It doesnt take a genious to see where this is going, forcing good workers out just to retain slime balls, as they ride on our work...mgt could care less about the customer, just the carriers care & mgt is doing their best to force carriers out before retirement. When dropped my papers, PM promised me a lot to stay 1 more year, said no & 1 week before retirement the PM xferred to another Post Office so was just smoke up my ass. 10yrs in my high 3 is close to 10k....combined with mil ret & 2 SS cks we do fine. BTW politics are a major reason the post office is so fucked up & you know it. Love what you do J and do know political statements get you cancelled. With those limittations you do a wonderfull job. Thanx
My stepmom is a 30 yr clerk. She said she's taking the buyout, because she'll make more money between social security & her pension, than she would staying at the post office.
They need to get rid of alot of management. We are too top heavy as a company. supervisors, managers, post masters, pooms,, district manager, area manager and the list goes on. Just ridiculous.
Definitely too top heavy. Too micromanaged. Station manager and zone managers have no authority to make decisions about anything that goes on at their station. Not enough clerks or truck drivers if you ask me. 20 years of seeing inspections teams, area manager walk throughs and other operations inspectors come around and it gets progressively worse. Makes absolutely zero sense.
Wont be extra work. Our office in so cal just lost UPS, Amazon and DHL will ne going away in a couple of weeks. Doesnt leave much work fro distribution clerks and CCAs
I quit with nothing to fall back on because this was the worse place I have ever worked. Told sup I was looking to be a clerk because he wasnt happy with my speed and I didnt like being a CCA. he told me "well you have to quit to transfer" and handed me a resignation form. I knew he was liing but I cant work with that bull shit. Jimmy at La Habra CA is a POS.
I’ve been with the USPS for 34 years and I don’t remember them ever giving the lump sum all at once.They’ve always spread it out over time.60 years of age with 34 years of service. I’M OUT✌🏽
I'm 64 and got hired CSRS in 1980 and retired in 2017, your probably in Fers retirement, gott out while I was healthy and house paid off, I been spending my check and playing golf, workin around my house, bowling walking 10 miles a week and healthy, seen so many people Die and not see a dime of retirement, seen so many people get cancer and die, I have 100k in the bank for emergency and I'm spending every dime when I get my check. Ya only live once
I love what you said that you will retire from the USPS when the time comes but you have a trade skilled to do something else. You will always have a job with a trade. I love my college educated folks because they are so easily can be in the unemployment office. Do not let this deter you from choosing another career path. I remember hearing about this when I was in high school back in the 1980’s schools across the different states taken trade classes out of high schools in the 1970s where kids did not have any other options but go to college if they can afford it.
My opinion, they’re not going to fill those positions, just put more work on the ones that still there. This is something the big corporations have been doing for a while. They gonna keep chiseling away at our contracts untill we have no protections. And how about cut back on some of those fing supervisors. Everyone needs to wake up, we have to get new like minded people in our unions.
We went from 1 truck in the morning to 3-4 now here out of Little Rock. Sometimes the trucks bring 1 package for our whole office. And still get a night pickup
Amazon does this for people that have worked 3 years or more. You get a bonus of $1000 per year worked but if you take the buy out you go on a list and can never work for Amazon ever again.
The payout amount should definitely be higher if they get to the carriers. I mean if you look at the top pay is around 36k more then starting pay. So in one year the post office saves 36k per carrier replaced.
@@derekrice5203 They will never do it for the carriers. The last time they did this in the early 2000s over 25% left and it hurt. They can't afford to get rid of us. We are the postal service. City carriers can run any route, city or rural. They can throw packages. They can do practically everything in the post office, but the other crafts cannot do what we do. This makes us more valuable and worth a whole lot more than 1.1%
bc a lot of these “old timers” come to work and stand around doing the bare minimum their entire shift because they know nothing will happen to them. meanwhile us newbies get to pick up their slack and get paid way less because “SeNiOriTy”
We're so short handed in all crafts i am a FTR clerk and if we haven't had a holiday and the day of mourning i wouldn't have a day off and you're saying people sitting around on the clock?? We hired a PSE never showed up. Hard to hire for tour 1
Jay H outstanding information as always. Quick information for you, postal service is using the CANOO EV at the Atlanta South location. Now CANOO basically has folded, and we have six vehicles that has slowly started to die. Out of the six, we only have three in service, and no CANOO to service them. So we are pretty much stuck with trucks we can't use any more, a sad situation at hand😢😢😢
Its also about reducing union members so a weaker union can be broken, in time. there was an Early out with no incentive in Jan 2013 hey offered it in Dec 2012, Clerks who had 20 years at least service at least 50 years of age, it think was the deal. a lot of people took it then and then a lot of work was dumped on those who were left.
If you go on the early out, you will still get the FERS supplement but not until you reach your MRA, which is 57 for you. So for now, you’d just get your FERS annuity (pension)
I am looking at retiring this November ....15 thou (before taxes) "ain't shit" lol verses the money I can make by working the rest of the year. This money they are offering is low hanging fruit.
A sneaky way - a prelude to 'privatization '. I bet the strategy is to reduce the # of salaried workers that remain then get contractors to bid on bringing 'their' crews in to do the work. Contractors who bid the lowest price to provide their manpower win the bids ( they pay their crews minimum wage). By paying contractors a flat contract amount , the post office reduces and gains full control of their wage budget. 😢. Also, might give them means to abolish or decertify labor unions -- because not enough salaried employees in membership, and no obligation to negotiate union contracts
And No more over-time. Overtime will be like a 'dinosaur ' - people will be saying -"remember a long time ago, there was this thing called "overtime" if you worked extra hours, you got paid 💰 time and all half 💰. OH, oh. oh yeah - and a thing called 'Sunday Premium etc. 😲 🫨 😲 🫢
@@JasonDelaney-b2mUnfortunately what usually happens is they keep the dumbest mediocre ones instead of the ones who would make a positive difference. I have seen this over and over again. Just so many refuse to acknowledge the truth. The karma of it all no matter what some may like to say that so and so are to big to fail. I have experienced these such suggestions become huge failures. From billion or multiple million dollar corporations fall and fall hard they do.
Do your due diligence. Analyze the forest not just the tree. Start 15k paid out in two installments. Are you at the retirement age. How is your health. How much sick leave can you burn up use it to lose it. Annual leave. Short and/or long term disability. Social Security. Military and/or disability. I took the last 15k buyout for clerks and never looked back. Used up my sick leave, had used up my annual leave and was receiving short term disability later for 4 yrs. Long term disability. Take the money.
That don’t do that; keep doing it I won’t tell tickled me 😂😂 Getting a side hustle is the answer. One of my favorite scenes in the remake of Willy wonka was the dad got fired from the factory and then took classes to learn to repair the robots that replaced him. He increased his income tenfold by taking his losses and getting ahead of the needs rather than wallowing.
This is only good for those had already planned on retiring before April 2025. 15.000 minus taxes is not worth leaving unless you have a solid plan to fall back on. (Already in place), not something you plan to do.
I heard about 15k Wednesday January 8, 2025. They signed it before the 4 day weekend . Thursday off Jimmy Carter and most took Friday off also. APWU must be stronger union and didn’t leak it out until Monday. I bet they signed it January 8th also.
Money or something is always offered when the government/employer is the one breaking a contract or promise. This is how corporate America has operated for decades. Back in 80's they were like, hey all these ppl making 6 figures are retiring, let's encourage and then save money by hiring young ppl at lower wages where everybody is the same at same rate. That's when merit raises ended.
"How many of you have skill sets to make money on the side?" For me, my investments are already doing that. I make almost as much as my net pay from working just with my investment gains. IF... I got the boot today and had to figure something out I'd pull the trigger on trading options. I'm pretty confident that I could supplement 2k a month with just a few trades a month selling puts and covered calls doing the wheel strat.
They hardly ever do carriers, because so many could retire at one time if they offer that. Then USPS would be in a shithole more with out having enough carriers to deliver the mail.
They have done this all my postal career everytime someone retires at our plant they try to abolish the jobs but ya forcing it saying its union fault as far as all this going
That's regular in New York. Caravan or 2 ton. The CCA,s Carrier. Will deliver outgoing mail from their station to operation local processing plant. That's old news. They don't give a fuck how many hours you carried mail. New York is 8-16 hours or more. We got mail. Shop Stewart.
If someone offer me a buyout today, I wouldn’t take it because of my lifestyle of living and the economy plays a factor as well. I remember hearing buyouts many years ago not only at the USPS, but other City, State, and Federal agencies with the private industry workers as well. Who are dealing with the same thing, but I asked this question if those accept the buyout for the USPS to save money Who will replace those who retired early for taken the buyout?
Horrible changes that makes your job more difficult is the true motivator for getting older vets to leave their job early. Not a cheap bribe. More people would opt to early retire if they were forced to commute and relocate to those stupid super centers lol. I'm willing to bet a lot of older craft employees are doing well contributing to their TSP's. 15k doesn't sweeten the pot. For most senior employees, that'll probably be the equivalent of 2 or 3 months of TSP gains for them. People, especially carriers WANT to retire early. Do you know why most don't? It's not because "If only I had 15k then I'd be outta here! I'd show them!!!" No. It's because they've come too far to duck out now and not get that pension and medicare benefits. Maybe even that 1% bonus match. 15k doesn't buy that kind of security. And of course being of age to collect social is a huge part of it too.
@Donna_BD1 WOW !!! So that little $10K amounts to 'nothing'. 🎵 Nothing from nothing leaves -- Nothing 🎵 🎶 😆 🤣 😂. Why don't they just offer us 'peanuts' 🤔.
This company is backwards. The carriers make the least. UPS the clerks make $12/hr and carriers make $49/hr. Think about the clerk in my 1800 person town making $40/hr to scroll on FB all day while the RCA makes $20/hr or the carriers start at $25/hr and get 50 cent raises every step.
Bingo ! I always thought that. For the money they make more things need to be done. If they are already scanning the packages they should also be putting the sequence and section number on these as well (just like Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS) that would help us carriers out so much
I smell after the early out, they'll be a new pay scale offering. Lower wages, there retirement will be different. They'll be civil service, fers and then the new one, don't know what it will be called. But it won't offer much
Started the post office fresh out of highschool now I’m 23 been here 5yrs and now I’m thinking about going into Customs but that’s process is rigorous but I do love my job benefits and what all that it offer I sell hair on the side I have a hair business and license cosmetologist…. Ik I’ll be able to price match my pay with US CUSTOMS what do you think I should do? I’ve already applied just now waiting on the recruiter to get back with me I just want to make the right decision
Do you like your PO job? Is it secure or are they consolidating? Will customs be affected by Trump administration? Does it have better chance to move up?
@ hey the po job is what you make it! For me it’s a great job with good benefits but I’m actually looking forward to trying something new and it can be hard to move up
@@Thareallt2_Why do people say that? The job is not what you make it? A long walking ghetto route sucks. Period. Being a clerk surrounded by lazy white trash sucks. Good luck, though.
No sir I would disagree the people with 25 plus years make it impossible for us to have a decent schedule it makes no sense for someone with that time to still be bidding just to block us from getting it I’m losing bids to people that turned career in the 90s which isn’t fair
@@gregsouve4278it’s called seniority. We didn’t come in with good schedules. We worked ourselves until we were able to get into a good schedule. Yall are not no better than us and what we had to do. Yall lazy and want things handed to yall.
I agree they are lazy and don’t want to work. The postal service has went down with these youngins who don’t come to work, don’t have good customer service and just plain lazy.
Definitely Not me sitting in the break room with Closed Captions on 😂 may have to watch the rest later they Do Be runnin these PVOs lot of stops in short amt of time 😮
Looks like not only are they offering us 'peanuts' , but not even enough to buy a soda to go with it 😂😂😂 . It would be nice if the offer included 'adding' 3 or 4 years to our service years.
Ehhh they done a few times its juat to get older folks making top dollar out they do this every so often as long as u have a union they have to abide by contract but at same time when they hired all of these people like they did i knew something was coming with it
@@bennyprentice7319 You have to have at least five years creditable service for the early out. If that federal fairness act bill passes, you can include your years as a PSE
Jay, would you be interested in doing a video with someone who will be running for NRLCA President in our next election? If so let me know and I'll see if I can make it happen ✌️
Unfortunately, the buyout is not offered to letter carriers because management would have numerous vacancies and difficulties filling the positions with able and willing employees. Letter carriers who have been fully vested into their retirement would take the measly $15,000 (minus 20% taxes and other fees to hopefully clear at least 10k-11k) and run. There are T-7 clerks making top tier pay with over 45 years of service. Not sure they would take the bait. Clerks, mail handlers and other employees affiliated with the APWU have been making loads of overtime hours while management is constantly limiting overtime hours, and harassing letter carriers that are working hard everyday risking their lives in today’s unsafe work environments. The NALC should follow APWU’s lead by working hard to improve workplace safety and conditions for letter carriers. And to add insult to injury, there is still no new NALC contractual agreement for letter carriers. SMH
It doesnt take a genious to see where this is going, forcing good workers out just to retain slime balls, as they ride on our work...mgt could care less about the customer, just the carriers care & mgt is doing their best to force carriers out before retirement. When dropped my papers, PM promised me a lot to stay 1 more year, said no & 1 week before retirement the PM xferred to another Post Office so was just smoke up my ass. 10yrs in my high 3 is close to 10k....combined with mil ret & 2 SS cks we do fine. BTW politics are a major reason the post office is so fucked up & you know it. Love what you do J and do know political statements get you cancelled. With those limittations you do a wonderfull job. Thanx
My stepmom is a 30 yr clerk. She said she's taking the buyout, because she'll make more money between social security & her pension, than she would staying at the post office.
They need to get rid of alot of management. We are too top heavy as a company. supervisors, managers, post masters, pooms,, district manager, area manager and the list goes on. Just ridiculous.
Definitely too top heavy. Too micromanaged. Station manager and zone managers have no authority to make decisions about anything that goes on at their station. Not enough clerks or truck drivers if you ask me. 20 years of seeing inspections teams, area manager walk throughs and other operations inspectors come around and it gets progressively worse. Makes absolutely zero sense.
They are offered it as well
Facts
It’s real simple j , as a letter carrier I give 100 percent. If the work doesn’t get done it doesnt get done. 330 I’m going home.
Last time this happen they did not pay both payments to all.
Wont be extra work. Our office in so cal just lost UPS, Amazon and DHL will ne going away in a couple of weeks. Doesnt leave much work fro distribution clerks and CCAs
Have a side business always have a plan B
2013 we had a buyout. Then, they. filled the place up with PSE’s.
I quit with nothing to fall back on because this was the worse place I have ever worked. Told sup I was looking to be a clerk because he wasnt happy with my speed and I didnt like being a CCA. he told me "well you have to quit to transfer" and handed me a resignation form. I knew he was liing but I cant work with that bull shit. Jimmy at La Habra CA is a POS.
Same happened to me and now I'm in window training. Just keep applying to other crafts.
We love and appreciate that your here for us❤️❤️❤️👍👍
Not good that our contracts aren’t negotiated yet!
I’ve been with the USPS for 34 years and I don’t remember them ever giving the lump sum all at once.They’ve always spread it out over time.60 years of age with 34 years of service. I’M OUT✌🏽
I'm 64 and got hired CSRS in 1980 and retired in 2017, your probably in Fers retirement, gott out while I was healthy and house paid off, I been spending my check and playing golf, workin around my house, bowling walking 10 miles a week and healthy, seen so many people Die and not see a dime of retirement, seen so many people get cancer and die, I have 100k in the bank for emergency and I'm spending every dime when I get my check. Ya only live once
I think some of this has to do with consolidation plans into SDCs. It opens up positions for those who may be excessed.
They have capped the amount of employees in each craft that can tack buy out.
I love what you said that you will retire from the USPS when the time comes but you have a trade skilled to do something else. You will always have a job with a trade. I love my college educated folks because they are so easily can be in the unemployment office. Do not let this deter you from choosing another career path. I remember hearing about this when I was in high school back in the 1980’s schools across the different states taken trade classes out of high schools in the 1970s where kids did not have any other options but go to college if they can afford it.
My opinion, they’re not going to fill those positions, just put more work on the ones that still there. This is something the big corporations have been doing for a while. They gonna keep chiseling away at our contracts untill we have no protections.
And how about cut back on some of those fing supervisors. Everyone needs to wake up, we have to get new like minded people in our unions.
Agreed they already doing that where I am we are twenty five mail handlers short. So there answer for clerks 6 days 10 hours year around
Save money
We went from 1 truck in the morning to 3-4 now here out of Little Rock. Sometimes the trucks bring 1 package for our whole office. And still get a night pickup
Mail handler also did same thing in 2012 . But 15k was divided even in 2 payment $7,500 on 12/21/2012 & $7,500 12/20/2013
And TAX twice
This is what they are doing here as well.
August 25 and august 26
supervisors make 80k just because they learned abbreviations almost 30k over the starting rate for craft employees
The carriers need the money, without the carriers, the USPS doesn't work. The carriers are the backbone of the USPS!
Every company does this. Its nothing new. You get the highest paid out because the lower guys do the same job and make less.
Amazon does this for people that have worked 3 years or more. You get a bonus of $1000 per year worked but if you take the buy out you go on a list and can never work for Amazon ever again.
The payout amount should definitely be higher if they get to the carriers. I mean if you look at the top pay is around 36k more then starting pay. So in one year the post office saves 36k per carrier replaced.
@@derekrice5203 They will never do it for the carriers. The last time they did this in the early 2000s over 25% left and it hurt. They can't afford to get rid of us. We are the postal service. City carriers can run any route, city or rural. They can throw packages. They can do practically everything in the post office, but the other crafts cannot do what we do. This makes us more valuable and worth a whole lot more than 1.1%
Why are they wanting to reduce the work force when nobody has enough help now? Make it make sense
bc a lot of these “old timers” come to work and stand around doing the bare minimum their entire shift because they know nothing will happen to them. meanwhile us newbies get to pick up their slack and get paid way less because “SeNiOriTy”
They should be able to offer waaaay more than $25K....considering the total amt. they're saving in salaries
They’re only offering $15k
We're so short handed in all crafts i am a FTR clerk and if we haven't had a holiday and the day of mourning i wouldn't have a day off and you're saying people sitting around on the clock?? We hired a PSE never showed up. Hard to hire for tour 1
Thank you J for everything but most of all keeping it 💯, all the time !
Jay H outstanding information as always. Quick information for you, postal service is using the CANOO EV at the Atlanta South location. Now CANOO basically has folded, and we have six vehicles that has slowly started to die. Out of the six, we only have three in service, and no CANOO to service them. So we are pretty much stuck with trucks we can't use any more, a sad situation at hand😢😢😢
🤔.. Give it a few months.. Something has to give...
Right? 🤔
@@MrFinesse316 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾You got that right
Its also about reducing union members so a weaker union can be broken, in time. there was an Early out with no incentive in Jan 2013 hey offered it in Dec 2012, Clerks who had 20 years at least service at least 50 years of age, it think was the deal. a lot of people took it then and then a lot of work was dumped on those who were left.
@chuckrafiki8649 I think one time, a retirement 'buy out' offer choose to either receive $30K -- OR -- get (5 ) years added to your service years.
Laziness is also coming down to bite a lot of people.
yup they notice and absences
At what age do we get the supplement. I’m 54 but my 30 years won’t be until Nov 2027. Can I still get the supplement now? At 54
If you go on the early out, you will still get the FERS supplement but not until you reach your MRA, which is 57 for you. So for now, you’d just get your FERS annuity (pension)
I’m Step C city carrier. You know the one getting the shaft the most. I’d take 15k to quit right now 😂
Mr. Clyde told me this morning, he's been in it 40 years, that this was offered back in the day , maybe 80's, for 25,000$.
@kathyZ500 I think early 2000's also for clerks..
@@ThomasManningJr Another longtime coworker said management was offered the same back in the 80's or so.
@kathyZ500 They should be offered again! They could use 204B's to do their jobs for less, just like cca's..
CCA’s make 64,000@@ThomasManningJr
I am looking at retiring this November ....15 thou (before taxes) "ain't shit" lol verses the money I can make by working the rest of the year. This money they are offering is low hanging fruit.
A sneaky way - a prelude to 'privatization '. I bet the strategy is to reduce the # of salaried workers that remain then get contractors to bid on bringing 'their' crews in to do the work. Contractors who bid the lowest price to provide their manpower win the bids ( they pay their crews minimum wage). By paying contractors a flat contract amount , the post office reduces and gains full control of their wage budget. 😢. Also, might give them means to abolish or decertify labor unions -- because not enough salaried employees in membership, and no obligation to negotiate union contracts
Interesting 🤔
And No more over-time. Overtime will be like a 'dinosaur ' - people will be saying -"remember a long time ago, there was this thing called "overtime" if you worked extra hours, you got paid 💰 time and all half 💰. OH, oh. oh yeah - and a thing called 'Sunday Premium etc. 😲 🫨 😲 🫢
-680000 employees x15k=over 10 million. Where's that many comin from pffff. Appreciate your hard work bruh 👊👊👊
Happy new year JH and to your son too.
Wonder if they'll be reducing management, also.
They need to some of them make it a miserable place to work
Yesuah Yeasuah ASAP@@JasonDelaney-b2m
@@JasonDelaney-b2m they are encouraging such super visor to stay longer.
@@mdislam6381 I hope not we lost the only one who actually treated us like humans and not numbers 🤷🏽♂️
@@JasonDelaney-b2mUnfortunately what usually happens is they keep the dumbest mediocre ones instead of the ones who would make a positive difference. I have seen this over and over again. Just so many refuse to acknowledge the truth. The karma of it all no matter what some may like to say that so and so are to big to fail. I have experienced these such suggestions become huge failures. From billion or multiple million dollar corporations fall and fall hard they do.
How does this affect our contract you think?
Do your due diligence. Analyze the forest not just the tree. Start 15k paid out in two installments. Are you at the retirement age. How is your health. How much sick leave can you burn up use it to lose it. Annual leave. Short and/or long term disability. Social Security. Military and/or disability. I took the last 15k buyout for clerks and never looked back. Used up my sick leave, had used up my annual leave and was receiving short term disability later for 4 yrs. Long term disability. Take the money.
That don’t do that; keep doing it I won’t tell tickled me 😂😂
Getting a side hustle is the answer. One of my favorite scenes in the remake of Willy wonka was the dad got fired from the factory and then took classes to learn to repair the robots that replaced him. He increased his income tenfold by taking his losses and getting ahead of the needs rather than wallowing.
This is only good for those had already planned on retiring before April 2025. 15.000 minus taxes is not worth leaving unless you have a solid plan to fall back on. (Already in place), not something you plan to do.
If I was retiring anyway. Why not
Good point
I heard about 15k Wednesday January 8, 2025. They signed it before the 4 day weekend . Thursday off Jimmy Carter and most took Friday off also. APWU must be stronger union and didn’t leak it out until Monday. I bet they signed it January 8th also.
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Money or something is always offered when the government/employer is the one breaking a contract or promise. This is how corporate America has operated for decades. Back in 80's they were like, hey all these ppl making 6 figures are retiring, let's encourage and then save money by hiring young ppl at lower wages where everybody is the same at same rate. That's when merit raises ended.
Jay, Excellent advice concerning $15,000 ain't much unless you have something to fall back on.
It’s for people with less than a year left that will take it
This was done years ago in my previous office for the clerks..
"How many of you have skill sets to make money on the side?"
For me, my investments are already doing that. I make almost as much as my net pay from working just with my investment gains. IF... I got the boot today and had to figure something out I'd pull the trigger on trading options. I'm pretty confident that I could supplement 2k a month with just a few trades a month selling puts and covered calls doing the wheel strat.
The compliment goes further, it has to do with your facilities’ ratio of career to non-career employees.
Very good talk sir. Very good.
Now I got some work to do:(
i regret putting in my resignation as a pse clerk 😫 might be close to impossible to get back in.
Nah
Try IHHS service for elderly
How do rural.carriers fit into this, if at all?
hmmmmm. -- What if you take the $10k but they don't pay the $9K next year the $5K the next year because -- ran outta funds ???
This applies to mail carriers too?
Not yet
They hardly ever do carriers, because so many could retire at one time if they offer that. Then USPS would be in a shithole more with out having enough carriers to deliver the mail.
should we continue paying union?
Most can't afford that small offer. Got yo be 50000 minimum
When will there be a new contract ??
They have done this all my postal career everytime someone retires at our plant they try to abolish the jobs but ya forcing it saying its union fault as far as all this going
After their shift shop stewart pick a CCA's to bring the station out going mail to Operation processing plant.
Waw really thats crazy.
That's regular in New York. Caravan or 2 ton. The CCA,s Carrier. Will deliver outgoing mail from their station to operation local processing plant. That's old news. They don't give a fuck how many hours you carried mail. New York is 8-16 hours or more. We got mail. Shop Stewart.
Management has to be careful economic wise regarding the housing market cars, etc
Y they don't care about us
What about the maintenance craft
Same
If someone offer me a buyout today, I wouldn’t take it because of my lifestyle of living and the economy plays a factor as well. I remember hearing buyouts many years ago not only at the USPS, but other City, State, and Federal agencies with the private industry workers as well. Who are dealing with the same thing, but I asked this question if those accept the buyout for the USPS to save money Who will replace those who retired early for taken the buyout?
They offered one of our team leaders in APPS a buyout, he said no bc he's retiring in sept anyways and would make more from now till then 🤣
Horrible changes that makes your job more difficult is the true motivator for getting older vets to leave their job early. Not a cheap bribe. More people would opt to early retire if they were forced to commute and relocate to those stupid super centers lol.
I'm willing to bet a lot of older craft employees are doing well contributing to their TSP's. 15k doesn't sweeten the pot. For most senior employees, that'll probably be the equivalent of 2 or 3 months of TSP gains for them.
People, especially carriers WANT to retire early. Do you know why most don't? It's not because "If only I had 15k then I'd be outta here! I'd show them!!!" No. It's because they've come too far to duck out now and not get that pension and medicare benefits. Maybe even that 1% bonus match. 15k doesn't buy that kind of security. And of course being of age to collect social is a huge part of it too.
Could do a (RIF) which is Reduction In Force
Sounds good
We can't maintain standards right now cause of management.
Wonder if you'd be taxed twice if (1) tax is deducted when you receivr the $10k , (2) again at income tax time ???I.
YES YOU WILL
@Donna_BD1 WOW !!! So that little $10K amounts to 'nothing'.
🎵 Nothing from nothing leaves -- Nothing 🎵 🎶 😆 🤣 😂.
Why don't they just offer us 'peanuts' 🤔.
This company is backwards. The carriers make the least. UPS the clerks make $12/hr and carriers make $49/hr. Think about the clerk in my 1800 person town making $40/hr to scroll on FB all day while the RCA makes $20/hr or the carriers start at $25/hr and get 50 cent raises every step.
Bingo ! I always thought that. For the money they make more things need to be done. If they are already scanning the packages they should also be putting the sequence and section number on these as well (just like Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS) that would help us carriers out so much
Clerks don't make 40hr. Please link that info
I smell after the early out, they'll be a new pay scale offering. Lower wages, there retirement will be different. They'll be civil service, fers and then the new one, don't know what it will be called. But it won't offer much
Of course
I’m going to retire age62 with 25yrs I’m 57 now count down
Started the post office fresh out of highschool now I’m 23 been here 5yrs and now I’m thinking about going into Customs but that’s process is rigorous but I do love my job benefits and what all that it offer I sell hair on the side I have a hair business and license cosmetologist…. Ik I’ll be able to price match my pay with US CUSTOMS what do you think I should do? I’ve already applied just now waiting on the recruiter to get back with me I just want to make the right decision
Do you like your PO job? Is it secure or are they consolidating? Will customs be affected by Trump administration? Does it have better chance to move up?
@ hey the po job is what you make it! For me it’s a great job with good benefits but I’m actually looking forward to trying something new and it can be hard to move up
@@Thareallt2_Why do people say that? The job is not what you make it? A long walking ghetto route sucks. Period. Being a clerk surrounded by lazy white trash sucks. Good luck, though.
@Thareallt2_ you're young enough that if you go for a customs job and don't like it, you can always come back to the P.O.
Weigh your decision with emphasis on the long term benefits. Nothing more, nothing less.
The problem is, the youngins dont want to work.
No sir I would disagree the people with 25 plus years make it impossible for us to have a decent schedule it makes no sense for someone with that time to still be bidding just to block us from getting it I’m losing bids to people that turned career in the 90s which isn’t fair
@@gregsouve4278it’s called seniority. We didn’t come in with good schedules. We worked ourselves until we were able to get into a good schedule. Yall are not no better than us and what we had to do. Yall lazy and want things handed to yall.
I agree they are lazy and don’t want to work. The postal service has went down with these youngins who don’t come to work, don’t have good customer service and just plain lazy.
We don’t have a say if there is work.
It will go up. Majority won't budge
I want my time as a pse to count towards retirement!
Theres a bill that would allow that but it hasn't gone anywhere yet.
The Federal Retirement Fairness Act?
Same, wish I could put in my time as a casual aswell.
In 3 years I would
Definitely Not me sitting in the break room with Closed Captions on 😂 may have to watch the rest later they Do Be runnin these PVOs lot of stops in short amt of time 😮
It’s voluntary. That’s really not negotiable it’s just an offer from the company. Extra why would the union say no thanks.
Yeah thats,avoid point
Jay for president
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Sheeeet
Looks like not only are they offering us 'peanuts' , but not even enough to buy a soda to go with it 😂😂😂 . It would be nice if the offer included 'adding' 3 or 4 years to our service years.
Ehhh they done a few times its juat to get older folks making top dollar out they do this every so often as long as u have a union they have to abide by contract but at same time when they hired all of these people like they did i knew something was coming with it
Infiltrating
I been there for only 2 years and I don't have a bid yet plus I'm turning 60 years old, the question is am I'm in that group for early retirement?
Look at OPM FERS retirement options. I think you might need at least 5 years in though.
you must have 5 years@@brianrobertson877
@@bennyprentice7319 You have to have at least five years creditable service for the early out. If that federal fairness act bill passes, you can include your years as a PSE
I believe you can do early retirement at 62
When do they talk about the votes and contracts for the nalc?
Early feb? Possibly
3 or 4 jobs should not be necessary to live
Jay, would you be interested in doing a video with someone who will be running for NRLCA President in our next election? If so let me know and I'll see if I can make it happen ✌️
Lets goo
@MrFinesse316 I will reach out to him and get back to you. What is the best way to contact you to make this work?
Unfortunately, the buyout is not offered to letter carriers because management would have numerous vacancies and difficulties filling the positions with able and willing employees. Letter carriers who have been fully vested into their retirement would take the measly $15,000 (minus 20% taxes and other fees to hopefully clear at least 10k-11k) and run. There are T-7 clerks making top tier pay with over 45 years of service. Not sure they would take the bait. Clerks, mail handlers and other employees affiliated with the APWU have been making loads of overtime hours while management is constantly limiting overtime hours, and harassing letter carriers that are working hard everyday risking their lives in today’s unsafe work environments. The NALC should follow APWU’s lead by working hard to improve workplace safety and conditions for letter carriers. And to add insult to injury, there is still no new NALC contractual agreement for letter carriers. SMH
I did my interview in November. Got hired on 11/13/2024. As a MVO. I’m still waiting for email to take road test. It’s 1/13/2025. Is this normal. ???
Yes. Call HR and get an update on your schedule day
@ thanks.
Orientation 1rst
So don’t be worried is what everyone is saying correct. I’ll will be working soon I hope. Because I quit my job last month.
@@MrFinesse316 I did not expect you to respond to me. Didn’t even realize it was you. MR. JAY H himself. Thanks for the help. 🔥👏💪🏽
Wow 14 people only showing up!
Dejoy says he wants to eliminate around 50,000 positions at the USPS.
It needs to be more at least 20000
I think they are testing the waters on the dollar amount. In another year or two I bet it will be up to $20k
The only people who take it were planning to retire anyway.
Means more work less pay
$15K isn't enough but I have a Master Degree to utilize if I decided.
PRIVITIZATION ,THATS WHY THEY WILL KEEP CARRIERS
Hey what’s up jay
anybody notice NALC ‘s X account blocked anybody from commenting their post!?!
When will the w2s be ready?
End of month
@@MrFinesse316 damn. That's terrible