Rickey Henderson, the all time greatest lead-off man in the history of the sport, got 94.8% of the vote, which is scientific evidence that baseball writers eat paint chips.
@John Doe I mean jeter was black and was unanimous and Ruth didn’t get 100% of the vote in 32 so I don’t think it was a race thing just they all drink room temperature water thing like psychopaths thing
I never will forget the day he broke the stolen base record. He makes some speech about how he is the greatest of all time. Then Nolan Ryan threw his 7th NoNo. That did not last long, Ricky.
I'm torn between the two camps. On one hand I believe in the importance of advanced SABRmetrics to accurately evaluate a player. But on the other hand . . . I'm Italian.
counter point to "every single other player other than Derek Jeter is underrated": Mariano Rivera got 100% of the vote, therefore he must be the MOST fairly rated player in MLB history
@@georgemartin5980 That's gotta be some like regional influence on your sample or something. I had never even heard of Rivera until like last year, but you bet your ass I knew who Derek Jeter was
“If some of you are hyper aware of Derek Jeter’s defensive metrics, the idea of physical exercise is probably terrifying to you” I haven’t been this lit up in years
I thought this started being a shitpost but it veered into being what I can only describe as the thesis of Baseball Bits and then veered right back to shitpost lane.
@@dannyc.2039 it was probably at the end where he tried to defend Derek Jeters defensive metrics by saying he is the Owner of the Marlins and hire the first Female GM. As far as I’m concerned Derek Jeter is doing a worse job as Owner of the Marlins than Geoffrey Loria, and that is saying something.
@@soarinskies1105, Loria-era Marlins: achieve success Geoffrey Loria: immediately dismantles the team 2020 Marlins: achieve success Sherman/Jeter: doesn't immediately dismantle the team yea I dunno about that one chief, and that's not even mentioning how the 2020 Marlins couldn't have happened in the first place without the good managing they received
Not enough people are saying what a great job you've done for the UA-cam community by practicing your presentations in front of prestigious universities of learning so you can perfect the content I watch when I sit on the toilet. What a legend.
The fact that Babe Ruth did not get 100% of the votes is evidence that there are most likely voters who have never actually watched baseball but just vote for the coolest names.
“Jeter is more famous than isiah kiner falefa” Debatable. I saw the the rangers exit the team plane once and there were tons of people who were screaming his name. He had quite a fan base over there.
Now that’s a lie, everyone knows women don’t exist. There are only men, men and of course, the ghost of Mike Piazzas mustache which gives birth to more men every year.
bailey, clearly you didn’t go to a southern connecticut high school in 2014, or else you’d know that “RE2PECT” is pronounced “ree-two-pect” (and you would also say it constantly for years afterward)
I have always been baffled by the fact that we choose to further distinguish HOFers amongst each other - I mean, it's the Hall of Fame, it's the absolute pinnacle of sports achievement.
I disagree. Just as someone is or isn’t a hall of famer, some people in the HOF deserve to be inner circle members. Ted Williams, Ruth, etc are freaks among freaks, if that makes sense. Making it to the MLB doesn’t mean that you should be treated the same as Juan Soto or Kershaw, who are more distinguished than the average player in the MLB. In both cases, however, ANYONE who makes it to the MLB or HOF deserves massive respect, just some more than others.
@@joelambert7128 Well you used the operative word; almost. The NFL & CFB, are extra popular because of gambling, not the love of the game. I watch sports, baseball in particular, for the love of the game. Yes I have favorites, but I do love playing devil's advocate and having a friendly debate. Plus our favorite players aren't necessarily the "best". Cheers
So if jeter played a decent right field would that really have taken away from the hate of a Yankee who won multiple titles? No they’d hate him even more and complain that he didn’t play shortstop.
I'd like to see a Cal Ripken and Derek Jeter comparison. Stat and award wise obviously. Cal won't beat Jeter in a popularity contest whatsoever. It just would be nice to see who's the better player.
Metrics suggest it's Ripken. Jeter was probably the better overall hitter but Ripken was the better overall shortstop. Both are rightfully in the Hall of Fame so it really doesn't matter to me personally.
That was an amazing ending to the video. I was fixing an appliance, just listening to the video while working away. The last point made me laugh out loud. Great video.😅👍
Don’t forget that jeter career was literally a movie, 3000th hit was a homer, his last hit at Yankee stadium was a walk off. The dude literally lived every kids dream every day
No way, it was a weak oppo blooper against an expensive double-a team. The hit being overrated definitely fits the theme though. Actually, i take it back; that walk-off really was the perfect way to cap off his career.
the Larry Walker / ID joke reminded me of the time Dustin Pedroia actually DID get IDed trying to get into the players entrance at Coors field during the 07 ws
As an old guy I always like Jeter when I watched him live. Hated the Yankees, but Jeter was the one guy you gave respect to. It wasn't because he was the best, but because you always felt like he was giving 100%. This was partly just a cultivated image, but there was some kernel of truth to it. Everybody hated A-Rod despite his skills. I watch baseball from 1987 to now so I saw Jeter's entire run. He was one of the mythical figures of that time. Sometimes sports is just about larger that life stories.
maybe my favorite video of you, mr foolish. just the way you made your argument especially from the middle to the end is much the way i allign my beliefs. love ya
@@donfromregularshow4469 he was only a mediocre defender late in his career. Not easy to play shortstop for 20 years. Plus the guy made every big time play throughout his entire career. Absolute winner
@@soldemers7809 Yeah, and the Marlins haven't yet proven they're doing it well. They won pandemic baseball, sure, but then they sold lots of their talent again the next year. So perhaps it's a re-re-build?
@@Qball42 the fact that they did not take 2020 as an accurate measure of how good their team was is a sign that this rebuild is in fact being done properly. They should be a threat to the NL East by 2025.
I could not put it into words better bailey fantastic job but I believe you should put a cool theme as the background of your next power point presentation
I believe it's annoying what has happened with Jeter because it's a subconscious recognition of how the media hyping something that benefits them SUCKS.
Somewhere this almost became a Barry Larkin video. I am ashamed I underrated him so much! (Great video by the way, first time seeing this guy and almost exited the video but was funny/ridiculous at times but brought it all home with a real compelling argument that I thought was almost impossible at the beginning.)
Camp 3: You are a Red Sox fan You say Derek Jeter is bad, you know Derek Jeter is good. Big Papi is the greatest most famous baseball player in the world ask anybody* *in Boston
Rickey Henderson, the all time greatest lead-off man in the history of the sport, got 94.8% of the vote, which is scientific evidence that baseball writers eat paint chips.
@John Doe I mean jeter was black and was unanimous and Ruth didn’t get 100% of the vote in 32 so I don’t think it was a race thing just they all drink room temperature water thing like psychopaths thing
I never will forget the day he broke the stolen base record. He makes some speech about how he is the greatest of all time. Then Nolan Ryan threw his 7th NoNo. That did not last long, Ricky.
@@scsmith4604 what does throwing a no hitter have to do with stealing bases
@@scsmith4604 this is the dumbest comment i’ve read in years
@@scsmith4604 remember when Nolan Ryan won a cy young..greatest of all time
Derek Jeter will always walk in the shadow of Tim Locastro
tim locastro is currently walking in the shadow of andrew heany
facts
Tim LoCastro is the 🐐.
Number of torn ACLs going hard for the Yanks:
T-Lo: 1
Jeets: 0
Simple math really
this shit had me crying, probably one of the funniest youtube comments i’ve ever seen
I'm torn between the two camps. On one hand I believe in the importance of advanced SABRmetrics to accurately evaluate a player. But on the other hand . . . I'm Italian.
Gabagool
Italian or a pervert?
Now this is facts
@@Stunsify ain’t that the same thing?
@@Im-_-Ghidorah andrew is an embarassment to his heritage and his family name. don't even get me started
counter point to "every single other player other than Derek Jeter is underrated": Mariano Rivera got 100% of the vote, therefore he must be the MOST fairly rated player in MLB history
but he got more than Jeter so he is overrated
He got the assignment
But how many hot celebrities did he date?
I think I've heard about Mo from more non-fans than Jeter.
@@georgemartin5980 That's gotta be some like regional influence on your sample or something. I had never even heard of Rivera until like last year, but you bet your ass I knew who Derek Jeter was
My only issue with this presentation is that “ringzzz” should have 5 z’s one for each ring.
5/10
More like 5/7
R2NG2
shouldn't your rating be 3/5, since bailey did in fact put in 3 zs out of the 5 that were supposed to be there?
RingZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
@@belcavendishny Damn you! I waited 2.5mins for my internet to un-f5€k itself to say exactly this.
So also, thank you. And we’ll done.
“If some of you are hyper aware of Derek Jeter’s defensive metrics, the idea of physical exercise is probably terrifying to you” I haven’t been this lit up in years
Derek Jeter is the second most fairly rated. Mariano Rivera is the most fairly rated
This is a very great point. We all agree he’s the best closer ever and move on.
I would argue Griffey is up there too. We all love Griffey
Came here to say the same thing
Jeter should have been 100 percent but so should Griffy and others like him
but mariano rivera is undoubtedly greater at what he did than jeter. by foolish logic, mo is still underrated a bit.
“If you talk smack about Derek Jeter’s defensive metrics, you’re a misogynist.”
I thought this started being a shitpost but it veered into being what I can only describe as the thesis of Baseball Bits and then veered right back to shitpost lane.
There was a moment in there where I was like “YEAH WHAT HE SAID”
@@dannyc.2039 it was probably at the end where he tried to defend Derek Jeters defensive metrics by saying he is the Owner of the Marlins and hire the first Female GM. As far as I’m concerned Derek Jeter is doing a worse job as Owner of the Marlins than Geoffrey Loria, and that is saying something.
@@soarinskies1105 they’re rebuilding the farm, he’s doing fine.
@@soarinskies1105,
Loria-era Marlins: achieve success
Geoffrey Loria: immediately dismantles the team
2020 Marlins: achieve success
Sherman/Jeter: doesn't immediately dismantle the team
yea I dunno about that one chief, and that's not even mentioning how the 2020 Marlins couldn't have happened in the first place without the good managing they received
@@fluffly3606Lol
This feels like a Talking Points presentation in Jackbox and I loved every second of it
Not enough people are saying what a great job you've done for the UA-cam community by practicing your presentations in front of prestigious universities of learning so you can perfect the content I watch when I sit on the toilet. What a legend.
The fact that Babe Ruth did not get 100% of the votes is evidence that there are most likely voters who have never actually watched baseball but just vote for the coolest names.
"this stat is cherry pick and you are bias" -Foolish Baseball himself, 2021
I can confirm, I am a weird little nerd.
Yes yes you are
"Let's remove all other baseball players you could compare him to. On his own, Jeter earned all of this"
God this channel is so good lmao
Does that mean that Mariano Rivera is properly rated as he got 100% of the HOF votes
No that means Mariano is the only overrated player in MLB history.
mike trout has more playoff HRs, RBIs, and a higher OPS vs Kansas City than derek jeter. checkmate buddy.
Vs Kansas city
@@williamwoods8977 r/woosh
“Jeter is more famous than isiah kiner falefa”
Debatable. I saw the the rangers exit the team plane once and there were tons of people who were screaming his name. He had quite a fan base over there.
Doesn’t count.
short porch, counts
I also highly doubt anyone there was screaming Jeter's name, so
to be fair that name is fun to say
"Thank you for listening to my xTed talk" - Bailey in a discarded script (probably)
As a woman I sign off on the closing point. Especially as a 90s born Yankees fan who played MI.
Now that’s a lie, everyone knows women don’t exist. There are only men, men and of course, the ghost of Mike Piazzas mustache which gives birth to more men every year.
Congratulations on solving it Bailey! Awaiting the Nobel Prize announcement
bailey, clearly you didn’t go to a southern connecticut high school in 2014, or else you’d know that “RE2PECT” is pronounced “ree-two-pect” (and you would also say it constantly for years afterward)
I like how Bailey upgraded his production levels on this one, the libreoffice slideshows Foolish Baseball does just don't cut it like powerpoint does
I have always been baffled by the fact that we choose to further distinguish HOFers amongst each other - I mean, it's the Hall of Fame, it's the absolute pinnacle of sports achievement.
I disagree. Just as someone is or isn’t a hall of famer, some people in the HOF deserve to be inner circle members. Ted Williams, Ruth, etc are freaks among freaks, if that makes sense. Making it to the MLB doesn’t mean that you should be treated the same as Juan Soto or Kershaw, who are more distinguished than the average player in the MLB. In both cases, however, ANYONE who makes it to the MLB or HOF deserves massive respect, just some more than others.
Seems like something someone who isn't in the inner circle would say
I think the most important thing to remember is that baseball fans, myself included, love a good debate of "who's better".
@@greatloverofmusic1 there is almost no point in following professional sports if you aren't going to pick favourites.
@@joelambert7128 Well you used the operative word; almost. The NFL & CFB, are extra popular because of gambling, not the love of the game. I watch sports, baseball in particular, for the love of the game. Yes I have favorites, but I do love playing devil's advocate and having a friendly debate. Plus our favorite players aren't necessarily the "best". Cheers
I love how this channel started as high-class behind-the-scene youtube videos and now is just shitposting
As any good second channel should be
Larry Walker has 1 more WAR than Derek Jeter with 4200 less at bats and plays right field over shortstop
I found the weird little nerd online!
@@bryanzzz748 he didn’t say anything bad about Jeter. He said some unbiased stats
@@WerdThorton You’re right, but he brought up WAR, and that’s a little online nerd stat. I only care about RBIs let’s go baby 27 rings go yankees
Kenny Lofton has like 5 less lol
So if jeter played a decent right field would that really have taken away from the hate of a Yankee who won multiple titles? No they’d hate him even more and complain that he didn’t play shortstop.
"Everyone one is underrated "
What I hear : Sport Mccallister is underated
I'd like to see a Cal Ripken and Derek Jeter comparison. Stat and award wise obviously. Cal won't beat Jeter in a popularity contest whatsoever. It just would be nice to see who's the better player.
Metrics suggest it's Ripken. Jeter was probably the better overall hitter but Ripken was the better overall shortstop. Both are rightfully in the Hall of Fame so it really doesn't matter to me personally.
@@squirrelguy2195 agreed
I mean it’s most definitely Ripken
it’s cal, it’s easily cal. and that’s coming from a yankees fan
Cal had a lot of off-years and put himself above the team with his streak.
The dating diamond had me fucking dead lmao
That was an amazing ending to the video. I was fixing an appliance, just listening to the video while working away. The last point made me laugh out loud. Great video.😅👍
S-tier video. Genuinely loved it. That line “you look like me” made me spit take all over my living room but it was worth it. Great work 👍👍
It's wild how this started SO FUNNY and ended up making some great points. Great work, FB!
This is probably your funniest video. Keep up the good work.
Bailey giving us the insight on the true problems in our world.
This is put together about as well as my 5th grade science presentation on how many planets there are(it's 9 btw)
Actually there are 8 planets. Pluto is no longer considered a planet.
You're amazing. Excited to see where you land in a few short years. Thanks for the laughs.
Bailey never told me to open my eyes. I’m now blind.
Don’t forget that jeter career was literally a movie, 3000th hit was a homer, his last hit at Yankee stadium was a walk off. The dude literally lived every kids dream every day
Exactly
No way, it was a weak oppo blooper against an expensive double-a team. The hit being overrated definitely fits the theme though. Actually, i take it back; that walk-off really was the perfect way to cap off his career.
That's a lovely way to resolve the conflict! Great work!
This is what we've all been waiting for. And, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Probably the best closing line of any video you’ve ever done.
Thank you my friend are nerds and argue about this with me all the time
Joey from da Bronx seems like a reasonable guy.
"If you go & ask someone on the street who is not a Baseball fan..."
Ya but what if I'm roaming the streets of Osaka?
munenori kawasaki for sure
Definitely Matt Murton
i know it was in the 1930’s but how did babe ruth not get 100%? who were the 4.9% that said babe ruth wasn’t a hall of famer?
Probably salty Red Sox fans.
4:37 that’s my favorite thing I’ve ever heard you say
I'm very dumb and don't get it. What am I missing?
What did he mean by that ?
Yeah I don’t get it
@@yankeeshater It goes back to when Mariah was 19 she was told her right side was her good side and now it's the only way she'll pose for photos
Thank you for the very in depth content mr baseball
the Larry Walker / ID joke reminded me of the time Dustin Pedroia actually DID get IDed trying to get into the players entrance at Coors field during the 07 ws
All time content. Im gonna start using powerpoint in my day to day deliberations with my friends, gf, and family
As an old guy I always like Jeter when I watched him live. Hated the Yankees, but Jeter was the one guy you gave respect to. It wasn't because he was the best, but because you always felt like he was giving 100%. This was partly just a cultivated image, but there was some kernel of truth to it. Everybody hated A-Rod despite his skills. I watch baseball from 1987 to now so I saw Jeter's entire run. He was one of the mythical figures of that time. Sometimes sports is just about larger that life stories.
Exactly
invest in a DJ+ metric that normalizes player value across space and time so that all players are properly rated
I knew the wojaks we’re coming
I accidentally came upon this video while perusing crime videos... Very good. I agree. Excellent points.
This was better than all 3 lectures I sat through today
Have to love the high level of quality here LOL
Epic content. I'm a Yankee fan and a Jeter fan and I can't even be mad. Great stuff here.
maybe my favorite video of you, mr foolish. just the way you made your argument especially from the middle to the end is much the way i allign my beliefs. love ya
When ppl bring up his defensive metrics they always conveniently forget about his 5 gold gloves at shortstop
u mean the five gold gloves he got purely cuz of his fame and not his actual mediocre defense?
@@donfromregularshow4469 he was only a mediocre defender late in his career. Not easy to play shortstop for 20 years. Plus the guy made every big time play throughout his entire career. Absolute winner
@@donfromregularshow4469 you are just so wrong
@@jackgreco2864 If by big time play you mean his jump throw thats basically standard for a good defensive SS, then yes
@@cutmeloosebruce1955 big time I mean rly good/great plays in big games like playoff and ws games
I, for one, am very excited to watch him give this talk at the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference next year
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen
One of the weirdest but actually best vids I've seen in a while
Im the nerd guy in most discussions then I turn into Joey for the Jeter debate
I genuinely loves these vids
need more of this content
Lmao I have Tatis, Semien, and IKF on my fantasy team.
Love all your vids, you’re the best 😂
Good thing the Marlins are so good no one can doubt Jeter’s greatness now
Do you know what a rebuild is?
@@soldemers7809 Yeah, and the Marlins haven't yet proven they're doing it well. They won pandemic baseball, sure, but then they sold lots of their talent again the next year. So perhaps it's a re-re-build?
@@Qball42 the fact that they did not take 2020 as an accurate measure of how good their team was is a sign that this rebuild is in fact being done properly. They should be a threat to the NL East by 2025.
This was an awesome video! SUBSCRIBED👍
Super enjoyable this one, top video!!
I love this sort of budget baseball bits
As soon as I saw the second camp photo I rolled over laughing
Solid presentation. Love it.
What a spectacular presentation
The arbitrary weaponization of the word misogynist at the end was the most beautiful, modern thing.
Hey Bailey, I’m still waiting on opening up my eyes on the exercise, when do I get to see?
Really loved that closing point
The amount of comedy you pull of from so little is astonishing
You make great videos bro, please continue
I could not put it into words better bailey fantastic job but I believe you should put a cool theme as the background of your next power point presentation
truly earth shattering stuff here but will go under the radar
This is my favorite youtube channel. It has recently surpassed that crappy, know-it-all Foolish Baseball channel.
I believe it's annoying what has happened with Jeter because it's a subconscious recognition of how the media hyping something that benefits them SUCKS.
You’re right, literally nobody thought these things 5-8 years ago
Remember when defensive metrics didn’t matter and weren’t reliable until Derek Jeter was a near unanimous HoF vote?
Yeah right
Somewhere this almost became a Barry Larkin video. I am ashamed I underrated him so much! (Great video by the way, first time seeing this guy and almost exited the video but was funny/ridiculous at times but brought it all home with a real compelling argument that I thought was almost impossible at the beginning.)
This is the best baseball video I've ever seen
I need to meet the 5 percent of writers who didn’t think Ruth should’ve been in the hall
Bruh that ending 🔥🔥🔥
Oml guys Derek Jeter is more famous than Isiah Kiner-Falefa. That is so crasy.
This is the most fairly un-nonbiased video and I absolutely 💯 agree with absolutely everything
I love this!
Very nice take on the Jeter debate.....Very sensible....
Camp 3: You are a Red Sox fan
You say Derek Jeter is bad, you know Derek Jeter is good. Big Papi is the greatest most famous baseball player in the world ask anybody*
*in Boston
Yo, I don’t watch baseball, but you’re so fuckin funny, I can’t wait to see more of these
You should make a video for the MVP debate this season
Best positive masculinity message, everyone else is underrated. Bring others up.
that closing line was perfect LMAO
my conclusion: Derek Jeter is... a baseball player. Controversial, I know.
This is what we all needed
I can relate to being both the nerd on the internet and Joey from the boogie down, lol
I agree, my life is now changed