People who had slaves in the 1700 and 1800’s and claimed they were Christian’s, probably was not Christians….same today…. Everyone who say they are Christians probably are not Christians
Stuart! I always like that your father spent time at the end to talk and explain to us the viewers. I would love to see you do the same! 😊it would help round up the video. And don't worry about the time, trust me, we like the videos long! We play it and do chores, listen along! Thank you for still uploading videos!
You the man cliff,been listening to your teachings on your channel for over 2 years,hands down you have enlighten me on many tooics,glory to the most high,the Lord has used you in a mighty way,please don't stop what your doing,keep the videos coming all year long,the content is wonderful brother,it's great we have followers of Christ defending the gospel, true warriors you guys are!
I just started watching Cliff, and what an amazing mind and vocabulary! I can only pray and hope he stays healthy and on the grind making more videos! I feel like I have almost watched them all from way back keep it going man! 😂😂🔥🙏🏼
@jasonnoble7302 ✡️Psalm 14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
@@briarpatchson3039 ⚛️the law of non contradiction : contradictory propositions cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time, e. g. the two propositions "p is the case" and "p is not the case" are mutually exclusive. Formally this is expressed as the tautology P1)God is normative good P2)God does not normative good things ( 1 Samuel 15:3 , Exodus 12:29 , Psalms 137:9 ) C) the Christian God is defined as having contradictory propositions that can not be true There is no reason to believe the Christian God exists
@@fidenful Atheists aren't even intelligent 😂😂 How many types of evolution do you know?😂 People are focused on the Neo Darwinian evolution, leaving out the others. Evolution has no effect on Christianity. And by the way, you should read more. It's a theory, not a fact! You should do better 😂
@@fidenful " Hope you don't pretend to have the school teach Creation instead of Evolution. One is fantasy and other is real fact." you have to establish an objective foundation for knowledge before you KNOW anything as objective FACT of reality, evolution fails intellectual scrutiny.
@@robmc120 evolution is taught in every single top university in the world. Whereas, creationism, isn't taught in ANY major university in the world. It's a well established scientific fact. How old do you think this planet is Rob?, and how did you determine that?
@@bonnie43ukmaybe semantics but a fact is a directly observed or verified piece of information, while a theory (say of evolution) is an explanation that encompasses and connects multiple facts and observations. The theory may change over time as better explanations arise...a theory is in fact, not a fact.
When these slave owners took their slaves to church, did the minister just preach, "Slaves, obey your masters" over and over again? You'd think the true gospel of Christ would slip in eventually.
@justingary5322 1. I dont have instagram, its a gateway to sin in my life and i hate sin. 2. This video is from 2023 not the 90s to 2000s 3. Copying and pasting this probably isnt how the Father wants to grow your instagram page. From one 23 year old to another. Patience, wait on the Lord to increase you and dont seek worldly means to do so. God provides.
@justingary5322 lol you clearly misread what i said. I said i dont use it because its a stumbling block to me, i never said it was a stumbling block for you. As for your response, Mene mene tekel parsin. I find it lacking and severely wanting. Not sure where you come from or go to thinking you know what i think, im glad the Holy one of Israel has revealed this to you. Until that actually happens lets speak peaceably
It all boils down to self. I want and I will decide what I think is right and what is wrong. Not a good idea for society or for you. People wan’t to do what they argue to be okay or their right. No God means no bible. No bible no guidelines.
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@jasonnoble7302 Best way to find out is to watch their videos. They have experts in every field that show how the earth took it's shape in such a short time.
I hope there will be a video where Cliffe talks to students about abortion and why it's wrong. and I also hope he comes to Oklahoma sometime! Though I am no longer a student, I'd love to see him here.
Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead
As a Christian believer I get the point about not being able to prove anything 100%.. only thing I would want to hear a response about is what about death? If I jump into a pool of lava wearing nothing but my underwear I’m 100% dead. Or get my head chopped off I’m 100% dead.
They are not schizophrenic. They have schizophrenia. I was told this by someone who has it. It doesn't define them. It is a health issue that they have.
difficult question, thanks for raising it, now watch me not answer the question. Cliffe is the master of assertions with no tangible evidence. A direct frontal attack on racism. Cliffe is a comedian and I watch his videos for a good laugh.
(Because of lies) atheism dies. John 8:44 👑 “For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
@@NewCreationInChrist896 I notice you didn't answer the specific question lisa. What does your inner moral compass think about God ordering the slaughter of children and babies? Is that something that Jesus would be morally ok with?
@@bonnie43ukto answer your question, according to the Bible sin entered the world by Satan temping eve and since then the wages of sin is death. So I would say according to the Bible all death from the beginning of time is from Satan and life comes from God.
@@rjvalentini if your great great great grandfather committed a crime, would you think it fair if all of his descendants were made to suffer for that sin?
I feel that i can make a decision or do things without a chemical. now you may say "you just used a chemical to make that statement" yes im not disagreeing with that. However i do not believe i go from ONLY chemical to chemical.
For centuries, the Bible has been seen as a book which was literally "the word of God", not to be questioned. I watch a lot of these video's and I often hear Cliffe tell is to "don't take my word for it, read the Gospels for yourself, openly and honestly, in context" etc. While I truly believe Cliffe is convinced those Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are verbatim accounts of what they witnessed, for me, they dont ring true .. to deny such a thing a few hundred years ago would be considered heresy and I may well be put to death for such a denial, but due to scientific discoveries in recent years, it's become ok to question the Bible openly and honestly without fear of torture and death. I'm sure if God created us with a thinking mind, he'd want us to use it to the best of our ability without the sword of Damocles hovering over our heads worrying about offending God. If God *did* create us, he also created us with the ability to doubt and to question things. It's good that Cliffe allows us to have these open discussions on his channel 🙂
Absolutely Tom. One of the biggest questions to be asked about the Bible is who exactly selected and put together all of the different writings that make it up and by what authority did they have??? I mean, did they speak to God directly and God instructed them to make this thing called a Bible and he told them which writings he wanted in it or did they just use their own minds to decide to make such a book and select certain writings to go in it?? Apparently, the Book of Revelation was nearly rejected, so how was it decided it should be included? Did this Bible committee pray about it and God gave them the answer "yes, include this book" or did they just use their own brains?? it's not like the Bible fell out of the sky followed by a booming voice saying "THIS IS MY WORD, PLEASE READ IT". The Bible is a collection of 66 different pieces of different writings that weren't originally together and it's only when some group decided to select some of those writings and put them together into one book that we got what we know today as 'The Bible'. But if there really is a God who inspired these writings in some way, how can we know for sure that this is how God would have wanted them all to be put together?? How can we know whether or not God ever wanted a Bible at all? Whether the writings themselves were divinely inspired or not is one question but there is no doubt that the Bible in the form that we have it is definitely MAN-MADE. God didn't give us the Bible in the form that it is today, MEN put it together in that way and then later on, other men translated it into various world languages including English (KJV) and then as if that wasn't bad enough, there is no unanimity regarding the interpretation of what it says and when you challenge most Christians over interpretation their standard response will be "hey, you need to study it". Of course, as you will probably guess Tom, this "you need to study it" is their polite way of saying they won't accept that anyone has studied it unless they agree with THEIR particular denominational interpretation. It doesn't seem to occur to them that maybe others HAVE studied it and they simply don't agree with their interpretation but I can understand why they won't want to look at that because that would then point to a problem with the Bible ITSELF and as believers, they cannot accept that there is a problem with the supposed 'infallible word of God' so as far as THEY are concerned, the problem must be other people who are reading it and getting it wrong if they have a different understanding of what it says.
@@JohnCashin Spot on John. People could ( and do) study the Bible for years and years, and still come to completely different views about it. You only need to look at the number of Christian denominations to see just how diverse people's views are. This idea of Hell is very much highly subjective depending on how you interpret various passages. There is a world of difference between the concept of Hell being a vague 'separation from God' and this idea of a place of eternal damnation. I'm completely fine with the idea of not existing after death, as I've said lots of times, I will be in exactly the same position I was in before my parents had sex that created me.. eg: I was nothing, and it didn't bother me one iota. Whereas, I would certainly not be happy with the idea of being sent to a place of eternal suffering, the thought of a punishment that went on ad infinitum for billions upon billions of years is nonsensical in the extreme in my humble view. What crimes would someone have to commit to be sentenced to eternal damnation. It's absurd.
Love them, forgive them, but don’t expose yourself to trust their judgment. Have confidence in what is right, the objective connection to truth you can find and where you put your focus can give you strength no matter the situation. If you understand Christ then Christ is that focus, He overcame all abuse, betrayal, injustice, and suffering,
Jesus said he came to separate mother from son, brother from sister etc. If they are not following Christ, in the sense that they are being abusive, hateful, unloving, then you have every right to leave them behind. You still honor your father and mother and forgive them, but when you forgive someone it doesn’t mean you must tolerate further abuses or subject yourself to them.
“I’m geology 101 so I know my stuff”! Yea but you are 20-21, how much life experience do you have to tell a 70 year old what is wise, true and right. What you believe now may not stand the test of time and life experience! It’s what a 21 year learned after he knows it all, that may count.
Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead
The Bible speaks to me as a written record of the hopes and beliefs of the Hebrew tribes living on the Sinai Peninsula. It is useful to Hebrew historians and followers but not a useful source of guidance in a democracy founded on a man made Constitution. There is too much barbarism and stupidity for an intelligent, civilized person like me to take it as a guide.
I concur James, although I'd never claim to be overtly intelligent, heh, i have a standard high school intelligence and was educated in a Christian based school in the UK, even as a teenager, i had massive doubts as to what I was being taught as fact in religious studies class. How does one prove ANY of the supernatural occurrences as described in the Bible? .. we do however know for a fact that people embellish and invent stories that seem (and are) unbelievable.
"There is too much barbarism and stupidity for an intelligent, civilized person like me." If your non-Christian wv is true, where do you get "barbarism/stupidity" as wrong/bad & "intelligence/civility" good? You have no objective foundation for your moral claims nor your wv claims as fact without resorting to logical fallacy. I pray the only triune God of the: 1)supernaturally prophetic fulfilled in reality today (Romans 1:26-32/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18) 2)historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) 3)transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible reveals Himself to you in Spirit & objective truth (John 16:13). May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories.
So how does cliff or anyone else tackle the idea of being able to quantify morality? I’m not sure what it’s called but like empirically looking at saving x people over this one person. But this one person is the president or whatever, etc. Etc.
*What Jesus and His Father have spoken will never change, their promises are still good and our prayers are still answered! Hallelujah!!! But as impossible as this sounds, like so many of the true stories in scripture, our bibles have all been supernaturally changed by Satan in the last several years, right in our homes, in the fulfillment of prophecy. It's being done to prepare for the reign of the antichrist. All languages and all translations have been changed along with concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, all of the ancient Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic manuscripts. Even the Dead Sea Scrolls have been changed!* *I'm 70, was saved when I was 10, and have read only the exact same copy of the King James bible my church gave me in 1961. (This does not mean I was a King James onlyist, but I'm glad I never read other ones or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I had memorized many scriptures from it through the years, then in 2014 I started seeing changes in it that I couldn't explain. I have an exceptional memory and can draw a detailed picture of my baby stroller. I had never owned a computer or heard of the Mandela Effect back then. But after being given my first computer in 2016, I finally found out why I had been noticing all of the oddities that I couldn't explain. Then I started diligently studying what should actually be called the Daniel 7:25 effect. That's where God said He would give the antichrist the power to do this. (Change times and laws) We're seeing many end times prophecies being fulfilled SUPERNATURALLY! This is some of the "lying signs and wonders" God told us He would give the AC power to perform which would even deceive His very elect, if it were possible in 2nd Thessalonians chapter two!* *God said in the end of days, (NOW!) that He would send us a famine for hearing His words in Amos **8:11** and that He would give the antichrist the ability to do this in Daniel 7:25. In Daniel 12:4 & 12:9 He told him to seal his book until the end days. He told John **_not_** to seal his book because the end time is at hand in Revelation 22:10. One of the Greek definitions of seal in Strongs concordance is “to protect from Satan”. He also told us to “write His words in our hearts”, which meant memorize, if not word for word at least the essence of what was written, because He knew this was going to happen.* *God commanded us to "prove all things", and people **_better_** obey Him, especially on this subject. I urge you to research this. There are many brothers and sisters making videos about the changes with more proof of what was originally written and I have lots more about this in my playlist 👉 which can be found by typing in (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE)* 👈 *I've continued to study scripture by learning what Satan has been changing. Soon Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled too, and the only way it can happen is by not being able to see these videos that document what used to be written in our bibles.* *_May God bless all who read this with eyes to see this incredible faith strengthener, and how close we are to our Saviour's return!!!!_* *P.S. Everyone is going to learn about this one way or the other. I'm just trying to save people from hearing Jesus explain it to them at the Gate.* 🙏✝️💪
some animals also have one mate for life [ wolves ,beavers ,mice etc ], swans have been known to commit suicide if the partner dies - humans are a long way from this - lets face it we do need Jesus's teaching as we are all rotters.
If you were a fish surely you would complain of the perils of living in the sea. Men with great nets catch you and eat you. Other fish larger than you eat you too. Or if you were a seal would you dream of being a black and white Orca whale instead of being hunted by them. There are animals being hunted by wolves who hunt in packs to feed their hungry families. The majestic lions tear other lesser animals to pieces. This is not evil. It’s survival. God could have just as easily made us into dogs or cats or even a great big grizzly bear. But He made us into what we are. Let us be thankful for that.
God speaks to any generation that chooses to believe in him. If they do not believe in him, the god simply goes away. God is a concept in people's minds. BELIEVE in him - he becomes real to you, don't believe in him and he goes away.
@@robertmitchell-tv5yf There are similarities. He knows when you been good or bad and as long as kids believe in him, he has a way of convincing them to be good. hehe. Once the charade is over, he no longer is of concern. It is the same with gods. I know this from personal experience. I used to believe in the God of the bible, and he seemed real because I thought of him everyday. He was important. When I stopped believing in him, he went away quietly and never returned. He no longer is important to me, just like Santa. He plays no role in my life and has no power over me. Funny what believing things can do to a person's mind.
If God is all good and all powerful, why is there suffering? We can only speculate. Here is a possible explanation. As we know that God knows all things we also know that God knew before creating mankind that there would be suffering in this world. But why doesn’t He prevent it? We know that God has created us for everlasting life. But why didn’t God prevent Satan the tempter from being amongst us. Let’s think about it. We can rightly assume that the remaining angels in heaven have obtained a greater character by proving to themselves that they are indeed faithful to God by resisting Lucifer’s temptation to rebel against God. And let us also consider the following. If a top angel in heaven namely Lucifer, with greater insights into the constituency God than us, could actually tempt himself, then how would we ultimately not also tempt ourselves and therefore not need a tempter to achieve this. On this basis we can say that even without Satan tempting us we would have eventually tempted ourselves. Also as we on earth try to persuade others to forsake their rebellion to God, it seems reasonable to assume that the holy angels also tried to persuade the rebellious angels to cease from their rebellion to God, albeit, it was to no avail. But maybe the sin arising from self temptation is so overpowering, so intoxicating, it cannot be forsaken. Maybe those fallen angels became so hardened in their sin, it was impossible to forsake it. And maybe if man tempted himself without an outside agency tempting him, the whole human race might have needed to be destroyed, as it was the with the great flood. And if this was the case then God would not have created the human race. And neither would God have created the angels if He knew He would need to destroy them all. Also we assume that because the remaining angels in heaven have passed the test, they have now been sealed by God making sin an impossibility. And likewise we recognise that upon obtaining the crown of everlasting life we too will never sin again. But in order to obtain this guarantee from God whereby we eventually get sealed by God making sin an impossibility, we must first be tested and pass the test. But as we would not be able to pass the test if we tempted ourselves, God therefore allowed us to be tempted by Satan, knowing that even though we would succumb to the temptations, it would ultimately be possible to repent, via the assistance of Jesus Christ, and be reconciled to God. Man is the greatest of all God’s creatures here on earth. He gave us an intelligence that sets us apart from the animals who are destined to have no knowledge of God. God’s choice was to make us like the animals or perhaps as innocent apes in the trees thereby sparing the earth from the suffering caused by the sins of man. But in the grand scheme of things God deems it worthwhile to create mankind knowing it will result in an imperfect world of suffering. By man’s reckoning it’s not worth it. What does God achieve. A messed up world. And only few will obtain everlasting life, though it’s available to all. Therefore why does God do it? And also to achieve this small result God Himself has to become a sacrificed man on a cross at Calvary. We therefore must assume that though the result seems small in our eyes, we must be underestimating the value of becoming the new creatures we are yet to be, who are clothed in eternal life. It must be much greater than we can possibly imagine. It’s really all about love. God gets nothing more than the joy of giving us what we are yet to receive.
Abuse suggests purpose. If there is no real purpose, then there can be no abuse. When atheists speak of innocence and guilt, and things like honor of abuse, they are being arbitrary. Fact is, they recognize in their hearts that moral truth exists, they just don't know why they believe this. But they believe it because God made them for a purpose and objective moral values and duties do exist. Their own conscience betrays them! (Romans 2:14-15)
Here’s your problem now. By definition the Christian Gods desires are arbitrary “ his will be done” is an arbitrary position So, you don’t have a problem with arbitrary positions when it comes to your blind faith but you do have a problem with arbitrary positions of a moral agent Hypocrite much This is awesome 🤠 So fun ❤️❤️❤️
@@jasonnoble7302You only expose you are the bigger hypocrite. You didn’t create anything or show evidence you are reliable, you didn’t create purpose or control physical laws so there is far less reason to follow your will. Your future is a meaningless death by your own blind faith so you have nothing to offer anyone except the same meaningless death. God can connect people to a meaningful future, you cannot, you have no power or thought to do so at all. Here you are claiming others should trust and do your will when you have nothing to offer if your will be done, no evidence your will is reliable.
@@jasonnoble7302 It’s like Cliff says in this video that if your birth is an accident and your death is an accident then everything in between is an accident. By your blind faith in accidents nobody need trust your accidental indignation.
@@boltrooktwo You - If your birth is an accident and your death is an accident; then, everything in between is an accident. Me - What.? That is the dumbest thing I've ever read, at one person's autistic attempt, to mimic an argument. Everyone, above the age of eight, knows how births occur and that death occurs due by various reasons. Either say what you mean and say it in a way that's not absolutely stupid, or, shut up and stop embarrassing yourself by proving to everyone just how asinine you are.
@@boltrooktwo Was your birth pre ordained by God then boltrook, or was it just happenstance? The point is, once we're born, it's up to us to try and make sense of what we see around us, and, due to so many different variables coming into play, location, faith, knowledge, upbringing, etc, we are all incredibly diverse in how we view things. Had you or I had been born in a highly Islamic country, we would have completely different thoughts about life and God.
Doesn't it say in Genesis that we turned away from God and pain and suffering came into the world as a result? How can you not know.. We are in a fallen world and Satan has dominion over this world.. for now! Until God restores everything back to how it was meant to be when He created everything perfectly.
@@raulcastro925 that is an answer. Lots of animals do, that is why there is Alphas in the animal kingdom. Why there is mating dances in many different species of animals. You are purposely being obtuse.
The name of Christian was first called in antioch. That was Paul did not want to mention the name of the Messiah but used Christ, the Greek hero's name, instead of the name of the Messiah. Paul's said, I planted, and apollos watered, that is the Christian religion. The Messiah said that every tree that is not planted by the father will be cut down. So Paul planted Christian will be cut down. Christian religion does not want to keep the Lord's Sabbath, but want to keep the Pope's Sunday. So it will be cleansed by the fire of the Lord. If you want to be saved, keep the Sabbath and abandon Paul's Christianity. We have only a short time left.
Here is an important answer that Cliffe is missing. The word for "eternal" hell is aion and can just mean age. In Matthew 24 the disciples ask Jesus what will be the signs of the end of this world. World is aion here. So you gotta keep in mind that certain people had motives geared towards keeping people afraid of burning forever and making you pay $ for your own salvation. Luke 16 mentions a gulf. There is a good side and a bad side. Think to yourself. How could we enjoy heaven if all of the goody goodies are on one side and right next store there's a boiling pit of lava where people are not just burning for billions of years, but trillions upon trillions of years. How could a loving God allow that? And how could we enjoy heaven if one of our loved ones didn't make it? No, after the 1000 years they are blotted out. It's as if they never existed. Gone from our memories and gone from our lives for good. They burn up like fat to a spiddle and the smoke of their ashes go up forever and ever. Revelation 20:14 “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”God is a consuming fire and I'm not saying He is that lake of fire, but he indeed can destroy the soul. Taking the mistranslation out of hell part 1 ua-cam.com/video/_7o6UD4z4Xc/v-deo.html Taking the mistranslation out of hell part 2 ua-cam.com/video/S22ui_KZBAk/v-deo.html Shepherds Chapel God the consuming fire and hells fire ua-cam.com/video/h25qRU9W2hg/v-deo.html
PLEASE! READ THIS: 👉The Bible does speak about the Creation process: it was by the Word of God, "He commanded and everything came into being" Psalm 33:9. Indeed the Bible does not present physical formulas and chemical reactions, but reveals the time (six days) and the how (by his word). I have to disagree with Pr. Cliff in this point, that it's okay to believe that evolution could have been the process God used to create everything. It definitely wasn't. Evolution is extremely cruel and contrary to the Word of God as it involves death as an active agent in the process, the death of the least adapted to conditions, and life for the strongest or best adapted. But according to the Bible, death is the wages of sin (Romans 6:23). Jesus came to die to free us from death, so would God use death in His creation process and then send His Son to free us from something He Himself established? Would God say: "If you eat of the forbidden fruit you will die", when death was already present in human existence? It would be somewhat ironic and sadistic. And even if we say that Adam and Eve were the first complete human beings in the process of evolution (which is already inconsistent because we were created in the image and likeness of God and an underdeveloped human being, like a neanderthal, does not represent the perfect image of God), Genesis 1 and 2 say that He created and saw that it was "GOOD", it does not say that He created something incomplete, that is, not good, and that "this" He created needed to be transmuted until it became good. The most serious of all this would be that, if we emerged from an evolution, there was also no sin in biblical terms, since sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4). Did the first primordial amoeba sin to have to die for a more developed amoeba to survive? Without sin there was no fall of humanity, the fall of humanity was what caused death. If there was no fall of humanity, Jesus would not have needed to rescue us from the consequences of sin. Soon the death of Jesus would have no value or meaning. It is inconsistent to be a Christian and believe in evolution.
Exactly how is it morally good to own the children of your slaves Or as the apologists like to say indentured servitude If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT Is it morally good to take possession of a child just because your female slave gave birth ? Does that child belong to the slave owner or the mother ? According to the bible a slave owner owns the child without any regard to the desire of the mother or the child No, this is not indentured servitude It’s slavery at its worst
exactly Jason, how easy would it have been for Jesus to explicitly condemn the owning of fellow human beings as your own property and to beat them and torture them? I've yet to hear a truly credible answer.
@@bonnie43uk Jesus taught us to love your neighbor, it is one of the fundamental teachings of the Bible. However by the time the Bible began to be written, humans had already established social structures and economic systems that conflicted with godly principles. While some of the practices involved were condemned in his written Law, God chose to tolerate others, such as slavery. “God’s Law regulated slavery so that, if practiced, slaves would be treated in a humane and loving manner.” Later, in the days of Jesus and his apostles, slavery was an entrenched practice in the Roman Empire. As Christianity spread, it was inevitable that individuals who were slaves and others who were slave owners would come in contact with the good news and become Christians. Neither Jesus Christ himself nor his apostles preached a gospel of social liberation, as if trying to reform the existing system. Rather, both slaves and slave owners were admonished to love one another as spiritual brothers.-Colossians 4:1; 1 Timothy 6:2. As is the case with every Bible-related question, the issue of slavery must be considered in context. A careful examination of the Scriptures reveals that God deplores the mistreatment of humans. Your intellectual dishonesty always gets the better of you.
I can’t wrap my head around why morality has to come from God. We are emotional beings, who benefit from order over chaos. Isn’t it a valid argument to say it benefit all humans, not to murder and steal, simply because we are better of coexisting.
If there is no God, there cannot be absolute morality, only subjective opinions. The issue is this: who defines what is beneficial? People who steal believe they do benefit from stealing, so in their view it is not wrong. We need to have a Mind that is beyond the human mind who is the standard of goodness and righteousness. Without that we are just going with what most people agree upon, and agreement does not necessarily mean it is truth. Truth is not subject to opinion or agreement. Hope this helps.
Thanks. It is still a complicated matter to me, but it helps for sure. I guess I’m not convinced there has to be true morality. The argument that there is no God and we create our own morality within a society is still a valid argument even though it still doesn’t work out every time. I’ll keep listening to him with an open mind.
@@yawhboateng youtube deleted my comment, don't know why. There are many things in the Bible that are error in God's character and nature as God is far more loving than how He is portrayed. I just wanted to say that the truth about God can be found at the Divine Truth channel, which is often quite difficult to hear because it confronts a lot of things in our lives but it is very much worthwhile, to listen and implement. I wish you all the best, Kristijan
Does the Bible Speak to This Generation? Yes it does. However, these kids need to put down their iphones and maybe clean out all of that apple jelly out of their ears, get real with themselves and listen to the Word.
@justingary5322 You mean have someone teach them the modern secular based morality apologetics people like cliffe use to justify their religious immoral worldview Yeah, some people fall for that modern apologetics stuff. But If you just read the bible and take it in the original context I find it hard to believe normal people would accept it as true or morally good
BTW, you guys are really awesome in that you do a good job defending your beliefs and also making people THINK. I admire this, but the thing is you cannot prove a god exists in the first place. Your opinions and philosophy is not better than anybody else's. Philosophy does not prove anything, it gives you some ways of thinking about things but offers no ultimate answers. It tackles issues that are not proven, so the God question is a perfect example of philosophy/theology.
Philosophy is of the mind. WE ALL HAVE TO USE IT. Without God, what can the atheist/materialist offer as an explanation? No freewill? No objective morality? No innate value or purpose. Everyone just create their own meaning morality and values?
@@JPC75-q4g OK, so I am an Atheist, what is a question you want me to answer? I will answer for myself only as Atheists have no dogma in particular, they must follow, I think for myself and will tell you what I think.
@@JPC75-q4g So what? That is not an argument for anything. All that shows is that certain people are so arrogant and self important that they cannot possibly entertain the idea that their life might be meaningless.
When i have to get food Chemicals are in motion. When i type this Message Chemicals are in motion. Is everything i do Chemical? Explain WHY I should believe Science or Evolution gave me (Non-Chemical) Choices?
Everything we do chemical? Maybe. But that doesn't mean ... I mean feelings, emotions, even consciousness might be the emerging properties of those complex chemical reactions. But then again, God could make all those chemicals with the order of nature he designed and created ... That would work that way. Couldn't he? In other words, whatever happens in nature with and by the order of nature he designed and created would work in any which way or any what ways.. With God, anything is possible, nothing is impossible. In other other words, one can't say it's impossible anything in nature by nature when you believe he designed and created this nature.
@@jasonnoble7302 That might be debatable. I was talking of if it's impossible for him to do or not. I wasn't talking about his will. I didn't say he did or didn't. Now, he himself may be always good. But that may not necessarily mean whether he let free will be free or not, even when free will do bad things. Because then it's not gonna be free or free choice to do bad things. And he doesn't exactly let it go completely freely either, though. He judges and ultimately punishes ultimately, final judgement, hell and heaven. So how do we ... how does he define "bad things" in this world. I don't know. I don't know his will. You don't know. Nobody knows. But it may be possible.
@@tTtt-ho3tq Ok, well you explain it to me Is it always normatively not good to allow the rape and torture of children ? If you could stop a child from being raped and tortured and you free will decided not to would that be a morally normative good action or a morally normative not good action ?
@@jasonnoble7302 "Normative"? Normative to us, by us amangst us humans? We die in this world but we really don't, do we? There're hell and heaven with or by God. So for or with God, nobody really dies, per se. Just change where you are, maybe? And God gave us life so he can take it away as many Christians say. Rape? Moses told his people to save virgins for themselves. Sex slaves? Kill all Canaanites, including anything that breathe. Is it 'normative'? I don't know. There're many things I don't know. There're many things that don't add up. I don't know. I'm only a human. Forgive me.
I'm not sure if Cliffe fully understands how evolution works, he says he can fully accept it as a process ... that's good. But then he says, "I can't accept it as an origin", Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, evolution explains how life forms adapt to their surroundings. The actual origin of life from a naturalistic point of view is something that is currently beyond the scope of science.. it's work in progress so to speak.
Evolution is a doomed theory that takes faith to believe in, it is a religious principle from people who evangelize their faith in nature, their nature centered religion. Nobody sees the full process but they claim some power in nature that makes evolution the way it is with their behavioral expressed faith and religious structure.
@@bonnie43uk Evolution is a doomed theory that takes faith to believe in, it is a religious principle from people who evangelize their faith in nature, their nature centered religion. Nobody sees the full process but they claim some power in nature that makes evolution the way it is with their behavioral expressed faith and religious structure.
To be SAVED according to our apostle Paul, you must BELIEVE/ TRUST that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins,was buried,and rose again on the third day,and He Shed His Blood as payment for all of your sins forever,( you personally).Romans 3:25” Faith in His Blood”.
"I'm in Geology 101, so I know my stuff" idk why that has me laughing 😅
Isn't having a good grasp of geology helpful in understanding how long our planet has been around?
He’s most certainly a seasoned geologist after taking Geology 101.
Jokes aside, I bet that dude grew up to be a stand up cat.
People who had slaves in the 1700 and 1800’s and claimed they were Christian’s, probably was not Christians….same today…. Everyone who say they are Christians probably are not Christians
@@bonnie43ukoh boy
I stopped the video just to comment this. 😆
Cliff staying strong after all these years 💪🏼
The Lord is faithful! 🙌🏽
Cliffe
Best content on UA-cam! Thank you Lord for Cliff! 😇🙏
Cliffe
I love seeing Pastor Cliffe smiling while listening to his son 😊 this is discipleship❤ parents pointing their children to JESUS🙌
God bless you Cliff and all the hearer who have heard the word of God…praise be God forever! Blessed be His name forever.
Stuart!
I always like that your father spent time at the end to talk and explain to us the viewers. I would love to see you do the same! 😊it would help round up the video. And don't worry about the time, trust me, we like the videos long! We play it and do chores, listen along! Thank you for still uploading videos!
I wish I could meet you one day. So inspiring and helps me strengthen my own faith every time i listen to these
I've met him, his wife and Stuart and his wife. Nice People.
Cliffe I have watched almost all of your videos, I've learned so much. Thank you
I'm just beginning to watch his videos
You the man cliff,been listening to your teachings on your channel for over 2 years,hands down you have enlighten me on many tooics,glory to the most high,the Lord has used you in a mighty way,please don't stop what your doing,keep the videos coming all year long,the content is wonderful brother,it's great we have followers of Christ defending the gospel, true warriors you guys are!
Oh my I’ve been watching your videos in social media and I just realized your in my state I can’t wait to stop by and listen to you live
PREACH AND TEACH BROTHER CLIFFE IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME 🙏
Cliff always blessed by your ministry. God bless you and bring increase to your ministry. The devil worries at your presence
Whenever I come to NY, I hope to visit your church
Is he a pastor, a professor or what? I met Cliff on tik tok, but i'm brazilian and don't speak english well yet, so i'm kinda confuse 🤠
@@kklorena he is a pastor and an apologist, he helps to bring the gospel to university students in the USA
@@emmanuelbentum-siripi3479 Connecticut
I have been binge watching these videos, i love it.
I just started watching Cliff, and what an amazing mind and vocabulary! I can only pray and hope he stays healthy and on the grind making more videos! I feel like I have almost watched them all from way back keep it going man! 😂😂🔥🙏🏼
God bless guys 🙌🦶👏✨️💛💯
Shalom!
Suffering produces gifts endurance, and patience
11:10 “I know my stuff, I’m in geology 101.” That got me a giggle.
Please don’t ever stop making these videos
Without lies atheism dies
Without lies Christian have no apologetics
@jasonnoble7302
✡️Psalm 14
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
@@jasonnoble7302someone’s feelings were hurt
@@stiffsock201
Feelings are hurt because ?
@@briarpatchson3039
⚛️the law of non contradiction :
contradictory propositions cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time, e. g. the two propositions "p is the case" and "p is not the case" are mutually exclusive. Formally this is expressed as the tautology
P1)God is normative good
P2)God does not normative good things ( 1 Samuel 15:3 , Exodus 12:29 , Psalms 137:9 )
C) the Christian God is defined as having contradictory propositions that can not be true
There is no reason to believe the Christian God exists
I could listen to this for HOURS ❤ Wish you could come to my campus! Love from CA
God bless you🙏🏼
Awesome cliffe
Brother cliff Hopefully there’s a chance to see you in Mississauga GOD BLESS
Cliffe nails it at 26:23 ... it pays to be sceptical when the claims are so unbelievable.
I'm on the school board and this man's wisdom is needed. I'd hope to talk to him one day
@@fidenful As Cliffe stated in this vid' the two are not incompatible. Evolution as origin of life is a fantasy to the enth degree.
@@fidenful Atheists aren't even intelligent 😂😂 How many types of evolution do you know?😂 People are focused on the Neo Darwinian evolution, leaving out the others. Evolution has no effect on Christianity. And by the way, you should read more. It's a theory, not a fact! You should do better 😂
@@fidenful " Hope you don't pretend to have the school teach Creation instead of Evolution.
One is fantasy and other is real fact."
you have to establish an objective foundation for knowledge before you KNOW anything as objective FACT of reality, evolution fails intellectual scrutiny.
@@robmc120 evolution is taught in every single top university in the world. Whereas, creationism, isn't taught in ANY major university in the world. It's a well established scientific fact. How old do you think this planet is Rob?, and how did you determine that?
@@bonnie43ukmaybe semantics but a fact is a directly observed or verified piece of information, while a theory (say of evolution) is an explanation that encompasses and connects multiple facts and observations. The theory may change over time as better explanations arise...a theory is in fact, not a fact.
I could listen to you all day
Cliffe is on it today!
Watching you channel it help me broaden my mind about God. Thanks
Cliffe and Stuart rock!
When these slave owners took their slaves to church, did the minister just preach, "Slaves, obey your masters" over and over again? You'd think the true gospel of Christ would slip in eventually.
The last guy just gave credibility to the gospels❤
I would hope I wouldn't have the ignorance to stand in front of a speaker on my mobile phone.
he says hes in geology 101, he then says he knows his stuff, oh boy what a guy
@justingary5322 1. I dont have instagram, its a gateway to sin in my life and i hate sin.
2. This video is from 2023 not the 90s to 2000s
3. Copying and pasting this probably isnt how the Father wants to grow your instagram page.
From one 23 year old to another. Patience, wait on the Lord to increase you and dont seek worldly means to do so. God provides.
@justingary5322 lol you clearly misread what i said. I said i dont use it because its a stumbling block to me, i never said it was a stumbling block for you. As for your response, Mene mene tekel parsin. I find it lacking and severely wanting. Not sure where you come from or go to thinking you know what i think, im glad the Holy one of Israel has revealed this to you. Until that actually happens lets speak peaceably
The Bible most certainly speaks to this generation! It's changed my life so much over the past 6 months! PRAISE JESUS!
Why ?
Have you read the bible ?
@@jasonnoble7302Simple!!!
Highest selling Book of ALL-TIME!!!
@@briarpatchson3039 not just highest selling, its the most read.
@@jasonnoble7302 why do you hang out with your friends and spend time with them?
Hallelujah 🙌🕊✝️🕊
The crowds seem smaller than past videos.
It all boils down to self. I want and I will decide what I think is right and what is wrong. Not a good idea for society or for you. People wan’t to do what they argue to be okay or their right. No God means no bible. No bible no guidelines.
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That is wonderful that Pastor Cliffe knows about those
philosophical books so that he knows whence questions come.
Also it is good that Pastor Stuart K knows those historical books ! ! !
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This is the university of South Carolina. I recognize the street. Greene street in front of fountain
The channel Is Genesis History does a great job showing scientific evidence for creation and a young earth creation, at that.
Really
How does it do that ?
@jasonnoble7302 Best way to find out is to watch their videos. They have experts in every field that show how the earth took it's shape in such a short time.
It’s pretty cool, how cliff and his son both preach together and once Cliff is done, he says what does he think and then his son Tags in 😎😎
Unsure if the guy at 11:11 is saying it ironically but being a student of a 101 class is literally the sign that you know nothing.
Hes being sarcastic 😂
I hope there will be a video where Cliffe talks to students about abortion and why it's wrong. and I also hope he comes to Oklahoma sometime! Though I am no longer a student, I'd love to see him here.
Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead
"I'm in geology 101 so I know my stuff" BRUHHH LOLOLOLOL
As a Christian believer I get the point about not being able to prove anything 100%.. only thing I would want to hear a response about is what about death? If I jump into a pool of lava wearing nothing but my underwear I’m 100% dead. Or get my head chopped off I’m 100% dead.
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I recognize that campus :)
The quality of the videos has drastically improved over the years!
Yes, the 3D is incredible, it's as if you are actually there !
Thanks for coming to USC!! We really enjoyed listening!
They are not schizophrenic. They have schizophrenia.
I was told this by someone who has it. It doesn't define them. It is a health issue that they have.
Romans 10:9-10💝🙏
Trust Jesus believe in Him than turn from sin by honoring God in gratitude for your salvation.
There is suffering because the world is in a fallen state.
difficult question, thanks for raising it, now watch me not answer the question. Cliffe is the master of assertions with no tangible evidence. A direct frontal attack on racism. Cliffe is a comedian and I watch his videos for a good laugh.
Is there a website that I can send biblical questions to Protestant pastors???? I need urgent help!!!! with serious questions
Do people not understand that a 101 class is an introduction class? Lol
I want to meet mr cliffe
Im in worldology 101. I know my stuff.
"I am in geology 101 so I know my stuff" 😏
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Hes being sarcastic 😂
(Because of lies) atheism dies.
John 8:44 👑
“For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
what is the kill rate in the Bible between God and Satan?
@@bonnie43uk
He’s God, He can give life and take away life it’s His creation not ours.
@@NewCreationInChrist896 I notice you didn't answer the specific question lisa. What does your inner moral compass think about God ordering the slaughter of children and babies? Is that something that Jesus would be morally ok with?
@@bonnie43ukto answer your question, according to the Bible sin entered the world by Satan temping eve and since then the wages of sin is death. So I would say according to the Bible all death from the beginning of time is from Satan and life comes from God.
@@rjvalentini if your great great great grandfather committed a crime, would you think it fair if all of his descendants were made to suffer for that sin?
I feel that i can make a decision or do things without a chemical. now you may say "you just used a chemical to make that statement" yes im not disagreeing with that. However i do not believe i go from ONLY chemical to chemical.
wheres the second part of the video
12:50 There once was a family of mice...
For centuries, the Bible has been seen as a book which was literally "the word of God", not to be questioned. I watch a lot of these video's and I often hear Cliffe tell is to "don't take my word for it, read the Gospels for yourself, openly and honestly, in context" etc. While I truly believe Cliffe is convinced those Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are verbatim accounts of what they witnessed, for me, they dont ring true .. to deny such a thing a few hundred years ago would be considered heresy and I may well be put to death for such a denial, but due to scientific discoveries in recent years, it's become ok to question the Bible openly and honestly without fear of torture and death.
I'm sure if God created us with a thinking mind, he'd want us to use it to the best of our ability without the sword of Damocles hovering over our heads worrying about offending God. If God *did* create us, he also created us with the ability to doubt and to question things. It's good that Cliffe allows us to have these open discussions on his channel 🙂
Absolutely Tom. One of the biggest questions to be asked about the Bible is who exactly selected and put together all of the different writings that make it up and by what authority did they have??? I mean, did they speak to God directly and God instructed them to make this thing called a Bible and he told them which writings he wanted in it or did they just use their own minds to decide to make such a book and select certain writings to go in it?? Apparently, the Book of Revelation was nearly rejected, so how was it decided it should be included? Did this Bible committee pray about it and God gave them the answer "yes, include this book" or did they just use their own brains??
it's not like the Bible fell out of the sky followed by a booming voice saying "THIS IS MY WORD, PLEASE READ IT". The Bible is a collection of 66 different pieces of different writings that weren't originally together and it's only when some group decided to select some of those writings and put them together into one book that we got what we know today as 'The Bible'.
But if there really is a God who inspired these writings in some way, how can we know for sure that this is how God would have wanted them all to be put together?? How can we know whether or not God ever wanted a Bible at all?
Whether the writings themselves were divinely inspired or not is one question but there is no doubt that the Bible in the form that we have it is definitely MAN-MADE. God didn't give us the Bible in the form that it is today, MEN put it together in that way and then later on, other men translated it into various world languages including English (KJV) and then as if that wasn't bad enough, there is no unanimity regarding the interpretation of what it says and when you challenge most Christians over interpretation their standard response will be "hey, you need to study it".
Of course, as you will probably guess Tom, this "you need to study it" is their polite way of saying they won't accept that anyone has studied it unless they agree with THEIR particular denominational interpretation. It doesn't seem to occur to them that maybe others HAVE studied it and they simply don't agree with their interpretation but I can understand why they won't want to look at that because that would then point to a problem with the Bible ITSELF and as believers, they cannot accept that there is a problem with the supposed 'infallible word of God' so as far as THEY are concerned, the problem must be other people who are reading it and getting it wrong if they have a different understanding of what it says.
@@JohnCashin Spot on John. People could ( and do) study the Bible for years and years, and still come to completely different views about it. You only need to look at the number of Christian denominations to see just how diverse people's views are. This idea of Hell is very much highly subjective depending on how you interpret various passages. There is a world of difference between the concept of Hell being a vague 'separation from God' and this idea of a place of eternal damnation. I'm completely fine with the idea of not existing after death, as I've said lots of times, I will be in exactly the same position I was in before my parents had sex that created me.. eg: I was nothing, and it didn't bother me one iota. Whereas, I would certainly not be happy with the idea of being sent to a place of eternal suffering, the thought of a punishment that went on ad infinitum for billions upon billions of years is nonsensical in the extreme in my humble view. What crimes would someone have to commit to be sentenced to eternal damnation. It's absurd.
Does God sometimes have people leave a toxic family or do we have to stay around them? That's something I'd like to know
you need to pray for their salvation no matter the place
Love them, forgive them, but don’t expose yourself to trust their judgment. Have confidence in what is right, the objective connection to truth you can find and where you put your focus can give you strength no matter the situation. If you understand Christ then Christ is that focus, He overcame all abuse, betrayal, injustice, and suffering,
Jesus said he came to separate mother from son, brother from sister etc. If they are not following Christ, in the sense that they are being abusive, hateful, unloving, then you have every right to leave them behind. You still honor your father and mother and forgive them, but when you forgive someone it doesn’t mean you must tolerate further abuses or subject yourself to them.
@@TalkShowKelly thanks. That makes a lot of sense.
imagine getting uppercut, left, right hook and slammed down and the last words you hear is..."Stuart, what do you think.
“I’m geology 101 so I know my stuff”! Yea but you are 20-21, how much life experience do you have to tell a 70 year old what is wise, true and right. What you believe now may not stand the test of time and life experience! It’s what a 21 year learned after he knows it all, that may count.
Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead
The Bible speaks to me as a written record of the hopes and beliefs of the Hebrew tribes living on the Sinai Peninsula. It is useful to Hebrew historians and followers but not a useful source of guidance in a democracy founded on a man made Constitution. There is too much barbarism and stupidity for an intelligent, civilized person like me to take it as a guide.
I concur James, although I'd never claim to be overtly intelligent, heh, i have a standard high school intelligence and was educated in a Christian based school in the UK, even as a teenager, i had massive doubts as to what I was being taught as fact in religious studies class. How does one prove ANY of the supernatural occurrences as described in the Bible? .. we do however know for a fact that people embellish and invent stories that seem (and are) unbelievable.
"There is too much barbarism and stupidity for an intelligent, civilized person like me."
If your non-Christian wv is true, where do you get "barbarism/stupidity" as wrong/bad & "intelligence/civility" good? You have no objective foundation for your moral claims nor your wv claims as fact without resorting to logical fallacy.
I pray the only triune God of the:
1)supernaturally prophetic fulfilled in reality today (Romans 1:26-32/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18)
2)historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.)
3)transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible reveals Himself to you in Spirit & objective truth (John 16:13).
May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories.
So how does cliff or anyone else tackle the idea of being able to quantify morality? I’m not sure what it’s called but like empirically looking at saving x people over this one person. But this one person is the president or whatever, etc. Etc.
*What Jesus and His Father have spoken will never change, their promises are still good and our prayers are still answered! Hallelujah!!! But as impossible as this sounds, like so many of the true stories in scripture, our bibles have all been supernaturally changed by Satan in the last several years, right in our homes, in the fulfillment of prophecy. It's being done to prepare for the reign of the antichrist. All languages and all translations have been changed along with concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, all of the ancient Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic manuscripts. Even the Dead Sea Scrolls have been changed!*
*I'm 70, was saved when I was 10, and have read only the exact same copy of the King James bible my church gave me in 1961. (This does not mean I was a King James onlyist, but I'm glad I never read other ones or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I had memorized many scriptures from it through the years, then in 2014 I started seeing changes in it that I couldn't explain. I have an exceptional memory and can draw a detailed picture of my baby stroller. I had never owned a computer or heard of the Mandela Effect back then. But after being given my first computer in 2016, I finally found out why I had been noticing all of the oddities that I couldn't explain. Then I started diligently studying what should actually be called the Daniel 7:25 effect. That's where God said He would give the antichrist the power to do this. (Change times and laws) We're seeing many end times prophecies being fulfilled SUPERNATURALLY! This is some of the "lying signs and wonders" God told us He would give the AC power to perform which would even deceive His very elect, if it were possible in 2nd Thessalonians chapter two!*
*God said in the end of days, (NOW!) that He would send us a famine for hearing His words in Amos **8:11** and that He would give the antichrist the ability to do this in Daniel 7:25. In Daniel 12:4 & 12:9 He told him to seal his book until the end days. He told John **_not_** to seal his book because the end time is at hand in Revelation 22:10. One of the Greek definitions of seal in Strongs concordance is “to protect from Satan”. He also told us to “write His words in our hearts”, which meant memorize, if not word for word at least the essence of what was written, because He knew this was going to happen.*
*God commanded us to "prove all things", and people **_better_** obey Him, especially on this subject. I urge you to research this. There are many brothers and sisters making videos about the changes with more proof of what was originally written and I have lots more about this in my playlist 👉 which can be found by typing in (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE)* 👈
*I've continued to study scripture by learning what Satan has been changing. Soon Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled too, and the only way it can happen is by not being able to see these videos that document what used to be written in our bibles.*
*_May God bless all who read this with eyes to see this incredible faith strengthener, and how close we are to our Saviour's return!!!!_*
*P.S. Everyone is going to learn about this one way or the other. I'm just trying to save people from hearing Jesus explain it to them at the Gate.* 🙏✝️💪
Why does it matter if Jesus explains it or you explain it here ?
Without lies, atheism dies.
Why does Jesus not like change ?
Because it falls through the holes in his hands
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@@jasonnoble7302 What are you going on about now Jason? Is that supposed to be a joke? Why don’t you and Bonnie find a hobbie? You guys are boring.
@@jasonnoble7302 You know you don't have any common cents.
@@DS-ld8ns
Haha
Good one ☝️
@@jasonnoble7302 I should start picking up the pennies.
some animals also have one mate for life [ wolves ,beavers ,mice etc ], swans have been known to commit suicide if the partner dies - humans are a long way from this - lets face it we do need Jesus's teaching as we are all rotters.
If you were a fish surely you would complain of the perils of living in the sea. Men with great nets catch you and eat you. Other fish larger than you eat you too. Or if you were a seal would you dream of being a black and white Orca whale instead of being hunted by them. There are animals being hunted by wolves who hunt in packs to feed their hungry families. The majestic lions tear other lesser animals to pieces. This is not evil. It’s survival. God could have just as easily made us into dogs or cats or even a great big grizzly bear. But He made us into what we are. Let us be thankful for that.
God speaks to any generation that chooses to believe in him. If they do not believe in him, the god simply goes away. God is a concept in people's minds. BELIEVE in him - he becomes real to you, don't believe in him and he goes away.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Of course he is not observable and is not real, but he exists as thoughts in people's minds.
@@robertmitchell-tv5yf There are similarities. He knows when you been good or bad and as long as kids believe in him, he has a way of convincing them to be good. hehe. Once the charade is over, he no longer is of concern. It is the same with gods. I know this from personal experience. I used to believe in the God of the bible, and he seemed real because I thought of him everyday. He was important. When I stopped believing in him, he went away quietly and never returned. He no longer is important to me, just like Santa. He plays no role in my life and has no power over me. Funny what believing things can do to a person's mind.
Cliff I need you to talk to my sister
If God is all good and all powerful, why is there suffering? We can only speculate. Here is a possible explanation.
As we know that God knows all things we also know that God knew before creating mankind that there would be suffering in this world.
But why doesn’t He prevent it? We know that God has created us for everlasting life. But why didn’t God prevent Satan the tempter from being amongst us.
Let’s think about it.
We can rightly assume that the remaining angels in heaven have obtained a greater character by proving to themselves that they are indeed faithful to God by resisting Lucifer’s temptation to rebel against God.
And let us also consider the following. If a top angel in heaven namely Lucifer, with greater insights into the constituency God than us, could actually tempt himself, then how would we ultimately not also tempt ourselves and therefore not need a tempter to achieve this. On this basis we can say that even without Satan tempting us we would have eventually tempted ourselves.
Also as we on earth try to persuade others to forsake their rebellion to God, it seems reasonable to assume that the holy angels also tried to persuade the rebellious angels to cease from their rebellion to God, albeit, it was to no avail.
But maybe the sin arising from self temptation is so overpowering, so intoxicating, it cannot be forsaken. Maybe those fallen angels became so hardened in their sin, it was impossible to forsake it.
And maybe if man tempted himself without an outside agency tempting him, the whole human race might have needed to be destroyed, as it was the with the great flood. And if this was the case then God would not have created the human race. And neither would God have created the angels if He knew He would need to destroy them all.
Also we assume that because the remaining angels in heaven have passed the test, they have now been sealed by God making sin an impossibility. And likewise we recognise that upon obtaining the crown of everlasting life we too will never sin again.
But in order to obtain this guarantee from God whereby we eventually get sealed by God making sin an impossibility, we must first be tested and pass the test.
But as we would not be able to pass the test if we tempted ourselves, God therefore allowed us to be tempted by Satan, knowing that even though we would succumb to the temptations, it would ultimately be possible to repent, via the assistance of Jesus Christ, and be reconciled to God.
Man is the greatest of all God’s creatures here on earth. He gave us an intelligence that sets us apart from the animals who are destined to have no knowledge of God.
God’s choice was to make us like the animals or perhaps as innocent apes in the trees thereby sparing the earth from the suffering caused by the sins of man.
But in the grand scheme of things God deems it worthwhile to create mankind knowing it will result in an imperfect world of suffering.
By man’s reckoning it’s not worth it. What does God achieve. A messed up world. And only few will obtain everlasting life, though it’s available to all. Therefore why does God do it? And also to achieve this small result God Himself has to become a sacrificed man on a cross at Calvary.
We therefore must assume that though the result seems small in our eyes, we must be underestimating the value of becoming the new creatures we are yet to be, who are clothed in eternal life. It must be much greater than we can possibly imagine.
It’s really all about love. God gets nothing more than the joy of giving us what we are yet to receive.
12:50 A process without a creator? (Mice in a piano)
14:21 strychnine (what vs. why)
25:27 Can you find 100% proof of anything?
Gods desire to create this world is equal to mice in a piano
Learn please
Then why do you trust the disciple's eyesight?
Abuse suggests purpose. If there is no real purpose, then there can be no abuse. When atheists speak of innocence and guilt, and things like honor of abuse, they are being arbitrary. Fact is, they recognize in their hearts that moral truth exists, they just don't know why they believe this. But they believe it because God made them for a purpose and objective moral values and duties do exist. Their own conscience betrays them! (Romans 2:14-15)
Here’s your problem now.
By definition the Christian Gods desires are arbitrary “ his will be done” is an arbitrary position
So, you don’t have a problem with arbitrary positions when it comes to your blind faith but you do have a problem with arbitrary positions of a moral agent
Hypocrite much
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@@jasonnoble7302You only expose you are the bigger hypocrite. You didn’t create anything or show evidence you are reliable, you didn’t create purpose or control physical laws so there is far less reason to follow your will. Your future is a meaningless death by your own blind faith so you have nothing to offer anyone except the same meaningless death. God can connect people to a meaningful future, you cannot, you have no power or thought to do so at all. Here you are claiming others should trust and do your will when you have nothing to offer if your will be done, no evidence your will is reliable.
@@jasonnoble7302 It’s like Cliff says in this video that if your birth is an accident and your death is an accident then everything in between is an accident. By your blind faith in accidents nobody need trust your accidental indignation.
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You -
If your birth is an accident and your death is an accident; then, everything in between is an accident.
Me -
What.?
That is the dumbest thing I've ever read, at one person's autistic attempt, to mimic an argument.
Everyone, above the age of eight, knows how births occur and that death occurs due by various reasons.
Either say what you mean and say it in a way that's not absolutely stupid, or, shut up and stop embarrassing yourself by proving to everyone just how asinine you are.
@@boltrooktwo Was your birth pre ordained by God then boltrook, or was it just happenstance? The point is, once we're born, it's up to us to try and make sense of what we see around us, and, due to so many different variables coming into play, location, faith, knowledge, upbringing, etc, we are all incredibly diverse in how we view things. Had you or I had been born in a highly Islamic country, we would have completely different thoughts about life and God.
You can feel God
Doesn't it say in Genesis that we turned away from God and pain and suffering came into the world as a result? How can you not know.. We are in a fallen world and Satan has dominion over this world.. for now! Until God restores everything back to how it was meant to be when He created everything perfectly.
Ask Cliffe....ok. Anything to say about your pal Ethan Chandler...arrested on sex abuse charges.
Do animals pick mates based on looks or personality?
Yes
I mean animals have all kinds of "mating rituals" to woo a potential partner.
@@DS-ld8ns Not an answer.
@@DS-ld8ns which ones do so?
@@raulcastro925 that is an answer.
Lots of animals do,
that is why there is Alphas in the animal kingdom.
Why there is mating dances in many different species of animals.
You are purposely being obtuse.
The name of Christian was first called in antioch. That was Paul did not want to mention the name of the Messiah but used Christ, the Greek hero's name, instead of the name of the Messiah.
Paul's said, I planted, and apollos watered, that is the Christian religion.
The Messiah said that every tree that is not planted by the father will be cut down. So Paul planted Christian will be cut down.
Christian religion does not want to keep the Lord's Sabbath, but want to keep the Pope's Sunday.
So it will be cleansed by the fire of the Lord. If you want to be saved, keep the Sabbath and abandon Paul's Christianity. We have only a short time left.
Here is an important answer that Cliffe is missing.
The word for "eternal" hell is aion and can just mean age. In Matthew 24 the disciples ask Jesus what will be the signs of the end of this world. World is aion here. So you gotta keep in mind that certain people had motives geared towards keeping people afraid of burning forever and making you pay $ for your own salvation. Luke 16 mentions a gulf. There is a good side and a bad side. Think to yourself. How could we enjoy heaven if all of the goody goodies are on one side and right next store there's a boiling pit of lava where people are not just burning for billions of years, but trillions upon trillions of years. How could a loving God allow that? And how could we enjoy heaven if one of our loved ones didn't make it? No, after the 1000 years they are blotted out. It's as if they never existed. Gone from our memories and gone from our lives for good. They burn up like fat to a spiddle and the smoke of their ashes go up forever and ever. Revelation 20:14 “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”God is a consuming fire and I'm not saying He is that lake of fire, but he indeed can destroy the soul.
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She probably thinks she is an Israelite and clearly is from somewhere below Egypt
PLEASE! READ THIS: 👉The Bible does speak about the Creation process: it was by the Word of God, "He commanded and everything came into being" Psalm 33:9. Indeed the Bible does not present physical formulas and chemical reactions, but reveals the time (six days) and the how (by his word). I have to disagree with Pr. Cliff in this point, that it's okay to believe that evolution could have been the process God used to create everything. It definitely wasn't. Evolution is extremely cruel and contrary to the Word of God as it involves death as an active agent in the process, the death of the least adapted to conditions, and life for the strongest or best adapted. But according to the Bible, death is the wages of sin (Romans 6:23). Jesus came to die to free us from death, so would God use death in His creation process and then send His Son to free us from something He Himself established? Would God say: "If you eat of the forbidden fruit you will die", when death was already present in human existence? It would be somewhat ironic and sadistic. And even if we say that Adam and Eve were the first complete human beings in the process of evolution (which is already inconsistent because we were created in the image and likeness of God and an underdeveloped human being, like a neanderthal, does not represent the perfect image of God), Genesis 1 and 2 say that He created and saw that it was "GOOD", it does not say that He created something incomplete, that is, not good, and that "this" He created needed to be transmuted until it became good. The most serious of all this would be that, if we emerged from an evolution, there was also no sin in biblical terms, since sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4). Did the first primordial amoeba sin to have to die for a more developed amoeba to survive? Without sin there was no fall of humanity, the fall of humanity was what caused death. If there was no fall of humanity, Jesus would not have needed to rescue us from the consequences of sin. Soon the death of Jesus would have no value or meaning. It is inconsistent to be a Christian and believe in evolution.
Exactly how is it morally good to own the children of your slaves
Or as the apologists like to say indentured servitude
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT
Is it morally good to take possession of a child just because your female slave gave birth ?
Does that child belong to the slave owner or the mother ?
According to the bible a slave owner owns the child without any regard to the desire of the mother or the child
No, this is not indentured servitude
It’s slavery at its worst
exactly Jason, how easy would it have been for Jesus to explicitly condemn the owning of fellow human beings as your own property and to beat them and torture them? I've yet to hear a truly credible answer.
@@bonnie43uk
Jesus taught us to love your neighbor, it is one of the fundamental teachings of the Bible.
However by the time the Bible began to be written, humans had already established social structures and economic systems that conflicted with godly principles.
While some of the practices involved were condemned in his written Law, God chose to tolerate others, such as slavery.
“God’s Law regulated slavery so that, if practiced, slaves would be treated in a humane and loving manner.”
Later, in the days of Jesus and his apostles, slavery was an entrenched practice in the Roman Empire.
As Christianity spread, it was inevitable that individuals who were slaves and others who were slave owners would come in contact with the good news and become Christians.
Neither Jesus Christ himself nor his apostles preached a gospel of social liberation, as if trying to reform the existing system.
Rather, both slaves and slave owners were admonished to love one another as spiritual brothers.-Colossians 4:1; 1 Timothy 6:2.
As is the case with every Bible-related question, the issue of slavery must be considered in context. A careful examination of the Scriptures reveals that God deplores the mistreatment of humans.
Your intellectual dishonesty always gets the better of you.
I can’t wrap my head around why morality has to come from God.
We are emotional beings, who benefit from order over chaos. Isn’t it a valid argument to say it benefit all humans, not to murder and steal, simply because we are better of coexisting.
If there is no God, there cannot be absolute morality, only subjective opinions. The issue is this: who defines what is beneficial? People who steal believe they do benefit from stealing, so in their view it is not wrong. We need to have a Mind that is beyond the human mind who is the standard of goodness and righteousness. Without that we are just going with what most people agree upon, and agreement does not necessarily mean it is truth. Truth is not subject to opinion or agreement. Hope this helps.
Thanks. It is still a complicated matter to me, but it helps for sure.
I guess I’m not convinced there has to be true morality. The argument that there is no God and we create our own morality within a society is still a valid argument even though it still doesn’t work out every time.
I’ll keep listening to him with an open mind.
@@yawhboateng youtube deleted my comment, don't know why.
There are many things in the Bible that are error in God's character and nature as God is far more loving than how He is portrayed. I just wanted to say that the truth about God can be found at the Divine Truth channel, which is often quite difficult to hear because it confronts a lot of things in our lives but it is very much worthwhile, to listen and implement.
I wish you all the best,
Kristijan
Christian talk about the truth. That is why many people reject Jesus is the Savior ❤
Does the Bible Speak to This Generation? Yes it does. However, these kids need to put down their iphones and maybe clean out all of that apple jelly out of their ears, get real with themselves and listen to the Word.
How to make atheists
Step 1 Get them to read the bible
@justingary5322
You mean have someone teach them the modern secular based morality apologetics people like cliffe use to justify their religious immoral worldview
Yeah, some people fall for that modern apologetics stuff.
But If you just read the bible and take it in the original context I find it hard to believe normal people would accept it as true or morally good
@@jasonnoble7302 Yet YOU'RE here watching a Christian speaker🤔
Ya know why? I do. It's called CONVICTION Sally. Have a Jesus blessed day!!!
@@jasonnoble7302 Yet YOU'RE here watching a Christian speaker🤔
Ya know why? I do. It's called CONVICTION Sally. Have a Jesus blessed day!!!
@justingary5322 Yet YOU'RE here watching a Christian speaker🤔
Ya know why? I do. It's called CONVICTION Sally. Have a Jesus blessed day!!!
I'll let you guys in on a little insider secret....the Bible speaks to every generation until the generations stop 😅
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BTW, you guys are really awesome in that you do a good job defending your beliefs and also making people THINK. I admire this, but the thing is you cannot prove a god exists in the first place. Your opinions and philosophy is not better than anybody else's. Philosophy does not prove anything, it gives you some ways of thinking about things but offers no ultimate answers. It tackles issues that are not proven, so the God question is a perfect example of philosophy/theology.
Philosophy is of the mind. WE ALL HAVE TO USE IT. Without God, what can the atheist/materialist offer as an explanation? No freewill? No objective morality? No innate value or purpose. Everyone just create their own meaning morality and values?
@@JPC75-q4g OK, so I am an Atheist, what is a question you want me to answer? I will answer for myself only as Atheists have no dogma in particular, they must follow, I think for myself and will tell you what I think.
@@JPC75-q4g
So what? That is not an argument for anything. All that shows is that certain people are so arrogant and self important that they cannot possibly entertain the idea that their life might be meaningless.
If you love her, you would marry her first.
When i have to get food Chemicals are in motion.
When i type this Message Chemicals are in motion.
Is everything i do Chemical?
Explain WHY I should believe Science or Evolution gave me (Non-Chemical) Choices?
Everything we do chemical? Maybe. But that doesn't mean ... I mean feelings, emotions, even consciousness might be the emerging properties of those complex chemical reactions.
But then again, God could make all those chemicals with the order of nature he designed and created ... That would work that way. Couldn't he?
In other words, whatever happens in nature with and by the order of nature he designed and created would work in any which way or any what ways.. With God, anything is possible, nothing is impossible. In other other words, one can't say it's impossible anything in nature by nature when you believe he designed and created this nature.
@@tTtt-ho3tq
I can say that is impossible for an always good creator to permit the not good gratuitous evil things we observe in nature
@@jasonnoble7302
That might be debatable. I was talking of if it's impossible for him to do or not. I wasn't talking about his will. I didn't say he did or didn't.
Now, he himself may be always good. But that may not necessarily mean whether he let free will be free or not, even when free will do bad things. Because then it's not gonna be free or free choice to do bad things. And he doesn't exactly let it go completely freely either, though. He judges and ultimately punishes ultimately, final judgement, hell and heaven. So how do we ... how does he define "bad things" in this world. I don't know. I don't know his will. You don't know. Nobody knows. But it may be possible.
@@tTtt-ho3tq
Ok, well you explain it to me
Is it always normatively not good to allow the rape and torture of children ?
If you could stop a child from being raped and tortured and you free will decided not to would that be a morally normative good action or a morally normative not good action ?
@@jasonnoble7302
"Normative"? Normative to us, by us amangst us humans? We die in this world but we really don't, do we? There're hell and heaven with or by God. So for or with God, nobody really dies, per se. Just change where you are, maybe? And God gave us life so he can take it away as many Christians say. Rape? Moses told his people to save virgins for themselves. Sex slaves? Kill all Canaanites, including anything that breathe. Is it 'normative'? I don't know. There're many things I don't know. There're many things that don't add up. I don't know. I'm only a human. Forgive me.
I'm not sure if Cliffe fully understands how evolution works, he says he can fully accept it as a process ... that's good. But then he says, "I can't accept it as an origin", Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, evolution explains how life forms adapt to their surroundings. The actual origin of life from a naturalistic point of view is something that is currently beyond the scope of science.. it's work in progress so to speak.
Evolution is a doomed theory that takes faith to believe in, it is a religious principle from people who evangelize their faith in nature, their nature centered religion. Nobody sees the full process but they claim some power in nature that makes evolution the way it is with their behavioral expressed faith and religious structure.
whoever has replied to me, I'm afraid it's not showing up on the thread.
@@bonnie43uk Evolution is a doomed theory that takes faith to believe in, it is a religious principle from people who evangelize their faith in nature, their nature centered religion. Nobody sees the full process but they claim some power in nature that makes evolution the way it is with their behavioral expressed faith and religious structure.
I think when he says that he’s responding to people who say the believe in evolution as an origin
Does moot=mute
To be SAVED according to our apostle Paul, you must BELIEVE/ TRUST that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins,was buried,and rose again on the third day,and He Shed His Blood as payment for all of your sins forever,( you personally).Romans 3:25” Faith in His Blood”.
Why does God permit evil ?
1 Corinthians 13:8-13,
Forced to learn about Christianity? Sorry, but nobody is forced to learn about Jesus. Give me a break.