My heart goes to all those kids who are laying on the grass, throwing frisbee, whatever and are missing Cliff's life changing message. If they only knew...
They’re doing things far more worthy than pretending there’s a man in the sky waiting for us to touch ourselves so he can punish our dead bodies with eternal suffering. Makes absolutely no sense. Throwing frisbee? That makes sense.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
The hardest thing is knowing the answer as soon as they ask the question and waiting for them to finish with a smug look on their face like they scored the winning goal. Where would we be without the Fruit of the Spirit? lol Grateful for Cliff's ministry and continually keeping him in prayers. May God be glorified.
Hitler knows his childhood, his school life, his family and friends much better than me. Because I have born much later. So, if Hitler or any of his friends or family writes a book about Hitler, that is alright. If I write a book about Hitler, that means either I have copied from first hand sources or I am just talking nonsense. In the same way if the disciples of Jesus write something about Jesus, that is alright. But if Muhammad or somebody writes anything about Jesus 600 - 800 years later, that means either it is a copy from the disciples of Jesus or Quran is a stupid nonsense book. And Quran 4:157 and 158 say that Jesus was not crucified. So, Quran is nonsense stupid book. So, WHATEVER ELSE Quran says is also wrong. So, good bye Quran.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp The story of Jesus is situated in history, in a real time and a real place with real people verified by archeology. Are those others? Mohamed is a real person, i agree with that one. But Jesus claimed to be God and rose from the dead and also lived and taught a sinless life. Mohamed didn't do any of those. So I would hope you would have more faith in Jesus telling you what's real than any of those others.
@@will95515 That Jesus claimed to be God and rose from the dead and also lived and taught a sinless life - is all just myth invented by unknown ignorant superstitious men who wrote the Bible 300-years after this Jesus guy was supposed to have existed. No eye witnesses of this claimed rising from the dead existed when the Bible was written. Would you trust a second hand account passed down by hundreds of people over 300-years? Of course you wouldn't. The Bible is all fairy tales. You might as well read Harry Potter novels - they contain about as much truth as that old book, the Bible.
Hitler knows his childhood, his school life, his family and friends much better than me. Because I have born much later. So, if Hitler or any of his friends or family writes a book about Hitler, that is alright. If I write a book about Hitler, that means either I have copied from first hand sources or I am just talking nonsense. In the same way if the disciples of Jesus write something about Jesus, that is alright. But if Muhammad or somebody writes anything about Jesus 600 - 800 years later, that means either it is a copy from the disciples of Jesus or Quran is a stupid nonsense book. And Quran 4:157 and 158 say that Jesus was not crucified. So, Quran is nonsense stupid book. So, WHATEVER ELSE Quran says is also wrong. So, good bye Quran.
You are a more patient than me, Cliffe. That first person was so condescending, and I would have just said, “come back to me when you can take what I have to say seriously” but you did well to demonstrate the love and patience of Christ, well done brother
At some point with these folks this verse comes to mind Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. Some aren't looking for proof they are only dialoging to" prove" him "wrong"
Sir, you have really helped me reaffirm my faith. I been seeing some articles saying that Christianity is false and stuff, and you really help me. Thanks!
The more you search for Christ, the more you realize that there’s a creator out there who loves you and cares for you. He is the only one who can change your life. Like Cliffe said, if Jesus didn’t rise from the dead, I wouldn’t believe and just like Paul said as well.
@@SolidPain6624 amen to that! I saw this guy named Bart Ehrman and he kind of discredited the Bible, and that really made me skeptical but then I looked more and it was just that he embellished all his points
@@swatchedlimpune6668 brother, I don’t know you at all, but I’ll keep you in my prayers tonight! The Devil will attack and attack and attack but the armor of God is available to be put to use. None of us are perfect, that’s why we need Jesus. He transformed my life. I no longer suffer from suicidal thoughts. God bless you on your journey.
What I really love is that these guys are so prepared to reject what the evidence says that Jesus did because it’s “a series of anecdotes” but yet wouldn’t think twice about willingly accepting any kind of historical, evolutionary, or Big Bang related event that their professors would present them. It’s simply just too unpopular to be a Christian in today’s society it seems. Sad.
Yes they want to live their own lives how they want to and continue to sin without God. They blame God for all the bad stuff happening in the world yet dont own up to their sinful nature and ignore we are not good people.
Yea because humans want to live their lives without consequences and accountability. Big bang and evolution are ridiculous theories and I have always wondered how people who claim to be smart can’t see that. Guess it’s like what the Bible said”professing to be wise they became fools…”
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
the smug kid in the sunglasses says he would die if things would change in the MIddle East. He essentially says he's willing to die for the greater good. I don't believe he'd be willing to give up his cell phone.
He very likely wouldn’t have. Also he was making a false equivalency. He was talking about dying for an actual greater cause whereas him and his friends were adamantly trying to convince Cliffe that the people that saw Jesus’ resurrection would have lied about it and died for that lie. Very big difference.
Or if he was serious, he’s the kind of guy who would be fine murdering countless people if he thought it served a greater good. That’s called a sociopath.
This shows that its hard to have a rational serious conversation with young adults that still lack much life experience. They make an assumption base on their 20 years or so of existence. At that age I knew so much about nothing.
I’m on my 20’s and I pray for guidance, it feels like I know a lot but I know in another 5,10,15 especially 20 years I’ll realize I knew so little/ nothing
@@nice1cool we are all in the same boat but if you love God can you pray everyday and search the scriptures he will lead you and what you need to know and how to know it and give you discernment abstruse discernment on who to trust or how will still make mistakes because we are sinners or because we don't always listen to our authority figures including our heavenly father but he loves us they want to give us when we repent go on everyday loving the father loving Christ cetera and following the holy spirit's guidance you will be fine God bless you.
This is a true tragedy of our culture. We have degraded the respect and honor for our elders and they have been simply labeled “old school” or “boomers” to discredit any wisdom that can be gleaned. I see nothing but death coming from the left.
@@jessebryant9233 lost people believe although very deceived that they are right in their own thinking they make a god that looks just like themselves. Not the God of the Holy Bible
@@joserodolforamirez8773 Can't argue with that! Seems that we all have a tendency to think that we are right in our own eyes. Man, where have I heard before... [wink]
Tremendous stuff. The highlight for me was his Nüremberg trial reference in connection with the existence of a moral law beyond mere society constructs
You always amaze me Cliff, how you communicate with non belivers. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you for being a good example. You model such patience and knowledge. Well done!
It's so refreshing to see educated answers to tough questions where the person giving the answers isn't constantly interrupting the people asking the questions. So much respect on both sides even if the people posing the questions seem angry over nothing. I wish more believers would actually LISTEN to the people that are challenging them.
It's so funny you say that as many people on here can say negative things about this approach the only thing about his approach I don't like it sometimes because he doesn't know everything he speaks as if he knows something more than he does and that's not good but that's rare for example you know he doesn't know the truth about the Sabbath I don't know all the truth either overall his approaches Africa people.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@@rootedinchristwithberiya good for you just make sure it's a good Bible College because even some of them that were very liberal and don't teach directly from the scriptures correctly I just took a good one.
@@godislove363 Why would you go to a "college" that teaches from "scripture," by which I assume you mean the bible, that mollycoddled collection of stories assembled (I'm sure without any revision) by the Roman Empire?
Not only should they NOT teach that crap in college, they should eliminate the tax exempt status of all churches in the US, forcing them to make their books transparent. Churches hide behind that and then use their bully pulpit to influence politics with their intolerance, bigotry and mysogeny. That's more of Christians' dishonesty, although I guess it's okay when you worship a god who condones slavery, mysogeny, Mind-F'ing, pettiness, genocide and rape.
That dude who said he'd die for a lie is a great example of westernized moral relativism. The instant he'd be put in that situation he'd beg for his life
Remarkable that so many of us blame God for EVERYTHING bad that happens and there is NO mention of satan or ourselves. Goes to show who we REALLY worship.
My admiration to you sir for preaching and teaching and reasoning with these poor Godless people. You are very intelligent and do an excellent job. Thank you for trying and sometimes succeeding. Love to hear you. God bless
As a public school teacher I now know and see the results of being forced by the administration, school board and certain govt. officials to pass students and give them a high school diploma when they have not earned it. We are in serious trouble.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@@daome2012 From God Just like John the Baptist John 1 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. And the prophets Psalm 105:26 He sent Moses His servant, And Aaron, whom He had chosen. Jer 25:4 And the LORD has sent to you all His servants the prophets again and again, but you have not listened nor inclined your ear to hear, Is John the Baptist God? Are the prophets God? No
@@mitchellc4 "Just like John the Baptist... And the prophets? Jesus had a *father* and mother just like John and the prophets? "Is John the Baptist God? Are the prophets God... No? Does your Bible contain John 1:1?
Cliff is such an amazing speaker! I hope he comes to Singapore! It’s sad that Cliff respects these people’s opinions but these people don’t even respect him. Mad respect for Cliff for having such patience!
I like the first part how cliffe corrected them about job. In the bible god was just testing job faith clearly writing out in the bible with god did this with satan. Cliffe made it clear to them even while they mock god. Great job cliffe
None of us are good. Not one. Even the “good person” knows that they don’t do good all the time. God is the standard and we will never meet that standard. Thank God for sending Christ to save us from our sins because we can never save ourselves.
I agree we can't save ourselves...however god says to be perfect like I am perfect...so that tells me it's possible to be perfect...also ,I don't think god would give us commandments,that we couldn't follow...so he has asked us to do the possible....I know it's a messed up,world and it seems impossible not to sin, but I think it is possible...ask yourself, can you stop sinning for a sec?...what about a min?..how about an hour..etc etc...
God is not a standard to be good, he is the creator, he is out of the creation, we can compare ourself to messengers or deciples, but still we can be good with our deeds and morals.
People think they are good because their definition of "good" is social standards, not theological standards. Keep in mind, everything the Nazis did was legal, so most of them thought it was good. I don't see myself as good, I'm both evil and good, depending on circumstances. But this is based on social standards. In terms of nature, I'm completely neutral. I'm only good by social standards because of the potential consequences, it's not so much morals but ethics, because it's safer not to do stupid things that cause more issues. I can't understand when people say "I'm a good person." They should all be placed in circumstances to prove to themselves that they're really not.
I have to give Cliffe great credit for doing what he does, very few pastors that I'm aware of actually do what Cliffe does, I have great admiration for him in that respect. He encourages very difficult questions from brash young students and faces their questions head-on. It would be good to see more pastors and men of the cloth take on hard questions from the public. I disagree with his conclusions about the New Testament, but he gets my full admiration for his candid approach.
@Jesse Bryant @saint paul I would say it's too late for Toms he will not learn his heart is hardened, he has Stone his mind is nothing he is only wanting to work for Satan I will never give up on that spot anymore I don't even want to say. There's nothing left to judge only God knows for sure but I'm done trying to reach him, but I'll be on here to make sure you don't destroy any other Christians.
@@godislove363 Who knows. If he were to surrender to Christ at this point he might become a very humble and effective witness. But I fear that you may be right... (See Proverbs 29:1)
@@jessebryant9233 yes Jesse that's what I'm saying, like I said I'm not God So I don't know Tom's Heart, or where he will end up one day, but from the evidence shown and the fruits of his labor I don't trust it. But I wish she would turn around and do the work the Lord like called it he was Saul when Saul had a conversion it was beautiful.
@@godislove363 ??? Name me one Christian I've 'destroyed' Jacob?, destroyed in what way?, I would never tell a Christian to stop believing in God or Christ, this is a subject that I've been immersed in from a very early age. I don't believe the Christian God, or any other God exists, and that would also include this Satan character you claim I'm working for??? ..and any angels, pixies, demons or other imaginary creatures. Having an opposing view to Cliffe and other Christians doesn't mean I'm out to destroy their faith. That's nonsense Jacob.
People believe in past people who have died and never seen them except pictures in a book or monuments that bear their names but still dien the existence of Jesus Some People in this day in age act just like the regilous leaders in Jesus Christ time on earth and supposed to be well educated in law of the prophets Thank you for the ones that are spreading the message of Jesus Christ. And know the evidence and the truth like Mr Cliff. People have more faith in government and people than in the God who made the people. It comes down to one thing either excepting Jesus Christ or reject him. That's the choice hopefully all will make the right decision before it is too late
The guy that says he would lose his life for the greater good has more faith that people will do whatever they promised him and it would not happen. How will he know they carried out what they told him. If he is dead. God help this guy see the truth 🙏🙏
Cliffe, Great videos i really enjoy them. A good thing to mention is that Paul quotes from the synoptics. Paul died in 63AD. And the earliest gospel manuscript we have is decades older than that. Thus the inductive argument that therefor the synoptics were written by OTHER sources far removed is totally false. In fact, Paul calls it scripture when he talks of the synoptics. Church tradition holds scripture at the highest as the very word of God. God breathed. We can therefor be certain that Matthew was penned by Matthew etc.
The reason you can't keep living in sin and not care about it and say "if I'm a Christian and Jesus forgave me" while you're still sinning, is that the Bible clearly says in multiple parts of scripture that faith without works is dead (James 2:17) and that if someone says they know God but don't keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:7) You cannot use Christ as a footstool for justification of evil. I hope God brings this people to repentance and trust in Jesus.
Love your answers. Hearing the questions, It's always interesting the transactional, servant-like view of God many people have: "If He really is there and is good, He would do right on my terms, and fix all our problems until he creates heaven on earth, and He must allow me to do whatever I want, coz my freedom is too important, hence he must also keep his opinions of me, mine and anything I have an opinion about to Himself. Oh, and then He must buzz off when I don't want Him, coz who does He think He is?" We really are Adam and Eve reborn, we want to BE God so bad, that even if He exists, He must conform to our views, logic, standards and limitations, and never go beyond them. I'm willing to bet that very many people today would respond like Baalam if confronted by a Godly experience: even if things in nature started talking to us about God, even if He appeared to us directly.
Given the "incorrect" view of God "many people have," I'm glad I read your comment. Finally, I have met the one true christian. Where the F do you get these crazy ideas from?
@@DJRickard2010 not sure if you're mocking me, but I simply combined all the arguments I've heard people use for God to make them happy. We act like it is us that he must serve, and we must have things only our way.
@@stevetherush1193 I was mocking you, and I apologize. It’s just that religion is one of the few places where people can make fantastical claims and not back them by any evidence. Even the Bible, which is interpreted differently by the over 1000 denominations of Christianity, and as you showed, more so by individual Christians.
@gavin Hmmm. Do you have any evidence for that, besides that collection of forged, edited, interpreted, copied and cherrypicked words you call the bible?
Historical evidence: learning about fiction and non-fiction, literary styles, dating manuscripts, archeology. Historical evidence is different from scientific evidence, you cannot repeat a historical fact. thanks Cliffe.
All higher sentient beings experience exactly the same spectrum of emotions that humans experience. Humans ignore that fact so they can continue torturing and killing them without a thought. God's innocent creations are at the mercy of His mindlessly cruel creations. I must remember to question Him about his motive on this matter.
now i understand why my dad told me son dont go to these universities or colleges cause they wont teach you anything good. instead he told me to work with my own hands and im financially better off now then if i went to college.
At 5:30 that is the best universal issue we all need to face of Satan challenging God that he Satan could turn job away from God who was accused of protecting job thus job remaining faithful. Will each and every one of us be faithful to God , no excuses no snyd comments and back handed comments will we all be faithful to God or not.
God could have simply not created us and been fine with just himself, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, as Jesus said in John 17:5: "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." The fact that God made us in his image means he wanted us to be in a relationship with him as he had been in relationship with himself - one in three persons, for God is the same, yesterday, today and forevermore. God is relational, and he cannot abide sin, and sin came in with Lucifer's fall from grace, which was his choice, along with the third of the angels. When Satan (fallen Lucifer) deceieved Eve, he did so in order to get back at God for exiling him and condemning him to Hell, as there's no return for Satan. Satan's only attack against God is for him to either get us to not believe in God; or, to hate God as he does. We have free will and choice to, either, believe in he who alone can save us from this fallen world - Jesus Christ; or, contend against the idea of God by believing we alone are our own moral agents. If we are our own moral agents, who can say they are without sin? That is the question, for to deny that there is no difference between good and evil is to deny one's own conscience, and to deny such is to not be truthful. Jesus is truth. Without his death and resurrection and the blood he shed for our sins, we're toast!
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Yes, but she also made the great point that today we rely on much more information to back up eye witness claims. You also have to factor in that eye witness testimony can be highly unreliable and I don't think it's used today as the sole evidence to convict someone.
@@bonnie43uk true.. eye witness can be concocted as well.. with false narratives. But there's not much really given the time of Jesus's existence. And the greatest of the claim being the resurrection needs more than just 500 people saying they saw him after his death. Since this claim is supernatural, it can only go along with faith.
@@kalebj7001 But not faith without good reason! And of course, if the resurrection did occur, it is the most important thing. If not, then ultimately nothing is important. Now, are you like Bonnie who believe in a naturalistic explanation of the universe - but when challenged he has no evidence, not witnesses, no science - and simply says, "I'm no expert," meaning, he simply believes... by faith, without good reasons! _What is YOUR worldview?_
KJV Ecclesiastes 1:13-18 13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith. 14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. 15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered. 16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge. 17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
@@jasonnoble7814 Not really. It is objectively NOT living it out to murder someone for being different. That is not following Jesus. That is objective.
24:00 the problem is what if they’re lying, I’m sure he wouldn’t believe them right away that would require blind faith in the persons word that peace would actually happen.
Its just the younger generation, they just think that they know everything. They need proof of everything before they can believe it. If they didn't grow up in homes being taught about Jesus Christ than they won't know anything about Him, and that's understandable.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Hit the like button.. tons of views tons of great dialogue.. lots of respect and tolerance from many angles. Shout out to cliffe and Stuart. I cant wait to go to Connecticut to meet them both
I know God and my Lord Jesus are real. Along with the Holy Spirit. I dont need blind faith. Because God has sent his spirit to make me clean when I gave up control to him. He is Good and Amazing. And so wise, that it is hard to understand all the things that has happened in this world. But once you do understand how wise and the vastness of His wisdom and intelligence. You are in Awe before it. Its impossible for young children like these to understand just yet. But Cliffe is planting seeds. And maybe, through enough suffering, they will one day understand.
@@jasonnoble7814 Hi jason. I never knew that it was you who uploaded this video !?!?.... But i cant complain, at least you're finally useful for something. Thanks again. ✌
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
7:15 Cliff I think that’s the problem because they’re are at Uni they are getting dumbed down. I know he says to himself these kids are getting dumber and ruder every year.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Great debate Cliffe. The 500 witness argument from atheists gets so tiring. I mean how many witnesses would be enough?! I admire your courage. #goteamcliffe
It is a great debate Rachel, I tend to side with the students personally, i think they ask great questions. I disagree with you that this 500 witnesses claim gets tiring, ... it's a very good point, Cliffe accepts the 1st Corinthians 15 passage as 'gospel' truth ( no pun intended). The problem for me and for many skeptics is that essentially, it's an unsubstantiated claim in a book written nearly 2 thousand years ago, there is absolutely no way in which to verify that Jesus was seen by over 500 people after he'd been dead for over 3 days, it wouldn't matter if it were 5 people, 20 people, or even a thousand people, we cannot verify such a claim. From my perspective, I have to ask what is more likely, that a supernatural event actually took place ( and many many others according to the New Testament), or, that stories were greatly embellished for any number of reasons. We know that people have a propensity to exaggerate and lie, on the other hand, we have absolutely zero evidence of a supernatural occurrence. On this basis, I'm reasonably sure it's not true. Can I prove it?, no, but by the same token, neither can you or anyone else prove *any* of the miracle claims in the New Testament. This is where your faith plays a key part in believing it. I agree with you that it takes a certain amount of courage to do what Cliffe does, and he gets my admiration for that.
@@bonnie43uk thank you for your lovely, thoughtful reply bonnie. I agree the 500 witness question is a good one but my frustration with it is that no amount of witnesses at that time would be enough for most atheists which results in a unanswered debate and goes round in circles! I think once you become a believer in Jesus. 500 is more than enough but your right that comes via a step of faith. I think sometimes what happens in these debates is that we talk about miracles that happened 2000+ years ago as 'evidence' but we don't discuss the very real miracles that are happening today. Because they are all around the globe. I'm not sure if you would be interested but I think you might enjoy them. Both family movies. One is called 'Case For Christ' whereby an atheist journalist goes on 3-4 year quest to prove the Reserection isn't true and focuses purley on the resserection. And the other is called 'Breakthrough'. Both true stories. And both focus upon Jesus and how he works in the 'present' You can find them on Prime Amazon and are two of the best films I have ever watched on these topics.
@@seascape1059 Thanks for your lovely thoughtful reply as well Rachel.😊 Clearly our mindsets are completely different on this, and that's ok, it's good to hear different opinions. As I said, there is no way to confirm this actual 500 number, or whatever number 1st Corinthians 15 would have used.. any number would have been just as impossible to confirm. I suppose 500 though is a heck of a lot of people and it conjures up an image in the mind of hundreds of people seeing Jesus 3 days after he'd been crucified and killed .. it kind of bolsters the Christians belief that if it says that big number in the NT, and the New Testament is the Gospel truth, again, no pun intended, then it can only affirm your belief. Yes, I'm well aware of Lee Strobels book The Case for Christ, it's been a huge number 1 book seller all over the world, again, this for you affirms and confirms your own beliefs Rachel. I don't doubt Lee Strobels sincerity, he comes across as a decent guy, but it's not so convincing from an atheists viewpoint. I am hugely skeptical of any supernatural miracle claims, and obviously, the Bible itself is crammed with tales of miraculous occurrences in both the Old and New Testament. My father named me Thomas, heh, maybe he knew I was going to be a bit of a doubting Thomas :-) ... if I see any credible evidence of a supernatural event, I will have to adjust my thinking. Good to hear from you Rachel .. I am male, the 'bonnie' name is a song I like .. just in case you were wondering 😊
One of the issues with people is they think and/or say the New Testament was written by the same authors around the same period of time. "I want evidence outside of or besides the Bible." The issue with that statement is the Bible, specifically the New Testament, is a COLLECTION of testimonies to include a former enemy and persecutor of Christ, Paul, as well as the Roman's who lied about the disappearance of Jesus's body from the tomb. Call this what you want but that is not only HARD evidence but in any modern court rather convincing evidence. Enemies of Christ gave testimonies confirming followers of Christ's testimony. Throw on the fact that most of the twelve died for what they SAW, corroborated by evidence outside the gospels, and contrast this with religious zealots today who die for what they DIDN'T SEE. Big difference.
When he mentioned "Jimmy Jones" and David Koresh, I thought. "These students have probably never heard of either one." I hope they have, but I wouldn't bet the rent.
@@mickqQ friend, he prayed 3 powerful prayers on that cross. Two of them being "Father forgive them; for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34) "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Forsaken means abandon. He never once prayed to God that “he wouldn’t have to do it.” His words point to the fact that when Jesus died on the cross, all our sins-without exception-were transferred to Him. He was without sin, for He was God in human flesh. But as He died all our sins were placed on Him, and He became the final and complete sacrifice for our sins. And in that moment He was banished from the presence of God, for sin cannot exist in God’s presence. His cry speaks of this truth; He endured the separation from God that you and I deserve.
A good counter argument to the person who says they'll die for a lie; So you would turn yourself in for a stranger and get life in prison/executed for a lie? If they say yes theyre a liar. Which is also kind of the point.
That's not a good counter argument. They never specified what lie they would die for. Substitute in "stranger" for someone they care about then it'd be a better question. Or maybe ask them what specific lie they'd die for, maybe they want to die for some cause they believed was good to promote, or maybe they want to try saving their dignity so they double down on a lie.
That statement makes me laugh..why do things happen to good people...smh..there is no good people... All have fallen short of the glory of God. Nah not one will be justified in his presence.
I've seen your older videos and these newer ones. The change in the mentality and arguments of college students has changed so much. Now away they ask questions from a privileged viewpoints. Why me, why bad things, i don't deserve, I, me.....
@Nebula Voltron That doesn't answer my question Sir? What is your fundamental singular reference that you use to be able to know the difference between a psycho or now crazy amount of comments that follows I should get some fresh air ? What is your frame of reference Sir ?
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If the rules of evidence are applied to the four gospels, they are admissible in a court of law as eyewitness accounts of the events they describe. They also have more manuscript evidence to their veracity than any other ancient text we have today. The truth they lay out confronts us at the most basic level. It confronts our conscious and our heart. The standard of life is Jesus, how he lived, and why he died, and that he in fact rose from the dead. We only have this life that we are now in to make the most important decision we will ever make and that will determine where we will spend eternity. Do we believe God and what he said about our situation, and accept the gift he gave to heal the wound that is in all of us. That festering wound is sin. That is what we have to decide.
Neither would one who is a true parent tell their children to be all the evil as they can be, and that they will forgive them, nor would one who is a true son/daughter be disobedient to a true parent.
I would like to debate a moral point argument to the questions or statements “God isn’t real” And ask “why is Right Good, and Bad is Evil?” Who gave us that type of morality”
Let’s be honest about where cancer, mental health issues and other health issues comes from....pharmaceuticals doing “research” on us, big corporations messing with our food sources and government taking medical advice from a computer programmer. When I was a kid we didn’t hear about kids dying of cancer. We saw a few kids with “behavioural” issues...autism was rare, as were mental health illnesses...these days it seems just about every other child is sick and babies are born with cancers....
KJV Matthew 5:17-20 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
I think its cool that Cliffe is reuploading older videos especially when he is going viral on social media right now
Social media?
He's going viral? How or what platform
@@Josiahministries Tik Tok that I’ve seen
@@Josiahministries I’ve seen him a lot on TikTok from others posting clips of his videos. And from there own page.
Been watching his videos since few weeks. Tik Tok in banned in India but good thing his videos are available for UA-cam!!
My heart goes to all those kids who are laying on the grass, throwing frisbee, whatever and are missing Cliff's life changing message. If they only knew...
They’re doing things far more worthy than pretending there’s a man in the sky waiting for us to touch ourselves so he can punish our dead bodies with eternal suffering. Makes absolutely no sense. Throwing frisbee? That makes sense.
@@jk.9300 Sorry, cannot agree in the most loving way...
@@jk.9300 Let's just say there's time and a place for everything.
@@jk.9300 It’s sad that you think that way. :(
@@jk.9300 sad
Cliffe’s patience is INCREDIBLE!!
This type of smart alec cynicism is disgustingly sad.
Got to start somewhere! At least they are engaging. Hopefully, unlike the resident troll Bonnie, they will progress.
@@jessebryant9233
Yeah true. Good points!
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@@mitchellc4
Oh no! The Copy and Paste Crusader is back! Please, go paste your usual reply to any and all of Bonnie's comments...
@@jessebryant9233 AMEN TO THAT.
The hardest thing is knowing the answer as soon as they ask the question and waiting for them to finish with a smug look on their face like they scored the winning goal. Where would we be without the Fruit of the Spirit? lol Grateful for Cliff's ministry and continually keeping him in prayers. May God be glorified.
Amen.
My question would be how do you know the Christian God is good #smuglookonmyface
Amen amen amen!
@@princia2149 blessings to you
Hitler knows his childhood, his school life, his family and friends much better than me. Because I have born much later. So, if Hitler or any of his friends or family writes a book about Hitler, that is alright. If I write a book about Hitler, that means either I have copied from first hand sources or I am just talking nonsense. In the same way if the disciples of Jesus write something about Jesus, that is alright. But if Muhammad or somebody writes anything about Jesus 600 - 800 years later, that means either it is a copy from the disciples of Jesus or Quran is a stupid nonsense book. And Quran 4:157 and 158 say that Jesus was not crucified. So, Quran is nonsense stupid book. So, WHATEVER ELSE Quran says is also wrong. So, good bye Quran.
Really horrible what these colleges and universities do to these precious young minds. Thank God for you Cliffe and your love for your fellow man.
Which god?
@@mickqQ Zeus, Allah or Thor? There have been hundreds of "Gods".
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
Exactly
So when the op thanks god ... it’s only Pertinent to ask which one
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp The story of Jesus is situated in history, in a real time and a real place with real people verified by archeology. Are those others? Mohamed is a real person, i agree with that one. But Jesus claimed to be God and rose from the dead and also lived and taught a sinless life. Mohamed didn't do any of those. So I would hope you would have more faith in Jesus telling you what's real than any of those others.
@@will95515 That Jesus claimed to be God and rose from the dead and also lived and taught a sinless life - is all just myth invented by unknown ignorant superstitious men who wrote the Bible 300-years after this Jesus guy was supposed to have existed.
No eye witnesses of this claimed rising from the dead existed when the Bible was written. Would you trust a second hand account passed down by hundreds of people over 300-years? Of course you wouldn't.
The Bible is all fairy tales. You might as well read Harry Potter novels - they contain about as much truth as that old book, the Bible.
Cliffe has a gift from GOD to explain the Truth of JESUS CHRIST!
Hitler knows his childhood, his school life, his family and friends much better than me. Because I have born much later. So, if Hitler or any of his friends or family writes a book about Hitler, that is alright. If I write a book about Hitler, that means either I have copied from first hand sources or I am just talking nonsense. In the same way if the disciples of Jesus write something about Jesus, that is alright. But if Muhammad or somebody writes anything about Jesus 600 - 800 years later, that means either it is a copy from the disciples of Jesus or Quran is a stupid nonsense book. And Quran 4:157 and 158 say that Jesus was not crucified. So, Quran is nonsense stupid book. So, WHATEVER ELSE Quran says is also wrong. So, good bye Quran.
You are a more patient than me, Cliffe. That first person was so condescending, and I would have just said, “come back to me when you can take what I have to say seriously” but you did well to demonstrate the love and patience of Christ, well done brother
At some point with these folks this verse comes to mind
Matthew 7:6 KJV
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Some aren't looking for proof they are only dialoging to" prove" him "wrong"
I’ve never understood the argument “why doesn’t God do something for me”
Do people not understand what a God is?
They don't. Their egos won't allow them to understand that the created don't get to define the creator.
Sir, you have really helped me reaffirm my faith. I been seeing some articles saying that Christianity is false and stuff, and you really help me. Thanks!
The more you search for Christ, the more you realize that there’s a creator out there who loves you and cares for you. He is the only one who can change your life. Like Cliffe said, if Jesus didn’t rise from the dead, I wouldn’t believe and just like Paul said as well.
@@SolidPain6624 amen to that! I saw this guy named Bart Ehrman and he kind of discredited the Bible, and that really made me skeptical but then I looked more and it was just that he embellished all his points
@@SolidPain6624 Amen, so right.
@@swatchedlimpune6668 brother, I don’t know you at all, but I’ll keep you in my prayers tonight! The Devil will attack and attack and attack but the armor of God is available to be put to use. None of us are perfect, that’s why we need Jesus. He transformed my life. I no longer suffer from suicidal thoughts. God bless you on your journey.
@@SolidPain6624 AMEN 🙏🏽 ✝️♥️
Asking why there is bad things in the world is like asking why your arm is on fire when your the one holding the torch to it.
Great analogy 👏 😆 I seriously got a visual of that.....
honestly as extreme as that is, that’s a perfect example 😅. like, imagine drinking poison and wondering why you’re dying.
What I really love is that these guys are so prepared to reject what the evidence says that Jesus did because it’s “a series of anecdotes” but yet wouldn’t think twice about willingly accepting any kind of historical, evolutionary, or Big Bang related event that their professors would present them. It’s simply just too unpopular to be a Christian in today’s society it seems. Sad.
I would argue that its never been popular to be a Christian.
You're close to spot on
Science > Anecdotes
Yes they want to live their own lives how they want to and continue to sin without God. They blame God for all the bad stuff happening in the world yet dont own up to their sinful nature and ignore we are not good people.
Yea because humans want to live their lives without consequences and accountability. Big bang and evolution are ridiculous theories and I have always wondered how people who claim to be smart can’t see that. Guess it’s like what the Bible said”professing to be wise they became fools…”
Rip to lil bro who been raising his hand for about 30 mins 😭😭😭
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
No shoulder workout this week
Was closer to 10 minutes; you exaggerated a bit.
@@JesusIsTheWay59 😂😂 10 mins!!!
@@jominksimon9296 30 mins would take absurd commitment and determination.
Psalm 14;1
The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt,
They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good.
When you love somebody so much and they just leave you for someone else, you will be rightly jealous
the smug kid in the sunglasses says he would die if things would change in the MIddle East. He essentially says he's willing to die for the greater good. I don't believe he'd be willing to give up his cell phone.
He very likely wouldn’t have. Also he was making a false equivalency. He was talking about dying for an actual greater cause whereas him and his friends were adamantly trying to convince Cliffe that the people that saw Jesus’ resurrection would have lied about it and died for that lie. Very big difference.
I'm so tired of people acting like they're hero's. So cringe
LIE, "normal" thing people do
Or if he was serious, he’s the kind of guy who would be fine murdering countless people if he thought it served a greater good. That’s called a sociopath.
This shows that its hard to have a rational serious conversation with young adults that still lack much life experience. They make an assumption base on their 20 years or so of existence. At that age I knew so much about nothing.
When I was in college we could as most were not dumbed down and in how raised. The Bible foretold this.
I’m on my 20’s and I pray for guidance, it feels like I know a lot but I know in another 5,10,15 especially 20 years I’ll realize I knew so little/ nothing
@@nice1cool we are all in the same boat but if you love God can you pray everyday and search the scriptures he will lead you and what you need to know and how to know it and give you discernment abstruse discernment on who to trust or how will still make mistakes because we are sinners or because we don't always listen to our authority figures including our heavenly father but he loves us they want to give us when we repent go on everyday loving the father loving Christ cetera and following the holy spirit's guidance you will be fine God bless you.
This is a true tragedy of our culture. We have degraded the respect and honor for our elders and they have been simply labeled “old school” or “boomers” to discredit any wisdom that can be gleaned.
I see nothing but death coming from the left.
@@nice1cool I will give you my word you will be years ahead of your peers on this paths.
Lost people have no sense of right and wrong. Up and down and no limits of how evil they can be.
No sense? Romans 2:14-15? If they have no sense of right and wrong, why are there so many laws? Not sure I understood what you meant...
@@jessebryant9233 lost people believe although very deceived that they are right in their own thinking they make a god that looks just like themselves. Not the God of the Holy Bible
@@joserodolforamirez8773
Can't argue with that! Seems that we all have a tendency to think that we are right in our own eyes. Man, where have I heard before... [wink]
@@jessebryant9233 Tom, Jason, mycontext and numerous others.
@@joserodolforamirez8773 Being that there are over a thousand denominations of Christianity, which ones are lost?
Cliff just spitting facts
Tremendous stuff. The highlight for me was his Nüremberg trial reference in connection with the existence of a moral law beyond mere society constructs
Me too I was so impressed by that
Not really ,as it depends how that above law was derived from ,could be dangerous depending on who has the club ,besides most of them had faith.
You always amaze me Cliff, how you communicate with non belivers. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you for being a good example. You model such patience and knowledge. Well done!
It's so refreshing to see educated answers to tough questions where the person giving the answers isn't constantly interrupting the people asking the questions. So much respect on both sides even if the people posing the questions seem angry over nothing. I wish more believers would actually LISTEN to the people that are challenging them.
It's so funny you say that as many people on here can say negative things about this approach the only thing about his approach I don't like it sometimes because he doesn't know everything he speaks as if he knows something more than he does and that's not good but that's rare for example you know he doesn't know the truth about the Sabbath I don't know all the truth either overall his approaches Africa people.
Thanks for your labor of love brother Cliffe
God bless you cliff and your family❤️
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
It's sad that college isn't teaching anymore. I'm glad I didn't go.
Amen, God will Lead.
They don’t that’s why I am transferring to Bible college.
@@rootedinchristwithberiya good for you just make sure it's a good Bible College because even some of them that were very liberal and don't teach directly from the scriptures correctly I just took a good one.
@@godislove363 Why would you go to a "college" that teaches from "scripture," by which I assume you mean the bible, that mollycoddled collection of stories assembled (I'm sure without any revision) by the Roman Empire?
Not only should they NOT teach that crap in college, they should eliminate the tax exempt status of all churches in the US, forcing them to make their books transparent. Churches hide behind that and then use their bully pulpit to influence politics with their intolerance, bigotry and mysogeny. That's more of Christians' dishonesty, although I guess it's okay when you worship a god who condones slavery, mysogeny, Mind-F'ing, pettiness, genocide and rape.
That dude who said he'd die for a lie is a great example of westernized moral relativism. The instant he'd be put in that situation he'd beg for his life
Remarkable that so many of us blame God for EVERYTHING bad that happens and there is NO mention of satan or ourselves. Goes to show who we REALLY worship.
God bless you, Cliffe! You are a kingdom builder.
@lary Snw What makes you think that?
@larysnw418how did you come to that conclusion?
When that guy asked why should we feed the hungery he should have replied because their hungery lol
You edited your post and still forgot to correctly spell hungry*
My admiration to you sir for preaching and teaching and reasoning with these poor Godless people.
You are very intelligent and do an excellent job. Thank you for trying and sometimes succeeding.
Love to hear you. God bless
I honor you sir, it's not easy what you are doing. God bless you and your family.
As a public school teacher I now know and see the results of being forced by the administration, school board and certain govt. officials to pass students and give them a high school diploma when they have not earned it. We are in serious trouble.
Why Do People Think That They Are Good?
Because people are *taught* that they are good.
There is such thing as better and worse
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@@mitchellc4 "...Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent."
From *where* was Jesus sent?
@@daome2012
From God
Just like John the Baptist
John 1
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
And the prophets
Psalm 105:26
He sent Moses His servant,
And Aaron, whom He had chosen.
Jer 25:4
And the LORD has sent to you all His servants the prophets again and again, but you have not listened nor inclined your ear to hear,
Is John the Baptist God? Are the prophets God?
No
@@mitchellc4 "Just like John the Baptist... And the prophets?
Jesus had a *father* and mother just like John and the prophets?
"Is John the Baptist God? Are the prophets God... No?
Does your Bible contain John 1:1?
Cliff is such an amazing speaker! I hope he comes to Singapore! It’s sad that Cliff respects these people’s opinions but these people don’t even respect him. Mad respect for Cliff for having such patience!
Preach it Pastor!
I like the first part how cliffe corrected them about job. In the bible god was just testing job faith clearly writing out in the bible with god did this with satan. Cliffe made it clear to them even while they mock god. Great job cliffe
None of us are good. Not one. Even the “good person” knows that they don’t do good all the time. God is the standard and we will never meet that standard. Thank God for sending Christ to save us from our sins because we can never save ourselves.
I agree we can't save ourselves...however god says to be perfect like I am perfect...so that tells me it's possible to be perfect...also ,I don't think god would give us commandments,that we couldn't follow...so he has asked us to do the possible....I know it's a messed up,world and it seems impossible not to sin, but I think it is possible...ask yourself, can you stop sinning for a sec?...what about a min?..how about an hour..etc etc...
God is not a standard to be good, he is the creator, he is out of the creation, we can compare ourself to messengers or deciples, but still we can be good with our deeds and morals.
@@MD99111 you must be reading a different Bible then sir. There is nothing to back up that claim you have just made
@@MD99111 we can do good things but we can never be consistently as good as God. It is impossible. Righteous under God? Yes. Always good? Never.
MZ RM god is not the standard to of good!?..did you mean to say that?....god is only perfect..of course he's the standard
Cliffe's patience is top of the line. Jesus bless him✝️🙏💞✌
People think they are good because their definition of "good" is social standards, not theological standards. Keep in mind, everything the Nazis did was legal, so most of them thought it was good. I don't see myself as good, I'm both evil and good, depending on circumstances. But this is based on social standards. In terms of nature, I'm completely neutral. I'm only good by social standards because of the potential consequences, it's not so much morals but ethics, because it's safer not to do stupid things that cause more issues. I can't understand when people say "I'm a good person." They should all be placed in circumstances to prove to themselves that they're really not.
Integrity is what you do when no one is looking....
Used to look forward to these on Sunday mornings back in the day. Cliff is the OG
I have to give Cliffe great credit for doing what he does, very few pastors that I'm aware of actually do what Cliffe does, I have great admiration for him in that respect. He encourages very difficult questions from brash young students and faces their questions head-on. It would be good to see more pastors and men of the cloth take on hard questions from the public. I disagree with his conclusions about the New Testament, but he gets my full admiration for his candid approach.
You should try listening instead of being facetious and trolling. Who knows, you might learn something!
@Jesse Bryant
@saint paul
I would say it's too late for Toms he will not learn his heart is hardened, he has Stone his mind is nothing he is only wanting to work for Satan I will never give up on that spot anymore I don't even want to say. There's nothing left to judge only God knows for sure but I'm done trying to reach him, but I'll be on here to make sure you don't destroy any other Christians.
@@godislove363
Who knows. If he were to surrender to Christ at this point he might become a very humble and effective witness. But I fear that you may be right... (See Proverbs 29:1)
@@jessebryant9233 yes Jesse that's what I'm saying, like I said I'm not God So I don't know Tom's Heart, or where he will end up one day, but from the evidence shown and the fruits of his labor I don't trust it. But I wish she would turn around and do the work the Lord like called it he was Saul when Saul had a conversion it was beautiful.
@@godislove363 ??? Name me one Christian I've 'destroyed' Jacob?, destroyed in what way?, I would never tell a Christian to stop believing in God or Christ, this is a subject that I've been immersed in from a very early age. I don't believe the Christian God, or any other God exists, and that would also include this Satan character you claim I'm working for??? ..and any angels, pixies, demons or other imaginary creatures. Having an opposing view to Cliffe and other Christians doesn't mean I'm out to destroy their faith. That's nonsense Jacob.
People believe in past people who have died and never seen them except pictures in a book or monuments that bear their names but still dien the existence of Jesus Some People in this day in age act just like the regilous leaders in Jesus Christ time on earth and supposed to be well educated in law of the prophets Thank you for the ones that are spreading the message of Jesus Christ. And know the evidence and the truth like Mr Cliff. People have more faith in government and people than in the God who made the people. It comes down to one thing either excepting Jesus Christ or reject him. That's the choice hopefully all will make the right decision before it is too late
The guy that says he would lose his life for the greater good has more faith that people will do whatever they promised him and it would not happen. How will he know they carried out what they told him. If he is dead. God help this guy see the truth 🙏🙏
Thank you for your videos.
Cliffe, Great videos i really enjoy them. A good thing to mention is that Paul quotes from the synoptics. Paul died in 63AD. And the earliest gospel manuscript we have is decades older than that. Thus the inductive argument that therefor the synoptics were written by OTHER sources far removed is totally false. In fact, Paul calls it scripture when he talks of the synoptics.
Church tradition holds scripture at the highest as the very word of God. God breathed. We can therefor be certain that Matthew was penned by Matthew etc.
The reason you can't keep living in sin and not care about it and say "if I'm a Christian and Jesus forgave me" while you're still sinning, is that the Bible clearly says in multiple parts of scripture that faith without works is dead (James 2:17) and that if someone says they know God but don't keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:7) You cannot use Christ as a footstool for justification of evil. I hope God brings this people to repentance and trust in Jesus.
Right on.
Amen
Love your answers.
Hearing the questions, It's always interesting the transactional, servant-like view of God many people have: "If He really is there and is good, He would do right on my terms, and fix all our problems until he creates heaven on earth, and He must allow me to do whatever I want, coz my freedom is too important, hence he must also keep his opinions of me, mine and anything I have an opinion about to Himself. Oh, and then He must buzz off when I don't want Him, coz who does He think He is?"
We really are Adam and Eve reborn, we want to BE God so bad, that even if He exists, He must conform to our views, logic, standards and limitations, and never go beyond them.
I'm willing to bet that very many people today would respond like Baalam if confronted by a Godly experience: even if things in nature started talking to us about God, even if He appeared to us directly.
Given the "incorrect" view of God "many people have," I'm glad I read your comment. Finally, I have met the one true christian. Where the F do you get these crazy ideas from?
@@DJRickard2010 not sure if you're mocking me, but I simply combined all the arguments I've heard people use for God to make them happy. We act like it is us that he must serve, and we must have things only our way.
@@stevetherush1193 I was mocking you, and I apologize. It’s just that religion is one of the few places where people can make fantastical claims and not back them by any evidence. Even the Bible, which is interpreted differently by the over 1000 denominations of Christianity, and as you showed, more so by individual Christians.
@@DJRickard2010 right, so what do you believe then?
cliff, i just discovered your channel and you've already earned a new sub. great work! God Bless
Jesus is King. Remember that guys
Amen
How do you know?
King of what?
@gavin Hmmm. Do you have any evidence for that, besides that collection of forged, edited, interpreted, copied and cherrypicked words you call the bible?
@gavin you “kinda heard gods voice”? You’re going to ignore science and reasoning because you kinda heard a voice?
Thank you so much. Tremendous
Those three guys are about as smart as a boxer rocks collectively
Pardon....
Historical evidence: learning about fiction and non-fiction, literary styles, dating manuscripts, archeology. Historical evidence is different from scientific evidence, you cannot repeat a historical fact.
thanks Cliffe.
Dogs express emotions. Change my mind.
Yes and dream.
They do
Lol. Yes?
All higher sentient beings experience exactly the same spectrum of emotions that humans experience. Humans ignore that fact so they can continue torturing and killing them without a thought.
God's innocent creations are at the mercy of His mindlessly cruel creations. I must remember to question Him about his motive on this matter.
@Sigueme1 wait. Where in scripture does it say “animals go to a different place” when they die?
I am find some real Christian that loves people and want them to be saved.thanks cliffe
That dude will not put his hand down until called upon lol
now i understand why my dad told me son dont go to these universities or colleges cause they wont teach you anything good. instead he told me to work with my own hands and im financially better off now then if i went to college.
All things are possible through Christ.
I love this bro!!!❤️✝️🔥
At 5:30 that is the best universal issue we all need to face of Satan challenging God that he Satan could turn job away from God who was accused of protecting job thus job remaining faithful. Will each and every one of us be faithful to God , no excuses no snyd comments and back handed comments will we all be faithful to God or not.
Exactly, Amen.
God could have simply not created us and been fine with just himself, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, as Jesus said in John 17:5: "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."
The fact that God made us in his image means he wanted us to be in a relationship with him as he had been in relationship with himself - one in three persons, for God is the same, yesterday, today and forevermore.
God is relational, and he cannot abide sin, and sin came in with Lucifer's fall from grace, which was his choice, along with the third of the angels.
When Satan (fallen Lucifer) deceieved Eve, he did so in order to get back at God for exiling him and condemning him to Hell, as there's no return for Satan. Satan's only attack against God is for him to either get us to not believe in God; or, to hate God as he does.
We have free will and choice to, either, believe in he who alone can save us from this fallen world - Jesus Christ; or, contend against the idea of God by believing we alone are our own moral agents.
If we are our own moral agents, who can say they are without sin? That is the question, for to deny that there is no difference between good and evil is to deny one's own conscience, and to deny such is to not be truthful.
Jesus is truth. Without his death and resurrection and the blood he shed for our sins, we're toast!
Well said man🙌🏾
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Cheers 🍻
Amen 🙏
great teacher . i love you man of God
The girl in the end was actually for the evidence of eye-witness. She was actually helping in the discussion with cliffe
Yes, but she also made the great point that today we rely on much more information to back up eye witness claims. You also have to factor in that eye witness testimony can be highly unreliable and I don't think it's used today as the sole evidence to convict someone.
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@saint paul
@Jesse Bryant
Here is Tom discussing in believing truth and witnesses as a liar and of no faith.
@@bonnie43uk true.. eye witness can be concocted as well.. with false narratives. But there's not much really given the time of Jesus's existence. And the greatest of the claim being the resurrection needs more than just 500 people saying they saw him after his death. Since this claim is supernatural, it can only go along with faith.
@@kalebj7001
But not faith without good reason! And of course, if the resurrection did occur, it is the most important thing. If not, then ultimately nothing is important. Now, are you like Bonnie who believe in a naturalistic explanation of the universe - but when challenged he has no evidence, not witnesses, no science - and simply says, "I'm no expert," meaning, he simply believes... by faith, without good reasons! _What is YOUR worldview?_
@@jessebryant9233 define "good reasons"
KJV Ecclesiastes 1:13-18
13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.
16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
Jesus is God. Knowing that and living it out is all you need to be saved.
Edit: We are saved by the grace of Jesus alone, not our own actions.
“Living it out” is subjective
@@jasonnoble7814 Not really. It is objectively NOT living it out to murder someone for being different. That is not following Jesus. That is objective.
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Nope
The goal can be objective but the not killing someone is subjective
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Nope
The goal of not killing someone can be objective but the action or no action is subjective.
@@jasonnoble7814 I don't think I understood that. What do you mean the killing is subjective?
24:00 the problem is what if they’re lying, I’m sure he wouldn’t believe them right away that would require blind faith in the persons word that peace would actually happen.
Those guys at the beginning with their voices and their smug attitudes are just absolutely intolerable.
Its just the younger generation, they just think that they know everything. They need proof of everything before they can believe it. If they didn't grow up in homes being taught about Jesus Christ than they won't know anything about Him, and that's understandable.
Matthew 5:44-48
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Sadly, Their whole generation got extra helpings when the arrogance was being passed out but not quite a full helping of intellectual resources...
@@bany512 Exodus 20: 20-21
Hit the like button.. tons of views tons of great dialogue.. lots of respect and tolerance from many angles. Shout out to cliffe and Stuart. I cant wait to go to Connecticut to meet them both
This guy is good
There is none good but God. Cliffe is good at what he does, yes .
@@Joormode I think Dlove knew that.
@@godislove363 exactly, that was just extra
I know God and my Lord Jesus are real. Along with the Holy Spirit. I dont need blind faith. Because God has sent his spirit to make me clean when I gave up control to him. He is Good and Amazing. And so wise, that it is hard to understand all the things that has happened in this world. But once you do understand how wise and the vastness of His wisdom and intelligence. You are in Awe before it. Its impossible for young children like these to understand just yet. But Cliffe is planting seeds. And maybe, through enough suffering, they will one day understand.
thanks for another interesting and informative video.
You're welcome Ryan 😛
Call Ryan human exciting that we get to have Jason with us again
@@jasonnoble7814 Hi jason. I never knew that it was you who uploaded this video !?!?.... But i cant complain, at least you're finally useful for something.
Thanks again. ✌
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
7:15 Cliff I think that’s the problem because they’re are at Uni they are getting dumbed down. I know he says to himself these kids are getting dumber and ruder every year.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
At least they had grammar lessons.
Cliffe is brave
Great debate Cliffe. The 500 witness argument from atheists gets so tiring. I mean how many witnesses would be enough?! I admire your courage. #goteamcliffe
Atheist like to make truth claims and have their own faith. Yet they will not admit it
It is a great debate Rachel, I tend to side with the students personally, i think they ask great questions. I disagree with you that this 500 witnesses claim gets tiring, ... it's a very good point, Cliffe accepts the 1st Corinthians 15 passage as 'gospel' truth ( no pun intended). The problem for me and for many skeptics is that essentially, it's an unsubstantiated claim in a book written nearly 2 thousand years ago, there is absolutely no way in which to verify that Jesus was seen by over 500 people after he'd been dead for over 3 days, it wouldn't matter if it were 5 people, 20 people, or even a thousand people, we cannot verify such a claim. From my perspective, I have to ask what is more likely, that a supernatural event actually took place ( and many many others according to the New Testament), or, that stories were greatly embellished for any number of reasons. We know that people have a propensity to exaggerate and lie, on the other hand, we have absolutely zero evidence of a supernatural occurrence. On this basis, I'm reasonably sure it's not true. Can I prove it?, no, but by the same token, neither can you or anyone else prove *any* of the miracle claims in the New Testament. This is where your faith plays a key part in believing it.
I agree with you that it takes a certain amount of courage to do what Cliffe does, and he gets my admiration for that.
@@bonnie43uk thank you for your lovely, thoughtful reply bonnie. I agree the 500 witness question is a good one but my frustration with it is that no amount of witnesses at that time would be enough for most atheists which results in a unanswered debate and goes round in circles! I think once you become a believer in Jesus. 500 is more than enough but your right that comes via a step of faith.
I think sometimes what happens in these debates is that we talk about miracles that happened 2000+ years ago as 'evidence' but we don't discuss the very real miracles that are happening today. Because they are all around the globe. I'm not sure if you would be interested but I think you might enjoy them. Both family movies. One is called 'Case For Christ' whereby an atheist journalist goes on 3-4 year quest to prove the Reserection isn't true and focuses purley on the resserection. And the other is called 'Breakthrough'. Both true stories. And both focus upon Jesus and how he works in the 'present' You can find them on Prime Amazon and are two of the best films I have ever watched on these topics.
@@Dobermann89-dr2rc I agree with you. I think atheists have a great deal of 'faith' just not in Jesus!
@@seascape1059 Thanks for your lovely thoughtful reply as well Rachel.😊 Clearly our mindsets are completely different on this, and that's ok, it's good to hear different opinions. As I said, there is no way to confirm this actual 500 number, or whatever number 1st Corinthians 15 would have used.. any number would have been just as impossible to confirm. I suppose 500 though is a heck of a lot of people and it conjures up an image in the mind of hundreds of people seeing Jesus 3 days after he'd been crucified and killed .. it kind of bolsters the Christians belief that if it says that big number in the NT, and the New Testament is the Gospel truth, again, no pun intended, then it can only affirm your belief.
Yes, I'm well aware of Lee Strobels book The Case for Christ, it's been a huge number 1 book seller all over the world, again, this for you affirms and confirms your own beliefs Rachel. I don't doubt Lee Strobels sincerity, he comes across as a decent guy, but it's not so convincing from an atheists viewpoint. I am hugely skeptical of any supernatural miracle claims, and obviously, the Bible itself is crammed with tales of miraculous occurrences in both the Old and New Testament.
My father named me Thomas, heh, maybe he knew I was going to be a bit of a doubting Thomas :-) ... if I see any credible evidence of a supernatural event, I will have to adjust my thinking. Good to hear from you Rachel .. I am male, the 'bonnie' name is a song I like .. just in case you were wondering 😊
Thank you!
All of Cliffs videos look like they are being recorded in the 80s lol I love it though
These are old videos.
The 80s? More like late 90s/ early 2000s. Were you born just recently?
One of the issues with people is they think and/or say the New Testament was written by the same authors around the same period of time.
"I want evidence outside of or besides the Bible."
The issue with that statement is the Bible, specifically the New Testament, is a COLLECTION of testimonies to include a former enemy and persecutor of Christ, Paul, as well as the Roman's who lied about the disappearance of Jesus's body from the tomb. Call this what you want but that is not only HARD evidence but in any modern court rather convincing evidence. Enemies of Christ gave testimonies confirming followers of Christ's testimony.
Throw on the fact that most of the twelve died for what they SAW, corroborated by evidence outside the gospels, and contrast this with religious zealots today who die for what they DIDN'T SEE. Big difference.
Why doesn’t Cliff show how Jesus fulfilled prophecy?
He has at other times.
@lary Snw Isaiah 53 is a good start.
I want to see the whole conversation!!!
These college kids.... wow... i hope they arent paying too much to their university
When he mentioned "Jimmy Jones" and David Koresh, I thought. "These students have probably never heard of either one." I hope they have, but I wouldn't bet the rent.
Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered(Jesus).
That’s a good... I’m stealing it... Lord forgive me
Jesus didn’t volunteer
He actually asked that it not happen , but it was gods plan so he had to go along with it
@@mickqQ the definition of volunteer :freely offer to do something. Jesus gave him self as a living sacrifice/ offering! Much love
@@ChelseyPage
No he didn’t
He prayed to god that he wouldn’t have to do it ,
Don’t you think human sacrifice is rather disgusting
@@mickqQ friend, he prayed 3 powerful prayers on that cross. Two of them being "Father forgive them; for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34) "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Forsaken means abandon.
He never once prayed to God that “he wouldn’t have to do it.” His words point to the fact that when Jesus died on the cross, all our sins-without exception-were transferred to Him. He was without sin, for He was God in human flesh. But as He died all our sins were placed on Him, and He became the final and complete sacrifice for our sins. And in that moment He was banished from the presence of God, for sin cannot exist in God’s presence. His cry speaks of this truth; He endured the separation from God that you and I deserve.
A good counter argument to the person who says they'll die for a lie; So you would turn yourself in for a stranger and get life in prison/executed for a lie? If they say yes theyre a liar. Which is also kind of the point.
That's not a good counter argument. They never specified what lie they would die for.
Substitute in "stranger" for someone they care about then it'd be a better question.
Or maybe ask them what specific lie they'd die for, maybe they want to die for some cause they believed was good to promote, or maybe they want to try saving their dignity so they double down on a lie.
That statement makes me laugh..why do things happen to good people...smh..there is no good people... All have fallen short of the glory of God. Nah not one will be justified in his presence.
Amen.
Prove it
@@jasonnoble7814 bible done that for me so take it up with God cuz he ain't no liar.
@@anchorinthestormministries Amen.
@@jasonnoble7814 Prove you're not an idiot
I've seen your older videos and these newer ones. The change in the mentality and arguments of college students has changed so much. Now away they ask questions from a privileged viewpoints. Why me, why bad things, i don't deserve, I, me.....
Such annoying kids. Emphasis on the kids
Yeah, like get in line and just bow down to the authority of God!! Stop thinking for yourself 🤷♂️🤯
@Nebula Voltron
Is it?
How many comments would be considered not psycho and how do you know my amount is psycho ?
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@Nebula Voltron
That doesn't answer my question Sir?
What is your fundamental singular reference that you use to be able to know the difference between a psycho or now crazy amount of comments that follows I should get some fresh air ?
What is your frame of reference Sir ?
@Nebula Voltron
Now that makes for a better comment👌
See I taught you something 👍
You're welcome my guy ❤️
I'm a hard enduro rider bud. I ride three days a week right out my backyard , I maintain trail systems around here and cut new ones. I'm outside in the bush almost every day.
I appreciate your concern for my wellbeing and hope you have a great day👍🍺🍺
If the rules of evidence are applied to the four gospels, they are admissible in a court of law as eyewitness accounts of the events they describe. They also have more manuscript evidence to their veracity than any other ancient text we have today. The truth they lay out confronts us at the most basic level. It confronts our conscious and our heart. The standard of life is Jesus, how he lived, and why he died, and that he in fact rose from the dead. We only have this life that we are now in to make the most important decision we will ever make and that will determine where we will spend eternity.
Do we believe God and what he said about our situation, and accept the gift he gave to heal the wound that is in all of us. That festering wound is sin. That is what we have to decide.
when the man in the green says "you should give interest", he is pretty in-line with GOD and HIS Image!
He got me
We enter heaven not because we're a good person because of our religion but because of grace and glory redemption of Jesus Christ up the cross
Because it causes an emotional injury to admit we are evil.
Neither would one who is a true parent tell their children to be all the evil as they can be, and that they will forgive them, nor would one who is a true son/daughter be disobedient to a true parent.
God owes us NOTHING - God created You - You pray and he wil grant you health
I would like to debate a moral point argument to the questions or statements “God isn’t real”
And ask “why is Right Good, and Bad is Evil?”
Who gave us that type of morality”
Our Heavenly Father.
God is the only way to live happy more happy then money can buy
Let’s be honest about where cancer, mental health issues and other health issues comes from....pharmaceuticals doing “research” on us, big corporations messing with our food sources and government taking medical advice from a computer programmer.
When I was a kid we didn’t hear about kids dying of cancer. We saw a few kids with “behavioural” issues...autism was rare, as were mental health illnesses...these days it seems just about every other child is sick and babies are born with cancers....
Love your videos cliffe! i hope one day i can visit your church and attend a Sunday service;) stay safe and God bless
KJV Matthew 5:17-20
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
there's no such thing as good and evil; Only righteousness and wickedness.
Nice to see how he handles a hostile crowd.
6:10 - 6:24 😇😇😇😇😍😍😍😍 goosebumps
this convinces me that anyone can be a college student