I love the sound of the ties and the metal creeking, the wheels squealing, and the low rumble of the prime mover! It's really great with headphones. Trains are awesome!
10 long years of neglect and it still moves as it was placed there yesterday!!! It is heartening to see an old abandoned siding being restored and used again!
Not just the car but the rails haven't had weight upon them for 10 years. Its quite amazing what a growing bush or sappling can do to rail beds over time.Nice performance
Great video! Really enjoyed the production of it too, i’m glad to see the photos at the end of the video. It’s good to see this railway pull out a stored car and shed some light on it, good thing you were able to catch this historic move!
Very Exciting....😮😮 Thank you for sharing......Hope you keep Showing this siding restoration and first car spotting......❤❤❤ Great you showcased this area ..Probably encouraging this new Customer. To use rail......😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊yeaaaaa😮
great catch, very unique... so this rail spur is coming back to life.... did the HRRC lose the file card on this one? is that gondola a cut down, recycled 40' boxcar? would be interesting to model.... and no graffiti, just rust....thank you for sharing !
While it hard to believe, sometimes cars do get lost. They end up in storage and lost in systems tracking system. We have found cars lost for years for clients.
Great video to see what has been abandoned to be restored for future service! That locomotive is a sharp looking piece. Thanks again for sharing this video with us along with your time and effort! Cheers from Laurel, Delaware USA. Btw, i have a question for you. Would you be willing to donate a sticker to my railroad room I'm creating. Im a disabled Delawarian due to a hereditary nerve disease and don't get out much. Trains are my passion and have been since i was 5. I have a section of wall that im putting these stickers that other UA-camrs have sent me. Thanks for your time and God bless you!
Why would the axles not turn? They are rotating on sealed roller bearings. We have some cars that sat in the weather for nearly 30 years that I moved, zero problems rolling besides the brake was slow to release (like seen in this video)
@@TheBeeMan1994because logic would dictate the numbnuts should have trimmed back the foliaged and checked or re-oiled any moving parts just in case. Not trust in ‘luck’ cos some had done it once before. No wonder the US has so many derailments compared to elsewhere with this sort of organising.
What an awesome capture! It's not every day you get to see that kind of stuff. It was a fun watch, and I bet it must've been cool to see history in the making! God bless you, fellow railfan, and take care. 🎩👌🏻 ~ Joseph trainonthetrack 10/19/2023
There is also a gallo siding in long island. That is a wine siding! Good thing to get the siding looks like the tracks and points are maintained passed the fixed frog!
Interesting car.... I wonder if it was Built like that. Or Modified.... And why was it left there so long.... RR hoping that Fly-ash loads would restart?
They dragged it out of the building and onto a siding so you don't really need that. If it was being moved a long distance or going back into service they would've done that.
Thanks for filming this interesting move. Wonder what sort of cars are on the train that pulled the abandoned car out of the siding. They sort of look like modified coal gondolas.
They are former rotary dump coal hoppers that were rebuilt and had higher car sides added. They are used to haul trash on the Mass Coastal “Energy Train”.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos thanks for the explanation! It's a good example of reusing a railcar. A lot of former rotary dump cars wind up hauling trash, scrap, used ties, or some other recyclable product.
That's the famous Sagamore Bridge over the tracks, which also bridges the Cape Cod Canal. We crossed the Sagamore many times when I was a kid, when our family vacationed on Cape Cod. The Canal separates Cape Cod from mainland Massachusetts.
Just saw that car today still in Sagamore at that same siding, you can kinda see it from the bike path. A bit further west, you can make out what looks like a Trackmobile.
In my living memory of this location, which only stretches back to about the time you and I met in 2014, that car NEVER moved. I bet if I dig through my computer I can find a picture, because I think I have one from that long ago (If so I'll share it in the fb group)
Update: I found the photo that I remembered. Taken 5/23/2014 from the Sagamore bridge. Unfortunately, the HRRC 2033 is not visible from the angle I was at - just the dinner train.
It would be interesting to understand this from the car owner's perspective. Does the car not have a positive market value? Why not sell it if you're not going to use it? Or sell it for scrap? Baffling.
Looks like the property owner could have gotten the brush and trees cut out so y'all could get it easier, and seeing the asphalt getting crushed was cool, there's a rail line down in North Carolina that is only partially used anymore, the line used to run from Durham to South Boston and had spurs off of it to Henderson (N.C.) to Richmond Va., the line now only runs to Oxford at the Certainteed asphalt shingles plant, all of the north bound road crossings are paved over with trees growing up between the rails the side rails going to Henderson and Richmond were taken out almost thirty years ago but a lot of the crossing barriers were left in place
@@flir67man84 I remember seeing the cars on the tracks, mostly up on the Virginia side, it's been ten years since I was down there so anything is possible but after all this time, I would think that the rail line has been abandoned on the North Carolina side
The property owner may own the car. The disposition was exactly what you see in the video, move it out of the way and a short distance into the nearby siding. I assume its future is to be determined.
Interesting. Something this simple is nice to see, in these days/times of ridiculous "news"! I'm thinking this old car was in reasonable shape because it was under cover. Thx for the share.
Wait a moment... I thought there were regulations on how long the brake systems on cars go without being thoroughly inspected and certified. There's no way that car should be good to go for any length of movement. Is the plan to have it scrapped?
enjoy see video of old abandon rail cars being move from there would be graves, but any thing to do with the RR that was abandon and being brought to life I enjoy, old cars, engines, cabooses, and old rail equipment bring brought back from retirement and used again/
For those unaware, the government ( Canada/USA ) does NOT allow railroads to simply abandon tracks because it makes sense for the RR. Yes. ALL RRs are compelled to keep their tracks 'in service' [ Imagine what that really means in each specific jurisdiction. ] until the government approves abandonment, one way or another. In the case above, the video, those tracks are legally deemed 'in service.' Heh. This extends to Europe, as well. It's the CUSTOMERS of the RR that bitch, bitch, bitch. Cement plants, aggregate plants, lumber mills can't survive without a RR connection. Yet the RR makes no money serving them. (!!!) Revenue, yes; profit, no. (The fees are regulated, also.) BTW, it usually is FALSE that the RR owns the land that its tracks pass over. Instead, the RRs are deeded an EASEMENT by the government -- explicitly so that they don't have to pay out for the land -- and litigate what its fair market value is worth. If you're a commercial operation that wants a new spur tacked on to the existing rail network, YOU must provide the land and extend an easement at your own expense. This is also replicated with such things as power lines/ buried electric... etc. Typically, you'll also be required to PAY for the track and its laying, too. When you're building an auto plant, steel mill, etc. -- it's all part of the game. The above truth does not apply to Land Grant Railroad mileage. In such (19th Century) dealings, the land ownership is handled by specific legislation. For the longest time CP rail was a government promoted / government owned railroad. ( In this case, the specifics get SUPER complicated since the period in question is way beyond 100-years of law, contracts and legislation.) In the US, land grant railroads were promoted -- in a major way -- by Washington -- but the US government refused to take an equity position. Loans with guarantees were the rule. This gets really complicated -- so read up on Credit Mobilé -- the biggest financial scandal of the 19th Century. It makes 20th Century scandals look small potatoes.
So if it is abandoned, how can someone claim rights to it? Meaning, if I somehow get railcar numbers for it, what would prevent me from using it for revenue?
AAR (Association of American Railroads) maintains a database of all in-service cars/locos and many retired ones. Everything is listed by their subsidiary Railink Corp. that runs the data base. All interchange between railroads and maintenance logs for equipment is in there as well.@@lancereagan3046
Abandoned siding restoration: Mass Coastal ballast train - Gallo, Sagamore, MA 3/14/2024
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I love the sound of the ties and the metal creeking, the wheels squealing, and the low rumble of the prime mover! It's really great with headphones. Trains are awesome!
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That is so cool! That’s two in a row old dinosaurs pulled out of extinction! Well done and thanks what you do for us.
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10 long years of neglect and it still moves as it was placed there yesterday!!! It is heartening to see an old abandoned siding being restored and used again!
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That's actually a really smart way of keeping the track from getting overgrown
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Not just the car but the rails haven't had weight upon them for 10 years. Its quite amazing what a growing bush or sappling can do to rail beds over time.Nice performance
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Great video! Really enjoyed the production of it too, i’m glad to see the photos at the end of the video. It’s good to see this railway pull out a stored car and shed some light on it, good thing you were able to catch this historic move!
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Very Exciting....😮😮 Thank you for sharing......Hope you keep Showing this siding restoration and first car spotting......❤❤❤ Great you showcased this area ..Probably encouraging this new Customer. To use rail......😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊yeaaaaa😮
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Awesome!!!!! Very cool to see it move again. Out with the old, refurbish, and in with the revenue!
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Very nice! Always good to see an old spur returned to service.
Great videos, thank you!
Wonderful. Thank you. Interesting how you just happened to be there when they made the move. 😉
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this is so amazing!! thank you so much, amazing really amazing
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great catch, very unique... so this rail spur is coming back to life.... did the HRRC lose the file card on this one? is that gondola a cut down, recycled 40' boxcar? would be interesting to model.... and no graffiti, just rust....thank you for sharing !
Thanks for watching! The spur is being restored for freight. The property owner might’ve purchased the car and it’s a gondola.
very well shot as usual
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the algorithm penalizes repeating verbatim replies jsyk.I know it doesnt matter probably but its ridiculous I noticed
That is without a doubt the jankiest looking gondola I’ve ever seen. But good to see it moving again.
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Looks like it was custom made for that customer, the wall on right side is lower than the rest of the walls for some strange reason
While it hard to believe, sometimes cars do get lost. They end up in storage and lost in systems tracking system. We have found cars lost for years for clients.
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@johnlicht9151 Would love to hear some of those stories!
Love your videos keep up the good work my man
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Great video to see what has been abandoned to be restored for future service! That locomotive is a sharp looking piece. Thanks again for sharing this video with us along with your time and effort! Cheers from Laurel, Delaware USA.
Btw, i have a question for you. Would you be willing to donate a sticker to my railroad room I'm creating. Im a disabled Delawarian due to a hereditary nerve disease and don't get out much. Trains are my passion and have been since i was 5. I have a section of wall that im putting these stickers that other UA-camrs have sent me. Thanks for your time and God bless you!
Thanks for watching! The stickers aren’t produced by me so you have to order from the store.
You’re right about the locomotive, I think they’ve been busy with the Turtle Wax…
@@aldo5428Give it time, it will look like crap.
Good one !
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Why are they fixing the siding? New customer there or Gallo needs another type of car (boxcar?) in there now?
Gallo is a new customer and will be receiving cars regularly
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Cool 😎
I’m surprised that car’s axles could still turn. I could see the wheels dragging when it first came out …
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Why would the axles not turn? They are rotating on sealed roller bearings. We have some cars that sat in the weather for nearly 30 years that I moved, zero problems rolling besides the brake was slow to release (like seen in this video)
Sealed bearings and sitting under cover mostly.
@@TheBeeMan1994because logic would dictate the numbnuts should have trimmed back the foliaged and checked or re-oiled any moving parts just in case. Not trust in ‘luck’ cos some had done it once before. No wonder the US has so many derailments compared to elsewhere with this sort of organising.
What an awesome capture! It's not every day you get to see that kind of stuff. It was a fun watch, and I bet it must've been cool to see history in the making! God bless you, fellow railfan, and take care. 🎩👌🏻 ~ Joseph trainonthetrack 10/19/2023
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Market place environments change. Sometimes after years and staff changes, it is discovered returning to rail is cost-effective
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6:50 What did the brakeman place next to the rail?
Locking the switch
There is also a gallo siding in long island. That is a wine siding! Good thing to get the siding looks like the tracks and points are maintained passed the fixed frog!
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Interesting car....
I wonder if it was Built like that. Or Modified....
And why was it left there so long.... RR hoping that Fly-ash loads would restart?
Modified, I think Gallo owns the car so they left it there
Isn't there a break inspection or something required after all that time to move a car?
They dragged it out of the building and onto a siding so you don't really need that. If it was being moved a long distance or going back into service they would've done that.
Did the flanges carve our new grooves in that black tap?
Looks like it
Awesome video. 👏👏
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love it
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Thanks for filming this interesting move. Wonder what sort of cars are on the train that pulled the abandoned car out of the siding. They sort of look like modified coal gondolas.
Did you notice all four are consecutively numbered too? #1013- 1016
They are former rotary dump coal hoppers that were rebuilt and had higher car sides added. They are used to haul trash on the Mass Coastal “Energy Train”.
@@SouthCoastRailVideos thanks for the explanation! It's a good example of reusing a railcar. A lot of former rotary dump cars wind up hauling trash, scrap, used ties, or some other recyclable product.
That's the famous Sagamore Bridge over the tracks, which also bridges the Cape Cod Canal. We crossed the Sagamore many times when I was a kid, when our family vacationed on Cape Cod. The Canal separates Cape Cod from mainland Massachusetts.
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Ok...and?
Great video,.killer horn!
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Great video. You seem to have a knack for being in the right place at the right time…how do you do it?
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What’s the new business? And are they running through the building with the new siding?
The customer is Gallo Construction and track is already through the building
Just saw that car today still in Sagamore at that same siding, you can kinda see it from the bike path. A bit further west, you can make out what looks like a Trackmobile.
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dang that railcar has been sitting there for 10 years and still moves!
Good job filming
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In my living memory of this location, which only stretches back to about the time you and I met in 2014, that car NEVER moved. I bet if I dig through my computer I can find a picture, because I think I have one from that long ago (If so I'll share it in the fb group)
Update: I found the photo that I remembered. Taken 5/23/2014 from the Sagamore bridge. Unfortunately, the HRRC 2033 is not visible from the angle I was at - just the dinner train.
It hasn’t moved since 2013 when ballast trains were running to fix the track for the capeflyer. It’s been on the property for longer though.
I thought I saw "MEC" on the reporting marks. Does anyone know the car's history? Will it be restored and put back in service?
HRRC but time will tell what happens with the car
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HRRC is Housatonic Railroad isn't it? I wonder if HRRC forgot the car ..
Great train 🚆 video.😊
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The inescapable march of time ,sooner or later it gets everyone and everything .....😢
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Superb ... Very interesting
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I'm curious, why did the train have several cars attached initially?
It had to deliver those cars on the same trip
@@SouthCoastRailVideos Makes sense. Thank you for answering!
Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
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It would be interesting to understand this from the car owner's perspective. Does the car not have a positive market value? Why not sell it if you're not going to use it? Or sell it for scrap? Baffling.
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why was the cars right side wall lower than the left? it looked like a gondola at first.
They cut it down, I guess for access
Am i reading the reporting mark correctly as HRRC?
Yes
Great catch! One odd looking car. Steve
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I have a picture of this rail car outside on the siding from 2004
Looking at the springs as they pulled it out it looks like it's loaded.
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Too cool
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That’s one way to keep a car from getting all graffitied up
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A nice bath, some tender loving maintenance and some creative graffiti and that gondola will be as good as new.
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What went on in that building?
They used to load fly ash into railcars (as the description says)
Well at least it was "garage kept."
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What is the reason the car was left at the spot?
Why was it moved?
Try reading the description
What railroad did that car belong too?
At one time Housatonic owned it but I don’t think they do anymore
Looks like the property owner could have gotten the brush and trees cut out so y'all could get it easier, and seeing the asphalt getting crushed was cool, there's a rail line down in North Carolina that is only partially used anymore, the line used to run from Durham to South Boston and had spurs off of it to Henderson (N.C.) to Richmond Va., the line now only runs to Oxford at the Certainteed asphalt shingles plant, all of the north bound road crossings are paved over with trees growing up between the rails the side rails going to Henderson and Richmond were taken out almost thirty years ago but a lot of the crossing barriers were left in place
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I know that line in NC their was a huge amount of coal cars stored on the usable portion of the line.
@@flir67man84 I remember seeing the cars on the tracks, mostly up on the Virginia side, it's been ten years since I was down there so anything is possible but after all this time, I would think that the rail line has been abandoned on the North Carolina side
Is this site being prepared for future C&D loading?
Its possible. There's a number of commodities that could potentially move through this site. Stay tuned!
Very interesting, why leave it sitting soo long? Who owned it? Never seen a gondola like that, notice one of the side walls was cut lower….
It may be owned by the property owner but who knows. It sat because it had no where else to go I assume.
Interesseting video :)
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Nice Friggin catch
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I can hear the car go 'OOWWWWW' need more grease, human!
Awesome hopefully they redo it put the car back into service again
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Who owns the car? What was the disposition? Was demmurage collected?😅
The property owner may own the car. The disposition was exactly what you see in the video, move it out of the way and a short distance into the nearby siding. I assume its future is to be determined.
Interesting. Something this simple is nice to see, in these days/times of ridiculous "news"!
I'm thinking this old car was in reasonable shape because it was under cover.
Thx for the share.
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Cool
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Wait a moment... I thought there were regulations on how long the brake systems on cars go without being thoroughly inspected and certified. There's no way that car should be good to go for any length of movement. Is the plan to have it scrapped?
Wonder what’s inside the gondola?
Concrete
What was it loaded with?
Not technically loaded but my understanding is that someone poured concrete into the car years back.
enjoy see video of old abandon rail cars being move from there would be graves, but any thing to do with the RR that was abandon and being brought to life I enjoy, old cars, engines, cabooses, and old rail equipment bring brought back from retirement and used again/
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That's cool 😎
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Poor thing.😢
What business or industry was served by that siding?
Gallo Construction
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Thats a hell of a lot of dwell time!
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Near real-time video posting! Thanks
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Interesting video. It looks like a modified boxcar.
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What is that car used for? It's an odd design that I have not seen.
It’s a gondola but someone cut it down for some unknown reason
i’m surprised it sat that long and its tires never went flat..
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Hurray! it has been freed from its tomb!
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Aren't old cars time limited? They scrap them after so many years?
Time limits don’t matter if you just leave it there one day and never come back. Lol
That car has vintage written all over it. The rivets tell the story.
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Yes. That was cool, but instead of just a move, it should have been an extraction. Man what a move. 👍👌✌️🤓
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I didn’t know I had a siding
Interesting car. Pulpwood I imagine.
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Whats the story on that car?
Last used about 12 years ago and has sat ever since
New customer coming?
Yes
Strange gondola with a high side and a low side.
One side might've been cut down by the property owner.
What’s interesting is no graffiti..thanks for sharing..
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4 things I’ll restore
Steam Locomotives
Diesel Locomotives
Cabooses
And Finally
Freight Cars
For those unaware, the government ( Canada/USA ) does NOT allow railroads to simply abandon tracks because it makes sense for the RR.
Yes. ALL RRs are compelled to keep their tracks 'in service' [ Imagine what that really means in each specific jurisdiction. ] until the government approves abandonment, one way or another. In the case above, the video, those tracks are legally deemed 'in service.' Heh.
This extends to Europe, as well. It's the CUSTOMERS of the RR that bitch, bitch, bitch. Cement plants, aggregate plants, lumber mills can't survive without a RR connection. Yet the RR makes no money serving them. (!!!) Revenue, yes; profit, no. (The fees are regulated, also.)
BTW, it usually is FALSE that the RR owns the land that its tracks pass over. Instead, the RRs are deeded an EASEMENT by the government -- explicitly so that they don't have to pay out for the land -- and litigate what its fair market value is worth.
If you're a commercial operation that wants a new spur tacked on to the existing rail network, YOU must provide the land and extend an easement at your own expense. This is also replicated with such things as power lines/ buried electric... etc. Typically, you'll also be required to PAY for the track and its laying, too. When you're building an auto plant, steel mill, etc. -- it's all part of the game.
The above truth does not apply to Land Grant Railroad mileage. In such (19th Century) dealings, the land ownership is handled by specific legislation. For the longest time CP rail was a government promoted / government owned railroad. ( In this case, the specifics get SUPER complicated since the period in question is way beyond 100-years of law, contracts and legislation.)
In the US, land grant railroads were promoted -- in a major way -- by Washington -- but the US government refused to take an equity position. Loans with guarantees were the rule. This gets really complicated -- so read up on Credit Mobilé -- the biggest financial scandal of the 19th Century. It makes 20th Century scandals look small potatoes.
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So if it is abandoned, how can someone claim rights to it? Meaning, if I somehow get railcar numbers for it, what would prevent me from using it for revenue?
Technically someone still owns it, it was more abandoned in the physical sense rather than the legal.
@SouthCoastRailVideos So how would someone figure out ownership? What's the RR equivalent to a DMV?
AAR (Association of American Railroads) maintains a database of all in-service cars/locos and many retired ones. Everything is listed by their subsidiary Railink Corp. that runs the data base. All interchange between railroads and maintenance logs for equipment is in there as well.@@lancereagan3046
It looks like.they built that gondola out of a box car.
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Those rail cars need some maintenance
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WHAT IS THE STORY OF THE HOPPER CARS SHOVED IN THE SIDING TO PICK OUT THE CAR IN QUESTION???
VERY UNUSUAL IN THE WORLD OF HOPPERS!!
They are former rotatory coal hoppers rebuilt and extended for trash hauling
Looks almost like a old stump car
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I wonder how many cars railroads have tucked away like this one
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