Right to the point amazing video, not a single bit of useless filler- steps laid out that i woulda never figured out because i dont do body alignments. SO glad i found this.
My first time here and just in time too. I am trying to help my son with his fender problem, and you show me some great examples that i've never seen before
Glad you enjoyed it :) My dad had an old air grinder and he could make it sound like a car shifting gears. That thing sounded so cool. He passed away and I don't know who ended up with it - it sort of disappeared :)
Doing a drivers side fender on my 1995 Sierra. This was very helpful. I did find the door hinge pins were badly worn, causing the door gap to be a problem. Picked up new pins today.
Thanks,wind sprung hinge and gap between door and fender too tight.being a extremely windy day wife admitted it door may have been sprung.no big deal but the front hinges are spot welded on from what I see.moving fender forward 2 mil.will solve my issue .glad that the 3 bolt design for fender mounts hasn't changed much .
Is the top of the turn signal area on the fender supposed to line up with the bottom of the hood? Is it just because it's an aftermarket part that it doesn't?
Yeah but what about when you DON'T like the gap? How do you approach fit and fitment when it doesn't line up from the rip? Edit: regarding 1:18 ... specifically when it doesn't line up well from the first bolt against the column
If your body mounts aren't rusted, the frame is straight it will always line up - promise. If however, it doesn't, you'll have to use force, That means fender shims, come alongs, porta powers, jacks, hammers, drill bigger holes, etc. You'll have to do what ever it takes to get it to line up. I ran into that exact problem recently and the cab mount was rusted - gone! We jacked up the cab where is was supposed to be, literally welded it in place and the fender gaps were perfect. A new mount would be the best but it was just a truck for fun so....
@@LakesideAutobody thank you I'm rebuilding my truck after a low speed front end collision with a newer truck that sits higher (my truck sits factory height for 2wd) and the fever is close... within 1/8 of an inch but it's not congruent on each side (the non wrecked side) and I've never done this before so I'm curious if I should just be happy with that I got and consider it a win that a truck ruled "totalled" by insurance was just pieced back together (no frame damage only cosmetic)
Perfection can be an enemy when it comes to getting jobs done in a body shop. Sometimes you have to accept the best you can do. If it's close, I'd be real happy with it. 👍😊
Hi Jerry. Hope your AMC is going well. My '72 Monte is just about done. What a job. I need to push my front left fender back about 1/4" or less. The fender has never been removed. Do you think it's possible to loosen all the bolts, not remove anything, and move it a smidge? I can't find info anywhere.
It's possible. You might have to gently pry it back somehow without denting it or damaging it. Sometimes you can take out a fender bolt along the hood, lift the fender metal a bit so there's a gap, stick a screwdriver in there and pry it back. You can pry against the bumper, even pull up to a wall and use a jack against the wall to help push it back a bit. Let me know what you end up doing and how it turns out. Enjoy the rest of the week DIO :)
Helllooo. I have a gap from the door hooking INTO the fender and i highly doubt the door is bent BUT the fender can never be moved over again enough to align the gap in the middle from the bend back of the fender. The fender gap is fine at the bottom and top and gapped quite shitty bad in the middle mostly. If i just get a junkyard fender and repaint it (i know you cant physically see my issue) is it safe to say the door is WAY stronger and most likely the fender will line up fine? Ive done car work for 12 years and been painting for 3 yrs now but I've never done body work other than bondo and sanding my own car and i never assume to be good at autobody work which is a whole new misery for me :) Trying to learn something i cant do easily is not inspiring anymore.
If I understand correctly - the door pushed the fender in? If that's the case, the cure is to pry that fender back out. Don't be afraid to beat it around to get it in place. If the gap at the top and bottom are good, I would muscle it into place and worry about the damage to the panel later. Rule of thumb: Get the gaps right then fix the damage on the panel. Hope that helps - ask again if not - JV
@@LakesideAutobody Ok so where the gap is do you mean to PULL THAT gap section TOWARDS the door with a prybar or whatever tool? I've already put my hand behind the fender and made the fender flush with the door again but the middle gap you're saying pull it towards the door right? Sorry its hard to envision though text.
You're actually not bending or distorting the fender - it's just that sometimes you just don't have enough strength to push or pull it - easier with tools like porta powers and come alongs :)
Try loosening the fender bolts and pulling the fender forward or wedging something between the door and the fender while the bolts are loose - then tighten them. Let me know how it goes for you :)
First check if the door hinges are "toast". If so, that means the front of the door is low. If that's not the case, sometimes a fender can be bolted into place and bent/pushed down if it is a bit flimsy. Last resort is to smack the mounts down a bit but that's hardly ever the case. Let me know what you end up doing :)
Yes but it's a good idea to take the time to scuff and paint the back side. I believe the factories dip the vehicle in a bath of primer or coating of some type with a the opposite charge of the car so that the primer goes absolutely everywhere. That's why sometimes the original lasts longer than the replacements. Just my thoughts though - not totally sure on that. They always fit well though so... Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks , Yes I'll do the back sides as well also I'm getting the ford primer and paint for cars year but if fenders come primed I'll put more primer on THANKS.
@@MrRockydee07 You're welcome. If they come primed, all you have to do is check them to make sure everything is coated with the primer they put on, scuff it with a red scuff pad and paint. If there are bare spots, you might want to hit them again to make sure.
If the fender is aligned with the door and you can't adjust it up, and there's no adjustment you can get out of the hinge bolts you'll have to bend it. I actually have climbed up on a chair near the edge of the hood and, starting gently, pushed (bent) it down with my butt to prevent a dented hood :)
@@LakesideAutobody if I put a block of wood underneath the hood where it’s level with fender on that side and try to push down on the rear edge would that work
@@IM-nh8hn That can work, but be careful as the hood may give way as the edge buckles - just give it little compressions like CPR on the rear edge. Good thinking IM :)
I'm sorry but I forgot where I got it. I know I purchased it off the internet but can't remember where. I've had very good luck with Chevy replacement fenders though so - I wouldn't worry about it not fitting right - they're right on nowadays.
@@LakesideAutobody Okay, thanks for the answer. On passenger side i have a AP marked fender, that fits quite well, but on the driver side's Tong Yang marked fender didn't fit at all.. So i have to try something else, my options are now classic industries OER or some CHL marked..
@@anttisoininen2452 That's good to know - thanks for the information. Sounds like classic industries may fit well - but that's just a guess because of the name.
In short put the hood back on in the same "marks" that it was before. You can use body shims to raise or lower certain spots. Push or pull one way or the other. There's more to it so I'll do a video on that very soon as I have to do it soon on a car :)
ive got a car that was in a collision and the hood hinges were bent, the fender was ripped out, i got my new fender, and new hinges problem is i dont know alignments for any of the initial setup. every thing on the front end is out of alignment, the fenders, the hood, the hood hinges and brackets, and theres no easy way to square them up since the hood hinges are always covered by the fender cowls so you cannot tighten them unless the fenders are off the car. so basically at this point im lost as to where i should begin
@@LakesideAutobody they have slop in them forwards, backwards and side to side, you are supposed to put each hood hinge in place and then bolt it down. the problem is that the fenders then sit on top of them and block them from being adjusted further, so if you bolt them down, then put fenders on and then put a hood on to check the fitment, you cant adjust anything else beyond that point. its a terrible design and im not sure how i'll fix it.
@@Runescape. Get the hood aligned perfectly with the cowl, then mount the fenders. Or take a look at the old hinges and see where they were bolted (old paint should show) - put them there and forget it. Get the rest of the adjustment out of the top of the hinges that bolt to the hood. Keep asking ?s - we'll figure it out - no worries :)
Yeah thanks for the info on the bolts to do first. So none of the other bolts will move the panel correct? I am replacing and painting Metallic Silver for the base. then some metal flak fallowed with some House of Kolor Cobalt candy. Over the silver and flak. It should look sweet. But I need to make sure nothing else will move bend or cause and bowing on the panel. All of the body work must be perfect or it's not worth doing at all. This truck was my late brothers truck and it cost him his pinky finger. So I plan on taking good care of this old girl. next year I will be nickel plating and polishing engine parts. (Nickel won't rust like chrome) And I will be doing 100% of the work myself. I spray some cars when I was 17 to 20 yrs old. But I never replaced parts where I worked it was bondo. But this girl is not getting makeup, She getting the fountain of youth. cant wait to get Caroline on the road. I know my brother would love to see it once I get her done.
Once you have those three in - that's pretty much where it's staying. The others have to be put in before painting but won't change the gaps. Sorry to hear about your brother. Good luck on your project and let me know how it turns out - would love to see pictures too. Email is under the about tab on the main page - Jerry
Right to the point amazing video, not a single bit of useless filler- steps laid out that i woulda never figured out because i dont do body alignments. SO glad i found this.
Glad it helped - I try to keep the filler to a minimum :)
So far you're batting 1.000. What I like best about your videos is no BS, just pure information. Thanks.
I like no bs too - like in school - just tell me how to do it - give me the assignment - done. Glad you like the videos - have a great week
You saved me again. Every time I run into something isn't working out for us. You have it. Never thought of opening the hole a bit. Thank you again.
That's great to hear. Hope I can keep answering ?s for you :)
Pretty slick
Pure Gold. Best auto body tutorials on UA-cam...
Thanks - glad you enjoy them. I'll keep uploading new and different content.
@@LakesideAutobody Thank you...
My first time here and just in time too. I am trying to help my son with his fender problem, and you show me some great examples that i've never seen before
Glad to hear it - good luck on your project :)
I always liked the sound of an air rachet. Makes the work go so mach faster. Thanks for the video enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it :) My dad had an old air grinder and he could make it sound like a car shifting gears. That thing sounded so cool. He passed away and I don't know who ended up with it - it sort of disappeared :)
Doing a drivers side fender on my 1995 Sierra. This was very helpful. I did find the door hinge pins were badly worn, causing the door gap to be a problem. Picked up new pins today.
Nothing better than new pins and bushings :)
If only it were that easy on after market anybody could do it.
BEST VIDEO ON UA-cam ON HOW TO DO THIS THANK YOU!!!!
You're welcome Jean - have a good week my friend :)
Thanks friend, for sharing your knowledge. The explanation is clear, precise and concise.
You're welcome - have a good weekend :)
Outstanding! This what I'm having problems with on a 99 Ram fender. Thanks!
You're welcome - hope it helps
im having same issue on 1998 ram
Another great one Jerry. Keep them coming.
Thanks,wind sprung hinge and gap between door and fender too tight.being a extremely windy day wife admitted it door may have been sprung.no big deal but the front hinges are spot welded on from what I see.moving fender forward 2 mil.will solve my issue .glad that the 3 bolt design for fender mounts hasn't changed much .
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Wow! First video and I found exactly what I needed. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful video! Expert advice.
Thanks RW - have a good week :)
WOW THANK YOU!!!! This is so helpful
Glad it was helpful - thanks for the comment :)
Great job
Great video
Excellent advice. Thanks
Is the top of the turn signal area on the fender supposed to line up with the bottom of the hood? Is it just because it's an aftermarket part that it doesn't?
Made it look easy...have to wonder how the factory did it though 🤔
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Yeah but what about when you DON'T like the gap? How do you approach fit and fitment when it doesn't line up from the rip?
Edit: regarding 1:18 ... specifically when it doesn't line up well from the first bolt against the column
If your body mounts aren't rusted, the frame is straight it will always line up - promise. If however, it doesn't, you'll have to use force, That means fender shims, come alongs, porta powers, jacks, hammers, drill bigger holes, etc. You'll have to do what ever it takes to get it to line up. I ran into that exact problem recently and the cab mount was rusted - gone! We jacked up the cab where is was supposed to be, literally welded it in place and the fender gaps were perfect. A new mount would be the best but it was just a truck for fun so....
@@LakesideAutobody thank you I'm rebuilding my truck after a low speed front end collision with a newer truck that sits higher (my truck sits factory height for 2wd) and the fever is close... within 1/8 of an inch but it's not congruent on each side (the non wrecked side) and I've never done this before so I'm curious if I should just be happy with that I got and consider it a win that a truck ruled "totalled" by insurance was just pieced back together (no frame damage only cosmetic)
Perfection can be an enemy when it comes to getting jobs done in a body shop. Sometimes you have to accept the best you can do. If it's close, I'd be real happy with it. 👍😊
Hi Jerry. Hope your AMC is going well. My '72 Monte is just about done. What a job. I need to push my front left fender back about 1/4" or less. The fender has never been removed. Do you think it's possible to loosen all the bolts, not remove anything, and move it a smidge? I can't find info anywhere.
It's possible. You might have to gently pry it back somehow without denting it or damaging it. Sometimes you can take out a fender bolt along the hood, lift the fender metal a bit so there's a gap, stick a screwdriver in there and pry it back. You can pry against the bumper, even pull up to a wall and use a jack against the wall to help push it back a bit. Let me know what you end up doing and how it turns out. Enjoy the rest of the week DIO :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks, Jerry! You do the same.
Helllooo. I have a gap from the door hooking INTO the fender and i highly doubt the door is bent BUT the fender can never be moved over again enough to align the gap in the middle from the bend back of the fender. The fender gap is fine at the bottom and top and gapped quite shitty bad in the middle mostly. If i just get a junkyard fender and repaint it (i know you cant physically see my issue) is it safe to say the door is WAY stronger and most likely the fender will line up fine? Ive done car work for 12 years and been painting for 3 yrs now but I've never done body work other than bondo and sanding my own car and i never assume to be good at autobody work which is a whole new misery for me :) Trying to learn something i cant do easily is not inspiring anymore.
If I understand correctly - the door pushed the fender in? If that's the case, the cure is to pry that fender back out. Don't be afraid to beat it around to get it in place. If the gap at the top and bottom are good, I would muscle it into place and worry about the damage to the panel later. Rule of thumb: Get the gaps right then fix the damage on the panel. Hope that helps - ask again if not - JV
@@LakesideAutobody Ok so where the gap is do you mean to PULL THAT gap section TOWARDS the door with a prybar or whatever tool? I've already put my hand behind the fender and made the fender flush with the door again but the middle gap you're saying pull it towards the door right? Sorry its hard to envision though text.
Thanks for sharing .
You're welcome - glad you appreciate it
Doesn't forcing it in with a porta power cause phantom waves that come and go depending on ambient temperature causing metal shrinkage or expansion?
You're actually not bending or distorting the fender - it's just that sometimes you just don't have enough strength to push or pull it - easier with tools like porta powers and come alongs :)
Thanks from the 🇬🇧, ive just boufgt a salvage car the wing is tight on the door after a slight front knock, any advice?
Try loosening the fender bolts and pulling the fender forward or wedging something between the door and the fender while the bolts are loose - then tighten them. Let me know how it goes for you :)
@@LakesideAutobody will do thanks for taking the time to reply to me,
my fender is not lining up with the groove in the middle. it is too high compared to the door. How do I fix that?
First check if the door hinges are "toast". If so, that means the front of the door is low. If that's not the case, sometimes a fender can be bolted into place and bent/pushed down if it is a bit flimsy. Last resort is to smack the mounts down a bit but that's hardly ever the case. Let me know what you end up doing :)
Thanks for video , I'm doing fenders for the first time both frount fenders for my 2002 Mercury Sable , Are the after Markit ones any good .
Yes but it's a good idea to take the time to scuff and paint the back side. I believe the factories dip the vehicle in a bath of primer or coating of some type with a the opposite charge of the car so that the primer goes absolutely everywhere. That's why sometimes the original lasts longer than the replacements. Just my thoughts though - not totally sure on that. They always fit well though so... Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks , Yes I'll do the back sides as well also I'm getting the ford primer and paint for cars year but if fenders come primed I'll put more primer on THANKS.
@@MrRockydee07 You're welcome. If they come primed, all you have to do is check them to make sure everything is coated with the primer they put on, scuff it with a red scuff pad and paint. If there are bare spots, you might want to hit them again to make sure.
your hood latch is out of alignment.. the hood moves to the fender when you open it.
I'll check it out - thanks. Good idea for a video too.
Is there a way to lower the quarter panel an 1/8 by body line on my quarter panel sits higher than my door body line
Was the quarter replaced?
No it was not the door has new bushings and still no luck
How can I bend the rear edge of hood down on 02 crv. It’s sitting higher than rear edge of fender. Thanks
If the fender is aligned with the door and you can't adjust it up, and there's no adjustment you can get out of the hinge bolts you'll have to bend it. I actually have climbed up on a chair near the edge of the hood and, starting gently, pushed (bent) it down with my butt to prevent a dented hood :)
@@LakesideAutobody if I put a block of wood underneath the hood where it’s level with fender on that side and try to push down on the rear edge would that work
@@IM-nh8hn That can work, but be careful as the hood may give way as the edge buckles - just give it little compressions like CPR on the rear edge. Good thinking IM :)
I'm glad I bought oem lol
Why? ua-cam.com/video/idrLzsz2eLg/v-deo.html
What's the manufacturer of that replacement fender? Looks fit good with minor work..
I'm sorry but I forgot where I got it. I know I purchased it off the internet but can't remember where. I've had very good luck with Chevy replacement fenders though so - I wouldn't worry about it not fitting right - they're right on nowadays.
@@LakesideAutobody Okay, thanks for the answer. On passenger side i have a AP marked fender, that fits quite well, but on the driver side's Tong Yang marked fender didn't fit at all.. So i have to try something else, my options are now classic industries OER or some CHL marked..
@@anttisoininen2452 That's good to know - thanks for the information. Sounds like classic industries may fit well - but that's just a guess because of the name.
How do i align the hood
In short put the hood back on in the same "marks" that it was before. You can use body shims to raise or lower certain spots. Push or pull one way or the other. There's more to it so I'll do a video on that very soon as I have to do it soon on a car :)
ive got a car that was in a collision and the hood hinges were bent, the fender was ripped out, i got my new fender, and new hinges problem is i dont know alignments for any of the initial setup. every thing on the front end is out of alignment, the fenders, the hood, the hood hinges and brackets, and theres no easy way to square them up since the hood hinges are always covered by the fender cowls so you cannot tighten them unless the fenders are off the car. so basically at this point im lost as to where i should begin
When you bolt the hinges to the cowl - w/o the hood or fenders on, do they have any adjustment or are they fixed?
@@LakesideAutobody they have slop in them forwards, backwards and side to side, you are supposed to put each hood hinge in place and then bolt it down. the problem is that the fenders then sit on top of them and block them from being adjusted further, so if you bolt them down, then put fenders on and then put a hood on to check the fitment, you cant adjust anything else beyond that point. its a terrible design and im not sure how i'll fix it.
@@Runescape. Get the hood aligned perfectly with the cowl, then mount the fenders. Or take a look at the old hinges and see where they were bolted (old paint should show) - put them there and forget it. Get the rest of the adjustment out of the top of the hinges that bolt to the hood. Keep asking ?s - we'll figure it out - no worries :)
I HAD A FRIEND THATS GOT A JUNKYARD AND I KNOW WERE THE GOODIES ARE I GOT A 95 PASSENGER FENDER OEM MINT WITH THE ROLL UP LIGHT ON IT 40 BUCKS ,
Yeah thanks for the info on the bolts to do first. So none of the other bolts will move the panel correct? I am replacing and painting Metallic Silver for the base. then some metal flak fallowed with some House of Kolor Cobalt candy. Over the silver and flak. It should look sweet. But I need to make sure nothing else will move bend or cause and bowing on the panel. All of the body work must be perfect or it's not worth doing at all. This truck was my late brothers truck and it cost him his pinky finger. So I plan on taking good care of this old girl. next year I will be nickel plating and polishing engine parts. (Nickel won't rust like chrome) And I will be doing 100% of the work myself. I spray some cars when I was 17 to 20 yrs old. But I never replaced parts where I worked it was bondo. But this girl is not getting makeup, She getting the fountain of youth. cant wait to get Caroline on the road. I know my brother would love to see it once I get her done.
Once you have those three in - that's pretty much where it's staying. The others have to be put in before painting but won't change the gaps. Sorry to hear about your brother. Good luck on your project and let me know how it turns out - would love to see pictures too. Email is under the about tab on the main page - Jerry
THAT WAS SOME GOOD SHIT! NOT CACA! 👍😁 THANKS!
You're welcome :)
Great job
Thanks Austin :)
Great video
Thanks Henry :)
Great video
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