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Very frustrated with HR's career counselors - they don't prepare grads well enough to find work after the Boot Camp. Most places will still demand a traditional 4 year degree and tech companies have been laying off their workforce so it has been very competitive.
I spent a couple months studying for the entry exam, passed it, and started the fulltime program a month later at the end of 2020. This program was waay too advanced and intense for me. I really found this only to be geared towards people with a background in programming. 12 hour days, there is 0 time to go back and study concepts and learn the material. The material was by no means low quality, but you simply *must* have a fairly high familiarity with coding/programming or you will be left in the dust. I say this cause i dont want people to invest the money, get there, and not be ready. I wanted a bootcamp b/c I wanted teaching and instruction. This is not that. It is guided projects with very advanced testing and quizzes along the way. If you dont make the cut, you wont advance. So don't invest the money if you aren't ready for it.
@@Ram-rm2gz Javascript. That's what the entry exam was made up of. The more understanding you have of it, the better. But i would caution you from the program, HR is a large $ investment and not a good format imo
I agree. I'm doing the pre-work now and it not taught well. The person doing does it but doesn't explain it well and tends to ramble on. Which is tough because I hang on every word go he trails off.
Thank you sooo much for this interview!! This was incredibly informative. I’ve never done coding (besides self taught info) and I am doing the test prep for Hack Reactor now but now I know there are a few things that I need to learn outside of the prep. In addition, I understand that I’d rather study more and build a stronger network BEFORE I even jump into the bootcamp. This is now my second favorite channel (after my Christian fellowship channel). You are greatly appreciated man, truly! I pray you have serious growth and success on your channel.
Thanks for the Good interview. Don asked good questions & kept the atmosphere engaging. The panel were open & not guarded or defensive because you set the appropriate environment. Please keep these interviews going.
Really cool video, thanks for putting this together. Only suggestion is to call on a guest when you ask questions. There's a bit of silence after each question because nobody knows when to speak.
No problem. Nah, that would make it feel more like an interview, and I'm trying to move away from that. Most of the time everything starts to flow smoothly within about 10 minutes, but because I'm inviting random people with different personalities, you'll get that once in a while. I'd be completely open to feedback that would create a smoother conversation AND turn the interview into a more conversational style approach though. If you have any ideas, let me know.
Hey don great video. Have you considered having 3 guests that all come from different boot camps? It’d be interesting to hear how much their answers differ when given a question.
Thankyou for doing reviews on each existing bootcamp. I am in the process of looking for one for online study. Many of these bootcamp are $10,000 and up. That's 1 or more years of someone's paycheck. It is good to know each bootcamp camp's pro and con before signing up for class.
Hey Don! Considering you’ve done so many interviews and through your own research, do you have a list of your top 3 recommended coding bootcamps? I narrowed my choices down to Hack Reactor and General Assembly. Seemed like hack reactor prepared their students more in your first interview, but I’m considering going with General Assembly so I can start next month. Not sure if there are others that I haven’t looked into that might offer better outcomes
Also, my friend just finished the bootcamp and she said she started with 30+ ppl and graduated with 17max. This was 3months ago…. Maybe they should lengthen the full-time and part-time courses so that a few more moments may be spent on harder concepts.
Html, css frontend wise. Backend wise not enough focus on db design (when to use nosql / sql dBs) and especially system design basics. A lot of the good bootcamp people were either in STEM / CS (engineering requires a decent number of programming classes) or studied javascript for a good year before getting into the program.
Can review Sabio? Theres a lot of programs that are offered to veterans as part of the VET TEC program and i think it would be really valuable to all us veterans to see first hand accounts of peoples experiences in all these boot camps.
Can you please provide the website you referenced in regards to the statistics of how many people graduated from this bootcamp compared to others? I tried to find it and was unable to. Thank you! (It was mentioned a few times, but also on the 35:00 mark)
When they make class shorter than 6 month, it's to get people to graduate on their timeline and as soon as possible so they can get more money coming in and enroll more students. If too intense, you don't have time to absorb everything information/material you read, heard, and was taught in class. If you fail then have to shell out more money to retake class again. You spend all that money to attend class, should not make experience stressful and rush people align the assembly belt.
@@DonTheDeveloper I did but must have missed the part where she said she quit. I recently quit Hack Reactor after only 3 days so that’s why I was curious. I was considering giving them a 2nd chance but they do not go into depth with anything at all so I think I will pass on Hack Reactor…thanks for these reviews btw they’re very helpful
@@Alysia.in.Wonderland That might be my bad. Looking through the audio transcript, I’m realizing she was pretty subtle about mentioning it, but yeah that’s what happened. Sometimes I get comments that have a "that's sus" vibe, especially when a guest shares something they didn't want to hear and it breaks the perception that they had about the program, so they just decide to doubt the guest’s credibility. I’m glad you like the content though. Hopefully, you find the right one for you.
Hey don! I found your video because I am about to retire from the military after 20 years (aviation maintenance/organization maintenance management background). The military offers a free vet to tech program through galvanize for an 18wk course. Do you have any advice or pointers for a guy like myself that has zero actual programming experience (aside from basic html stuff I did way back in high school) to get a head start before I start the program? Any books or resources I should be studying?
That might require a few extra follow-up questions to give some tangible advice. Feel free to swing by one of the live streams sometime and we can talk about it then.
@@buckwheatboiplease update us as you continue the program! I actually am interested in the 19 week program and want to know how it turns out for you !
@@buckwheatboi great info! I’m also looking into joining the 19 week program in February. Haven’t done any free courses, but going to start tomorrow. Please keep us updated!
codecademy full stack. I'm actually doing that as we speak but just started yesterday but it's, to me at least, really good. A lot don't like it though.
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Very frustrated with HR's career counselors - they don't prepare grads well enough to find work after the Boot Camp. Most places will still demand a traditional 4 year degree and tech companies have been laying off their workforce so it has been very competitive.
Wow. First off thanks Don for this review. This was way more honest than I expected. I love Seen So's honesty and perspective
I spent a couple months studying for the entry exam, passed it, and started the fulltime program a month later at the end of 2020. This program was waay too advanced and intense for me. I really found this only to be geared towards people with a background in programming. 12 hour days, there is 0 time to go back and study concepts and learn the material. The material was by no means low quality, but you simply *must* have a fairly high familiarity with coding/programming or you will be left in the dust. I say this cause i dont want people to invest the money, get there, and not be ready. I wanted a bootcamp b/c I wanted teaching and instruction. This is not that. It is guided projects with very advanced testing and quizzes along the way. If you dont make the cut, you wont advance. So don't invest the money if you aren't ready for it.
thank you appreciate being honest!
what do you recommend we do or learn before joining?
@@Ram-rm2gz Javascript. That's what the entry exam was made up of. The more understanding you have of it, the better. But i would caution you from the program, HR is a large $ investment and not a good format imo
I agree. I'm doing the pre-work now and it not taught well. The person doing does it but doesn't explain it well and tends to ramble on. Which is tough because I hang on every word go he trails off.
So you were just out all of that money??
Thank you sooo much for this interview!! This was incredibly informative. I’ve never done coding (besides self taught info) and I am doing the test prep for Hack Reactor now but now I know there are a few things that I need to learn outside of the prep. In addition, I understand that I’d rather study more and build a stronger network BEFORE I even jump into the bootcamp. This is now my second favorite channel (after my Christian fellowship channel). You are greatly appreciated man, truly! I pray you have serious growth and success on your channel.
I appreciate that!
Thanks for the Good interview. Don asked good questions & kept the atmosphere engaging. The panel were open & not guarded or defensive because you set the appropriate environment. Please keep these interviews going.
Really cool video, thanks for putting this together. Only suggestion is to call on a guest when you ask questions. There's a bit of silence after each question because nobody knows when to speak.
No problem. Nah, that would make it feel more like an interview, and I'm trying to move away from that. Most of the time everything starts to flow smoothly within about 10 minutes, but because I'm inviting random people with different personalities, you'll get that once in a while. I'd be completely open to feedback that would create a smoother conversation AND turn the interview into a more conversational style approach though. If you have any ideas, let me know.
Hey don great video. Have you considered having 3 guests that all come from different boot camps? It’d be interesting to hear how much their answers differ when given a question.
I have not. I'll keep it in mind though. Thanks for the suggestion.
I need a general assembly one. Thinking about attending the only in person Bootcamp In Chicago this February
It already exists under DonTheDeveloper channel
I am in Chicago as well, did you end up attending? Any feed back? Thanks
I love it how this pops up on my recommanded as I'm currenlty in the hack reactor program LMAO . great video!
12 or 19 week? Hows it going?
Thankyou for doing reviews on each existing bootcamp.
I am in the process of looking for one for online study.
Many of these bootcamp are $10,000 and up.
That's 1 or more years of someone's paycheck.
It is good to know each bootcamp camp's pro and con before signing up for class.
omg ty I'm thinking about going here now.
Hey Don! Considering you’ve done so many interviews and through your own research, do you have a list of your top 3 recommended coding bootcamps? I narrowed my choices down to Hack Reactor and General Assembly. Seemed like hack reactor prepared their students more in your first interview, but I’m considering going with General Assembly so I can start next month. Not sure if there are others that I haven’t looked into that might offer better outcomes
I do not, but I'll be talking about it tomorrow.
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Also, my friend just finished the bootcamp and she said she started with 30+ ppl and graduated with 17max. This was 3months ago…. Maybe they should lengthen the full-time and part-time courses so that a few more moments may be spent on harder concepts.
These ratios keep getting worse...
I dropped out after like 3 days because they move too fast onto new material & don’t give you a chance to truly master anything
@@Alysia.in.Wonderland was the technical assesment hard?
@@kevinrocky4443 I didn’t have to take one because it’s not required for their 19-wk program
@@Alysia.in.Wonderland do you plan to attend another bootcsmo
Thank you so much for interviews
You're welcome!
Html, css frontend wise. Backend wise not enough focus on db design (when to use nosql / sql dBs) and especially system design basics. A lot of the good bootcamp people were either in STEM / CS (engineering requires a decent number of programming classes) or studied javascript for a good year before getting into the program.
Can review Sabio? Theres a lot of programs that are offered to veterans as part of the VET TEC program and i think it would be really valuable to all us veterans to see first hand accounts of peoples experiences in all these boot camps.
There's a form link in the video description where you can request reviews.
Excellent interview! Thank you.
Awesome vid! Do you plan on making 2022 reviews for App Academy and Full Stack?
I'll keep them in mind. Thanks for the suggestions.
Thanks!
No, thank you! I appreciate the support Paula. It means a lot.
Can you please provide the website you referenced in regards to the statistics of how many people graduated from this bootcamp compared to others? I tried to find it and was unable to. Thank you! (It was mentioned a few times, but also on the 35:00 mark)
cirr.org
Rrrrrrrtrrrrr
When they make class shorter than 6 month, it's to get people to graduate on their timeline and as soon as possible so they can get more money coming in and enroll more students.
If too intense, you don't have time to absorb everything information/material you read, heard, and was taught in class.
If you fail then have to shell out more money to retake class again.
You spend all that money to attend class, should not make experience stressful and rush people align the assembly belt.
Curious as to why Seen So’s LI profile says she graduated from Flatiron with no mention of Hack Reactor…🤔
Why would she mention Hack Reactor on her profile if she didn't complete it? Did you watch the full episode?
@@DonTheDeveloper I did but must have missed the part where she said she quit. I recently quit Hack Reactor after only 3 days so that’s why I was curious. I was considering giving them a 2nd chance but they do not go into depth with anything at all so I think I will pass on Hack Reactor…thanks for these reviews btw they’re very helpful
@@Alysia.in.Wonderland That might be my bad. Looking through the audio transcript, I’m realizing she was pretty subtle about mentioning it, but yeah that’s what happened. Sometimes I get comments that have a "that's sus" vibe, especially when a guest shares something they didn't want to hear and it breaks the perception that they had about the program, so they just decide to doubt the guest’s credibility.
I’m glad you like the content though. Hopefully, you find the right one for you.
Can you interview people who attended codesmith?
I already have William. I got you.
Hey don! I found your video because I am about to retire from the military after 20 years (aviation maintenance/organization maintenance management background). The military offers a free vet to tech program through galvanize for an 18wk course. Do you have any advice or pointers for a guy like myself that has zero actual programming experience (aside from basic html stuff I did way back in high school) to get a head start before I start the program? Any books or resources I should be studying?
That might require a few extra follow-up questions to give some tangible advice. Feel free to swing by one of the live streams sometime and we can talk about it then.
Do guy know is the 19 week program has been any more successful?
I’m curious to hear from graduates of the new 19-week course.
@@buckwheatboi how's it going? what did you end up deciding on?
@@buckwheatboi hey man how is it going ?
@@buckwheatboiplease update us as you continue the program! I actually am interested in the 19 week program and want to know how it turns out for you !
@@buckwheatboi great info!
I’m also looking into joining the 19 week program in February. Haven’t done any free courses, but going to start tomorrow.
Please keep us updated!
I'm trying to figure out which organization she said at 1:00:00 that she would recommend.
codecademy full stack. I'm actually doing that as we speak but just started yesterday but it's, to me at least, really good. A lot don't like it though.
@@JoeCnNd thanks. Hope your journey goes well.
@@michaelchurch2076 Thanks and you too.
Lmao Ryan is one serious guy. Great interview!
For sure. Nice guy though.
Stop misusing the word burn out!