What They Don't Tell You About Climbing Mount Celestia - D&D
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_" 3 out of 5 stars. They demand complete humility. The one thing I do not believe in. But who cares? Food was good and criminals were few. "_
- Chaotic Good review from a Traveller visiting Mount Celestia
“1 star. They immediately dropped me a sea of Holy Water, fuck this place.”
-Chaotic Good Dhampir
Sounds like a b*&$ch to climb
"3.5 stars. Rude employees. Said a bone devil wouldnt possibly be able to go passed that damned water, let alone the first gate. Well jokes on them I did get passed the water. (stung like b**ch though).
Arc Blavatnik Bone Devil in love.
@@patrickdees5256 HEY!!!, FELLOW BAATEZU!
1/5 : MY EEEEEEEEEEYES!
- That one LG Drow.
-The 9 Hells- The Abyss: Technically, it’s an infinite pit
Mount Celestia: Technically, it’s an infinite mountain
The Abyss is the infinite pit.
@@marmyeater
And the 9 Hells is connected to the Abyss, right?
@@couragew6260 No.
@@marmyeater
Just did a quick fact check.
The 9 Hells and the Abyss used to border each other in some sort of planar fashion. Long Story short, Asmodeus did something and now the planes are no longer bordering each other.
@@couragew6260 blood war was pretty huge, i dunno how it works in 5th edition plus
Ahem. "An infinite sea of holy water." Using a gate spell you can FUCK up a vampire, or make a moat of holy water around a castle.
But is it still holy if removed? It would become tainted.
@@johndavidson2365 that's... Not how holy water works.
Castlevania?
@@johndavidson2365 Holy water typically remains Holy Water, provided it's not put into a body of liquid more that's more than half not holy. So theoretically, you could turn all the oceans of a world into Holy Water, provided that you make sure the amount of Holy water you add will be at least half of the end amount of liquid
There might be an intervention from the divine to prevent such a gate opening if the cause is not just. + the security of the realm.
Jazirian's riddle is the entire basis for my Yuan-ti Pureblood Celestial patron Warlock. He is climbing the mountain and got to Uroboros but incorrectly answered the riddle so Jazirian sent him back to the mortal realm to live again and every time he dies he gets another shot at the riddle. But he's never born with memory of his previous life so most of his lives he doesn't even know he's suppose to be looking for the answers. The Yuan-ti character went from Chaotic evil(as yuan-ti tend to be) to lawful good after a chance meeting with a couatl which unlocked his memories of Uroboros(but not his past lives). So he's a Lawful good Yuan-ti Celestial(couatl) patron Warlock. His existence bends the other player's minds because he's not suppose to be possible to exist.
I love the concept of Celestia, an afterlife that demands more of the petitioner than perhaps any other. Celestia is a nice place to live, but that isn't its purpose. One must seek continual self-improvement, the plane bidding you become the best version of yourself. How freaking cool is that? Do you want a chill afterlife? Celestia probably isn't the place for you. Want to achieve enlightenment? Celestia is the place to be!
If you want a chill afterlife, Elysium is the place to go.
I really love this concept myself since there’s a lot of possible character arcs that can tie into this.
The magical restrains from the plane alone can be used as a goal for Wild Magic Sorcerers to find a tuning fork when they’re seeking a cure for their wild magic.
@@TheHornedKing Yeah! Andthat's because your already enlightene.
IF your lawful good. A very strict n narrow view of good and correct at all times with the slightest deviations causing major punishment or... extermination... Sounds greaaat... For herd animals.
@@bayoubilly5176that isn’t exactly what Lawful good is. An extremely general basis of lawful good is that you follow a personal code, and aim for an honest lifestyle.
Jocat’s video on alignments is a good introduction on each alignment:
ua-cam.com/video/S7ANzMWd4xI/v-deo.html
"WotC probably doesn't publish much on the upper planes because they aren't as interesting as the lower planes"
the upper planes: so fling yourself off this cliff into the realm of one of the creators of the multiverse and answer a riddle he asks you
Average Lower planes fan VS average Upper Planes enjoyer
Yeah, that's why in the 4th Edition, storm giants were evil and metallic dragons were neutral, they felt they should focus on outlining monsters that could be presented as enemies of the PCs.
@@briancorvello3620 to be fair, Lawful Good show up pretty commonly in the monster manual because Lawful Good extraplanar beings and monsters can be extremely antagonistic. I mean even in this video Mount Celestia is very hostilely designed and the inhabitants of the upper mountains sneer at anyone that isn’t a fucking Buddha.
@@InquisitorThomas Oh, definitely, celestial beings tend to be uppity and arrogant snobs, no argument there. But Mt. Celestia is hardly the only Upper Plane with a hostile environment. Bytopia and Beastlands can be pretty nasty too. Even Elysium is dangerous because of the euphoria. Spend too much time there, you will NEVER want to leave.
@@InquisitorThomas Admittedly, it's probably because you don't belong there. Maybe Mt. Celestia isn't necessarily a good place, just a lawful place that has successfully implanted their morality in the material plane to justify their rule over its people...
Or maybe Mt. Celestia is an entire world unto itself - and you can't really generalize what goes on in that plane as a whole. It's just a place... or is it?
8:22, this actually sounds like a good character arc where a Wild Magic Sorcerer is searching for a tuning fork to Mount Celestia in an attempt to be cured of their wild magic
And if they do so they will instead become a Divine Soul
"The tip of the mountain kinda glows and beckons you to climb it."
Everyone on the plane: Lämp
Cool, can we get the Chaotic good celestial realm next?
Is that not the "elf heaven"
Arborea is a pretty cool place
Witch one: Arboriea, Yesgard, The Beasts Lands?
@@nicolaezenoaga9756 any we can get. The fact that there are that many is more than I knew.
@@wintersking4290 There is only one realm of pure Chaotic Good- Arborea (aka Arvandor or Olympus, but those are actually realms within the plane belonging to the Elven and Olympian gods respectively)
Ysgard is the realm that is both Chaotic Good and Chaotic Neutral (it's basically the realm of Norse mythology), while the Beastlands are the realm of Chaotic Good and Neutral Good.
Likewise, Mt Celestia is only the plane of pure Lawful Good- there are two other planes that are partially Lawful Good (Arcadia- LN- and the Twin Paradise- NG)
I would love to take a character on a Divine Comedy kind of journey beginning in the Nine Hells and ending at the peak of Mount Celestia.
“You never go full Dante!”
Please actually go full Dante. XD
“2 out of 5 stars, it was okay but too much smugness.”
-My Chaotic Neutral Character writing a travel review on Mount Celestia.
As if devils aren't smug.
@@letsgobrandon4175 Devils are also Lawful, and thus Smug.
Who isn't smug? ;)
@@InquisitorThomas I've met some pretty heckin' smug chaotic neutral rogues. It isn't a lawful thing.
@@letsgobrandon4175 yeah, it’s kind of a stereotype for lawful good to be smug
This deep lore series is awesome, great work. I'd love a Bahamut vid to go along with the Tiamat video.
Yes! This!
A cautionary tale for those thinking Celestia is all peace & softness... A Tanar'ri army once invaded the holy mountain. All that's left of them is a mile wide vertical crater
Throwing yourself off a peak in the 4th layer is even harder than it sounds. Because your intentions would have to be absolutely pure. No selfishness. No doubts. No scheming. Any impurity is unacceptable. You will not be granted passage.
But you DID just throw yourself off a mountain for selfish personal gain, and I'm not so certain that an Archon is going to save you if you just tried to game the system.
That's the point of the other tests, to prepare for the next one, clearing your intentions and looking to be a better version of yourself, more humble, calm, generous and more, to self reflect on who you are and what are you doing and what is your place in the multiverse... If you think about it, the multiverse is just vast, infinite and not even the gods know how far it stretches... How is possible for you to even make the difference for the whole if your entire existence is miserable? The answer is because you are not doing to change the multiverse, but because is just simple the right thing to do
In all fairness, most of this stuff doesn't really stand up much to logical scrutiny. I actually like to play up the apparent hypocrisy - like why do these planes get to decide what "good" is? Isn't it pretty sketchy how the people of the material plane are duped into not deciding for themselves what's good for them?
I like to see Mount Celestia as not just one faction but a unique location which houses many factions.
Also, if you watch AJ Pickets vid on Mt. Celestia he'll say how some lore states that petitioners to the Outer Planes lose their memories when they get there - which is actually kind of terrifying. It implies what you did in life didn't really matter in the end - that your soul was pre-destined to go to Mt. Celestia.
So if your soul is already destined for an outer plane, why bother adhering to a certain morality? If you're already considering this and you're already destined for the Nine Hells, why not do everything in your power to extend your life and save yourself?
You have to be the male lead from crouching tiger hidden dragon o:
@@monsieurdorgat6864 They had a better mythology in 2nd edition. Much more cut and dry and your actions did matter etc(evil could be good etc).
@@monsieurdorgat6864 but also pretty sure if I ended up in celestia ... I'll be a lantern forever.
I had an idea of an arc for an NPC demon character who is neutral good (long story how they got there from their previously chaotic evil state) at the time to essentially climb mount celestia as a means to prove their willingness to reform. Needless to say, the holy water didn't take too well as not only is the demon... a demon, but is also one of the fire aspect (Homebrew) and is vulnerable to water. (Enough that rain deals damage) As part of the test he was given the unlimited capacity to resurect after death (The demon is immortal, but falls back to his demiplane each time he dies usually. A whole summoning ritual is required to bring him back or he can cast his own spell after 2 days of meditation (48 minutes of regular plane time), but the immense pain just getting to the island would have been immense.
Other player characters get to intereact with this demon on their journey and recieve some great wisdom and if the player characters have previously engaged with this NPC and have helped and that the NPC has had a positive experience, the demon NPC will join the player characters and help them on their journey.
I'm thinking for the fourth mountains test, the NPC will have to sever their connection to the demi plane rendering them mortal before taking the leap of faith.
I can't wait for the next video to get some more ideas! Plenty of stuff to read in the meantime though.
The mountain is not for the Neutral Good, it is for the Lawful Good.
Also, any demon that stops being Chaotic Evil stops being a demon- as in, they literally transform into something else.
(unless that stuff too is HB of course)
@@jonathancampbell5231 The demon is technically extraplanar (Technically a kind of demigod (Does not obtain their power through worship though), all homebrew). Only calls themselves a demon as they don't want to call themselves anything else until they have reformed. Their looks never change in the process. Think fire lord Imix but with no mouth (Like a protoss in starcraft) and dart stone plate armour. Maybe like you would imagine a lava elemental to look like, but instead of lava or fire it is plasma like in a star that runs through their veins. There are many demons like this one (in a homebrew plane), but this is the only one to have reformed in this way and only one of few to have a demiplane.
Part of the reformation process is becoming lawful, which is essentially the hardest part the demon has to come to terms with (Though they want to)
The demon did not reach the plane through normal means after all, so they can be any alignment on entering
Daggg... neverminding for a moment the finer details of what makes a demon a demon and what happens if they try to not be one (which are all good points in and of themselves by the way), this character arc is a very intriguing one! I hope the demon/ former demon will be able to reach his full potential and manifest the good in him.
It’s nice to get out of the darker, evil parts for a little bit. I like to watch your vids to relax, and sometimes fall asleep to your vids. The “good” categories are always so calming. I can’t wait for the vids covering each mountain!
My drow bard took a short cut. she helped redeem Zariel and asked if she could go with her to mt celestia. Zariel knowing that her ultimate goal was to free her people from the tyranny of Lolth considered that a worthy enough goal to bypass the tests. While she still has to maintain the rules of the realm and continue towards her goal of saving her people she basically got a free pass right to the top and was told on death she would become an angel like Zariel. This was post game story. one of the only characters of mine I actually retired because how can I top that ending right?
All true dnd fans know that the creatures at the peak of mount Celestia are Baby Harp Seals
Love the videos of Mount Celestia. Wish someone would make a book or pdf for it with all lore on the mountain, the inhabitants and anything regarding it. Definitely useful for DMs who want to incorporate celestials as an ally or enemies.
Might we ever get a Feywild/Plane of Faerie video? I remember that the Shadowfell video was the result of a poll, and the other option was the Feywild? Does this mean we aren't getting one? Or will we have to wait until another sponsorship?
"The mountain reveals the harshest truths in our souls." - Taric
Dude I admire your passion for dnd topics so much. Like I honestly dont think I would have gotten back into dnd and got the courage to start running my own games if it wasn't for how glorious you always make it sound. I was terrified and here I am a year into dming and its going great and now I'm even writing my own stories, dungeons and making my own monsters. I appreciate you, thanks my friend.
The 1st layer is my favorite. It's where dogs go when they die.
So what have we learned about Mt. Celestia?
Really bad for tourism.
Unless you like sky-diving, Mountain 4 seems to encourage that ;)
@@ThisNameIsBanned Essentially, if you want to move up, you need to be into base jumping.
@@roepi Except your intentions have to be absolutely pure and perfect. No doubts. No selfish desires.
I suppose if you are impure, you will simply hit the ground. Unless an Archon decides to save you
@@tomc.5704 If you're impure you wouldn't get to the fourth layer at all. You'd need at least three spiritual epiphanies to reach that high. Then you'd need to actually find the spot, which doesn't happen until you are ready to be tested.
Sounds like a nice place to visit but not to stay if you want to enjoy yourself. But I love the idea of an afterlife of self-improvement rather than a paradise. Awesome video as always!
In Fizbin's Treasury Of Dragons, it says that Bahamut and Tiamat created the First World of the Material Plane that was sundered into the multiverse.
And other D&D books have their own creation myths. You’re supposed to pick which one you want to be true as a DM. Or partially true. Or entirely false and it’s just someone’s legend. The story in Fizban Treasury is just a dragon story. There is as little to as much truth as the DM wants. It’s not official. The devs said as much.
Mount Celestia sounds like the place you'd absolutely want to go.
My paladin after actually paying attention to a sermon: I need an alignment change
I love this, I wish there was more coverage on Celestia and more stats and adventures done in the upper planes.
As much as I love lore on the outer realms. Will we get one regarding the feywild?
My warlock is a fiend warlock with asmodeus as the patron. As long as I hear about the great coutal jazrain I can begin my quest to become a celestial warlock under him. That’s going to be a blast if I get there
Technically, since he is a god, you would be a cleric or paladin. Not a warlock, but I assume deities can have warlocks, albeit it sounds weird if the warlock agrees philosofically and praise their god as a follower of their faith would which might not be your case.
@@Ditidos I see it as a deity see’s the potential in the mortal in having him/her an ally, while the mortal doesn’t like what the deity represents, but sees the power they can provide. They both then make a deal either soul taking or servitude in some form. Come on only sadistic and weird fuckers actually like satan
I can't wait for yeenogus video to come out, even though there's some juicy all be it nasty and morbid lore with him, he's a morbid favorite
Wait, so if Lich decides to seek enlightenment can technically climb mount celestia?
He would need to make a deal to not die in the holy water but yea if they think he is genuine
Jeserian- to assend you must answer my questions 3.
Player - ok
Jeserian - what is your name?
Player - *PC name*
Jeserian - what is your quest?
Player - to reach the top of Mount Celestia.
Jeserian - what is your favorite color?
Player - blue.
Jeserian - very well you may pass.
So to go to the 5th layer I just have to do a leap of faith....we work in the dark to serve the light.
"You just don't climb the mountain. First you have to be philosophically enlightened, then you have to seek spiritual perfection. How in the Hell are you supposed to do that?" -I believe the more accurate question is (literally) 'How in the Heavens are you supposed to do that?'
I think I'd be happy in that Halfling Heaven. Good food, good friends, a nice home, and honest work.
Yeah, getting to Mount Celesta isn’t too hard at all you only need to cast a 7th or 9th level spell :^).
If your 19-year-old wizard can't learn fireballs by tomorrow and plane shifts by next week, you're WORTHLESS! :)
Be remember that deities in every plane could simply say "NO" and you fail.
It’s only easy comparatively… any schmuck can become an archmage with enough practice, but it takes real mettle and goodness to pass the trials of Celestia.
"It can be a whole campaign"
I was literally just thinking that. That would be interesting.
Plot twist : One of the party members is chaotic evil and becomes the ultimate giga Chad lawful good MF in celestia
🤣🤣🤣
What they don’t tell you about climbing Mount Celestia is that “climbing Mount Celestia” is definitely the title of somebody’s clop fic. And now you’re cursed with that knowledge.
The eightfold path….. well that means something completely different in warhammer fantasy
This is a really cool thing for a succubus to do (as they are the only redeemable fiend).
So mt celestia is just dante's mt purgatory, but if you live there its basically equestria
Love these. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Any chance in the future you can do a tiefling vs aasimar video in the future?
I love that you said it could be a whole campaign just climbing the mountain, Id love it if there was a campaign climbing the mountain.
You should do a Strahd Von Zarovich lore and secrets, there is so much that 5e doesn't talk about. Maybe even doing videos about all the icons. Lord Soth, Drizzt, Acererak, and maybe Azalin Rex or Vecna just to name a few.
Just going through the first four (five?) floors is a whole adventure by itself... For a level 17-19 party, this would be enlightening (no pun intended).
I don't believe that every petitioner to find themselves climbing the slopes of the mountain were Lantern Archons. Most souls were "reborn" in a form similar to their mortal one. Only the more Lawful and Good souls came back as lanterns.
I too find it odd that there's a deep cleaving to old lore that has been openly contradicted. Particularly when it proves the "benevolent" powers of being unabashedly hypocritical... Perhaps that is the point? Either way, it seems like you should just find a god with at least one foot in Neutrality to serve, as the extremes are always approaching horseshoe-theory territory.
@@blackguard5883 Hypocritical? I'm not seeing it.
@@blackguard5883 the problem is that most people aren't really all that "good". We're mostly neutral. We may give to charity, but we make sure that we can eat first. We have plenty of needless distractions we waste money on. We argue with each other about stupid things.
That's why even the people that do make it to Mt. Celestia, don't make it to the top.
People also forget that Law and Chaos are opposed just as much as Good and Evil. The upper planes may handle that difference better than the lower, but that doesn't mean that someone more to the right of the Great Wheel would find the mountain all that "heavenly"
@@tentacledhorror it's fantasy world in a game, it's not supposed to be a realistic or accurate morality compass.
Also, consider that charity does nothing to actually end poverty, it perpetuates it and allows it to continue to exist in a system which creates it. Tossing a coin to a beggar does not solve the problem, it is instead the edifice which creates beggars needs that restructuring.
@@plastictouch6796 "Good" in D&D terms can best be viewed as selflessness. Acting to help others, even if it brings harm to oneself. "Evil" is essentially the opposite, acting in your own self interest, even if it means hurting others. Neutral characters would help if they have extra, or hurt others when needed, but wouldn't necessarily go out of their way to do either.
Either way, it's a sliding scale, and not all "good" people are trying to get to the top of Mt. Celestia, just like not all "evil" people are out sacrificing babies to Asmodeus.
Also, it's not just an up/down scale, Law and Chaos factor in too. Charity isn't just giving all your stuff to the first beggar you see, it could also be giving to programs that help people, inviting homeless in to your home, giving them a job when no one else would. How one chooses to help would help indicate where one falls on the Law/Chaos spectrum.
Lunia sounds perfect for me and my writing. I have zero desire to go up that mountain and would love to sit quietly in a little mansion with a window overlooking that beautiful sea. What a dream vacation.
Thank you for these planescape videos, can't wait for the day you have one for each of the outer planes
This makes me want to write a short story about an Illusion wizard attempting to climb the Mount.
My Chaotic Noble Fairy Warlock character would be like "Humility and no flying, sorry what!? The audacity!", and then complain to her archfey patron/mother in a very "But mooom!!!" way.
I once wrote a short story about a LE ranger climbing Mount Celestia. She reaches the sixth layer - and nearly becomes LN - before getting her head lopped off (after which she's reincarnated as a slightly better person).
The paths of Mount Celestia are a very nice concept, and following one of them would definitely be interesting for some PCs.
Putting aside the paths, Mount Celestia may appear to be too peaceful a place to offer any challenge for adventurers. But that's not necessarily the case. PCs who're not especially law-abiding yet have to visit Mount Celestia for some reason could easily come into conflict with the locals. While fighting the archons and the other defenders of the plane wouldn't be much fun, having to outwit them could be quite interesting.
Now I want to play in a campaign about climbing Mount Celestia.
Been waiting for this. I know of the test in the 4th layer since I saw the video on couatls and Jazirian. I even Remembered the Riddle cuz i thought it was so cool.
Does he give a specific riddle to everyone or is it unknown?
Doorhinge Oh I meant the riddle thats supposed to tell you how to get past the 4th layer with the whole failure thing. The Riddle he talks about towards the end of the video is not mentioned in the video about couatls.
@@nadavzip Do you mind reminding me what the riddle was? I was gonna look it up but don't have time later
EPIC SAWIKI Virtue untested is mearly innocence. Untempered iron can never become steel. Each journey is a journey unto death, but each death is a rebirth. Only through failure can one go on. As the snow melts into the stream, and the stream flows to the rivers and the rivers into the silver sea so do lives flow into each other. From the sea to the clouds and back to the rain all lives return. Life’s cycle returns again and again untill after some time all spirits are released beyond the vault of the heavens. The forgetfulness that ease its pain is the greatest blessing of the merciful powers.
@@nadavzip this sounds more like a piece of wisdom than a riddle
*Throws myself off the 4th layer*
🎶Now I'm free🎶
🎶Free falling🎶
A lot of it sounds like Chinese mysticism. Cultivating chi and meditating to achieve a higher state of mind.
Great video once again, always look forward to seeing these. Not able to play any D&D this is the next best thing. Keep up the good work 👍
Edit: I just realized I've seen 99% of all of your D&D videos 🤣 like always keep up the good work
Oh I get that heaven IS A PAIN IN THE ARSE
Love the videos, Rhexx! I just picked up your PDF About dragons, Great stuff. Lots of inspiration
the most humble person of man kind is you Mr. Rhexx and i believe you would not have issues walking mount Celestia!
i love the feathered serpent he is such a wonderfull creature his soul is bright like the sun
The title of this video is so specific, it already tells me everything
Erm, just FYI you make steel from Molton iron and turning tempered iron into steel is impossible. As melting it undoes the tempering. Sorry don't want to be a dick but it bugged the metallurgist part of my brain.
If you don't know the riddle of steel, Crom will throw you from Valhalla, but that's another plane.
:50 *laughs at ishgard from FFXIV being the home of uncorrupted holy goodness and law* 😂😂😂 (super interesting vid and very helpful, I just found that super funny in context)
Chaotic good is my goal in life.
This reminds me of a story I read about an evil campaign where the players ended it by literally leading the armies of the lower planes united against Mount Celestia. It’s interesting because the dm clearly didn’t know all the insights you’ve given us here or gave the players ways to circumvent the sheer amount of obstacles for evil in this plane
Sounds impossible for even a neutral army to ascend the mountain lmao.
@@J0eMega yeah it really does, but as I said, if the dm doesn’t know these facts about the plane, or the party had some McGuffin (I can’t remember every detail of it, just the general things, it’s been a bit since I read the story) then they could still ascend it. I remember they literally brought the entirety of the lower planes together to besiege the plane, so they had some serious backup, this was like level 20 evil campaign endgame
@@jusquanorthwind1016
Who’s “they”? I saw a comment about the uniting the lower planes to besiege mount celestia bit. The comment said something about how “the dm probably didn’t know all those aspects of the plane” lol.
@@J0eMega I was talking about a d&d story I read a long time ago, it was an evil campaign and the players were attacking mount celestia with the help of the forces of the lower planes. I don’t have any idea where it is anymore because it’s been years since I read it but discussing the plane of good made me remember that story
“They” being the players in the story
@@jusquanorthwind1016
Ah. Dm probably didn’t know all this info lmao.
i love how much and detail you go into on plans barley touched on. please do all the plans with this level of detail...
16:27 this sounds like ego death. One of my favorite things about RPGs is that they let you experience other viewpoints, and I like learning about philosophy and testing it out with a new character.
My current Pathfinder character is a monk/cleric who grew up essentially Taoist, but fell to worshipping the Great Old One Hastur. He's trying to break away from the King in Yellow by returning to the wisdom he learned in his youth, and cultivating divine power within himself. He had to go through ego death to erase the Yellow Sign Hastur had written on his heart, and to bring out his own divine spark.
Now not only does he grant himself and his students spells as if he were a god, his alignment counts as whatever alignment benefits him the most, as in giving himself up he can become whatever he needs to be.
I think this is THE video that i've been most waiting for
Diogenes just chillin on the top of the mountain
So happy to get some lore on Good aligned planes.
That would require that Wizards remember the Upper Planes and celestials are a thing. I wouldn't hold your breath.
Good news, this video armed you with the knowledge to do it yourself.
I noticed that art of Ishgard, i appreciate it
Imagine going to Heaven and finding out it's an infinite rat race/climb and you're starting at the bottom.
With the mention of Jasyrian... I wonder if He and Ahriman were both Promordial Celestial Dragons - perhaps the only two that survived... something... and they basically created the multiverse from within the Phlo - The Phlo thus possibly being creation-matter in it's most cosmic of forms (possibly also why it's so damn flammable). It's... Energy. Substance. Were as if you go far enough out, you have the far realms that seem possibly empty of the Phlo.
I always click on your videos immediately, they make my day! Keep it up!
Hope you one day cover Bytopia, even if only briefly. I like to think that examining a plane and those closest to it help reveal small but perhaps vital details and differences among the alignments.
So, the moral of this episode is “Rocks fall, you all die.” 😆
I'd really like a video on star elves, my dm has them as a main plot point in our campaign
finally.. i've been waiting.. for 500 years...
Lovely made video. Can't wait for the next one. Thanks.
Thanks for your time rhexx
I've seen enough.
Take me to the abyssm.
Celestia is too suffocating.
“From my point of view the Jed… I mean Archons are evil!”
@@InquisitorThomas Only a fiend thinks in absolutes.
@@InquisitorThomas anakin asmodeus is evil!
all these airborne creatures are gonna drop down on the sides of the mountain after one wizard changes the weather. as for climbing the mountain itself, the use of explosives is advised
Lawful good guy looking over Elysium: "Damn, I knew I choose the wrong alignment!"
14:10 That also do not seem like a correct interpretation.
Suffering, inflicting self-harm... who inhabit that plane? The Cenobytes?
It's called the Path of Renunciation. The last requirement is referred to as the "mortification of the flesh". I assume it uses the definition of mortification as " the action of subduing one's bodily desires" since you can pick between refusing to speak, have intimate physical contact, eat (within reason, probably a bread and water situation) or flagellation, which I assume can just be any form of causing yourself active discomfort. The point I assume is the shunning of physical pleasure while still pursuing acts of goodness (always helping those who ask), showing that it is truly selfless behavior.
@@elegantoddity8609 Being selfless coud not mean doing harm to yourself. Not without a good cause.
One thing is a martyr, another a masochist.
@@Javier-rm6ql True, there is a line between these things. As....odd, as it can be, I'm gonna quote from the Book of Exalted Deeds source book
Vows of chastity, like those of poverty or abstinence, are rooted in the belief that giving up the enjoyment of a
good and natural thing can have positive spiritual benefits, not derived from an attitude that they are evil.
To give example. "The Path of Mystic Union stresses meditation, cleansing, emptiness, fasting, and inducing trances to search for visions. The resulting insights provide a +1 wisdom bonus." Similarly the Path of Renunciation, no matter how you fulfill it, makes you tougher, and at the end of the day it's completely optional to do it like that (maybe you are repenting for a past screw up).
Yeah my problem with the 4th layer’s test is that it isn’t a sacrifice, because the way it’s described there’s no cause to jump off the cliff besides a leap of faith, and even then it’s not really that because you have to realize your own smallness in the universe, so it’s really just a glorified suicide attempt.
@@InquisitorThomas Well, there might be. Usually the peaks of the mountains are topped by monasteries and cathedrals to various gods of lawful good, and the local archon lord is always wandering about trying to help people pursue self-perfection (the theme of the place). And both those places do have answers, it's just that those answers tend to be confusing. No one is going to lie, but that doesn't make the truth more comprehensible.
Also I don't think that it's really "recognizing your smallness" and more "submitting to a higher power". It's like a divine version of a trust fall.
honesty living on mount celestia sounds like hell
So now I have this idea to drop my players off on an island. The only other inhabitants are an escaped devil and his an angelic "parole officer" whose sole job is to make sure the devil is going out of his way to do good.
How to speedrun mount Celestia. Step 1) be a warforged character. Step 2) choose the path of renunciation. Step 3) Profit.
To ascend what must you seek only to cast aside? A: my self
I want to know more about the mortals, pilgrims, dangers and economics of the realm. I have no idea what the danger is. Where does the food come from? Who are these pilgrims? How many mortals are there? What do the cities look like and who built them?
5:59 if anyone trying to be good can live there, what about creatures that are known to be not only evil, but deceitful as well? Like if there was a green hag claiming they want to be good, would they trust it and let them stay? If they trusted an evil creature too blindly and were wrong, they might cause a lot of destruction within that realm. Do they just know when someone is genuinely trying and when it is a cover-up?
Always pumped for another great video!
Hey MrRhexx! I love your videos!
I know you may already have a queue of topics to talk about but I'd love to request (whenever possible) a video about Aasimars, since they are my favorite race and I'd like to know what kind of lore you can uncover about them :D
Rhexx your videos are amazing. Thank you so much for doing what you do, you're a huge inspiration to me!
Also great name, I LOVE WC3!
Another great video another request for dwarves and magic runes please.
17:42 "Throwing myself off was part of the test?! Well fuck me sidewa-"
Sooo... Uhmmm... Ouroboros is a place where word becomes flesh... Sooo... What if you get there and are so overawed by the initial sight of the place that you let slip with something like "Holyshit!" or "Holyfuck!"
Saying holy shit on Ouroboros is the Cosmic Brown Note, and every single Deity will have to use the bathroom. However there are a handful of God Level Bathrooms in the multiverse, and the battle to get to the Godly toilet will likely destroy multiple material planes.
I hope we get a campaign like Avernus in Mount Celestia
Probably won’t because WotC has no real creative talent anymore. It’s the same shit always. Fight devils here, fight evil god monsters there, fight undead here.
Check out those 2e Planescape adventures. Best damn adventures out there by far.
@@razzelmire2008 Thanks! Maybe I can convert them into 5e.
This sounds like a really interesting campaign for me and my Catholic buddies