I reckon (and certainly hope) that the Coach will be repairable, despite the built-in camouflage. Here in the UK, there are plenty of Preservation Societies and Railways and their ingenuity never fails. Thanks for posting.
If the Long Island Railroad can get it's old MP54 electric commuter cars from railroad museums and thru donations make copies of the electric motors in them, they will be as popular as the 1907 New York Transit Museum 1907 El train made of wood with open platforms and their original electric motors well lubricated and copies of parts for the brakes and air compressors. They are in good condition and the only change it the lowering of their roofs to clear modern subway tunnels. The electric commuter trains of the Long Island Railroad shared the same car bodies and motors except for the 3rd rail shoes for the L.I.R.R. and the pantographes for the overhead wires for the Pennsylvania R.R.
If you look at the coupler misalignment, it shows how the truck springs have collapsed. Those trucks need a complete rebuild, springs, bushings, shocks and pins. Also the draft gear needs to be rebuilt and all of the brake rigging. Air brake valves need to be replaced and tested. A lot of $$$ and labor.
I don't like the look of it either, that has "about to slip free" written all over it and even that wreck has enough mass to make a mess of stuff if it gets loose with enough speed.
When I was in Newport 1980-1983, we used that P70 on weekends for runs to the topiary garden. Rode like a caddy. My friend Jerry and I walked the entire line from Newport to the Sackonett River bridge chopping vegetation all the way. Found a washout no one knew about. Got it fixed. Fun times.
This is actually close to where I live. That coach has been hidden by the brush for many years. Surprised they moved it when I saw it out in the open when driving to work one day.
Once that passenger car gets all repainted and repaired it's going to look pretty nice there's an old B&O caboose down in Shawnee Ohio that's all repainted it looks really nice I may go down there again sometime in the future to do a video or maybe just get some pictures of it
Are you familiar with another Rhode Island filmmaker named Jason Allard? I think he explored this car as part of a demonstration for urban exploring. He’s done several films involving local railroad locations. Would be cool if you 2 could work together on something.
I have to admit being surprised that the wheel bearing had not seized up over the period of immobility. Or was there some earlier preparation not revealed otherwise?
I noticed there used to be a track there next to the main track and a old switch and is part of this line abandoned or does this railroad use it I noticed some of the old rusty tie plates where the old track used to be then I noticed the old abandoned track was disconnected from the main track where I noticed some of the old rails were still in place
Extrapolating from the description and from the video, it appears they cut the main and slewed it to connect with the isolated track under the car. I assume that the RR wil put the track back to where it belongs. Who knows, they might recover the rails of that isolated section for re-use somewhere else now that there is nothing sitting on it.
@@LunarEquity93 I ran freight down there to Portsmouth from Ferry Street yard in Fall River. Weyerhauser had a huge shed there along with Kaiser Aluminum. Kaiser had tracks to both ends of the building. There also was a runaround and a house track with a platform on the station side of the mainline. Track structure was in miserable shape part of the 8 mph campaign that so much of the railroad was relegated to.
The car was on an isolated section of track so the mainline was cut and connected to the isolated track. The temporary connection will now be removed and the mainline restored.
Does the Newport Dinner Train have facilities where they could repair a car like this, or would it have to be low-boy'd to some other location off-island?
Kind of a weird coupling move in the first part with a 1930s flatcar. Thankfully no buffer cars required with this, in that they could kick it and use simply the locomotive coupler, with ease.
looks restorable...but will take substantal $$$ to abate corrosion and rebuild the trucks and draft gear. If required fix the roof first to stop the corrosion inside the walls of the car.
Thanks for watching but it’ll likely be hauled by a locomotive. Pulling a passenger car with a budd car can really strain it. In fact in the 1950’s Budd threatened to void the warranty on them when the New Haven used them to pull passenger cars.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos hmm, what’s the horsepower and tractive effort of a Budd RDC as you could probably put one passenger car in between two Budd RDCs and it might be fine. Though, how would a non powered passenger car strain the RDC? Like what components would fail or be at risk of failure? On flat ground a two to one ratio (two RDCs for one passenger car) might work.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos After doing some research apparently the Rock Island Budd RDC-3 #9002 did pull a non-powered passenger car made by Budd from 1939 called “Bear Lake.” The RDC-3 pulled that car behind it until 1957 out of Memphis, TN. I do not see any information on if the RDC broke down or not but considering the same RDC was used it might not be so far fetched that it is indeed possible without breaking down. Though due to their age and visibility sake, two would be required.
Has anyone seen Quasimodo at all? That bell ringing really needs to stop immediately, there's no need for it. Thank god the rest of the world don't do it, as there would complaints about not being able to get any sleep because of the noise.
I'm just really surprised that the brain dead vandals and anal born spray paint "artists" haven't totally ruined this old coach. Hope to see more videos of it as it's being restored.
An air hose dragging along. Not my train so I don't give a rats attitude. So easy to do the right thing. Some railroad staff are the same world wide!!!! A waste of good oxygen.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos What! I don't need to Yanks know it all!! Had a 7 week holiday there a few years back and happy to leave. That's the last place on earth. Maybe a little care and all will be forgiven. Why didn't anyone remove the sbrubbs before you moving the old carriage - instead of spredding weeds.
I reckon (and certainly hope) that the Coach will be repairable, despite the built-in camouflage. Here in the UK, there are plenty of Preservation Societies and Railways and their ingenuity never fails. Thanks for posting.
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It's good to see old railroad passenger cars. Taken out of abandonment and be fully restored and put back into service.
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If the Long Island Railroad can get it's old MP54 electric commuter cars from railroad museums and thru donations make copies of the electric motors in them, they will be as popular as the 1907 New York Transit Museum 1907 El train made of wood with open platforms and their original electric motors well lubricated and copies of parts for the brakes and air compressors. They are in good condition and the only change it the lowering of their roofs to clear modern subway tunnels. The electric commuter trains of the Long Island Railroad shared the same car bodies and motors except for the 3rd rail shoes for the L.I.R.R. and the pantographes for the overhead wires for the Pennsylvania R.R.
Good to see someone trying to preserve the past
Good work mates
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If you look at the coupler misalignment, it shows how the truck springs have collapsed. Those trucks need a complete rebuild, springs, bushings, shocks and pins. Also the draft gear needs to be rebuilt and all of the brake rigging. Air brake valves need to be replaced and tested. A lot of $$$ and labor.
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May be just the track sink explaining why car was too low ?
Where was this & why was it moved?
I don't like the look of it either, that has "about to slip free" written all over it and even that wreck has enough mass to make a mess of stuff if it gets loose with enough speed.
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When I was in Newport 1980-1983, we used that P70 on weekends for runs to the topiary garden. Rode like a caddy. My friend Jerry and I walked the entire line from Newport to the Sackonett River bridge chopping vegetation all the way. Found a washout no one knew about. Got it fixed. Fun times.
Thanks for watching! This car never made it into service on the island but was rather the one that almost got going as a boutique.
Attempting to Save History. Thanks for the video. 👍🙏
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I enjoyed running 4764 when I was a volunteer at OCN. Great people to work with too.
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I wish them the best of luck getting that old lady back in service.
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It’ll buff right out
Nice save guys
Save a piece of history and hope to hope her on rails again in the future
They were very lucky to be able to to move that car the ties in that area are almost all bad they did a remarkable job great video thanks
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Hence the slow speed and careful monitoring of the guys on foot.
Old Colony and Newport give a new meaning to a railroad “going green”
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A wonderful illustration of railroading when on time and one-half.
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Magnificent, good to see this piece of ralroad put into the hands of people who cares.
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That passenger car is so happy..."THANK GOD I'M FINALLY GETTING MOVED"
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Are they going to scrap it.
@@waynelkohrjr.8557 I think they should restore it
This is actually close to where I live. That coach has been hidden by the brush for many years. Surprised they moved it when I saw it out in the open when driving to work one day.
Very dedicated people . Nice job .
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I hope this coach will be restored!!
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That creeking sounds like my back in the morning!
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I hope more videos of its restoration will be posted. As well as a video of its interior and exterior before work is started. Wish OCN success.
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Thanks for sharing the great news!
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Very cool. If you get a chance, show us the inside. I sure hope they restore this old gal!
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Good luck with the restoration, I'm surprised you didn't take the opportunity to test the carriage brakes.
That can be done another day. The objective was to get it off the isolated track so the main could be put back together.
I love seeing old equipment pulled out of it's grave and restored! It's all good solid history that young people need to explore.
Once that passenger car gets all repainted and repaired it's going to look pretty nice there's an old B&O caboose down in Shawnee Ohio that's all repainted it looks really nice I may go down there again sometime in the future to do a video or maybe just get some pictures of it
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I was surprised the coach rolled as quietly as it did. I expected bad bearings and alot of squeal.
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Hope it gets restored.
There is way too few everyday commuter equipment saved.
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Excellent video - super
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Registro espetacular demais amigo parabéns pelo excelente vídeo 👏👏
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I'm surprised it would even roll. Great video!
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Are you familiar with another Rhode Island filmmaker named Jason Allard? I think he explored this car as part of a demonstration for urban exploring. He’s done several films involving local railroad locations. Would be cool if you 2 could work together on something.
That’s awesome
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Awesome!
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Good job!
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I have to admit being surprised that the wheel bearing had not seized up over the period of immobility. Or was there some earlier preparation not revealed otherwise?
Likely some oil added to the journals.
That was hilarious the way the tree in back bounced on every tie! They should have left it like that the whole trip.💯
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"Fantastic video!👍"
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And the track that is cut off from the main track where does that go towards
I noticed there used to be a track there next to the main track and a old switch and is part of this line abandoned or does this railroad use it I noticed some of the old rusty tie plates where the old track used to be then I noticed the old abandoned track was disconnected from the main track where I noticed some of the old rails were still in place
Extrapolating from the description and from the video, it appears they cut the main and slewed it to connect with the isolated track under the car. I assume that the RR wil put the track back to where it belongs. Who knows, they might recover the rails of that isolated section for re-use somewhere else now that there is nothing sitting on it.
@@roboftherock Cool and that would be nice and I hope they can repaint that passenger car as well
@@LunarEquity93 I ran freight down there to Portsmouth from Ferry Street yard in Fall River. Weyerhauser had a huge shed there along with Kaiser Aluminum. Kaiser had tracks to both ends of the building. There also was a runaround and a house track with a platform on the station side of the mainline. Track structure was in miserable shape part of the 8 mph campaign that so much of the railroad was relegated to.
@@ruffian2952 Cool that's awesome
I love your videos. One suggestion, could you toss in a few maps to show us where the videos are taken at different points?
This was along Burma Rd in Middletown,RI
Looks better already
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A good carriage and wagon gang, will soon have it sorted out.
awesome, would like lore on what is a temporary track or patch for a cut section
The car was on an isolated section of track so the mainline was cut and connected to the isolated track. The temporary connection will now be removed and the mainline restored.
I hope she isnt sent to the scrapyard. that is a lovely old coach.
also that little locomotive is really cute!
Look at the rail joint right where they are hooking up. I don't think there are ANY bolts in that joint bar.
Beautiful wowow😍😍😍
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Nice catch... Was the front engine of the locomotive overheating?
😅yes this is it,toppie!!!!!!!!!!! now restore the wagon, thanks for this amazing coool video.greetz:🍐Peer. from the Netherlands. NL.😊👍👍👍👍
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Great video that passenger car is pretty old I wonder what year it has on it
It was built in the 1920’s
@@SouthCoastRailVideos Cool
Nice video
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Does the Newport Dinner Train have facilities where they could repair a car like this, or would it have to be low-boy'd to some other location off-island?
It’ll be done on the island.
It’s good to make use of old cars
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That's some serious Coupler height difference can see why you got rid of the idler r car
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if they stopped using it back in the 70's did they add grease to the wheels before moving it? it had to just coated in rust
gotta love switchers with connecting rods
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Now that was a very fascinating operation. How long has that car been out of service? What are they planning to do with it?
Thanks for watching! It was last used in the late 1970’s but sat in storage all these years. The plan is to get it in service if it is salvageable.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos I hope that will be possible let’s just hope it’s not too badly damaged from sitting all these years exposed to the elements
Update on the status of this passenger coach please
Obviously from the picture this is a branch line.
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If you look closely - was it not necessary to connect the air and make the brakes release before the car would move ??
Nope
any info about the truck frames? are they original?
That's, umm, quite a bit of over growth you pulled off that hillside and dragged with you.
It'll be interesting to follow what happens next
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😮😢Still much to work!🥺
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@@SouthCoastRailVideos Good luck. and God bless you!✝✝✝
What railroad is that car originally from? Good video.
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Listen to the rail creak. Old heavy coach.
I wonder when that car last moved?
Kind of a weird coupling move in the first part with a 1930s flatcar. Thankfully no buffer cars required with this, in that they could kick it and use simply the locomotive coupler, with ease.
The flatcar was to be used as a spacer over the temporary track but obviously didn’t work out.
What a nice old car . Can I use it for a small home ?
We have plans for it
Do Both engines on that 4764 work ?
Only 1
looks restorable...but will take substantal $$$ to abate corrosion and rebuild the trucks and draft gear. If required fix the roof first to stop the corrosion inside the walls of the car.
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Better get out the kd coupler guage
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Carriages in far worse condition than that are restored in the UK so shouldnt be a problem doing thisone up with time.
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Again...
...how is it going to be distinguished from other coaches once it is restored?
It’s the only P70 on the island, it distinguishes itself already
I wish I like to get me one I can make a home in yet
I'm an old railroading fan -- I hope I don't creak and groan like that rail car when I'm that age.
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jIOLI VID2O AVEC UNF UTUR POUR CE WAGON, mais il est probable que le cout va le faire disparaitre? Dommage.
Is that a old Pennsylvania Car??
Yes ex prr p70 coach
Hopefully there's more steel than rust....
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if you cant repair it could use trucks generater on some thing
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Surprised there was any windows in it and no graffitti
What railroad used to own that car??
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That thing is in pretty terrible condition, If it can be salvaged I’ll be amazed
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Body is relatively in good condition. Depend on planned use.
A lot of work to throw the switch that way. A lot of work to throw it back later!🤣😂
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What happened to that abandoned track
The mainline was restored, temporary track removed, and the track where the car sat is currently isolated again.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos no the track by the passenger car where the he video first started
The track next to the car is the mainline and was restored after the temporary track was removed
@@SouthCoastRailVideos oh
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So they restored it and removed the old one
When it is restored I say you tack it on to the back of an RDC for more passenger space and more bang for your buck.
Thanks for watching but it’ll likely be hauled by a locomotive. Pulling a passenger car with a budd car can really strain it. In fact in the 1950’s Budd threatened to void the warranty on them when the New Haven used them to pull passenger cars.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos hmm, what’s the horsepower and tractive effort of a Budd RDC as you could probably put one passenger car in between two Budd RDCs and it might be fine. Though, how would a non powered passenger car strain the RDC? Like what components would fail or be at risk of failure? On flat ground a two to one ratio (two RDCs for one passenger car) might work.
Rdc-9’s had no controls but it did have one engine instead of two on a normal rdc.
It could run with any other rdc.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos After doing some research apparently the Rock Island Budd RDC-3 #9002 did pull a non-powered passenger car made by Budd from 1939 called “Bear Lake.” The RDC-3 pulled that car behind it until 1957 out of Memphis, TN. I do not see any information on if the RDC broke down or not but considering the same RDC was used it might not be so far fetched that it is indeed possible without breaking down. Though due to their age and visibility sake, two would be required.
LOL, complete with trees.😄
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Minus some rust on the body it looks pretty good all things considered.
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Has anyone seen Quasimodo at all? That bell ringing really needs to stop immediately, there's no need for it. Thank god the rest of the world don't do it, as there would complaints about not being able to get any sleep because of the noise.
Glad you enjoyed the video
I'm just really surprised that the brain dead vandals and anal born spray paint "artists" haven't totally ruined this old coach. Hope to see more videos of it as it's being restored.
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An air hose dragging along. Not my train so I don't give a rats attitude. So easy to do the right thing. Some railroad staff are the same world wide!!!! A waste of good oxygen.
You can always come help out and show us what to do
@@SouthCoastRailVideos What! I don't need to Yanks know it all!! Had a 7 week holiday there a few years back and happy to leave. That's the last place on earth. Maybe a little care and all will be forgiven. Why didn't anyone remove the sbrubbs before you moving the old carriage - instead of spredding weeds.
@@pjr859 where are you from that is so wonderful?
@@danielthoman7324 In case you didn't read it ALL I said: "same world wide". Just for you that means ditto where I live.
HARRIMAN coach.
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