the Blevo app which allows me all the ability to fine-tune the power levels and acceleration response, etc. but most importantly it also works in conjunction with Levociraptor which has delimited my bike so the motor stays engaged up to 33 miles an hour as opposed to hitting that awful wall at 20 mph. I'm 58 years old and I ran into some younger dudes that were semiprofessional and they were also riding turbo levo's. I said hi to them and have a nice day and then I took off. They immediately engaged in chasing me but I smoked them because they hit that 20 mph wall and I was cruising along through the dirt at roughly 27 mph. I thought I had completely left them in the dust but those little shits would not let it go and about a half an hour later I was going up this super long hill which is probably 1500 to 2000 feet in elevation gain over about 5 miles. I looked back and thought to myself, oh shit they're gonna catch me now! I gave it everything I had but they caught me at the top of the hill! I was totally laughing and one of the young dudes came up to me and he yelled at me: "dude! You delimited that bike! There is just no way!" I laughed with an evil cackle and admitted the truth. I gave those young kids a run for their money though and it was super fun and friendly and we all had a good laugh. 😂😂😂
I like the way Bosch does assistance with their smart modes like Tour+ and EMTB. Tour+ automatically switches between eco (60% assistance) and Tour (160% assistance) based on how you are pedalling. It’s seamless and really helps to save battery. EMTB is the same but switches between Tour (160%) and Turbo (340%). Theoretically Tour+ can also go all the way up to turbo assistance but I’m not sure when it does it. It’s so smooth that it’s not easy to tell when it switches modes unless you really pay attention. I think it might go into turbo assistance when you are going up a steep hill and pushing hard but your cadence is dropping so the bike goes full power to help you maintain your speed but I’m not 100% sure about that, it’s just what I have felt.
thanks for the comment
Does this apply on the
Model: Tero -X Full-Susp. ?
Yes mate it works on all turbo e-bikes
Do you know how to update without going in to service. Thnx for video ✌️
Yeah, I'm still not quite getting the power settings. How does the rider input torque play into things. You can set the power to 100% but you are not going to get 90 nm of torque from the motor if you are only putting in 10 watts right? I get that this is a complicated function but it's like they want to hide the complexity from us and end up making it "fuzzy" to actually understand.
My best advice would be to have a good play around with the app while riding and then watch the video agai.
I used the app to add like 7% more power to sport mode , that's the mode I ride in the most , it keeps me out of Turbo so much and I really like it 😊
That's awesome! It's great to hear that the app helped you enhance the power of your sport mode. Keep enjoying your rides!
Excellent !!! With the new app how can we see if we need to update firmware? On the old app, we can see...
I’m pretty sure it just comes up with an alert to let you know you need to update!
On the new APP the battery level or percentage is always at 100%. On the old One, the level was allways the same as TCU...
Think I'll just stick with the old one. It's working fine.
Assist makes more sense than Ease.
I would give it a go because Mission Control is going away soon
@@SamsBikes I've a small phone with no data, SP connected to my Turbo which I just use as a display. It'll never know. And my SL tcu is sufficient. I don't need ride data. My muscles, or lack thereof, provide feedback. 😅
Question, just got my new Levo SL yesterday, I downloaded the new app and playing with the tune which is cool but I don’t have the shuttle or responsiveness options. Has this been changed or deleted from the app. Appreciate your feedback. Thanks
Same her. Did u find a solution?
@@Dvkokoho
I did, apparently the response and shuttle options are for the full power Levo and Kenevo models. Not the SL’s.
@@DominicCompilli where did u find that info? So its not working with turbo tero 3.0 ?
@@Dvkokoho
I got that information from my dealer the day after my 1st ride on new SL. Not sure if you mean the new Specialized App when you say Tero 3.0. But my dealer and I did make sure that my bike was up to date and downloaded the newest Specialized app.
Doesn’t seem to connect to Levo Gen1 ???
So you have any suggestions on how to connect heart rate monitor to the new app?
Can I still connect it and show it on the bike?
New app wont do that.
Sam, Mission Control supported heart rate BLE sensors. This new Specialized App does not, do you know why?
Hey mate 100% it does but ive been using it.
I don’t see how to create presets like MC.
Where in this new application can I find out the firmware version of the motor? Thank you in advance for your response.
I’ll need to check that out
@@SamsBikesThank you in advance
I like Mission control better. On this app Lock System does not work (Update your bike to use System Lock - i do not have any updates and bike came from service 2 days ago). In mission control that worked and still works.
Is there a way to not have the map displayed and just the riding stats on the screen, like you could with the Mission Control App? I would rather have larger display for the stats and not the map all the time. Thanks
Im not sure about this let me check it out also remember this app is still evolving
I switched over but none of the things on the video are available. I can’t set any of the things I like
Great app but in my experience the ride tracker is a bit...idiosyncratic. I have found it has an on/off relationship with Garmin watches, specifically their heart rate monitors and massively underrates the calories burned on a ride at times. Yesterday I rode for two-and-a-half hours and 21 miles in Trail (40/40) on my Turbo Levo Comp with 1000m of climbing and only recorded 639 calories! I get more from a decent dog walk 🤣
Blimey!
Specialized Apo? Is that just a payment calculator that tells you how many years it will take to pay off one of their bikes?
Do you have to remove the old app before getting the new one
Not at all I have both installed on my iPhone, but what you need to make sure you do if you sign out of Mission Control if you wanna use the new Specialized app
Still doesn't do the firmware update that mission control does. It also screwed up my display config when i added a new display page. The record ride functionally is much improved, but the app overall is still playing catch-up with mission control.
Thanks for sharing your feedback! It's always helpful to hear about different experiences with the app.
How do you update your bike from the NEW Specialized App now?
Missing the best part, power by heart rate. Really not happy with the change. Probably not going to ride it very much anymore
I was told it was not finished yet they will keep on adding in sure we will see this soon
Really appreciate your reply and I’ll keep an eye out for it. That said, yesterday I completed the longest and most vertical ride with the new app. I dialed down ease and spent most time in eco. 31 miles and 5,300 vert!
I’ve tried to link an old battery to the new app unsuccessfully but a new second battery linked to it. It has been escalated a couple of times but I still can’t use both batteries and the new app
I had to use the old app for both batteries
Hopefully they get it fixed, I did like the new app
Hi mate, thanks for the comment. I think what you need to do is go to your Specialized dealer and get your battery updated to the new firmware give that ago and let me know
Did that, that’s why the escalations from Straya to the states. Will keep you in the loop
Is the Mission Control app being scrapped as I’ve got a turbo creo this looks like a emtb app
What makes it look like it's specific to eMTB?
Record your current settings before downloading app because it will erase your old settings. And then you going to have to try to set up again which is a pain in the ass
Can u no longer smart control with heart rate?
not sure ? let me try and find out
where is the jump status gone? any idear?
Not sure but I’ve been told it’s a work in progress so keep updating it
The new app is good, however it doesn’t have or i can’t find the hart rate monitor control of the Mission Control.
thanks for the feeback but you actually add you heart rate monitor through the Mastermind and remote not app but maybe its a good idea to be able to add it in the app as well
I was referring more to the “Smart Control” in Mission Control. This was one of the best features to keep my hart rate more stable.
If you have mission control already. You have to uninstall the bluetooth device from the BL list before using this app. It took me months to figure out why my bike wouldn't sync. So just be aware. You have to clean out your bluetooth connections before setting up with this new app if you already set up on Mission Control.
Which phone are you using? I was using both apps with all 3 different S-Works without any issue.
That’s interesting because I have both on my iPhone 14pro and as long as I log out they both still work
Same as McCrash. Both Apps are working for me. The new one installed with no hassles. And I can connect either. The old one has the jump stats which I sometimes prefer to use, though tbh I am not convinced how accurate those stats are.
@@SamsBikes also I have the 2021 Levo. So I think it has to do with the 2021 units. No one has had any issues otherwise from my own research. Specialized support helped me out big time.
I had to unscrew the head unit and reenter the PIN number on the side of it. To properly reregister the bluetooth. It took me months to get this worked out.
Just a friendly heads up for any others out there that experience the trouble.
I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max.
@@PabloOlea59 iPhone 13 Pro Max on the 2021 Levo unit. Had to unscrew the TCU and reinput the pin on the side of it to reregister the bluetooth. When I cleared out the original BT profile.
Why no more updated bikes in the App. Is now must be done by dialer
No I’m pretty sure you can still update your bikes the only thing you will need to go to dealer for will be the battery.
But i cant find where I can update my bike! 🫣 and there is no serial number too! I think the new App isnt really complete now!
The new app removed heart rate motor control. No more outdoor HR zone training. It’s back to indoor ftp training for me. The best feature of Mission Control is now gone. I could not be more disappointed with Specialized.
I have heard this a few times I’m sure they will bring it back