Give Me an Answer - Why Should We believe That There Is No Supernatural Events?
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2022
- Program 1322 ................... - Faith and Doubt - Naturalism - The Gospel .................................................................
Recorded at Texas - September 2021.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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As an atheist I struggled with how there possibly could be such evil/ugliness and such good/beauty in this world. As a believer I see the same thing when I see the cross, God's beauty/good and our evil/ugliness in the same place!
but if you truly are an athiest, too say things are evil/ good means nothing since they are relative in that worldview.
@@danj8038 The term atheist is funny. As a born again believer I now understand that everyone knows God exists, just as Romans1:18-32 elaborates. *It all comes down to Jesus* . Everyone knows God exists, even "atheists". The litmus is, do you acknowledge that He revealed Himself in the form of a man and died for your sins? Atheists reject that, so they make their own gods and create their own rules as Romans1 explains.
So yes, I agree with what you say. Nobody can live out the ideology of atheism, because it is complete nonsense. And as the Bible tells us, nobody truly believes there is no God. He left His fingerprints EVERYWHERE.
@@NotOfThisWorld567 I cannot _know_ this god exists if I do not _believe_ this god exists. And I do not believe this god exists.
Knowledge is a _subset_ of belief. One cannot know what one doesn't believe.
So no. I do not know that a god exists.
1. Is it ever morally acceptable for humans to rape in your opinion? Why?
2. Do you believe that the universe is infinite? Why?
3. Do you believe that life evolved from non-life? Why?
Will you answer these?
@@bullwhipbobbylove2932 To whom are you addressing your questions?
Stuart, it's amazing to watch you grow and become so articulate. I'm certain one day will come when you will take over this ministry, and take the place of your father. Cliffe has prepared you well, and it's such a blessing to have this ministry in our lives. Thank you the Knecthle men for your minds, time, and compassion.
@@fidenful you do realize that people can think and grow for themselves, right? I believe that even in these videos, Stuart's dad has very frequently encourged him to be skeptical and to look at other religions; so I dont understand why youd leave such an ignorant and bigoted comment. Incase you didnt know, its rude and looks down on the intelligence of Stuart.
@@jaquicx9500 Correct, Cliffe has given so many arguments and doubts to stewart and he still chose Christ, Jesus is the way and you are correct, he chose his faith by himself😄
@@fidenful Islam doesn’t have this much proof or anything compared to Christianity
@@fidenful
If you believe this faith to be silly, then what is your reason for watching the video and commenting on it?
@@jaquicx9500 Islam is filled with gaping holes. See Acts17apologetics' channel. Stuart would find those holes without the influence of his father. I have no doubt about that .Look into the life of Nabeel Qureshi. Also, take note of all of the Muslims having dreams with Jesus Christ at the center of them.
Stuart is doing an amazing job stepping in and learning from his dad. When he takes over this ministry he won’t miss a step. God bless Stuart and Cliff.
That's what keep the delusion going.
@@JamesRichardWiley I pray that God will reveal himself to you
It's easier to say: "God isn't real," than to say: "I know He's real, I'd just rather not submit to Him."
if you knew there was an all-powerful all-seeing dictator, then rebelling against him would be obviously futile. doing anything would be futile, because it all your life's work could be undone by him in the blink of an eye. obeying him if futile too, nothing you can do he couldn't do himself with no effort.
merely saying he doesn't exist would not make this any less hopeless.
@@sofia.eris.bauhaus For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Romans 1:18-23 KJV
@@sofia.eris.bauhaus
Such biased language... Do you believe that God does not exist... or is it that you fear he does... or that you hate him?
@@jessebryant9233 i wonder if you think the bible verse Huy quoted uses biased language.
but no, i don't believe in god, i think the evidence speaks against such a being. of course assuming omnipotence is a coherent concept, a god could easily hide itself, deceive me, or mess with my mind so in that sense i couldn't rule out it's existence.
but in that case there is nothing i could know about this being. it may be good or bad, rational or irrational, reward or punish people for all kinds of actions or beliefs. i could just pretend to know, just on the chance that some god may reward me for it. but it could just as well be a punishment instead.
if there were a good god, i'd have nothing to fear, at least…
@@sofia.eris.bauhaus
While your comment failed to post, I can see it in the notifications... So you THINK the evidence speaks against the existence of a Creator God? Okay, talk to me about that. What have you got in the way of evidence?
Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.
~ *James* *4:8*
He can tickle my balls, eat grass, and be chained by my fence.
@Our Savior "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you."
Stuart is doing his thing y’all God is really blessing this ministry
Praise God for this ministry, I would be glad if these two were part of the outreach team at my church
I just subscribed. love this channel. keep up the good work!
I love this! You posted this whole I was watching your #1016, I love these! I'm so grateful and I didn't know that was your son! That's lit and I'm grateful you brought him into the mix, he elucidates so well! I can see you taught him well!
10:52 I like that reply
🎯🎯🎯never stop doing what you do my guy🙏🏾
Love this guy! A far better way to reach people than sitting in a church every Sunday re reading and hearing the same dead messages. This is living in Christ!
Thank you!
I love cliffe Whata great guy
Love what you guys do God bless you.
Agnosticism as a life long effort being phrased as “worshipping the search” is amazing
What's wrong with searching...especially when no valid answers have been discovered? Agnosticism is the most honest position, IMO.
Agnosticism is the position of not having sufficient knowledge or information to justify making a change from a default position (in thus case the default position is atheism). And I agree with Deavon - _agnosticism_ is the most honest position.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Honest for someone who is ignorant.
@@theoskeptomai2535 What knowledge or information would supply you with enough weight to make a choice of either complete atheism or becoming a follower of Jesus, if I may ask? God bless you!
@@peytonsingh6258 _Sufficient, credible evidence_ would convince me.
really good convo, the students were great
Thank you Cliffe, thank you Jesus 😇🙏🙏🏼🙏🏿🙏🏽🥳🙌🙌🙌
Thank you my God and Lord in Christ ( First ).
Thank you Cliffe ( second ).
The grace of my God and my Lord in Christ, be with you my sister in Christ. 🙌👐🙏✍🤝
By the way where is Jesus right now? I haven't seen him since I came into form 75 years ago.
@@JamesRichardWiley well if your talking to me on this channel looks like your still searching for him😇knock and he will answer, you have to be sincere, ofcourse 🙌🙌🙌🙏🙏🏼🙏🏻🙏🏿🙏🏽
Both the theist and atheist have miracles in their worldview.
When people tell me “life is meaningless” which I have heard. I simply say “fine. Stop sucking wind right here right now forever and I will believe that you actually believe what you just said”
There are no miracles in my worldview. Evey phenomenon I have ever encountered appears to have emerged from necessary and sufficient antecedents over some finite period of time. All known causation have been natural or artificial - never supernatural.
@@theoskeptomai2535 I’ve seen the supernatural. I am a witness. Good and evil are real. Choose YHWH’s salvation that you may live once your fleshly body dies.
@@raymondhunter2401 Do you think for a moment I will simply trust your _unsubstantiated claim_ over my _own accurate, reliable, and valid experience?_ Really?
@@raymondhunter2401 Well, do you?
@@theoskeptomai2535 are you claiming my experience isn’t accurate and/or true? I tell the truth. I have no reason to lie. I care about your life, and one day, you will die and face God. I would hate for you to die in your sins and face a Holy God.
God bless them :)
Cliffe rocks! Not to mention Stuart!
Tbh, I wrote "Cliffe Rocks" before I heard Stuart. He is rockin' it too. Some really hard to refute logic coming from his mind. God Bless these two for carrying out this ministry. It really is an incredible ministry, imo.
"Agnosticism is worshiping the search" ~ Stuart Knechtle
I'm adding that to my apologetic arsenal. Selah
If you can believe the first verse in the Bible (Genesis 1:1), you should have no problem believing in the rest. 🙏
The first verse of the bible is totally at odds with scientific discovery
@@colinmatts No its not. The first verse talks about the establishment of time, space, and matter. Just like the Big Bang.
@@spacecoastz4026 No it doesn't. It never mentions the words time, space or matter. And it says the earth existed before the sun. That's where it completely goes against science.
@@colinmatts In the beginning (establishment of time) God created the Heavens (space) and the earth (matter). Do you not think that God could create the earth prior to creating the sun, moon, planets, etc? Can "science" prove that the sun existed prior to the earth? NO, it can't.
@@spacecoastz4026 very good point. There it's no conflict between genesis 1:1 and science. People like Colinmats invent conflict and then stand firmly against their own invention.
It's quite sad really.
One of my favourite quotes from Steve Weinberg;
“Frederick Douglass told in his Narrative how his condition as a slave became worse when his master underwent a religious conversion that allowed him to justify slavery as the punishment of the children of Ham. Mark Twain described his mother as a genuinely good person, whose soft heart pitied even Satan, but who had no doubt about the legitimacy of slavery, because in years of living in antebellum Missouri she had never heard any sermon opposing slavery, but only countless sermons preaching that slavery was God's will. With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
First of all a true follower of Christ wouldn't need a MAN to preach a sermon to understand that slavery is wrong, all one would need is discernment from the Holy Spirit when reading the bible.
Secondly, there are no GOOD people, so there is that too.
The real question is: Why do you believe that there is, in reality, anything wrong with anything at all?
It seems as though Mr Arsecandle is all hung up on slavery!!!... Well, all ancient civilisations of the past engaged in one form of slavery or another. The slavery you read about in the bible was NOT race-based forced servitude. It was a voluntary way of paying of debts, or from keeping captives from mustering a rebellion. The slaves were to be treated well and supplied with all the necessities of an average everyday person... On top of that, every slave had to be released after 7 years. Many slaves even refused to be released once their 7 years were over, and they chose to stay with their previous slave owners due to the good treatment they received. In those cases, it was required that the former slave should be payed a full workers wage and everyday supplied with food, clothing, and housing.
@@GraftedOliveBranch
Will this reply show up? Looks like your comment got ghosted. Just FYI...
@Our Savior Is Islam or Christianity true? Maybe Buddhism? Perhaps Judaism is the correct religion to preach? Can all of those religions be true?
Wish these were posted unedited
Going to the person stealing the backpack argument you could steal something from that thief that would make them feel wronged
It’s all by faith in Jusus Christ! Hebrew 11. Thank you for sharing!
Evidence first - then faith in the evidence.
Correction....No evolution, just speciation or micro-evolution. God did create everything perfect but when man sinned, the creation became affected. Herbivores became Carnivores, disease corrupted the flesh, etc. However, God created animals with the ability to adapt and change within their kind.
Summary......God is amazing!!!!!
Then how do you account for common ancestry of distinct species?
@@theoskeptomai2535 They will say, common designer.
Classic
You know there are carnivore fossils that predate the entire Bible right? This isn't hidden information.
Well said. 👍
God knew that man would sin. He planned it that way. God knows all things long before they happen.
Amen
Around 14:00 mark, Stuart needs to tie in that not only are we made in the image of God but we ALL have the law of God written on our hearts. Romans 2:14-16 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Good to hear Cliffe say he doubts God on a regular basis.. me too Cliffe, it's good to doubt things.
So you DO believe that God exists! Well, that also demonstrates that you're a liar... But we knew that already.
@Our Savior ??? where did I accuse you of lying Jacob? .. quote me exactly the words I used. Not what you think I said. I do not recall accusing you of telling a lie.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Not so sure Sterling, I'm guessing he does have doubts, given all the scientific data out there which seems to go against the types of things he's invested his life in, I would say he asks himself questions all the time as most of us do,.. could I be wrong? Given that ALL religions cannot be right.. it follows that they COULD all be wrong. So, yeah, i think he doubts.
@Our Savior So you're NOT going to tell me EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD what I said that makes you think I accused you of lying?. eg, .. Tom... YOU SAID THIS ...( followed by an exact quote of what I actually said) I answered your questions as best as i could from my perspective Jacob.. you accused me of not answering them "correctly" .. so you would only accept my answers if they correspond with what you happen to believe? ...if any of Jacobs friends in here who happen to be reading this , know exactly what I said in terms of accusing Jacob of lying.. please quote exactly what I said so that I can be made aware of it, and check that I DID say exactly what I'm supposed to have said.. that would be great. Thanks. 🙂
@Our Savior btw Jacob, I'm off to bed now. Hopefully catch up with you in the morning and you and your friends can tell me EXACTLY what lie I'm accusing you of. Signing off now. Peace and Love.
I was raised to believe that fornication was a good thing, it wasn't until I had an experience with Jesus that I ever felt any conviction about it, and I'm glad for that because with Godly wisdom I now see the error of my ways.
Did this 'experience with Jesus' occur anywhere beside your imagination?
@@theoskeptomai2535 how does it feel to be a fulfillment of prophecy? Mockers and scoffers abound in the latter days
@@ClintonHester88 How does it feel to fear answering a straightforward question directly?
@@theoskeptomai2535 oh I'm not afraid, Jesus showed up and it was so awesome I couldn't speak for a year, and for two years afterward I had little to no situational awareness, the entire world became a new place and He downloaded instantly enough revelation about the Bible that as I read it I found I already knew most of it without having ever read it. I'm not afraid of my testimony one tiny bit, we overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony. I was changed overnight and since then I've turned fully to following Jesus Christ. You on the other hand clearly are the one who's axfually afraid because my testimony threatens your fragile delusion. Jesus has manifested Himself to every single believer in the world and Jesus clearly says in the Bible Hinself in His own words "I will manifest myself to you". When the curtain is drawn back you'll realize you've been a fool and He's seen everything you did, heard everything you said, and knows everything you ever thought and whether it's willingly in this life or unwilling in the next, every single knee will bow to Christ. ☺
@@theoskeptomai2535 I'm now a pastor, teacher, evangelist and counselor and I've helped literally thousands of people see their need for Christ and helped thousands more stay in the straight and narrow path of which my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ spoke on.
I love the videos on this channel. One point of criticism would be the surrender to an evolutionary worldview. The Bible is clear that before the fall there was no death and everything was good. That precludes the ideas of evolution by natural selection before the fall of mankind.
The rules of the road (stop lights, lanes, right-of-way, etc) are all superseded by a higher authority when a fire engine operates with lights and sirens. In the same way, God has the authority and the capacity to operate within nature to supersede the typical rules of the domain.
Note: Clearly we can break the law and run the red light, and we call that breaking the law, the point is there is also an agent that supersedes the normal rules
I would like to invite you to share with me a thought experiment.
Suppose there is a universe with no god. What would be the characteristics of this universe?
I suggest that people would still say that there is a god. People would say that they truly believe this god exists and they have a personal relationship with this being. They would point to mysterious events and say that event was a miracle from god. They would deem a lot of coincidences to be prophecy from god.
People would claim they know certain attributes of this god. They would say that this god is perfect, powerful, all-knowing, and loving. They would say that he is eternal and he can take on many forms. And he can even author a book and write on our hearts for us to learn about him and sense his presence.
And they would proclaim that they know what this god wants from them. And he has something to offer that is very appealing if you only abide by his wishes.
But, not everyone would be in agreement about this god. Conflicts will arise and divisions will occur between those believers. Why, there may even be wars as a result of these conflicts.
You see, that hypothetical universe would look exactly the same as the universe we live in today. So, how do we discern which universe is the true one?
Good convos as usual! If anyone wants to dive deeper into the scientific evidence for God, please check out Dr. Hugh Ross, he's a Christian apologist who also happens to be a brilliant astrophysicist! He has plenty of presentations here on YT :) also, Dr. Frank Turek gets into some of the science in his presentations as well. As a science person and future physician myself, they helped me on my journey to belief in Jesus. Thank God!
Have you watched any of his presentations?
There is no scientific evidence for any god. That is the point, and the reason these questions and debates happen. And certainly not for the specific christian one you believe in. That one is easily debunked because it falls outside of logic, reality and physical law. Has been a no show, absent, ever since it was introduced. Ask them how much of those scientific stats they got from the bible. The very thing you people deny is what you use to try and promote magical made up beings ....
@Our Savior Ghosting ?
I can see yours and my comment.
@Our Savior I think it is just a flaw in the system, go out and then come back in. I did and once it was gone, then came back and it was there again. Nothing to fret...
@Our Savior Only it is not happening to me. That was also my point. No, not in my thread. Under the persons comment. This thread. I can see my thread and this one my friend. You saw my comment back to you so....
His underlying premise is that there is a supernatural God. He points to creationism as the reason we know that a supernatural God exists.
And if a Supernatural God exists then the idea of supernatural events is not so unbelievable. The underlying problem here is with his premise.
He just matter of fact state that creationism is true. But he provides no evidence for that. He just states it as a matter of fact.
He relies on the gullibility of his followers. That gullibility is displayed here in this comment section. Not one person here has evidence to back those claims despite saying that it’s plentiful.
Why do supernatural events no longer occur? Without mentioning personal experiences. Something documented, let's avoid the unfalsifiability fallacy.
Cliffe's point is that we know the universe is designed by an intelligent being because of the order and design of the universe. Order does not come from chaos. We know that there must be a living being who created because life comes from life. Never have you seen life come from nonlife. That's the premise.
@@Malhaloc You keep saying "we know" - no we don't know. For your information the universe has been shown to be inherently chaotic so you're wrong. Quantum mechanics and radioactive decay present challenges to the entire idea of causality.
We have seen life come from non-life because we exist, we don't know how life started but that does not give you license to insert your god into the gap, that's just another god-of-the-gaps fallacy. Especially when your god supposedly popped into existence about 4500yrs ago and the universe is 14b yrs old - see the problem?
@Our Savior Ok you show evidence for the supernatural events, the fact is they don't happen and have never happened.
Father like son..... 😊
May the Lord bless you two.
I love apologytics.
Question though, what evolution are they talking about?
This is just a UA-cam clip, and I didn't hear the whole debate.
Are they talking microevolution or macroevolution?
I'm assuming micro that species evolve within the same species. (Let's say, animals) Dog is a dog that evolves to a wolf. Speaking in 20th century terms.
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"Creation points to a supernatural god" - no it doesn't. For a start what creation?
I agree. I have never encountered any phenomenon to have been created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously pop into existence by the sole volition of a god. Each and every phenomenon I have ever experienced appears to have _emerged_ from necessary and sufficient antecedents over some finite period of time no matter how brief or epoch the interval.
You just pop in once a day then? And... the creation you live in. So how do you believe that this physical, rational, law guided universe came to be? Maybe you've never thought about that before? Probably aren't willing to start thinking either... You're too busy being the mindless cynic you and the other trolls on this channel take such pleasure in being. You know, you and that other silly dude who can't stay way... What's his name? Oh yeah. Theo Skeptomai.
@@theoskeptomai2535
Which means that you do believe things that are inconsistent with basic math, simple logic, and empirical observation. Dude, you checking your brain at the door ≠ everyone else is stupid. Love how you think yourself genius when you repeatedly state that natural phenomena that you observe in nature can be explained naturally. However, accounting FOR the material universe and natural world and the immaterial laws that govern it... Hey, don't rack your brain, you might smash the pea. (Proverbs 1:22, Romans 1:18-22)
As you were, gentlemen! (Proverbs 18:2)
@@jessebryant9233 Are you so insecure of your position you feel the need to attack other people?
Oh my what fragile existence you must have.
As for the universe, we don't know yet but we're getting there. That doesn't give you license to insert your god into a gap in our knowledge. That is what's known as an argument from ign0rance. These arguments are when one argues that something is true, not because they can demonstrate or offer evidence that their claim is actually true, but because they cannot think of any way to disprove their own unsubstantiated claim. These arguments tend to attack other claims to demonstrate their validity instead of offering any evidence that they are in fact independently true. This what you're doing.
You have no evidence for your god let alone that it created the universe.
Now run along as it will soon be bed time, there's a good boy.
My favourite parts of the bible are when Jesus is alone talking to god and someone who wasn't there wrote all about it.
Go figure, one day you people will realise your bible is just a poorly written story book.
The best part of that scenario is Jesus is talking to himself because you know the whole trinity thingy. Maybe the holy spirit wrote it down.
@@j_p_jr.487 Or his aunty Mabel she was good at dictation or so I've heard.
Hey! You're back to pa-troll some more? LOL Can't get enough, can ya? As for Scripture itself, how does it claim it came to be? As for specific passages in question... Could you cite those for us? And of course, any time you would care to explain your own naturalistic faith to the rest of us and give good reasons for why you believe what you do... [elevator music]
@@ramptonarsecandle LOL!
@@j_p_jr.487 I think we've upset poor Jesse, he's so insecure he has to have a cowboy as his avatar!
Every Christian should be subscribed to this channel. He is so sound. Only thing that I would critique him on is his view of muhammad. He is very kind towards muhammad.
He's pretty good... but he fudges on Genesis... Hey, nobody is perfect! (And that includes me!)
@@jessebryant9233 elaborate on how he fudges on Genesis?
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He seems to want to fit evolution into the mix and not take it as literally history.
@@jessebryant9233 genesis is poetry.
@@JohnjOcampo
Which parts and how do you know?
I think I worked at the same Brookeshire's as that girl! I think I talked with her about Jesus, too! Lol
Stuart says an atheist believes in miracles..in regards to the creation of the universe. As an atheist i have no idea how the creation of the universe came into being, I'm certainly not claiming it was a miracle. It's perfectly acceptable to say "I don't know" to lots of hard questions like that. Is there life on other planets?, again, i don't know, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't, given the sheer number of galaxies and stars out there, it's highly likely there is other life out there but I don't know for sure.
Very dishonest argument. You may not know what created the universe, but your claim as an atheist is it's not God. So you do claim to know what did not create the universe. So there is no avoiding your own position, there is logical consequences.
@@souzajustin19d It's not dishonest Stride Steams, it's an accurate answer.. i have ABSOLUTELY no idea how the universe came into being, it's way beyond my scope of knowledge, as an atheist, I am not claiming with any type of certainty that God absolutely 100% does not exist, .. in order for me to claim such a thing I would have to have knowledge of his non existence would I not? .. i have no such knowledge. It's an unknowable as i see it. How do you know for certain the Christian God of the Bible exists? Could you prove it to me? Has science discovered the Christian God? .. or any type of God? I've not been convinced of any such evidence thus far.
@@bonnie43uk if you accept the possibility of a God creating this universe, then you are not an atheist. Yes there is plenty of evidence for the existance of God, it's an academic standard to understand in every philosophy class. God is not a science question, it's a philosophy question. Science could never prove logic, that does not mean logic does not exist. You have a category error.
@@souzajustin19d I do not believe your Christian God exists SS, can i prove it? no, just as you cannot prove he exists.. I'm sure you believe strongly he does exist, but actually proving it to other people around you, especially non believers and believers in other Gods is not so easy is it? How would you go about proving it to someone who believed in a completely different God? .. could you convince them with your arguments?, or does it just come down to personal belief. Do you think the girl student who Cliffe was talking to in this video was convinced by Cliffes arguments? .. i highly doubt it, .. even Cliffe himself said he doubts Gods existence at times.. that's not really a ringing endorsement of his existence. You say it's a category error on my part, but even dictionaries have different interpretations of what an atheist is.. the best thing to do, is to ask an atheist what it is they actually believe. Most of the atheists I know would not say with 100% conviction that God does not exist.. even Richard Dawkins does not totally rule it out. I'm open to the possibility of some kind of supernatural being existing.. but as things stand.. as to what caused the creation of the universe.. i have no idea.
@@bonnie43uk Do you think if everyone belived the earth was flat, would it be so? Of course not. So it's pointless if the evidence convinces you or not, you are no closer to truth just because you are convinced or not convinced. The evidence does not change, Cliff may wake up and change his mind and say the earth is flat, but the evidence remains it's round. The catagory error you are making is you don't use science to prove God, you use philosophy.
To say that you cannot decide conclusively whether or not God exists, is to say that you actually HAVE decided...that He does not.
And to say that you do not believe is to live with the consequences.
It is rather like the very foolish people of Sicily who ignored the warning signs of Mount Etna's imminent eruption in 1669. Had the people heeded the signs, they would have survived, for they had plenty of time. However, they ignored the warning signs and as a result, more than 20,000 people died!
To NOT decide IS to decide!
Can we apply that logic to the people of San Francisco Mike.. they are sitting directly on top of a major earthquake faultline, ..at some point in the near future there WILL be a major earthquake that will kill countless thousands of innocent people. Why would God create a planet with faultlines which create major earthquakes, ..could God have created a planet WITHOUT those tectonic plates moving?
@@bonnie43uk
In order to better answer your question, let me ask you...
Have you ever read the Bible?
If so, what books have you read?
One either acknowledges the existence of a god (theist) or one does NOT (atheist).
Likewise. One is either convinced of the truth of the claim or one is NOT. There is no _decision_ to be made. A person does not choose that which he or she believes.
One can decide to examine his or her own convictions. One can decide to view his or her conviction from a different or oppisong perspective. One can search for new facts concerning his or her conviction. And one can have his or her convictions challenged by peers (like here in this discussion). But one cannot choose that which he or she believes.
@@mbgrafix Yes, i've read the Bible .. it's one of the main reasons why I'm no longer a Christian. I've read a ton of books on lots of different subjects Mike. So, why do you think God would create a planet with tectonic fault lines which result in thousands of innocent people being killed and cities destroyed?
@@theoskeptomai2535 that's a typical Theo Skeptomai statement.
OF COURSE you can decide what you believe. You set your own parameters for belief . Everyone does.
You set yours differently for God though.
This makes you a cynic, not a skeptic.
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
By Francois Gautier.
*Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.* Be Your Own Messiah.
1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
"Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!!
There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction
He really wants to save kids even if he’s dorky. He’s genuine.
He def. a weirdo.
A lot of the commenters on this channel claim they have evidence for their imaginary friend Jesus but not a single one of you can show me that claimed evidence. Most if not all of you don't even realise that his name, if he had existed would not have been "Jesus" or "Yeshua"
Jews in this period wrote Aramaic in Hebrew script so his name would not be "Yeshua" but as "Isho" or "Lesous". He didn't actually exist so it's somewhat a moot point what he would have been called.
I suggest any of you who doubt what I say go visit the Israel Museum and ask for evidence of Jesus and see how you get on.
His conception is true of all myth/legends (virgin birth) as is his birthday and where he was born. The day he was supposedly crucified was actually given at the Council of Nicaea in 325CE and no records exist of his crucifixion but is the same way of dying as many other so-called "Saviour Gods".
In short he was a myth and none of you can prove otherwise.
No one on this channel has told you that they can give evidence for an "imaginary friend".
This is just David Weeks being a two bit bully.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Sorry but they did, you not knowing that is testament to your ignorance and nothing else.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 You yourself claimed you were going to show me evidence but none has appeared, funny that.
If you think you're so clever refute what I have said above and let's see who knows more.
I say your Jesus isn't real and never existed - prove me wrong big man.
@@ramptonarsecandle wrong. Did you conveniently forget that a wager was made and despite all your bluster, you aren't as confident as you want to appear.
Here's the wager again. If I can give you a piece of evidence for the resurrection that doesn't confer from the bible (although that's a ridiculous stipulation that you put forth), will you agree to leave this forum and never return?
AGAIN evidence is defined as a piece of true information that points to the truth of a claim.
Your refusal belies your faux confidence.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Saint Paul, I will take your challenge. I will leave this channel for good if you can present one evidentiary fact - a fact that is demonstrable - that points to this Jesus having resurrected from death.
Unlike you, I have never cowered from defending or discussing my position. If I am wrong, I will learn something valuable and will have removed something I thought was true that wasn't. I will actually win if you can present one evidentiary fact. And so will _you._ So you have NO EXCUSE to not present this evidentiary fact right here, right now in this comment section. You have dodged me for nearly a year now. Man up!
You have continuely cowered from my challenge to debate our positions. And you will again now. _All_ you have are insults, false allegations, lies, and excuses. I want to see thus evidence. So stop cowering away and provide this evidence this time.
So I am here stating I accept your challenge. And I am stating that you're a COWARD and will not present this evidentiary fact with which you have challenged Rampton Arsecastle.
So stand and deliver, or cower off once again behind your veil of insults, juvenile antics, false allegations, and pathetic excuses.
People think that Jesus said "Peace on earth".
The actual verse says "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send [or bring] peace, but a sword." (Matt.34)
Nice eh? Following the family tradition of killing people. It would be worrying if it wasn't a story and the Jesus chap was real.
@Our Savior Your god is a very jealous god with an inferiority complex. You'd think that the almighty creator of everything would have a little more self esteem so that he wouldn't worry if someone had wrong thoughts like not loving him as much as their mother or father or daughter or son.
Nobody who is familiar with the scriptures says anything such thing... And what is wrong with what Jesus said? Dude, you are either committed to the truth or you're not. Why don't you share what you believe to be the truth with us? Do you think that there will be any division between those who embrace what you claim is the truth and what others claim? Surely we can at least agree on this self-evident reality: Whatever the truth is, it is what it is and can only be discovered.
@@jessebryant9233 read and understand what it’s saying.
Luckily it is a story and nothing more. None of it’s real.
@@ramptonarsecandle
Such hypocrisy! Clearly you don't understand and don't' care to. Well, that's on you, isn't it? (Proverbs 1:22, 2 Timothy 2:15) As for your worldview that you blindly embrace, well, thankfully, it is just a story and nothing more. None of your naturalistic worldview is true.😉
@@jessebryant9233 You're like a broken record, go away you're irrelevant here.
@12:20, define "evolution", micro or macro?
is this a tv show ?
Yes. It's a father and son show called Dumb and Dumber.
Why should we believe that there are no supernatural events.? I'll give you some reasons as given by the Wheel of the Law -
1) Do not believe in anything because it is rumored and spoken of by many.
2) Do not believe merely because the written statement of some old sage is produced; do not, be sure that the writing has ever been revised by the sage or can be relied on.
3) Do not believe in what you have fancied, thinking that, because an idea is extraordinary, it must have been implanted by a Deva or some wonderful being.
4) Do not believe in guesses, that is, assuming something at haphazard as a starting point and then drawing conclusions from it reckoning your two and your three and your four before you have fixed your number one.
5) Do not believe merely on the authority of your teachers and masters or believe and practice merely because they believe and practice.
I tell you all, you must know that this is false, this is punishable, this is censored by wise men; belief in this will bring no advantage to any one, but will cause sorrow.
Not heard of this "wheel of the law" before, i will have to check it out.. seems like a good set of practical laws. Thanks.
@@bonnie43uk
Too bad the Jackal doesn't live consistently with his own advice, eh? Oh wait, you have the same problem. Never mind...
@@jessebryant9233
You might want to elaborate cause that comment of yours was really pathetic. You're really reaching, aren't you.?
@@bonnie43uk I agree. I will have to check it out myself.
@@bonnie43uk
You might be able to google this but I don't know if you will have any luck. You might though.
I belong to a certain school and have access to their library.
Cliffe parading his personal brand of stupidity. He claims he knows there's an intelligent mind behind things - ok show me the evidence?
There is no evidence, end of.
Rampton = the latest edition to the resident trolls of this channel! 🤣 (Whom I suspect has numerous accounts, likes to thumb himself up, and who will delete his threads if he gets himself in too much trouble.) Just FYI everyone! 😜
@@fannybatter9569
Actually, there is no evidence that so much suggests that naturalism even could be true, let alone is true. Your faith is literally blind, deaf, and dumb.
no where do you say what you would replace what you sees as evil Christian beliefs with. You have never demonstrated the supreme attractiveness of your own beliefs but you do demonstrate the ugliness of your beliefs through your disparaging remarks.
He did not claim that he "knows", he gave strong solid evidence. Did you watch the video?
Creation/The Big Bang = Creator/The Big Banger
Are you speaking of creation _ex nihilo?_
And while i'm at it. Who wrote the title to this ? It would be ''There ARE No'' not ''There IS no''.....
Matthew 10:41
He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
All the prophets have lived ordinary lives and died ordinary deaths same as the non prophets.
@@JamesRichardWiley Huh?
Yaaaaaa
Order and design is only possible from a mind. The universe has order and design. The only obvious answer is from an intellectual mind. Order and design simply can't come from nothing. It's impossible for chance or nothing to create order and design. One could say oh that's an opinion or what one believes, but we know that everything in this world clothes, buildings, cars etc comes from a mind who puts them together. If everything could come about by chance then we wouldn't need builders architects factory workers etc.
It's so simple a child could understand. But it's a choice that one has to make, except or deny this so obvious fact.
AMEN brother Cliffe Knechtle I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ ❤️👊. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
Once was bad enough, the fact you’ve posted your nonsense three times is just embarrassing.
@@ramptonarsecandle Ok AND 😂
@@ramptonarsecandle I like that my comments bother you for no reason if what I'm saying isn't true. IRONIC
Justin posts this on other videos explaining that God is the explanation for anything he doesn't understand. I don't understand a lot of science but I don't fill the gap with the word "God".
2:50
You soon shall see the truth, the way,and the life! REAPENT before its to late for you all!
Of course. The obligatory "before it's too late" comment. You all don't even see what's right in front of you.
That would be REPENT not REAPENT ....... Oh the genius's floating around in this
Yoo what is Neon doing here
It cracks me up when people try to apply logic to proving an imagined thing like "the supernatural realm" is part of reality. It's like trying to prove that magic is real, when actual magicians tell us how they trick people into believing they see something that they don't. True believers avoid reality, in order to maintain a belief. What does that tell you about their beliefs?
And yet you blindly believe that nature can account for all it contains... and itself? That would crack me up if it were not so profoundly stupid and inane. The Bible talks about getting the beam out of our own eye before we look to remove a spec from someone elses... As for how you know that the supernatural realm is imaginary... What is your case for that? How did you come to that conclusion? Also, you are confusing definitions. Magic is real - magic is slight of hand, misdirection, and deception and we've all seen it done... and been fooled by it. The most common form of it was taught to you in school. It was 3 fold: secular humanism, naturalism, and Darwinian mythology, that you cannot give good reasons for believing. As for some of your other claims that you failed to argue for... _Just looking for attention? Just scoffing?_ Hey, I'm your huckleberry!
Quite the contrary I think..the supernatural realm provides the objective foundation & justifiable reasons for why reality even exists, why it is the way it is & why we are here in the first place. Its not avoiding reality, but reconciling reality in many ways.
I guess you're right on a few things though..we can't always reason when it comes to it & nor can we ultimately prove it to you. For its beyond our limited, imperfect senses and full comprehension..but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, not make sense or that we aren't still capable of trying to understand it with the beautifully gifted minds that we possess. And my first paragraph I hope can emphasize that.
Anyway..ultimately, you have to sincerely look for yourself & be open on the grounds of what points towards it rather than against it. To likewise be intellectually honest in actually caring about the truth and where it leads regardless if you don't like it or not. And then maybe you'll consider it a possibility or believe it one day.
May God be with you. (Regardless that you don't believe in Him)
@@oofydoom Here is the main flaw in your thinking. You assume that everyone is as incapable as you are at understanding reality. This is THE most common trait among Christians. Lack of knowledge leads them to poor conclusions, based on ignorance. I DO understand how the mind works. The alternate reality that you call the supernatural realm is created in the mind, and does not actually exist. God is an imagined entity. If you do not understand this,you are doomed to a lifetime of ignorance and worshiping that which you cannot comprehend. Unfortunately for you, there is almost no hope that you will recover from this kind of ignorance, because you have already decided that all knowledge that does not agree with your beliefs, must be false. This is supported by the bible telling you that this kind of knowledge is evil,, the work of Satan.. You are trapped inside an imagined reality by the very fact that you believe it is real. You will ignore truth. No, you will cast out truth in order to preserve your belief. That, my friend, is the curse of Christianity.
@@oofydoom Please explain the methodology you employ to detect, observe, and understand the "supernatural". Can you provide a few examples of phenomena that are 'supernatural'?
SAINT MICHAEL ARCHANGEL 09.02.2021
To Luz de Maria, Revelaciones Marianas (website and youtube)
Some people feel disappointed by the expectation to which the Church is subject, feeling their hope diminished in the face of the power of evil that is unfolding in the world. They forget, however, that God does not abandon His People and allows what has been announced to happen. That is to say: impiety, heresies, lack of respect for what God represents, sacrileges, future persecutions, plagues, diseases, war, famines, great earthquakes and effects of nature.
Why should we believe there ARE supernatural events? Especially when we have no examples of any.
Because of the evidence, known laws of physics, and your own belief that good and evil aren't just ideas that exist inside people's head-generated by little more than chemical reactions and electrical impulses-which cannot be either right or wrong, true or false. You know, for starters.
What kinda DISINGENUOUS QUESTION IS THAT 🤔😂
@@jessebryant9233 The known laws of physics are natural not supernatural. Good and evil are just labels we put on certain behaviour. Demonstrate that their is more than just chemicals and electrical impulses guiding us. Right and wrong are concepts WE developed. Did our earliest ancestors who lived in caves think it was wrong to kill or steal or rape? Truth is what comports with reality. Where does any god comport with reality?
@@justingary5322 Please explain why my question is disingenuous? Alternatively, give examples of verified supernatural events
@@colinmatts
Why you skipping over me, bra? Or did your comment get ghosted? That's been happening a lot lately, if you aren't already aware.
Would anyone like to discuss the demonstrable facts concerning the historicity of Jesus?
@ Denton Hahn. Hopefully this comment wont be removed. If so, I will not attempt anymore. So let's present the evidence ONE _demonstrable_ fact (stated in a complete sentence) at a time.
I would argue the historicity of Jesus is irrelevant, the only thing that truly matters when confirming the truth of Christianity is whether or not Jesus was actually a divine being. If that can't be reliably confirmed, belief in Christianity is pointless.
@@WintersunExtras Well, I would agree. Belief in Christianity is pointless.
@@theoskeptomai2535 nobody is censoring you, sometimes when you use certain offensive word UA-cam deletes them after 18 seconds, this happens to me alot too, looked it up in reddit
The organisms we study change with their environment because the information is within them.
The number of a given organisms population may increase or decrease, the traits of an organism may become more or less prominent with changes to it's environment, but the org. Continues to be a form of itself, so you have micro-changes but not macro-evolution. You have abilities or activities change but it's still in it's same phylum, etc.
If you look at it's record, you see varying representations of the same. During the Cambrian era they all came about at a relatively short span of time. That's why it's called the Cambrian explosion.
Even Darwin himself said his idea can't be proved without evidence and he hoped the future would yield some discovery.
It hasn't.
And the time required for randomness isn't there.
Also, the randomness would need to build the presence of all the needed traits.
There are no transitional life forms to exhibit this.
_Every_ lifeform is a transitional lifeform. Biological evolution is a perpetual process. Like all phenomena, biological lifeforms are always transitioning.
Have you ever taken a biology course?
@@theoskeptomai2535 I just watched a talk on this and it gives the statements of those who asserted the process.
Since the simplest form of life contains the evidence, you should watch it.
The record does not contain life forms that transition from one kind to another.
Darwin knew this and hoped some evidence of life in transition would be found.
It hasn't.
And the time for randomness just isn't there.
"The Explanatory Power and Hueristic Value of Intelligent Design"
UA-cam.
I noted how the functions of the building blocks for life are inherent within them and they interact.
Not by accident, but by intended process.
The information for the organism is in it's DNA.
It didn't write its own code. It's code cannot be altered except by reproduction with another organism the proginy would carry a modified version of the two.
Do that multiple times, as many as you like.
It won't change kind.
It will adapt or become extinct.
@Our Savior My comment is still there. I haven't erased it. Why are you lying so blatantly? What is that getting youm
@@theoskeptomai2535 hey Theo i don't see you comment anymore either if you go back and edit them they disappear you edit to much
@@deanadams4755 You don't see my comment that starts "Every lifeform is a transitional lifeform"?
Choose either. Yes or no anything else comes from. Evil
We know that the Old Testament, the Law and the Prophets, are accurate and truthful because Jesus Christ affirmed them as such.
No they're not and no he didn't.
The Old testament is a collection of stories compiled over hundreds of years. And who do you suppose listened to your Jesus and wrote down what he said?
How did you determine this Jesus ever existed?
@@theoskeptomai2535 historical texts.
@@ramptonarsecandle his followers… along with thousands of witnesses. The Old Testament talks much of Jesus. And Jesus established the law of God.
@@raymondhunter2401 Identify one _firsthand eyewitness account_ of this Jesus. Identify the document and this firsthand eyewitness author.
Keep in mind a firsthand eyewitness account is one where the author of the account a) identities his or herself, b) states that he or she personally witnessed such events, and 3) and provides a valid, accurate, and authentic account of these events.
So now, Identify such a firsthand eyewitness account.
Hi, can you explain why nowadays miracle of healing such as Jesus and his disciple which have authority from Jesus does not happened nowadays. Is there something going wrong with the Christians nowadays that cant perform that? Since Paul encourage people to explore and understand more of the Holy Spirit can do.
Good question, it's one I have often asked myself and the response I get from Christians in general (not all) is that such healings ARE happening today. Which would be great if it were true but the problem is, the stories they tell regarding these alleged miraculous healings are so vague that they cannot be either verified as actual divine healings or falsified as such.
I would have thought though that if such miracles happened and they could be confirmed that they would make front page news, and yet, there seems to be a decided lack of interest in them within the mainstream media and as a skeptic I have to ask myself why there is such a disinterest in something that would be so world changing unless there is a lot of doubt about the validity of the claims? 🤔 And this is what I am unfortunately inclined to believe, although I would love to be wrong.
@@JohnCashin Would you abandon the skeptic thought if nowadays came a person with such miracles and proclaiming that Jesus was and is God now and forever?
@@dreamers1782That's a fair question you ask and yes, after giving it some thought the answer is that it would certainly give me a good reason to review my position, sure, but what's interesting about today's society is that unlike back then, when Jesus (at least the historical one) was around, we will now have much bigger coverage of such a person and much greater scrutiny. For example, imagine what the alleged feeding of the five thousand would have been like on a raw UA-cam video, what would it have looked like if it were true? What would we have seen? Food appearing out of thin air into baskets? I don't know 🤔
All I know is the Jesus Christ of 2000 years ago didn't have UA-cam or any other social media that would follow him around, uploading either recorded or live videos of him saying and doing miraculous things. There were scribes back then who might have followed him and written down what he said and did, or at least, what they THOUGHT he said and did and there would have been a lot of second-hand information too.
Remember, it was mainly an oral tradition based culture back then, rather than just written, even though there was writing too, being a scribe was considered a 'skilled profession' back then, because not everyone could write, most people just talked, that is what they mostly depended on for info back then, word of mouth but it would take years before any writings that were done were selected and put together into one book and by then it was difficult (to say the least) to be sure how much of what was written about Jesus was accurate and how much if it might have been made up or exaggerated or the result of people just being mistaken and there is no way to properly check, unfortunately, it's too far back, all the alleged witnesses are loooooooong dead, so we either have to just trust the writtings or doubt them.
In today's world, however, it could be very easily checked, information like that would be ready to be seen in an instant. I mean, no sooner would Jesus speak today or do a miracle (if he really could) and news of it would be ALL around the world in minutes, you can imagine watching the news every day about him and it would make the top story, much bigger than Covid or the war in Ukraine, we're talking the BIGGEST story in the history of humankind "Divine Being Who Can Heal the Sick and Raise the Dead Walking on Earth", there might still be skeptics but there would be much less because there would be so many experts to confirm their power, doctors, scientists, investigative journalists, you name it. Thanks.
Such events in the Bible were always for the purpose of demonstrating that one was a prophet or confirming the words of a prophet. We have no such prophets today. The revelation of God is complete (the canon of scripture) and thus there is no need for them.
@@jessebryant9233 So how do these scriptures _demonstrate_ that this god revealed any truth through prophesy?
How smart could the kids be if they're wearing a mask outside
at 10 minutes and 6 seconds, why do people keep thinking the Multiverse theory is somehow at odds with a Creator? why do we somehow think that we are so sure that a Creator could not create or exist if a multiverse exits? God is not limited by what we perceive of what we call the universe or how many different universes there are for that matter.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 harder to buy? Why? Because we don't understand? It doesn't hurt us at all.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 God is never limited by how big He creates or does not create. Nor is He limited by science.
Correct. One key reason it seems the multiverse was suggested is to account for fine tuning. Of course the theory comes with its own problems including Boltzmann brains and pink unicorn planets. The huge complexity involved puts it at riak of Occam's razor and still does not remove God who could easily create whatever universes He wants from outside the multiverses.
Multiversal theory isn't evidence of anything but a Creator who recycles Creation into various other forms that's all m It shows a lack of creativity.
How did you come to conclude there is a creator? What do you assert this 'creator' created?
The idea of agnostic, or searching, reminds me of Allis in the Wonder Land, when she comes to the fork in The road an don't know what way to go. The Cheshire cat said, where do you want to go? She said, it really doesn't matter. The cat said then I guess then it doesn't really matter! Where there is no vision the people perish. We are all going somewhere, be sure you know where!
Really? You're claiming you read the book yet you can't even spell the title? Priceless.
The title is "Alice in Wonderland"
And you're going nowhere pal except down. 🤦♂🤦♂
@@ramptonarsecandle yes when I was a child 25- 30 years so it has been a while. I ask you a question, you didn't respond, you ask for "contemporary evidence" I ask you what way are you using the word contemporary?
@@dentonhahn2907 Wait, you're not a child? Damn I thought you were about 14 from your diction and grammar. You must be the product of the American education system or is English not your first language? Apologies if it isn't.
When you use the term "contemporary evidence" that means evidence occurring at or close to the time of the event recorded by reliable sources.
That's why your bible isn't considered evidence as it's a collection of stories and nothing more. Basically nothing in is true, in case you didn't know.
@@ramptonarsecandle funny thing is I was thinking maybe you were a teenager 😁. Actually I am on my phone and reply between working, so if spelling, and punctuation off quite sorry. Yes it, can also mean evidence of our time...look it up. But you say contemporary of Jesus, so what is your problem with the four Jewish writers and the accounts of eyewitness? What is your evidence that the bible is just stories? Your do realize if that is what you base all your history on, you wipe out most worlds history.
@@dentonhahn2907 I'm hardly likely to be asking for latter day evidence for Jesus am I?
I presume you're talking about the Gospels? They are not contemporary and they most certainly are not eyewitness accounts.
If you actually knew your gospels you would know it's actually stated in Luke that they are not eyewitnesses but the stories had been handed down. And remember your bible is the claim and not the evidence.
As for my evidence for the bible being stories - are you being serious? Please tell me you realise Adam & Eve and Noah and Moses are all just stories? The Museum of History in Israel has acknowledged that there is no historical record of a mass exodus of Jews from Egypt. The story of Moses leading the Jews out of Egypt simply never happened.
And no history would be wiped out because we have evidence for real history we have nothing for your bible.
Pretty much the entire book is a story, from memory there a bit in Acts that is based on truth, the rest is made nonsense.
I disagree with faith having anything to do with intellect. Faith is believing in something you cannot see. Intellectually thats stupid.
I love your discourse and the responses, however I disagree with Stewart’s statement towards the end of the video that to come to the Bible first and then believe is laughable. That caught me way off and perhaps you didn’t mean it or just spoke quickly, however, that statement is laughable in sight of Gods word. God has said that his word is a double edged sword separating soul and spirit, His word is alive and certainly was the crux of my salvation, a young guy with no prior knowledge of the gospel. The Bible when I read it provided a worldview and explanation that fit in with the world around me, sin, and the nature of man made incredible sense, and further more the grace and redemption of mankind amazed me. That God would save us, a wicked and fallen creation, all of which I was led by conviction as well. You can’t throw out the Bible as a sole means of finding God. I’m glad we have so many resources and tools to see God in a great way from philosophy to science, however Gods word is sufficient, that’s why we have it. The gospel, the entire Bible, is Gods written revelation of himself to us, and it is certainly enough to call an unbeliever to salvation, because as you know, it’s not just a book. It’s alive, it’s truth, it changes lives, not some book written by men, but the literal inspired word of God. Carrying the message of salvation. Great vid tho, and interested if that is your stance on the Bible, is the Bible and its message sufficient alone to bring people to salvation?
God also said he was sorry he had made humans. So sad.
It's sad to hear him say "You can't just open the Bible and believe . Thats laughable ." For I say It's the greatest way to start and thats spiritual. Amen!! Thank you Jesus.
Are staying that one can simply _choose_ to believe that which one is not convinced?
@@theoskeptomai2535 If I write you a letter and you never opened it , how could you know my truths and knowledge within me?Amen !?!
@@SaintStrainYT Was there anything preventing you from answering the _actual_ question I asked. Here it is again:
Are you stating that one can simply _choose_ to believe that which one is not convinced? Yes or no.
@@theoskeptomai2535 I did answer . Although you live in the world so when I speak heavenly things you can't understand. Read the Holy Bible every day !!! Start in Mark read threw to Revelations. The Devil convinces in lies . The Lord Jesus reveals in truth . Truth is in the Holy Bible . You must read his letter to you and form a relationship with Jesus Holy Spirit the helper. May peace be with you.
@@SaintStrainYT Can you explain this verse;
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)
Stuart Cliff you wouldn't believe this if it was written in any order mythology you believe through faith and not evidence every debate you've ever done confirms this
SALVATION IS ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST 🙌 John 14:6 kjv
And your evidence is???
@@ramptonarsecandle Do you want to get SAVED?
@@larzman651 saved? By who or what?
I asked for evidence not salvation.
@@ramptonarsecandle Saved by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ
@@larzman651 now you’re being silly, no such person existed. Amusing though.
Think of the tree next to you taking in all the pollution and then through the night giving out clean air.
Wonderful natural process.
@@DRayL_
And necessary! So, just how many happy little accidents are you willing to blindly believe just turned out that way... before you start to question the odds or take into account empirical observations in nature that show that what you believe has happened in the past... never happens in the present?
Think about about sun giving some people skin cancer... or people starving because of famine. They must not believe in the right god so f them right?
@@jessebryant9233 I specifically told you to _stop_ replying to me or referring to me to others. Please have some courtesy.
@@DRayL_
You don't like getting called out and embarrassed then? If I were you, I'm sure I'd feel the same! You have your naturalistic faith that you cling to dogmatically and cannot make a positive case FOR-and that's that! Okay, suit yourself! (Proverbs 1:22)
Why doesn’t Stuart believe there was a flood? It’s literally in the bible
We know a watch has a designer because we can actually go to a watch maker or manufacturer and see them make the watch. You can't say the same thing for the universe. Also, anyone from any religion can say the same thing.."i see order and design in the universe therefore my (insert any god here) created it.
@Our Savior Why don't you present the argument then? State your premises that lead to your conclusion and we can discuss it.
@Our Savior You saying god created the universe is just about as rational as someone else saying unicorns created the universe. It is absolutely not the most rational conclusion. You have to demonstrate that there is a designer before you can say it was created by a designer.
@Our Savior I am starting to think you're not mentally sound. I simply asked you to present your argument. Go ahead and cower away from doing so. I am so used to it now.
@@furgleburgle6163 I am a little sad for you. Do you actually believe that equivocating between God and unicorns is even vaguely proper?
You have made a fundamental error in reasoning. Here's why. God is generally defined as being timeless, spaceless, immaterial, personal and powerful.
Exactly none of those attributes are attributed to unicorns.
Basically, you just told a joke that no one gets.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 There's no error in my reasoning. Someone can easily make a claim about a unicorn being timeless, spaceless etc the same way you did with your god. That's a cool story and all, but you actually have to DEMONSTRATE its truthfulness. And don't feel sad for me -- leaving my religion was the best thing that ever happened to me. I am not a slave to a book written my bronze aged peasants. I can actually think for myself now.
Actually the Resurrection of christ WAS the repeat proving it. Christ raised several people from the dead before witnessesand before he was crucified, so when he was resurrected it was no surprise that he'd be able to raise himself after raising the others!
Who wrote something like that they would much rather talk to a scientist than a Christian...some words to that effect. I can't find it right now. That would be a fun topic to explore.
I'd love to converse with many of the early pioneers of various branches of science.... most of whom were Christians! 😃
@@jessebryant9233 Also, they were not Christian as a label but truly Christian. Quotations from them attest to this as they describe the marvelous world God created and its infinite complexity and perfection. Atheists will claim that the scientists only "said" they were Christians to stay out of trouble. Wrong. These scholars were highly tied to God in their thinking.
Even today, over 80% of Nobel Laureates are believers even though scientists, in general, are over 90% nonbelievers.
@@jessebryant9233 Are you suggesting the religious affiliation of certain scientists is evidence of the god in which they believe?
@@jessebryant9233 Well are you?
@@billyholly
Proving yet again that while the atheists love to claim they don't have "faith" at all, they are willing to believe literally ANYTHING so long as it provides them with some sort of excuse. Would be funny if it were not so tragic.
The bible says some people dont want to believe. You can argue, "I see a painting, therefore I know there was a painter." And they say, Nope.
We all have experienced through observation that painters produce paintings. Have you ever personally witnessed any phenomenon (object, event, substance, entity, process, system, or being) to have been created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously pop into existence by the sole volition of a god?
Well have you?
The Bible does say that... And Theo Skeptomai is one of them! Here daily trolling this channel with religious zeal! He HATES the God of the Bible and fears Him for good reason! (John 3:19-20, Hebrews 9:27, 10:31) Ask him to explain why, something infinitely more complex than a painting doesn't require a Creator, and he won't be able to tell you. No, he's a simpleton who thinks that, had he never seen a person painting a picture-he'd assume that paintings simply arise by chance! Clearly he is a fool to the highest degree... and fears thinking critically at all. [smh]
Not to mention that his own faith requires two physical impossibilities: 1. That the universe has always existed, or 2. That the universe magically popped into existence out of nothing, uncaused. This is what I mean when I say that cynics NEVER think critically about their own position or the implications of their own "lack of belief." It really is pathetic and sad. Such foolery.
Give Me an Answer - Why Should We believe That There _Are_ No Supernatural Events?
I think that is a better way to phrase the question that is more grammatically correct.
For me,...I'm quite willing to see an actual "supernatural event". I hope I do! Honestly! But I've yet to see one, so until then, I have to be honest on the topic and question the veracity of "supernatural claims". I know people make claims of this sort, but without actual verifiable evidence to back it up, it isn't useful for me.
Just to be clear, you will only accept a supernatural event that YOU witness?
Those who are determined to misunderstand will.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 It would help....because people are often duped,...even their own self. People can say something and others will just believe what they say. If I witnessed something myself, that would take the component of "the potential fraud" out of the equation.
@@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe Misunderstand what...and whom are you referring to?
Devon.. to be clear, you do not trust someone else's testimony to their experience because why? They could have made a mistake or lied or be mentally unstable or on drugs or ??? But you would trust your own internal witness that your mind was not deluded or under some stress or illness of some sort or subject to some trick of the light? That is, how would you verify what you personally saw was real and not illusion?
Jesus is coming soon! Accept Him as your Lord and Savior, Repent and turn away from your sin and start to follow Him! 🕊
No one, not even Cliffe can detect the supernatural. The supernatural has more in common with things that don't exist, than anything else.
How do you know that? And what do you mean by "detect"? What is your worldview and why should I believe whatever it is that you do?
Eeeeeither you are with Christ truth way light holy righteous or you not
I appreciate Cliff but he focuses too much on reason and logic. I prefer prophetic, Spirit lead evangelism. When you pray for someone and they get healed or you give them a prophetic word that nobody but God knew, you'll have their full attention. I don't try to get people to believe in God but to follow and experience Him.
"...a prophetic word that nobody but God knew..."
How would you ever know that?
I actually appreciate the fact that you're honest about what you want to see/hear from these people. Usually, believers will pay lip service to the importance of reason and evidence, but their actions directly oppose them. At least you have the guts to reveal what I expect most religious people's attitudes are.
You don't care about well-reasoned, well-supported ideas, you don't want reliable evidence for your claims, you don't have any interest in how to accurately describe reality, you just want to hear the things that make you feel warm and fuzzy. Which is fine if that's how you want to live, but you can't claim it has anything to do with real truth.
God didn’t create evolution, Darwin created that theory.
It’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of YHWH. We will all die one day. Just keep that in mind to all those who don’t believe. God desires that nobody perishes. So choose life!
Prophecy is happening. Amen.
Have you ever observed this 'YHWH'?
@@theoskeptomai2535
Stuck in your naturalistic and dogmatic faith, and demand that others views be demonstrated to you naturally... which of course would mean they are not supernatural? Of course you are! Your philosophical bias is showing... As is your radical inconsistency. You've never tested your naturalistic faith. No, you just... believe! Silly cynic.
These kids at the University of Texas need Christ probably more than the average college student. Maybe that's my opinion because I went to Texas A&M. ..
AMEN I really appreciate brother Cliffe Knechtle's Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ ❤️👊. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
Just about everything you just said is wrong.
For instance a Holocaust in 1948? Nope.
Your god existing? Nope.
Same for your other imaginary friend Jesus.
Stay in school kid.
Mindless and baseless assertions and nothing more.
@@chesterparsnip Ok AND 😂
@Our Savior How so? I have a mind and good reasons to believe what I do. You don't
@Our Savior Ok sorry I didn't know dude it wasn't clear to me
Neville Goddard defeated you easy, the Spiritual fact laughs at churches, Imagination is the oldest truth by one power, worries are specialist fearing death, your stuck in times demands, God in man you can't believe, still looking outside yourselves is classic christians beliefs. People die every day you think you the only ability to fear dust.
12:38 Evolution and God do not go hand on hand. God tells us in Genesis that He infact did not use evolution, but created everything made that has been made. There is not a single instance of a living created thing becoming another living created thing. Monkeys do not become humans. Fish do not become monkeys. Bacteria do not become multi-celled organisms.
Show me a supernatural event that has no natural explanation.
Because there is absolutely no evidence for it.
To the people who says He doesn't exist which in fact He does, then give up all yours dreams and hopes of your life, quit your job, take off your clothes, give everything you own away and go to the desert in complete isolation naked and sit there without food and water or shelter. Then tell yourself you don't exist.
Your mythical friend Jesus doesn't nor has ever existed. If you're so confident he did then show us the evidence. Show us the evidence that no person in all of history has ever come up with or just delete your crass comment, your call.
@@ramptonarsecandle Your very existence and your death is and will be very evident. And when you meet Him after you die, you would've wished you looked passed your own pride and foolishness. But it'll be too late for you by then. Choose wisely.
WHAT!?!. Can you present _any_ evidentiary fact that goes toward demonstrating the existence of a god? Either you can or you can't. Which is it?
@@ralphangel561 evidence or go away. Evidence or your comment is just empty rhetoric.
@@ramptonarsecandle Give evidence if he doesn't exist.
But no historical evidence of Jesus being God. What about the holy spirit
Uhm... The Bible?
@@jessebryant9233 Are you stating the bible is historic evidence of this Jesus being a god?
If anything, following the commandments of men would be to follow Sola Scriptura and have the protestant opinion be the final authority on principles of doctrine. Believe you are made in the image and likeness of God, know the words image and likeness from the culture and practices they were taken from. Believe Jesus Christ has a Father, not a immaterial completely other spirit that He declares He does the will of. Know the definition of the word Father from Abrahamic culture from such passages as Genesis 22: 1-13, Romans 8: 14-18, and Revelation 3: 21, with these passages follow the full linguistic context of the words not what men add to them out of their pride and deception toward ease and separation from God. Righteous works are a strength to those who seek them, do not in this deny God. Matthew 5: 19, Matthew 7: 24-27. (Please read all these scriptural references and put together their purpose from the Spirit of them.)
Have you ever observed either this father god or Jesus the son?
@@theoskeptomai2535 I have observed the effects of the Father and Jesus. There are many things that effect us we don't see like the wind, spirit, and our neurons firing but we see their effects.
@@boltrooktwo We can OBSERVE the wind and neurons. I asked have you ever observed this god or Jesus.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Much of our biology is too small to be visible. At best you have probably seen an image or a computer rendering that is a guess. Things can be believed in by their effect, their merit, and the direction they take humanity. My answer to your question is yes, I have observed God the Father and Jesus there are many things observable about them.
Cliff: God is real - I doubt him all the time …. OK - that’s not very convincing 🤔
One should not believe a claim of a supernatural event until when (or if) there is sufficient reason to believe it. I'm not saying that there are no supernatural events or miracles , but I think such events would be very rare ( if at all) and belief should be withheld until there is good evidence.
Should one withhold belief when it comes to supposed naturalistic events? I'm thinking of the 3 core doctrines of the naturalistic faith: Big Bang cosmology, abiogenesis, and of course, Darwinian evolutionism. _Are you a believer? If so, why?_ But for sure, miracles are by definition, rare.
@@jessebryant9233 I don't know man. Those everyday, mundane miracles are awesome.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416
You mean like the circulation system? Blood filtering? Eating and digestion? Cognitive thought process and actions? The fact that the energy we need is available through the environment/food? Symbiotic relationships? ... Recognizing right from wrong and good from evil? _Stuff like that?_
@@jessebryant9233 mmm hmmm
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416
Oh, c'mon man! That stuff just magically turned out that way after a few billion years of mindless nature doing experiments! Everybody knows that, ya big dolt! 🤪😉
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