Am I the only one who isn’t worried about Clem dying? I’m pretty sure Telltale has already said in multiple interviews that Clementine dying isn’t necessarily what they plan to do with her story or something like that. They KNOW we don’t want her to die, and they’ve made it clear how much they care about Clem themselves. I just feel like this “foreshadowing” of Clem dying are just red herrings. Telltale knows it would be just lazy to just completely rehash Season 1, and killing Clementine would be no different then Lee’s death. If anything she’ll most likely come out as determinant. AJ on the other hand...
TʜᴇTʀᴀsʜBɪɴ the foreshadowing is too strong to be actual foreshadowing. Usually you only understand them after it happens when u look back at it. With seeing how detailed the writers r working this season i think its on purpose
I have a good feeling AJ will be determinant but Clementine will not die. They've been trying to mislead people wil red herrings since before the game came out and they definitely know, like you said, how annoyed people would be if they killed her.
I even doubt she'd be determinant since if there's an ending where she does indeed die while in another one she doesn't, people would try their best to get the ending where she doesn't. Everyone would deem it the "good" ending, even if everyone else is dead. As shown in this video, the devs want the endings to be satisfying and "our endings", which would be a complete slap in the face to the fans who would get the ending where Clem dies because it'd be like the devs saying "you deserved this ending. Clem deserved to die here."
So this theory wasn't entirely correct. They don't actually use the boat, they instead blow it up. "Jill" is nowhere to be found, the ship crew are also nowhere to be found. That being said, the point of the theory was about Clementine's house and where it will end. I think it's highly unlikely now that Clementine will return home in present day but after the Lee sequence I'm 99% sure the next Lee scene will take place in her house, since Lee did say "the train this time?" which implies Clem changes her "dream" environments. It would be poetic to end the series where it began and would make the achievement "gone full circle" still apply. Looking forward to the next episode!
I’m super bummed out that it’s unlikely they’ll go back to the house. That would have been a perfect ending in my opinion. I miss your videos! I’ll be patient though and will look forward to the next one, whenever it is uploaded. I’m excited to know your thoughts about episode three.
I just wanted to thank your for the great Video! I am a huge fan of the games. I am kinda depressed and nervouse at the same time, cuz i am afraid of Clems death. Even if i thinks I not likely to happen.
But if you remember, the E3 Teaser is at James old house. They seems to be alone, and the fishing scene hasn´t been in the last 3 episodes, maybe it will become their home ?
But seriously just imagine if they made it back home what if go to the place were clem killed Lee and his body was still there. Man that will be a tear jerker for sure Edit: also one more thing what if it was a cycle what if clem dies the same way Lee did that would probably cause a flashback or it happens after she dies
Christa probably ended up dying Telltale was killing off so many characters from S1 and S2 except Clementine You can hear Christa struggling and after a shot goes off you don’t hear anything from Christa She goes completely silent, so I think she is dead
I believe Clem is 16 and AJ is 5, he just seems older cause he never had a normal childhood, like ever. Survival, guns, knives that is all he knew. if I'm wrong, we'll probably find out in episodes 3 or 4. every season says clem's age at least once. Season 1 Clem, Christa and the stranger say her age. Season 2 Clem says her age. Season 3 Ava says her age. So season 4 her age will be revealed somewhere. As for location, season 1 Georgia. Season 2 I'm thinking North Carolina cause of the license plate by the campfire. Season 3 Virginia cause they stated she's close to where Rick is and the fact she met Jesus confirmed it. Season 4, it's been at least 3 or 4 years since season 3, so yeah in that amount of time and considering we dunno how long they stayed at the ranch, they could be anywhere in the US. But James asking where's she's from I doubt that's just random small talk. It'll be important later I bet. Based on the images though I do believe there will be a boat and maybe even Clem somehow (intentionally or accidentally) Ends up back home. But by boat the only know dock is in Savannah so she might run into her parents and Lee on the way (and have to put down her parents and Lee if she left him). Seeing Lee dead or as a walker might trigger flashbacks of hallucinations of Lee like Michonne had of her daughters. So she might end up walking back home from Savannah, or if she's lucky taking a car. I know Savannah was overrun but after 7-9 years those walkers had to have spread out or gotten killed by people. Texture wise some new textures of her treehouse could be flashbacks of Clem surviving in her tree house, maybe before Sandra died. Old destroyed textures might be Clem actually returning home. It would be crazy though as after so many years what are the odds of ending up back home. Also if you notice the one image of clem's house. No blood on the floor. Everything clean. Clearly before the outbreak hit them. So flashback scene. I hope they use it. I was sad that they deleted it in ANF.
The clem's house pic with no blood is from the Sandra scene btw, before Sandra turns so you're right. That cut flashback probably would've been the best thing about ANF.
Oh.. Shit.. You, may have a point! That is why.. If you haven't played the other games, until now. Like yours truly, whom just got into it.. Unlike the other games, save for season one of course.. You have to make the key decisions, whether you like it or not, I.E shoot Lee, or ditch lily.. It isn't chosen for u, at random.. Not like, season two, as I, recently discovered!!! Choices do matter, one way or another!
I'm not a fan either. I also really disliked how Clementine can insult her for no reason. The only reason the choice exists is so that people that didn't like Lilly in season 1 can shit talk her which doesn't make sense because Lee and Clementine are two different characters. Even if Lee hated Lilly, there's not really any good reason for Clem to hate her.
I’m not so sure about that. I have a theory things aren’t as they seem with Lilly, shown by her little bits of mercy she gives if Clementine is not too cruel to her and how she’s not completely on the ball with Abel in some situations. She could be under immense pressure of threat by the group she’s in and doesn’t agree with everything, but she’s forced to do the under the fear of death. Obviously that doesn’t excuse her actions, but I like to think there’s a lot more going on then they let on.
She isn't *pure* evil, as Lily hesitates. She has history with Clem, and Lily struggling to kill her means she atleast somewhat *Cherished* the old group. Or atleast still see's Clem as a little girl, and wouldn't kill a little girl. Showing a snippit of *Morality* .
I don’t think that the achievement “You and me” with the description “Came full circle” refers to coming back to Clem’s house. I think that it means that Clem and AJ will be the last ones left from the group, just like at the beginning of the season
I think the "Home At Last" could refer to you filling your room with all of the collectibles. But a lot of this does make sense. Also, will there be Season 4 Cut Content vids at some point?
Sure, but I think it's a double entendre. Also probably not because if I made one it would be 2 minutes long and kinda boring, there's no interesting cut models or storylines or anything like that.
There's not much cut content, they didn't get that far in development. All we know from the original season 4 was that there wouldn't be a timeskip at the start and we would instead control Clementine as she was searching for the ranch, some ANF characters would also return but now in the final version you can might as well just skip ANF completely because absolutely nothing mattered.
Here's my theory for Broken Toys: At the beginning of Broken Toys, Clementine has the choice of interrogating Abel in a good cop, bad cop way. Ruby being the good cop, since she has no vendetta against the Delta, and Willy being the bad cop, seeking revenge for Mitch's death. Clementine will have to side with one of the two. The children will be informed of Delta's location and use Abel as a bargaining chip (similar to Michonne) in exchange for their friends. They'll be held a gunpoint by Lilly, Sullene, Dorian and the other raiders. Omar, Aasim and Violet/Louis will be brought out, tied up, gagged, beaten and God knows what else. The trade won't end well and a shootout will begin. A few characters will die (including Abel) and the survivors will have to flee. This is where Asha, Jill and Michael come in. I see them as the Abraham, Eugene and Rosita of the game. Clementine and the survivors will encounter the three and will initially distrust them. However, Clem will convince them to join her group, defeat Lilly and escape onto the water. Clementine will bond with the three and the group will find the ship. They'll then set sail until they're attacked by Lilly and the Delta. A fight will ensue on the ship. Some characters will die (including Rosie) and Clementine will have another "Who to Save?" choice between Omar and Aasim (Save Aasim!). Whoever she saves will escape the ship with her along with any other survivors. The ship will sink and Clementine, AJ, Omar/Aasim and the others (if there are any) will reach shore. Walkers will attack them and Clementine will unexpectedly get bit.
I just want Clementine to survive this and never die...with her, Aj and whoever you chose as her significant other...telltale enjoys killing our favourite characters T.T
The “Tally” achievement at the end of Ep3, paired with the “sneaky” achievement beforehand, has me to believe clem gets captured and a timeskip occurs where she counts how long she’s been kept captive
I've had an idea that the Sneaky achievement has something to do with you controlling James, having him lead a horde through the camp as he looks for Clem to bust out, and not getting spotted by any people. The Tally achievement does indicate she gets captured or hands herself over or something. IMO, it'd be fucking amazing to go wandering around the area 'distracting' walkers into your targets while you look for her (and maybe find her hat).
"You and me, came full circle" That line supports your theory. They came full circle to where Clem's journey began. Maybe that means they'll go back to the ruins? Very low chance although, and not alot of evidence towards it.
You know, I'm pretty they planned for an episode 5. The files seem to hint towards an episode 5 'framework' but considering Telltale are gone and Skybound probably don't want to pay for more than they have to... it's not going to happen.
Well i thougt so too, i remember just after episode one realese there was 4 selectable episodes and one without name and background, and when episode 2 got realesed that section is gone :/
The plot thickens! Perhaps I was right the entire time... it just got scrapped. Watch my TFS Original Story video for an update. 18th August 2019 update: Yep, it was confirmed a recent AMA with a ttg employee that this was the original ending and was indeed scrapped. Looking back at some of the people calling it bullshit is funny in retrospect.
Ok, so here is what I think will happen in Broken toys and my theories for each achievement. You use Abel to get directions to Delta, then, you have the choice of killing him, or sparing him and taking him with you back to Delta. Willy try's to convince you to kill him to avenge Mitch, while other members of the group don't want you to kill him (Mercy Achievement). This will work as sort of a Max situation from season 3, where if you spare Max, he helps you later on, but if you kill him, it works against you. Then, as you stop to rest for the night, you have a bonding moment with everyone and talk about how they got to a school for troubled youth in the first place. You then, have an option to sleep with the group, which they encourage you to do (Nightlight achievement) or, stay up and keep watch and make sure Abel doesn't escape (if you choose to keep him) or you don't get attacked (All-seeing achievement). Then, the next morning you wake up, you need to eat, and without "Chef Omar" and his cooking skills, you are forced to find your own food, so there might be a cut scene where you try different foods in the wilderness to see if they are edible or not, and if you choose to do this, Ruby will recall the time you tried to eat a mushroom in the green house (Did you lick it? Achievement). Then, you will be reaching the end of the journey to finding Delta, where you may decide to distance yourself from your love interest (Louis or Violet), from either Minnie coming into the picture if you pick Violet or you distancing yourself because of Louis wanting to take it slow because he is still traumatised after Marlon's death (Personal space Achievement).And finally, at the end of the episode, when you reach Delta, you get a choice either to approach Delta sneakily, and secretly try and rescue Aasim, Omar and Louis/Violet (As a mouse achievement), or, give yourself up to Delta in exchange for taking Aasim, Omar and Louis/Violet back, and try and escape from inside Delta by yourself, but you are forced to stay in there for a certain amount of days from the plan to be executed perfectly (Tally Achievement). While either sneaking around or in captivity, you run into Minnie and Asha, and then, the episode will leave us on the cliff hanger of "Will Minnie and Asha help you?". I'd also like to point out that Sophie (the other twin) has hardly been mentioned, this is really suspicious to me, i think it means in the war between Delta and the other group, she may have died, because not even Lilly mentioned her when describing Minnie's new life, or maybe she didn't want to give in to Delta and wanted to go back, so Delta killed her to prove a point to Minnie that they're stronger than the Ericson's school and would kill her if she didn't cooperate or would die if she went back. Thats my theory. Thanks if you made it through all that. (I have copied and pasted my theories on other walking dead: final season inspired videos)
Pretty interesting theory! They recently stated that depending on who you go with their are more branching paths so I could definitely see this being the case. But I can't ignore the boat connection that's been made from both the menu slide/concept art so it has to fit in somewhere. I definitely think Sophie died in the community war and the reason Minerva did not try to escape is to avenge her sister. Or something like that. It'll be interestingt to see how it all develops.
My god, I had the same theory but of course I was too worried about messing up my game somehow to go digging through the files. Just the title of 'Take us back' had me convinced. Good video man :P
I believe it will be a hallucinations like in Machionne, otherwise it seems unnecessary to go back there as a whole, especially with the new crew. This theory is excellent and I have full belief it will come true, though as a hallucination form. Lee might also be in her hallucination or in a separated flashback which is already confirmed. Good job dude, keep up the good work.
my theory: she will lose everything and trace her steps or live the rest of her life in her in the last home she had knowing life is about living as best as you can and she will never join a group, knowing death will happen whether or not she tries to save them hope in hopelessness
That's quite a depressing ending. I don't think that'll happen, they'll give Clementine a good ending before the series wraps up. That's my guess, anyway.
The season has already been rewritten once, together with every other TWD season except the first, if Clementine was meant to have a determinant death originally, I can guarantee Skybound will rewrite that so that she doesn't die no matter what, I believe this to be the case because Robert Kirkman has said that he doesn't want Clementine and Rick to die in the same year, and that he wouldn't mind adding Clementine to his comics... oh god please no don't bring Clem into his shitty comics Clem has been through enough. And about Clementine returning home, Yeah I've heard people speculating about that, people claim that she will return home and put down all her collectibles inside her house, hence the achievement "Home At Last" like you said. What do you think will happen to Clementine? Those 4 optional achievements hint that she and AJ will both be determinant.
Robert Kirkman is awful, he's one of the reasons why ANF was so bad. When ANF got rewritten, he stole the original idea for ANF for his comics... he got credit for something a few old writers at Telltale made.
I don't think the possibility of her dying was ever going to happen after A New Frontier. They fucked up too much and they kinda owe it to people to not kill her off. But these are Telltale writers we're talking about so anything is possible lol. I'm like 95% sure they won't kill her. As for AJ, I think they might make his fate determinant.
I heard, season 2 was actually suppose to be alot darker, in the previews of the episode, she was walking ALONE on the road, mean she was walking alone, even heard that you were able to commit suicide.. yeah.
The original story for ANF was written by the only remaining season 1 writers left at Telltale. The New Frontier was actually called "The Marauders", a cult that tried to establish a new world order by enslaving people and taking over territory, their slaves were marked with the brand that we see in ANF (The Capricorn Zodiac Symbol). The Marauders used a slaughterhouse to imprison and tortue their slaves, and also to store up walkers. Javier and Clementine would both get imprisoned in the slaughterhouse and would be forced to work together to escape and to rescue their loved ones (Kenny/Jane, AJ and Mariana). Thanks to Kevin Bruner's terrible leadership, these season 1 writers got moved to other projects and instead some new unexperienced writers was put to work on ANF which ruined the story, the last remaining season 1 writers left the company shortly after and Robert Kirkman then introduced "A new world order" in his comics... what a crazy coincidence right?
Tile_roadDamageClemHouse -Yes that does seem like pretty solid evidence. I think they said that while Episode 3, was unfinished, it was in a semi-playable state.They also apparently had all the voice acting done. So I suspect that this episode will mostly be as it was intended. Now there might be more divergence for the last episode, but we cant know until it comes out, and the former developers explain how it differs.
Omggg ur so amazing this vid was amazing ^^ but im wondering, there are so much boat related things like you said, like getting a boat is gonna happen fast, my question is, does that mean we are not gonna resque the kids? I mean thats stupid to think, the ending of ep 2 and the minerva concept art are just hinting towards that we are, so i was thinking, maybe after we resque the kids we try to run away from lily and shit and end up on the shore or something and then see that boat? And maybe just maybe we are ineed gonna travel to Clems house with it, but that seems to easy, Telltale never keeps this many people alive, so i think everyone is gonna die and then you have too choose between violet and Louis, I can just picture an ending in my head where You Aj and the person you chose are standing tongether, holding hands and then maybe we will get a voiceover of Clem saying this is the end, this is our little family now, we only have each other left, and we will fight to protect each other, and then they just stand or walk off into the distance y'know? OMG this comment is waaaay to long xd sorry but this vid just really got me thinking, you should make more of these ^^ anyways thx for listening byee Ps where did you get that scene from where you can hear Clem sing to AJ
I did say that in the video about saving the kids 2:25 but I also said I'm not sure if they'll be able to save everyone or if they get caught or whatever. The Clem/AJ video is here: ua-cam.com/video/OVAQrE5A5sI/v-deo.html
This theory is good and all but this is how I think her story arc will end she sadly will end up dying along with everyone else. I think "Home At Last" means that she'll be in heaven and finally be with her family and Lee again and everyone who helped and took care of her along the way. I feel like this will be the ending since the afterlife has been mentioned a lot in episode 1 by Tenn and I think was mentioned once in episode 2. People might think she might go back home where it all started but then what? She just sits down on a couch and doesn't have to worry about surviving anymore? If there were more seasons coming up then yeah let that be the ending for season 4 but there isn't anymore seasons after this one and what better way to end her story with her finally being able to see her family see Lee the man who protected and taught her about survival see Kenny the other man who protected her and wanted what was best for her see Katjaa and Duck the people who always made sure she was happy when she was a little girl living in a cruel world see Ben the teen who also made sure she was happy even if he did screw up a few times in the end it didn't stop him from looking for Clem along with Omid and Christa home for her as a little girl was this group and not only will she be with them she'll also be with the troubled youth group since we all know they'll probably die too. Everyone just enjoying the afterlife together
This would be both a sad and kinda happy ending, but it would make sense (giving the story closure and all). It would probably be satisfying (and emotional) enough for the fanbase, with a reunion with past characters in heaven. Also maybe telltale was hinting at this with Tenn suggesting that there's something good waiting on the other side.
Tenn telling us that death isn't scary because there's something good in the afterlife is telltale telling us that Clem dying isn't a bad thing because she won't have to worry anymore and she will be reunited with the others... I also think, since it's the final season, we will get an ending that does finish her story. And I can't see that with an ending other than death.
lee better returnes, my hope is that its not in a flasback but in an sort of dream where lee will reunite with clem and see how she is now. i hope they will give her a good ending. thx for the vid
My theories on Episode 4's achievements: You and Me: Clem and AJ are the sole survivors by the end of the season or Clem remembers all of the good (and bad) times with AJ. Goodbye: Clem and AJ leave the boarding school or Clem says goodbye to a character who's dying/dead. Promise: Clem promises the boarding school kids that she won't leave. In the PC version, Clem trusts Louis, Violet, Tenn, Aasim, Ruby, Willy, Omar, or possibly a new or returning character to look after AJ when she's gone. Lost and Found: Clem gets separated from the group and determinately finds her hat or she dies and AJ, one of the kids, or the new/returning characters find it. In the PC version, Clem murders someone (possibly Lilly or a brainwashed Minerva) and hides it from everyone. I think Goodbye and Promise are choice related achievements, with Clem choosing to stay at the school or leave.
The true ending: If you cut off Lee’s arm, Didn’t handcuff him to the radiator, and didn’t shoot him. You find out that Lee isn’t dead, he went looking for the group until eventually he went back to Clemtines house and began living there in a small hope his girl would come back. Making sure your choices mattered.
*NOSTALGIC ENDING - How cool would it be if you went back through like the farm and the motel and the train and everywhere you were in the very first season, all to make it back to the high-way and go through the woods to find the police car from where Lee crashed and go over her back yard fence into her house and she gets bit, climbs up her tree house for safety, remembering her journey as she turns. That would be really cool
I hear a theory that if your with violet, clem and her will rebuild the school but! If your with louis, clem and him go back to clem's house. JUST A THEORY!! but i hope this is true!
Really nice video mate, really enjoyed it and it's a pretty plausible theory, aye. I got some constructive criticism for ya though for future videos: you sound pretty quiet in this video, and it would have made some jokes in your script sound a lot smoother if you spoke with more confidence. It's YOUR channel and people come here to listen to YOU. Try and work on your vocal projection. But other than that, great video. I'm excited to see more of your content. Also the Pete Hawley joke was bloody brilliant
Thanks for the feedback man, the voice over stuff is definitely something I need to work on. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and sorry I didn't reply sooner. UA-cam has a shit notification system.
@@InColdBloodTTG Ye I'm glad you found the time to reply. No worries about it being late, UA-cam's notif system is dogshit - I was trying to organise an interview for a documentary I'm working on and had nothing to contact this person other than UA-cam's comments and we both lost track of everything. But aye cheers for actually reading the comment, I like your content and wanted to leave a comment that actually held some merit
I know people don't want to see clem die in the ending but I think that would make a perfect ending. Everything comes full circle with her going through what happened to Lee.
So... what will happen to your channel since telltale... you know... DIED. P.S. Take Us Back is a song name. THE song, that played at the end of the season 1. Author of the song is Alela Diane.
@@InColdBloodTTG Please don't shut your channel down, you still can use your GODLIKE skills of finding things on other telltale-like games, for example Life is Strange, The Council...
@@InColdBloodTTG well. Maybe skybound will continue some of the telltale series. Or you could try to do videos on older telltale games/other point and click adventure game.
If it really is true we will go back to Clem's House, maybe they will use the Sandra Flashback that they didn't use as a part of Clem reminiscing her memories there?
@@InColdBloodTTG I mean, the audio clips and such are already made why did they scrapped it? It would be interesting to see the apocalypse start especially on Clem's perspective
Great theory! I didn’t think about that. I really missed your videos :-) Do you have a plan to do videos about deleted scenes from The Final Season? I hope you will :-) I really loved your videos about deleted scenes !
I loved the theory, i imagine that they indeed go to around Clem's house was. Maybe that they send her and AJ for a mission? I imagine them being on a mission around there, and they are doing well and Clem gets bit by a zombie. (Well Clem said she will protect AJ like Lee protected her so why not die similar to Lee?) If Clem gets attention of the zombies on herself and lets AJ run away, and she manages to kinda escape, and hide inside a house. When she looks around, the realizes it's her house. Memories are coming back to her. Maybe she sits down on a couch, and looks around imagining her Parents thanking Lee for protecting her, just sitting around her. She gets a gun, puts it to her head, closes her eyes and says "We'll see eachother very shortly.." and shots which results in her dying. My theory is bad as hell qwq But i might kinda doubt it at the same time as the "Home At Last" now says "Placed all Episode Four collectables"
I've noticed that the texture called tile_roadDamagedClemHouse has got these two lines in the middle of the road while on the screen of her house's neighbourhood I can't spot any. Or it might be just a different road close to her house. I don't know. I also think similar texture (or even the same) was used at the very beginning of the first episode when we see Clem driving a car. I suppose those two black holes mean that there's some hole in a road or something like that.
Yeah, the reason the texture is in the demo and in episode 1 is because it's used for other things in the game. The name of the texture is a big reason as to why I believe the theory to be true, especially when they said that they worked on the ending first. It would make sense that the textures from the ending are used in earlier episodes.
I agree with you, just noticed that the road on the screenshot doesn't have those two lines in the middle as the texture mentioned in the video (might be developer's mistake or something just like that). Though I think that all the proofs you've given have proven to me that the game might take place in Clem's house, too. I acutally started to think this way when I saw The Walking Dead: The Final Season announcement trailer and at the beginning of that video Clem's treehouse was to be seen.
Seeing as Season 4 is supposed to be a huge throwback to Season 1, I think it would be interesting if the last Episode ends with Clementine dying in the exact same manner that Lee did at the end of Season 1, and just overall having it be a very sad trip down memory lane, and there are two reasons I think it's possible for that to happen, the first being that Lilly even says to Clementine that she'll die protecting AJ, and the second being that Episode 4 is titled 'Take Us Back' which is the name of the song that plays in the end credits of Season 1, the point is that there's too much foreshadowing to rule that out as a possibility.
But Lily also said Clem would die...if she repeated Lee's mistakes. Clem is not Lee. It's going to be tough, but I think Clem is going to do something different.
I think she has bad memories everywhere. But at least at her home, she grew up happy with her family for 8 years. Logically though, yeah it doesn't make much sense. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
She had more bad memories of Savannah than Atlanta. She spent 8 happy years of childhood with her parents, of course she would miss her home and the time when everything was fine. But in Savannah she saw her parents as Walkers and Lee died on the same day, all of her hopes died in Savannah. So to me it makes much more sense going home than to Savannah.
I disagree. Although I don’t believe it’s a flashback, I don’t believe she’ll go back either. I think that Clem could have another nightmare and experience it inside her house. The broken roads might be there to make the dream scarier along with maybe the house being in ruins or something.
Honestly, I think the Promise/Better Life descriptions are referring to the obligatory end fight at the end of every season, that Clementine can/does end up breaking.
This made me think about something. I wonder if Clementine has ever told AJ about that fight. How much does AJ know about Clementine's past? Does he know who is father is or why he was called AJ? I guess he's a bit too young to understand the significance.
I think this could be a possible ending too the series like the finale choice to visit her old house or not or maybe to live their they said that multiple ending would happen depending on your choices like where you setup Base and where you live forever and who comes and lives with you the bare minimum living alone with Aj in where ever you choose to live maybe that’s too much to except but it might happen and this is theory a never mind I won’t make that joke but anyway that’s just what I think
kadensoi well yeah kinda. I was thinking he could come back because when you were choosing what did you choose before the start of Final Season they really focused on the Kenny Jane situation.
Another subtle foreshadowing I realized just now is that in Episode 1, clem talks with brody about where you would want to go if you could, with violet dismissing it. Episode 2, violet and clem look up in the stars and again, traveling somewhere is brought up with less negativity from her about it. Perhaps going to clems house will be a determinant ending if you romance violet? Or she supports clems desire to go to her house?
Very well thought out theory. I think if we are returning to Clementine's original home that basically confirms she will die in her tree house, this fulfils the full circle telltale are going for to finish her story which I do believe is the right thing to do. Lee started in handcuffs and died in handcuffs, Clementine starts in her tree house and dies in her tree house? I do think you're onto something with this, hope to see more walking dead content from you dude.
I find this really interesting, especially episode 4 being called "Take Us Back". I always thought of it meaning somebody forgiving Clementine and AJ and never even considered it literally being taken back.
I think Louis or Violet will be a playable character in Episode Four and MAYBE Episode Three, rather than AJ. I think we may be able to switch between them for scenes, and when they're together, switch when you want to.
How I would like season 4 to end is Clementine and AJ bringing there group to Richmond to help fight off Lilly’s group. They win and Clem and AJ live happily ever after in Richmond but we all know it won’t happen.
It would be 2 minutes long. There isn't really any cut content to show you except for one thing that I might make a short video on. edit: Shit, sorry I misread your comment. If there's cut stuff in episode 3 and 4 I will definitely make a video on it!
What if they meet the boat group from the Michonne DLC? Like Pete, Oak, and Siddiq? That would be a long shot, but really cool. Also one more thing, when you tell James that you’re from Georgia, and he says “long way from home.” So it implies that you’re pretty far away from Georgia, so I’m not sure how far away, but it seems far. So the evidence that is showed is very convincing, but maybe they’ll find a new house closer to Ericson’s, and stay there. Maybe they decide that the schools to dangerous and run away, maybe my brain is just making up shit, but going back to Georgia? That seems like a little bit of a long shot.
Idk about the road texture, neither the road outside of Clems house, nor the highway that Lee crashed on had a similar texture. Maybe it's a flash forward and she ends up staying in some other overgrown house.
Looking at the road from the start if E1, its the same type of road with the same lane dividers. That with the foliage and other textures makes me think these are from the Train Station
In Tenn's drawing there is a treehouse and that is where Lee found her...i never thought of this theory but i think its certainly up there as a possibility. Maybe there is a base or something in Atlanta that the Boat Crew tells her about and maybe the base happens to be in the same area as Clem's House.
People say that Clem won't die, or that she is going to die . . . But that's the beauty of multiple endings! One ending she can die and happily join Lee, Kenny and past allies in the afterlife, even a reunion with her parents. Sad yet happy ending, or other endings where she survived and happily lived with her ship-mate or her and AJ alone, finding a permanent group to call home or maybe the zombie apocalypse finally ended out of nowhere! I doubt it but multiple endings can happen a lot, especially for Clem's story.
Kenny the boat god
Oh wassup lee how's clem up there
nickooisreal preciado Clem is not dead
@@leeeverett2918 yea that's why I said how's. Clem she died and went to heaven I guess
Lee can u cure my depression
hamid zahir yes go Watch the Kenny is god video
Am I the only one who isn’t worried about Clem dying? I’m pretty sure Telltale has already said in multiple interviews that Clementine dying isn’t necessarily what they plan to do with her story or something like that. They KNOW we don’t want her to die, and they’ve made it clear how much they care about Clem themselves. I just feel like this “foreshadowing” of Clem dying are just red herrings.
Telltale knows it would be just lazy to just completely rehash Season 1, and killing Clementine would be no different then Lee’s death. If anything she’ll most likely come out as determinant. AJ on the other hand...
TʜᴇTʀᴀsʜBɪɴ the foreshadowing is too strong to be actual foreshadowing. Usually you only understand them after it happens when u look back at it.
With seeing how detailed the writers r working this season i think its on purpose
I have a good feeling AJ will be determinant but Clementine will not die. They've been trying to mislead people wil red herrings since before the game came out and they definitely know, like you said, how annoyed people would be if they killed her.
I even doubt she'd be determinant since if there's an ending where she does indeed die while in another one she doesn't, people would try their best to get the ending where she doesn't. Everyone would deem it the "good" ending, even if everyone else is dead. As shown in this video, the devs want the endings to be satisfying and "our endings", which would be a complete slap in the face to the fans who would get the ending where Clem dies because it'd be like the devs saying "you deserved this ending. Clem deserved to die here."
TʜᴇTʀᴀsʜBɪɴ the only way Clem can be determinant is if there is an AJ or Clem decision.Like save yourself or save AJ.
So true TheTrashBin - I think we can all agree that even if every character dies, as long as Clementine survives it's all good lol
So this theory wasn't entirely correct. They don't actually use the boat, they instead blow it up. "Jill" is nowhere to be found, the ship crew are also nowhere to be found.
That being said, the point of the theory was about Clementine's house and where it will end. I think it's highly unlikely now that Clementine will return home in present day but after the Lee sequence I'm 99% sure the next Lee scene will take place in her house, since Lee did say "the train this time?" which implies Clem changes her "dream" environments.
It would be poetic to end the series where it began and would make the achievement "gone full circle" still apply. Looking forward to the next episode!
I’m super bummed out that it’s unlikely they’ll go back to the house. That would have been a perfect ending in my opinion.
I miss your videos! I’ll be patient though and will look forward to the next one, whenever it is uploaded. I’m excited to know your thoughts about episode three.
I just wanted to thank your for the great Video! I am a huge fan of the games. I am kinda depressed and nervouse at the same time, cuz i am afraid of Clems death. Even if i thinks I not likely to happen.
But if you remember, the E3 Teaser is at James old house. They seems to be alone, and the fishing scene hasn´t been in the last 3 episodes, maybe it will become their home ?
But seriously just imagine if they made it back home what if go to the place were clem killed Lee and his body was still there. Man that will be a tear jerker for sure
Edit: also one more thing what if it was a cycle what if clem dies the same way Lee did that would probably cause a flashback or it happens after she dies
Yep.. Just like season two... They were in the RV... Is that where the dream sequences began.... Or was it before, Arvo fucking shot Clementine??!!
Damn it, I want to see Christa.
Edit: Oh hey I got 5 likes. Feature me on Time Magazine pls
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#savechrists
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Christa probably ended up dying
Telltale was killing off so many characters from S1 and S2 except Clementine
You can hear Christa struggling and after a shot goes off you don’t hear anything from Christa
She goes completely silent, so I think she is dead
Now it's 95 likes 10.21.18
Shsheh
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Well this theory didn't age well, huh? Oh well. It was a fun video to make. Next video will be a cut content video (sort of) for Season 4.
edit: SIKE
InColdBlood yup
Can’t wait!
You should review and play it first
Yay!
It still would have been a sick ending
I believe Clem is 16 and AJ is 5, he just seems older cause he never had a normal childhood, like ever. Survival, guns, knives that is all he knew. if I'm wrong, we'll probably find out in episodes 3 or 4. every season says clem's age at least once. Season 1 Clem, Christa and the stranger say her age. Season 2 Clem says her age. Season 3 Ava says her age. So season 4 her age will be revealed somewhere. As for location, season 1 Georgia. Season 2 I'm thinking North Carolina cause of the license plate by the campfire. Season 3 Virginia cause they stated she's close to where Rick is and the fact she met Jesus confirmed it. Season 4, it's been at least 3 or 4 years since season 3, so yeah in that amount of time and considering we dunno how long they stayed at the ranch, they could be anywhere in the US. But James asking where's she's from I doubt that's just random small talk. It'll be important later I bet.
Based on the images though I do believe there will be a boat and maybe even Clem somehow (intentionally or accidentally) Ends up back home. But by boat the only know dock is in Savannah so she might run into her parents and Lee on the way (and have to put down her parents and Lee if she left him). Seeing Lee dead or as a walker might trigger flashbacks of hallucinations of Lee like Michonne had of her daughters. So she might end up walking back home from Savannah, or if she's lucky taking a car. I know Savannah was overrun but after 7-9 years those walkers had to have spread out or gotten killed by people.
Texture wise some new textures of her treehouse could be flashbacks of Clem surviving in her tree house, maybe before Sandra died. Old destroyed textures might be Clem actually returning home. It would be crazy though as after so many years what are the odds of ending up back home.
Also if you notice the one image of clem's house. No blood on the floor. Everything clean. Clearly before the outbreak hit them. So flashback scene. I hope they use it. I was sad that they deleted it in ANF.
The clem's house pic with no blood is from the Sandra scene btw, before Sandra turns so you're right. That cut flashback probably would've been the best thing about ANF.
I’m pretty sure Clem is 17
Oh.. Shit.. You, may have a point!
That is why.. If you haven't played the other games, until now. Like yours truly, whom just got into it.. Unlike the other games, save for season one of course.. You have to make the key decisions, whether you like it or not, I.E shoot Lee, or ditch lily.. It isn't chosen for u, at random.. Not like, season two, as I, recently discovered!!!
Choices do matter, one way or another!
@@JoeySehn Melissa Hutchinson Confirmed That Clem is 16 And AJ Is 5 Due To That 3 Years Fact Stuff Bruh.
What a Coincidence I'm 16 And My Brother is 5. It's Like Me and Clem Were Born On The Same Year and The Same Month.
Nice theory, nice video, nice thumbnail, great!
SmackNPie omg smacknpie I love you're videos
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The OG The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us ripper. So much information.
nice music
Love you Smack!!
Lilly was over-the-top, they turned her into a Pure Evil villain archetype, don't know how I feel about that.
I'm not a fan either. I also really disliked how Clementine can insult her for no reason. The only reason the choice exists is so that people that didn't like Lilly in season 1 can shit talk her which doesn't make sense because Lee and Clementine are two different characters. Even if Lee hated Lilly, there's not really any good reason for Clem to hate her.
I hope we can make her good again. or at least make her like us.
I’m not so sure about that. I have a theory things aren’t as they seem with Lilly, shown by her little bits of mercy she gives if Clementine is not too cruel to her and how she’s not completely on the ball with Abel in some situations. She could be under immense pressure of threat by the group she’s in and doesn’t agree with everything, but she’s forced to do the under the fear of death. Obviously that doesn’t excuse her actions, but I like to think there’s a lot more going on then they let on.
There's evidence against that. You can obviously tell through body language that she doesn't want to kill any kids.
She isn't *pure* evil, as Lily hesitates. She has history with Clem, and Lily struggling to kill her means she atleast somewhat *Cherished* the old group. Or atleast still see's Clem as a little girl, and wouldn't kill a little girl. Showing a snippit of *Morality* .
I don’t think that the achievement “You and me” with the description “Came full circle” refers to coming back to Clem’s house. I think that it means that Clem and AJ will be the last ones left from the group, just like at the beginning of the season
Fair enough. I was just thinking with all the different parrlels towards season 1, that would be another one of them.
OR AJ WILL SHOOT CLEM, I GUESS THATS OKAY TOO.
this series is eating my soul out slowly.
I think the "Home At Last" could refer to you filling your room with all of the collectibles. But a lot of this does make sense. Also, will there be Season 4 Cut Content vids at some point?
Sure, but I think it's a double entendre. Also probably not because if I made one it would be 2 minutes long and kinda boring, there's no interesting cut models or storylines or anything like that.
There's not much cut content, they didn't get that far in development. All we know from the original season 4 was that there wouldn't be a timeskip at the start and we would instead control Clementine as she was searching for the ranch, some ANF characters would also return but now in the final version you can might as well just skip ANF completely because absolutely nothing mattered.
Ayyy you were right
@@galacticquasaur2956 wooahh, nice
Here's my theory for Broken Toys:
At the beginning of Broken Toys, Clementine has the choice of interrogating Abel in a good cop, bad cop way. Ruby being the good cop, since she has no vendetta against the Delta, and Willy being the bad cop, seeking revenge for Mitch's death. Clementine will have to side with one of the two. The children will be informed of Delta's location and use Abel as a bargaining chip (similar to Michonne) in exchange for their friends. They'll be held a gunpoint by Lilly, Sullene, Dorian and the other raiders. Omar, Aasim and Violet/Louis will be brought out, tied up, gagged, beaten and God knows what else. The trade won't end well and a shootout will begin. A few characters will die (including Abel) and the survivors will have to flee. This is where Asha, Jill and Michael come in. I see them as the Abraham, Eugene and Rosita of the game. Clementine and the survivors will encounter the three and will initially distrust them. However, Clem will convince them to join her group, defeat Lilly and escape onto the water. Clementine will bond with the three and the group will find the ship. They'll then set sail until they're attacked by Lilly and the Delta. A fight will ensue on the ship. Some characters will die (including Rosie) and Clementine will have another "Who to Save?" choice between Omar and Aasim (Save Aasim!). Whoever she saves will escape the ship with her along with any other survivors. The ship will sink and Clementine, AJ, Omar/Aasim and the others (if there are any) will reach shore. Walkers will attack them and Clementine will unexpectedly get bit.
Damn
+Griffin Bohan Well, there are only four episodes this season. Anything can happen.
+Griffin Bohan You're right. Do you have any theories on what could happen?
Jayton S. AJ gets bit.
+Brian McAndrew Oh no! I hope that doesn't happen!
I just want Clementine to survive this and never die...with her, Aj and whoever you chose as her significant other...telltale enjoys killing our favourite characters T.T
Me too
And telltale is dead now
@@ajxx9987 karma maybe?
Poppy Anus Mcanus what about if you never chose a significant other?
@@Coolrh13 if you don't then you don't, I just want her to be aLiVE
The “Tally” achievement at the end of Ep3, paired with the “sneaky” achievement beforehand, has me to believe clem gets captured and a timeskip occurs where she counts how long she’s been kept captive
I've had an idea that the Sneaky achievement has something to do with you controlling James, having him lead a horde through the camp as he looks for Clem to bust out, and not getting spotted by any people. The Tally achievement does indicate she gets captured or hands herself over or something. IMO, it'd be fucking amazing to go wandering around the area 'distracting' walkers into your targets while you look for her (and maybe find her hat).
Or maybe you're AJ possibly following James' lead or using what Clem taught him to rescue her?
Possibly so. Should be hopefully be cool either way I hope.
That'd be neat. Or another possible thing is Louis and AJ team up to get her.
10:20 could be Louis or violet’s death :(
... WELP TIME TO LEAVE VIOLET. (jk i like Violet but i like *LOUIS* more.)
sorry I like Louis. But i prefer Violet.
I love Clem and violet. Louis is okay. Maybe the person she loves might die 😳 violet noooooo!!!!!
NOOOOOO I DON'T WANT VIOLET TO DIEEEEEEEE :((((((
They did say in the ama that there will be determinate characters so I wouldn't be surprised. I think it'll be Tenn though..
"You and me, came full circle"
That line supports your theory. They came full circle to where Clem's journey began. Maybe that means they'll go back to the ruins? Very low chance although, and not alot of evidence towards it.
I got a bigger theory... *WILL THERE BE A SECRET EPISODE 5?!?!?!?!*
You know, I'm pretty they planned for an episode 5. The files seem to hint towards an episode 5 'framework' but considering Telltale are gone and Skybound probably don't want to pay for more than they have to... it's not going to happen.
I hope there will be a secret episode 5 or a dlc
Well i thougt so too, i remember just after episode one realese there was 4 selectable episodes and one without name and background, and when episode 2 got realesed that section is gone :/
Detroit Become The Walking Dead yeah I’d like that too her returning to the delta for It to be overrun by walkers
@@V1l17sliar
Your videos are so interesting, I need more theories and unused assets!
Did anyone else notice that treehouse in Tenn's drawing, *COINCIDENCE, I THINK NOT!*
Holy crap this got highlighted and not SmacknPie's... That's amazing!
The plot thickens! Perhaps I was right the entire time... it just got scrapped. Watch my TFS Original Story video for an update.
18th August 2019 update: Yep, it was confirmed a recent AMA with a ttg employee that this was the original ending and was indeed scrapped.
Looking back at some of the people calling it bullshit is funny in retrospect.
I get more excited when you post a video more than I do telltale
Oh yeah man a 12 minute video from you. Your videos are high quality - kinda relaxing - walking dead stuff!
Ok, so here is what I think will happen in Broken toys and my theories for each achievement.
You use Abel to get directions to Delta, then, you have the choice of killing him, or sparing him and taking him with you back to Delta. Willy try's to convince you to kill him to avenge Mitch, while other members of the group don't want you to kill him (Mercy Achievement). This will work as sort of a Max situation from season 3, where if you spare Max, he helps you later on, but if you kill him, it works against you. Then, as you stop to rest for the night, you have a bonding moment with everyone and talk about how they got to a school for troubled youth in the first place. You then, have an option to sleep with the group, which they encourage you to do (Nightlight achievement) or, stay up and keep watch and make sure Abel doesn't escape (if you choose to keep him) or you don't get attacked (All-seeing achievement). Then, the next morning you wake up, you need to eat, and without "Chef Omar" and his cooking skills, you are forced to find your own food, so there might be a cut scene where you try different foods in the wilderness to see if they are edible or not, and if you choose to do this, Ruby will recall the time you tried to eat a mushroom in the green house (Did you lick it? Achievement). Then, you will be reaching the end of the journey to finding Delta, where you may decide to distance yourself from your love interest (Louis or Violet), from either Minnie coming into the picture if you pick Violet or you distancing yourself because of Louis wanting to take it slow because he is still traumatised after Marlon's death (Personal space Achievement).And finally, at the end of the episode, when you reach Delta, you get a choice either to approach Delta sneakily, and secretly try and rescue Aasim, Omar and Louis/Violet (As a mouse achievement), or, give yourself up to Delta in exchange for taking Aasim, Omar and Louis/Violet back, and try and escape from inside Delta by yourself, but you are forced to stay in there for a certain amount of days from the plan to be executed perfectly (Tally Achievement). While either sneaking around or in captivity, you run into Minnie and Asha, and then, the episode will leave us on the cliff hanger of "Will Minnie and Asha help you?".
I'd also like to point out that Sophie (the other twin) has hardly been mentioned, this is really suspicious to me, i think it means in the war between Delta and the other group, she may have died, because not even Lilly mentioned her when describing Minnie's new life, or maybe she didn't want to give in to Delta and wanted to go back, so Delta killed her to prove a point to Minnie that they're stronger than the Ericson's school and would kill her if she didn't cooperate or would die if she went back.
Thats my theory. Thanks if you made it through all that.
(I have copied and pasted my theories on other walking dead: final season inspired videos)
Pretty interesting theory! They recently stated that depending on who you go with their are more branching paths so I could definitely see this being the case. But I can't ignore the boat connection that's been made from both the menu slide/concept art so it has to fit in somewhere. I definitely think Sophie died in the community war and the reason Minerva did not try to escape is to avenge her sister. Or something like that. It'll be interestingt to see how it all develops.
HOW DOES THING ONLY HAVE TWO LIKES. you should totally make video.
My god, I had the same theory but of course I was too worried about messing up my game somehow to go digging through the files. Just the title of 'Take us back' had me convinced. Good video man :P
I just want Clem to go to Savannah to find Lee’s body
Me too and gosh that'll be an emotional scene, she'll cry alot and so will I
Thats fucking retarded. Its been over half a decade
The body will be nothing but bones and decay
Just Haze not if you choose not to kill him, he would be a walker
@@marrowec.373 ...Made of bones and decay.
I believe it will be a hallucinations like in Machionne, otherwise it seems unnecessary to go back there as a whole, especially with the new crew. This theory is excellent and I have full belief it will come true, though as a hallucination form. Lee might also be in her hallucination or in a separated flashback which is already confirmed. Good job dude, keep up the good work.
A hallucination scene would make sense! I think that's what will actually happen.
Omg tears were almost shed, idek why but just the commentary and background music was just so fitting AAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
My guess for Timb Bomb is AJ does something that Clem has to cover up or Clem has to hide a crime from AJ.
I hope he doesn't murder another kid from the school.
Your soundtrack: felt like a cross between Akira Yamaoka mixed with Towa Tai and some Ringo Sheena about to show up. Good stuff!
I might have to give those artists a listen!
my theory:
she will lose everything and trace her steps or live the rest of her life in her in the last home she had knowing life is about living as best as you can and she will never join a group, knowing death will happen whether or not she tries to save them
hope in hopelessness
That's quite a depressing ending. I don't think that'll happen, they'll give Clementine a good ending before the series wraps up. That's my guess, anyway.
InColdBlood you think so I really hope so
Great theory. I inferred she would wind up at her old house because of episode 4's name "Take Us Back"
The season has already been rewritten once, together with every other TWD season except the first, if Clementine was meant to
have a determinant death originally, I can guarantee Skybound will rewrite that so that she doesn't die no matter what, I believe this to be the case because Robert Kirkman has said that he doesn't want Clementine and Rick to die in the same year, and that he wouldn't mind adding Clementine to his comics... oh god please no don't bring Clem into his shitty comics Clem has been through enough.
And about Clementine returning home, Yeah I've heard people speculating about that, people claim that she will return home and put down all her collectibles inside her house, hence the achievement "Home At Last" like you said.
What do you think will happen to Clementine? Those 4 optional achievements hint that she and AJ will both be determinant.
Robert Kirkman is awful, he's one of the reasons why ANF was so bad. When ANF got rewritten, he stole the original idea for ANF for his comics... he got credit for something a few old writers at Telltale made.
I don't think the possibility of her dying was ever going to happen after A New Frontier. They fucked up too much and they kinda owe it to people to not kill her off. But these are Telltale writers we're talking about so anything is possible lol. I'm like 95% sure they won't kill her. As for AJ, I think they might make his fate determinant.
I heard, season 2 was actually suppose to be alot darker, in the previews of the episode, she was walking ALONE on the road, mean she was walking alone, even heard that you were able to commit suicide.. yeah.
FakeNinja what was the original idea for ANF?
The original story for ANF was written by the only remaining season 1 writers left at Telltale. The New Frontier was actually called "The Marauders", a cult that tried to establish a new world order by enslaving people and taking over territory, their slaves were marked with the brand that we see in ANF (The Capricorn Zodiac Symbol). The Marauders used a slaughterhouse to imprison and tortue their slaves, and also to store up walkers. Javier and Clementine would both get imprisoned in the slaughterhouse and would be forced to work together to escape and to rescue their loved ones (Kenny/Jane, AJ and Mariana).
Thanks to Kevin Bruner's terrible leadership, these season 1 writers got moved to other projects and instead some new unexperienced writers was put to work on ANF which ruined the story, the last remaining season 1 writers left the company shortly after and Robert Kirkman then introduced "A new world order" in his comics... what a crazy coincidence right?
Tile_roadDamageClemHouse -Yes that does seem like pretty solid evidence.
I think they said that while Episode 3, was unfinished, it was in a semi-playable state.They also apparently had all the voice acting done. So I suspect that this episode will mostly be as it was intended.
Now there might be more divergence for the last episode, but we cant know until it comes out, and the former developers explain how it differs.
You got me convinced when you showed Tennessee’s drawing
Omggg ur so amazing this vid was amazing ^^ but im wondering, there are so much boat related things like you said, like getting a boat is gonna happen fast, my question is, does that mean we are not gonna resque the kids? I mean thats stupid to think, the ending of ep 2 and the minerva concept art are just hinting towards that we are, so i was thinking, maybe after we resque the kids we try to run away from lily and shit and end up on the shore or something and then see that boat? And maybe just maybe we are ineed gonna travel to Clems house with it, but that seems to easy, Telltale never keeps this many people alive, so i think everyone is gonna die and then you have too choose between violet and Louis, I can just picture an ending in my head where You Aj and the person you chose are standing tongether, holding hands and then maybe we will get a voiceover of Clem saying this is the end, this is our little family now, we only have each other left, and we will fight to protect each other, and then they just stand or walk off into the distance y'know?
OMG this comment is waaaay to long xd sorry but this vid just really got me thinking, you should make more of these ^^ anyways thx for listening byee
Ps where did you get that scene from where you can hear Clem sing to AJ
I did say that in the video about saving the kids 2:25 but I also said I'm not sure if they'll be able to save everyone or if they get caught or whatever. The Clem/AJ video is here: ua-cam.com/video/OVAQrE5A5sI/v-deo.html
Yeah how I know Telltale....they let her die!
This theory gave me chills. Nice one!
Your display picture made me laugh, thanks.
What scares me is, there isn't a Rosie achievement in episode 4.................
Oh yeah... I didn't realise that until you pointed it out. I don't think they'll kill her though.
holy shit i hope not. they already killed a dog...
Holy fucking shit.
InColdBlood NO THEY CAN NOT, TOO MANU DOGS ARE DYING IN MY LIFE RN PLS NO
This theory is good and all but this is how I think her story arc will end she sadly will end up dying along with everyone else. I think "Home At Last" means that she'll be in heaven and finally be with her family and Lee again and everyone who helped and took care of her along the way. I feel like this will be the ending since the afterlife has been mentioned a lot in episode 1 by Tenn and I think was mentioned once in episode 2. People might think she might go back home where it all started but then what? She just sits down on a couch and doesn't have to worry about surviving anymore? If there were more seasons coming up then yeah let that be the ending for season 4 but there isn't anymore seasons after this one and what better way to end her story with her finally being able to see her family see Lee the man who protected and taught her about survival see Kenny the other man who protected her and wanted what was best for her see Katjaa and Duck the people who always made sure she was happy when she was a little girl living in a cruel world see Ben the teen who also made sure she was happy even if he did screw up a few times in the end it didn't stop him from looking for Clem along with Omid and Christa home for her as a little girl was this group and not only will she be with them she'll also be with the troubled youth group since we all know they'll probably die too. Everyone just enjoying the afterlife together
This would be both a sad and kinda happy ending, but it would make sense (giving the story closure and all). It would probably be satisfying (and emotional) enough for the fanbase, with a reunion with past characters in heaven. Also maybe telltale was hinting at this with Tenn suggesting that there's something good waiting on the other side.
Yeah
Tenn telling us that death isn't scary because there's something good in the afterlife is telltale telling us that Clem dying isn't a bad thing because she won't have to worry anymore and she will be reunited with the others...
I also think, since it's the final season, we will get an ending that does finish her story. And I can't see that with an ending other than death.
i hope so
in season 3 clem was 13 and aj was around 2 or 3, 3 years later in season 4 shes 16 and aj would be around 6 or 5
lee better returnes, my hope is that its not in a flasback but in an sort of dream where lee will reunite with clem and see how she is now. i hope they will give her a good ending. thx for the vid
Well.. If clem dies. She could hallucinate about Lee
Shit you were right
Well you got what you wished for
Zainiack23 the best possible ending
Also, James asked Clem where she came from, telling her in one of his responses that it matters to him where they came from.
My theories on Episode 4's achievements:
You and Me: Clem and AJ are the sole survivors by the end of the season or Clem remembers all of the good (and bad) times with AJ.
Goodbye: Clem and AJ leave the boarding school or Clem says goodbye to a character who's dying/dead.
Promise: Clem promises the boarding school kids that she won't leave. In the PC version, Clem trusts Louis, Violet, Tenn, Aasim, Ruby, Willy, Omar, or possibly a new or returning character to look after AJ when she's gone.
Lost and Found: Clem gets separated from the group and determinately finds her hat or she dies and AJ, one of the kids, or the new/returning characters find it. In the PC version, Clem murders someone (possibly Lilly or a brainwashed Minerva) and hides it from everyone.
I think Goodbye and Promise are choice related achievements, with Clem choosing to stay at the school or leave.
I don't know if it's actualy going to play out like this but I don't see anything wrong with this theory, it could happen for all we know.
As long as she doesn’t die, I’ll be happy.
Your theory seems pretty reasonable.
i love your videos they make me more hype then the actual trailers
The true ending: If you cut off Lee’s arm, Didn’t handcuff him to the radiator, and didn’t shoot him.
You find out that Lee isn’t dead, he went looking for the group until eventually he went back to Clemtines house and began living there in a small hope his girl would come back.
Making sure your choices mattered.
I am so nervous for episode 4
*NOSTALGIC ENDING - How cool would it be if you went back through like the farm and the motel and the train and everywhere you were in the very first season, all to make it back to the high-way and go through the woods to find the police car from where Lee crashed and go over her back yard fence into her house and she gets bit, climbs up her tree house for safety, remembering her journey as she turns. That would be really cool
What do you guys thinks gonna happen to willy
A. Die
B. Become a savage
C. Somehow actually becomes a relevant character and survives till the end
C
A
Thinking about going all the way back to the beginning makes me want to cry
Finally someone made a video with including achivements
Nice theory! James also has the conversation about being from Georgia!
I hear a theory that if your with violet, clem and her will rebuild the school but! If your with louis, clem and him go back to clem's house. JUST A THEORY!! but i hope this is true!
You think so? It seems to damage and burned down to repair. But anything could happen.
Amazing theory dude. Earned a new sub ma dude!
Really nice video mate, really enjoyed it and it's a pretty plausible theory, aye. I got some constructive criticism for ya though for future videos: you sound pretty quiet in this video, and it would have made some jokes in your script sound a lot smoother if you spoke with more confidence. It's YOUR channel and people come here to listen to YOU. Try and work on your vocal projection. But other than that, great video. I'm excited to see more of your content.
Also the Pete Hawley joke was bloody brilliant
Thanks for the feedback man, the voice over stuff is definitely something I need to work on. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and sorry I didn't reply sooner. UA-cam has a shit notification system.
@@InColdBloodTTG Ye I'm glad you found the time to reply. No worries about it being late, UA-cam's notif system is dogshit - I was trying to organise an interview for a documentary I'm working on and had nothing to contact this person other than UA-cam's comments and we both lost track of everything. But aye cheers for actually reading the comment, I like your content and wanted to leave a comment that actually held some merit
That would mean.. It all comes FULL circle!!
I know people don't want to see clem die in the ending but I think that would make a perfect ending. Everything comes full circle with her going through what happened to Lee.
But don't you think Clan will die at such a young age.,
But don't you think Clem will die at such a young age?
So... what will happen to your channel since telltale... you know... DIED.
P.S. Take Us Back is a song name. THE song, that played at the end of the season 1. Author of the song is Alela Diane.
There's still more videos I want to make. But yeah, I'm not really sure what to do after it's all done.
@@InColdBloodTTG Please don't shut your channel down, you still can use your GODLIKE skills of finding things on other telltale-like games, for example Life is Strange, The Council...
@@InColdBloodTTG well. Maybe skybound will continue some of the telltale series.
Or you could try to do videos on older telltale games/other point and click adventure game.
anyone else find it funny that clem can kill everyones 2 favorite characters? kenny and lee.
If it really is true we will go back to Clem's House, maybe they will use the Sandra Flashback that they didn't use as a part of Clem reminiscing her memories there?
I didn't think about that! That would actually be pretty cool.
@@InColdBloodTTG
I mean, the audio clips and such are already made why did they scrapped it? It would be interesting to see the apocalypse start especially on Clem's perspective
Damn, you make some valid points. I'm excited.
My theory is that Clem dies, the same way Lee died. It'll be like Lee and Clem when she was little, Clem leaves AJ alone in a post-apocalyptic world.
About the time bomb achievement... In the German translation Louis referred aj as a ticking "time bomb" in episode 2.
Time Bomb can be referred to more than just that. Something getting bit. Someone dead, but not as a walker.
Great theory! I didn’t think about that. I really missed your videos :-) Do you have a plan to do videos about deleted scenes from The Final Season? I hope you will :-) I really loved your videos about deleted scenes !
No words can describe how sad clem s death will be
I'd just cry nonstop, I'll being crying for years no lie
I loved the theory, i imagine that they indeed go to around Clem's house was. Maybe that they send her and AJ for a mission? I imagine them being on a mission around there, and they are doing well and Clem gets bit by a zombie. (Well Clem said she will protect AJ like Lee protected her so why not die similar to Lee?) If Clem gets attention of the zombies on herself and lets AJ run away, and she manages to kinda escape, and hide inside a house. When she looks around, the realizes it's her house. Memories are coming back to her. Maybe she sits down on a couch, and looks around imagining her Parents thanking Lee for protecting her, just sitting around her. She gets a gun, puts it to her head, closes her eyes and says "We'll see eachother very shortly.." and shots which results in her dying.
My theory is bad as hell qwq But i might kinda doubt it at the same time as the "Home At Last" now says "Placed all Episode Four collectables"
I've noticed that the texture called tile_roadDamagedClemHouse has got these two lines in the middle of the road while on the screen of her house's neighbourhood I can't spot any. Or it might be just a different road close to her house. I don't know.
I also think similar texture (or even the same) was used at the very beginning of the first episode when we see Clem driving a car. I suppose those two black holes mean that there's some hole in a road or something like that.
Yeah, the reason the texture is in the demo and in episode 1 is because it's used for other things in the game. The name of the texture is a big reason as to why I believe the theory to be true, especially when they said that they worked on the ending first. It would make sense that the textures from the ending are used in earlier episodes.
I agree with you, just noticed that the road on the screenshot doesn't have those two lines in the middle as the texture mentioned in the video (might be developer's mistake or something just like that). Though I think that all the proofs you've given have proven to me that the game might take place in Clem's house, too. I acutally started to think this way when I saw The Walking Dead: The Final Season announcement trailer and at the beginning of that video Clem's treehouse was to be seen.
Seeing as Season 4 is supposed to be a huge throwback to Season 1, I think it would be interesting if the last Episode ends with Clementine dying in the exact same manner that Lee did at the end of Season 1, and just overall having it be a very sad trip down memory lane, and there are two reasons I think it's possible for that to happen, the first being that Lilly even says to Clementine that she'll die protecting AJ, and the second being that Episode 4 is titled 'Take Us Back' which is the name of the song that plays in the end credits of Season 1, the point is that there's too much foreshadowing to rule that out as a possibility.
Derrick Marler yeah that’s exactly what I thought
But Lily also said Clem would die...if she repeated Lee's mistakes. Clem is not Lee. It's going to be tough, but I think Clem is going to do something different.
@@BlackWingedSeraphX I didn't say it would happen, I was just saying that it's a possibility.
I just want Clem, AJ, Tenn and whichever romantic option you chose to survive the game and get a good ending
Why would Ckementine go back? she has so many bad memories of Atlanta. I just don't see why she would come back.
I think she has bad memories everywhere. But at least at her home, she grew up happy with her family for 8 years. Logically though, yeah it doesn't make much sense. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
InColdBlood It would make more sense if she came back to Savannah to bury Lee or kill him depending on if you left or shot him.
She had more bad memories of Savannah than Atlanta. She spent 8 happy years of childhood with her parents, of course she would miss her home and the time when everything was fine. But in Savannah she saw her parents as Walkers and Lee died on the same day, all of her hopes died in Savannah. So to me it makes much more sense going home than to Savannah.
That Promise Achievement Just Killed Me You Know Somethings Gonna Be Off In That Episode. If Clem Dies. We Riot.
I disagree. Although I don’t believe it’s a flashback, I don’t believe she’ll go back either. I think that Clem could have another nightmare and experience it inside her house. The broken roads might be there to make the dream scarier along with maybe the house being in ruins or something.
Definitely another possibility! What about the boat though? She's going to travel somewhere by river, but where?
InColdBlood haven’t thought about that, maybe the delta camp is far away?
That's interesting, maybe she'll dream of her and Lee, I'd love that
I swear they better not make us kill Clem with AJ, just to try make ties with Season 1.
I think the home at last achievement is referencing ericson? good theory tho
Totally possible for this to be the case.
Honestly, I think the Promise/Better Life descriptions are referring to the obligatory end fight at the end of every season, that Clementine can/does end up breaking.
This made me think about something. I wonder if Clementine has ever told AJ about that fight. How much does AJ know about Clementine's past? Does he know who is father is or why he was called AJ? I guess he's a bit too young to understand the significance.
I think this could be a possible ending too the series like the finale choice to visit her old house or not or maybe to live their they said that multiple ending would happen depending on your choices like where you setup Base and where you live forever and who comes and lives with you the bare minimum living alone with Aj in where ever you choose to live maybe that’s too much to except but it might happen and this is theory a never mind I won’t make that joke but anyway that’s just what I think
What if Kenny comes back? If you stay in Wellington, he will just leave and we won’t see him die.
kadensoi nooooo :( the choices don’t matter :(
kadensoi well yeah kinda. I was thinking he could come back because when you were choosing what did you choose before the start of Final Season they really focused on the Kenny Jane situation.
kadensoi oh yeah you’re right. If you leave them you’ll lose a finger
In the trainstation you can see Atlanta,Wellington and Prescott etc. written on the board so she might be still in Georgia
And „Take Us Back“ (the title of EP4) is the song that plays in the credits after „No Time Left“(S1 EP5)
10:20!!!! If it means that Clem will die and AJ will say goodbye to her, then I am done! I am scared, cuz telltale is good at this! ._.
I think in that ending aj will die
Another subtle foreshadowing I realized just now is that in Episode 1, clem talks with brody about where you would want to go if you could, with violet dismissing it. Episode 2, violet and clem look up in the stars and again, traveling somewhere is brought up with less negativity from her about it. Perhaps going to clems house will be a determinant ending if you romance violet? Or she supports clems desire to go to her house?
Very well thought out theory. I think if we are returning to Clementine's original home that basically confirms she will die in her tree house, this fulfils the full circle telltale are going for to finish her story which I do believe is the right thing to do. Lee started in handcuffs and died in handcuffs, Clementine starts in her tree house and dies in her tree house? I do think you're onto something with this, hope to see more walking dead content from you dude.
I could see that happening. Thanks for the comment.
Well in season1 you dont have to put on the handcuffs you can choose. He can either die with handcuffs or without handcuffs.
How do you think she would die in her tree house?
It’s plausible, but when I saw the boat made me think that they go to Oceanside.
I find this really interesting, especially episode 4 being called "Take Us Back". I always thought of it meaning somebody forgiving Clementine and AJ and never even considered it literally being taken back.
Nice, a new upload!
I think Louis or Violet will be a playable character in Episode Four and MAYBE Episode Three, rather than AJ. I think we may be able to switch between them for scenes, and when they're together, switch when you want to.
Interesting. But I don't think they'll do that. They want to keep every choice firmly in Clementine's shoes. At least, that's the idea.
How I would like season 4 to end is Clementine and AJ bringing there group to Richmond to help fight off Lilly’s group. They win and Clem and AJ live happily ever after in Richmond but we all know it won’t happen.
Well lilly's group is fighting against another big comunity.. I think that the group is richmond
mati :3 But it was confirmed before episode 1 the Garcia’s would not be a part of the final season
Maybe in a flashback, it could be her just revisiting between season 2-3 depending on the choices you made possibly?
I aint playing ep 4 bro i just cant
"take us back" is also s1's credits song
You should a video for unsude/cut content at the end of season 4
It would be 2 minutes long. There isn't really any cut content to show you except for one thing that I might make a short video on.
edit: Shit, sorry I misread your comment. If there's cut stuff in episode 3 and 4 I will definitely make a video on it!
InColdBlood thankyou!! Your content is great
Hey man loved the video! Now that episode 3 is out I would love to hear your thoughts and any cut content u have found :)
Another theory: what if this "ship crew" is actually part of the community that the Delta is at war with?
I think "Take Us Back" is a reference to the end credit music of the final episode of season 1 which was also titled "Take Us Back"
What if they meet the boat group from the Michonne DLC? Like Pete, Oak, and Siddiq? That would be a long shot, but really cool. Also one more thing, when you tell James that you’re from Georgia, and he says “long way from home.” So it implies that you’re pretty far away from Georgia, so I’m not sure how far away, but it seems far. So the evidence that is showed is very convincing, but maybe they’ll find a new house closer to Ericson’s, and stay there. Maybe they decide that the schools to dangerous and run away, maybe my brain is just making up shit, but going back to Georgia? That seems like a little bit of a long shot.
Or it could be the Delta is a referring to the boat screenshot. Lilly's does not have a camp but a river boat.
By the way... *Im not liking the achievement names* ... :/
Idk about the road texture, neither the road outside of Clems house, nor the highway that Lee crashed on had a similar texture. Maybe it's a flash forward and she ends up staying in some other overgrown house.
Looking at the road from the start if E1, its the same type of road with the same lane dividers. That with the foliage and other textures makes me think these are from the Train Station
In Tenn's drawing there is a treehouse and that is where Lee found her...i never thought of this theory but i think its certainly up there as a possibility. Maybe there is a base or something in Atlanta that the Boat Crew tells her about and maybe the base happens to be in the same area as Clem's House.
People say that Clem won't die, or that she is going to die . . . But that's the beauty of multiple endings! One ending she can die and happily join Lee, Kenny and past allies in the afterlife, even a reunion with her parents. Sad yet happy ending, or other endings where she survived and happily lived with her ship-mate or her and AJ alone, finding a permanent group to call home or maybe the zombie apocalypse finally ended out of nowhere! I doubt it but multiple endings can happen a lot, especially for Clem's story.
Omg I’m hyped now
For what reason would they go back to clems house though I can only see that being a flashback or a dream with we're she first met lee.