Xbox Expansion Card vs. SSD vs. HDD - Best Value Memory Option
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Is the $220 expansion card for Xbox Series X/S the only best option for performance?
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I might sound old here, but I think 20 minutes move time and an extra 10 seconds loading sounds perfectly fine to me to save 100 bucks. These storage expansions cost almost as much as the series s I just bought...
but expansion stirage dont need to transfer it can direct play
Yeah I got the series s and it's 99.3 percent full though
I need a bigger card than 1TB
@@forgottens7712 facts only 350gb of usable storage is cancer
I 100% agree
One major point he did not make in this video is if you buy a third party SSD it will NOT run Series X or S optimized games. That can only be done with the internal hard drive and the Seagate Microsoft expandable hard drive.
Thanks bro you answered my Question. This idiot didn’t even truly review those products because I brought 12tb wd Xbox external hard drive and found that out I spent 220 on eBay for it
PS third party SSD/HDD can SAVE Series X/S games for copying to internal later but CANNOT run the games.
@@RX6600-CDPR but it takes 2 minutes to move 50gb game from ssd to the console
Hey man don’t mean to bother you 4 months later but would a later xbox sea gate model work for this such as a version that is advertised as an xbox one version?
Actually, quite a few of the optimised games work fine, even running from an external HDD. For instance, Halo MCC, Ori, Rocket League, Desperados 3 all work fine from my collection. I'm sure there are more as well.
You get the visual and frame rate enhancements, and can use quick resume, just not the loading time boosts.
Only a select handful of games don't work at all externally, and need to be transferred when required. Examples of these are The Medium and Forza Horizon 4.
We're living in a 4-8TB digital world
Xbox: Gotcha, here's 1TB for $220
PS5: You can't even use the option, I said NO!
What do you want exactly?! It's a NVMe Gen 4 1TB proprietary SSD that matchs the exact speed of the internal drive! Phison chips are expensive as hell.
@@zakixbox I want companies to stop squeezing every penny out of me for tech that's now over 43 years old, I also want a viable solution day one and not what somebody seems fit at 1TB when that wasn't even enough for the last 2 console/PC generations, it was $1000 for 64MB in 1991 and now 30 years later with all the advances in tech we're barely above 4TB and it costs $729, how is this fair for all these years, I know companies need to make money but at least with a HDD the price dropped eventually, SSD has a couple of players and they're all slowpoking on purpose IMO, this has got to be the only piece of tech that never losses it value ever, it took almost 20 years to get a 1TB at $100 and even that has to be on sale to be that cheap or used cause it's still $139 new, name some other tech today who's price range never changes no matter the size or competition
@The AGP Cartoon Show not free, options and at a reasonable price and size
id be fine if they made it cheaper, id say $100 because i dont want to spend more than $500 on a console that isnt even 4k and a drive
@@Nomi07 that's the dream
The speed test start at 5:03
Thanks
Thank the maker
MVP
It would take me hours to install a game that size
@@citrus55 he’s not fully installing them, just moving them between different storages which doesn’t use internet
I have a 2tb segate drive, What I plan on doing and recommend to others is have every game you know has a series x upgrade on series x internal and some even if they don’t that you want to look and perform better, Every other game just put on the 2tb and if one of those happen to get a series x|s upgrade just switch it to internal and if you have no more storage go ahead and transfer the least played one to external
That’s exactly what I’m gonna do. You can’t beat the 60 bucks for 2tb.
How does it work? Doesnt slow down the series x?
@@eddieortiz873 no so basically you can offload all your optimized series s|x games on an external hard drive and then when ever you want to play it, move it to the internal drive and it takes 2 minutes
I have a 4tb external seagate drive and yes i had to move cold war, mk11, subnautica, star wars fallen, and dead by deadlight to the internal storage
@@gorillapods9993 I just re installed every series x game into internal and put every thing else external
In a nutshell, get the expansion card if you want to play Series X or Series X Optimized games from it (you can also copy games to the internal drive). Get an external SSD for all previous gen games. You'll still get some speed benefit by running your previous gen and older games off an external SSD.
Get an external hdd not ssd no point paying double for menu loading on last gen games
@@dgma626 youre also limited the usb bus speed with external storage so not really a need to shill for a high speed drive for that reason also
@@dgma626 Actually that’s incorrect. The One X with an external SSD improves loading times significantly compared to the HDD as it’s USB 3.1. Not sure how the One/One S would fair but the X definitely sees an improvement. There’s a reason why people are now SSD swapping One X’s.
Yes, velociraptor speed
You missed the most value point. expansion memory can play series x games
@@quentinjulien7441 I know right and he didn't mention the expansion card is an SSD that is the same as the internal SSD and is utilized with the velocity architecture. You can't play Series games off an external SSD or mechanical hard drive. You can only play backwards compatible games off of them. Also you ain't buying a 2 TB external SSD with the read/write speed of the Expansion or internal SSD for $200
@@krissynjeremy he actually did though.
NOICE!!
Hahahahaha why did I not see this comment sooner
For an Xbox Series S;
Gonna go the 2TB Samsung T5 SSD. About the same price as the 1TB Xbox external.
Or if I’m on a budget, the 1TB Samsung T5 SSD for about half the price.
i got the 1tb t7 and have been loving it
@@JohnSmith-of8um I just got a T7 and I hate it! It doesn't support any of the optimised games which most of mine are.
@@realgroovy24 You did'nt understand what you were buying then.... for one it supports a good number of "xbox series x/s games" I know this for a fact, second, its going to support the same number of x/s games as any other hard drive, you have to buy the xbox expansion card to download all the optimized games rather then some of them. Im sure theres lists online saying what games will and wont work on any external drive
@@JohnSmith-of8um I ended up swapping it for the expansion card
I have a Series S with the 2TB Seagate Game Drive. The complaint about the 20+ minutes data transfer does not really matter, you can still play other games in the meantime, not like last gen, where you had to sit and wait.
I use my HDD just for One/360 games, or for games that I don't play that often. The ingame loading time is the only thing that bothers me to play games direct from the HDD.
Love the expansion card!! Just wish it was a 2TB. Also have a 5TB WD HDD that’s full. They can’t make them big enough.
remove some stuff, jeeez
Are you playing Warzone 2? I’ve heard it takes up 4.5TB of storage, but if you use it with Modern Warfare 5, it takes up 6TB. Maybe that’s why your HDD and your Expansion Card is full. Oh well
@@V1Salvo no where near that much, thankfully. Around 200gb for the last couple of games, but some are less than 100gb with a couple below 10. I got like 300+ games and with Game pass coming around, I’ll have to be doing a lot of deleting and reinstalling unless I buy a new SSD, which is what I plan on doing. Digital Foundry did a whole video on the best SSD’s for Series X. Some rival Microsoft’s own expansion module, just with the caveat that some functions won’t work. Just would like the faster storage option.
You don't need 2tb of fast ssd storage just get a hard drive and keep the games you want to play on the internal ssd
@@mash2481 And how many do u pl, I have 63 on a 2TB
I needed this today.. Just got the series S.. Maxed out the memory in 4 games
Which games did max out for? And how big each were ?
COD WZ.. COD Cold War .. PUBG and MLB The Show
Same
Which one did you pick
Same here but buying the 1tb expansion pack doesn’t make any sense because for that money you could have bought a Series X (at least if it would be available). I guess transferring the games to an SSD or HDD does make more sense from a financial standpoint.
I love that expansion card that Microsoft/seagate made super simple and easy to expand the storage on the X/S. I hope they make bigger version of it in the future(2tb or 3tb)
Hopefully cheaper
There will be different storage options later. Microsoft also said that other manufacturers will be able to make cards as well later which means we will likely see the price go down in a few years
The price for 3tb would be very expensive
@@louiescott4316 for now. It'll get much MUUUUCHHH cheaper throughout the generation.
Yeah, It really bugged me that you have to open up the entire ps5 to replace the ssd. And getting the right one that will actually run the games, is kinda confusing.
You can't just get any ol ssd for the ps5, even if it fits. So I like that we have these simple ones that are plug and play for my series x.
right now is not the time to buy this, I don't even have my main ssd 60% full yet. I'll get a 2TB expansion card when they come out.
How big is your SSD? I’ve been on the fence with a HDD but I honestly don’t need 2TB, I don’t really replay games once beat them /: lol
Kinda funny how we sort of went back to PS1/PS2 days with "memory cards." :P
But instead of just saves, we store full games.
The price tag is still as premium as ever, though. :P
Back in 2000, we had to pay $34 ($53 in 2021 money) for 8MB.
Only the new games made specifically for the Series X/S require the specific type of NVME. Any xbox one or 360 games can be stored on an external SSD and still work fine. My biggest request is MS to install legacy games to external and only new to internal.
Velociraptor. Is that an upgraded version of the velocity architecture?
They really need cards with a higher storage capacity
This guy gives me 5’9 energy
Nathan lev
He’s probably shorter.
5’9 gang
@@andersontucker5522 🤣💪🏾💯
Faaacts 😂
I think the expansion card is my pick it has excellent speed.
It's better then the ps5. They are stuck with like 600gb. That's like 2 cod games🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Jeez
Fr i have Xbox s and ps5 on ps5 I have cod cold war and warzone, I have zero clips, apps, or any other games, and I only have 40 gb left of storage 🙃
Funny but what good is a big refrigerator with no food 😂. Xbox series X BORING! Zero games and why less people on the planet buy it plus Xbox consoles are built like American cars they don't last long. I don't want to keep playing 3 game sequels every generation gears, halo, and Forza. Sucks to be you with that huge dust collector but hey you can play old bullshit games while missing out on tons of game of the years quality games. Makes sense 😂🤣🙄🤔
@@thedarksideoftheforce6658 as I fill my 4tb of storage running at 120 fps and still drive a Ford after 200,000 miles with no issues. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Lmaooo 😂😂
Yes. There are listing for larger Xbox expansion cards coming soon. If you’re thinking for a SSD, please avoid the Western Digital 500GB D30. It’s super slow! Get an Samsung T7, fast read and write speeds.
Seagate is the way to go...👍🏼 I bought mine before I even got my Series X...💯✔
Like Whodatizz602 said you can't run a next-gen (Series X|S) game directly off any external drive, you have to move it to the internal NVME SSD. but moving entre games from internal to eternal and vice versa is MUCH faster than deleting games and redownloading from Game Pass
Um... 1:40 he claims you can use an external drive. This is a half truth. Sure you can download them on that external, but the series x version of games will only launch from the internal or that memory card at the start of the video
I think this is really meant for the X/S configured games, I noticed when I moved my game to a TB drive that I had that was for X/S that I couldnt play it and had to move it back to my Internal storage to be able to play it.
So only games optimized for series x|s cant be installed on regular external drives? Because I’ve just noticed that problem. You can install regular Xbox games on your external drive and play them but can’t install series x|s optimized games on the drive, you have to install it internally in order to play
@@caydealejandro5991 Yes
From what I understand you can install the Next Gen games on the drive, you just have to move them to the internal storage to play them, correct?
@@Krilldude Yes, I'm guessing that's why they have two different version of the games that are Series X/S optimized.
just got the SSD expansion card for Series X. amazing love it!
You forgot the BIGGEST THING ABOUT THE EXPANSION. You can NOT play Xbox Series Optimized games with a normal ssd since the games are Optimized for the expansion card.
My SSD seagate for Xbox was $199 and it’s not even next gen.
At $220 for next gen SSD is a steal.
Lmfao
Wow, your audio levels are all over the place! Tough to listen to.
It wouldn't even be hard to fix...
The start or transfer of games isn't really an issue for me.
Problematic is the performance overall while running on other ssds than the memory card.
The more capacity you upgrade, the more junk you will save to the new storage. It is like a dog chasing its tail. I am happy to use the original Xbox S as it is, 356GB usable storage. Focus on completing a game, uninstall and move on to next title.
The problem is now after you finished the campaign of a game, you keep it for online multiplayer for years eg destiny 2
"Metal like material"? It's literally metal.
For me if it was 4TB+ it would be worth it.
You can’t use any other card on series x but seagate ssd. If you want optimized gaming, then you can only store next gen games on the console or ssd expansion
I just got an external HDD Western Digital version and I can't download any new games to it, in fact, some even original Xbox one and 360 games won't download to it. That's super dumb to force you to upgrade your storage if it's capable of handling it all on the older systems. I'll suffer with my speed and performance if it means I can actually play my game, so freaking dumb.
Just gotta wait for someone to make an adapter to us regular nvme ssds in the expansion card slot
I think there are nvme to USB adapters
@@igors_lol true but they would be limited to USB speed and be treated like an external hard drive
just a quick note, none of the drives showcased in this video are HDD drives. they are all SSD. but i would imagine (for lack of research) that the expansion cards are m.2 SSDs which is why they’re faster and much much smaller. Solid state drives have been in most tech over the last 5 years. HDD was the cause for many red rings of death back in the day of the 360 and that was one of the first things to go with the newer xbox one
FYI you can buy a pc external drive and format it on the xbox but the drive has to have photos on it first before you plug it into the xbox. Hopes this helps and saves you money. Cost me $60 for 2TB
The speed test was most helpful part of this video for me! Thanks.
The problem I have with Seagate is they notoriously fail especially when storage capacity reaches over 60%. My friend had the 4TB Seagate for Xbox One and lost ALL his games. He was so pissed off he bought a PS4. I have a 1TB WD My Passport that I am saving for emergencies. I currently use a 2TB WD My Passport that is 50% full that has performed flawlessly for my Xbox One X. I just bought a 5TB My Passport for under $100 and comes with a 3 year warranty. I can keep all my games- 55 currently on that and transfer to the 1TB internal as needed. They also make 6TB and up MY Book that are under $200. WD also makes the Black SSD external. WD claims it to be almost as fast as the velocity architecture Microsoft is using. These work on PC, Playstation 4, Playstation 5, Xbox One, and Xbox Series so it may be worth looking into.
$ 220 for a 1 TB? Microsoft and its anti-consumer policies, it would be enough to unlock the doors and use any fast external memory.
This is the average price for these ssd speeds, believe it or not😅
At USD 220, the Expansion Card with 1 To isn't good enough for me.... Too bad we can't get 2 To for this price...
it would have been a killer accessory !!
Yeah that seems like a terrible price. Idk why the series x doesnt have more memory. Has the same amount as my one x which is decent but not great. Especially with all the games on gamepass
You don't need 2tb worth of games on an ssd how many games are you gonna realistically play regularly
Updated info: mechanical drives(sATA to USB 3.1) are simply not fast enough for anything newer than 360. I get Xbox one level stutter with a 3.5” 4tb 7200. Solid state is your only option for the series S, which I’ve never been able to fit 12 games on the internal 500gb. A 2TB SSD is your best price per $$, and I wouldn’t go any lower than 2.5TB of storage for a XSS, and no less than 3TB for an XSX. Based on average game size of 120GB.
Well I got the expansion card for $129 second hand. I love it! I store all of my xbox; original, 360 and indie games on it. Also I was able a few Xbox ONE titles.
I do hope PCs adapt expansion pack slots.
About how many games can you fit on the 1tb card?
@@babyboy1971 I've honestly lost count I have 22+ Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox one still haven maxed out,
Your time tests completely answered my question. Thank you.
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Instant Resume also works on cheap external HDD
ah yes because speed is the most important thing when games are getting bigger
Probably the best comparison i've seen, thank you so much.
Xbox One X + External SSD is what we all needed.
So after paying $220 for a 1tb storage that the card is not even reversible just boggles my mind.
Right ?
Only thing that wasn't mentioned is that any game that is Series X|S optimised or only available on X|S will not play from external HDD / SSD will only play from the internal drive OR the dedicated " expansion" card so this answers alot people's questions yes Microsoft dreamed this up just to milk a additional wad of cash out of your pockets so for the interim I won't be bothering with the card as all my games are still xb one so those will run from HDD as they always have X card new games SSD for Ur fav xb one titles
Tahnk you so much it helped me very much knowing the differents between hdd and SSD and choosing between them.
Nice job man, nice video. Helped me out big time
I like that it goes in the back of the console..a little “Nit picky”..it’s discreet, small and works seamlessly with my series X..only con is the price..🤷🏾♂️
So you’re telling me I can save almost $200, get double the storage, and all I have to do is wait 20 more minutes for a transfer that I’m gonna do at most twice a month? Sign me up
Xbox's nvme solution is the worse deal in gaming. Now that we can use the ps5's nvme expansion slot and can get a 1 tb drive for $150 and the xbox's drive is still $220
Mine will be here tomorrow!!
I got a 5tb ssd for transferring games to. Can't play from it, but so what. 100$ at best buy for 5tb and I'm only loosing playable games directly from the device , small form factor, and only a few more minutes to transfer directly to the console to play. Big deal.. the new expansion card for 1tb is ridiculous and cost waaaaay too much for what you get.
I can get a 4TB external hard drive for 110 bucks but a WD SSD is almost double the amount for 1TB definitely getting the external hard drive
They have to drop the price on that SSD, there's no way people will buy that
That technology is really expensive at the moment and since it’s with a third party, Microsoft will have a tough time dropping the price in the near future
why does everyone act like this is an issue? Buy the cheap hard drive and use the 1tb ssd for the games you want at speed. Who uses quick resume anyway I close games so no resources are being wasted. A 30 second difference in loading a game is nothing who cares.
It’s no way that thing should cost that much this is why the series S should of cost $350 that way they could of sprung for 1tb drive
$299.99 CAD before tax. For that memory card. Almost the same price for the Series S. Which is at $425.59 🇨🇦
I bought a 14TB HDD for storing games and playing old Xbox one and back compat games for about $180 and a $60 500 gb internal ssd with adapter to use for games I want fast loads but don’t need full speeds. Like games that are not enhanced yet
I prefer these ssd cards than nvme ram looking ssds. Hope we can make slots like these on our PCs
It would be interesting seeing the seagate hard drive compared to a proper cmr drive in this scenario as the drive is shingled
I bought this for my S. It's only inaccessible if you have the back away from you. I have my S sitting up, but sideways in a cooling system. That allows me to place it close to my TV, which is what I have hooked up to the Xbox, my gaming PC, and PS4 Pro.
The 2 Tb Seagate Expansion Card is so worth it. Load time was faster for me then mentioned in the video for Cyberpunk 2077 game. The amount of space I have left is great so I could keep adding a vast collection of games I can play week to week instead of COD. Lastly, hopefully it’s transferable for the next gen console 👀🙏
I like the little 512 GB version that we got for our Series S the other day, but was disappointed that it had to be plugged in three times before the unit decided that it was available to use. I guess microsoft has gone from "Plug & Play" to "Plug & Plug & Plug & Play" in the past 12 years since I got my last PC.
You have to advise people that you can't play the new games on the external SSD. Only Xbox One games hence the need to transfer.
Hey question would an a new xbox one sea gate model work with a series x|s, and also would it be able to transfer next gen games unlike a third party external drive.
First Xbox console that needs a memory card….I remember when ps2/Game cube needed memory cards and the OG xbox (I still don’t know how much memory that thing had) did not need one I had probably a thousand songs on my original Xbox plus the memory of all the games I played then went to the Xbox 360 Elite 120gb all you needed back then
Thank you so much for this vid mate
5:05 Why would you bother transferring games from internal memory to the expansion card or vice versa? Just play from the damn card! It should be zero for both movement speeds.
Reminds me of the old PS2 memory cards.
Too pricey. Buying this & the console isn't financially smart. Might as well buy a series x. I hope this doesn't affect the console how it affected the ps vita. They need to make cards smaller than 1tb or bring the price down below what the series x would cost you.
I have one and it's been great having more games I can keep on the faster drive
2:30. No smart set up. That blows so much heat from the top vent during hard core processing. I’ll put it on its side if all I had was a little cuddly space. Forget looking cool. I want my xbx running a cool and efficient as possible
I'm wondering if the next XBox would have the same expansion bay(s) because if I spend a few hundred on one of these expansion cards, I want to be able to continue to use this.
It would be worth it if they allowed you to store captured footage in these expansion cards 😡
Everyone: The SSD expansion is the superior choice.
Me: What was that install speed???
1 TB is not enough. Next external Hd for me
The fact they want 200 dollars for 1tb is hilarious. I have a 8Tb hard drive and the new Xbox should have been released with 5tb!
can't run next gen games on a hard drive
I’m glad it’s in the back of the council who wants to look at that.
You have to still install the upgrade for the game on your hard drive to use the x and s versions btw so yeahyou still have to buy one of these ones if you wanna play your new ones without reinstalling and upgrading it every time
If you're not using the internal or expansion, you will only run the Xbox one version of the game and lose quick resume. Should be noted.
New gen games won't run off of external ssds.
It let me quick resume RDR2 form external SSD
Brilliant vid why has no one liked it yet ??
Covid....
Work faster using the 1tb card than a 4tb wired external. See it booting up when you first turn on your console is a lot quicker
microsoft didnt make a product built by another completely separate company
The good old days psp2 if u know u know
Best for series x? Would be the expansion cards thats nvme and made for it. Other wise you will get many people saying "Hey i got this drive but it wont play all my X/S games
920 GB is still good to install mortal kombat 11 ultimate I might get the the expansion card in 2022 Christmas
U can Play on HDD. Series Optimized Games too. But with the arrow cyrcle Symbol u can Only save the game external.
Till price drops its ssd for me lol because I am going from a xbox one to Hopefully xbox series x 😅🙏.
I got a 5TB external hard disk for 80$, it is fast enough and does its job
Except you can't run series games on it
you literally need to wait for a 4TB for $220 for it to be worth it for next-gen consoles.
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I think a Hard Drive for around 80$ for even a terabyte more with the 20min load time. Is way better than spending over 200$ on a 1TB "memory card". It is faster yes but it gives literally nothing else in return for more than double the price.
Except you can't run series games on a hard drive
I think it would be cool if they made it look like its Cortana's disc from Halo as a decal
So hes going recommend the external SSD but not mention that you can't play new optimized games from it? You can store them there but can play them from there you would have to transfer your games to internal every time.
Of the optimised games currently on series x/s, there are more of them that you actually CAN play from external drives than there are that you can't. Halo MCC, Ori, Rocket League, Football Manager, and a good few others all work perfectly fine, even from an external HDD. You also get the visual and frame rate upgrades and can use quick resume. All you lose are the improved load times.
For the ones that don't work, it takes literally minutes to transfer them across when needed. From an HDD you can transfer 100GB across to the internal storage in less than 30 minutes.
You can download optimized games,but cant play them
If you want extra space in xbox ,you can download them on external SSD,then when you will have free space on xbox ,easyly transfer them to xboxs ssd
I love the ping pong ball on the series x 😆
This guys Speech Volume is all over the place. Found myself putting the volume up at points then lowering cause he was too loud after the switch