My parents had one of these back in the early 90's (when they were cheap because of the whole unintended acceleration debacle, come to think of it - it could've been the late 80's), in later years there was another one in the extended family, but even though we have a history with these cars - I've never heard of this version.
I’ve said it before…reviews of vehicles like this are so much more interesting than the over-hyped super cars. As for the 5000, when it first came out, the design was a revelation. My mom really wanted one when new. The unintended acceleration issue was a sad story for the brand…took a long time to recover.
I owned a 1978 Audi 5000 (introductory year) in the early 2000s, it truly was an innovative vehicle. The options it had were crazy for a 70's car. I still wish I had it today as it was a very low mileage manual trans car
What’s funny is why their cars had unintended acceleration, it’s because Audi mounted the pedals in the opposite direction, so people who were used to driving other cars would get in one, go to hit the brakes, but instead they’d hit the gas and… yeah that’s where it gets sad. Just be happy it was only 6 deaths and not 37 like what happened to Toyota from 2009 to 2011.
Was this acceleration thing real in the end or just operator error? Just seems odd it was the Americans only that had the issue. Here in NZ they were called 100, or 200 Turbo. I have owned both and to be honest couldn’t understand what the yanks were in about
@@angusnz7910 it mostly affected shorter people and the pedals are flipped for gas and brakes compared to other cars, I assume in New Zealand the pedal direction wasn’t changed so it’s probably normal there.
For German speakers: there's a great interview with Walter Treser on the Alte Schule UA-cam channel. I didn't expect to find this car on your, an American, channel - well done!
Walter Treser was the head of Audi Sport during the years where Quattro was developed. He later went on to become one of the premier aftermarket Audi Tuners. Sadly he passed away at the end of last year aged 81. Nice find Doug. Uber-Rare Car.
@@nedudki While it's interesting to hear it didn't sell for a while (I Guess "Treser" isn't as known on the US Market as obviously here in Germany) I don't see what your comment has to do with the History of Walter Treser and the fact that he sadly passed away last year and that the Car is rare. That said, Rare doesn't mean "easy to sell" in every country. Here in Germany this would sell immediately and easily, i guess in the USA it doesn't Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
Having driven a '89 Audi 100 for 7 years, I can only say that these are extremely well built cars, on par with Mercedes models of the era imo. There were some mechanical problems, for instance a leaky power steering system, but overall, these cars are rock solid with bullet proof 5 cylinder engines. Unfortunately, Doug didn't mention the engine that much nor the beautiful sound it produces, talking all the way while it's rumbling in the background :) Would love to drive one again. Btw, Doug: Treser is pronounced 'Treeeser' with a long first E. - Also remarkable that this one is sporting the Euro-Spec headlights and does not seem to have any sidemarkers at all...
@@PantherP74 Yes, that's why 89' rr flatcars were invented. - Ok, might have to change the year abbreviation from 89' to '89 I guess :D Model year 1990 is what I mean, you know :D But believe me, for european standards, a car of this length sure felt close to 89 feet. In addition, my car had a hitch fitted which made matters even worse. Luckily, there was much glass to see through and my car was the Avant model. So you could kinda guess where the car ended.
German here, true about how to pronounce Treser, but i think Doug is already going way beyond how to pronounce German Names and Word compared to most other American Car Reviewers. But for those who want to have an easy way to pronounce Treser correctly try: "Dre" like in "Dr. Dre" but "Tre" and then "sair" Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
@@audiman-gr5gn Yep same here. Fixing it for the 3rd time just wasn't gonna happen for me.... but the car lives on to this day and has been partially restored by the new owner :)
Fascinating review of this very rare Treser Audi. The picture of that raised Treser for off road with the spare wheel mounted on the rear would be extremely rare and wonder if any have survived?
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Well Doug this totally brings me back! I went from my Grandfathers 1965 International Harvester pick up truck, to my Uncles Audi 5000 CS Quattro Turbo because sadly he passed on because of Cancer just after purchasing it. You may think it was under powered, but for the day it wasn’t at all. I had so much fun in that car at speed and I also got in big trouble in that car. My father was a well-known lawyer in the town of grew up in and the hardest walk I had at 18 was on a Sunday morning to the breakfast table. After saying hello to him he looked at me and said what’s wrong? I said, ‘Dad I need your help’ and he said sternly, ‘what did you do?’ I said, ‘Dad I need your professional help’. The look of disappointment on his face said it all, but ‘Car Family’, this was the Triple Digit kind of Trouble, The kind when the Police Officer approached the window and said, ‘You know you were going so fast I was about ready to give up’! Yes, I got in serious trouble And in reflecting on it years later that Police Officer probably saved my life. A solid case of young, inexperienced and very lucky. Yes, the car was taken away and God I miss that thing even today!
Treser also modified VWs at the time. My uncle had Passat vr6 from treser, it had 240bhp instead of standard 174bhp. Acceleration 0-60 was just 6 seconds which was absolutely amazing for a salon car back then. He sold it shortly after purchasing it as gear box was constantly beaking down due to high engine power.....
Nice car. The front wheels with the turbine design are reversed, the back wheels are good, but the front wheels has to be changed once against the other, then it is fine 🙂 very special car though
I’m a big fan of Audis of the 80’s. My friend had a 5000 in high school in this very same color. This Treser treatment I don’t feel it brings the best out of the original 5000 as it makes the overhangs look even longer on a FWD platform. Good catch about the wheels
This same thing happened with cheap econoboxes too like the Proton Satria Neo. It had directional wheels and most don't give a damn about the placement.... just being cheap and throwing them on randomly.
When I was a kid my folks had a 1985 Audi 5000 Diesel. We did some big road trips from Oregon back to the mid west, it had a exceedingly comfortable ride on the highway. That car was solid and never quit, and was eventually passed on to my nephew who drove it in high school and beyond.
Audi was/is in our family since the 1980s...my parents had a couple, I had 2, but never heard of Treser... Thank you, Mr. Demuro... That's the content I subscribed for... Not the lame cross over and super car reviews
I love stuff like this! I’d love to see an Isuzu impulse, a Mazda mx3, a Nissan nx2000, Mitsubishi starion, early 90s fleetwood, there’s so so many weird cars in the 80s and 90s ! I love it
140 HP? WOW, did CARB choke that thing. The 5000 (US legal crap) is really a 200 turbo and it should produce 220 HP stock, it easily maxed out at 250 km/h in its day and was definitely not slow.
In 1991 the US got the 20v 5 cylinder with over 200hp. Before that we had the 10v in the 5000 and 200 with up to 170hp in the MC1/2 and 1B/2B code motors
CARB (stands for California Air Resources Boarr) only has jurisdiction over cars registered in the state of California. California will not allow registration of any car not federalized with an non OEM engine after the 1975 model year. Additionally, federalized cars were required to have a catalytic converter emissions system not yet required in Europe at this time. The US spec federalized cars were severely restricted on emissions. In 1985 even US cars were just now creeping up in horsepower numbers after car manufacturers were still just figuring out how to make power without running afoul of US emissions laws.
I think its more to this than just emissions. This car is clearly an automatic and i dont think Audi offered automatics in the 5000/100/200 on the more powerful engines (or quattro).
@@conor7154 well the ferrari testarossa which was the fastest production car for a short time (untill the porche 959) only had 390hp and i believe it needed 4.9 seconds to go from 0 to 60. I owned an 89 Nissan 240sx turbo in the 90s. It only had 170hp but it felt fast as shit to me back then. To be fair: It only weighed 1100 kilograms. A modern vw golf is MUCH heavier
Nice to see '80s Audi love on here. I started my VW addiction with the rebadged B2 Passat equivalent "Quantum Syncro Wagon" so it wouldn't compete with Audi's Quattro sedan. I always wanted to drop a 200 turbo in, but I almost made the mistake of trying to stuff a TDI into it. I can still hear the hiss of the vacuum when locking the differentials 🤠 That is a vehicle worth doing just for going over quirks & features
Here in Italy I used to own an Audi 100 back in early 90’s, as my first car. I bought it used for really cheap, depreciation was huge already for big sedans. Among my friends, all license fresh like me, it was a hell of a car and it stood up compared to their Fiat Panda and Ford Fiesta. I was the hero of my gang and I was always driving all the girls around! 😉
Audi dashboard with wood grain and the leather seats were very nice. I wanted to buy an Audi but they were not as reliable during late 80's as we thought Honda were. All the cars back then had springy seats and the better ones had wonderful supple leather
I bought an Audi 5000 in Germany in 1985--red. Drove it up and down the autobahn at high speeds. Loved the car. Took it back to the states. It was a terrific car until it started to need some repairs, then then US based Audi dealers screwed me several times over. Never had business with Audi ever since.
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@@jjlegend3922 He said that some time ago, his statement was true. And he was talking about the views on videos of older cars in *relation* to videos of newer cars.
I watched this review with particular interest because I was a tech at a VW/Audi dealer from 1973 to 1987. I can't comment on this car as I know nothing about it. In general terms the 1984 to 1986 5000 series were the most troublesome and should be avoided. For the 1987 model year, Audi finally got it right. These truly were very good cars along with the 1988s. The 1987 normally aspirated Quattro was the the overall champ though. No turbo issues and a trouble free drive line. My customers loved them. The climate control was a constant source of problems in the early cars along with the sun roof. The turbo cars suffered drivability problems throughout. Audi paid for a one time only carbon blast on all turbocharged 5000s. We sold a lot of them so I became quite proficient at doing them. This procedure transformed the car. Carbon build up on the valves was a serious issue and Golf/Jetta vehicles were also affected. The rubber boot covering the fuel lines on this car indicates having the recall to prevent engine fires. We had to do this on every turbo car we sold. As for the 5 cylinder engine, they are bulletproof. I only saw two engine replacements during my time. One was caused by owner neglect and one from overheating. This engine will tolerate all kinds of abuse and it's the one thing you shouldn't worry about. I wish the owner good luck on his sale but buyer beware.
As a former owner of a Volvo 850 and a Mercedes 190D 2.5… I agree!!! Admittedly the diesel Merc did just sound like a tractor, but the Volvo has a lovely growl, even in non-turbo form.
My dad had a Audi 5000 in the late 80s and it spent a lot time in shop. It was an absolutely a beautiful car in its time; especially, in the red color he had.
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Treser is very known here in Switzerland, he was successful in the '82-'95. One can immediately recognise here the modified 100 CS model. Also important to say that Audi has never been compared to Saab. Its direct concurrence was BMW and Lancia (yes: lancia) when comparing typology and pricings. We were a vw/audi dealer family and this audi 100 reminds great times.
My dad bought an Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro new in 87, just before I turned 4 years old. I remember him talking about these and how cool they were. I wish I had the chance to drive one since the regular turbo quattro was so much fun. My dad kept that car as an extra car for years and I took my driver's license test in it, the tester was impressed with how well I drove manual 😁, and I drove it for the first several months I had my license before getting a Saab 900 convertible. Great find, love seeing reviews on something like this!!! The turbo had a boost gauge on that computer but it only read in bar. Also the rear seats had heated seats as an option but there wasn't a switch for them, they worked off the front switches. If the fronts were on and there was over 50 lbs in the rear seat they would turn on. You could really freak people out because almost nobody had been in a car with heated seats back then.
Around 10 years ago I owned an audi 5000, and 10 years before that my dad owned one. I don't have a single memory of the sunroof opening on either. The drive train seemed solid on both cars, but electronics not so much.
Yeah...blah blah blah blah! The Audi 100/200 was a big car at that era in the late 80' early 90'... at least here in Europe. The Audi 5000 was bigger than Mercedes E-Class or BMW 5 Series competitors. And it's still not "small" compared to todays cars of its class. Look how much space Doug has on the rear seats! This was the biggest advantage of the front drive Audis at that time.
@@Porsche1969 relax, I think you totally misunderstood my comment.. this Audi might even be a limo compared to BMWs and Mercs and Rolls and whatever.. for what I care, I just said that it’s funny to see how Doug looks very big or very small when standing near old or modern cars 🤷🏻
I had several 5000s. I remember the Tresser specials too! They were the things of car magazine dreams although I did see one in 1990. These cars were so durable, Chinese automakers decided to buy rights to the body shell and suspension, and swiftly began producing them with puny 4 cylinder crappy engines. Those chinese "Type 44" cars were not real good to drive, but they clocked millions of miles over and over for chinese owners. These cars also never rusted, they were wax-filled unibodies with wax undercoating everywhere.
This is, in fact, something I have never heard of. But goddamn those wheels and that styling. This thing looks S I C K. How unfortunate that it didn't get any extra power, though. How unfortunate.
I remember when people were suing Audi for ghost acceleration issues, they changed the name from 5000 to 100 in North America. It turned out to be the mats getting stuck under the accelerator, or at least that’s what they said….
@@PoplinsGarage - the Quantum / Passat (so did versions of the 4000 / 80 - 90) used the Audi 2.1L I5 as the larger bodied Audis. Do believe the smaller US-spec engine was the 1.8L I4.
Walter Treser is my great-uncle. Fascinating man my grandfather used to tell me stories about all the fun they used to have in his project cars. Got the chance to meet him once at an event our family hosted. Was too young at the time to realize I should’ve been asking questions. Wish I did while he was still here. Doug, you gotta review a Treser T1 Roadster if you ever get that chance! That would be absolutely incredible.
Beautiful car, me and my friends have always loved these or 100s as they were in europe. My friend at one point had 3 or 4 of them. My earliest memory is that my grandfather had a perfect mint 100 in dark blue and with the 2,3 inline 5 engine, loved that car. He i think had it the longest he has ever owned a car too, i was very sad when he sold it. Overall a beautiful thing and this Treser is the ephitamy of 80s cyberpunk looks, love it!
The SAAB 9000, introduced to the U.S. in 1986, had a Saab branded electronic climate control installed. Felt luxurious and futuristic and also worked pretty well. I owned 3 9000's in my life and loved every one. Each made it over 150,000 miles, with 2 well over 200,000 miles.
A top trim Saab 9000 dash did literally look like an aircraft cockpit. Buttons, lights and LED displays galore! So much more fun than the single touchscreen you get today.
In hip hop, we would say "i'm audi 5000" or "i'm audi 5" meaning the person was about to leave. I had no idea until today that Audi 5000 was an actual model. Good job Doug
Here's your "The More You Know" moment" for the day. In addition to catching fire, Audi vehicles of this time, would on occasion accelerate rapidly without notice. This slang term is actually an adaptation of an earlier slang word "outtie". With that being said. I'm Audi 5000 G!!
Weird that he didn’t mention that. Also the fact that this lux car only had a 3 speed auto. The entire engine was actually ahead of the front axle coupled to the trans that distributed power for the Quattro system. That explained the very forward placement and large front overhang. Also made for some crazy understeer and push combined with the Quattro system.
This car has Mercedes Benz Cosworth 190e 2.3 16v vibes in the styling and color. Even the vents in the C pillar. Probably not too many people would see the similarities. Only true car enthusiasts would notice something like that.
I had a 5000cs 2.2 turbo Quattro (all black 5 speed) back in high school. Around 2002. Probably the best car I have ever had even to this day!! Insane awd.
The reason is the same dealer which is selling it (their name and phone number are on the rear plate shown) did put it for sale on CARS & BIDS. Doug, who is a PARTNER of that site, is now reviewing select cars that come to the site as complement for his new car reviews. Smart business move and totally acceptable.
Weird that he didn’t mention one of the biggest quirks…the entire engine was actually ahead of the front axle coupled to the trans that distributed power for the Quattro system. That explained the very forward placement and large front overhang. Also made for some crazy understeer and push combined with the Quattro system. Also the fact that this lux car only had a 3 speed auto where a garden variety Camry had a 4 speed
Yep. My parents bought one of these in the wake of the scandal for cheap, I think it was around 3000 dollars for a car that was two or three years old at the time.
The worst part is that audi never did what they should've done and sued CBS/60 Minutes for defamation and slander the same way GM did too NBC in 1993 after dateline aired a 100% fake "expose" about the "safety" of the '74-'87 C/K pickup line. The case that 60 minutes featured in their story eventually went to trial and the jury ruled in audi's favor saying that the fault for the "wrongful death" of the six year old boy who died laid entirely on his mother who was driving the car when the accident happened.
My first car was an '85 Audi 5000s turbo. Absolutely loved that car, but the white aluminum door handles were a nightmare in cold climates (which is surprising since they are German.) I had two just snap off in extreme cold temps. It's really unfortunate about the unintended acceleration nonsense, but maybe it made Audi that much better because they had to overcome that public perception. I had a 2015 A8L until a few years ago, and it was interesting to look at all the improvements Audi made in the 30 years between my car's model years.
I've gotta say, I'm EXTREMELY disappointed that the Doug score portion of the video has been neutered down and no longer includes Doug's thoughts and reasoning for each score given. I think that was a terrible mistake likely made for the sole purpose of an easier production for each video. I can tell you it absolutely ruins the end of each and every video for me.
So cool that you feature this car. I was at Treser in Ingolstadt a couple of times to collect customer cars that where either serviced or modified after they left the factory from Audi near by. The black rear lights where a must have for any Audi driver in the glorious 80s. 😊😊😊
Man, i've been following you for some years, and have seen so many of your videos, and still no get bored of you reviews. But Gooooood, i hate how you are doing the DOUG SCORE now!!!!! The old way where you were explaining why is that score and so was the best. Couldn t watch a video without seeing it. Common, come back to the old way. THIS IS THE WAY!! Everybody, let's convince doug to do the doug score right again.
Had to watch this. Audi 100 was my very first car back when I lived in Europe, and it was amazing. Mine was manual though. My love for cars started from this old jewel.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Audi unintended acceleration fiasco. I feel like it's one of the more egregious examples of hit piece journalism gone awry. The 60 Minutes special which brought the whole thing about isn't easily found these days and I think most people know why. I'm glad Audi persevered but it was the kind of bad press that has killed smaller brands.
"Sudden" acceleration? I would have been happy to have ANY acceleration in the '85 5000s wagon (ahem, Avant) and then later 1990 100 Avant. Misunderstood by the public and mechanics alike I believe these models introduced the concept of euro luxury car depreciation. Both my Avants were bought as used super-bargains, and with a young family I really appreciated that! Used OE parts were cheap and plentiful too since due to massive depreciation even minor wrecks were parted out.
In the last few weeks Doug usually pulled a "Top List" (formerly on "More Doug DeMuro") from his garage to upload on Sundays. This auction review replaced that this week.
I worked as a Tech for a Audi, VW, Subaru dealership. Audi 5000, 4000 were high priced junk. Electrical nightmares. Then there was the engine speed surge while stopped at idle. These models gave Audi such a bad reputation they started from scratch.
I've been through an Audi 5000 pretty much completely thanks to some mice who thought the wire insulation was a tasty snack. There weren't that much electronics in them, especially compared to anything modern. I didn't find it at all challenging to repair or diagnose--though I do remember seeing some high current wires and connectors were rather undersized and started to overheat even before the mice got to it... The heated seat wires were the worst if I remember. That was kind of sketch. Those got upgraded substantially. The mechanical fuel injection on the other hand--and the hydraulic brake booster/suspension leveling... Those caused a wee bit of head scratching. 🤯 I would hazard to guess that whatever surge issue existed was probably caused by a mechanic who monkied on and didn't understand the mechanical injection system. If you read on the unintentional acceleration / surge issue, ABC had to modify the car to do it, and it's pretty clear they were just out to kill AUDIs reputation for some unknown reason. For one, the brakes were way more powerful than the engine, and could easily stall the torque converter at any RPM. Tested it myself. THOUGH the accumulator could run out of pressure if the brake was very rapidly depressed many multiples of times very quickly. Secondly, the car can be shifted out of gear or shut off before much speed was gained. If there was such an issue with these cars, it must have been driver error. Like little old men and ladies who press the accelerator instead of the brake.
The 200 aka 5000 for you was a good car. They are actually quite simple from a electrical standpoint. Then again there were many "Techs" that just called everything they misunderstood "junk". The "reputation" you speak of applied only to North America and was painted on by media and ignorance. That "junk" powered Audi through some iconic motorsports moments and set endurance records.
@@cutroc350 so they were really great but Audi scrapped the entire line and started over ? Been a few years but I do remember the tail lights were problematic. The old " the better engineered they are the harder they are to work on " lol. I'll put my skill at finding/fixing electrical or mechanical up against anybody. I don't believe I ever said the Saudi's were too electronic, I criticized the design of components and of course high price. I think 5000 back then was 25k around Mercedes territory which I did MB tech training in Jacksonville, Fl. Both part 1 and 2. Thanks for the memories.
Many thanks Doug for another interesting and informative review. My 80's memories of Audis were that many folks considered them "fancy Volkswagens" back then and they were rather expensive to fix compared to other vehicles such as BMW and Mercedes.
My first car was a used 84 Audi 5000S. Seeing this video brought back some memories! Like that sunroof. The first time I took it into a carwash water started pouring into the cabin! Good times.
Here's an interesting tidbit: This car had ties to the rap/hip-hop community in the 80s and 90s. Instead of saying "goodbye" or "I'm out" back then, they would say "I'm Audi (outtie) 5000!"
8:25 - That Climate Control deck is straight out of a 1983 Cadillac Brougham (I owned one, 100% sure that is it). Doug did a review on one and didn’t catch that part swap.
That's not a parts swap, that was OEM. They sold them with manual and automatic climate control. I didn't know those were also in some caddies. Just so happens they had the same supplier I guess.
I owned a mid 80's Audi 5000. We thought we were pretty cool at the time. Nice car, kind of a funky body styling. It was a good car for us... pretty bullet proof. I have got to be honest, the Tresor body kit does nothing for an already funky body style though. Never understood the unintended acceleration thing... was never an issue for us.
What about Audi V8 D11? I think that would be really interesting, just because it is usually compared to E32 and W126, and it was a much better than this one 5000, despite the the same base.
Would be nice to see the side by side comparisons as you point out all the Tresser differences. Same thing when talking about other cars with facelifts/refreshes
Doug's intricate knowledge of this obscure Audi from an era he wasn't even driving cars is commendably impressive. When Doug make a video, somewhere a car guy is enlightened. Like his referenced Audi unintended acceleration scandal [exaggerated by 60 Minutes], was a whole conspiracy theory basically concocted from drivers getting their pedals mixed up because they were so close together for narrower European feet. 6 deaths, 700 accidents, $3.5 million in jury awards and a whole federal recall later -Audi's reputation took a decade to really recover.
This has to be the first time Doug has reviewed a car I have truly never heard of
Same here, imagine if it had more power??
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Obscure Audi tuner... no wonder.
My parents had one of these back in the early 90's (when they were cheap because of the whole unintended acceleration debacle, come to think of it - it could've been the late 80's), in later years there was another one in the extended family, but even though we have a history with these cars - I've never heard of this version.
My parents bought one of these in the early 90's. 32 years later, we still have it in the family, running strong!
I’ve said it before…reviews of vehicles like this are so much more interesting than the over-hyped super cars.
As for the 5000, when it first came out, the design was a revelation. My mom really wanted one when new. The unintended acceleration issue was a sad story for the brand…took a long time to recover.
I owned a 1978 Audi 5000 (introductory year) in the early 2000s, it truly was an innovative vehicle. The options it had were crazy for a 70's car.
I still wish I had it today as it was a very low mileage manual trans car
What’s funny is why their cars had unintended acceleration, it’s because Audi mounted the pedals in the opposite direction, so people who were used to driving other cars would get in one, go to hit the brakes, but instead they’d hit the gas and… yeah that’s where it gets sad. Just be happy it was only 6 deaths and not 37 like what happened to Toyota from 2009 to 2011.
Was this acceleration thing real in the end or just operator error? Just seems odd it was the Americans only that had the issue. Here in NZ they were called 100, or 200 Turbo. I have owned both and to be honest couldn’t understand what the yanks were in about
@@angusnz7910 it mostly affected shorter people and the pedals are flipped for gas and brakes compared to other cars, I assume in New Zealand the pedal direction wasn’t changed so it’s probably normal there.
Always thought it was a floor mat issue aka driver error...
For German speakers: there's a great interview with Walter Treser on the Alte Schule UA-cam channel.
I didn't expect to find this car on your, an American, channel - well done!
Das muss ich mir mal anschauen.
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Sehr empfehlenswerter Kanal.
Halle77 also has a video series about a Treser that was saved from the salvage yard
@@testkanal2mille
Thank you
Ich werde es mich auch mal anschauen. AMS war glaube ich auch immer gegeistert von Treser.
Walter Treser was the head of Audi Sport during the years where Quattro was developed. He later went on to become one of the premier aftermarket Audi Tuners. Sadly he passed away at the end of last year aged 81. Nice find Doug. Uber-Rare Car.
it was posted on local CL for years....
nobody wanted it
@@nedudki
While it's interesting to hear it didn't sell for a while (I Guess "Treser" isn't as known on the US Market as obviously here in Germany)
I don't see what your comment has to do with the History of Walter Treser and the fact that he sadly passed away last year and that the Car is rare.
That said, Rare doesn't mean "easy to sell" in every country. Here in Germany this would sell immediately and easily, i guess in the USA it doesn't
Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
This was so damn cool, RIP Mr. Treser. For some reason no love for 80s,90s models in USA.
@@nedudki so obviously the seller did the right thing by offering it on c&b
@@chartreux1532L nobody care
0:01 intro
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6:17 interior
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12:22 engine
14:02 driving
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Having driven a '89 Audi 100 for 7 years, I can only say that these are extremely well built cars, on par with Mercedes models of the era imo. There were some mechanical problems, for instance a leaky power steering system, but overall, these cars are rock solid with bullet proof 5 cylinder engines. Unfortunately, Doug didn't mention the engine that much nor the beautiful sound it produces, talking all the way while it's rumbling in the background :) Would love to drive one again. Btw, Doug: Treser is pronounced 'Treeeser' with a long first E. - Also remarkable that this one is sporting the Euro-Spec headlights and does not seem to have any sidemarkers at all...
Was it really 89 feet long, though?
@@PantherP74 Yes, that's why 89' rr flatcars were invented. - Ok, might have to change the year abbreviation from 89' to '89 I guess :D Model year 1990 is what I mean, you know :D But believe me, for european standards, a car of this length sure felt close to 89 feet. In addition, my car had a hitch fitted which made matters even worse. Luckily, there was much glass to see through and my car was the Avant model. So you could kinda guess where the car ended.
That power steering system is why i sold mine (punches self in face with brick)
German here, true about how to pronounce Treser, but i think Doug is already going way beyond how to pronounce German Names and Word compared to most other American Car Reviewers.
But for those who want to have an easy way to pronounce Treser correctly try: "Dre" like in "Dr. Dre" but "Tre" and then "sair"
Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
@@audiman-gr5gn Yep same here. Fixing it for the 3rd time just wasn't gonna happen for me.... but the car lives on to this day and has been partially restored by the new owner :)
Fascinating review of this very rare Treser Audi. The picture of that raised Treser for off road with the spare wheel mounted on the rear would be extremely rare and wonder if any have survived?
Hunter typ85.
Has to be one of the most 80s thing I've seen
All that is is a body kit. You might be able to find the kit somewhere, and Audi 4000's can be had for the cheap.
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Well Doug this totally brings me back! I went from my Grandfathers 1965 International Harvester pick up truck, to my Uncles Audi 5000 CS Quattro Turbo because sadly he passed on because of Cancer just after purchasing it. You may think it was under powered, but for the day it wasn’t at all. I had so much fun in that car at speed and I also got in big trouble in that car. My father was a well-known lawyer in the town of grew up in and the hardest walk I had at 18 was on a Sunday morning to the breakfast table. After saying hello to him he looked at me and said what’s wrong? I said, ‘Dad I need your help’ and he said sternly, ‘what did you do?’ I said, ‘Dad I need your professional help’. The look of disappointment on his face said it all, but ‘Car Family’, this was the Triple Digit kind of Trouble, The kind when the Police Officer approached the window and said, ‘You know you were going so fast I was about ready to give up’! Yes, I got in serious trouble And in reflecting on it years later that Police Officer probably saved my life. A solid case of young, inexperienced and very lucky. Yes, the car was taken away and God I miss that thing even today!
Treser also modified VWs at the time. My uncle had Passat vr6 from treser, it had 240bhp instead of standard 174bhp. Acceleration 0-60 was just 6 seconds which was absolutely amazing for a salon car back then. He sold it shortly after purchasing it as gear box was constantly beaking down due to high engine power.....
VW should have had Treser use this 240hp VR6 to modify the GTI at the time. It would have been the ultimate pocket rocket.
Finally, Doug gets back to his roots by reviewing random forgotten cars
Nice car. The front wheels with the turbine design are reversed, the back wheels are good, but the front wheels has to be changed once against the other, then it is fine 🙂 very special car though
I had a used ZX2 which had a full set of right hand wheels, for some odd reason.
I’m a big fan of Audis of the 80’s. My friend had a 5000 in high school in this very same color. This Treser treatment I don’t feel it brings the best out of the original 5000 as it makes the overhangs look even longer on a FWD platform. Good catch about the wheels
It's a body kit, that's it. FWD 140 HP automatic, YAWN
I noticed the wrong wheels orientation right away, and it annoyed me a lot along all the video!!!
This same thing happened with cheap econoboxes too like the Proton Satria Neo.
It had directional wheels and most don't give a damn about the placement.... just being cheap and throwing them on randomly.
When I was a kid my folks had a 1985 Audi 5000 Diesel. We did some big road trips from Oregon back to the mid west, it had a exceedingly comfortable ride on the highway. That car was solid and never quit, and was eventually passed on to my nephew who drove it in high school and beyond.
Audi was/is in our family since the 1980s...my parents had a couple, I had 2, but never heard of Treser... Thank you, Mr. Demuro... That's the content I subscribed for... Not the lame cross over and super car reviews
I love stuff like this! I’d love to see an Isuzu impulse, a Mazda mx3, a Nissan nx2000, Mitsubishi starion, early 90s fleetwood, there’s so so many weird cars in the 80s and 90s ! I love it
140 HP? WOW, did CARB choke that thing. The 5000 (US legal crap) is really a 200 turbo and it should produce 220 HP stock, it easily maxed out at 250 km/h in its day and was definitely not slow.
In 1991 the US got the 20v 5 cylinder with over 200hp. Before that we had the 10v in the 5000 and 200 with up to 170hp in the MC1/2 and 1B/2B code motors
CARB (stands for California Air Resources Boarr) only has jurisdiction over cars registered in the state of California. California will not allow registration of any car not federalized with an non OEM engine after the 1975 model year. Additionally, federalized cars were required to have a catalytic converter emissions system not yet required in Europe at this time. The US spec federalized cars were severely restricted on emissions. In 1985 even US cars were just now creeping up in horsepower numbers after car manufacturers were still just figuring out how to make power without running afoul of US emissions laws.
I think its more to this than just emissions. This car is clearly an automatic and i dont think Audi offered automatics in the 5000/100/200 on the more powerful engines (or quattro).
@@Timoastra that too. Autos usually weren’t even turbo. They were often just slightly bigger 2.3L
@@conor7154
well the ferrari testarossa which was the fastest production car for a short time (untill the porche 959) only had 390hp and i believe it needed 4.9 seconds to go from 0 to 60.
I owned an 89 Nissan 240sx turbo in the 90s. It only had 170hp but it felt fast as shit to me back then.
To be fair: It only weighed 1100 kilograms. A modern vw golf is MUCH heavier
Nice to see '80s Audi love on here. I started my VW addiction with the rebadged B2 Passat equivalent "Quantum Syncro Wagon" so it wouldn't compete with Audi's Quattro sedan. I always wanted to drop a 200 turbo in, but I almost made the mistake of trying to stuff a TDI into it.
I can still hear the hiss of the vacuum when locking the differentials 🤠
That is a vehicle worth doing just for going over quirks & features
Here in Italy I used to own an Audi 100 back in early 90’s, as my first car. I bought it used for really cheap, depreciation was huge already for big sedans. Among my friends, all license fresh like me, it was a hell of a car and it stood up compared to their Fiat Panda and Ford Fiesta. I was the hero of my gang and I was always driving all the girls around! 😉
Now those girls are grandmas
@@joecool9739 😂😂😂 yes but just imagine them back then!!! If my back seat could talk!!!
Thanks for the good laugh! 😂😂
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Grandmas nowadays are hot though so you could still call them to "see how theyre doing"
Audi dashboard with wood grain and the leather seats were very nice. I wanted to buy an Audi but they were not as reliable during late 80's as we thought Honda were. All the cars back then had springy seats and the better ones had wonderful supple leather
I bought an Audi 5000 in Germany in 1985--red. Drove it up and down the autobahn at high speeds. Loved the car. Took it back to the states. It was a terrific car until it started to need some repairs, then then US based Audi dealers screwed me several times over. Never had business with Audi ever since.
Doug as President during his inaugural address: "Hello America, I'm proud to be your president. But before I get into that, be sure to check out Carrrrrrrs and Biiiiiids"
No, he has to start with the word THIS
Doug is the type of guy who makes you wanna skip the cars and bids ad at the right second before saying " so, let's talk..."
I wish you reviewed more retro and vintage cars! Very cool video!!
These old reviews are my favorite.
@@John_Locke_108 i know right!!
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@@jjlegend3922 He said that some time ago, his statement was true. And he was talking about the views on videos of older cars in *relation* to videos of newer cars.
YES!
I watched this review with particular interest because I was a tech at a VW/Audi dealer from 1973 to 1987. I can't comment on this car as I know nothing about it. In general terms the 1984 to 1986 5000 series were the most troublesome and should be avoided. For the 1987 model year, Audi finally got it right. These truly were very good cars along with the 1988s. The 1987 normally aspirated Quattro was the the overall champ though. No turbo issues and a trouble free drive line. My customers loved them. The climate control was a constant source of problems in the early cars along with the sun roof. The turbo cars suffered drivability problems throughout. Audi paid for a one time only carbon blast on all turbocharged 5000s. We sold a lot of them so I became quite proficient at doing them. This procedure transformed the car. Carbon build up on the valves was a serious issue and Golf/Jetta vehicles were also affected. The rubber boot covering the fuel lines on this car indicates having the recall to prevent engine fires. We had to do this on every turbo car we sold. As for the 5 cylinder engine, they are bulletproof. I only saw two engine replacements during my time. One was caused by owner neglect and one from overheating. This engine will tolerate all kinds of abuse and it's the one thing you shouldn't worry about. I wish the owner good luck on his sale but buyer beware.
I had an Audi 5S. What a great car it was. Can recognise the sound of the 5 cylinder miles away. Can still recognise the sound as Doug was driving.
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my brother drives a T5 volvo, 5 cylinders are truly the best sound that a normal person can buy.
As a former owner of a Volvo 850 and a Mercedes 190D 2.5… I agree!!! Admittedly the diesel Merc did just sound like a tractor, but the Volvo has a lovely growl, even in non-turbo form.
My dad had a Audi 5000 in the late 80s and it spent a lot time in shop. It was an absolutely a beautiful car in its time; especially, in the red color he had.
This thing is beautiful. Wish I could buy it and bring it back here to Germany.
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Treser is very known here in Switzerland, he was successful in the '82-'95. One can immediately recognise here the modified 100 CS model. Also important to say that Audi has never been compared to Saab. Its direct concurrence was BMW and Lancia (yes: lancia) when comparing typology and pricings. We were a vw/audi dealer family and this audi 100 reminds great times.
My dad bought an Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro new in 87, just before I turned 4 years old. I remember him talking about these and how cool they were. I wish I had the chance to drive one since the regular turbo quattro was so much fun. My dad kept that car as an extra car for years and I took my driver's license test in it, the tester was impressed with how well I drove manual 😁, and I drove it for the first several months I had my license before getting a Saab 900 convertible. Great find, love seeing reviews on something like this!!! The turbo had a boost gauge on that computer but it only read in bar. Also the rear seats had heated seats as an option but there wasn't a switch for them, they worked off the front switches. If the fronts were on and there was over 50 lbs in the rear seat they would turn on. You could really freak people out because almost nobody had been in a car with heated seats back then.
35 years later, watching the sunroof open correctly on this Audi 5000 is like watching 500 simultaneous miracles.
Around 10 years ago I owned an audi 5000, and 10 years before that my dad owned one. I don't have a single memory of the sunroof opening on either. The drive train seemed solid on both cars, but electronics not so much.
That seemed like absolutely everything broke on the 5000.
Love how Doug looks like a giant when reviewing old cars and a dwarf when reviewing new models
Yeah...blah blah blah blah!
The Audi 100/200 was a big car at that era in the late 80' early 90'... at least here in Europe. The Audi 5000 was bigger than Mercedes E-Class or BMW 5 Series competitors. And it's still not "small" compared to todays cars of its class. Look how much space Doug has on the rear seats! This was the biggest advantage of the front drive Audis at that time.
@@Porsche1969 relax, I think you totally misunderstood my comment.. this Audi might even be a limo compared to BMWs and Mercs and Rolls and whatever.. for what I care, I just said that it’s funny to see how Doug looks very big or very small when standing near old or modern cars 🤷🏻
I had several 5000s. I remember the Tresser specials too! They were the things of car magazine dreams although I did see one in 1990. These cars were so durable, Chinese automakers decided to buy rights to the body shell and suspension, and swiftly began producing them with puny 4 cylinder crappy engines. Those chinese "Type 44" cars were not real good to drive, but they clocked millions of miles over and over for chinese owners. These cars also never rusted, they were wax-filled unibodies with wax undercoating everywhere.
This is, in fact, something I have never heard of. But goddamn those wheels and that styling. This thing looks S I C K. How unfortunate that it didn't get any extra power, though. How unfortunate.
It’s an unfortunate that this car got 140hp. Atleast it looks better then what my sons favorite car brand BMW has been putting out lately
@@drippgxd those crazy grills have ruined the designs
They literally look like Aston Martin V8 Zagato rims
@@alexander1485 true that
Looks very similar to an HSV vn commodore
How crazy! I literally just got an 89 Audi 200(same as a US 5000) Quattro Turbo in this colour!!
Damn it's hard to find parts!
This must be one of the rarest cars he has reviewed in the past few years, I've never even heard of Treser before.
I remember when people were suing Audi for ghost acceleration issues, they changed the name from 5000 to 100 in North America. It turned out to be the mats getting stuck under the accelerator, or at least that’s what they said….
Doug could make a review of a little tikes car and I would still watch it
Holy shit that lisp on "this" at the start of the video. THIFFFV!! 😂😂😂😂
My family had 1986 Quantum/Passat. The '86 even had an Audi branded straight 5. It was a good car.
5000 is C3 chassis. Not B2 like a Quantum. The Audi 4000 was B2
@@PoplinsGarage - the Quantum / Passat (so did versions of the 4000 / 80 - 90) used the Audi 2.1L I5 as the larger bodied Audis. Do believe the smaller US-spec engine was the 1.8L I4.
Doug, never lose your quirk and feature personality !
This car screams 1980s, I love it!!!
Walter Treser is my great-uncle. Fascinating man my grandfather used to tell me stories about all the fun they used to have in his project cars. Got the chance to meet him once at an event our family hosted. Was too young at the time to realize I should’ve been asking questions. Wish I did while he was still here.
Doug, you gotta review a Treser T1 Roadster if you ever get that chance! That would be absolutely incredible.
Okay that’s a car I didn’t expect at all. Nice!
First time I've even heard of this version of the Audi 5000 myself
Beautiful car, me and my friends have always loved these or 100s as they were in europe. My friend at one point had 3 or 4 of them. My earliest memory is that my grandfather had a perfect mint 100 in dark blue and with the 2,3 inline 5 engine, loved that car. He i think had it the longest he has ever owned a car too, i was very sad when he sold it. Overall a beautiful thing and this Treser is the ephitamy of 80s cyberpunk looks, love it!
It's like and Audi version of the classic AMG Hammer. 80's awesome still looks good to me!
@Doug Demuro: Great job on finding this rare 80s Audi my good sir.
The SAAB 9000, introduced to the U.S. in 1986, had a Saab branded electronic climate control installed. Felt luxurious and futuristic and also worked pretty well. I owned 3 9000's in my life and loved every one. Each made it over 150,000 miles, with 2 well over 200,000 miles.
My old man had one of those. Great car, first one I ever drove.
A top trim Saab 9000 dash did literally look like an aircraft cockpit. Buttons, lights and LED displays galore! So much more fun than the single touchscreen you get today.
Another great video, Doug! If I recall correctly the wheels were an 16.5” as well, which is a very unusual size.
In hip hop, we would say "i'm audi 5000" or "i'm audi 5" meaning the person was about to leave. I had no idea until today that Audi 5000 was an actual model. Good job Doug
It’s outty 5000 coming from Audi but you’re mucking it all up.
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It's actually a saying for failure. "You're an Audi 5000" meaning you're a failure, a reference to the cars notoriously bad reliability.
Very true my friend
what a weird slang...
Here's your "The More You Know" moment" for the day. In addition to catching fire, Audi vehicles of this time, would on occasion accelerate rapidly without notice. This slang term is actually an adaptation of an earlier slang word "outtie". With that being said. I'm Audi 5000 G!!
The radiator and engine placement is crazy. Never seen both NOT place in the center. Definitely a quirk I find.
The 5 cylinder engine was too long, so they slanted it to the right and put the radiator on the left.
Weird that he didn’t mention that. Also the fact that this lux car only had a 3 speed auto. The entire engine was actually ahead of the front axle coupled to the trans that distributed power for the Quattro system. That explained the very forward placement and large front overhang. Also made for some crazy understeer and push combined with the Quattro system.
Love the old Audis!!! Thanks Doug!
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This car has Mercedes Benz Cosworth 190e 2.3 16v vibes in the styling and color. Even the vents in the C pillar. Probably not too many people would see the similarities. Only true car enthusiasts would notice something like that.
I thought it was a 190 from the thumbnail
Suprised that he didn't talk about the metric trx wheels
I want that Tresser Hunter. Offroad cars really turn my crank.
I had a 5000cs 2.2 turbo Quattro (all black 5 speed) back in high school. Around 2002. Probably the best car I have ever had even to this day!! Insane awd.
That is NOT this. Yours was actually cool. This is just lipstick.
@@bindingcurve yea. I loved that car. Sold it because the coil went bad! The coil cost as much as I paid for the whole car!!! (Back then)
With tint and some new wheels this would be a sick daily. 👌
Saw this for sale in Escondido. Was wondering when Doug would do a review
The reason is the same dealer which is selling it (their name and phone number are on the rear plate shown) did put it for sale on CARS & BIDS.
Doug, who is a PARTNER of that site, is now reviewing select cars that come to the site as complement for his new car reviews. Smart business move and totally acceptable.
@@syxepop I have no idea what any of that meant but yeah go off
Weird that he didn’t mention one of the biggest quirks…the entire engine was actually ahead of the front axle coupled to the trans that distributed power for the Quattro system. That explained the very forward placement and large front overhang. Also made for some crazy understeer and push combined with the Quattro system. Also the fact that this lux car only had a 3 speed auto where a garden variety Camry had a 4 speed
Audi lost a massive amount of market share in the 80s with the whole "sudden acceleration" problem that damn near bankrupted the badge.
Yep. My parents bought one of these in the wake of the scandal for cheap, I think it was around 3000 dollars for a car that was two or three years old at the time.
They are still woefully unreliable. Here in the UK Audi have the highest engine failure rate at 22% within 100k miles.
@@fakevirus8828 Maybe you brits should learn to drive
PREACH
The worst part is that audi never did what they should've done and sued CBS/60 Minutes for defamation and slander the same way GM did too NBC in 1993 after dateline aired a 100% fake "expose" about the "safety" of the '74-'87 C/K pickup line.
The case that 60 minutes featured in their story eventually went to trial and the jury ruled in audi's favor saying that the fault for the "wrongful death" of the six year old boy who died laid entirely on his mother who was driving the car when the accident happened.
Hi Doug, really enjoyed this video. Would love to see more obscure European and Japanese house-tuned car reviews. Koenig, HKS stuff like that!
Omg, thank you so much for these gems! Never heard of Treser, those bodykits are seriously cool.
My first car was an '85 Audi 5000s turbo. Absolutely loved that car, but the white aluminum door handles were a nightmare in cold climates (which is surprising since they are German.) I had two just snap off in extreme cold temps. It's really unfortunate about the unintended acceleration nonsense, but maybe it made Audi that much better because they had to overcome that public perception. I had a 2015 A8L until a few years ago, and it was interesting to look at all the improvements Audi made in the 30 years between my car's model years.
I've gotta say, I'm EXTREMELY disappointed that the Doug score portion of the video has been neutered down and no longer includes Doug's thoughts and reasoning for each score given. I think that was a terrible mistake likely made for the sole purpose of an easier production for each video. I can tell you it absolutely ruins the end of each and every video for me.
So cool that you feature this car. I was at Treser in Ingolstadt a couple of times to collect customer cars that where either serviced or modified after they left the factory from Audi near by. The black rear lights where a must have for any Audi driver in the glorious 80s. 😊😊😊
All iterations of the 5000 were great. I had a 1986 5000s and I wish I had that car back. Just a beautiful vehicle.
You must’ve gotten very lucky.
It's been a long time since anyone mentioned Treser. Great to see this!
Cant remember the last time doug reviewed a car ive never heard about
Man, i've been following you for some years, and have seen so many of your videos, and still no get bored of you reviews. But Gooooood, i hate how you are doing the DOUG SCORE now!!!!! The old way where you were explaining why is that score and so was the best. Couldn t watch a video without seeing it. Common, come back to the old way. THIS IS THE WAY!!
Everybody, let's convince doug to do the doug score right again.
I agree I’m disappointed each time without the score breakdown!
Great video as always! Only one comment, it is pronounced “Trayser” not Tresser.
Had to watch this. Audi 100 was my very first car back when I lived in Europe, and it was amazing. Mine was manual though. My love for cars started from this old jewel.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Audi unintended acceleration fiasco. I feel like it's one of the more egregious examples of hit piece journalism gone awry. The 60 Minutes special which brought the whole thing about isn't easily found these days and I think most people know why. I'm glad Audi persevered but it was the kind of bad press that has killed smaller brands.
"Sudden" acceleration? I would have been happy to have ANY acceleration in the '85 5000s wagon (ahem, Avant) and then later 1990 100 Avant. Misunderstood by the public and mechanics alike I believe these models introduced the concept of euro luxury car depreciation. Both my Avants were bought as used super-bargains, and with a young family I really appreciated that! Used OE parts were cheap and plentiful too since due to massive depreciation even minor wrecks were parted out.
Absolutely LOVE the pacing and editing of this review.
As always, Doug made an epic review of an epic car
Agreed
"Epic car"? 😂 😄😄
@@markallen2984 define “epic” 😆 it’s cool but .. just my opinion! 🧐
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Such a rare car. You could say it's a National Treser
Wish Doug got to review the higher power output version, interested to see how it went.
Here's how it would go... Doug: "This car is really fast for the time period!" ~ Doug Score: Acceleration 3
Quite fast top speed and high speed acceleration for its time.
@@earnestbunbury2103 L + Ratio + fatherless + hater
I forgot Doug does vids on the weekend. Hard working man. Interesting, forgotten car!
In the last few weeks Doug usually pulled a "Top List" (formerly on "More Doug DeMuro") from his garage to upload on Sundays. This auction review replaced that this week.
Doug, the kind of guy to review a body kit to help sell a car on his website
Nah, he's genuinely interested in this. It's a piece of automotive history, why not
Donald S - the kind of guy to post a totally overused annoying cliche that's neither funnny nor informative.
First car review I've ever seen in front of huge piles of mulch.
I worked as a Tech for a Audi, VW, Subaru dealership. Audi 5000, 4000 were high priced junk. Electrical nightmares. Then there was the engine speed surge while stopped at idle. These models gave Audi such a bad reputation they started from scratch.
The only person I know who had one of these said it was the worst car they ever owned, so bad it made them swear off the brand for good.
I've been through an Audi 5000 pretty much completely thanks to some mice who thought the wire insulation was a tasty snack. There weren't that much electronics in them, especially compared to anything modern. I didn't find it at all challenging to repair or diagnose--though I do remember seeing some high current wires and connectors were rather undersized and started to overheat even before the mice got to it... The heated seat wires were the worst if I remember. That was kind of sketch. Those got upgraded substantially.
The mechanical fuel injection on the other hand--and the hydraulic brake booster/suspension leveling... Those caused a wee bit of head scratching. 🤯 I would hazard to guess that whatever surge issue existed was probably caused by a mechanic who monkied on and didn't understand the mechanical injection system.
If you read on the unintentional acceleration / surge issue, ABC had to modify the car to do it, and it's pretty clear they were just out to kill AUDIs reputation for some unknown reason. For one, the brakes were way more powerful than the engine, and could easily stall the torque converter at any RPM. Tested it myself. THOUGH the accumulator could run out of pressure if the brake was very rapidly depressed many multiples of times very quickly. Secondly, the car can be shifted out of gear or shut off before much speed was gained.
If there was such an issue with these cars, it must have been driver error. Like little old men and ladies who press the accelerator instead of the brake.
The 200 aka 5000 for you was a good car. They are actually quite simple from a electrical standpoint. Then again there were many "Techs" that just called everything they misunderstood "junk". The "reputation" you speak of applied only to North America and was painted on by media and ignorance. That "junk" powered Audi through some iconic motorsports moments and set endurance records.
@@cutroc350 so they were really great but Audi scrapped the entire line and started over ? Been a few years but I do remember the tail lights were problematic. The old " the better engineered they are the harder they are to work on " lol. I'll put my skill at finding/fixing electrical or mechanical up against anybody. I don't believe I ever said the Saudi's were too electronic, I criticized the design of components and of course high price. I think 5000 back then was 25k around Mercedes territory which I did MB tech training in Jacksonville, Fl. Both part 1 and 2. Thanks for the memories.
@@jamesmurphy9346 The defensive comments is just proof that there will be contrarians who can defend anything, no matter how notoriously awful it was.
holy crap! there was an original Audi TT behind doug during the drive and it matched his t-shirt...the Audi gods were smiling on this Treser model!
Many thanks Doug for another interesting and informative review. My 80's memories of Audis were that many folks considered them "fancy Volkswagens" back then and they were rather expensive to fix compared to other vehicles such as BMW and Mercedes.
They still are.
Just as Lexus is a fancy Toyota.
Infiniti is a fancy Nissan.
Acura is a fancy Honda.
Genesis is a fancy Hyundai.
THIS is why I subbed never heard of this and it’s already on “the list”
I had no idea all this time that the expression "I'm (Audi) 5000" came from this car.
Turns out LL Cool J started that expression.
There is so much that rap fans have "no idea" about
That looks amazing!
Treser Super 5000 sounds like The 6000 SUX from RoboCop lol
Doug we need some classic alpinas and rufs next!
“Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissss!”
My first car was a used 84 Audi 5000S. Seeing this video brought back some memories! Like that sunroof. The first time I took it into a carwash water started pouring into the cabin! Good times.
I love seeing Doug review 80s and 90s cars!
Has to be an interesting/rare semi-modern vehicle, otherwise he does not care about classic older cars.
Here's an interesting tidbit: This car had ties to the rap/hip-hop community in the 80s and 90s.
Instead of saying "goodbye" or "I'm out" back then, they would say "I'm Audi (outtie) 5000!"
8:25 - That Climate Control deck is straight out of a 1983 Cadillac Brougham (I owned one, 100% sure that is it). Doug did a review on one and didn’t catch that part swap.
That's not a parts swap, that was OEM. They sold them with manual and automatic climate control. I didn't know those were also in some caddies. Just so happens they had the same supplier I guess.
@@nominalvelocity Yep, 100% that is oem. My grandma had the exact same one in their 1991 Audi 100, which was the last year of this body style.
I owned a mid 80's Audi 5000. We thought we were pretty cool at the time. Nice car, kind of a funky body styling. It was a good car for us... pretty bullet proof. I have got to be honest, the Tresor body kit does nothing for an already funky body style though. Never understood the unintended acceleration thing... was never an issue for us.
that front wheel(s) facing the wrong direction kinda bugged me
The 1982 200 turbo was 180 bhp and in 83 it was updated to 200bhp. 140bhp was the normally aspirated 2.1l 5 cylinder motor.
What about Audi V8 D11? I think that would be really interesting, just because it is usually compared to E32 and W126, and it was a much better than this one 5000, despite the the same base.
This is a wonderful review. More of these please. Very educational
Would be nice to see the side by side comparisons as you point out all the Tresser differences. Same thing when talking about other cars with facelifts/refreshes
Probably already mentioned, but the original Quattro Coupe was boot/trunk and not a hatchback.
The directional wheels must be on incorrectly, unless it's supposed to have a different rotational direction for the front vs rear wheels.
Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed this. How'd they goof that up??
@@jonfinlayson6402 it's all I could focus on the whole time. Was driving me nuts. No clue how you mess that up 🤣🤣
There are 3 the same and 1 different one, look at photo's on the website...
@@berryrijnbeek5938 interesting!!!
My OCD also went into overdrive with this… glad I’m not the only one
Doug's intricate knowledge of this obscure Audi from an era he wasn't even driving cars is commendably impressive. When Doug make a video, somewhere a car guy is enlightened. Like his referenced Audi unintended acceleration scandal [exaggerated by 60 Minutes], was a whole conspiracy theory basically concocted from drivers getting their pedals mixed up because they were so close together for narrower European feet. 6 deaths, 700 accidents, $3.5 million in jury awards and a whole federal recall later -Audi's reputation took a decade to really recover.
I'm going to buy it just so I can say "I'm outy 5000 in my Audi 5000"
Enjoy the repair bills and trying to keep it running!
@@mrjohnnyk I'll enjoy driving your mom around in it. They're both classics...
Why Doug is the best in the WORLD at what he does👌🏽
That's true!