Halo's Future is Spin-off Games

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
  • With conflicting rumors that the next Halo game could be a remake of Combat Evolved or an unnamed 'Halo 7', it seems 343 Industries has learned nothing from their past mistakes. Despite the massive potential of the Halo franchise to tell new spin-off stories outside the mainline series, there's no indication that this is happening. Why are Microsoft and 343 sitting on this goldmine of ideas?
    Twitter: @LaperLarden
    Timestamps
    0:00 Intro - Halo is in trouble
    5:15 Unmet expectations
    7:59 The ODST blueprint
    8:40 Arguments for spin-offs
    10:58 The Star Wars/DC comparison
    14:32 Genres Halo can tackle
    15:52 Flood horror-survival
    16:36 ODST/Marine game
    17:07 Other Spartan teams
    17:35 Elites and other aliens
    17:57 Regularity of releases
    20:18 Other Halo content
    22:26 The mishandling of Halo
    26:11 Halo's potential
    #halo #haloinfinite #343
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  • @iNabber
    @iNabber 3 дні тому +99

    an arbiter game is all we need

    • @eticket48
      @eticket48 3 дні тому +4

      Dude playing a halo souls like as an arbiter would literally go so hard

    • @Ho_Lee_Fook
      @Ho_Lee_Fook 3 дні тому +1

      Hi mister nabber I wholeheartedly agree

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому +13

      Getting Keith David on the phone rn.

    • @yolsil775
      @yolsil775 3 дні тому

      343i HATES elites, we will never get that, unfortunately.

    • @obamajoker7166
      @obamajoker7166 3 дні тому

      We're never getting a fps spinoff

  • @BaggyFTJ
    @BaggyFTJ 3 дні тому +111

    Let's honestly be real here:
    No matter how hard we scream for all of this, none of this is going to happen because of a very simple fact:
    Microsoft and 343 DO NOT CARE. If both parties cared, we'd be seeing new and exciting material on a regular basis but their current mindset of hesitancy and laziness has convinced them to continue making numbered entries only.
    Spin offs arent possible with MS current status as a gaming company. With all the nonsense and lies they pulled with the closure of Tango and a bunch of others, especially when one of those studios had a breakout success of a game...Do you really expect them to want to take risks? I think we both know the answer to that.
    With CoD being owned by MS, that's all they will care about going forward whilst all their mainline original IPs are left to die either because of bad design or bombing because of Day One Gamepass.
    I absolutely understand your passion and alot of others but we do need to face the reality of things. The best thing for those who actually care, is to focus on getting people to play more of MCC because that is where Halo can flourish as an IP slowly turning into a niche.
    That's the best shot for the IP under MS and 343s absolute mess of handling this franchise.

    • @KylePhantomK94
      @KylePhantomK94 3 дні тому +7

      Microsoft and 343 are one and the same, people need to get that through their heads.

    • @jonny45k44
      @jonny45k44 3 дні тому +6

      Microsoft keeps interjecting it's greed whenever one of their developers starts cooking

    • @ThelVadam7777
      @ThelVadam7777 3 дні тому +2

      O7
      No more hopium

    • @mastersith3523
      @mastersith3523 3 дні тому

      When 343 gets hate so often it’s no wonder they’re afraid to be more proactive.

    • @jonny45k44
      @jonny45k44 3 дні тому +6

      @@mastersith3523 They gotta prove they can do better first

  • @rm25088
    @rm25088 3 дні тому +216

    Halo isn't going anywhere with 343 behind the wheel. They have destroyed the franchise.

    • @citizen4610
      @citizen4610 3 дні тому +22

      fire 343

    • @KylePhantomK94
      @KylePhantomK94 3 дні тому +13

      Microsoft and 343 are one and the same, people need to get that through their heads.

    • @rm25088
      @rm25088 3 дні тому +2

      @@KylePhantomK94 Well then fire Microsoft.

    • @KylePhantomK94
      @KylePhantomK94 3 дні тому +4

      @@rm25088 Good luck firing an entire corporation. It's like trying to fire Disney for fucking up Star Wars.

    • @rm25088
      @rm25088 3 дні тому +1

      @@KylePhantomK94 I know it was a joke. The best thing people could do is stop putting up with and buying their shitty games.

  • @akaneki7234
    @akaneki7234 3 дні тому +54

    7:38 "Time, Money, Resources or all of the above" you forgot the most crucial part; they don't have the Expertise.

    • @trashjash
      @trashjash 3 дні тому +3

      Can't forget the passion either.

  • @xxsb101xx
    @xxsb101xx 3 дні тому +24

    Do not associate fanfiction with the TV show, there are actually numerous decent and good pieces of fanfiction, they don't deserve to be lumped with thing we got as a show.

    • @tylerc4484
      @tylerc4484 3 дні тому +3

      Yeah, like Halo: Shattered Resolve

  • @mawkishwarden172
    @mawkishwarden172 3 дні тому +35

    I mean...Halo Wars 2 is IMO the best 343-era Halo (and I'm giving that to Creative Assembly), so that tracks.
    But realistically, I think Halo's future is just the dumpster at this point.

  • @lordofligma
    @lordofligma 3 дні тому +65

    We need a Halo dating simulator

    • @HoldenRoss808
      @HoldenRoss808 3 дні тому +16

      “Miranda winks at you. Do you:
      A.) wink back under your helmet
      B.) tell her “you have your mother’s eyes”
      Or C.) Send her straight to Valhalla for interfering with the mission”

    • @scouttrooper2871
      @scouttrooper2871 3 дні тому +14

      Cortana winks at you. Do you:
      A) Ravish her
      B) Seduce her
      C) M41 SPNKr

    • @kalui96
      @kalui96 3 дні тому +9

      @@scouttrooper2871 Don't make a girl a promise you can't keep

    • @This-is-a-commentt
      @This-is-a-commentt 3 дні тому +3

      The halo ai dating sim:
      Circ is the best character

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому +14

      I'm 100%ing the Halo 4 Cortana storyline for... Research purposes.

  • @kalui96
    @kalui96 3 дні тому +13

    If Halo Wars 3 counts, then I'm all for it
    We still have MCC, so the proven Halo games are there. And the Rated-T-E-Sports-Infinite is still around too.
    I've been disappointed so much for so long that I don't trust that Halo 6 will inspire me

  • @E1iTeKi113rX
    @E1iTeKi113rX 2 дні тому +6

    I want a deadspace type halo game where you play as a Marine with storying telling and a setting like the motion comic "The Mona Lisa".

  • @Admin-5
    @Admin-5 3 дні тому +24

    I have been yelling for years now since halo 3 odst, I want to see a halo flood horror game where you play as an odst. You got limited ammo and you gotta find health packs to regain health and gonna replace the filters on your helmet or something. It can start as fighting the covenant but just like in 3 the flood just show up. Now it’s a fight to extract from the overrun city. The multiplayer can be similar to left 4 dead campaign.

  • @MrWaifuTaker
    @MrWaifuTaker 3 дні тому +11

    I want to see other developers make games based off the Halo IP from Indie devs to guys like either Grasshopper Manufacture/Platinum Games or Microsoft's other 800 studios like ID Software.
    Unfortunately it's so damn unlikely.

    • @GeeWee700
      @GeeWee700 3 дні тому

      I think I rather make an original sci-fi shooter without aliens or make them rare but the real enemy is terminators but not make them all silver and grey, I’ll do it someday with my company

  • @TheDirtyCubeMan
    @TheDirtyCubeMan 3 дні тому +15

    I just don't think spin offs or this expansion of Halo's universe will happen the way we would like it as long as microsoft continues to be in charge and 343 continues to remain incompetent.
    Halo Infinite and the Halo tv show are clear signs no one knows what they're doing with Halo and hearing that a Halo CE remaster or remake just makes me even more skeptical. I mean whose to say it wont just be another "reaching of the broader audience" type game with battle passes, shops and the sweaty sprint/slide mechanics that put people off from Halo Infinite in the first place? Whose to say it wont butcher the story or rather just be more retconning of Bungie's Halo in an attempt to replace it with 343's own incomprehensible stories that nobody has liked ever since Halo 4 and beyond?
    Of course... then there's Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard along with other studios that just tell me they're not interested in expanding on Halo or rather fixing the damage that's been done... they would rather focus on pushing things like Call of Duty for game pass... trust me, I want Halo to be good again but history has made me extremely skeptical about any new Halo content coming out. I cannot relate to other Halo youtubers expressing joy or excitement at a Halo CE remake or remaster along with the "future of Halo". I'm just waiting for 343/Microsoft to prove me wrong (which I want them to do).

  • @gavinrobinson8925
    @gavinrobinson8925 3 дні тому +7

    Correction: 343 have the time money and resources. They are just incompetent in literally every other way.

  • @Mr.man1227
    @Mr.man1227 3 дні тому +7

    I think a battlefield type game set during the human covenant war would be a huge success. You could pick from different classes of marines, like battlefield, but you could also get the options of playing as an odst or spartan if you played well enough, like battlefront.

  • @abyssal-labs
    @abyssal-labs 3 дні тому +5

    As long as it’s not 343 making it halo has a future

  • @levi22es
    @levi22es 3 дні тому +5

    I laughed harder than I should at “mustard beef connection.”

  • @777amj
    @777amj 3 дні тому +44

    Halo Wars 3
    ODST 2 (obviously not with Rookie)
    Flood Survival Horror
    Stealth focused Elite game
    3rd person hack and slash/shooter Elite game
    Kilo 5 focused games
    These are just a few ideas. Halo is so RICH with content to explore and expand. Also, I think different devs might alleviate some of those rigid expectations of a Halo game for it to ONLY follow Chief and stay with the relatively same gameplay model.

    • @kalui96
      @kalui96 3 дні тому

      Hey, let's put you in charge of 343 with supreme power lol jk

    • @Hurdle11C
      @Hurdle11C 3 дні тому

      An open world adventure in the vein of Fallout that takes place on a ring.
      A VR game, even if semi on rails that includes piloting/driving/turret gunning and some on foot defense missions.
      Headhunters game. Insert, work your way to the HVT, kill and move to extraction.

    • @ArufisuIsRuru
      @ArufisuIsRuru 3 дні тому

      I want halo games that also adapt the novels/media(exception the recent TV show) into a game as well. They should take that opportunity but I doubt it that will be very unlikely but who knows.
      Its also can be very good starting point for newer fans introduction to halo

    • @volt42re
      @volt42re 3 дні тому

      I had an idea for a “Halo: Reach 2” following the original Noble Team where you jump between their perspectives in different missions.

  • @Greg-df5ut
    @Greg-df5ut 3 дні тому +5

    I think it might have been you who said this in a previous video, but I would love to see a covert ops/ wave shooter headhunter game. Almost like how payday you can go in quiet or loud, I want to see one where you can go solo, or duo (with a bot or other player) to do missions and by playing you can unlock cosmetics for your spartan or better gear to bring in for the next mission. I think this could be lots of fun

  • @EatThePath-7
    @EatThePath-7 3 дні тому +3

    This franchise has been on dire need of another developer since Bungie left. I'm not even saying to drop 343 (though at this point, is hard to argue why they shouldn't be) just have another studio also working on games a la Infinity Ward and Treyarch for Call of Duty.
    Sadly i'm not sure if we are too late to see anything like that. I will be surprised if Halo holds anywhere the same level of priority for Microsoft at this point with so many studios and more popular IPs on their hands.

  • @ironsidemedia
    @ironsidemedia 3 дні тому +1

    I know it will never happen, but I would love to see a game centered around the storyline of our favorite, cigar chompingest sergeant, A. J. Johnson. I imagine it starting with flashback missions during his time as a marine, onto his ONI black ops days. Maybe some Orion stuff sprinkled in, with the climax of the game being his actions on Harvest. Could bridge the gap between those who want something new, and those who want the familiar.

  • @MasteringJohn
    @MasteringJohn 3 дні тому +1

    I think a Dragon Age: Origins-style RPG where you can play as a variety of different species/factions could be pretty interesting. Between the UNSC, shattered remnants of the Covenant, the Banished, the Sangheili, and human insurrectionists, there's a lot of potential for different sorts backstories and questlines. Get some great writers to bulk-up the worldbuilding and characterization, and we could get some fascinatingly diverse story arcs.
    On the gameplay end of it, different species/faction origins could counterbalance your character's stats/gear (Kig-yar: Increased accuracy, lower health, bargaining/theft buffs, etc), as well as affect their relationships with other characters and factions throughout the game.

  • @De1h_
    @De1h_ День тому +2

    This is a great video man I'm happy to have found you a few months ago you are a great voice and Halo Community without being a complete annoyance. You actually put up a competent discussion not an argument. I have the same thoughts about Halo games for years. I've made multiple friends watch Halo Legends that don't even play the main Halo games that have only played one or two matches and they have watched Halo Legends multiple times now

  • @Wernissage
    @Wernissage 2 дні тому

    You really hit the nail on the head here. Getting a mainline game every 5 years only for it to release unfinished just isn’t doing it anymore. Halo’s community is so incredibly alive, especially considering it’s survived through MASSIVE droughts and disappointments. So getting these smaller projects in-between is such a natural fit for this community, seeing as we’re always grasping for more Halo content, whatever it may be.
    And Halo getting its own Andor would go so unbelievably hard😭

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  2 дні тому

      *"I burn my life, to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see."* Andor is deadass the best thing to come out of the Star Wars franchise (asides from Season 7 of the Clone Wars) since the Disney acquisition. Playing as Chief or a Spartan often feels like the battles are being glamorised, if that makes sense? You rock up, blow up the bad guys in a few minutes, save the day and then ride off into the sunset. Whereas, I want a Halo story that has you in the trenches, seeing everything up close, battles are long, gruelling and often lead to a loss. There's no Master Chief coming to save the day - but there's still an inkling of hope. I want to see how the normal citizens of humanity live, knowing that at any random day, a fleet of ships could jump out of slipspace and destroy everything and everyone you've ever known and loved.

  • @mileator
    @mileator 7 годин тому +1

    Haven't started the video yet but just from your title and thumbnail I can also say that I believed Mass Effect had a future in spinoffs after the third game. I thought Mass Effect was going to be like Star Wars before the sequels.
    Countless events happening years before the reaper invasion while playing other characters beside or totally seperated from the mainline games.

  • @justinmusicstuff6819
    @justinmusicstuff6819 3 дні тому

    I always wanted a Grey Team spin-off. A team of 3 Spartans so far behind enemy lines that they cannot be recalled or contacted once on mission

  • @DayyyumSon
    @DayyyumSon 3 дні тому +4

    343 and Microsoft killed halo a long time ago.

  • @xscignorethestuffinquotes7487
    @xscignorethestuffinquotes7487 3 дні тому +1

    I really believe the community is single-handidly carrying Halo rn. You along side it. I love all of your videos, man! Each one is very fun to watch and listen to!

  • @maximus4765
    @maximus4765 3 дні тому +2

    This. Same for Fallout, if the IP handlers had any sense.

  • @IllegalTumor
    @IllegalTumor 3 дні тому +1

    Im gonna be a dementia-ridden great grandparent by the time we get some good fucking food from this studio. And worse, i’ll probably just mistake it for bungie work and that im back in the 2000s

  • @Fruffles71
    @Fruffles71 3 дні тому +7

    I do mis it when halo was more of a gritty story the vibe hasn't been the same after reach

    • @Sgto.Wolvington
      @Sgto.Wolvington 3 дні тому

      Just like Gears of war

    • @volt42re
      @volt42re 3 дні тому

      I think Halo 4 did plenty to earn its M rating that people tend to overlook, but the T rated games have absolutely failed to create any real impact with their storytelling. The dead Spartans in Infinite are cool, sure, and it’s a little unsettling to see them so often, but without any real blood the moments don’t feel nearly as powerful as they could be. You’re seeing limp suits of armor that give you new equipment, not fallen soldiers.

  • @michaellane5381
    @michaellane5381 3 дні тому +1

    Agreed... I still say it is almost criminal we never had a Kig Yar Space Pirate game in the mold of Mass Effect 2/ Extraction Shooters.
    Imagine looting worlds involved in massive firefights before they get glassed using whatever race/unit you managed to recruit, trying to escape flood infested Asteroids, raid planets like Reach or Harvest, orbital stations, or ships.
    Alternatively UNSC vs the Separatist faction could be as reinvigorating as the WW2 CoD games were for that series.

    • @gavinrobinson8925
      @gavinrobinson8925 3 дні тому

      Shooting humans in halo sounds great but only shooting humans would be kind of boring for halo game imo, part of what makes the games so good is the variety of things to shoot at. A space pirate game however, that does sound very cool.

    • @michaellane5381
      @michaellane5381 2 дні тому

      @@gavinrobinson8925 true, which is why I suspect any UNSC/Separatist game would involve space combat as well as a different UI for either a more puzzle based game, an X-com like TBS/RTS, or something else to justify the mechanics like a "zombies" mode.
      Likely the weapons loadout would be dumbed down as well with various melee weapons and weaker weapons in general to start with.

    • @gavinrobinson8925
      @gavinrobinson8925 2 дні тому

      @@michaellane5381 Ok, now I'm just confused. Do you want a puzzle game, an RTS or a fps with a firefight/zombies mode? And why a zombies mode for a separatist game? Wouldn't that make way more sense for a flood spin-off?

    • @michaellane5381
      @michaellane5381 2 дні тому

      @@gavinrobinson8925 my answer is yes, I would want any of the above(one at a time obviously, not all in one game), as for zombies, because of the limited toolkit, if your weapons suck and the zombies have a lower ceiling it completely changes the game from a zombie centric game where we play as Spartans, infection forms and pure forms become much scarier while the normal combat forms seem less scary holding weaker weapons, which allows for better scaling diversity.

    • @gavinrobinson8925
      @gavinrobinson8925 День тому

      @@michaellane5381 I still don't see how that has anything to do with insurrectionists.

  • @ssjcheif
    @ssjcheif 3 дні тому +1

    Man i wished they could do a Halo Lengends 2. Its been a decade and theyre a whole new generation of artists that can add theyre flavor to halos expansive universe.

  • @user-dz6tc5oc9x
    @user-dz6tc5oc9x 3 дні тому

    I want a game where you play as a marine trying to survive on earth with your squad whilst being hunted by a group of camp elites.

  • @RatSentinel
    @RatSentinel День тому +1

    I'd kill for a Halo vehicle game like Ace Combat or Project WIngman holy shit

  • @TRG_R17
    @TRG_R17 3 дні тому

    What is the music that plays in the other spartan teams chapter?

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому

      Pretty sure that's either Overture or Winter Contingency from Reach's soundtrack.

    • @TRG_R17
      @TRG_R17 3 дні тому

      @@LaperLarden It's overtune

  • @Orion_003
    @Orion_003 День тому +1

    Great ideas all, but It’s painful to watch because given 343 history they would never do these things.

  • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
    @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 2 дні тому +1

    If that means more H3 ODST and/or REACH then *Count me In!*

  • @NightBeWheat
    @NightBeWheat День тому

    I would pay a lot of money for an Ace Combat styled arcade flight game with a campaign, vehicles, multiplayer, etc.
    Including:
    The Longsword family
    The Baselard
    The Nandao
    Some Pelican gunship types
    The Broadsword
    The Sabre
    Shortsword bomber
    Hornet/Falcon/Wasp (maybe?)
    And covenant air/space craft like Banshees, Phantoms, Seraphs, etc.

  • @ForeignSpazm
    @ForeignSpazm 2 дні тому

    I want a Halo TV series that is is called “Spartans.” Each episode shows a spartan or spartan team doing a mission. Each episode is its own little arc with the main overall arc progressing. Like imagine the Mando show but one episode is Linda sneaking on a covenant cruiser to plant a bomb, next episode could be a spartan 3 team extracting a government official. I miss episodic shows that each episode had its own enclosed arc not knowing what you might get next week. The format would allow to explore the lore and characters in a more engaging way than what the heretic paramount created.

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  2 дні тому +1

      Solid idea. Sounds an awful lot like what Spartan Ops should've been in Halo 4.

  • @HerrDerpington
    @HerrDerpington 2 дні тому

    They don't have to pay me to think of stuff: Sony shat the bed with Helldivers. Give me ODST2 PvE. Halo Wars 2 on Steam. Halo Infinite Expansion.

  • @tombblades
    @tombblades 3 дні тому

    We need a free to play multiplayer halo that will last for 10 years. Then we need campaign only games every two years

  • @KrisKlicks
    @KrisKlicks 3 дні тому +2

    this editing is inspiring

  • @Lucas-lq9cn
    @Lucas-lq9cn 3 дні тому

    ive always thought that a battlefield war stories like halo game would be really cool not one main campaign but 3-4 smaller mini campaigns each telling new and different story

  • @filataurus5975
    @filataurus5975 2 дні тому

    Very underappreciated video so far, most of the things said here were absolutely right and that's what bothers me the most. It's mind bothering that 343 doesn't take any feedback at all, it isn't just this channel but larger ones like HiddenXperia, Halofollower or Installation00 as well which pointed out so so many things they could've added or expended upon which all have millions of Halo fans backing them and their opinions/ideas. Yet nothing ever happened out of a perfect franchise that was handed to 343 on a silver plate, so genuinely frustrating.

  • @mastersith3523
    @mastersith3523 3 дні тому

    After Infinite’s great campaign and the cry from fans for a new game or dlc it’s clear a mainline title is the direction to go in. But spin-offs would be amazing. Whether it’s from 343 directly or another studio with their oversight. The only problem is that it feels like 343 is backed into a corner as the fanbase is so divided and when they do anything it feels like some portion isn’t happy. Idk I am hoping for the best because I love this series.

  • @NotKameron
    @NotKameron 22 години тому

    I’d love to see a game expanding on the team elements in halo 5 campaign sorta like republic commando but you play as some Spartan 3 fireteam in SPI armor or the odst squad etc etc

  • @lukemusa2687
    @lukemusa2687 13 годин тому

    A game about the interplanetary wars or the attack on harvest playing as a marine would be pretty good

  • @clappagemcphee
    @clappagemcphee День тому +1

    God, your channel is such a fucking banger. Keep on keeping on, mate

  • @Jacob-360
    @Jacob-360 3 дні тому +1

    Another great video worth the 2 month wait, what’s not worth the long wait is waiting for some good news about Halo. Halo fans deserve better 😔

  • @BurnedHeretic
    @BurnedHeretic 2 дні тому

    Thanks for showing RingWorld: Alpha and crediting it in the video. We are working hard to create an authentic Halo experience built by fans for fans. Love the video, keep up the good work!

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  2 дні тому

      You're doing the Forerunner's work. Thank you!

  • @VindensSaga
    @VindensSaga 3 дні тому +1

    I would like to see a Halo in game style of Helldivers - and a game that mixes FPS with RTS like Silica. I would also like a Halo game similar to Alien Isolation. The potential is endless, I don't understand why 343 have been so bad with this. ArmA like Halo game? Yeah!

  • @CohenHedin
    @CohenHedin 3 дні тому

    1:08 Brooooooo... how have I not noticed that they have used the exact same poses with them 3 times

  • @J4CKC00P3R
    @J4CKC00P3R День тому

    I wouldn’t mind a long gap between games so much if the games we got at the end of them were actually solid. Instead they’re just sort of meh, and it makes the long wait seem wasted

  • @sofaking1627
    @sofaking1627 3 дні тому

    I'm not turning out for any Halo project with 343's stamp on it.
    Been here since CE, fell off after Halo 4, came back to see Infinite and I'm beyond disappointed with myself for circling back to see how Halo was doing.

  • @thetower8553
    @thetower8553 2 дні тому

    I remember being excited for MCC even more than 5 when they were announced. What an absolute clown I was

  • @nicholasshealy9040
    @nicholasshealy9040 3 дні тому

    I apologize if this is a little off topic, but the “Time for change?” in the thumbnail is exactly why I think we need new enemy factions (Endless) in the next game. We need something new to fight in Halo 7, as opposed to fighting the Covenant or Flood for the millionth time in a row. Not saying I don’t want the Flood to return in the next mainline game, but I digress.
    And considering the Banished are SUPPOSED to be a faction entirely different from the Covenant, why not give them more expanded and unique ranks on a similar level to the Grunt Mule? Or hell, why not go through with the Banished Spartans concept? Call me a heretic all you want, but a Banished Spartan or more is one of those things that can differentiate the Banished from the Covenant, and they sound cool as shit.

  • @triplebog
    @triplebog 3 дні тому

    The real reason that spinoffs could be good is if they give 1/10the of the budget and then let the teams experiment
    Part of the problem with AAAA games like infinite is that they put so much money in, and expand the team to be so large that they then need so many more people managing things, at which point it becomes counter productive and all vision and direction gets drowned out

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому

      Apparently, 343 have done a number of "hack-a-thons" where the devs mess around in Halo's engine and try to pull together a new game idea in a short amount of time. Asides from the salary of the devs working during that time, it costs virtually $0 to do that and to see what they come up with (that's how we got the rumoured Halo Starfighter game).
      If ODST can be made in 18 months on H3's engine, then surely 343 could cook something up on Slipspace or Unreal Engine 5 based on one of those hack-a-thon ideas.

  • @50off35
    @50off35 3 дні тому

    Honestly i think if we got a short demo but the setting would be the grunt rebellion

  • @mrkrabskrabs7334
    @mrkrabskrabs7334 3 дні тому

    we need a Halo game that focuses on a marine

  • @jonathanmedina6775
    @jonathanmedina6775 3 дні тому

    I need a game that i can play as Jerome and use a chair like a grav hammer to cut through waves of flood

  • @Mudig
    @Mudig 3 дні тому +2

    Doesn't matter what they put out. With 343 it's bound to be a massive failure

  • @graizur
    @graizur 3 дні тому

    The future of Halo is the past alpha of destiny a server based deformable orb that as becomes war-torn pieces of the orb can be converted into energy that can be converted into armor and the arenas are built by war as is evidenced by the lore and destiny and the shape of the environments since the first campaign.

  • @chavzone
    @chavzone 3 дні тому +1

    Very based take, Halo was at its best when it didn't orbit the Master Chief, he just happened to be one of the best spartans and in the right place at the right time. Unfortunately from a Microsoft marketing perspective, MC is essentially an advertiser's wet dream, an iconic character that will sell copies no matter what "just because". It's a safe bet, but it kills creative originality. It's an industry-wide issue - hell, even music, cinema and TV are suffering the same curse of measuring everything in terms of "sellability", seen through the eyes of business schoolers who've never even played the games in question.
    Corporate consolidation under late capitalism, in this case of the gaming industry, inherently brings these issues to the fore, ironically due to a lack of competition, the very thing the free market is supposed to provide. As we trend towards monopolisation, so too will we see the rise of the "undead" franchise, that's kept on life support but never allowed to die nor evolve, because any risk would look bad to shareholders. The ebb and flow of the artistic medium has become dictated by a managerial class of people who know the price of everything, and the value of nothing...
    But to end on a more hopeful note, gimme Halo Reach 2 (just another game with Spartan IIIs doing crazy dangerous stuff), or XCOM 3: Halo edition, or Helldivers: ODST (what it should always have been)... Halo CE, but from the parallel story of the marines/ODST at Alpha Base's perspective...
    Or how about freaking Dark Souls: Trials of the Arbiter where we go to the Elites' planet in their medieval pre-spaceflight era, with MGSV/Assassin's Creed type gameplay, the Halo 2 artstyle, and a massive, lore-rich story with soft role-playing elements. It can end with the Prophets landing, marking the start of the Covenant...

  • @Hunttiger
    @Hunttiger 3 дні тому +3

    343 should've left Chief and Cortana in the split Forward Unto Dawn for a book, animation, or a GOOD TV series to finish that plotline. I would've loved games set during the Forerunner-Flood war and see the Halo Array under construction. Or a game featuring Thel 'Vadam on Madrigal. Anything other whatever Halo 4 started.

  • @Joshua-lg3th
    @Joshua-lg3th 3 дні тому

    i have always wanted spin off games but we will probably never get them as it will probably wont generate enough retinue because a store is easier to add to a game and get money rather than making a halo game that we would love and do well

  • @weewoahhh
    @weewoahhh 3 дні тому +1

    apolgy for bad english it is my first languagen’t
    where were you when halo die
    i was at house eating dorito when phone ring
    “halo is kil”
    “no”

  • @ThelVadam7777
    @ThelVadam7777 3 дні тому

    I want some halo games about the covenant

  • @lobugatti7526
    @lobugatti7526 3 дні тому

    This is the same thing with Disney; they've been putting out nostalgic remakes of their classic animated films because they can easily gather eyeballs and make quick bucks. However, this isn't sustainable and their quality is usu not as good as the originals. With 343, a remake of CE is clearly the conservative option that gives them the most cash-grabbing potential.
    It's the money they (343 or Microsoft regardless) care about, not the game itself. They lack the long-run vision of keeping a famed franchise alive for future money-making opportunities and instead prefer immediate gains that may end up destroying any hope of reinvigorating Halo. This is a common, basic error not just for the film and gaming industries, but many others as well.

  • @TheSpartan107Official
    @TheSpartan107Official 3 дні тому

    You forget about 343's positions that they are hiring for. Plus they also hired Ex-bungie and OG halo legend Game designer Dan Gnaidy which at this point in halo infinites life span is weird. and in addation with time spans of the positions, there is at least one, maybe two Halo games being worked on at this point, at least dating to TWO months after halo Infinite's full release. Which also explains halo Infinitye sucking after launch since they already moved on.

  • @OMEGANEEDLER
    @OMEGANEEDLER 3 дні тому

    I think it would be nice to see a halo game get made from EA with a bf2 to bf4 styled campaign where we play as a marine or an odst with the battlefield multi-player

  • @cadewalls6014
    @cadewalls6014 3 дні тому +1

    Halo wars 3 🙌

  • @meezemusic
    @meezemusic 3 дні тому

    A Flood horror game would go sooooooooo well!

  • @goobawhoba
    @goobawhoba 3 дні тому +2

    LOL good joke, best we will get is another Halo CE remaster and ports to PS5

  • @skdhaliwal4292
    @skdhaliwal4292 3 дні тому

    Imagine after Gears of War E day trailer they released a Halo Contact Harvest trailer

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому

      Name a more better duo. I'll wait.

  • @adrianthom2073
    @adrianthom2073 2 дні тому

    The Mega Blocks Halo
    Game should be completed and released.

  • @jasperblue2470
    @jasperblue2470 3 дні тому

    So the continuation of halo infinite story ends here? 🥺

  • @Champe19
    @Champe19 3 дні тому +1

    343 making Halo rated T to expand the audience… except nowww no one plays it🤣

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому

      The irony is almost painful 😅

  • @XVII_RONIN
    @XVII_RONIN 3 дні тому

    This is such a banger well done dude

  • @Spid3y_69
    @Spid3y_69 3 дні тому

    we have to fuckin riot at this point

  • @Greez1337
    @Greez1337 3 дні тому

    Co-op shooter where you play as them Grunt spec ops would be hilarious. A Grand Strategy game would be awesome too, where you can take place in battles like in Bannerlord or take control like Total War.
    Thing is, AAA is so messed right now. We're asking behemoths to move on a dime.

  • @ABenAbides
    @ABenAbides 3 дні тому

    Yeah, give me that souls-like starring the Arbiter.

  • @akaneki7234
    @akaneki7234 3 дні тому

    I think the desire for a Flood Horror spin-off and many of the other spin-off ideas i've heard are quite misguided, I think if Halo CE proved anything, it's that the mainline Halo formula is broad enough in it's sandbox design to facilitate those kinds of experiences. I'm not arguing against spin-offs, but I don't want to see a spin-off that only offers an experience that could otherwise be achieved in a regular Halo game; Flood-Horror fits quite squarely in that "already do-able" category.

  • @Vorl0n1
    @Vorl0n1 2 дні тому

    His an idea make a stealth game based off Gen 3 Spartans using SPI Armor

  • @bboyx2456
    @bboyx2456 8 годин тому

    A halo like elder scrolls/borderlands would be fire like you can pick your race n your mercenaries on a planet where all the rces live "peacefully"

  • @Neon9th
    @Neon9th 3 дні тому

    Honestly...a Halo RPG would be dope.

  • @CodyCombat
    @CodyCombat 3 дні тому

    When am I going to get my flood game in the style of alien isolation?

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому

      Creative Assembly made Halo Wars 2 as well as Alien Isolation. Seems like a no brainer to me if there's an existing partnership with MS/343.

  • @MetaVaria
    @MetaVaria 3 дні тому

    Well said!

  • @N7_Bunny
    @N7_Bunny 3 дні тому

    Great video

  • @GlitchyGamers18
    @GlitchyGamers18 3 дні тому

    Halo wars is so underrated man

  • @DeBode206
    @DeBode206 3 дні тому

    They remade Reach (the television series) so why is there any hope for a CE remake…?

  • @theesnowman9265
    @theesnowman9265 3 дні тому

    Halo Wars 3 should have happened by now.

  • @mutegamer6823
    @mutegamer6823 3 дні тому

    I was shocked when the games now were not rated M+ original ce was awesome 😎

  • @JaycodaJr
    @JaycodaJr 4 години тому

    This might be a hot take for many people here, but I gotta say... returning to Destiny 2 after not playing for at least 5 years made me feel a lot better.
    Feels a lot better than modern Halo does right now, at the least.
    343i is so exhausting.
    Despite what many may claim, Bungie still has a soul... and it has the passion to drive it.
    Just returning this past month to the game, I can confidently say I recommend the latest campaign from “The Final Shape” expansion. All the positive reception for it is well-warranted.

  • @SharlaBlades
    @SharlaBlades 3 дні тому

    I'd honestly like too hear some info on the CE remaster. Just cause, all I hear is unreliable leaks saying it's happening.

    • @BaggyFTJ
      @BaggyFTJ 3 дні тому +2

      Thing is, there's no info. CE isn't being remade and it's tiring that the fandom instantly ran with it despite the sources being completely unreliable as you've mentioned.
      The community's obsession with believing leaks is damaging to it's integrity.

    • @LaperLarden
      @LaperLarden  3 дні тому +2

      It's all rumours and hearsay for now. But it goes to show how desperate everyone is for even a crumb of news that's Halo-related.

    • @BaggyFTJ
      @BaggyFTJ 3 дні тому

      @LaperLarden I agree but the community should do better and not blindly believe "trust me bro" levels of absolute nonsense.
      This really isn't doing the IP any benefit.

  • @fortyozsteak
    @fortyozsteak 3 дні тому

    Pierre has no vision for Halo

  • @ArchaiosDragon
    @ArchaiosDragon 3 дні тому

    Why isn't 343 doing anything with Halo? Their studio is in shambles, and rightly so with how much they've blundered the sequels. I imagine Microsoft is begging them to do SOMETHING right at this point, which is why we likely wouldn't see a spinoff until there's a hit mainline game again.

  • @Cheekynandos10087
    @Cheekynandos10087 3 дні тому

    Halo with starwas Republic commando gameplay world be awsome.

    • @evanmanor7444
      @evanmanor7444 3 дні тому

      Erm that's just Halo 5. The Creative Director of Guardians (Tim Longo) was on the Republic Commando team.

  • @HorrorGuy375
    @HorrorGuy375 3 дні тому

    enjoyed your videos man

  • @C6Z_Bob
    @C6Z_Bob 3 дні тому

    I've been saying this ever since Halo 4 came out.

  • @bboyx2456
    @bboyx2456 8 годин тому

    Watch the next one whole map be truth and reconciliation