Honestly even if I had the money to buy all those 2-3 million dollar supercars, I would still be much more interested in Doug's "regular" and historical car reviews.
These 2000s Cadillacs were packed with tech and super comfortable to drive. It's a shame the Northstar engines had such so many fatal flaws that really hurt Cadillac's reputation.
I remember when these came out Cadillac was so proud about how the brake lights became fully illuminated quicker than any other car on the road and that it was a huge safety advantage.
I liked the idea of those tail lights until I saw them in person. I'm one of those people that unless lights have an extremely fast refresh rate they seem to flicker. So for most of the past 20 years any GM car with LED tail lights when they come on they seem to strobe and flicker. I don't notice it as much in other brands but especially the early Cadillac tail lights and also the new LED Christmas lights that came out at about the same time for a lot of people it's just like having a strobe light in your face. People see things at different frequencies and all lights blink but most people don't perceive it so it's not a problem. But for many people they have the same problem with fluorescent lights but for me it was the first led lights TVs and everything were completely migraine inducing. There's a simple experiment anybody can do if they are skeptical, turn on your camera phone and point your TV remote at the camera and push a button. You'll be shocked at the bright flickering light that your phone camera lens picks up but that you can't see with your bare eyes. You don't even have to do it in a dark room the camera phone will pick up the strobing white light that the remote uses to communicate with the tv. But for most people that is outside of their spectrum of vision so they never see light coming out of their remote control. It's the same kind of thing there is enough variety in eyeballs that for some people LED lights are absolute torch torture and for other people they can't tell the difference one way or the other.
It's neat to be able to go back in time and evaluate cars that were around us, that we maybe didn't think twice about at the time. But we can appreciate certain features or whole cars, now that we're many years removed. Thanks for doing this! 🚘
keep doing these old car videos! every time I check the comments on these older/quirky car reviews, there are tons of people voicing their desire for more! myself included. never stop
I always love these 80s, 90s and 2000s cars reviews. It's just wonderful to see what was high performance and high-tech back on these times. Also, I loved this Deville. I didn't knew about this "new" Deville, only about the 60s one. But boy oh boy, what a wonderful performance sedan!
Doug, an interesting quirk I remember Tim mentioning is that when they decided to remove the hood ornament and make a custom grill the night vision stopped working. They figured out that it was the Cadillac emblem that was blocking the IR camera. So they had to custom make the emblem as a cutout. If you notice the emblem is not the usual solid multicolor one but a cut out version that lets the camera do its job (or maybe not).
That makes sense. I wonder where it went. I found the auction for the car online, and they both mention it in the flaws, and shown in the pictures, but the emblem is missing.
I remember when this car was introduced back in 2000, Car & Driver did a complete show with Tim Allen and Jon Moss introducing the car and Tim Allen Design company. Jon Moss delivered the car to Tim at a road course where Tim put it through it’s paces. Cool then and cool now.
I have a friend that owns a standard Develle and it’s amazing just how luxurious it is for such an old car. He has a gauge cluster with a screen, heated and cooled front and rear seats, powered just about everything, and much more. It’s truly a stunning car. If only it was as reliable as it was luxurious
Tbh looking back you’re so right. I had a 2000 as my first car for almost a decade, and lookng back at what’s standard in cars nowadays - my deville had them before them all.
Lol that was the first thing I thought of. GM likes to load up their cars with high end features and tech but stuff (like power window regulators ugh) is always breaking.
I acquired a 2003 DTS for my mother-in-law. Before she took possession of it I went over it to make sure it was road ready. That meant road testing it. I really enjoyed it. Plenty of power. Great handling. It has plenty of head turning appeal. I wish they had made them rear wheel drive and not screwed up the design of the engine that causes the head gasket to blow.
The Seville's successor STS (Seville Touring Sedan) had RWD 🙂, while the DeVille's successor DTS (DeVille Touring Sedan) kept its FWD 😐 They were both succeeded by the XTS - which had FWD The El Dorado didn't have any successor
I’ve seen this Caddy parked in the Petersen’s parking garage a couple of times. The fixed Brembo calipers really conveyed that this was some special edition or modded model. I was super curious and found Car and Driver article on it. Such a wonderfully odd creation.
What an awesome car! Cadillac started doing cornering lamps in the 60's! These are wonderful cars! Some of these neat features are found in my '04 Buick Park Avenue, too. Body roll is definitely a thing! If the Northstars were PROPERLY maintained, they didn't suffer from the head gasket problems (fixed by '05). I love these big American cars! I'm glad to own Cadillacs and Buicks!
I gotta admit what got me hooked on Doug were these old car reviews. This is probably what makes Doug unique in a world of somewhat similar car reviewers
doug seems to dwell on the fact that "older, elderly" folks would buy these cars...in actuality, most owners were not 80ish, more like in their 40s and 50s.
I had a 03 Deville it was one my favorite daily’s. Fun fact. Turn on traction control and spin the tires from a 10-15mph roll on a dirt road onto pavement, traction control will make the car fall on its face but the rpm’s will keep rising. Keep it wot and hit the TC button again and it will basically neutral drop itself and take off like a rocket. Dumb 16 yo me thought it was the funnest thing ever. Called it my “turbo” button. Fun times. Use this knowledge with caution.
I had a Deville back in the day and if I remember correctly the reason the passenger didn't get a dial for the climate controls was because the passenger could only vary the temperature from what the driver picked by 5 degrees or something like that. It was a good traveling car, kinda like riding in a boat going down the highway.
That's exactly what I remember. The manual for my grandfather's old Cadillac had this same system and that was exactly how it was explained in the manual. Passenger could choose "hotter or colder" than the driver's set temp but it didn't really vary that much.
I've heard that there is a company in the states that offers the upgraded heads, with longer bolts, requiring you to drill into the block, not for the faint of heart.. but if you're an experienced mechanic this solves the fatal flaw of the Northstar... Certainly worth doing on this vehicle!
@@christianf4305 The problem was that Cadillac used head studs with very fine threads. These would eventually pull slightly loose, and then the head gasket would blow. The solution is to install head studs from a Chevy LS, which have very coarse threads and clamp perfectly. The problem: The existing head stud holes have to be drilled and tapped and this can only be done with a hand drill. The water passages are VERY close, and it is easy to ruin a block by doing this. Car Wizard is a channel on here and his shop has done numerous NorthStar head conversions. He has a video on it if you look at his stuff.
It just seems that a company like GM would have tested and determined that the head bolts were wrong before they let them on the street. They spent BILLIONS on development and this slips through?
More like When Doug reviews some ultra rare fast supercar : People be like *"I'm wishing death on Doug"* When Doug reviews a regular 2000s sedan : People be like *"Oh my god, marry me!?"*
I’m with you there. I hardly ever watch his supercar reviews. I don’t find anything interesting about them. I prefer cars that I stand a possibility of owning to those uber-wealthy status symbol cars.
Absolutely beautiful, the body lines, the beefy stance everything. Tim Allen’s involvement only makes this more special. I think this car has aged exceptionally well, doesn’t look like a car from the early 2000s at all. Front end reminds me of the Mercedes c140 c class
@@paulthomson9014 a big square car in the 2000s? only thing shaped like this is a impala. everything else was curvy and aerodynamic, like the bmw's to hondas. not sure what other brand this could be mistaken for besides a GM. even the fords Taurus or dodge chargers looked nothing like this.... this is the design all the 60yearolds wanted at the time lol and no other manufacture had anything similar.
@@paulthomson9014 yeah the regular one was bland, I’m speaking specifically about the dtsi, but you’re wrong about the design being “like any other car”. This was a “boxy” sedan in the midst of cars which had no body lines or definitions, and were what I’d describe as curvy blobs
@@yallugly4317 Is having my own opinion really lying to myself? Compared to the e38 7 series, Audi a6, heck even the w220 s class, this car looks far sleeker and more modern. Yeah the front end would obviously look dated, it’s a 22 year old car but look at it starting from the b-pillar and you’d understand what I meant
@@PD-we8vf he mentioned it on one of his more Doug demuro videos. I believe it was a flat percentage of the final sales price maybe like 4-5% if I remember correctly?
And yet, despite all his huge success, he's still so obsessed with views and analytics that he keeps threatening to stop reviewing older cars like this. So irritating... :(
I have an 08 DTS it is a beast of a car. Not the greatest around town, gas wise, bun on the freeways, Belt lines, and interstates it is fantastic. Like driving a hot rod couch. Smooth and quiet.
Factory sleepers! Love 'em already but didn't know of this particularly cool one's existence until today. Isn't Cars and Bids just the perfect complement to this channel for some odd/unusual content to surface that would otherwise hardly ever become possible? Very much enjoyed this video, thank you.
Eh, they were quick-ish in their day. Not really sleepers per se, being slightly faster than most 200-ish hp V6 family cars. The 240-280 hp V6 family cars of the early 2000s eclipsed them in straight line performance. But in the early to mid 90s, the Northstar STSs were a little faster than, say, the original LS400 or Q45, and similar to V8 E-Classes, XJs and 5-Series. Comparing them to the 9-speed or CVT-equipped cars of today, with the insanely fine tuning control of advanced computer controlled systems isn't really fair, though. This was back before variable valve timing allowed broader spectra of power and output was limited by 4 speed automatics. Even wheel slip played a bigger role with less advanced traction control. It's a meaningless comparison. My $50 tracfone has more computing power than a $20k Silicon Graphics workstation from 1992. Big whoop.
I remember the a/c in this car worked so good and v8 was so strong. Suspension floated like a cloud and seats were very comfortable. Battery was under the seat was a pain. Trunk space was great. Add some rims to this and candy paint and your a G in Texas 😆
Awesome car, and very cool to see Doug get so excited about this car. He's driven everything under the sun, and he still thinks this DeVille is special (and it is). This car is one of one, and so is Doug.
I like everything about this car except the front: it manages to be both dull and ugly at the same time, the front lights seem out of an old Honda Civic.
So was the DeVille one of if not the first car to have Night vision? Either way it's insanely impressive and deserves a lot of credit, that touch screen is pretty impressive too cause it still works and looks relatively responsive
Yes, they were the first ones to offer night vision, something they proudly bragged about as at the time you couldnt have a Mercedes or BMW with night vision
I'm curious about the software they used for the infotainment. Jaguars and Lexus of the same time period had similar touchscreen systems that still perform well even today. Far better than the terrible controller based systems in Mercedes and BMW.
I'm 29 and when I first saw the 2000 Cadillac DTS I always wanted one . I ended getting one when I was 27 and loved it. But I sold it because of the covet 19 . I'm planning on getting a 2006 or 07 Cadillac DTS. The cars are so comfortable to ride in.
The amount of technology in this car is crazy for its time. More tech than some of the newest cars. Parking sensors, heated rear seats and digital speed wow.
The navigation system is so obsolete. The plastic push buttons are horrible. It was the era and I worked inside General Motors Design Staff in the Chevy III Studio on the C5 Corvette at the time.
Thank you for mentioning this taillights on this car! I love that you and I are of a similar age (and oddity) - when this car came out I was the same wide eyed 10 year old kid mesmerized by the then-revolutionary LED glow and fast blinking characteristics that looked like a spaceship at the time. Truly excited by a taillight as a kid - Kind of hilarious to think back on that (although these days LED lighting has become such an important design characteristic on almost every car, definitely not the case back then!). 20 years later and I'm an industrial designer - it's funny how things all make sense with time! :-)
I agree! I always noticed these taillights and thought they were so cool! I didn't know they were just straight LED, like the ones that are common nowadays. I always thought they used fiber optics somehow. For some reason, these lights still stand out today when I see them. They just look different than the current LEDs.
Second that! Was truly amazed by them. Didn’t know about LED technology back then and always referred to them as “digital” taillights due to their definitive ON/OFF sequence
I have an 02’ dts and they are amazing cars. Even stock they are pretty fast especially for the size and age. We’ve also had very minimal issues and we hit 150k miles this summer.
@@bramlintrent1145 Even the stock LD8 Devilles (and later, the DTS that replaced it) don't feel that underpowered, and the gas mileage is decent. A good "work hard, play hard" car.
I LOVED my 2005 DeVille DTS. The DTS trim front bumper with integrated fog lamps makes the front end look so much better. I've had 3 cars with with the Northstar and absolutely loved them. They sound so great! When GM released these engines in the early 90s they really were amazing. People like to hate on them, but once the head studs are upgraded, they are fantastic. I really wish they would have continued development and improvement as well as modernization. Crazy to think these survived relatively unchanged from the early 90s thru 2011. GM was on to something!.... key word, WAS. Lol
I was not that lucky 🍀! My 1999 Cadillac started burning oil at 32,000 miles! Had the runaround with Cadillac. Sued them under the lemon law but got only $2000. I’ll never buy another GM product. Like some many others! I now drive Lexus! Second vehicle! Only one problem! Had to do with an adjustment needed for the braking system. 130,000 miles still runs strong!
Love this review, Caddy has always been so tech ahead. I have a now semi retired 99 Buick Park Ave Ultra, when changing from USA to Imperial, there was no issue as it was a needle on a back round. What is cool about that car is it had rain sense wipers that fell out of favor for a few years. Cornering lamps were falling out of fashion when this Caddy was built, that was old school luxury. But it is a feature found on Caddy XT4s, it turns on when using the turn signal or if you turn at lower speed with out the signal.
The 4T80E transmission had "Performance Algorithm Shifting"! One of the first ones that uses driver inputs to pick the right gear and shift firmness. In my STS if I braked and started to turn, it would go into 2nd gear before I got back on the accelerator.
Thank you for still making videos on older cars even though you know they will get less views - your old fan base such as myself appreciates you Doug. You're a real one.
I’m pretty sure the views on those videos on new cars would drop as well if he stopped doing these. The people subscribed for older and cool cars would start unsubscribing.
Owned a black DTS for 12 years. One of the BEST road cars I've ever driven. They really spoil you and nothing compares to a Cadillac. I miss this car soooooo bad. 03 DTS with the 320hp version of the Northstar. Had a different VIN for that motor. If ya know ya know.
I always loved this car , because they were mostly owned by elderly people it’s easy to find a nice clean one with LOW KM. They can sound sweet with a proper exhaust the only thing is the Northstar V8 I always hear they have issues.
I owned a 2005 DeVille and loved it! It was the perfect balance of affordable, luxurious and sporty (bought used 2016-2021). It gave me very few problems and was great for a custom sound system. You can even check and clear diagnostic codes from the dash! 1993-2004 northstars had headbolt issues that could be fixed for a high price. 2005-2011 were revised. I still own a 2003 Oldsmobile Aurora with the 4.0L northstar that the previous owner had the headbolt issue fixed. That is the lighter better handling sleeker sporty looking northstar to have in my opinion.
That engine will surely fail just because it’s old doesn’t matter how well it was maintained or how low the miles are. They got a lot right but that engine negated all the positive attributes.
This car has dramatically improved shutlines like I have never seen on a Cadillac before. Whoever made the final prep of this car was out on a mission.
I have a 1998 Cadillac STS, that thing was crazy fast! I also installed a nice flow master muffler on it so it was louder and sounded awesome. I surprised a lot of Honda's in that car. It was also the fastest top speed I've ever driven, 160 MPH on a lonely highway (limiter was disabled). I don't remember exactly how to do it as it's been years, but there is a way to access the computer in those cars through the stereo buttons and put the transmission into a sort of performance mode for much firmer and faster shifts!
Doug is a proper top notch car review guy new & old in depth & enthusiasm is unmatched leaves you knowing alot more information about any said car! Bang on cheers doug
I'm happy that more brands will start doing the turn signal lighting on the side, not just for the drivers, but also for me mostly as a pedestrian, because during the day, it can be hard to see if, or which signal they've got on.
this gave me so much nostalgia. my first car was one of these in 2017. i thought that the parking sensor lights in the roof was the coolest thing ever. Even though the front bumper didnt fit, the coat was peeling above the windshield, i broke the sunroof on the highway, and i blew the water pump up on it after two weeks, i will always miss that car, and i will want another one until I die.
@@waywithwords3632 you had a 04 mary kay ? Was it pearl white or the mary kay pink ? If it was mary kay pink id like to see it, ive never seen the deville/dts from 00 to 05 in pink.
Years ago I had a '92 Buick Roadmaster. You could tell it was designed for older people because it actually had a warning chime for if you left your turn signal on too long.
I always loved the look of these. Something tells me this modded Northstar can rev way higher than the advertised 6300 rpm redline to achieve the 400hp number.
Loved this review! Never knew this thing existed. Check out the STS-V, I can't remember if you did that one or not. ALSO The hvac controls on the steering wheel is a no-brainer!! I would rather have those on the wheel than the cruise control, which I never use. Would love more special edition/one-off reviews!
How is it running how many miles you get it at and how many you put on it since buying? I got a 2001 midnight blue also LOL! Only 60k miles my grandpa owned it for 20 years and never drove it. Worried about the north star engine being unreliable. Small oil leak that’s been there for couple years have to top off oil. Any issues at all so far?
These videos are SO important. Even if regular people don't care about a 20 year old Caddy owned by a drug dealer turned comedian, the rest of us do. This is automotive history and it's good to see these older cars to remind modern car makers what worked back in the day that no longer exists (like redirectable quarter glass)
The DeVilles from 2000 to 2011 were GREAT cars. For 11 years, I owned and enjoyed two of them. Smooth as silk. Powerful engine. Pure class in design - nothing like the PIMPMOBILES that Cadillac is grinding out today.
Doug, cornering lamps were ubiquitous on North American cars aside from econoboxes. Taurus, Grand Marquis, Delta 88, Caprice, Town Car... All of these, their platform mates, and more had cornering lamps. They were much more common than they are today.
I had 2002 Seville SLS and loved the smoothness of the engine and suspension. People say RWD would’ve been nice, but in Chicago, FWD was ideal in the snow. I would be able to go 80 MPH in heavy snowfall and slow down like nothing due to the weight. There’s still cars these days that still don’t have the tech/amenities that car had.
I had a 1998 STS around 2004. It had everything except the sunroof. I absolutely loved that car. Should've never sold it. I'm trying to get a DTS right now. I'm so excited just shopping for them. Found a 2003 DTS and also a 2009. But, to be honest the 2003 body style has me all nostalgic, and the one I found has less miles. Only 92,000.
Had an 04 (amongst many other North stars) and it would flat out fly in a straight line (300hp was really good back then), rode smoother than anything, and got 28mpg highway, nearly 20 in city. Felt super solid, maybe not compared to an S class, but it was also half the price. If these things were RWD, they would have been real contenders. I have an ES350 now, the spiritual successor to the deville, but dead reliable. They get so much crap for not being German sporty, not everyone wants that. Smooth, isolating ride and high end torque for highway overtaking are all I want or need. Keep your punishing suspension and tight steering, I drive an ambulance for a living and get enough "road feedback" when I'm at work, I just want to be pampered by my car in my off time. Lots of people do. Stop mocking it.
I totally agree with you ,who told automakers that we all wanted to ride around in stiffly Sprung Race cars I miss the days when you could make a U-turn using only your pinky finger and float across railroad crossings
As long as it turns and stops safe I'm good, don't need to be the fastest around the track, but I do wanna blow some doors off in a straight line (dig, roll or top end)
Beautiful Caddy…After seeing this, I feel proud of owning my own mint condition 2007 DTS with 56k on Vogue Tyres. My Pharaohs Chariot as I call it, turns more heads than a new Cadillac model.😉🙂
I had myself a 07 DTS performance. higher horsepower and Gms early magnetic suspension. I wouldn't say it was quick, but it would get you to 100 mph so smoothly and effortlessly it would catch you off gaurd.
I’m primarily interested in watching dougs videos on older cars, because its the weird cool stuff of the past that I can potentionally afford and own, anyone else?
Yes, I feel the exact same way, actually I just made nearly an identical comment myself. I have no interest in any of the over-priced supercars Doug reviews with the exception of older Ferraris, Lamborghinis and such. I typically never watch his videos on modern, $1,000,000+ cars, they just don’t interest me. I too like cars that I have a hope of being able to buy.
Each time Doug sees a car without big curves and creases he calls it "dull" and "boring". And no Doug, this was far from the old school looking Cadillac, it even alienated some of the last few customers that didn't want to let go of the 70's. The last old school-ish looking Cadillac was the 97-99 Deville, and the last properly old school was the 93-96 Fleetwood.
Exactly, I owned a 2005 and thought it was a somewhat classic take on the big bubbly modern American car. So much better looking than a Lincoln Town Car.
Something else that’s super cool about these Cadillacs is that the digital speed readout is actually projected onto the gauges from the inside of the dashboard
He missed a few of the features... the seats have a massaging feature, auto rear shades that go up and down, and voice activated/hands free communication.
Tim Allen has worked with many auto makers over the years. He has hands on many ford projects. Tim A. Is more of A car enthusiast that loves the design of the car, then just "car collector" or a speed head. He know lots of history of cars from all around the world.
The fact that Tim Allen likes cars doesn't improve my opinion of him. I wondered why he would try to do this with a Cadillac vs. just getting a BMW or something that already has those characteristics, but whatever I guess.
My 2nd car was a 99 Olds Intrigue that had the "baby Northstar" AKA Shortstar 3.5L LX5 V6. It was a pretty potent motor considering the weight it was hauling around and 215 HP doesn't seem like a lot now, but back then it was considered quite a bit. Those motors and the Northstar's also had some technology that wasn't widely seen at the time like limp home mode. Definitely a cool review!
Another Demuro video where he sees something for the first time and thinks it’s a “quirk”, despite it being an old feature. Cornering lamps had been on luxury cars for decades before this car was made.
Doug's the type of guy who's an expert on old people. 😂 Did learn some cool things though - like Cadillac had the guts to put a 400hp V8 into a fwd car.
I own a 2003 Seville STS, it's crazy how different my car is to the Deville. My 6 CD changer is in a lower center console compartment, and my touch screen panel moves out and down to allow me to put a map/DVD in. It has the same Northstar 4.6L V8, super nice sedan
i love this generation of deville cause they are SOO damn comfy, a friend of mine had one in high school and the seats were like sitting on a cloud and they ride amazingly (i was surprised because of it being a late 90’s/early 00’s GM product) and i was actually looking at one of these for a daily but the northstar’s got me paranoid
I waited years and years and years for a Cadillac deville review from this guy, who went from new cars reviews to, anything I can review so money can continue coming, which don’t get me wrong, I like
I love it when Doug reviews relatively normal cars from 10-30 years ago
Cars most people actually owned.
Honestly even if I had the money to buy all those 2-3 million dollar supercars, I would still be much more interested in Doug's "regular" and historical car reviews.
Agreed, but seems like Doug has been holding some of his vids. Ramcharger, Clio V6, Nissan Zagato. He teased them over a year ago.
Right
@@deedsofdecapitation7477 expensive to buy, expensive to maintain and expensive to repair or replace! Makes no “cents” to me!
We love your "older car" reviews Doug. Please never stop making them. This is what makes me love what you do
Thanks, Doug! We're always excited to have you in the museum.🏎
Hello Petersen!
These 2000s Cadillacs were packed with tech and super comfortable to drive. It's a shame the Northstar engines had such so many fatal flaws that really hurt Cadillac's reputation.
Damn head bolts 😂😂
yeah i miss my 96 and 97 Seville...... i averaged about 26mpg and blew both up.... Drove great though for the year i owned em
Glad my escalade atleast got the ls treatment they all should have gotten
Too bad it’s so ugly 😂
@@mustasheolll2020 that's simply false
I remember when these came out Cadillac was so proud about how the brake lights became fully illuminated quicker than any other car on the road and that it was a huge safety advantage.
I do remember when I was a child and I saw one of these on the road for the first time. I thought the brake lights were super cool.
Oh yea! I forgot about that. They did make a big deal out of the lights. Back when you still had to read about it in car magazines too.
@@fp5495 That reminds me of when I was a kid collecting Hot Cars brochures!
I liked the idea of those tail lights until I saw them in person. I'm one of those people that unless lights have an extremely fast refresh rate they seem to flicker. So for most of the past 20 years any GM car with LED tail lights when they come on they seem to strobe and flicker. I don't notice it as much in other brands but especially the early Cadillac tail lights and also the new LED Christmas lights that came out at about the same time for a lot of people it's just like having a strobe light in your face.
People see things at different frequencies and all lights blink but most people don't perceive it so it's not a problem.
But for many people they have the same problem with fluorescent lights but for me it was the first led lights TVs and everything were completely migraine inducing.
There's a simple experiment anybody can do if they are skeptical, turn on your camera phone and point your TV remote at the camera and push a button. You'll be shocked at the bright flickering light that your phone camera lens picks up but that you can't see with your bare eyes. You don't even have to do it in a dark room the camera phone will pick up the strobing white light that the remote uses to communicate with the tv. But for most people that is outside of their spectrum of vision so they never see light coming out of their remote control. It's the same kind of thing there is enough variety in eyeballs that for some people LED lights are absolute torch torture and for other people they can't tell the difference one way or the other.
@@heybravo23 Every month, I couldn't wait for my car mags to be delivered. It was glorious. Delayed satisfaction is lost on today's youth.
It's neat to be able to go back in time and evaluate cars that were around us, that we maybe didn't think twice about at the time. But we can appreciate certain features or whole cars, now that we're many years removed. Thanks for doing this! 🚘
Quite a surprise to see you here.
keep doing these old car videos! every time I check the comments on these older/quirky car reviews, there are tons of people voicing their desire for more! myself included. never stop
He talks to dam much for the video
I always love these 80s, 90s and 2000s cars reviews. It's just wonderful to see what was high performance and high-tech back on these times.
Also, I loved this Deville. I didn't knew about this "new" Deville, only about the 60s one. But boy oh boy, what a wonderful performance sedan!
That's why I love Motor Weeks retro reviews
@@ohguy1991Motorweek is the best car show on tv, ever.
Doug, an interesting quirk I remember Tim mentioning is that when they decided to remove the hood ornament and make a custom grill the night vision stopped working. They figured out that it was the Cadillac emblem that was blocking the IR camera. So they had to custom make the emblem as a cutout. If you notice the emblem is not the usual solid multicolor one but a cut out version that lets the camera do its job (or maybe not).
That makes sense. I wonder where it went. I found the auction for the car online, and they both mention it in the flaws, and shown in the pictures, but the emblem is missing.
I remember when this car was introduced back in 2000, Car & Driver did a complete show with Tim Allen and Jon Moss introducing the car and Tim Allen Design company. Jon Moss delivered the car to Tim at a road course where Tim put it through it’s paces. Cool then and cool now.
I have a friend that owns a standard Develle and it’s amazing just how luxurious it is for such an old car. He has a gauge cluster with a screen, heated and cooled front and rear seats, powered just about everything, and much more. It’s truly a stunning car. If only it was as reliable as it was luxurious
Style killed desirability not the tech
Your last sentence says it all -
Tbh looking back you’re so right. I had a 2000 as my first car for almost a decade, and lookng back at what’s standard in cars nowadays - my deville had them before them all.
Lol that was the first thing I thought of. GM likes to load up their cars with high end features and tech but stuff (like power window regulators ugh) is always breaking.
Rides like you're on clouds..... Until the air ride suspension goes bad😞😞😞
I acquired a 2003 DTS for my mother-in-law. Before she took possession of it I went over it to make sure it was road ready.
That meant road testing it. I really enjoyed it. Plenty of power. Great handling. It has plenty of head turning appeal.
I wish they had made them rear wheel drive and not screwed up the design of the engine that causes the head gasket to blow.
A little bit of aftermarket tweaking could fix those issues, along with an LS engine swap.
The Deville, Seville, and El Dorado were cool looking cars. They deserved to be rear wheel drive.
The Seville's successor STS (Seville Touring Sedan) had RWD 🙂, while the DeVille's successor DTS (DeVille Touring Sedan) kept its FWD 😐
They were both succeeded by the XTS - which had FWD
The El Dorado didn't have any successor
This was when Cadillac was still very firmly in the "traditional luxury" territory, so that's why they kept FWD.
Loved the eldorado
Try AWD.
FWD is a better way to go, for all cars!...superior traction for sure!
I’ve seen this Caddy parked in the Petersen’s parking garage a couple of times. The fixed Brembo calipers really conveyed that this was some special edition or modded model. I was super curious and found Car and Driver article on it. Such a wonderfully odd creation.
What an awesome car! Cadillac started doing cornering lamps in the 60's! These are wonderful cars! Some of these neat features are found in my '04 Buick Park Avenue, too. Body roll is definitely a thing! If the Northstars were PROPERLY maintained, they didn't suffer from the head gasket problems (fixed by '05). I love these big American cars! I'm glad to own Cadillacs and Buicks!
It is absolutely amazing that Cadillac integrated the night vision system into the heads up display. They don’t even do that nowadays
I remember the ads for this, I think maybe Mercedes also had this.
He said infrared as well.😳
I gotta admit what got me hooked on Doug were these old car reviews. This is probably what makes Doug unique in a world of somewhat similar car reviewers
doug seems to dwell on the fact that "older, elderly" folks would buy these cars...in actuality, most owners were not 80ish, more like in their 40s and 50s.
As a black man, I can assure you it wasn’t just old people that wanted this car. I had a 2000 Deville and I thought I was driving a Bentley lol
This was a black man’s rolls Royce cause we couldn’t afford the royce.
I ain't black but I loved these cars back in the day 😂
I wanna modify my 2005 and I agree with you, Bud
I ain't black but I want one lol last of the comfy grandpa cars
@@stevemoore-nx8cqohh my goodness 🤭
I had a 03 Deville it was one my favorite daily’s.
Fun fact. Turn on traction control and spin the tires from a 10-15mph roll on a dirt road onto pavement, traction control will make the car fall on its face but the rpm’s will keep rising. Keep it wot and hit the TC button again and it will basically neutral drop itself and take off like a rocket.
Dumb 16 yo me thought it was the funnest thing ever. Called it my “turbo” button. Fun times.
Use this knowledge with caution.
I’ve wanted to see this specific car reviewed for years but nobody seemed to know about it and that Tim Allen had a hand in making it
me too
That's because anything related to Tim Allen has been canceled all because he has different views than other people.
Doug is here for you
@@reformedgarbage5415 p
I love tim Allen's lt5 impala ss too
I had a Deville back in the day and if I remember correctly the reason the passenger didn't get a dial for the climate controls was because the passenger could only vary the temperature from what the driver picked by 5 degrees or something like that.
It was a good traveling car, kinda like riding in a boat going down the highway.
And it was probably a carry over system from Buick, who put the buttons for the passenger in their door. Same controls, different car
Like riding your living room couch down the highway 🤣
That's exactly what I remember. The manual for my grandfather's old Cadillac had this same system and that was exactly how it was explained in the manual. Passenger could choose "hotter or colder" than the driver's set temp but it didn't really vary that much.
My dad used to have a 1997 Deville and that was to this day the most comfortable car I’ve been driven in. Big ole boat
I've heard that there is a company in the states that offers the upgraded heads, with longer bolts, requiring you to drill into the block, not for the faint of heart.. but if you're an experienced mechanic this solves the fatal flaw of the Northstar... Certainly worth doing on this vehicle!
You dont need to drill into the block, the fix is well known and relatively easy to do, not some obscure aftermarket fix.
@@DrewLSsix it's obscure if you're not from the states..
We only had the LS1, thankfully no Northstar down under.
@@DrewLSsix how to fix ser?
@@christianf4305 The problem was that Cadillac used head studs with very fine threads. These would eventually pull slightly loose, and then the head gasket would blow. The solution is to install head studs from a Chevy LS, which have very coarse threads and clamp perfectly. The problem: The existing head stud holes have to be drilled and tapped and this can only be done with a hand drill. The water passages are VERY close, and it is easy to ruin a block by doing this.
Car Wizard is a channel on here and his shop has done numerous NorthStar head conversions. He has a video on it if you look at his stuff.
It just seems that a company like GM would have tested and determined that the head bolts were wrong before they let them on the street.
They spent BILLIONS on development and this slips through?
When Doug reviews some ultra rare fast supercar : 😒
When Doug reviews a regular 2000s sedan : 😍
More like
When Doug reviews some ultra rare fast supercar : People be like *"I'm wishing death on Doug"*
When Doug reviews a regular 2000s sedan : People be like *"Oh my god, marry me!?"*
@@automation7295 Based. These people who makes these comments are not car guys
L comment tbh
This is the 'Tim Allen Design' trim. It's not actually regular. Best things in these cars were power steering, comfort, and ... smell.
I’m with you there. I hardly ever watch his supercar reviews. I don’t find anything interesting about them. I prefer cars that I stand a possibility of owning to those uber-wealthy status symbol cars.
Absolutely beautiful, the body lines, the beefy stance everything. Tim Allen’s involvement only makes this more special. I think this car has aged exceptionally well, doesn’t look like a car from the early 2000s at all. Front end reminds me of the Mercedes c140 c class
Really? It's one the blandest most soulless looking designs I've ever seen . Could literally be any mass produced car from anyamufacturer
@@paulthomson9014 a big square car in the 2000s? only thing shaped like this is a impala. everything else was curvy and aerodynamic, like the bmw's to hondas. not sure what other brand this could be mistaken for besides a GM. even the fords Taurus or dodge chargers looked nothing like this.... this is the design all the 60yearolds wanted at the time lol and no other manufacture had anything similar.
You're lying to yourself because this car is so obviously dated with its design
@@paulthomson9014 yeah the regular one was bland, I’m speaking specifically about the dtsi, but you’re wrong about the design being “like any other car”. This was a “boxy” sedan in the midst of cars which had no body lines or definitions, and were what I’d describe as curvy blobs
@@yallugly4317 Is having my own opinion really lying to myself? Compared to the e38 7 series, Audi a6, heck even the w220 s class, this car looks far sleeker and more modern. Yeah the front end would obviously look dated, it’s a 22 year old car but look at it starting from the b-pillar and you’d understand what I meant
Doug when he reviews some crazy fast hypercar I will never see: I sleep
Doug when he reviews an old car from 20-30 years ago: real shiiii
You realize Doug is in a different level when Peteresen's fleet is being auctioned at Cars & Bids
Wonder what % he takes.
@@PD-we8vf he mentioned it on one of his more Doug demuro videos. I believe it was a flat percentage of the final sales price maybe like 4-5% if I remember correctly?
@@joelflex maybe different if it was a package deal with peteresens
And yet, despite all his huge success, he's still so obsessed with views and analytics that he keeps threatening to stop reviewing older cars like this. So irritating... :(
I have an 08 DTS it is a beast of a car. Not the greatest around town, gas wise, bun on the freeways, Belt lines, and interstates it is fantastic. Like driving a hot rod couch. Smooth and quiet.
Factory sleepers! Love 'em already but didn't know of this particularly cool one's existence until today. Isn't Cars and Bids just the perfect complement to this channel for some odd/unusual content to surface that would otherwise hardly ever become possible? Very much enjoyed this video, thank you.
Eh, they were quick-ish in their day. Not really sleepers per se, being slightly faster than most 200-ish hp V6 family cars. The 240-280 hp V6 family cars of the early 2000s eclipsed them in straight line performance. But in the early to mid 90s, the Northstar STSs were a little faster than, say, the original LS400 or Q45, and similar to V8 E-Classes, XJs and 5-Series.
Comparing them to the 9-speed or CVT-equipped cars of today, with the insanely fine tuning control of advanced computer controlled systems isn't really fair, though. This was back before variable valve timing allowed broader spectra of power and output was limited by 4 speed automatics. Even wheel slip played a bigger role with less advanced traction control. It's a meaningless comparison.
My $50 tracfone has more computing power than a $20k Silicon Graphics workstation from 1992. Big whoop.
That silver car looks stunning under studio lights. Glad Doug now has more access to studios for better lighting
I remember the a/c in this car worked so good and v8 was so strong. Suspension floated like a cloud and seats were very comfortable. Battery was under the seat was a pain. Trunk space was great. Add some rims to this and candy paint and your a G in Texas 😆
You ain’t neva lied🙌🏾‼️
That cloud suspension was so awesome. Not great for handling, but driving on marshmallows.
And california
My dad had one of these when I was little, i remember feeling like we were millionaires with the rear heated seats and all 😂😂
I counted 2 or 3 on the lot at the strip mall on friday after next lol
Woa! Car review straight outta the Doug Demuro oven! Get it while it's hot!
*And after all these years, it's STILL COOL LOOKING.* 💯
Awesome car, and very cool to see Doug get so excited about this car. He's driven everything under the sun, and he still thinks this DeVille is special (and it is).
This car is one of one, and so is Doug.
Of course he’s excited about it. He’s selling it!
I’ve always loved this model. One of my favorite interiors. Like the color and wheels on this one. Great review.
I like everything about this car except the front: it manages to be both dull and ugly at the same time, the front lights seem out of an old Honda Civic.
So was the DeVille one of if not the first car to have Night vision? Either way it's insanely impressive and deserves a lot of credit, that touch screen is pretty impressive too cause it still works and looks relatively responsive
Looks like GM sourced the same touchscreens Lexus used at the time. Same exact graphics.
Yes, they were the first ones to offer night vision, something they proudly bragged about as at the time you couldnt have a Mercedes or BMW with night vision
I'm curious about the software they used for the infotainment. Jaguars and Lexus of the same time period had similar touchscreen systems that still perform well even today. Far better than the terrible controller based systems in Mercedes and BMW.
@@BadaBing.UCF30 I thought the Buick Reatta was the first with their touchscreen?
@@safiullahqureshi3196 The controller is a lot better than this screen.
I'm 29 and when I first saw the 2000 Cadillac DTS I always wanted one . I ended getting one when I was 27 and loved it. But I sold it because of the covet 19 . I'm planning on getting a 2006 or 07 Cadillac DTS. The cars are so comfortable to ride in.
The amount of technology in this car is crazy for its time. More tech than some of the newest cars. Parking sensors, heated rear seats and digital speed wow.
mercedes had it too in the 220 s class
Night vision also as well as magna ride
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@@nickyj3571 Surprised he didn't' mention the magnetic ride. Was that feature adjustable? i.e. you could make it more hard or soft riding?
The navigation system is so obsolete. The plastic push buttons are horrible. It was the era and I worked inside General Motors Design Staff in the Chevy III Studio on the C5 Corvette at the time.
Thank you for mentioning this taillights on this car! I love that you and I are of a similar age (and oddity) - when this car came out I was the same wide eyed 10 year old kid mesmerized by the then-revolutionary LED glow and fast blinking characteristics that looked like a spaceship at the time. Truly excited by a taillight as a kid - Kind of hilarious to think back on that (although these days LED lighting has become such an important design characteristic on almost every car, definitely not the case back then!). 20 years later and I'm an industrial designer - it's funny how things all make sense with time! :-)
I agree! I always noticed these taillights and thought they were so cool! I didn't know they were just straight LED, like the ones that are common nowadays. I always thought they used fiber optics somehow. For some reason, these lights still stand out today when I see them. They just look different than the current LEDs.
Second that! Was truly amazed by them. Didn’t know about LED technology back then and always referred to them as “digital” taillights due to their definitive ON/OFF sequence
I have an 02’ dts and they are amazing cars. Even stock they are pretty fast especially for the size and age. We’ve also had very minimal issues and we hit 150k miles this summer.
Same here. I've got a 2002 DTS with 145,000 miles --- never had any trouble with it. Fast car, good performance, good gas mileage.
@@bramlintrent1145 Even the stock LD8 Devilles (and later, the DTS that replaced it) don't feel that underpowered, and the gas mileage is decent. A good "work hard, play hard" car.
I LOVED my 2005 DeVille DTS. The DTS trim front bumper with integrated fog lamps makes the front end look so much better. I've had 3 cars with with the Northstar and absolutely loved them. They sound so great! When GM released these engines in the early 90s they really were amazing. People like to hate on them, but once the head studs are upgraded, they are fantastic. I really wish they would have continued development and improvement as well as modernization. Crazy to think these survived relatively unchanged from the early 90s thru 2011. GM was on to something!.... key word, WAS. Lol
You're one of the few people that actually like the Northstar engines.
The headstud fix costs 5k the cars not even worth 1500 in decent shape.
Nah, they were right to prioritize small-block development. They are simply better engines.
I was not that lucky 🍀! My 1999 Cadillac started burning oil at 32,000 miles! Had the runaround with Cadillac. Sued them under the lemon law but got only $2000. I’ll never buy another GM product. Like some many others! I now drive Lexus! Second vehicle! Only one problem! Had to do with an adjustment needed for the braking system. 130,000 miles still runs strong!
Dude, the engine rumble sounds crazy good....
We love the old and quirky car reviews, Doug - keep 'em comin!
Love this review, Caddy has always been so tech ahead. I have a now semi retired 99 Buick Park Ave Ultra, when changing from USA to Imperial, there was no issue as it was a needle on a back round. What is cool about that car is it had rain sense wipers that fell out of favor for a few years.
Cornering lamps were falling out of fashion when this Caddy was built, that was old school luxury. But it is a feature found on Caddy XT4s, it turns on when using the turn signal or if you turn at lower speed with out the signal.
The 4T80E transmission had "Performance Algorithm Shifting"! One of the first ones that uses driver inputs to pick the right gear and shift firmness. In my STS if I braked and started to turn, it would go into 2nd gear before I got back on the accelerator.
Yes, all part of the Northstar System. Haha. Or, at Oldsmobile, the Precision Control System.
@@matthewbowen5841 I just learned that from you! Makes sense, since the Aurora had a de-bored version of that powertrain.
Thank you for still making videos on older cars even though you know they will get less views - your old fan base such as myself appreciates you Doug. You're a real one.
I love it when Doug makes videos on new cars. These old cars are so boring and that nobody cares about them.
I’m pretty sure the views on those videos on new cars would drop as well if he stopped doing these. The people subscribed for older and cool cars would start unsubscribing.
Owned a black DTS for 12 years. One of the BEST road cars I've ever driven. They really spoil you and nothing compares to a Cadillac. I miss this car soooooo bad. 03 DTS with the 320hp version of the Northstar. Had a different VIN for that motor. If ya know ya know.
I always loved this car , because they were mostly owned by elderly people it’s easy to find a nice clean one with LOW KM. They can sound sweet with a proper exhaust the only thing is the Northstar V8 I always hear they have issues.
I owned a 2005 DeVille and loved it! It was the perfect balance of affordable, luxurious and sporty (bought used 2016-2021). It gave me very few problems and was great for a custom sound system. You can even check and clear diagnostic codes from the dash! 1993-2004 northstars had headbolt issues that could be fixed for a high price. 2005-2011 were revised. I still own a 2003 Oldsmobile Aurora with the 4.0L northstar that the previous owner had the headbolt issue fixed. That is the lighter better handling sleeker sporty looking northstar to have in my opinion.
That engine will surely fail just because it’s old doesn’t matter how well it was maintained or how low the miles are. They got a lot right but that engine negated all the positive attributes.
This car has dramatically improved shutlines like I have never seen on a Cadillac before. Whoever made the final prep of this car was out on a mission.
I have a 1998 Cadillac STS, that thing was crazy fast! I also installed a nice flow master muffler on it so it was louder and sounded awesome. I surprised a lot of Honda's in that car. It was also the fastest top speed I've ever driven, 160 MPH on a lonely highway (limiter was disabled). I don't remember exactly how to do it as it's been years, but there is a way to access the computer in those cars through the stereo buttons and put the transmission into a sort of performance mode for much firmer and faster shifts!
Doug, this was an awesome video experience! I love unique cars such as this and hope to see more. Thanks!
Cheers!
Doug is a proper top notch car review guy new & old in depth & enthusiasm is unmatched leaves you knowing alot more information about any said car! Bang on cheers doug
This car will always stand out to me as one of the first cars I ever noticed to have bright-ass led brake and turn signals.
I'm happy that more brands will start doing the turn signal lighting on the side, not just for the drivers, but also for me mostly as a pedestrian, because during the day, it can be hard to see if, or which signal they've got on.
Cornering lights have been available on cars for decades! Don't know why Doug made such a big deal about them. My 1967 Buick Riviera had them.
I drove like a 02 Deville and to this day it's the smoothest driving car I've operated. And I've driven a lot of cars/trucks.
I agree!.
this gave me so much nostalgia. my first car was one of these in 2017. i thought that the parking sensor lights in the roof was the coolest thing ever. Even though the front bumper didnt fit, the coat was peeling above the windshield, i broke the sunroof on the highway, and i blew the water pump up on it after two weeks, i will always miss that car, and i will want another one until I die.
I have one of these, and the parking sensors are so cool😂😂 I love it.
I love how it even has the check engine light on.
I have yet to see a deville without one.
😂 true words
I noticed that too. I owned a 2005 and I think it was just on in this video because the ignition was on, not running. The battery light was also lit.
@@hotandnasty that's a possibility.
At least with my '04 Mary Kay, it's got a misfire on the 7th cylinder and a bad 0² sensor.
The car was off. This is standard procedure.
@@waywithwords3632 you had a 04 mary kay ? Was it pearl white or the mary kay pink ? If it was mary kay pink id like to see it, ive never seen the deville/dts from 00 to 05 in pink.
Doug was so true when he said older people in Cadillac “Driving in left lane with turn signal on”
Years ago I had a '92 Buick Roadmaster. You could tell it was designed for older people because it actually had a warning chime for if you left your turn signal on too long.
@@danmccarthy4700 🤣
I love how this version looks!! So beautiful and simple.
I always loved the look of these. Something tells me this modded Northstar can rev way higher than the advertised 6300 rpm redline to achieve the 400hp number.
Loved this review! Never knew this thing existed. Check out the STS-V, I can't remember if you did that one or not. ALSO The hvac controls on the steering wheel is a no-brainer!! I would rather have those on the wheel than the cruise control, which I never use. Would love more special edition/one-off reviews!
I just purchased a 2001 Midnight blue Cadillac Deville, thanks for the schooling this model is on point, really nice I had engine pulled and sealed.
How is it running how many miles you get it at and how many you put on it since buying? I got a 2001 midnight blue also LOL! Only 60k miles my grandpa owned it for 20 years and never drove it. Worried about the north star engine being unreliable. Small oil leak that’s been there for couple years have to top off oil. Any issues at all so far?
These videos are SO important. Even if regular people don't care about a 20 year old Caddy owned by a drug dealer turned comedian, the rest of us do. This is automotive history and it's good to see these older cars to remind modern car makers what worked back in the day that no longer exists (like redirectable quarter glass)
Amazing! The tech in this car was away ahead of its time and perhaps some of it still is
The DeVilles from 2000 to 2011 were GREAT cars. For 11 years, I owned and enjoyed two of them. Smooth as silk. Powerful engine. Pure class in design - nothing like the PIMPMOBILES that Cadillac is grinding out today.
THIS, is my favorite car review channel.
Doug, cornering lamps were ubiquitous on North American cars aside from econoboxes.
Taurus, Grand Marquis, Delta 88, Caprice, Town Car... All of these, their platform mates, and more had cornering lamps.
They were much more common than they are today.
I had 2002 Seville SLS and loved the smoothness of the engine and suspension. People say RWD would’ve been nice, but in Chicago, FWD was ideal in the snow. I would be able to go 80 MPH in heavy snowfall and slow down like nothing due to the weight. There’s still cars these days that still don’t have the tech/amenities that car had.
I had a 1998 STS around 2004. It had everything except the sunroof. I absolutely loved that car. Should've never sold it. I'm trying to get a DTS right now. I'm so excited just shopping for them. Found a 2003 DTS and also a 2009. But, to be honest the 2003 body style has me all nostalgic, and the one I found has less miles. Only 92,000.
I'm in Chicago too and I can agree😂
Had an 04 (amongst many other North stars) and it would flat out fly in a straight line (300hp was really good back then), rode smoother than anything, and got 28mpg highway, nearly 20 in city. Felt super solid, maybe not compared to an S class, but it was also half the price. If these things were RWD, they would have been real contenders. I have an ES350 now, the spiritual successor to the deville, but dead reliable.
They get so much crap for not being German sporty, not everyone wants that. Smooth, isolating ride and high end torque for highway overtaking are all I want or need. Keep your punishing suspension and tight steering, I drive an ambulance for a living and get enough "road feedback" when I'm at work, I just want to be pampered by my car in my off time. Lots of people do. Stop mocking it.
I totally agree with you ,who told automakers that we all wanted to ride around in stiffly Sprung Race cars I miss the days when you could make a U-turn using only your pinky finger and float across railroad crossings
As long as it turns and stops safe I'm good, don't need to be the fastest around the track, but I do wanna blow some doors off in a straight line (dig, roll or top end)
Minus the good for nothing engines. I would have bought one long ago. Perfect sized sedan
Beautiful Caddy…After seeing this, I feel proud of owning my own mint condition 2007 DTS with 56k on Vogue Tyres. My Pharaohs Chariot as I call it, turns more heads than a new Cadillac model.😉🙂
I had myself a 07 DTS performance. higher horsepower and Gms early magnetic suspension. I wouldn't say it was quick, but it would get you to 100
mph so smoothly and effortlessly it would catch you off gaurd.
drove one the same year and it moves very well considering the size and numbers, that growl!
I’m primarily interested in watching dougs videos on older cars, because its the weird cool stuff of the past that I can potentionally afford and own, anyone else?
Yes, I feel the exact same way, actually I just made nearly an identical comment myself.
I have no interest in any of the over-priced supercars Doug reviews with the exception of older Ferraris, Lamborghinis and such. I typically never watch his videos on modern, $1,000,000+ cars, they just don’t interest me.
I too like cars that I have a hope of being able to buy.
You forgot to mention the massaging seats! Super super rare feature or "quirk" from a car that was made in 2000!!
For when grandma is running REALLY late to church.
Yep the 2000 DeVille was the first car with all LED tail lights I saw back in the day. I thought it was so futuristic looking.
Also.. Doug thought that the Mercedes S Clas W220 was the first to offer LEDs. Hes wrong.
With that diffused appearance, they are still instantly recognizable (and even iconic) to this day.
grandparents had a several pontiac minivans ('04 & '05) that eventually got passed to me, and those had the same backup proximity sensor.
Each time Doug sees a car without big curves and creases he calls it "dull" and "boring". And no Doug, this was far from the old school looking Cadillac, it even alienated some of the last few customers that didn't want to let go of the 70's. The last old school-ish looking Cadillac was the 97-99 Deville, and the last properly old school was the 93-96 Fleetwood.
Exactly, I owned a 2005 and thought it was a somewhat classic take on the big bubbly modern American car. So much better looking than a Lincoln Town Car.
Doug, thank you for reviewing this.
That thing is clean as hell! I’d love to have a full size cruiser like this.
Something else that’s super cool about these Cadillacs is that the digital speed readout is actually projected onto the gauges from the inside of the dashboard
Like the Gen 2/3 Prius's haha
What an amazing car! Sounds great too
I love the Rev sound that Cadillac throw 21:02. Sound very monster...
For a 20 year old car mainly targeted at 80-year old men, these things are surprisingly high-tech.
He missed a few of the features... the seats have a massaging feature, auto rear shades that go up and down, and voice activated/hands free communication.
One of my all-time favorites. This particular one has quite a sleek “Foose-y” sharpness to it, which is quite beautiful.
With out the hideous huge chrome foose wheels.
Oh, wow, this Cadillac looks really nice! Really classy and timeless! Not like many other Cadillacs!
Tim Allen has worked with many auto makers over the years. He has hands on many ford projects. Tim A. Is more of A car enthusiast that loves the design of the car, then just "car collector" or a speed head. He know lots of history of cars from all around the world.
Let me guess, Tim was Black?🙈
Car collectors aren’t car guys at all. They are all greedy rich people tbh
@@drippgxd Name one.
The fact that Tim Allen likes cars doesn't improve my opinion of him. I wondered why he would try to do this with a Cadillac vs. just getting a BMW or something that already has those characteristics, but whatever I guess.
My 2nd car was a 99 Olds Intrigue that had the "baby Northstar" AKA Shortstar 3.5L LX5 V6. It was a pretty potent motor considering the weight it was hauling around and 215 HP doesn't seem like a lot now, but back then it was considered quite a bit. Those motors and the Northstar's also had some technology that wasn't widely seen at the time like limp home mode. Definitely a cool review!
300 Hp is nice
@@DentSideDee71 I can't say that I disagree there lol
I miss my 2002 DeVille DTS, probably my favorite car ive ever owned.
How long did it last you? Why did you sell it? Was it reliable ???
Another Demuro video where he sees something for the first time and thinks it’s a “quirk”, despite it being an old feature. Cornering lamps had been on luxury cars for decades before this car was made.
Yep, same with the touch screen. It was nowhere near as uncommon as he claims they were in 2000.
Doug's the type of guy who's an expert on old people. 😂
Did learn some cool things though - like Cadillac had the guts to put a 400hp V8 into a fwd car.
I own a 2003 Seville STS, it's crazy how different my car is to the Deville. My 6 CD changer is in a lower center console compartment, and my touch screen panel moves out and down to allow me to put a map/DVD in. It has the same Northstar 4.6L V8, super nice sedan
Long live the Northstar V8 (head bolts) 😎
@@aidaaliten8817 stop spamming random numbers
It’s a engine disaster
This growth of "This" is slowing down at quite a rapid rate
Literally haven't watched a doug video in months but this popped up in my subscriber feed and I love it, had a DTS for a little bit when I was 17
Finally a car worth watching!
About damn time he’s done an older-new caddy. I have a 96 so close enough.
96 is miles better looking
They need to start making cars like this again ,simple ,solid ,and beautifully smooth driving , easy to fix !☺
Facts
@@coreyprkr2013cp if both you guys think a deville is easy to fix, then you guys must know about cars
Hi Doug, could you make a video about which cars you’d make a high performance version of if you were in Tim Allen’s position?
i love this generation of deville cause they are SOO damn comfy, a friend of mine had one in high school and the seats were like sitting on a cloud and they ride amazingly (i was surprised because of it being a late 90’s/early 00’s GM product) and i was actually looking at one of these for a daily but the northstar’s got me paranoid
If you like this 5 year body style (00-05’) grab a last year 05’ northstar was fixed by then finally using longer coarser head bolts.
I waited years and years and years for a Cadillac deville review from this guy, who went from new cars reviews to, anything I can review so money can continue coming, which don’t get me wrong, I like
Looks like the enkei wheels that everyone had in highschool in the early 2000s
Always hated it back then and now…aged terribly.