5.3 swap into S13 240sx - how-to, advice, etc.
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2016
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DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE, I HAVE COPY AND PASTED THE PART LIST IN THE DESCRIPTION! SEE BELOW!
I recently finished this budget 5.3 swap into my 240sx drift car, and am making this video to show how I did it, what parts I used, etc. The total swap cost $3700 running and driving, INCLUDING the cost of engine and transmission.
One thing I left out, was the starter. I used the starter from a 2008 Silverado 2500, 6.0L gas motor. It is smaller in both diameter and length than the suburban starter, and is meant for a bigger engine, so it turns over this 5.3 with no problems or hesitation at all. About $60 brand new form rockauto.com
For the flywheel/clutch/etc info, use this link:
www.v8s10.org/forum/viewtopic....
The 7th post says what parts and part numbers to use. Dont worry about the mentioned throwout bearing or starter (use above starter). Like I say in the video, use the oem S10 internal slave cylinder/bearing if using the NV3500 trans. As for the flywheel bolts, I bought a set of ARP flywheel bolts for the listed truck in the forum.
For the ECU wiring info, use this link:
lt1swap.com/
VERY detailed explanations of everything you need to do to convert your ECU and harness to "standalone" operation, with pinouts, guides to de-pinning, etc.
The motor mounts can be found on eBay, by the seller "profilesmkt". great seller, excellent work, fast shipping. He has a listing for motor mounts ONLY, as well as motor and trans mount for a T56 setup.
I hope this info helps at least 1 or 2 people, because I know it sure would have made it easier to gather info when I was researching this for 4 months.
Thanks!
COST, ITEM
Local items
$(10.32) Home Depot
$(4.35) Advance Auto
$(14.14) Home Depot
$(22.12) Lowes
$(32.68) FPR gauge and -6 ORB to -6AN fitting
$(14.49) angle steel
$(171.09) odds and ends, advance auto
$(13.85) fittings and 4" intake clamps
$(2.71) hose clamps
Engine
$(600.00) engine/ecu/harness
$(200.00) GTO oil pan
$(25.00) rest of oil pan payment
$(11.90) 3an x 16" braided line (oil press sender)
$(3.05) 1/8 npt to 3an fitting (oil press sender)
$(7.00) 1/8 npt female to 3an fitting (oil press sender)
$(27.68) GM 12572654, engine oil pickup tube
$(34.64) lower temp t-stat and ECT sensor
$(77.87) fuel rail kit
$(31.90) 2x O2 sensors
$(125.00) ECU tune/flash
Exhaust
$(529.55) Hooker headers
$(87.83) 2x 3" and 2x 4" exhaust tubing
$(27.96) 2x 3" exhaust flex sections
$(33.32) 2x 3" v-band flange kits
Intake
$(28.14) 4" aluminum intake pipe
$(12.89) 3.75" to 4" intake coupler
$(9.38) 3.75" 90* intake coupler
Master Cyl
$(49.94) wilwood 260-1304 master cylinder
$(21.15) Rigid Racing master cylinder adapter
$(7.19) 3an to 3/8 banjo
$(6.33) 3/8-24 banjo bolt
$(15.00) 3an x 36" braided line
Power Steering
$(39.72) custom PS hose
$(7.99) m16x1.5 oring to 6an power steering pump fitting
$(15.98) m14x1.5 and m16x1.5 to 6an PS rack fittings
$(42.99) power steering cooler
$(9.98) 2x 6an female to 3/8" barb, power steering cooler
$(4.99) 6an female to 3/8" barb, PS rack return fitting
$(48.50) Turnone steering adapter PN1115
Transmission
$(500.00) trans; w/ slave cyl, shifter, yolk
$(287.81) flywheel, clutch kit, pilot bearing, starter
$(31.49) ARP 330-2802 flywheel bolts
$(27.53) Russell slave cylinder adapter fittings
$(38.98) remote bleeder kit
$(292.84) custom driveshaft - Авто та транспорт
I think I'm doing a good job keeping mine cheap. I got the 240 for a grand, sold ka, trans, driveshaft, rear end, wiring harness, stage 2 clutch, and lightweight flywheel for like 400. Traded an extra turbo straight across for my 5.3 with harness and ecu from a 99 Silverado. Gotta pick up a new rear end, going for a ford 9 inch. Comp. stage 2 clutch/new flywheel, the t56 and I'm making my own single piece driveshaft. And I still need to get the motor mounts and new sway bar. So 1000-400+ probably another 1500 puts me at a pretty good setup for pretty cheap. Good video for sure. Keep it up
Wow this is just what I needed! Awesome video. I appreciate the quick but precise rundown of what is needed for the 5.3 to fit and work properly!! Thank you for posting this.
THANK GOD I CAME ACROSS THIS!!! I'm in the process of buying a 91 240sx right now and this 5.3L swap is what I wanted to do ever since I planned this out this purchase so this video will help me immensely. thank you man!
Planning on doing this swap after I finish my 1jz vvti is300 swap. Dig the depth on this! Well done man
Thank you thank you thank you thank you for making one inclusive and in depth video on how to do the entire swap. Starting this project myself and this seems like it will be incredibly helpful as a reference. THANKS
Always good to hear someone that works and builds their one ride.
You're a total hero. I've been considering a 5.3 swap for my S13, but finding a T-56 was my hangup point.
While I'd love to step up to a T-56 or TR6060 someday; knowing that a 4.3 S10 trans will work is enough to get me by. THANKS A MILLION!
this is sick dude. just found this vid after thinkin bout doing a v8 swap in my s14. im only in 2 mins in ur vid just wanted 2 say already thumbs up for providing all this info for us🤘👌
BackIntoGear thank you man!
That's the good thing about a 5.3.... They're every where. hope to see you back on the track soon. TN not to far from me might come check you guys out up there.
Thank you so much for this information. I didn't realize the NV3500 was an option.
this is an amazing vid. thanks for taking the time to show ppl ur hard work. goood luck with the future of the car
Thanks for the putting this video up i almost spent 12k to get a complete brand new ls3 erod motor
Dude. This is awesome. Fits in there great!! I’m excited to drop mine in soon!!!
know it has been 3 years +cooperc240. But i just picked up a 240 with a frozen stock engine. i been looking at swap prices and everything is crazy prices. for 3600 i can swing that. Wish i just knew all the ins and out of swapping. I rebuilt my rb in skyline and modded a few LS's but never swapped on in a different chassis.. I am watching all the video's on youtube i can. Thanks for the info provided.
Good luck man! It's not too bad really
@@cooperc240 thanks for the words man. never done it before and been looking at GTO/G8/trucks that are wrecked at insurance auction "COPART" stuff like that to do a easy swap. No ka24 or sr20 around me close really.
Any progress report I'd love to see your build ?
dang dude I hate to hear that. v8 is an easy rebuild I'm sure you be back in no time. hopefully we will get a awesome video on the rebuild that's as detailed as this one. thanks again man for taking the time out.
I want to do this swap soon! Thanks for posting!
Thanks man, that helped heaps. I am doing a LS1 swap in my s14 in Melbourne Australia.
Awesome video man. Thanks for sharing. Good luck this season brother!
Killer video people need to see how much goes into a swap!
Good video! Enjoyed watching, good build!!
thanks, I appreciate it!
Just picked up my 6.0 LQ4 from a Denali!! Been meaning to ask how your hood clearance is. I keep coming back to this video for reference. When you get a chance I'm sure others would love to see an update video. Thanks again 👍🏽👍🏽
+yitzac1991 don't know how I missed that lol I just saw where you ran without a hood entirely. Thanks again.
Awesome. Thanks for making this!
Great info. Great swap. 👍👍👍
great info admire your hustle
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Sweet video! This is going to help a lot! Thank you
Youre welcome man, my goal was to help people!
Thanks man. Def good info
Great vid. Very helpful.
Sorry to hear about bearing, can you go with an external reservoir and pump. I think that's they way the vette ls is set up because of the same problem.. Good video, nothing better than building it yourself, that way when something goes wrong you can fix it because you know everything about it.
I rode with you a couple years ago when you stopped by Monroe, GA. I bet this thing gets crazy with a v8! I've been looking into getting a 240 hatch, but nothing is showing up on Craigslist. I want to get into drifting so bad but I have a jeep 😂
if you can't find a 240, try a fox mustang, those make killer drifters aswell
yea I get these crazy Ideas in my head about swapping a brand new ls3 in a mint condition 240sx..then boosting it and then I finally come to realize..no way in hell I can afford any of it
freaking awesome video
Great video! Lots of detail. Did you know you can remove that oil filler neck and use the cap only? Or was the hole just for style?
Good advice thanks for the vid
that hose on the pump is actually a pretty good idea. i kinked the shit out of mine lol.
Thank you for doing the price sheet
you have 240 in your name so you got yourself a sub.
haha, appreciate it!
Im working on a s40sx swap v8 with a corrvett, it would turn into a 620sx
Nice, thinking about doing this instead of ls2.
IMO, if you gained any type of HP and Torque with this build compared when you first started. #Goodshit #Beproud
looks like you didi most the work your self.. & im just wondering, what are your thoughts on moving the engine a few inches back into the engine bay?
Great video appreciate the breakdown. I wasn't able to find where you got your mounts online =. Any clarification or pricing on that? Thanks in advance.
+yitzac1991 found it! much appreciated!!
How much power are you putting down with this setup?
Thats awesome, I just did the exact same thing on my s13 but went carb instead of efi ! How is the nv3500 holding up ? And would you happen to have the exact lenght of your drive shaft (abs or non-abs diff) ? that would save me tons of time, nice build hoping to see some drifting videos soon :)
+yitzac1991 Thanks for the info, yeah I just welded and installed my diff so the only thing missing is this drive shaft, I'm going to take your advice and measure it before sending it to a drive-shaft shop. And with all the snow here in Quebec I am far from being in a rush ;) You might look at the 350z cd009 trans with the collins adapter plate when you get your heads and cam, Overall price seems to be near a used t56 and poeple tend to appreciate de cd009 trans more than the t56. Well thanks again and good luck with your build !
Also for maybe some hard to fab parts, try www.sikky.com they have everything for complete swap
hey man are you familiar with wiring the LS harness on the f3 plug?
what is the f3 plug?
Thanks a lot for the video, what you did with the sway bar link? Thanks
+yitzac1991 thanks for the quick response
A mid 60s c-10 w327 ie:5.3l seems to be about right.
How did that rock Auto clutch special hold up? Thanks for posting
No problems. Sold the clutch when I sold the trans setup
Thank you so much for this!
No problem, share with your friends!
Will do. Most of my friends love to give me crap for not going JZ/SR for my swap choice lol. I just can't wait to hear the V8 rumblin' in my car!
hey man nice! im actualy gonna follow your process so i can finish my project as fast as possible, one thing i dont see anywhere what engine mounts u used im struggling with those, most od the kits are expensive af!! can you help me with that?
I used motor mounts from my friend bryan broberg, I do mention them in there. he's got an eBay Store but I forget the username off the top of my head
you can find him @slidn240sx (insta) or the ebay link
www.ebay.com/itm/240sx-ls1-ls2-lsX-engine-swap-motor-mounts-ONLY-s13-s14-jdm-ls7-t56-NO-Trans/182178043543
What motor mounts did your say you used? I heard Brian something.
What oil pan did you have to use?
well done sir. could you do a volvo 240 for me when you get a chance?
provide the car and all the parts and sure
I scrolled through comments but found no answer. I can’t find the guy on eBay anymore and was wondering if anyone knows if I could just use the isr ls swap mounts instead
It can work and it plug and play.
Want radiator hose part u use for lower radiator hose
Not sure....watch the video and it says what I did
nice swap!
My cousin just gave me a 5.3L. so imma use that for a swap into something. only thing is this 5.3 has drive by wire not a cable throttle
You can simply swap throttle bodies to make it easier, as long as you use the right ECM/tuning.
badass, didnt know you can just swap throttle body having the correct ecm & software. Thanks!
yep, should be that simple! or just swap out the entire intake manifold
Do you have picture of how you cut your crossmember ? So for all questions doing it tomorrow.
No I don't. But like I said, theres tons of info and pictures online.
did you miss to mention what you did with the motor mounts? any info?
watch the video and read the comments sir. The motor mounts can be found on eBay, by the seller "profilesmkt". great seller, excellent work, fast shipping. He has a listing for motor mounts ONLY, as well as motor and trans mount for a T56 setup.
Bro post more vids of the 240
Jose Rodriguez haha I know, I need to. I have like 3 events worth of video sitting on my computer, just been real busy with other stuff
Trying to find video on shifter
It was custom made
Did u go with a pilot bushing an what part number its my only problem
Korry Femison yes it was a bushing, but I forget the part number. See the link in my description that talks about clutch stuff
I'm thinking about doing this, but i also can't find forums on it!
+yitzac1991 Man, I'm going the route you did, can you please send me the excel sheet? I would really appreciate your help on your engine set up because everything else is super expensive!
+Carlos Bravo kevinbdc1994@live.com
What trans is in the car?
Did you have to cut cross member for that gto pan?
Yes the subframe has to be notched. There is a ton of info on doing this online
Damn sun I'll race you in the S14
Being able to bleed the clutch from the driver's seat, now that's whats up. About how long did it take, fabrication and all that extra stuff included? I've got the shop - if I ever stopped dailying / when the KA dies, I'm prly not putting another KA in mine.
so about a year at my pace lol, thanks bro
Long time I don't see your videos bro, I finish my build I did the same as you, everything is ok bro ? Miss your videos thanks
I was just at LS Fest, more videos soon!
Can you use a ls1 intake manifold with the Lm7
Lam Nguyen yes but im pretty sure you have to change all the accessories too because the water pump outlet I think would be in the way
Do you know how well a 4l80e will fit? Have a 90 240sx
Im not totally sure, but I know the tunnel would still need to be hammered or modified.
Do you have the link or part number for the oil pan ?
Search Pontiac gto oil pan, you should find the part number pretty easily. However I'm pretty sure they are discontinued so you'll have to find used or NOS.
Did you have to change any drive shaft or differential
OEM differential, custom shaft
Where did you get gto oil pan? Just a stock oil pan from gto?
Yeah it is, I found mine local from a friend
Im in the process of doing this just got my engine started but how do I wire in the harness to the s13 dash plug?
Dexter Oliver not sure, I didnt do that haha
Dexter Oliver plenty of info online though. Just find which wire coming out of the ecu matches the wire for that function on the dash plug
Did you have to relocate the oil filter?
Nope, GTO pan with oil filter right on the pan.
Could everything you did translate to the 6.0 truck motors? I keep seeing them in my local yards as opposed to the 5.3 for some reason. Thanks in advance.
+yitzac1991 appreciate it 👍🏽👍🏽
Picked up a widebody 240 for $800 without an engine ;))
nice informative video man. I'm thinking of doing a ls swap in a s13. i just finished one in a 89 rx7 but had to sell it for down payment for a house. how would you compare the power of this compared to a sr20. also are you on facebook?
Dusty McElroy it may not be as fast as a built/higher boost sr20, but you can definitely tell a difference in torque. I had an sr and it kept giving me problems after I built it, so I wanted something with power without having to deal with forced induction
cooperc240 i gottcha, i had a s14 with a notchtop sr20det with gt2871r and all supporting mods before and it was pretty quick. the ls i just had built was a 5.3 bored to a ls1 bore 5.7 with t56 and i had a stage 2 cam with upgraded valve springs, high pressure oil pump and trunion upgrade and everything brand new. probally didnt have 2,000 miles when i sold it, but i never got to really get on it, needed a beefier rear end than the stock rx7 had. i plan on building something again tax time this year and i think im set on s13 chassis. what did you have to do for cross member and oil pan. forgive me if its in this video i tried to listen close while working. are you on facebook if so look me up. my name is Dusty McElroy from Greenwood Sc, my cover photo is of my old RX7. i would love to get the build list as well man. sorry to be a bother
Dusty McElroy I used a GTO oil pan so subframe had to be notched. the build list is in the description
hood clearence?? wat about on a s14
infinite hood clearance beause you have to cut it lol. need car accessories and intake for hood to fit normally
what did you do for wiring this up?
I must have missed it
Can you send me that excel sheet?🤔 trying to do a ls swap to my 240
Mario Castro check the vid description
Did you have to cut anything on the fire wall to fit it?
No but you have to beat the Trans tunnel to fit the bellhousing
There's a 30 dollar weld in tranny tunnel on Enjuku Racing for stuff like this
I feel ya on that. me too..lol
how about the wiring ? im doin the same swap but havent seen anything online about the wiring ?
+Ace King If you don't want to tackle the wiring yourself you can buy a pre made harness for the swap.
can you please pm me the sheet with all the parts purchased??? thank you!
+yitzac1991 manzi451@gmail.com
any link or some guidance to find those?
here is his ad, you can message him on ebay and ask for just the motor mounts:
www.ebay.com/itm/240sx-ls1-ls2-lsX-t56-engine-transmission-swap-motor-mount-kit-s13-s14-jdm-ls7-/181668517694?hash=item2a4c49973e:m:m7416UM0QBuj_5WAkntD4Ug&vxp=mtr
I was curious about what oil pan was used and did it require k member modifications? what it front or rear sump? did you install a high volume oil pump? things of that nature
stock GTO pan and oil pickup tube, and yes the subframe needs to be notched. front sump. i went with an aftermarket high pressure/high volume oil pump now (Melling), but at first I kept it stock.
do you have any footage of notching and welding back the k member? and thank you for the info! this video was a huge help on alot of questions
i dont have any footage of it, but there is tons of info and pictures online about notching it for setups like this. luckily I got the pan and subframe from a friend, so it was already notched
sounds good man i appreciate it
where did you install turnone PN1115?
I actually posted another video detailing that. It went straight into the pump, and then a 6AN adapter fitting goes into that TurnOne piece.
@@cooperc240 i found your video SUPER HELPFUL! Thank yoh
hey man what ypu did for harness?
Antonio Gonzalez read the description man. stock truck harness modified for standalone operation.
you got your self a subscriber. so just to clarify you spent 3700 total with everything you listed in tbe details of this video?
+yitzac1991 you are a damn life saver. gonna reconsider doing turbo now on my car and just go with this same parts list you did
+yitzac1991 one more question did you run thr stock 5.3 accesories
+yitzac1991 oh mannn!!! suhhweerrt!!!! thanks
+yitzac1991 great job on keeping tabs on price man. one thing though that would be nice i you listed what brand the parts where on some of the stuff you listed lol. in gonna follow this same build to do to mine.
+yitzac1991 nice
Will stock s13 mounts on crossmember not work?
I am using aftermarket solid aluminum mounts but I believe OEM mounts would work also
What solid aluminum mounts?
I dont even remember, I got them so long ago. Just something off Ebay Haha
Did you use the stock Nissan rear end??
Yes, with welded diff
And it’s held up? Lol impressive
Yo I'm about to order a nv3500 did the shifter come out the factory hole or did it come further forward and if so how further forward did come I wanna keep all my oem interior ,
It's in the video bud. It is forward of OEM
@@cooperc240 I saw that you said that I was asking do you recall about how fsr it roughly is I heard on a forum it was like 14in but your video doesn't seem like it's 14in
@@06RHDSUBIEWAGON I don't remember at all. You can use my video to try and estimate the distance though
@@cooperc240 Roger that's what I've been doing honestly not alot of guys have been using the nv3500 . Do you still have it in the car now?.
@@06RHDSUBIEWAGON that Trans is long gone lol
Firebird and Camaro and corvette are not crap btw
He wasnt calling it crap
update: i have my motor, a cheap 4l60e (i know its a bad choice, but i cant argue with 150 dollars. and im going full manual valve body so thatll take strain off of some of the clutches. got a 60mm turbo, just need to work my fuel, get a driveshaft, and sway bar. any other suggestions or advice??
+yitzac1991 its not too big. it uses the same mount as a t56, and ive already "massaged" my tranny well with a hammer. im gonna look and see what i can do to build this tranny a bit too so i get some life. but itll save me a good bit of money vs t56 and save some work. im in my swap about 1500 including my car though. trying for under 2500 budget for a boosted ls 240
+yitzac1991 did you have to relocate the oil filter? ir does it work with gto placement
+yitzac1991 awesome, ill definitely do that then. and im guessing you suggest something better to move oil? sorry to hear about your motor , but it seems like it handled a fair amount of abuse for a cheap motor
How do you learn swaps like this
Just gotta do it
Did you have to modify the crossmember with the GTO pan?
itsmelemmy yes you have to notch it
@@cooperc240 hey, what do you have to do to get it to fit? im doing the swap right now and need an oil pan
@@noahtetreau6636 you can Google search how to notch the subframe to fit the gto pan. It's hard to describe over text
@@cooperc240 okay thanks, would it be worth it to get a gto pan and notch it or just get a swap pan like a sikky pan
@@noahtetreau6636 I like the gto pan but I did get a good deal on it. Some swap pans can be around the $500 range, so it depends how much you wanna spend
Wiring video please
Mario Castro lt1swap.com has all the info you need
360p? What did you film this with, a potato?
I thought it was a beat that he filmed it with at first
What diff are you running? how much will a stock ka24de single cam diff hold. amd where did you go for mounts on the engine as well as driveshaft
Will Thies stock welded diff. these diffs are strong and I have never heard of a diff breaking from an ls swap, as long as the welds are good and strong. engine mounts are from a buddy of mine, I can try to get you a link. driveshaft is custom from an off road shop. it's 3" steel.
cooperc240 alright. thanks man thinking about using what cash i have i can pick up, albeit a pretty hoopty 240 with a single cam and manual trans, with a complete 5.3 from an 07 silverado with 70000k for 1000 bucks total. you dont think i could use the standard trans right, get an adapter to fit on a 5.3?
Will Thies what do you mean by standard trans? the nv3500 bolts right up, no adapter needed
cooperc240 using the trans from the ka. budget build
Will Thies haha there are no adapters to use a ka trans. and if you had a custom adapter plate made, it would probably cost more than the nv3500. also, ka trans is weak
How much KM does the engine have? How long does it take to do this swap? Is expensive than RB26 swap?
when you say KM, do you mean kilometers? I think it had around 200k miles, so about 322k KM. to research and gather parts, it took me maybe 4 months. the physical labor of doing everything from start to finish took me about a week. because I had never done a V8 swap before. I have never done an RB26 swap, or any RB swap for that matter, but I can tell you that just an RB engine alone is probably about half of everything needed for this swap.
@@cooperc240 You did all this work on your own? I would like to do this swap on my 240sx but i am kinda worry on the electrical wiring. Did you swap wiring and does power window, door lock, and wiper work after complete the the swap. The engine look like beast and fast so i guess you don't really need hydraulic ebrake to drift.
@@red666A this is/was a purpose built drift car, so no power windows, no power locks, etc. the wipers work via custom wiring to my dash switch panel. I do still have a hydro e-brake, it always can come in handy!!
@@red666A and yes I did all the work myself
Yes I am doing the research on LS swap. I would to put it into my 240sx and drift the hell of it. Check out my 240sx.
Is there a way to relocate the shifter position so that i don’t have to cut anything up?
Omar Perez not with this transmission unfortunately