Sakaguchi: we need a party member to die and not be able to be brought back, because this game is going to primarily be about dealing with the premature loss of a loved one -- in honor of my mother who recently died. Nomura: okay, sounds good! (I'm gonna ruin this man's whole career)
Yeah! How dares him to introduce tragedia and loss into media?! All media shuld have corny and cheesy happy ever after endings! Everyone should be happy!
It is another example of the cultural decay and creep towards historical revisionism. Destroy the spirit of the original to replace it with substandard nostalgia crack. It exists in all retro media. And it's purposeful and directed.
And it's especially insulting when these people change the actual game or piece of art into something subpar because it fits their agenda. This video just proves that Japan isn't immune to this cultural decay and creep either. Although I will say that I very much think Japan is in a better state of mind than western society. But who knows how long that will last.
@@KratostheThird their state of mind is literally self deprecating and suicidal. work to death, rampant hikikomori, high rate of suicides, gambling, etc.
@@gary7867 Not to mention young people who are in solitary confinement perhaps voluntarily. They have an unhealthy obsession with attractive western women, but have no clue how to form real relationships. They are not well.
@@timekeeper2538 and your a purple dinosaur. I can make claims without evidence and insult people too.... doesn't make me right. But, hey keep being a douche bag, I'm sure that will work out for ya.
I'm so glad I can hear someone say that Square died when they merged with Enix. I remember intuitively knowing the golden era was over when that happened. The passion it takes to make the kind of games that are masterpieces is long gone. They can come back, but they must start letting their talent work without the executive interference. Those in their late 20s and 30s know what I'm talking about. And we're jaded from this mediocrity.
It has nothing to do with the merger itself but the BS that led to said merger - namely the dogcrap CEOs by the name of Wada and Matsuda. Sakaguchi was more or less ousted under the guise of "stepping down" and multiple talents within the company (Including Nobuo Uematsu) left under Wada's management. Matsuda succeeded Wada but he's really not that different as CEO. If anything, Enix's getting bogged down by Square at this point.
As many people stated in these comments, the company died when they merged with Enix. Wada is a truly disgusting CEO whose only goal was money. The mere fact that there was never a direct sequel prior to this pos taking over the company showed us the contrast and creative genius of Squaresoft and the corporate greed of Square Enix under Wada. Hironobu Sakaguchi WAS Final Fantasy and in my personal opinion it died with his departure.
I agree with literally everything, it’s sad. And realizing that ff has peaked decades ago, and that my favorite, such a legendary series, is never coming back is so sad. It truly hurts
Best take I've seen on this. It's difficult searching out the critical reviews of FFVIIR, because so many reviewers just toed the line and gave 10/10s for the biggest bait-n-switch in video game history
@@michialphelps2339 Nope. Now that Stillbirth is out: *Ptolemy and Rikk from Robot Co-Op were right.* Stillbirth getting shellacked on imageboards. What's wrong guys, you don't like multiverses in all your favorite childhood stories???
I'm impressed that you managed to display so much displeasure without even mentioning how the Yuffie content is seemingly PS5 exclusive, shafting those who bought the the game or even the extra pricey collectors editions on PS4. Maybe they'll release on PS4 too but so far i haven't heard anything. That said, I agree with you for the most part. I don't feel quite the same level of resentment in regards to the compilation and remake(ignoring the issue mentioned earlier). I enjoyed at those entries on some level, but I could always separate them from the base game when I would replay it. REMAKE doesn't really let us do that. I find it easier to think of it as a different game. It is NOT Final Fantasy VII, It's REMAKE. This way, it doesn't bother me as much, and maybe, when it's all done and is playable on something I own, I might play past part 1. Assuming it isn't shit. Also I laughed when you mentioned the thing about Yuffie's shorts being unbuttered as that was something I was sure they'd change and was unironically happy to see was kept intact in the trailer. You got me haha.
Lets not add, that the PS5 is expensive as f, the games that are do for that consoles are even less that for PS4, also thanks to sony, for closing the japanese brand many game syou want, wont be made for PS5, so basicly PS5 is just a waste of money, is sad
What happened to at least 2 parts if 7 remake was ps4.so many people bought a ps4 just to play remake only to have to buy a ps5 for the whole game lol we were played hard body lmao
Its sadly something what happens every single time when a rich subculture and its arts/products get embraced by mainstreet. Besides the visual updates all its unique caracteristics will be scaled down or completely removed.
the golden age, when squaresoft released a 4 disc ps game with like 100 hours of gameplay and suck your life away, now it's split into paying parts and exclusivity to a console that a third of console owners acquired lol.
Modern Nomura FF are a complete corruption compared to the older games that square produced in the 90's. Luckily people have caught on the fact that Nomura should never have been more than a character designer at most.
Well, Sakaguchi did create the series after all and when he left the company, so to did the spirit of FF. The FF7 we got in 97 that more or less revolutionized gaming but story telling media amongst other forms too, was because of Sakaguchi. Without him, FF7 wouldve been something completely different. In interviews he spoke of the conflicts between Nomura, Kitase and Nojima during the brainstorming of what FF7 should be and everyone apparently had outlandishly opposing ideas to Sakaguchi's vision. I would argue most arent aware or interested in these sorts of things sadly. I guess were seeing some of those idea in the Remake. Who knows were it will go, now
Do you have a link to that article? I'd really love to read it. I really dislike the storytelling tropes, styles, and topics Nomura and Nojima keep reusing. And reading what Sakaguchi has to say would really be interesting
@@livetorek4723 nah 14 makes them so much money it doesnt even matter if they sold hardly any copies. They will make this an asset flip of the first part, give people a few new characters to play and thats it
It's always sad to see when a company that holds the copyright to a franchise that they do not respect in the same regards as the original creator be the custodians of said franchise. Bethesda and Bioware are Western examples of this phenomenon.
If you’re referring to fallout, yes I think I see what you mean. But their treatment of the series is still magnitudes better than what squeenix has done to final fantasy.
This is SOOOO true. After Sakaguchi left, everything has collapsed into boring, anime paste spread all over wheat toast. I haven’t been interested in a FF game since X. Not even a little.
I think it’s dumb that you keep bringing up the “coomer” shit but other than that you’re fucking right. Numora can do whatever the fuck he wants with Kingdom Hearts but I hope he doesn’t get another chance to put his idiotic mindfuck of a vision into another classic story.
Square was bound to be bought out at some point. Sakaguchi was a talented calculated gambler. For a long time, all of his gambles paid off, so he kept gambling with Square. When it didn’t work out and his gambling streak ended (in a perfect storm of bad cash flow). What he understood that is really missing from Square Enix, is that to create games that were art; one had to take risks. Almost anything the company released from Ff6 through to 10 was a gamble and usually it worked out, and when it did the payout was huge. He understood that to create important games, you had to let people with big ideas, bring them to life. His focus was on pleasing the driven creators, even when he didn’t agree completely with them. Square enix is now driven to please the investors. Which means pandering to what fans think they want, not what they really want. Great example with Ff12: I’m one of the very few that really disliked 12. I can appreciate why people liked it though. You just have to pretend Penelo and Vaan don’t exist. Why do Penelo and Vaan exist? Because the people with the cash found out that fans disliked strong male leads and wanted more androgynous looking leads. So we ended up with a stupidly written unimportant drop in character as our “lead”. That’s a perfect example of listening to the investors and not the creator and that’s what square enix continues to do. And so long as that method continues, they will never create “games as art” again. Full disclosure though: I loved 90% of the remake and agreed with any decision that didn’t involve trying to completely change the spirit of the original story. In other words, whispers were unnecessary, changing fate is unnecessary. If they want to please investors and fans, add a new game plus to part 2. The first play through adds to the original story without changing the story beats at all. New game plus; fine go save aerith and have Genesis, Zach and Angeal join your party to defeat an incarnation of Cissnei, Weiss and sephiroth in an alternate timeline where they fused together using Hollanders cloning. Have new game plus be where you can completely butcher the spirit of the original story and pander to the masses. Then you can “please” everyone.
I'm late to the party, but I've been stewing on this since Intergrade came out and I saw the god-awful ending. I have no idea if you'll even see this. All I want to say though, is I completely agree with you. 100%. The more I think about the "remake", the more pissed off I get. I even tried replaying the remake again last night, for the nostalgia, but the changes they made, the Whispers, the meta stupidity, the needing to merge Crisis Core and Dirge into the original story, is beyond stupid, and lazy. Nomura is the worst person to happen to Final Fantasy. The guy was given WAY, WAY too much fucking power and say in Final Fantasy, especially 7.
Nomura is not a healthy person both physically and mentally. He still thinks he's this hot shit and sadly no one in square was bold enough to break his delusions of grandeur. How is this mentally stunted manchild fit enough to lead such a big project like final fantasy? And why square making a big deal out of him? What makes him so special from the rest of other more competent guys at square?
Thank you for making this video and saying many of the things that we OG fans are feeling but feel we can't as effectively. As an OG, fan, I feel fortunate that I'm old enough to be able to say that I played Final Fantasy 7 in its purest form before all this nonsense It's too bad that it's gone this way. One thing I tell myself for some consolation is that there's only one final fantasy 7 story, and it was made in 1997. There are no others It'll always be there and I can play at any time I like All of this other nonsense is non canon fan fiction, and it's no different than a fan fiction story that you would find online somewhere The real story exists on a disc from the late 90s. At least we still have final fantasy 6 and 9...for now
I agree with you completely Sakaguchi era with square was the time they were trying to make good games. After sakaguchi left square and it became square enix their main focus is now money instead of good games
Finally someone understands my issues with square Enix I hate this sequel so much from a writing stand point it’s lazy not not creative what’s so ever. All the new concepts where lazy of you asked me I could of wrote things far more interesting with these ghosts poor execution. The main themes of death, loss, identity and morality have been stripped and turned into a a kingdom hearts fate vs destiny and defyinging bull. There hasn’t been a good ff game since 10. I’m playing ff14 and the story and characters harken back to the good old days of square. A lot of these changes destroy characters in this so called sequel for me this is ff17 with final fantasy 7 characters and butchering or the lore and world. I said this before this game came out sqaure Enix in my opinion are trying to line themselves to be bought out by Disney it all makes sense. Making ff7 a multiverse with spin off games for decades to come. The writing in this game is lazy predictable and insulting why people have been raving how much of a masterpiece this game is especially content creators. This game for me is the biggest scam ever done in gaming. We are remaking ff7 got ya it’s a sequel by the original so you understand now here is the episodic garabage of all of ff7 but on mobile not console I’m so sick of this game
It's because it is made by satanists, the hate that Satan is fated to be defeated by Jesus so they have to make fan fic's where someone breaks away from their fate/destiny but it just won't happen
Final Fantasy has been shit ever since 7. It was obvious that Sakaguchi was tired and washed up. Square should've died in 2003 rather than dragging the superior company Enix down with it.
I hear your frustration, and I understand where it is coming from. I grew up with NES/SNES and Final Fantasy was a bit of an escape for me. I remember when Final Fantasy left Nintendo for Sony and I felt this way lol. I think on the PS1 Era Square had a dream team of storytellers. They also took risks that generation as well. I miss turn based rpgs quite a bit.
Thank God. Someone who's ACTUALLY SANE! This shit so damn insulting. This remake is painful. I will NEVER stop HATING this remake. I didn't think it was possible for me to hate something so much for so long. Now every time I think about my favorite game of all time i can't help but have the remake pop in there. And every time it does I start hating again. Now it's causing me actual pain thinking about my favorite game. I've mentioned this before, but it really is equivalent to the live-action Netfix adaption of "Death Note". Except filled ads that if be forced to watch. Btw the Death Note is fucking TERRIBLE. The ads would be equivalent to the padding. The only difference is that I love ff7 so damn much while Death Note is just really good anime. I really wish that damn remake didn't exist. I almost wished I wouldn't have played the damn thing. But I still would've hated it. Damn dude...... I just can't understand why they did this. Even from a business perspective I don't understand. They could've done the same damn thing. Just not mess with the story, and take more time to make the padding that doesn't suck ass. The quality dropped off big time when you reach the slums. They could've took another year the fix the textures and change the environment so it's not so damn bland. The customization of items and materia is shitty too. Even the summons are useless. Holy shit Everytime I start talking about this game it turns into a rant because I hate so damn much. Even if it want Final Fantasy 7 I'd still hare just like Kingdom Hearts. They're just bad games and yet it feels like most can't see it. How do people not see that?
The soundtrack is the only thing about the project that feels like it was really made with heart, like Hamauzu and the other composers and arrangers actually gave a shit about honoring the legacy of Uematsus work. The rest of it feels like an insult to Sakaguchis design orthodoxy for FF.
Agreed the soundtrack is easily one of the best. My biggest problem with this is that the DLC is probably gonna cost like $30 at least just like KH3: Remind which is ridiculous for something that should of already been in the original release. They are trying to milk ff7 for everything it’s worth now.
The soundtrack was okay. The issue I had was I got sick of hearing some of it constantly. Specifically the regular battle soundtrack and the soundtrack when in the tunnels. Any section that I needed to grind a little, I had to mute the game because I already heard the battle music for the two hours in the chapter. The boss music was what I looked forward to. And the intro, I have always loved that.
Square Enix is definitely a shadow of their former selves, which I've also felt for the last two decades. However, with Square Enix embracing ESG and their "ethics department" I don't really think they're interested in a "coomer" market. If anything, they're playing it extremely safe by toning down anything that could be deemed even slightly offensive in modern times. They're in it for mass appeal to maximize profit and keep their ESG rating high enough to get funding so they don't go under.
Amazing, amazing, amazing. Thank you for your thoughts. I want FF7R to succeed, it's so nice seeing the old characters, just feels like old friends you havent seen in a while, but I'm very worried about the direction.
As soon as it was announced that FF7 Remake would be directed by Nomura and would be episodic I wrote it off, because I knew it would take over a decade (or more) to complete and would be milked dry before then. Oh what’s this? FF7 Remake Intergrade exclusive to PS5? And look over there! A mobile exclusive FF7 game? Wow…how terrible it feels to be proven right. 😩
Did you notice after block buster went out of business games started to suck. We used to be able to try games before we bought them but not anymore so it's really no wonder we get stuck with games like this
The release of the Yuffie DLC, and its contents, have only proven you even more right than you already were. Without spoiling anything… oh, what the hell; I’m gonna spoil the ever-loving shit out of that terrible DLC: -Four new anime boy characters, including one from Dump of Cerberus -They completely overblow New Anime Boy 1’s backstory in an attempt to make everyone cry a river, and fail miserably at that. They also Aerith Backstab him to try to convince you that this is some deep emotional moment, but fail miserably -If you liked Yuffie in the original, you’ll hate her way overblown anime trope-y antics in this one -The fourth- yes, *fourth* - post-credit scene confirms that they did, in fact, revive Zack, and are hinting at a Return To Aerith/Save Aerith From Death storyline in the same cutscene they show him in In short, everybody knew you were right; they just didn’t want to admit it. I’d imagine the people who still don’t want to admit it will have to find out the hard way by Re:make Part 764. By then, the grandchildren of their grandchildren of their grandchildren will pity them for giving into this cash grab in the first place.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to know other people are as sick of this bullshit as I am Not to mention having the DLC be exclusive to an out of stock console
i KNEW they would do that, all the fanboys kept telling me " nah they will still have aeris die" lol i knew better though. this is disney ff7 after all
@@benfubbs2432 Just watch the cutscene on UA-cam that should be fix your curiosity, that what I do coz I dont have PS4/PS5 just PC and oh my God what have they done to my baby, not only they butcher the story to overprice DLC, they even change this just Kingdom heart wannabe like FF15 and I hate FF15 too coz I disgust and sick with how clean and handsome all party member specially their bromance yuck 🤢🤮
You say that but after playing Crisis Core Reunion, I say that was a passion project, and yes I played it on PSP and am amazed with all the care they put on this remaster/remake, so while I m not expecting them to ever pull out something like FF VI again, but Square Enix seems to be recovering from some of their past mistakes. Also I like what they are doing with FF VII remake, but since I never finished the OG, I m currently finishing that one, before I ever get into the Remake and incoming Rebirth. The problem when companies get bigger and bigger is that sometimes creativity is crushed and finances and economical decisions came to matter way more, there is no avoiding this, knowing that, I m still pleased with the recent story of SE. Sakaguchi indeed had a very prominient role, but it is not like all the FF games he had a work on where that good, FF V sucked, same for FF III. There is an excuse for III, but not for FF V coming after IV. Thought starting VI, story was again a focus, I honestly still have a lot of FF to play, I do understand your point but then again, same could be said for what happened after Xenoblade 1, which was a game lacking all those anime tropes, then watch what become of Xenoblade 2... as long as the games have strong plots that I can care about, I dont mind the anime tropes/focus. Also FF XVI seems to be appealing more to what you wanted, and I for once couldnt be more excited after the last trailer. And about Sakaguchi again, could you say the projects he done after Square still have that flame and passion you say it is missing from the FF series after his departure? My point being, you cant say things would have been that different if he had stayed.
The only way that the remake could have done the original justice was if it got a 'R' rating instead of the 'Teen' rating from the E.S.R.B. the original had technical limitations so the violence (example Shinra slaughtering everyone in Corel), gore (example Wedge falling ten stories to his death and becoming a pile meat when he splats on the ground), torture (example all of Hojo's human experiments), sex (example clouds date night with Tifa/Aerith at the gold saucer where they totally bang on the gondala ride or the night before descending int the North Crater to fight Sephiroth when Cloud and Tifa spend the night together, alone, and definitely bang), Prostitution (Example the Honeybee Inn. Those things are all vital for characterisation and world building and it is impossible to do them justice in the remake without making the game rated R, so instead these elements have been cut out of the game: Wedge doesn't splat and anyone that dies does so off camera, instead of the Prostitutes at the Honeybee Inn we get to have a dance battle and I never saw a Shinra Soldier even point a gun at a civilian let alone shoot any of them. In the original you know the Shinra troops were walking the streets and disappearing people that caused problems, making public examples of others (you don't need to kill them all, just shoot one and the rest get the message kid of deal).
@@Shadow-gm9ct Do you mean that the remake had an M rating? I don't think that is what you meant I think you meant that there is no R rating from the ESRB and the remake should be given the M rating by the ESRB, which is the "Mature 17+" rating and I'd agree with that.
I totally agree. The original is much more mature, while also being goofy. The remake tries to appeal to a younger audience and comes of childish and immature. One of many flaws.
@@Theo-pd4ju I replayed the original FF7 and instantly fell in love again. Great soundtrack, memorable characters, compelling storyline. Well crafted and satisfying turn based RPG gameplay.
You're the first one I've ever heard talking about the merger like that. You're saying what I've been saying from the beginning. What I thought would be awesome, merging Squaresoft's epic storytelling with the innovative gameplay of Enix's IPs, ended up being a huge disappointment. Stories stopped being epic and the gameplay design started mimicking what was already out there.
I'm surprised and pleased to see more people come out hating on this compilation shit. I got crucified by "nu square" fans when I said the remake was bullshit. I have ALWAYS said enix merge was the point where the developer went straight to hell.
My god, thank you for existing dude...keep preaching and let the elephant in the room out. Every single thing you mentioned in this video I whole heartedly agree.
Oh man it feels so good to hear this. It's exactly what I think and then some. You know, I'm a big fan of FF8. And I'm kinda glad that Square is not interested in ever touching it again.
A FF7 Remake is LITERALLY the easiest project that could have ever been created. An exact copy of the original PSX game, completely redone graphically, zero additional story elements, with modern QoL adjustments like speed up battles a bit. Add a few little extras, like an option to use an orchestrated soundtrack, or some kind of fun throwback blocky PSX character models. That's it. Winner of best game ever. Best company ever. Easiest.business.decision.ever. An absolute slam dunk w/ the glass backboard shattering into a million pieces. They make billions and their stock is through the roof. But no. Just let Nomura destroy it all.
I wasn't personally opposed to a remake. I was fully expecting a new gameplay style considering JRPGs seem like a harder sell nowadays unless they're ADHD adjacent like, idk, Pokemon or Persona 5. My issue came from those god awful Whisper moments. You wanna expand on the AVALANCHE members? Cool. Wanna show us more SOLDIER dudes? Okay. Stupid as fuck compilation sequel inclusions? Fuck off. It really wasn't that hard to make your game titled "Remake" an actual remake, but whatever. They already lost us
You are absolutely delusional if you believe repackaging FF7 without changes would somehow net them a massive payday. They already made their money off that game 25 years ago. You are seriously not right in the head if you think you can ride your business on that. You would end up fired if you were the director.
Wow. I'm not alone- been playing the ff series from day one (in America anyway) and have completed most of them to 12. And I agree 100% they've destroyed their IP and continue to exploit the name without end. 10 and 12 were the last decent games in the series. 10 gave gave me high hopes for the newer generation of ff... but then they put out x-2 which was a joke! 12 rekindled my love for the series but then I remember when xiii came out... how disappointing that was! what a lousy excuse for a game. The saddest part is: that I eventually used to go out and buy these weak ass games with the hopes and prayers that maybe this time they got it right. 15 almost did it but it just felt wrong. Another thing I can not stomach anymore is the absolute bought and paid for support that reviewers give as a community. RIP FF
For me the series definitely fell off after FF13. I have some hope for FF16 because they have a competent team making it in the FF14 team but we shall see. I do agree though that they’ve but trying to milk FF7 way too much.
Honestly, I love the direction that ff7R is going in right now but I can appreciate your takes on it too. I feel like the Yufie dlc is just about world-building. Like it doesn't look like she'll interact with the original cast at this point so why not just show what she was doing during that time. Also, I think they just showed off deep ground stuff for shock appeal and it won't play a huge role in the future of the game. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. From someone who loved this game, I can appreciate criticism because I think we all just want it to be great. Good video.
“Show don’t tell” We don’t need to know in detail or see what yuffie was doing anymore than we needed to know what Zach was doing in crisis core. The best bits of storytelling is showing just enough in regards to the past and FF7OG did this perfectly. It’s the same reason we don’t need to see a FF10 prequel of braskas pilgrimage, because we already know everything we need to by playing X.
its amazing what they have done. i have no idea how they arrive at decisions. this shows that the vision of the company informs the content exactly. i want to kill Chaos??!!? WTF
Thank you, you managed to put all of my problems with this game and franchise into one video. I have never agreed with someone about something so much.
I'm a little late to this, and I'm sorry that this is my third reply to this video alone, but Square Enix cannot stop digging their grave through this game. In The Game Awards, they said FF7 Remake is releasing to PC... as an Epic Games Store Exclusive. And to make matters worse, its cost is being bumped up to $70. Yes, the base cost, no deluxe editions, no DLC, whether you bought any of it on Playstation or not. It doesn't help that the PC version is about as bug-free as a Bethesda game, but I guess it's superior because some people figured out how to mod Cloud's gloves off...? As for Part 2, with Nomura finally gone from the Director's chair, replaced my Naoki Hamaguchi, you'd think things would get better down the line. Unfortunately, Naoki Hamaguchi was the one who came up with the idea to make the Compilation of FF7 canon in FF7 Remake, and *he will use Nomura as his main consultant for Parts 2 and beyond.* Plus, he directed that sorry excuse of a DLC, including all the *four* post-credit scenes. Fucking hell, this game and its endless supply of sequels are going to age like the League of Nations. I'm not even rooting for it to improve anymore, I will happily watch it burn to the ground.
The failure of FF Spirits Within ushered in an opportunity for corporate interest to command decision making at Square. The company no longer retains the talent that put them on the map and any talent that resides within is tainted by those left in charge now.
here's the deal. The longer you're a fan of japanese gaming, the longer you become adjusted to punishment. Japanese game devs literally have the worst business minds in the entire tech-based consumer market. Square enix is just another notch in the belt of misery.
I've just almost randomly stumbled upon this video while watching relevant to the topic, and I really liked the words author put here, to rephrase them: original FF franchise was about a vision. Now it's mostly only to appeal to anime fans. Good thing that at least FF 16 spared me this teenage horny edgy anime style, where characters are adults in behaviour and actually can die. FF7R... gosh.
SquareSoft would take the same approach as SQEX is taking today. I think the blame isn't exclusive to the new era of the company (as of FFX-2, like you said), but to the industry as a whole. Think about the big picture like indirect competitors like The Pokémon Company: 0 Effort cashgrabs.
Great video! I see that the salt levels have risen even higher in this comment section since I’ve been gone... had to create a new account. The lifespans of my UA-cam accounts seem to get shorter and shorter... still need to setup an odyssey account...
even though I am a bit of a weeb coomer who devours all this nomura stuff, I have to say you are a master orator who has convinced me to at least be embarrassed at my mindless consumption of squeenix offerings.
Square Enix has been making unpolished bland garbage for 20 years now. Their fans developed an acquired taste for that garbage, that’s why you see them defending FF7R and FF16 They actually think FF16 is a serious contender for goty KEKW
While I think you are 100% correct, I think the argument could be a little better structured. I get you’re mad, I’m also very disappointed with what’s happening to the series, I think we need clearer points. For example, this is definitely fan service and anime garbage that is just a pile of tropes, but it might be more productive to explain what these are and compare them directly to better examples of FF story. Again though, you’re right. And it’s a shame.
Totally agree with you. He even gets angrier if you call him off... Lols. Too bad because he's got real good points there, which if done with better structure can reach more people.
I'd love to see another video from you on square as of today because they seem to have gotten even worse.. Their games are just becoming so low quality / low budget with a massive focus on live service.
Best game i ever played it got me interested so much that I'm now almost done with the original and finished crisis core idk what exactly you people want 😂
Bro you said everything ive wanted to articulate to so many people! I will be sharing this video. You were spot on 2 years ago. Look at the crisis core remake that everyone has eaten up. I have wanted a FF9 remake for many many years. But after what i saw happen to FF7, i hope to GOD they never touch it again. Leave it alone i dont' want it anymore.
Hilariously enough, I know of waifu wank simulators with competent writing. Some of the Senran Kagura games actually have competent character writing that emphasizes concepts of heroism and responsibility. I'm referring primarily to the two DS games. I'm just saying that there are these mostly garbage fanservice games that still manage to have original stories with important moral concepts woven into them, along with some occasionally good character writing. FF7 Remake may even hit a slightly lower tier of lowest common denominator entertainment. Nostalgia and boobs are some of the absolute cheapest ways to try and sell things to people.
There’s a bit here I find odd. Criticism with the “weeaboo fan fare” didn’t start with X-2. It started with arguably with Tifa. Or in VII where Hojo tried to breed Aerith with Red XIII. It seems criticism that is very pointed to try and get your point in. VII changed things for them as from then on Square was testing waters with Sakaguchi’s vision vs Kitase’s. VIII & X were Kitase’s vision with even more attention to ass shots per character ratio. The argument for taking advantage of the FF name is fair as it happened when management changed. It took Kitase & Nomura and allowed them to be the creative figureheads of the new Square. I too don’t care for it, but X is also part of that. XII is probably the last of the original vision.
Amen !! I don't know you guy, but freaking, fucking, AMEN to everything you said. I'm no native english speaker. But the 33 years old, eternal fan of FF7 couldn't said it better than you did. FF are dead, but worse than that SE is using this licence dead body to milk money using the good reputation earned on Squaresoft dead body to sell utter shit crap, disgusting cynical mockery of FF. It's disgusting and horrible to see...
Huge FFX fan - I didn’t have a PS1 cause N64 baby. Everything here is perfectly worded, I don’t know if the merger was the reason for the decline, but FFX was really the end line for good game from them.
I agree. I even heared the merger of Enix and Square was a failure. This is coming from the company it's self. They know they messed up and the hardcore fans get payed for it. While we tell Square this is wrong. The people that pay these games are telling Sqaure yes keep doing this. Which is bs. KH3 should have been a 10 out of 10, FFXV should have been 10 out of 10 or at least 8 out of 10. This company does not know how to make games and they made them. I recommend a video called What happen to Final Fantasy. It's made by St1ka. Everything in that video tells what happened to Sqaure and this was plan when the creator of Final Fantasy left the company
Greetings from TBYS post.
I don't know if you'll ever see this comment but...Thank you for making this video.
Sakaguchi: we need a party member to die and not be able to be brought back, because this game is going to primarily be about dealing with the premature loss of a loved one -- in honor of my mother who recently died.
Nomura: okay, sounds good! (I'm gonna ruin this man's whole career)
Yeah! How dares him to introduce tragedia and loss into media?! All media shuld have corny and cheesy happy ever after endings! Everyone should be happy!
It is another example of the cultural decay and creep towards historical revisionism. Destroy the spirit of the original to replace it with substandard nostalgia crack. It exists in all retro media. And it's purposeful and directed.
And it's especially insulting when these people change the actual game or piece of art into something subpar because it fits their agenda. This video just proves that Japan isn't immune to this cultural decay and creep either.
Although I will say that I very much think Japan is in a better state of mind than western society. But who knows how long that will last.
@@KratostheThird their state of mind is literally self deprecating and suicidal. work to death, rampant hikikomori, high rate of suicides, gambling, etc.
@@gary7867 Not to mention young people who are in solitary confinement perhaps voluntarily. They have an unhealthy obsession with attractive western women, but have no clue how to form real relationships.
They are not well.
You're a clown if you believe this.
@@timekeeper2538 and your a purple dinosaur. I can make claims without evidence and insult people too.... doesn't make me right. But, hey keep being a douche bag, I'm sure that will work out for ya.
Thank you. Tired of other content creators making excuses for this bullshit.
I'm so glad I can hear someone say that Square died when they merged with Enix. I remember intuitively knowing the golden era was over when that happened. The passion it takes to make the kind of games that are masterpieces is long gone.
They can come back, but they must start letting their talent work without the executive interference.
Those in their late 20s and 30s know what I'm talking about. And we're jaded from this mediocrity.
I just need to see 1988 in your name to know you're a guy in his 30s who like me, is also upset with where Square ended up.
It has nothing to do with the merger itself but the BS that led to said merger - namely the dogcrap CEOs by the name of Wada and Matsuda.
Sakaguchi was more or less ousted under the guise of "stepping down" and multiple talents within the company (Including Nobuo Uematsu) left under Wada's management. Matsuda succeeded Wada but he's really not that different as CEO.
If anything, Enix's getting bogged down by Square at this point.
They haven’t died because they still make great games, but business wise they make some very questionable decisions
"Square died when they merged with Enix" 100
Talent: "FF7 remake!?"
Executive: " Zack and Aeris romance??"
Talent: " ... plot hole ghosts?"
Nomura: *visible orgasm
Square Enix needs to rebrand themselves Shinra Corp.
It's like they made Advent Children and then said we must make our FF games like this from here on out.
Advent children wasn’t that bad brother.
@@Ushi_archiveoh brother 🤦🏾♂️
@@Ushi_archive If your taste is sh*t. If you enjoy character assassination and trash writing. Then go ahead, enjoy your trash fan fiction.
As many people stated in these comments, the company died when they merged with Enix. Wada is a truly disgusting CEO whose only goal was money. The mere fact that there was never a direct sequel prior to this pos taking over the company showed us the contrast and creative genius of Squaresoft and the corporate greed of Square Enix under Wada. Hironobu Sakaguchi WAS Final Fantasy and in my personal opinion it died with his departure.
Square Enix is now under Blackrock. Look up the company that is a subsidiary of them.
I agree with literally everything, it’s sad. And realizing that ff has peaked decades ago, and that my favorite, such a legendary series, is never coming back is so sad. It truly hurts
Best take I've seen on this. It's difficult searching out the critical reviews of FFVIIR, because so many reviewers just toed the line and gave 10/10s for the biggest bait-n-switch in video game history
My bet is that Nomura *WILL* link FF R to Verum Rex/Kingdom Hearts IV
Probably. The ending of rebirth shows a multiverse and the kids love it. Do you guys love it? 😂
@@michialphelps2339 Nope. Now that Stillbirth is out: *Ptolemy and Rikk from Robot Co-Op were right.* Stillbirth getting shellacked on imageboards.
What's wrong guys, you don't like multiverses in all your favorite childhood stories???
@@PaulieMcCoy Hell No
How is this not popular? This is the most relevant commentary about SE right now.
Is not popular in the great scheme lf things, most players are not old square fans,
truth is rarely popular
YT algorithms suppress dissent.
Time jannies in de-makes, jannies on YT.
I'm impressed that you managed to display so much displeasure without even mentioning how the Yuffie content is seemingly PS5 exclusive, shafting those who bought the the game or even the extra pricey collectors editions on PS4.
Maybe they'll release on PS4 too but so far i haven't heard anything.
That said, I agree with you for the most part. I don't feel quite the same level of resentment in regards to the compilation and remake(ignoring the issue mentioned earlier). I enjoyed at those entries on some level, but I could always separate them from the base game when I would replay it. REMAKE doesn't really let us do that.
I find it easier to think of it as a different game. It is NOT Final Fantasy VII, It's REMAKE. This way, it doesn't bother me as much, and maybe, when it's all done and is playable on something I own, I might play past part 1. Assuming it isn't shit.
Also I laughed when you mentioned the thing about Yuffie's shorts being unbuttered as that was something I was sure they'd change and was unironically happy to see was kept intact in the trailer. You got me haha.
Lets not add, that the PS5 is expensive as f, the games that are do for that consoles are even less that for PS4, also thanks to sony, for closing the japanese brand many game syou want, wont be made for PS5, so basicly PS5 is just a waste of money, is sad
What you guys don’t have ps5s ?
@@GOD-nx1yo scalpers
and they sell the ps5 price like three times than its normal price here in my country
What happened to at least 2 parts if 7 remake was ps4.so many people bought a ps4 just to play remake only to have to buy a ps5 for the whole game lol we were played hard body lmao
@@holy9781 By the end of it, people will have to buy a ps6 or 7 for the actually complete product.
You should do a video about Yoshida. Hes the future of FF and understands the industry, fanbase, and market for art. He really feels like FF.
Yeah I'm hyped for 16 remake not so much anymore
@@RIELTURO 16 remake?🤔
Agreed, he is Square Japan’s trump card
Bs im not buying into anything square for a very long time
My hope died long ago
Its sadly something what happens every single time when a rich subculture and its arts/products get embraced by mainstreet. Besides the visual updates all its unique caracteristics will be scaled down or completely removed.
the golden age, when squaresoft released a 4 disc ps game with like 100 hours of gameplay and suck your life away, now it's split into paying parts and exclusivity to a console that a third of console owners acquired lol.
@tom gu don't insult these people even if I agree with you
Plus you gotta wait 3 years in between releases too. Very nice to keep the pace/enthusiasm alive....Not! Lol
@tom gu Oh yeah nobody thought about releasing 4 blu ray at once huh? Nobody said to fit it in one CD.
Modern Nomura FF are a complete corruption compared to the older games that square produced in the 90's.
Luckily people have caught on the fact that Nomura should never have been more than a character designer at most.
ASSISTANT Designer pls ... back in squaresoftera he was positioned as what he is/was = a dumb assistant which shall stfu if the Masters talk.
Well, Sakaguchi did create the series after all and when he left the company, so to did the spirit of FF. The FF7 we got in 97 that more or less revolutionized gaming but story telling media amongst other forms too, was because of Sakaguchi. Without him, FF7 wouldve been something completely different. In interviews he spoke of the conflicts between Nomura, Kitase and Nojima during the brainstorming of what FF7 should be and everyone apparently had outlandishly opposing ideas to Sakaguchi's vision. I would argue most arent aware or interested in these sorts of things sadly. I guess were seeing some of those idea in the Remake. Who knows were it will go, now
Do you have a link to that article? I'd really love to read it. I really dislike the storytelling tropes, styles, and topics Nomura and Nojima keep reusing. And reading what Sakaguchi has to say would really be interesting
Part 2 will bankrupt square enix watch
@@livetorek4723 nah 14 makes them so much money it doesnt even matter if they sold hardly any copies. They will make this an asset flip of the first part, give people a few new characters to play and thats it
I would love to read/watch something about that, because that explains modern Final Fantasy games compared to the golden age.
Hit the nail on the head. FF series actually ended after 10 with the departure of sacaguchi
It's always sad to see when a company that holds the copyright to a franchise that they do not respect in the same regards as the original creator be the custodians of said franchise. Bethesda and Bioware are Western examples of this phenomenon.
If you’re referring to fallout, yes I think I see what you mean. But their treatment of the series is still magnitudes better than what squeenix has done to final fantasy.
Yeah, like Konami with ips like Metal Gear, Castlevania and Silent Hill
If anyone understood the actual themes of the original, the "ReMake" would make them retch.
This is SOOOO true. After Sakaguchi left, everything has collapsed into boring, anime paste spread all over wheat toast. I haven’t been interested in a FF game since X. Not even a little.
I think it’s dumb that you keep bringing up the “coomer” shit but other than that you’re fucking right. Numora can do whatever the fuck he wants with Kingdom Hearts but I hope he doesn’t get another chance to put his idiotic mindfuck of a vision into another classic story.
Agreed
@@nanapyon2542 “I ‘fixed’ the story guys!” -Tetsuyo Nomura (sorry if I misspelled lol)
The new crowd are dancing on the husk of something that was beautiful.
RIP great JRPGs 😢
Xeno’s still around
You know there is a problem with square Enix when people are more excited for triangle strategy than this game.
Amen. To all of us who remember the magic.
Square was bound to be bought out at some point. Sakaguchi was a talented calculated gambler. For a long time, all of his gambles paid off, so he kept gambling with Square. When it didn’t work out and his gambling streak ended (in a perfect storm of bad cash flow). What he understood that is really missing from Square Enix, is that to create games that were art; one had to take risks. Almost anything the company released from Ff6 through to 10 was a gamble and usually it worked out, and when it did the payout was huge. He understood that to create important games, you had to let people with big ideas, bring them to life. His focus was on pleasing the driven creators, even when he didn’t agree completely with them. Square enix is now driven to please the investors. Which means pandering to what fans think they want, not what they really want.
Great example with Ff12:
I’m one of the very few that really disliked 12. I can appreciate why people liked it though. You just have to pretend Penelo and Vaan don’t exist. Why do Penelo and Vaan exist? Because the people with the cash found out that fans disliked strong male leads and wanted more androgynous looking leads. So we ended up with a stupidly written unimportant drop in character as our “lead”.
That’s a perfect example of listening to the investors and not the creator and that’s what square enix continues to do. And so long as that method continues, they will never create “games as art” again.
Full disclosure though: I loved 90% of the remake and agreed with any decision that didn’t involve trying to completely change the spirit of the original story. In other words, whispers were unnecessary, changing fate is unnecessary. If they want to please investors and fans, add a new game plus to part 2. The first play through adds to the original story without changing the story beats at all. New game plus; fine go save aerith and have Genesis, Zach and Angeal join your party to defeat an incarnation of Cissnei, Weiss and sephiroth in an alternate timeline where they fused together using Hollanders cloning. Have new game plus be where you can completely butcher the spirit of the original story and pander to the masses. Then you can “please” everyone.
I'm late to the party, but I've been stewing on this since Intergrade came out and I saw the god-awful ending. I have no idea if you'll even see this.
All I want to say though, is I completely agree with you. 100%. The more I think about the "remake", the more pissed off I get. I even tried replaying the remake again last night, for the nostalgia, but the changes they made, the Whispers, the meta stupidity, the needing to merge Crisis Core and Dirge into the original story, is beyond stupid, and lazy.
Nomura is the worst person to happen to Final Fantasy. The guy was given WAY, WAY too much fucking power and say in Final Fantasy, especially 7.
Nomura is not a healthy person both physically and mentally. He still thinks he's this hot shit and sadly no one in square was bold enough to break his delusions of grandeur. How is this mentally stunted manchild fit enough to lead such a big project like final fantasy? And why square making a big deal out of him? What makes him so special from the rest of other more competent guys at square?
Same. I cant even force myself to play it. It hurts my soul and angers me greatly.
Thank you for making this video and saying many of the things that we OG fans are feeling but feel we can't as effectively.
As an OG, fan, I feel fortunate that I'm old enough to be able to say that I played Final Fantasy 7 in its purest form before all this nonsense
It's too bad that it's gone this way.
One thing I tell myself for some consolation is that there's only one final fantasy 7 story, and it was made in 1997. There are no others
It'll always be there and I can play at any time I like
All of this other nonsense is non canon fan fiction, and it's no different than a fan fiction story that you would find online somewhere
The real story exists on a disc from the late 90s.
At least we still have final fantasy 6 and 9...for now
I agree with you completely
Sakaguchi era with square was the time they were trying to make good games. After sakaguchi left square and it became square enix their main focus is now money instead of good games
Nomura made millions off of sakaguchis hard work period
Finally someone understands my issues with square Enix I hate this sequel so much from a writing stand point it’s lazy not not creative what’s so ever. All the new concepts where lazy of you asked me I could of wrote things far more interesting with these ghosts poor execution. The main themes of death, loss, identity and morality have been stripped and turned into a a kingdom hearts fate vs destiny and defyinging bull. There hasn’t been a good ff game since 10. I’m playing ff14 and the story and characters harken back to the good old days of square. A lot of these changes destroy characters in this so called sequel for me this is ff17 with final fantasy 7 characters and butchering or the lore and world. I said this before this game came out sqaure Enix in my opinion are trying to line themselves to be bought out by Disney it all makes sense. Making ff7 a multiverse with spin off games for decades to come.
The writing in this game is lazy predictable and insulting why people have been raving how much of a masterpiece this game is especially content creators. This game for me is the biggest scam ever done in gaming. We are remaking ff7 got ya it’s a sequel by the original so you understand now here is the episodic garabage of all of ff7 but on mobile not console I’m so sick of this game
You clearly don't know what a scam is, and the game is a remake, it's just more literal in the wording if you actually payed attention
It's because it is made by satanists, the hate that Satan is fated to be defeated by Jesus so they have to make fan fic's where someone breaks away from their fate/destiny but it just won't happen
I don't trust square enix I knew that square is going down hill when they emerge with enix.
Final Fantasy has been shit ever since 7. It was obvious that Sakaguchi was tired and washed up. Square should've died in 2003 rather than dragging the superior company Enix down with it.
100%
@@krotchlickmeugh1444 the original final fantasy 7 great so was final fantasy 10 and 9 it’s just after 10 it went downhill
@@krotchlickmeugh1444 That’s cap. 9 is better than 7 and 10 was very good as well
6:05 - Yep, this pretty much sums up my opinion on modern SquareEnix. Specifically when it comes to Nomura LMAO.
I hear your frustration, and I understand where it is coming from. I grew up with NES/SNES and Final Fantasy was a bit of an escape for me. I remember when Final Fantasy left Nintendo for Sony and I felt this way lol. I think on the PS1 Era Square had a dream team of storytellers. They also took risks that generation as well. I miss turn based rpgs quite a bit.
Thank God. Someone who's ACTUALLY SANE! This shit so damn insulting. This remake is painful. I will NEVER stop HATING this remake. I didn't think it was possible for me to hate something so much for so long. Now every time I think about my favorite game of all time i can't help but have the remake pop in there. And every time it does I start hating again.
Now it's causing me actual pain thinking about my favorite game. I've mentioned this before, but it really is equivalent to the live-action Netfix adaption of "Death Note". Except filled ads that if be forced to watch. Btw the Death Note is fucking TERRIBLE. The ads would be equivalent to the padding. The only difference is that I love ff7 so damn much while Death Note is just really good anime.
I really wish that damn remake didn't exist. I almost wished I wouldn't have played the damn thing. But I still would've hated it. Damn dude...... I just can't understand why they did this. Even from a business perspective I don't understand. They could've done the same damn thing. Just not mess with the story, and take more time to make the padding that doesn't suck ass. The quality dropped off big time when you reach the slums. They could've took another year the fix the textures and change the environment so it's not so damn bland.
The customization of items and materia is shitty too. Even the summons are useless. Holy shit Everytime I start talking about this game it turns into a rant because I hate so damn much. Even if it want Final Fantasy 7 I'd still hare just like Kingdom Hearts. They're just bad games and yet it feels like most can't see it. How do people not see that?
The soundtrack is the only thing about the project that feels like it was really made with heart, like Hamauzu and the other composers and arrangers actually gave a shit about honoring the legacy of Uematsus work. The rest of it feels like an insult to Sakaguchis design orthodoxy for FF.
Agreed the soundtrack is easily one of the best. My biggest problem with this is that the DLC is probably gonna cost like $30 at least just like KH3: Remind which is ridiculous for something that should of already been in the original release. They are trying to milk ff7 for everything it’s worth now.
i disliked it myself
The soundtrack was okay. The issue I had was I got sick of hearing some of it constantly. Specifically the regular battle soundtrack and the soundtrack when in the tunnels. Any section that I needed to grind a little, I had to mute the game because I already heard the battle music for the two hours in the chapter. The boss music was what I looked forward to. And the intro, I have always loved that.
Square Enix is definitely a shadow of their former selves, which I've also felt for the last two decades. However, with Square Enix embracing ESG and their "ethics department" I don't really think they're interested in a "coomer" market. If anything, they're playing it extremely safe by toning down anything that could be deemed even slightly offensive in modern times. They're in it for mass appeal to maximize profit and keep their ESG rating high enough to get funding so they don't go under.
Amazing, amazing, amazing. Thank you for your thoughts. I want FF7R to succeed, it's so nice seeing the old characters, just feels like old friends you havent seen in a while, but I'm very worried about the direction.
As soon as it was announced that FF7 Remake would be directed by Nomura and would be episodic I wrote it off, because I knew it would take over a decade (or more) to complete and would be milked dry before then. Oh what’s this? FF7 Remake Intergrade exclusive to PS5? And look over there! A mobile exclusive FF7 game? Wow…how terrible it feels to be proven right. 😩
What the fuck are those dislikes? Are people this delusional?
Delusional? I'll say they are in denial.
Did you notice after block buster went out of business games started to suck. We used to be able to try games before we bought them but not anymore so it's really no wonder we get stuck with games like this
God the snow village music is so nostalgic.
Is it ff8?
@@annedrieck73167
I agree with everything you said especially about how Sakaguchi is missed. Damn.. .what Final Fantasy could've been. Fuck Hacksuya Nomura!
I miss sakaguchi man hope he comes back someday the man was full of creativity even if u play his new mobile game fantasian its a masterpiece
this rant was very therapeutic, thanks man
yup, earned my subscription
It really is😏
The release of the Yuffie DLC, and its contents, have only proven you even more right than you already were.
Without spoiling anything… oh, what the hell; I’m gonna spoil the ever-loving shit out of that terrible DLC:
-Four new anime boy characters, including one from Dump of Cerberus
-They completely overblow New Anime Boy 1’s backstory in an attempt to make everyone cry a river, and fail miserably at that. They also Aerith Backstab him to try to convince you that this is some deep emotional moment, but fail miserably
-If you liked Yuffie in the original, you’ll hate her way overblown anime trope-y antics in this one
-The fourth- yes, *fourth* - post-credit scene confirms that they did, in fact, revive Zack, and are hinting at a Return To Aerith/Save Aerith From Death storyline in the same cutscene they show him in
In short, everybody knew you were right; they just didn’t want to admit it. I’d imagine the people who still don’t want to admit it will have to find out the hard way by Re:make Part 764. By then, the grandchildren of their grandchildren of their grandchildren will pity them for giving into this cash grab in the first place.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to know other people are as sick of this bullshit as I am
Not to mention having the DLC be exclusive to an out of stock console
i KNEW they would do that, all the fanboys kept telling me " nah they will still have aeris die" lol i knew better though. this is disney ff7 after all
Thanks for this, I am probably not going to play it but I still want to know what happened.
@@benfubbs2432 Just watch the cutscene on UA-cam that should be fix your curiosity, that what I do coz I dont have PS4/PS5 just PC and oh my God what have they done to my baby, not only they butcher the story to overprice DLC, they even change this just Kingdom heart wannabe like FF15 and I hate FF15 too coz I disgust and sick with how clean and handsome all party member specially their bromance yuck 🤢🤮
You say that but after playing Crisis Core Reunion, I say that was a passion project, and yes I played it on PSP and am amazed with all the care they put on this remaster/remake, so while I m not expecting them to ever pull out something like FF VI again, but Square Enix seems to be recovering from some of their past mistakes.
Also I like what they are doing with FF VII remake, but since I never finished the OG, I m currently finishing that one, before I ever get into the Remake and incoming Rebirth.
The problem when companies get bigger and bigger is that sometimes creativity is crushed and finances and economical decisions came to matter way more, there is no avoiding this, knowing that, I m still pleased with the recent story of SE.
Sakaguchi indeed had a very prominient role, but it is not like all the FF games he had a work on where that good, FF V sucked, same for FF III. There is an excuse for III, but not for FF V coming after IV. Thought starting VI, story was again a focus, I honestly still have a lot of FF to play, I do understand your point but then again, same could be said for what happened after Xenoblade 1, which was a game lacking all those anime tropes, then watch what become of Xenoblade 2... as long as the games have strong plots that I can care about, I dont mind the anime tropes/focus.
Also FF XVI seems to be appealing more to what you wanted, and I for once couldnt be more excited after the last trailer.
And about Sakaguchi again, could you say the projects he done after Square still have that flame and passion you say it is missing from the FF series after his departure?
My point being, you cant say things would have been that different if he had stayed.
The only way that the remake could have done the original justice was if it got a 'R' rating instead of the 'Teen' rating from the E.S.R.B. the original had technical limitations so the violence (example Shinra slaughtering everyone in Corel), gore (example Wedge falling ten stories to his death and becoming a pile meat when he splats on the ground), torture (example all of Hojo's human experiments), sex (example clouds date night with Tifa/Aerith at the gold saucer where they totally bang on the gondala ride or the night before descending int the North Crater to fight Sephiroth when Cloud and Tifa spend the night together, alone, and definitely bang), Prostitution (Example the Honeybee Inn. Those things are all vital for characterisation and world building and it is impossible to do them justice in the remake without making the game rated R, so instead these elements have been cut out of the game: Wedge doesn't splat and anyone that dies does so off camera, instead of the Prostitutes at the Honeybee Inn we get to have a dance battle and I never saw a Shinra Soldier even point a gun at a civilian let alone shoot any of them. In the original you know the Shinra troops were walking the streets and disappearing people that caused problems, making public examples of others (you don't need to kill them all, just shoot one and the rest get the message kid of deal).
@@Shadow-gm9ct Do you mean that the remake had an M rating? I don't think that is what you meant I think you meant that there is no R rating from the ESRB and the remake should be given the M rating by the ESRB, which is the "Mature 17+" rating and I'd agree with that.
I totally agree. The original is much more mature, while also being goofy. The remake tries to appeal to a younger audience and comes of childish and immature. One of many flaws.
@@Theo-pd4ju I replayed the original FF7 and instantly fell in love again.
Great soundtrack, memorable characters, compelling storyline. Well crafted and satisfying turn based RPG gameplay.
finally another kino video to listen too. I was wondering if you were gonna make a video of this!
Ew don’t call it kino, that’s our word.
You're the first one I've ever heard talking about the merger like that. You're saying what I've been saying from the beginning.
What I thought would be awesome, merging Squaresoft's epic storytelling with the innovative gameplay of Enix's IPs, ended up being a huge disappointment. Stories stopped being epic and the gameplay design started mimicking what was already out there.
i cant believe i only just now found this channel, its like its my brain talking to me, well done video and i agree with everything you said
I'm surprised and pleased to see more people come out hating on this compilation shit. I got crucified by "nu square" fans when I said the remake was bullshit. I have ALWAYS said enix merge was the point where the developer went straight to hell.
My god, thank you for existing dude...keep preaching and let the elephant in the room out. Every single thing you mentioned in this video I whole heartedly agree.
Would love to see you rip the new game to shreds tbh
Lots of companies lost their passion after ps3/xbox 360 era. Really sad
100% Agreed with your assessment of SquareEnix as company.
My friend, you are not alone on this. I agree with every word you said.
Oh man it feels so good to hear this. It's exactly what I think and then some.
You know, I'm a big fan of FF8. And I'm kinda glad that Square is not interested in ever touching it again.
A FF7 Remake is LITERALLY the easiest project that could have ever been created. An exact copy of the original PSX game, completely redone graphically, zero additional story elements, with modern QoL adjustments like speed up battles a bit. Add a few little extras, like an option to use an orchestrated soundtrack, or some kind of fun throwback blocky PSX character models. That's it. Winner of best game ever. Best company ever. Easiest.business.decision.ever. An absolute slam dunk w/ the glass backboard shattering into a million pieces. They make billions and their stock is through the roof.
But no. Just let Nomura destroy it all.
I wasn't personally opposed to a remake. I was fully expecting a new gameplay style considering JRPGs seem like a harder sell nowadays unless they're ADHD adjacent like, idk, Pokemon or Persona 5. My issue came from those god awful Whisper moments. You wanna expand on the AVALANCHE members? Cool. Wanna show us more SOLDIER dudes? Okay. Stupid as fuck compilation sequel inclusions? Fuck off. It really wasn't that hard to make your game titled "Remake" an actual remake, but whatever. They already lost us
Words cannot express the hate I have for Nomura. He just has to ruin everything he gets his hands on
It was actually Kitase and Nojima, Nomura was working on KH3 another disaster. 😂
Another game company should buy the rights and do it.
You are absolutely delusional if you believe repackaging FF7 without changes would somehow net them a massive payday.
They already made their money off that game 25 years ago.
You are seriously not right in the head if you think you can ride your business on that.
You would end up fired if you were the director.
Now there's a highly sexualized Tifa figure so its not that hard to figure out its all abt fanservice now.
This aged well.
it was a few hours into my first playthrough of my preordered copy of FF13 when it ended
Final Fantasy used to create art and cash came as a result. Now they only think how can we optimize cash using imagery from past popular games.
*Im digging this channel, I’m surprised and amazed at the sub count but all the good ones gotta start somewhere.*
Wow. I'm not alone- been playing the ff series from day one (in America anyway) and have completed most of them to 12. And I agree 100% they've destroyed their IP and continue to exploit the name without end. 10 and 12 were the last decent games in the series. 10 gave gave me high hopes for the newer generation of ff... but then they put out x-2 which was a joke! 12 rekindled my love for the series but then I remember when xiii came out... how disappointing that was! what a lousy excuse for a game. The saddest part is: that I eventually used to go out and buy these weak ass games with the hopes and prayers that maybe this time they got it right. 15 almost did it but it just felt wrong. Another thing I can not stomach anymore is the absolute bought and paid for support that reviewers give as a community. RIP FF
For me the series definitely fell off after FF13. I have some hope for FF16 because they have a competent team making it in the FF14 team but we shall see. I do agree though that they’ve but trying to milk FF7 way too much.
ffx-2 battle system was actually top notch, its just the wierd story that dragged it down
XIV is great too
Honestly, I love the direction that ff7R is going in right now but I can appreciate your takes on it too. I feel like the Yufie dlc is just about world-building. Like it doesn't look like she'll interact with the original cast at this point so why not just show what she was doing during that time. Also, I think they just showed off deep ground stuff for shock appeal and it won't play a huge role in the future of the game. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. From someone who loved this game, I can appreciate criticism because I think we all just want it to be great. Good video.
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It's just a cash grab that should been in the main game like the KH3 ending dlc.
They need to cancel it.
“Show don’t tell”
We don’t need to know in detail or see what yuffie was doing anymore than we needed to know what Zach was doing in crisis core. The best bits of storytelling is showing just enough in regards to the past and FF7OG did this perfectly. It’s the same reason we don’t need to see a FF10 prequel of braskas pilgrimage, because we already know everything we need to by playing X.
I'm glad to have found your channel! You speak for the gamer who just wants to game to escape reality, the way it was meant to be.
You can literally do that.....it’s still a video game
Well said. Absolutely my thoughts exactly. This franchise is dead. FFVII was my favorite game of all time, and they killed it.
because business...
its amazing what they have done. i have no idea how they arrive at decisions. this shows that the vision of the company informs the content exactly. i want to kill Chaos??!!? WTF
Sakaguchi isn't around anymore so ....
Game is still there to play. Didn't kill anything
@@zelohendricks51 it is it's just a FF7 anime with fan service
Thank you, you managed to put all of my problems with this game and franchise into one video. I have never agreed with someone about something so much.
The Final Fantasy franchise is being milked to death in real time right before our eyes and the mindless sheep are oblivious to it.
You mean FF7, all the other FFs outside of 14 barely get enough love compared to 7.
I'm a little late to this, and I'm sorry that this is my third reply to this video alone, but Square Enix cannot stop digging their grave through this game.
In The Game Awards, they said FF7 Remake is releasing to PC... as an Epic Games Store Exclusive. And to make matters worse, its cost is being bumped up to $70. Yes, the base cost, no deluxe editions, no DLC, whether you bought any of it on Playstation or not. It doesn't help that the PC version is about as bug-free as a Bethesda game, but I guess it's superior because some people figured out how to mod Cloud's gloves off...?
As for Part 2, with Nomura finally gone from the Director's chair, replaced my Naoki Hamaguchi, you'd think things would get better down the line. Unfortunately, Naoki Hamaguchi was the one who came up with the idea to make the Compilation of FF7 canon in FF7 Remake, and *he will use Nomura as his main consultant for Parts 2 and beyond.* Plus, he directed that sorry excuse of a DLC, including all the *four* post-credit scenes.
Fucking hell, this game and its endless supply of sequels are going to age like the League of Nations. I'm not even rooting for it to improve anymore, I will happily watch it burn to the ground.
8:05 "While Gackt plays in the background". BASED.
The failure of FF Spirits Within ushered in an opportunity for corporate interest to command decision making at Square. The company no longer retains the talent that put them on the map and any talent that resides within is tainted by those left in charge now.
Sakaguchi directed Spirits Within
100% right. We have the same oppinion.
here's the deal. The longer you're a fan of japanese gaming, the longer you become adjusted to punishment.
Japanese game devs literally have the worst business minds in the entire tech-based consumer market. Square enix is just another notch in the belt of misery.
I've just almost randomly stumbled upon this video while watching relevant to the topic, and I really liked the words author put here, to rephrase them: original FF franchise was about a vision. Now it's mostly only to appeal to anime fans.
Good thing that at least FF 16 spared me this teenage horny edgy anime style, where characters are adults in behaviour and actually can die. FF7R... gosh.
SquareSoft would take the same approach as SQEX is taking today. I think the blame isn't exclusive to the new era of the company (as of FFX-2, like you said), but to the industry as a whole. Think about the big picture like indirect competitors like The Pokémon Company: 0 Effort cashgrabs.
Great video! I see that the salt levels have risen even higher in this comment section since I’ve been gone... had to create a new account. The lifespans of my UA-cam accounts seem to get shorter and shorter... still need to setup an odyssey account...
even though I am a bit of a weeb coomer who devours all this nomura stuff, I have to say you are a master orator who has convinced me to at least be embarrassed at my mindless consumption of squeenix offerings.
TBYS sent be to you.
Square Enix has been making unpolished bland garbage for 20 years now.
Their fans developed an acquired taste for that garbage, that’s why you see them defending FF7R and FF16
They actually think FF16 is a serious contender for goty KEKW
While I think you are 100% correct, I think the argument could be a little better structured. I get you’re mad, I’m also very disappointed with what’s happening to the series, I think we need clearer points. For example, this is definitely fan service and anime garbage that is just a pile of tropes, but it might be more productive to explain what these are and compare them directly to better examples of FF story.
Again though, you’re right. And it’s a shame.
Totally agree with you. He even gets angrier if you call him off... Lols. Too bad because he's got real good points there, which if done with better structure can reach more people.
Rent free
@@PtolemySL ?
I'd love to see another video from you on square as of today because they seem to have gotten even worse.. Their games are just becoming so low quality / low budget with a massive focus on live service.
100% agree with everything you said here
🌸❤️I wish I had come across this sooner. Well done.❤️🌸
I like your choice of FF7 ost tracks in this video.
Best game i ever played it got me interested so much that I'm now almost done with the original and finished crisis core idk what exactly you people want 😂
Incredible video man 👍
Bro you said everything ive wanted to articulate to so many people! I will be sharing this video. You were spot on 2 years ago. Look at the crisis core remake that everyone has eaten up. I have wanted a FF9 remake for many many years. But after what i saw happen to FF7, i hope to GOD they never touch it again. Leave it alone i dont' want it anymore.
@Sai FF9 is rumored to be in production and it's supposed to stay closer to the original (story and battle system).
@@Stephan5916 If thats the case its exciting news thank you! Still cautious though.
Hilariously enough, I know of waifu wank simulators with competent writing. Some of the Senran Kagura games actually have competent character writing that emphasizes concepts of heroism and responsibility. I'm referring primarily to the two DS games. I'm just saying that there are these mostly garbage fanservice games that still manage to have original stories with important moral concepts woven into them, along with some occasionally good character writing. FF7 Remake may even hit a slightly lower tier of lowest common denominator entertainment. Nostalgia and boobs are some of the absolute cheapest ways to try and sell things to people.
Absolute FACTS!
There’s a bit here I find odd. Criticism with the “weeaboo fan fare” didn’t start with X-2. It started with arguably with Tifa. Or in VII where Hojo tried to breed Aerith with Red XIII. It seems criticism that is very pointed to try and get your point in. VII changed things for them as from then on Square was testing waters with Sakaguchi’s vision vs Kitase’s. VIII & X were Kitase’s vision with even more attention to ass shots per character ratio.
The argument for taking advantage of the FF name is fair as it happened when management changed. It took Kitase & Nomura and allowed them to be the creative figureheads of the new Square. I too don’t care for it, but X is also part of that. XII is probably the last of the original vision.
Amen !! I don't know you guy, but freaking, fucking, AMEN to everything you said. I'm no native english speaker. But the 33 years old, eternal fan of FF7 couldn't said it better than you did.
FF are dead, but worse than that SE is using this licence dead body to milk money using the good reputation earned on Squaresoft dead body to sell utter shit crap, disgusting cynical mockery of FF.
It's disgusting and horrible to see...
Thank you for this video. Amazing.
The best Square Enix these days weren't even developed by Square Enix.
Squaresoft>Square Enix
The best Square Enix games are being released on Nintendo Switch (Octopath Traveler, Bravely Default, the new strategy RPG just announced).
What about FFXIV and DQ11 ?
@@Bahamut-bj3bh Those are definitely the exception nowadays. Maybe the Trails of Mana remake as well.
Facts. Nier Automata.
Huge FFX fan - I didn’t have a PS1 cause N64 baby. Everything here is perfectly worded, I don’t know if the merger was the reason for the decline, but FFX was really the end line for good game from them.
Wasn’t final fantasy vii always super anime? I mean it’s the game that made Emos with giant swords a norm for JRPGs or so I believe.
I agree. I even heared the merger of Enix and Square was a failure. This is coming from the company it's self. They know they messed up and the hardcore fans get payed for it. While we tell Square this is wrong. The people that pay these games are telling Sqaure yes keep doing this. Which is bs. KH3 should have been a 10 out of 10, FFXV should have been 10 out of 10 or at least 8 out of 10. This company does not know how to make games and they made them.
I recommend a video called What happen to Final Fantasy. It's made by St1ka. Everything in that video tells what happened to Sqaure and this was plan when the creator of Final Fantasy left the company
Squaresoft: golden era of jrpgs.
Enix: made Star Ocean 2 that I love.
Squeenix: *groans in pain*