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I’m picturing a VERY bold trader establishing a trade route between the Green Fields and Erackinor- buying fabrics in the Green Fields and selling it to the Dwarves for 5X profit, then bringing back cheap dwarven crafts and selling them in the Green Fields or other towns in the 3rd Heaven for solid prices. Seems like a quick way to build up a LOT of gold pieces quickly 🤣
The top of the mountain could be missing. I mean, think of the Two Dragons creation story. The top of the mountain might lead to Jazirian's vision of the world, but as long as Ahriman's around, she can't actualise it, so it's in a state of "Coming Soon, to a Mountain Near You". Souls that reach it might act as a vote/pressure towards Benevolent Order; and becoming part of the plane might be literal. As in, you form another miniscule step that the plane takes towards that vision with your essence. Or, from a more Grimdark perspective, the place might be a trap of a being whose idea of a perfect meal is a very discipined, wise, nice person. So the 6 heavens are the seasoning, and the 7th is the plate:P
Well, Ahriman/Asmodeus promotes atheism only to consume the souls of the atheists in the trap door under the 9th layer of hell, so I really wouldn't be surprised it's something similar. But then again, considering how difficult it is to get to the peak and how few reach it, it seems extremely inefficient and doomed to failure in light of Ahriman's equivalent approach.
@@endymionselene165 The top of the mountain is described as "simultaneously perfect immortality and perfect extinction, a oneness with goodness". So for freedom liking types, it is a bit horrific since it's the complete destruction of the individual. To others though becoming "one" with the very essence of good can be seen as the highest reward and the obtaining of perfection.
@@elegantoddity8609 Yeah maybe I’m just Chaotic but some of the virtues that Mount Celestia holds up as good seems like it can easily be twisted as something tyrannical and authoritarian: Work will set you free, you must be willing to die for the goodness of Mount Celestia, Suffer until you’re beaten into the ideal individual that Mount Celestia views as correct for the sake of “Self Betterment” and “Enlightenment.”
@@InquisitorThomas That is true. There are however Archons whose main job is upholding the definitions of concepts and ideals and preventing them from being twisted by the forces of evil. Word Archons.
AJ Pickett has an interesting theory on what's at the top of the 7th layer of Celestia, which would be a gateway out of this reality. Much like the Obyrith came into D&D's universe from their own dying universe, this would be the last bastion to save the remnants of this reality when it is eventually and inevitably destroyed by the spreading destructive entropy of Demons and/or Negative Energy. The emergency escape route, so to speak, which would explain why it is so well guarded and secretive. You really wouldn't want that type of knowledge to fall in the wrong hands, which could doom a whole other universe (i.e. mind flayers, to name just one example). In this regard, Zaphkiel might be the guardian of this final solution and maybe the only one to know the key to its destruction to make sure only the worthy leave this reality in its ultimate moments.
@@zyfigamer I mean protecting the multiverse needs sacrifices it could be stuff like greyhawk, athas ect spheres or even altarnate seven heavens of celestia some big stuff
I have heard that at the very top of the mountain, in the center of chronius, there is a portal. This portal leads outside of the known multiverse. Just like the shard of ultimate evil that brought the oberyth from their dying multiverse, the worthy are already saved from this doomed multiverse. When the multiverse itself will die, the worthy will be saved.
I'm assuming that you just merge with the plane when you enter; but then, how is that one archon comming in and out? ... Also, I get the impression that the fact that it seems terrifying is intentional: You have to have enough faith in the mountain to be willing to enter.
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I've said this before and I'll say it again. Climbing the mountain could be a whole campaign, and I think that's how it's meant to be. It's a shame that's kind of been lost, and isn't specified in 5e, even a brief description and what pantheons live on which layer. Perhaps they could even leave the last layer blank for the DM to describe and write, making each journey up the mountain unique. No disrespect to Descent into Avernus, but I think it's cooler to have a layer-scaling journey across a plane than having an entire campaign set on just one layer of Hell.
Don't worry they'll have a supplement eventually for it if they don't come out with a whole new version by then(so they start over with their supplements). If you look back to 2nd edition. Omg... The supplements were insane. Pretty sure they are aiming for that dispersal again. Most profitable.
Ive already thought up multiple campaign for mount celestia as a full roleplay focus campaign, shadowfell campaign and an abyss campaign (trying to over throw one layer leader while working for another). My group seemed more interested in the shadowfell and the abyss one if its letting that one drow god get that layer back from orcus.
@@Kris-wo4pj I've run a shadowfell campaign as well, it's quite interesting. It was set mostly in Gloomwrought using the 4e Gloomwrought & Beyond supplement but home-converted for 5e is that what you're using as well?
I picture my first dnd character that was a human Paladin has made it to Mount Celestia and became a Planes Walker considering I made a version of him in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, pathfinder and 5e. It's become a personal tradition and adds to his mythos.
I get the impression that Celestia is the most dimensionally complex of the Outer Planes. Bahamut's Palace is a perfect example: somehow it is simultaneously in multiple different mountains, while also being a physical place that wanders the Plane. The way the Dwarven pantheon melds with Celestia is also very unique. So yeah, while far from a lore expert, Celestia seems very complex on a dimensional level. Fascinating.
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Solar Angels are absolute beasts (I would love a video on them). My current Paladin is seeking to become a Solar (at least its power) in the same way that some seek to become liches
I love this series about Mount Celestia. I know that knowlegde about the lower planes comes up more often in most dnd games, but I've always been curious about the Seven Heavens. One topic that'd been mentioned here were the Solars, I want to include lore about them in my campaign. Do you have plans on making a video on them, and possibly the other angels?
I find it quite cute how Bahamut, in his Fizban Avatar, feigns slight dementia and senility, while in his young Monk form, he's a hot cracker-jack with knowledge beyond his implied years. Maybe he keeps so many "Cottages" on different levels, so that when Fizban, he can still find a place to sleep, if he forgets where he parked the last time... :)
A thought on Chronias is that its name might be a hint to its nature: Time. Like how Mertion is the mountain of warriors and is named after Mars. Even its description as being great fields brings to mind the Field of Mars just outside the walls of Rome where the legions were assembled. What exactly would it have to do with time? No idea.
One really interesting concept that may apply to Bahamut's pallace is the 4rth dimension projection. I'm sure that if they knew more about this when the whole Mount Celetia was created, that would be the case for the whole thing. You see, the montais climbing is an elightment path, not a psysical one, only ocne you have enough enlightment you are able to see, walk and have a projection in the higher levels, wich would mean that they all inhabit the same space, the only thing you are doing is opening new sensorial doors that would allow you to see beyond a veil in a new dimension, and once you are worthy to open this new door in yourself, you are also worthy to walk in that ground. its like 2d to 3d, every 3d object may have a 2d projection that doesn't make sense, but you can't peek the 3rd dimension, you can only understand it's projection in your's dimention Yeah, sounds like those DMT elves stuff, but its something to think about. Bahamut might appear in every level because his sole existence is engraved in the concept of each reality/dimention/level. There's a lot of ground to explore in this point of view, you could also apply this to the feywild and shadowfell if you wanted, or even to every healm of existence, and exploring how each aspect of each plane projects in the other planes, exploring it more in a comprehension sense than doing it in a material mundane way.
Have you ever considered making a step-by-step guide to death in d&d? Like what happens to your soul when you die, how being on other planes effects that, and just generally how your soul moves from one plane to another depending on your alignment and who or what you encounter in the outer planes. I think it would really put all these individual videos on the outer planes into perspective.
I asked in the last one but question. If you were to arrive here thru the Astral projection spell you gain a body made by the plane and are treated as a native. Because of this if one was to arrive here thru Astral projection would you be compelled to climb the mountain or be treated more like the individuals that live in these towns and cities?
You would most likely not be compelled to climb the mountain. The astral projection spell wouldn't turn you into an archon, but merely get you the partial benefits of one.
I feel like in order for them to get to the top they would cease to be what they started as since planes change you. But what does a devil or demon become? Human? Archon?
@@PureVikingPowers They would have to be illuminated for that, and that will turn them into something else that is not considered demon or devil, that is, cleaning the evil in their souls
You failed to mention that Chronias, the highest heaven, is the destination of the souls of unborn and newborn children who pass away. The implication seeming to be that to enter one must be as perfectly pure as the innocence and goodness of a newborn.
I am not sure if it was in a text text or AJ Pickett's theory/suggestion (I'd wager the later) that Chronius the highest heaven, is the guarded portal out of this multiverse, in case the Abyss gets unmanagable, the Primordials all rise, or Tharizdun breaks free of his crystal prison. The top of the mountain is just an emergency exit for those without any possible abyssal taint to try again and leave the rest of us behind. It's bleak and I love it.
This would be such a fun campaign, climbing the mountain. Very light on combat, but with the right players who find a philosophical Planescape-esque heavy RP adventure fun, it'd be a joy to DM.
I like to imagine that once you reach the seventh heaven you find yourself once again on the first mountain. All of the effort, turmoil, and sacrifice you have gone through replaying in your mind as you stare up at the glowing peak you had worked so hard to reach. That’s when enlightenment comes. Self purification is a task that will never reach completion. True enlightenment is the understanding that perfection cannot be earned or achieved. And so with this revelation you turn towards the glowing peak and ready yourself to ascend the mountains in search of enlightenment. This is why the gods cannot enter the seventh heaven. Such a mortal revelation is foreign to them in so much that they are incapable of crossing such a boundary. There is no seventh heaven only the beginning of your journey to the seventh heaven and the enlightenment it brings.
Its a good idea, and indeed what those who have lived contemplative lives (Im mostly familiar with Buddhist and hindus) report is close to what you say, but with a tiny but very important distinction. Perfection cannot be earned - but that is because everything is completely perfect already, always was and always will be. I like to think of Celestia as a mix of monotheistic and polytheistic thinking. The gods of the multiverse, indeed most all things are reflections or creations of a true "oneness" as MrRhexx describes. Philosophically speaking, if you rejoin the source from which all things sprang, then technically, there is no "returning" to do, as you are already identified with ALL of reality. This is why the individual gods cannot (or I think more plausibly, will not) climb to the final layer. Because they are ultimately reflections on the water of the true immaculate conception. The eternal oneness at the very peak of existence from which all things are shadows cast on the water, and to which everything returns.
@@GigaMoth You're welcome. Remember that the destination is just as important as the journey. The journey exists to transform you so that you can reach the destination. There is an end point. Have a nice weekend.
Holy shit i didn't know you were an old dgger watching Destiny and Vaush checking out debates etc. Really cool seeing the recommended at 2:13 hope you keep up the good content :) I'm planning on making my own content eventually so i hope you stay tuned for that have recently gotten contact with a dungeon Master so i plan on starting my own sessions in the future :D
Hoping you'll cover the rest of the other outer planes when possible too! I'm really interested in learning more about some of the less well known ones like Acheron.
I would love to see more in-depth looks into the rest of the giant race as you have done hill giants and a basic overview I would love to see the rest of the giant races explained
if i lived in the D&D universe, my goal would be to be lawful good enough to end up on this plane when i die. i'd be happy to become a lantern thing and sit in the lowest mountain area for eternity if i can't make it any further, it's just that beautiful.
You do you, lol. For me, Mount Celestia would be absolute *torture,* as I am an extremely cahotic individual irl. My personal paradise would be Arborea, but I'd also be fine with any Chaotic Good (or even Chaotic Neutral) plane. Heck, the only plane I wouldn't choose over Mount Celestia are Mechanus and the Lower Planes. The concept of Mount Celestia does not sound particularly "good" to me. Like, I get it's idea, and some of the paths actually make sense, (like the one where you must do good deeds and not flex to anyone about them, it really embodies the concept of Lawful Goodness and kind of Neutral Goodness as well), but some of them are just straight up cruel. Like, what was it, the path of silence, where the entire process was supposed to suck for you? Who on Earth would willingly take that path, and how is that supposed to be "Good" in any way or form??? Like, that just sounds like Batoor, lmao: They also make you suffer if you want to advance. And again, I get the idea that you must be able to sacrifice something important to you in order to advance, but purposefully making someone's journey to enlightment to be as agonizing as possible does not sound "Good" to me. It just dosen't. The whole plane just sounds hypocritical, if I'm being honest. But maybe that's just because in real life, I'm more of a Chaotic Neutral with Chaotic Good tendencies, (or Lawful Evil tendencies, if I'm interacting with someone I hate), and just cannot grasb the concept of how Law and Good can logically combine together. So yeah, my goal in D&D would be to abandon my Chaotic Neutral attitude and fully convert to Chaotic Good so I can reach Arborea, and I would hyperofcus to NOT be Lawful Good in *any* way or form, just so I don't even accidentally end up in Mount Celestia XD Sorry that I'm 4 months late to this comment, btw, but I *really* wanted to say this. I *love* talking about the Planes of D&D, their lore is just so well thought out of and they're all super interesting and unique. This series was fascinating to watch, and really helped me design Planes for my own campaings. I certainly am going to remove some things from Celestia's offical lore, though, to make it seem more like an actual "good" plane instead of just a purgatory disguised as a paradise, lol.
@@terraristit3752 Planescape fascinated me when I first started watching D&D lore videos. While most of the planes that receive attentions are planes of evil (likely for campaign conflict reasons), I still think the upper planes have a lot of potential to them. When I imagine which plane I would most like to visit, I first tend to consider which planes I would be least likely to die in first. After that, I just look at the vibes of the plane. If we're talking about just living on the plane, then I would probably exclude both Arcadia and Yssguard, since the former would have me arrested for stepping on the wrong blade of grass, and the latter would violate my no brutal death clause. I generally prefer planes more as they get closer to Elysium, so I would weight Celestia and Arboria about the same. Celestia, while it has the darker side of an occasionally cruel self-improvement process, has a lot of beautiful scenery and in many cases, just a relaxing atmosphere. In this way, travelers might actually be better off as lawful good visitors than a petitioners. Arboria just sounds fun, with lots of natural fruit just growing in random places, and nature itself is just bigger and grander. Since I love walking through forests and taking in the greenery, it just sounds lovely. The only problem I see are the torrential storms that rack the plane at completely unpredictable intervals, but I guess if Celestia gets the pushy self-perfection crowd, Arboria needed some drawback to balance. Bytopia, sounds like a perfect place to settle down, with its abundant natural resources and high artisan population. It is a place where labor is always rewarded, so you know your hard work will not go to waste. The Beastlands is hardly a plane meant for humans, but settlement there isn't impossible. There, everything feels more alive, and it has even denser greenery than even Arboria, so I would probably love it, even if just for a visit. Finally, we get to Elysium. Elysium is pretty much perfect to me. Just being there is comforting, and for good aligned beings, not just neutral good, pleasant sensory experiences are heightened. Healing accelerates, past traumas are soothed, and the plane-as it serves as a meeting ground between lawful and chaotic planes-is host to a diverse array of unique planar beings and cultures you could spend lifetimes exploring. While I don't like calling myself neutral good, I like to imagine indiscriminate compassion as an ideal moral goal, so I like the virtues that sustain Elysium. Evil isn't tolerated, yet none of the social factors that compel people to hurt each other are really present here. Since planes are infinite, you could explore the vivid forests, and never grow tired of the same places. If you feel like endless peace is boring, they even have an entire layer dedicated to harsh weather and rapid winds just for such people. The only downside I can see is that it becomes emotionally impossible for a good creature to leave if they stay for too long, so I would not visit this place until I was ready to stay, perhaps even after asking a few friends to come with me. And that was my unnecessarily long rant about the upper planes.
Okay so... Who lives in those towns in Mount Celestia? You mentioned Sea Elves, children, elders etc... But they are not archons, or are they? And if they are, archons have very specific mission so why do they need towns, homes and normal lives? How th do those towns work? What is the daily life there?
@@blazingshadow2669 First time I ever heard of that. And what are they? Just regular peoples of regular races born and raised in upper plains? If they are, then what happens if they die? Rhexx already told us that Lawful Good people are reborn as archons. I just want to know what else (if anything else) actually INHABITS the plane. Besides the dwarves of dwarven heaven because I assume they are just dead dwarves.
@@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635 There are planars too. They're people who just live on the Outer Planes, most of which are in Sigil, because everywhere else is varying degrees of anathema to normal existence. Which isn't to say their bad, but let's see you live behind the pearly gates.
The vast majority of the inhabitants of Mount Celestia are the archons, they probably make up like 80% of the plane. Archons strive to climb the mountain, and make it their life's goal to do that. Not every archon gets to climb, some give up, others simply require a lot of time. Archons can easily climb up and down the mountains as they learn the paths. Many of these archons live existences happily on many towns. There are probably billions of creatures that live on Mount Celestia. Even if 80% of those are archons with a goal in mind, that still leaves millions of creature that decide to relax in those towns. Also consider that you only become an archon if you either don't venerate a specific god but are lawful good, or if you specifically venerate a human god. There are many other creatures that come here but don't get to become archons, like halflings and dwarves, and presumably many other races from a multitude of other planets in the multiverse. Those creatures have their own rules, which might allow for them to just relax and live a happy afterlife in any town they desire.
Great video! Gave me an idea for a potential backstory to my dwarf rogue character. Perhaps in his previous life, he was a broken, cripped, wretched human soul that desired to mine and craft, but everything he tried produced nothing but pathetic, worthless failures. Moradin took pity on this soul and reforged it into a strong and hale dwarf who's currently living its next best life as a successful miner and goldsmith.
I just imagine this normal dude making the journey and, to the surprise of everyone, gets to the 7th heaven. He comes back and everyone thinks he's some special chosen one. But then he tells them that it was empty. Nobody was there to greet him. Only loose sheets and dust.
Well Asmodeus supposedly fell straight down before crashing and his blood turned into devils. Mr. Snake meanwhile consciously chose to go upwards. Asmodeus wants to rule all and kicked out whoever used to be in Hell to establish his own order. I don't know if there were people in the Heavens before, but Jaz likely wouldn't feel the need to dominate them; the entire point of the Mount is everyone helping each other get as high as they can, so he's established as a kind of warden for the higher levels.
Another great video another request for dwarves and magic runes please. Still going strong with the request comment I wonder if any one remembers me doing dwarves and magic runes comment since the elves videos. Either way keep up the good work MrRexx
Thank you for the video. As a new DM I couldn't seem to find much lore or knowledge pertaining to Mount Celestia. This helps a lot. Thank you again MrRhexx. 😇
You said that sometimes invader come to the mountain. If demons occupy the first layer do they have to follow the rules of the mountain to get to the next level or by occupying it do they change the rules.
@@sidecharacter7165 Isn't Valhalla in Ysgard though, which is a completely different Outer Plane than Mount Celestia? Like, Valhalla is meant to represent the hall of the souls of warriors who died honorably/in combat, as well as the home of the Valkyries, which feels more appropriate for the Chaotic Good realm of Ysgard than the Lawful Good realm of Celestia, which rather than Valhalla has the Platinum Heaven.
Demons would probably have an impossible time climbing up the mountain, they might not be able to do it. They wouldn't have to do. The fight between Law & Chaos makes it so that if one side is dominating the other, then the universe's rules start shifting to that of the winning side. So if the demons are owning that much, the mountain would start becoming more and more chaotic. Presumably up to the point where they could climb it. But the demons would have to be dominating really hard on most parts of the multiverse for this to happen and even still, the mountain might not be destroyed completely.
@@sidecharacter7165 I mean I agree with the fact that Demons (or Devils) wouldn't be able to take the mountains, I was merely pointing out that Valhalla is in Ysgard, not Celestia ;)
I purchased your Dragon Hoards PDF. What a great supplement. I wish all the monsters had a description of what you could harvest from them. Maybe something like the monster hunters manual. I know this is allot to ask but im thinking lesser monsters would have fewer and fewer parts to them that are worth as much as the CR goes down. Overall very happy with the product. Hope the holidays treat you well.
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@MrRhexx Can you do a video on Rust Monsters? Their biology is quite mysterious (older versions say that they corrode any metal with a high concentration of oxygen, but 5e says that they can only damage ferrous metals).
With the ending at the Portal- I can see a "What If" story that features either Orcus or Asmodeus conquering the other and taking complete control of the chaos orb in the center of the Abyss(Including the sliver that forms Asmodeus' Ruby Rod. And before the Gate Asmo(Ahriman) fights Jazirian. Or Orcus sees what is in the gate and is reverted to his human form and his deity status shattered.
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I really love your videos. I wish we had more content like yours avaible. I want to ask if you plan to finish the video about the elder brain? I Really want to see that :3
Ah yes. Let me show you exactly how long you have to live. That will totally turn you to holiness, and not cause you to make panicked decisions based on your brief amount of time remaining. Absolutely nothing bad would ever come of that. New character idea: A goblin that's been shown exactly when he will die and is frantically compiling his bucket list. Item1:Spit on this solars boot for screwing my day up like that. The nerve. Item2: Find that gnome that overcooked my fish, and make him eat it. I've been saving it for such the occasion. Item3: Brothels. Will work it out once I get there. Item4: Ride a unicorn. Specifically after the brothels. Just because people say you can't. Item5: Write a book informing the world of my greatness. Item6: Become immortal to rub it in that smarmy Solars face. Item7: Take over the world just to let it fall into anarchy so I can reconquer it again. Item8: Crack the code of universal immortality so that solar can't pull that crap on anyone else again. Item9: Take some time for some self care. Item10: Whatever I want because as of item6 I now have all the time in the world. Item11: Realize that hell is other people and I've made a terrible mistake. Item 12: Reverse item8. Orcus might actually be onto something here. Item13: Bliss.
I would like to ask. How would an attack from the abyss or hells be answered by the celestial hosts? Because as I see it, the terrain of Mount Celestia alone would be inhospitable to the incursion, one would think that the celestial host wouldn't react immediately considering many of the enemy will die before reaching them; assuming some get through.
Nice. Considering the amount of research you have into this ep's, you should think about creating some sort of module/premade about climbing the mountain.
I have it. It does talk about the uses for dragon eyes, blood, skin, talons/teeth, bones, heart, the breath sac, and even the brain. And it gives you some pretty cool stuff beyond that. Like a draconic warlock.
@@infinitemind3719 yeah there's quite an interesting thing you can do by giving him to a sage boiling them in a special Brew they become crystals and these crystals can actually absorb into your skin you get a random ability
@@orcwarchiefreviews Was wandering about something like that. Two different ritual involving the heart. One where you, a spell caster, can use the heart to gain a spell boost of some sort and gain the dragons ability to cast spells without verbal or somatic components. Another to extend your life equal to either how long the dragon lived, has lived, or how long it has left to live.
@@infinitemind3719 I'd have to look but I think that's found in the dragon Lance setting but there are a couple rings that do something similar they're called rings a spell storing you can get Low levels one and higher level ones they're also spells of third level that allow you to do that as well you can nullify almost everything including components in second edition d&d 5e you can spec for
I saw some speculation in some piece of lore that the top of the mountain is a gateway to a higher reality, another multiverse, in a sort of opposite to the bottom of the Abyss being the passage from a destroyed multiverse that the Obyrith demons came from into ours.
Hey mrRhexx, I love you content! Would you mind if I suggested a video? My video concept is: what volo's doesn't tell you about the catoblepas. The catoblepas was always my favorite monster in d&d, I fly like this guy. He was overpowered I. second edition
So if it isn’t obvious - Mt. Celestia is based on Dante’s concept of Purgatory and his conception of Heaven from the Divine Comedy blended together. Just as much as Baator is based on his nine circles of hell. Dante’s Purgatory is a tiered mountain that the dead must toil upon to ascend and perfect themselves before ascending to heaven. His Heaven is made up of the crystal spheres that surround the earth in the Ptolemaic model, each embedded with a different celestial object - going in order the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn (followed by the sphere of the fixed stars and the Primus Mobile beyond that), the same order as Lunia (moon), Mercuria (Mercury), Venya (Venus), Solania (sun), Mertion (mars), Jovar (Jupiter), and Chronias (Saturn).
Hello, please, where can I find the part about petitioners not dying, unless they die outside of mt. Celestia? Is it stated somewhere in the lore? Does it apply to angels?
Have you thought of doing a video about werewolves in dnd lore? I would love to learn more about those. I always use for videos as source for my writing and creation for new characters.
Since mortals can climb the mountains... I do wonder... what happens to offspring birthed within the whole Plane? Are they... born with a level of lawful good purity matching the mountain reached? Do they.... get transported down to Lunia? Are they cared for by Zaphkiel cuz innocense?
The absolute funniest moment in any of R.A. Salvatore's books is in the War of the Spider Queen series when the lichdrow Deir banishes Gromph Baenre (Archmage of Menzobarranzan) to the green fields. The interactions between Gromph and the halflings and their God are some of the funniest stuff ive ever read.
Please do a tiefling video! I'm playing one (the baalzebub variant) in a campaign and just sent the dragonborn one to my friend who's the party warrior.
Well...from creation myth is basically of Cosmic oroboros. Soooo maybe top of mountain leads to bottom of the abyss? Imagine it like hour glass with one realms peak being others bottom.
It's crazy that even in DnD heaven, you still have to pay for everything. You would think that people living in a place dedicated to being good would be a bit more generous
Reguerding battles against invaders in the outer planes, if the invaders die, don't they just respawn? ... The natives on the other hand, have the homefeild atvantage, but if they die, it's permideath... ... Except on Mnt. Celeste, where they can both respawn on their home plane? .... I'm trying to figure out what the rules are on this? ... Also, if you can permidie in the afterlife, dosn't that defeat the whole point of an afterlife?
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Thanks for all those amazing videos.
Without them I would never know D&D that deeply.
Can we get a dwarf gods episode. Running a campaign with Gorm In it.
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Everyone on Mount Celestia : Road to self perfection!
Bahamut doing what dragons do the best: Floating Treasure Hoard!
Bahamut just living his best dragon life.
Bahamut : Song from Pocahontas " See how I glitter! "
@@pathwaystoadventure He be flexing!
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And THAT‘s, why the highest heaven he manages to enter is 4😂
Dragon: *chilling*
Moradin: THAT'S IT, I'M TURNING YOU INTO A DWARF, LAD!
I’m picturing a VERY bold trader establishing a trade route between the Green Fields and Erackinor- buying fabrics in the Green Fields and selling it to the Dwarves for 5X profit, then bringing back cheap dwarven crafts and selling them in the Green Fields or other towns in the 3rd Heaven for solid prices. Seems like a quick way to build up a LOT of gold pieces quickly 🤣
Then the Narc Archons show up and give him a constant scolding because Mount Celestia is a just Hell with a better PR department.
@@InquisitorThomas Seems there are some parallells, less the whole torture thing.
the 4th layer has mountains made of gold and other precious metals. you are better off just mining it with a pickaxe...
One of my homebrew races def would storm elf would love the trade storm elf is like a lightning quickling kinda
Don’t be too greedy about it though.
The top of the mountain could be missing. I mean, think of the Two Dragons creation story. The top of the mountain might lead to Jazirian's vision of the world, but as long as Ahriman's around, she can't actualise it, so it's in a state of "Coming Soon, to a Mountain Near You". Souls that reach it might act as a vote/pressure towards Benevolent Order; and becoming part of the plane might be literal. As in, you form another miniscule step that the plane takes towards that vision with your essence.
Or, from a more Grimdark perspective, the place might be a trap of a being whose idea of a perfect meal is a very discipined, wise, nice person. So the 6 heavens are the seasoning, and the 7th is the plate:P
:O
I like the grimdark version, sounds more realistic then the goody-two-shoes.
Well, Ahriman/Asmodeus promotes atheism only to consume the souls of the atheists in the trap door under the 9th layer of hell, so I really wouldn't be surprised it's something similar. But then again, considering how difficult it is to get to the peak and how few reach it, it seems extremely inefficient and doomed to failure in light of Ahriman's equivalent approach.
@@endymionselene165 The top of the mountain is described as "simultaneously perfect immortality and perfect extinction, a oneness with goodness". So for freedom liking types, it is a bit horrific since it's the complete destruction of the individual. To others though becoming "one" with the very essence of good can be seen as the highest reward and the obtaining of perfection.
@@elegantoddity8609 Yeah maybe I’m just Chaotic but some of the virtues that Mount Celestia holds up as good seems like it can easily be twisted as something tyrannical and authoritarian: Work will set you free, you must be willing to die for the goodness of Mount Celestia, Suffer until you’re beaten into the ideal individual that Mount Celestia views as correct for the sake of “Self Betterment” and “Enlightenment.”
@@InquisitorThomas That is true. There are however Archons whose main job is upholding the definitions of concepts and ideals and preventing them from being twisted by the forces of evil. Word Archons.
AJ Pickett has an interesting theory on what's at the top of the 7th layer of Celestia, which would be a gateway out of this reality. Much like the Obyrith came into D&D's universe from their own dying universe, this would be the last bastion to save the remnants of this reality when it is eventually and inevitably destroyed by the spreading destructive entropy of Demons and/or Negative Energy. The emergency escape route, so to speak, which would explain why it is so well guarded and secretive. You really wouldn't want that type of knowledge to fall in the wrong hands, which could doom a whole other universe (i.e. mind flayers, to name just one example). In this regard, Zaphkiel might be the guardian of this final solution and maybe the only one to know the key to its destruction to make sure only the worthy leave this reality in its ultimate moments.
That doesn’t sound very GOOD of them, if that’s the reason for its exclusivity.
would explain why they want only the purest souls for this, Or perhaps its a way to find a worthy successors for potential good gods.
@@zyfigamer I mean protecting the multiverse needs sacrifices it could be stuff like greyhawk, athas ect spheres or even altarnate seven heavens of celestia some big stuff
I like this theory
Which might also indicate that Zaphkiel himself won't ever be able to pass through it if he needs to ensure it's destruction from 'this' end of it.
I have heard that at the very top of the mountain, in the center of chronius, there is a portal. This portal leads outside of the known multiverse. Just like the shard of ultimate evil that brought the oberyth from their dying multiverse, the worthy are already saved from this doomed multiverse. When the multiverse itself will die, the worthy will be saved.
That's a terrifying thought- that you don't know what's at the top, and the only thing you know is that it's very old and holds immense power.
I'm pretty sure it's related to Jazirian in some way.
I'm assuming that you just merge with the plane when you enter; but then, how is that one archon comming in and out?
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Also, I get the impression that the fact that it seems terrifying is intentional: You have to have enough faith in the mountain to be willing to enter.
MrRhexx, you old Beholder lore video was the first D&D video I ever watched. 4 years later, I'm still a fan and have had many wonderful adventures and made many great friends playing D&D. Thank you so much for all your stuff.
Zaphkiel is probably up to no evil
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Climbing the mountain could be a whole campaign, and I think that's how it's meant to be. It's a shame that's kind of been lost, and isn't specified in 5e, even a brief description and what pantheons live on which layer. Perhaps they could even leave the last layer blank for the DM to describe and write, making each journey up the mountain unique. No disrespect to Descent into Avernus, but I think it's cooler to have a layer-scaling journey across a plane than having an entire campaign set on just one layer of Hell.
Honestly if someone started it, I'd gladly join
A mount celestia sourcebook/adventure guide would be dope
Don't worry they'll have a supplement eventually for it if they don't come out with a whole new version by then(so they start over with their supplements). If you look back to 2nd edition. Omg... The supplements were insane. Pretty sure they are aiming for that dispersal again. Most profitable.
Ive already thought up multiple campaign for mount celestia as a full roleplay focus campaign, shadowfell campaign and an abyss campaign (trying to over throw one layer leader while working for another). My group seemed more interested in the shadowfell and the abyss one if its letting that one drow god get that layer back from orcus.
@@Kris-wo4pj I've run a shadowfell campaign as well, it's quite interesting. It was set mostly in Gloomwrought using the 4e Gloomwrought & Beyond supplement but home-converted for 5e is that what you're using as well?
I picture my first dnd character that was a human Paladin has made it to Mount Celestia and became a Planes Walker considering I made a version of him in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, pathfinder and 5e. It's become a personal tradition and adds to his mythos.
Kinda like link?
I get the impression that Celestia is the most dimensionally complex of the Outer Planes. Bahamut's Palace is a perfect example: somehow it is simultaneously in multiple different mountains, while also being a physical place that wanders the Plane. The way the Dwarven pantheon melds with Celestia is also very unique. So yeah, while far from a lore expert, Celestia seems very complex on a dimensional level. Fascinating.
What they didn’t tell you about Dragon horde is an awesome PDF I’ve been pushing it with my friends hard so hopefully they’ll buy a few copies to thank you for making the PDF and all your videos.
Solar Angels are absolute beasts (I would love a video on them).
My current Paladin is seeking to become a Solar (at least its power) in the same way that some seek to become liches
The halfling heaven sounds pretty nice, I would climb Celestia just to reach there
Love this series about the Outer planes!
I love this series about Mount Celestia. I know that knowlegde about the lower planes comes up more often in most dnd games, but I've always been curious about the Seven Heavens. One topic that'd been mentioned here were the Solars, I want to include lore about them in my campaign. Do you have plans on making a video on them, and possibly the other angels?
Oh come on, everyone knows what's in the Illuminated Heaven: a baby harp seal who's flabby belly is impervious to all evil.
I find it quite cute how Bahamut, in his Fizban Avatar, feigns slight dementia and senility, while in his young Monk form, he's a hot cracker-jack with knowledge beyond his implied years.
Maybe he keeps so many "Cottages" on different levels, so that when Fizban, he can still find a place to sleep, if he forgets where he parked the last time... :)
A thought on Chronias is that its name might be a hint to its nature: Time.
Like how Mertion is the mountain of warriors and is named after Mars. Even its description as being great fields brings to mind the Field of Mars just outside the walls of Rome where the legions were assembled.
What exactly would it have to do with time? No idea.
One really interesting concept that may apply to Bahamut's pallace is the 4rth dimension projection.
I'm sure that if they knew more about this when the whole Mount Celetia was created, that would be the case for the whole thing.
You see, the montais climbing is an elightment path, not a psysical one, only ocne you have enough enlightment you are able to see, walk and have a projection in the higher levels, wich would mean that they all inhabit the same space, the only thing you are doing is opening new sensorial doors that would allow you to see beyond a veil in a new dimension, and once you are worthy to open this new door in yourself, you are also worthy to walk in that ground.
its like 2d to 3d, every 3d object may have a 2d projection that doesn't make sense, but you can't peek the 3rd dimension, you can only understand it's projection in your's dimention
Yeah, sounds like those DMT elves stuff, but its something to think about. Bahamut might appear in every level because his sole existence is engraved in the concept of each reality/dimention/level. There's a lot of ground to explore in this point of view, you could also apply this to the feywild and shadowfell if you wanted, or even to every healm of existence, and exploring how each aspect of each plane projects in the other planes, exploring it more in a comprehension sense than doing it in a material mundane way.
Have you ever considered making a step-by-step guide to death in d&d? Like what happens to your soul when you die, how being on other planes effects that, and just generally how your soul moves from one plane to another depending on your alignment and who or what you encounter in the outer planes. I think it would really put all these individual videos on the outer planes into perspective.
I've been watching for years and I get excited for every video. Never fails. Keep up the good work. I live for this content:)
I asked in the last one but question. If you were to arrive here thru the Astral projection spell you gain a body made by the plane and are treated as a native. Because of this if one was to arrive here thru Astral projection would you be compelled to climb the mountain or be treated more like the individuals that live in these towns and cities?
Personally, I believe you would be treated as a planar traveler, but either could be true.
You would most likely not be compelled to climb the mountain. The astral projection spell wouldn't turn you into an archon, but merely get you the partial benefits of one.
@@MrRhexx Has any devil or demon ever reached the top?
I feel like in order for them to get to the top they would cease to be what they started as since planes change you. But what does a devil or demon become? Human? Archon?
@@PureVikingPowers They would have to be illuminated for that, and that will turn them into something else that is not considered demon or devil, that is, cleaning the evil in their souls
You failed to mention that Chronias, the highest heaven, is the destination of the souls of unborn and newborn children who pass away. The implication seeming to be that to enter one must be as perfectly pure as the innocence and goodness of a newborn.
I thought babies arrive at the fugue plane, that because they dont have the capacity to have an alignment, there is no god that claims their soul
I am not sure if it was in a text text or AJ Pickett's theory/suggestion (I'd wager the later) that Chronius the highest heaven, is the guarded portal out of this multiverse, in case the Abyss gets unmanagable, the Primordials all rise, or Tharizdun breaks free of his crystal prison.
The top of the mountain is just an emergency exit for those without any possible abyssal taint to try again and leave the rest of us behind.
It's bleak and I love it.
NEW VIDEO! been looking forward to another one if these angel ones!
This would be such a fun campaign, climbing the mountain. Very light on combat, but with the right players who find a philosophical Planescape-esque heavy RP adventure fun, it'd be a joy to DM.
imagine just overlord Ao sitting at the top chilling with zaphkiel and be like, Ey whats up, you guys finally made it,
I like to imagine that once you reach the seventh heaven you find yourself once again on the first mountain. All of the effort, turmoil, and sacrifice you have gone through replaying in your mind as you stare up at the glowing peak you had worked so hard to reach.
That’s when enlightenment comes. Self purification is a task that will never reach completion. True enlightenment is the understanding that perfection cannot be earned or achieved. And so with this revelation you turn towards the glowing peak and ready yourself to ascend the mountains in search of enlightenment.
This is why the gods cannot enter the seventh heaven. Such a mortal revelation is foreign to them in so much that they are incapable of crossing such a boundary.
There is no seventh heaven only the beginning of your journey to the seventh heaven and the enlightenment it brings.
Its a good idea, and indeed what those who have lived contemplative lives (Im mostly familiar with Buddhist and hindus) report is close to what you say, but with a tiny but very important distinction. Perfection cannot be earned - but that is because everything is completely perfect already, always was and always will be. I like to think of Celestia as a mix of monotheistic and polytheistic thinking. The gods of the multiverse, indeed most all things are reflections or creations of a true "oneness" as MrRhexx describes. Philosophically speaking, if you rejoin the source from which all things sprang, then technically, there is no "returning" to do, as you are already identified with ALL of reality. This is why the individual gods cannot (or I think more plausibly, will not) climb to the final layer. Because they are ultimately reflections on the water of the true immaculate conception. The eternal oneness at the very peak of existence from which all things are shadows cast on the water, and to which everything returns.
very cringe idea
I hate it
@@MrChaosAdam Thanks dude. Hope you have a good day. 🙏
@@GigaMoth You're welcome. Remember that the destination is just as important as the journey. The journey exists to transform you so that you can reach the destination. There is an end point. Have a nice weekend.
Holy shit i didn't know you were an old dgger watching Destiny and Vaush checking out debates etc.
Really cool seeing the recommended at 2:13 hope you keep up the good content :)
I'm planning on making my own content eventually so i hope you stay tuned for that have recently gotten contact with a dungeon Master so i plan on starting my own sessions in the future :D
Another another amazing video, thank you man!
You're honestly a huge inspiration to me.
Hoping you'll cover the rest of the other outer planes when possible too! I'm really interested in learning more about some of the less well known ones like Acheron.
I would love to see more in-depth looks into the rest of the giant race as you have done hill giants and a basic overview I would love to see the rest of the giant races explained
You know, considering your work so far and considering you've already done PDFs, you should totally make a PDF on the existing Outer Planes.
Brilliant! I was despairing of finding a good video on AD&D Heaven 👼
if i lived in the D&D universe, my goal would be to be lawful good enough to end up on this plane when i die. i'd be happy to become a lantern thing and sit in the lowest mountain area for eternity if i can't make it any further, it's just that beautiful.
Can't stay a lantern forever. You get absorbed into the plane after a good while if you stay a petitioner.
You do you, lol. For me, Mount Celestia would be absolute *torture,* as I am an extremely cahotic individual irl. My personal paradise would be Arborea, but I'd also be fine with any Chaotic Good (or even Chaotic Neutral) plane. Heck, the only plane I wouldn't choose over Mount Celestia are Mechanus and the Lower Planes. The concept of Mount Celestia does not sound particularly "good" to me. Like, I get it's idea, and some of the paths actually make sense, (like the one where you must do good deeds and not flex to anyone about them, it really embodies the concept of Lawful Goodness and kind of Neutral Goodness as well), but some of them are just straight up cruel. Like, what was it, the path of silence, where the entire process was supposed to suck for you? Who on Earth would willingly take that path, and how is that supposed to be "Good" in any way or form??? Like, that just sounds like Batoor, lmao: They also make you suffer if you want to advance. And again, I get the idea that you must be able to sacrifice something important to you in order to advance, but purposefully making someone's journey to enlightment to be as agonizing as possible does not sound "Good" to me. It just dosen't. The whole plane just sounds hypocritical, if I'm being honest. But maybe that's just because in real life, I'm more of a Chaotic Neutral with Chaotic Good tendencies, (or Lawful Evil tendencies, if I'm interacting with someone I hate), and just cannot grasb the concept of how Law and Good can logically combine together. So yeah, my goal in D&D would be to abandon my Chaotic Neutral attitude and fully convert to Chaotic Good so I can reach Arborea, and I would hyperofcus to NOT be Lawful Good in *any* way or form, just so I don't even accidentally end up in Mount Celestia XD
Sorry that I'm 4 months late to this comment, btw, but I *really* wanted to say this. I *love* talking about the Planes of D&D, their lore is just so well thought out of and they're all super interesting and unique. This series was fascinating to watch, and really helped me design Planes for my own campaings. I certainly am going to remove some things from Celestia's offical lore, though, to make it seem more like an actual "good" plane instead of just a purgatory disguised as a paradise, lol.
@@terraristit3752 Planescape fascinated me when I first started watching D&D lore videos. While most of the planes that receive attentions are planes of evil (likely for campaign conflict reasons), I still think the upper planes have a lot of potential to them. When I imagine which plane I would most like to visit, I first tend to consider which planes I would be least likely to die in first. After that, I just look at the vibes of the plane. If we're talking about just living on the plane, then I would probably exclude both Arcadia and Yssguard, since the former would have me arrested for stepping on the wrong blade of grass, and the latter would violate my no brutal death clause. I generally prefer planes more as they get closer to Elysium, so I would weight Celestia and Arboria about the same. Celestia, while it has the darker side of an occasionally cruel self-improvement process, has a lot of beautiful scenery and in many cases, just a relaxing atmosphere. In this way, travelers might actually be better off as lawful good visitors than a petitioners. Arboria just sounds fun, with lots of natural fruit just growing in random places, and nature itself is just bigger and grander. Since I love walking through forests and taking in the greenery, it just sounds lovely. The only problem I see are the torrential storms that rack the plane at completely unpredictable intervals, but I guess if Celestia gets the pushy self-perfection crowd, Arboria needed some drawback to balance. Bytopia, sounds like a perfect place to settle down, with its abundant natural resources and high artisan population. It is a place where labor is always rewarded, so you know your hard work will not go to waste. The Beastlands is hardly a plane meant for humans, but settlement there isn't impossible. There, everything feels more alive, and it has even denser greenery than even Arboria, so I would probably love it, even if just for a visit. Finally, we get to Elysium. Elysium is pretty much perfect to me. Just being there is comforting, and for good aligned beings, not just neutral good, pleasant sensory experiences are heightened. Healing accelerates, past traumas are soothed, and the plane-as it serves as a meeting ground between lawful and chaotic planes-is host to a diverse array of unique planar beings and cultures you could spend lifetimes exploring. While I don't like calling myself neutral good, I like to imagine indiscriminate compassion as an ideal moral goal, so I like the virtues that sustain Elysium. Evil isn't tolerated, yet none of the social factors that compel people to hurt each other are really present here. Since planes are infinite, you could explore the vivid forests, and never grow tired of the same places. If you feel like endless peace is boring, they even have an entire layer dedicated to harsh weather and rapid winds just for such people. The only downside I can see is that it becomes emotionally impossible for a good creature to leave if they stay for too long, so I would not visit this place until I was ready to stay, perhaps even after asking a few friends to come with me.
And that was my unnecessarily long rant about the upper planes.
Okay so...
Who lives in those towns in Mount Celestia? You mentioned Sea Elves, children, elders etc... But they are not archons, or are they? And if they are, archons have very specific mission so why do they need towns, homes and normal lives? How th do those towns work? What is the daily life there?
What if daily/common life is needed for the process of ascencion? Guessing, I have no idea.
celestial humans, dwarves and such. planar mortals (elves and their planar versions live in the chaotic good plane for the most part)
@@blazingshadow2669 First time I ever heard of that. And what are they? Just regular peoples of regular races born and raised in upper plains? If they are, then what happens if they die?
Rhexx already told us that Lawful Good people are reborn as archons. I just want to know what else (if anything else) actually INHABITS the plane. Besides the dwarves of dwarven heaven because I assume they are just dead dwarves.
@@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635 There are planars too. They're people who just live on the Outer Planes, most of which are in Sigil, because everywhere else is varying degrees of anathema to normal existence. Which isn't to say their bad, but let's see you live behind the pearly gates.
The vast majority of the inhabitants of Mount Celestia are the archons, they probably make up like 80% of the plane. Archons strive to climb the mountain, and make it their life's goal to do that. Not every archon gets to climb, some give up, others simply require a lot of time. Archons can easily climb up and down the mountains as they learn the paths. Many of these archons live existences happily on many towns.
There are probably billions of creatures that live on Mount Celestia. Even if 80% of those are archons with a goal in mind, that still leaves millions of creature that decide to relax in those towns. Also consider that you only become an archon if you either don't venerate a specific god but are lawful good, or if you specifically venerate a human god. There are many other creatures that come here but don't get to become archons, like halflings and dwarves, and presumably many other races from a multitude of other planets in the multiverse. Those creatures have their own rules, which might allow for them to just relax and live a happy afterlife in any town they desire.
Great video! Gave me an idea for a potential backstory to my dwarf rogue character. Perhaps in his previous life, he was a broken, cripped, wretched human soul that desired to mine and craft, but everything he tried produced nothing but pathetic, worthless failures. Moradin took pity on this soul and reforged it into a strong and hale dwarf who's currently living its next best life as a successful miner and goldsmith.
I just imagine this normal dude making the journey and, to the surprise of everyone, gets to the 7th heaven. He comes back and everyone thinks he's some special chosen one. But then he tells them that it was empty. Nobody was there to greet him. Only loose sheets and dust.
the reward is the wisdom you gain from the journey itself.
I thought there was a huge winged snake at the top, and the "angel" at the top was its avatar, much like how another certain serpent has Asmodeus
Well Asmodeus supposedly fell straight down before crashing and his blood turned into devils. Mr. Snake meanwhile consciously chose to go upwards. Asmodeus wants to rule all and kicked out whoever used to be in Hell to establish his own order. I don't know if there were people in the Heavens before, but Jaz likely wouldn't feel the need to dominate them; the entire point of the Mount is everyone helping each other get as high as they can, so he's established as a kind of warden for the higher levels.
17:07 Glad to see Gimli made it into dwarf heaven.
Another great video another request for dwarves and magic runes please.
Still going strong with the request comment I wonder if any one remembers me doing dwarves and magic runes comment since the elves videos.
Either way keep up the good work MrRexx
Thank you for the video. As a new DM I couldn't seem to find much lore or knowledge pertaining to Mount Celestia. This helps a lot. Thank you again MrRhexx. 😇
Another great video, thank you for all of the work that you do!
And that pdf is 100% going to he the go to dragon Bible for D&D
You said that sometimes invader come to the mountain. If demons occupy the first layer do they have to follow the rules of the mountain to get to the next level or by occupying it do they change the rules.
Probably up to the DM but good luck taking Valhalla.(Archons respawn here and not outside, the opposite of demons)
@@sidecharacter7165 Isn't Valhalla in Ysgard though, which is a completely different Outer Plane than Mount Celestia? Like, Valhalla is meant to represent the hall of the souls of warriors who died honorably/in combat, as well as the home of the Valkyries, which feels more appropriate for the Chaotic Good realm of Ysgard than the Lawful Good realm of Celestia, which rather than Valhalla has the Platinum Heaven.
@@Patches2212 Yes but no, I meant about how the Archons just respawn so holding it would be impossible
Demons would probably have an impossible time climbing up the mountain, they might not be able to do it. They wouldn't have to do. The fight between Law & Chaos makes it so that if one side is dominating the other, then the universe's rules start shifting to that of the winning side. So if the demons are owning that much, the mountain would start becoming more and more chaotic. Presumably up to the point where they could climb it. But the demons would have to be dominating really hard on most parts of the multiverse for this to happen and even still, the mountain might not be destroyed completely.
@@sidecharacter7165 I mean I agree with the fact that Demons (or Devils) wouldn't be able to take the mountains, I was merely pointing out that Valhalla is in Ysgard, not Celestia ;)
Oh Heavens yess!! this series is cool!
Wasn't there an exit, a Door to *nope* from multiverse once Abyss consumes all?
I purchased your Dragon Hoards PDF. What a great supplement. I wish all the monsters had a description of what you could harvest from them. Maybe something like the monster hunters manual. I know this is allot to ask but im thinking lesser monsters would have fewer and fewer parts to them that are worth as much as the CR goes down. Overall very happy with the product. Hope the holidays treat you well.
32:17 : The Great Universal Psy - Serpent Of Order of course!!! Just as The Great Universal Psy - Serpent Of Chaos dwells below The 9 Hells!!! Asmodeus might be aware of this also 🤔!
@MrRhexx Can you do a video on Rust Monsters? Their biology is quite mysterious (older versions say that they corrode any metal with a high concentration of oxygen, but 5e says that they can only damage ferrous metals).
the 7th heaven is Tharizdun's prison. Paragons of good sacrifice themselves to keep him contained.
With the ending at the Portal- I can see a "What If" story that features either Orcus or Asmodeus conquering the other and taking complete control of the chaos orb in the center of the Abyss(Including the sliver that forms Asmodeus' Ruby Rod. And before the Gate Asmo(Ahriman) fights Jazirian. Or Orcus sees what is in the gate and is reverted to his human form and his deity status shattered.
Thanks so much for that PDF man, Its such a blessing
When we will see a Bahamut Video. I want to see the Platinum Dragon Lord.
Yes please
Can you do a video about Living Spells. I think it's a really cool topic that nobody seems to talk about.
Where do you get your art from for the videos? I know some is from the books, and the rest?
I'm specifically wondering about the image at 20:52
The image is of Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice; a Magic: the Gathering card.
@@t.j.tuttle2007 thank you!
a new MrRhexx! been waiting for this :-)
Wait, who is selling holy water when there is literally a whole ocean of it?
Hey man! I wish I could support you by buying your Dragon Hoard PDF but unfortunately I have to pay for college first. So I'll do what I can to support you by liking (I'm already subscribed) and commenting here.
I really love your videos. I wish we had more content like yours avaible. I want to ask if you plan to finish the video about the elder brain? I Really want to see that :3
Such a great vid with an unsatisfactory ending! I WANNA KNOOOOOW!
Awesome job as always! ❤
Ah yes.
Let me show you exactly how long you have to live. That will totally turn you to holiness, and not cause you to make panicked decisions based on your brief amount of time remaining. Absolutely nothing bad would ever come of that.
New character idea: A goblin that's been shown exactly when he will die and is frantically compiling his bucket list.
Item1:Spit on this solars boot for screwing my day up like that. The nerve.
Item2: Find that gnome that overcooked my fish, and make him eat it. I've been saving it for such the occasion.
Item3: Brothels. Will work it out once I get there.
Item4: Ride a unicorn. Specifically after the brothels. Just because people say you can't.
Item5: Write a book informing the world of my greatness.
Item6: Become immortal to rub it in that smarmy Solars face.
Item7: Take over the world just to let it fall into anarchy so I can reconquer it again.
Item8: Crack the code of universal immortality so that solar can't pull that crap on anyone else again.
Item9: Take some time for some self care.
Item10: Whatever I want because as of item6 I now have all the time in the world.
Item11: Realize that hell is other people and I've made a terrible mistake.
Item 12: Reverse item8. Orcus might actually be onto something here.
Item13: Bliss.
Man, all these other planes contained within the big planes makes the multiverse much bigger, and a lot more fun to explore!
Thank you for your content. Every video really offers inspiration for table.
I would like to ask. How would an attack from the abyss or hells be answered by the celestial hosts? Because as I see it, the terrain of Mount Celestia alone would be inhospitable to the incursion, one would think that the celestial host wouldn't react immediately considering many of the enemy will die before reaching them; assuming some get through.
It’s probably like playing Bloon’s Tower defence on easy mode.
Yondala must have other races than haflings. She was already powerfull when she took them in
Isn't she another shape of Chauntea?
Hope you're having a good Christmas man!
Nice. Considering the amount of research you have into this ep's, you should think about creating some sort of module/premade about climbing the mountain.
19:00 I thoguht all souls came from either the positive-energy-plane or far-realms?
And Asmodeus walked all across this shit without breaking 💦 sweat.
Are we sure He is good or bad?
He was one of the first angels he has experience
Gonna correct you, Bahamut cares not for treasure gifts, he prefers actions of good over material gifts.
29:23 "The city is a seven layered cigarette." God damn, I never even knew.
There's a high pitched noise mixed into the audio in this video. Idk if that's something you can fix but I thought I'd let you know
Theory: As above, so Below. Asmodeus would be your clue here. If you know, that creation myth of the two serpents is true.
Haven't looked at your PDF yet but I was wondering if you talked about the Dragon eyes and how you can turn them into magical gems
I have it. It does talk about the uses for dragon eyes, blood, skin, talons/teeth, bones, heart, the breath sac, and even the brain. And it gives you some pretty cool stuff beyond that. Like a draconic warlock.
@@infinitemind3719 yeah there's quite an interesting thing you can do by giving him to a sage boiling them in a special Brew they become crystals and these crystals can actually absorb into your skin you get a random ability
@@orcwarchiefreviews Was wandering about something like that. Two different ritual involving the heart. One where you, a spell caster, can use the heart to gain a spell boost of some sort and gain the dragons ability to cast spells without verbal or somatic components. Another to extend your life equal to either how long the dragon lived, has lived, or how long it has left to live.
@@infinitemind3719 I'd have to look but I think that's found in the dragon Lance setting but there are a couple rings that do something similar they're called rings a spell storing you can get Low levels one and higher level ones they're also spells of third level that allow you to do that as well you can nullify almost everything including components in second edition d&d 5e you can spec for
I saw some speculation in some piece of lore that the top of the mountain is a gateway to a higher reality, another multiverse, in a sort of opposite to the bottom of the Abyss being the passage from a destroyed multiverse that the Obyrith demons came from into ours.
Maybe the 7th heaven is when philosophy and physicality become one and you become literally made of good.
Hey mrRhexx, I love you content! Would you mind if I suggested a video?
My video concept is: what volo's doesn't tell you about the catoblepas. The catoblepas was always my favorite monster in d&d, I fly like this guy. He was overpowered I. second edition
If you already own the PDF please click here. 2:25
The top of the mountain is nothing but baby harp seals
So if it isn’t obvious - Mt. Celestia is based on Dante’s concept of Purgatory and his conception of Heaven from the Divine Comedy blended together. Just as much as Baator is based on his nine circles of hell.
Dante’s Purgatory is a tiered mountain that the dead must toil upon to ascend and perfect themselves before ascending to heaven.
His Heaven is made up of the crystal spheres that surround the earth in the Ptolemaic model, each embedded with a different celestial object - going in order the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn (followed by the sphere of the fixed stars and the Primus Mobile beyond that), the same order as Lunia (moon), Mercuria (Mercury), Venya (Venus), Solania (sun), Mertion (mars), Jovar (Jupiter), and Chronias (Saturn).
Does anybody know where the pic at 30:30 is from? I would love to see the whole thing!
Hello, please, where can I find the part about petitioners not dying, unless they die outside of mt. Celestia? Is it stated somewhere in the lore? Does it apply to angels?
Have you thought of doing a video about werewolves in dnd lore? I would love to learn more about those. I always use for videos as source for my writing and creation for new characters.
This series is out of this world!
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Since mortals can climb the mountains... I do wonder... what happens to offspring birthed within the whole Plane? Are they... born with a level of lawful good purity matching the mountain reached? Do they.... get transported down to Lunia? Are they cared for by Zaphkiel cuz innocense?
The absolute funniest moment in any of R.A. Salvatore's books is in the War of the Spider Queen series when the lichdrow Deir banishes Gromph Baenre (Archmage of Menzobarranzan) to the green fields. The interactions between Gromph and the halflings and their God are some of the funniest stuff ive ever read.
Please do a tiefling video! I'm playing one (the baalzebub variant) in a campaign and just sent the dragonborn one to my friend who's the party warrior.
The tip of the mountain is the friends we made along the way.
"What you dont know... is how to skin a dragon"
Me a MH Vet: Awfully presumptuous of you.
Well...from creation myth is basically of Cosmic oroboros. Soooo maybe top of mountain leads to bottom of the abyss? Imagine it like hour glass with one realms peak being others bottom.
It's crazy that even in DnD heaven, you still have to pay for everything. You would think that people living in a place dedicated to being good would be a bit more generous
If self perfection were cheap and easy then everyone would be perfect. lol
I mean tbh its clearly designed to be a campaign setting lol
I mean, death and taxes, right? It is the ORDERLY good realm, so like, no free lunch you hippies!
@@pathwaystoadventure You can definitely be a hippie here. Lol Some paths require you to be a hippie and stuff. Lol
limited resources logic
Reguerding battles against invaders in the outer planes, if the invaders die, don't they just respawn?
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The natives on the other hand, have the homefeild atvantage, but if they die, it's permideath...
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Except on Mnt. Celeste, where they can both respawn on their home plane?
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I'm trying to figure out what the rules are on this?
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Also, if you can permidie in the afterlife, dosn't that defeat the whole point of an afterlife?
Hi, would you consider doing a video on otyughs and neo otyughs? Their really cool and I'd like to know more about them
Would you get the chance Could you take a look into abishai I can't find anything concrete on them
"Trough dark rituals, turn itself into a Half Dragon..." Sexy Sax Music plays in the Background.
Are you done with the monster jam war, if so what monsters did you make?
If not, when do you think you'll be done so what do you think you'll make?
Im always looking for unique and weird campaign ideas and a pilgrimage to the tip of MT Celestia would be so damn fun.