This is a total failure on CONMEBOL. They wanted to control the event, pretty much ignored best practices and created a dangerous situation for fans. Hard Rock Stadium literally gave them plans for how to create perimeters around Hard Rock for this event and CONMEBOL basically threw them in the garbage. This isn't a US problem, this is a CONMEBOL problem.
This happened in the US, its an awful look. If the US gave all the reigns to conmebol(which is most likely bs and a blame game) then they are just as responsible. How could they expect a federation to come from outside and organize anything well? Regardless a South American tournament should not be held in the US it was all corruption
CONMEBOL definitely needs to bear the brunt of this debacle, but dont be mistaken USSF has some degree of culpability as a co-host. They are to sign off on the CONMEBOL plan. Also, the relevant law enforcement and municipal agencies have requirements for events based on several factors, such as crowd size. Clearly there wasn't enough security. Failures all the was around, from CONMEBOL on down.
Of course its also a US Problem if US soccer officials and US Authorities give all responsibility as a host nation away to CONMEBOL. You are a the host of an international tournament. Police looked like they go on a fishing trip. They are not prepared to face international football fans. Its not MLS or super bowl.
How about blaming THE FANS WHO DID THIS CRAP? You know, 'personal responsibility', 'the difference between right and wrong', 'idiot should have known better', dumb stuff like that....
The venue didn't host any viewing parties outside or nearby, didn't hold off on selling portions of sections until day of, didn't bring extra security, didn't open their gates earlier to better-improve the traffic flow, and didn't offer additional ways to enjoy the game in large settings----all while arguably millions of Latinos are trying to watch the game in a congested region of Florida.
@@DIAC1987 Let's ditch the race card in this. It absolutely doesn't matter who was doing this crap. Color, culture, advocacy and all that stuff is secondary to the point. The people who rushed the gate were trying to get in free. They figured that if enough of them got in that stadium security couldn't or wouldn't evict them all. AND they figured that they would steal [yes, STEAL] seats from the people who actually bought tickets. That shit's wrong no matter who you are or where you're from. Don't mistake me here. The venue made mistakes. That's obviously true. But bum rushing the gates to try and see the game free was a crime and those who did it bear the primary responsibility. The venue doesn't owe a Goddamn thing to victims who didn't have a valid ticket.
A Venue that has hosted high profile global events with little to no hiccup, now people are questioning the city. Are you kidding me? Why don't we talk about the UNRULY FANS and CONMEBOL for being greedy and did not want to spend money for a better Tournament? This is an absolute disgrace.
This wasn't even so much a problem at the 2016 tournament, when the US soccer federation controlled every aspect of the proceedings outside the game itself, which is not what happened with this version, as CONMEBOL controlled those aspects, despite the US being the hosts and knowing what to do, with each stadium hosting giant events like this on the regular (especially those Taylor Swift concerts, too)
If we take the previous game between Colombia and Uruguay into consideration, where Uruguayan players had to protect their families, it's more like that the Colombia fans can't behave themselves. Argentinian fans went to Qatar in great numbers without any problems. It says a lot about how Colombians are behaving in general. Surely CONMEBOL is also at fault for not having the final of the Copa America in a stadium with a bigger capacity, a lack of improve security given the previous behavior of Colombian fans in the game against Uruguay and the lack of better Logistics in place to prevent fans without a ticket getting so close to the stadium.
Because it happened in Miami and in that stadium (and that uneventful past events are not the point)... It's not good enough for the stadium to say, we gave the organizers blueprints and they turned them down. If that is the case then don't accept the event. Yes on some videos you see some unruly fans but on many other videos you see a stadium that was not prepared for this event.... Corraling thousands of fans into a fenced in area and causing a pileup. Too easy to say that Conmebol was the organizer. The venue owners also have some liability as do local officials. I am assuming that in Miami as in other locations around the world for an event of this size you get a permit and that your security arrangements are vetted (since you do have law enforcement there). there are videos where security is trying to hold back barriers / fencing not of people without tickets but people being crushed. so yes that causes a lot of issues on the fact they seemed unprepared
@@shanghaidiscovery2664 Its not easy, its the truth. The organizer controls the event. They decided to cut corners and they fucked it up not just in Miami, but every stadium site. Also CONMEBOL paid USFF 10 million to have control over the organization of the tournament, so they had no say or control over what happened.
This is football , the only sport that drives people crazy around the world . It's not just the Conmebol. This country is not ready to host a World Cup. They don't have the correct staff nor organization.
In South America a football match with 50,000 people will have at least a 1000 Policemen. Here you had about 70,000 people in a Copa America final. Someone from the South American Press said that the people in charge of the security were laughing when they were told "you'll need 1000 policemen" and ended up assigning only about 500.
@@mtadams2009 - Well, it was the United States' idea not mine. That was the whole reason for the FIFAgate, it wasn't to stop corruption. Corruption is still going but now handled by different people, if you know what I mean. The plan was to hold many football tournaments for very big profits and there are many more tournaments coming besides the 2026 World Cup. Enjoy!
@@mtadams2009 if the ticket is over a $1K and they leave areas where people can get in for free . Then idiot is to think people won’t take advantage of that. That’s why you prepare and not let ppl without ticket come close from the stadium . Yes you re not prepared to host this nor the World Cup . People can die if they let the USA host that magnitude of events. Rusia , France and Qatar did very good job hosting the last WCs but they re in a different level . You will never see this careless mess in Rusia.
Yes and no, in the sense that they were ill-prepared for the level of behaviour displayed by the fans. American Sport culture is completely different, battles are waged on the pitch, not amongst the fans, that is not only frowned upon, but also simply not tolerated. They are simply not used to people showing up without a ticket, let alone pushing to get in, so yes, they were unprepared, but it was the fans, and I could easily single out somebody, who behaved like animals and just like it happened for the English supporters decades ago, after the Hysel Stadium tragedy, CONMEBOL should hang a several years ban on those fans or are we waiting for something to happen and somebody to die? Instead, they are looking to punish Bielsa or those players who behaved like human beings and try to defend their families, instead they booked a 30-minutes, half-time concert, totally disrespecting the game and the players. They are clowns but dangerous ones.
I lived in Colombia for 10 years. A different level of brash lawlessness and disrespect and violent disobedience. Of course not everyone but enough people to ruin it for the rest.
Only NFL games have a comparable attendance. But for whatever reason, Americans seem to respect a lot more those who bought the tickets and have the right to be in the stadium.
As a person who knows someone who was on scene , as this was happening. 90% of the crowd was Colombian. Trying to rush the stadium to enter without tickets. Perhaps acceptable in Bucaramanga , Bogota , even Cali. Not acceptable here. The message needs to be driven home , pre-2026. This could've been a (preventable) disaster. 3rd-world tier behavior should never be tolerated.
No normal football behaviour around the world. You will see this in Europe on a regular basis are you classifying, Germany, England, The Netherlands as third world countries? Just go look up Football Ultras and you will see what football is really like. The US got off lightly last time because England did not qualify and if they don't heed the warning from the weekend things could get very nasty. Oh and I'm English.
The saddest part is that Colombian Soccer team played some of its best futbol since 2014 and it’s gonna be overshadowed by this. Most of the Colombian fans doing that were American natives. Which makes it even worse. Embarrassing end to a beautiful tournament by the players and it’s not fair to them.
Indeed. But the question still needs to be asked why wasn't there enough security on hand to prevent this from happening in the first place. This has happened at other soccer matches like the euro final at Wembley and 2021 in London. Why were those lessons learned is also an important point.
what's embarassing is how the US couldnt handle a soccer match. Everywhere in the world they host futbol matches and they dont have this chaos. even AFRICA and the MIDDLE EAST didn't have multiple instances of fights, astroturf that wasn't even patched up. Those BS american excuses as to why you guys FAILED don't really work when the rest of the world can competently host a match.
I was working that night at the stadium.😢 It was truly something crazy to witness. That damaged escalator is located in the Lobby near the club where I work. Totally unimaginable!
Fans created a dangerous environment for fans. The fans didn't respect anything. Those countries should have to pay for damages and refund tickets. Ridiculous. Those fan bases behaved like children.
I was the only international Event of the Month !!!!. All Europe, All America (that is why is called Copa America) Asia, Africa, the Hole World was watching it.
This is absolutely disgraceful! Yes, Conmebol or coruptobol wears a lot of responsibility here but those people ought to be ashamed of themselves! They embarrassed themselves and their country! I hope the US puts the right measures in place before the world cup to address this! This is unsafe for families!
As someone whose family is from South America let me tell you it’s a different culture. Maybe in Europe too, I don’t know. I’ve been to so many stadiums in the US for other sports and this never happens. But the ONE time I saw a soccer match (Ecuador vs Mexico) at Metlife people were pushing forward like they wanted to bring walls down. I had to yell at people behind me, strangers just shoving me forward. Security had to bring German Shepards across the fence to keep us in order. What an embarrassment. This is EVERYONE’S fault and I’m not surprised.
I think it's spiritually an Idol in these countries, and there is literally an evil spirit driving a lot of those fans. It's not far off in America, but America still somewhat civilized in its sports, but it could go more that way in America too if things get out of hand.
@@Jbird-sx4zk Colombia and Argentina are located in the the American continent, in the south of the continent (they re not floating on the air). Therefore they are Americans from the South of America, or South Americans , same thing .
The USA probably holds more high-profile, high-attendance sporting events every year than all of South America combined, and we do so without massive safety issues. We’ve hosted a men’s and women’s World Cup without issue. We’ve hosted Copa America before, without issue. The Olympics. Super Bowls. 81 baseball games at every baseball stadium every year. Taylor Swift concerts. Etc etc etc. Not to mention, we already have security measures in place for the World Cup in a few years, including for Hard Rock, and this is all documented that they are multi-tiered and locked down. This is fully on CONMEBOL.
I live in S. Florida. While Florida man is a maniac, all the international folks are rude as F and don't want to pay for anything. Is what it is, but lets blame the stadium.
What is there to pay when there weren't any tickets available for a while? And the scalpers were charging thousands of dollars per ticket. How is that okay and fair?
@@DIAC1987 - It isn't. Tickets get sold out for big events everywhere. Tickets for Taylor Swift, Beyonce, BTS, etc. are outrageously priced and many fans cannot afford to attend. But they don't just show up to the stadium and break in. Not understanding your logic.
I am Colombian born and yes a lot had to do with the organization but I am ashamed for these Colombian fans, that was delinquent mob behavior!, shame on those parents that show their kids that jumping off a fence unauthorized is ok! If anything else this was an opportunity to show people that Colombians are good despite the irresponsibility of the organizers but what do we do? Show the world we are still a third world country always trying to get ahead without concern of others, it’s so upsetting and embarrassing. I am always pointing this out to Colombians and for that I always get backlash, but here we show again what we are really made of. Very very sad
The blame is on the fans, who will do anything to gain entry to the stadium, with or without tickets and on the authorities who should take all necessary steps to thwart them. Rich Eisen correctly identifies multiple tickets checks, well away from the ground, as being essential. This was the problem at Wembley in 2021 for the Euro final and at Stade de France in 2022 for the Champions League final. Football authorities have got to wake up as there could so easily have been numerous casualties.
I worked for the company(CSC) for the word series and the difference is the fans. I was told by multiple supervisors (Hispanic) that Hispanic fans will do whatever they can get away with.
@@Courtjowhite if the ticket is over a $1K and they leave areas where people can get in for free . Then idiot is to think people won’t take advantage of that. That’s why you prepare and not let ppl without ticket close from the stadium . The checkpoints needed to be away from the stadium not in the door. Just common sense . They let 7k people get in without tickets .
There was supposed to be a Fanfest area where the fans without tickets were going, but that was canceled. Doesn't make it right to try to get in without tickets but the Fanfest would have prevented this.
@@voiceofreason2674 - Voice of reason? Really?? … because your infrastructure is limited to a parking lot next to the stadium. How to keep people entertained if there are no access to bathrooms, food and beverages in a hot environment in nowhere land? That’s the same way you treat refugees at your borders - to keep them away. During the EURO 2024 you had fan fest's everywhere, and those were managed the same way as the games themself. You deal with the greatest sport on this planet, not with a WorldChampionship look-alike egg ball kicking "Super Bowl".
But they want to suspend the uruguayn players that had to jump to the grades to protect their parents and kids, including babies from the same kind of people...
Brother, the fight was between two fans not at all involving the families. They were in a different section next to the family section. People decided to start moving the families down to the field in case anything happened. The Uruguay players jumped to the stands and started fights with the fans because they had no clue wtf was going on. It's on them. Hell, Nunez, the one fist fighting didn't even have his family up there. They had been on the field, safer and he still went up there to fist fight random fans.
Rich- references Die Hard Chris- What? It's like Tom Cruise in like Mission Impossible TJ- starts humming the Mission: Impossible theme Think you missed a step...You really didn't hear Brockman say Tom Cruise?
You have to separate the tailgate area from the entry area. A fence falls down at a SuperBowl stadium and hundreds of tailgaters without tickets will enter the stadium.
I watched a vlog by Tactical Manager a prominent soccer UA-camr about it… zero security… not a single cop in the whole video he’s just locked out the whole time and finally just goes home even though he had tickets.
Look, us simple. Over 100 years of Copa America, and this NEVER happened. The 3 and 4 rings of entrance it's an standards in all big league of football worldwide, not only big events like that. The organisation is held between Conmebol requirements and the country hosting the event capabilities. If the country can't meet this requirements it can't host it. If don't deliver it get penalty. Security is one of those. Hard Rock Stadium OR USA football association didn't do what every other host did before them. So, ITS THEIR FAULT. And Hard Rock Stadium OR USA football association must be held responsible and punished.
You are talking about superbowl experience. Did you noticed the crowd when they arrived to the hotel? This is not just a soccer game. This is NOT a superbowl experience. This is typical for soccer.
It’s silly to compare super ball or soccer game especially Copa America. The passion and craziness is a part of the soccer culture and what makes it the greatest sport in the world.
Argentina is the Word Champion of Soccer, Messi the best player in the World. That is why if it is typical of soccer as you say it should have been better organized. I Qatar this did not happen
See the problem is Americans compare a Major Continental Final between two rival nations, that only happens once every 4 years to just an annual Superbowl in the local league.
Bad fan behavior is a problem in a lot of sports but the lack of security and the mess in the organization is on the hosts (venues/cities) and organizers. I think they don't know the attention and mass expectation a big soccer tournament brings so they dismiss the level of organization and the amount of security needed, when in reality it needs as much if not more security than the SB. They better figure it out because the magnitude of a Worl Cup is like 10 times the SB and fans go absolutely CRAZY for it , Copa America is child's play in comparison.
Comparing the Super Bowl to the Copa America final just goes to show the level of ignorance involved by US organizations. It's not surprising this happened if you have been paying attention and FIFA needs to ensure they don't abdicate security to "the locals" when the World Cup arrives in the US in June 2026.
National teams playing each other in the final of a once in 4 years soccer tournament is emotionally so much bigger than any football game. And thats me, a polite German, saying that. Have you ever seen South American crowds ? No surprise at all for anyone who ever watched it.
So to add to the hundreds of opinions out there saying this, if this is all apparently known by so many people, why in the world did they not prepare for it like other lesser events do? It was embarrassing for both nations. Why go to a game and trash an escalator… Absolutely ridiculous.
Remind me of the deadhead back in the 80s - one guy jumps over the wall at Giant Stadium and gets surrounded by security-followed by an unstoppable flood of merry pranksters.
I know friends that went to the 1986 World Series at Shea Stadium without a ticket. Just hand a $100 bill to the turnstile ticket taker. I chose to buy a leather jacket instead... shoulda went to the game! I ended up get mugged for my jacket at 17 years old. You can get away with this anymore.
I think the comparison between the Super Bowl and a major international soccer final is incorrect. The Super Bowl is huge for the U.S. but international soccer tournaments are bigger and more intense. The Hard Rock stadium folks were not ready for this
Know Colombians and Argentinians and they are passionate about their national teams to the point they are willing to risk a lot to see them play…. Also didn’t help that it was in Miami where majority of Colombians and Argentinian immigrants live in US
Well not every Colombian that lives in Miami went to see the finals there were Colombians who are living in nyc, Houston or Boston that travel to Miami to attend the final
Back in February of this year I went to MetLife Stadium for the NHL Stadium Series game between the New York Rangers and the New York Islanders. I was checked in by security to enter the fan fest outside of the stadium, I was checked in entering the stadium and checked to go to the club seat section since that's where I was seated at for the entire game Stadium security personnel at MetLife Stadium did their job to ensure fans enjoy the game in a safe manner And since it's one of the stadiums for the World Cup and home to the World Cup Final, I do hope FIFA will do everything it takes to make sure that it's a safe environment for fans to enjoy
Sad to blame the stadium staff & security. Cannot justify ignorance. That’s like saying it’s ok to be invited to a party @ someone’s house & you literally destroyed it because things didn’t go your way… at someone else’s house. They had 800+ officers.
This is exactly why the USA shouldnt hold these massive international football tournaments, cuz they dont understand it and what the security measures it requires. Unbelievable, this was a copa final! Its a lot bigger than a superbowl, theyre not ready for a world cup which much bigger than a copa or a euro.
@@akexcarbajal1715The 94 world cup is the most profitable world cup in history. Literally exhibition games featuring big clubs sell out no problem… This is simply not true. MLS is weak, not football in America. Fifa knows how to run tourneys not comnebol. comnebol is responsible for poor organization. USA has hosted many successful football matches and large events, you cant just ignore history.
It was Conmebol who organized it. This falls more on them than anyone. Same with the Uruguay and Colombia match. They failed by trying to cut corners. Ignored advice from Hard Rock Stadium staff.
Fan behaviour. Disregarding their nationality or the team they were supporting, there is a clear lack of education, culture, mindset about behaviour in public places, events, a sickening feeling of entitlement from playing against the rules. You name it. It's simply disgraceful. Needless to say, as a Colombian, I feel embarrassed of what these people did. They do not represent us.
The officials undestimated the type of event this would be. Instead of treating it like an international championship match, it was treated like some sort of casual friendly. However, that's no excuse for some of these peoples behavior. They ruined family and kid's moods.
Looking at videos, it appears the fans knew this would work. SoCal has hosted many international Latin American soccer games with very passionate fans and nothing like this happened. People don't try this stuff because they know it'll get shut down. It's all like the fans knew the organizer wouldn't have the place secured properly.
Don’t host an event if you don’t understand the sport or fanbase, other countries know this and take these precautions, when the Super Bowl is hosted the security understand what to expect and don’t think twice about rival fans mixing. Soccer world is NOT the same!
you have no idea what your talking about you just want to say words. you cant blame america for how conmebol set things up. to set up a superbowl like security it costs money that conmebol couldnt afford or chose not to purchase. so they had a repeat oof the eurpo final at wembley
The same company which provides security staffing at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte for the post-match fiasco also provides security at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami, for what that's worth. Somehow, I don't think FIFA is going to want to work with that company in two years time, because that's not exactly going to exude confidence that security will be airtight in 2026.
@@LargeDude2023 None of those really compare to soccer...I don't know how much clearer it needs to be than what just went down. It's crazy that America is trying to play it so cool as high horse "better than you" as if Trump didn't get shot at.
In a Conmebol's statement, they are blaming Hard Rock Stadium and local authorities for the problems at the final game. They indicate that they "recommended to these authorities the procedures proven in events of this magnitude, which were NOT taken into account". The word not actually appears in uppercase in the statement. I assume that the proven procedures alluded to refer to establishing security areas around the stadium as Rich pointed out. All this deserves an investigation to determine responsibilities.
I’m from the UK and unfortunately this isn’t uncommon in “soccer”, especially South American soccer. Seems like every game the South American teams play there’s fighting and rioting and police involvement. Fans are so passionate that they’ll pay thousands of dollars to get to the US and take their chances on trying to break in and maybe see their country win a trophy. Thats football ⚽️
People getting bent over the SB comparison are missing the point. He's saying the security of the event didn't match the moment. The same would have been the case if the Euro final organizers treated it like an October matchup of Everton and Crystal Palace.
The world baseball championship took place in Miami 2022 I believe. Involving teams from all over the world. An event that last several days and not just one. Not a problem. This falls on the fans imo
Yeah, you can’t the NFL to soccer. Where in soccer when 2 players bump into each other and fall down and start acting like they both just got shot. 🤣 Yeah, you can’t compare them.
@@itsgreat7150 I feel sorry for you, you'll never understand. Maradona is a great example of the beauty of the sport. From a nation that was just coming out of a military dictatorship which ruined the economy of Argentina. Born into poverty, malnourished at a young age. Still managed to take on big teams in Europe. winning the world cup. mind you the man was only 5'5. Now let's talk about American football where money can buy anything.....
@@itsgreat7150 Dude, they don't wear pads all over their body like in American Football. If they bump into each other, it's going to hurt a whole lot more. How does that not register with you? Nobody outside of the U.S. cares or will ever care about American Football. Deal with it.
except every single person has yet to suggest that the security do anything different that they dont already do at intense rivalry games at the very stadium the copa final was at. so please stop being ignorant for you do not know what you are saying. conmebol chose to not pay for high security and this is the result.
It happen at the champions league final and it was the “local youth “ the problem is mass immigration from third world countries turning first world countries into cesspools.
So we’re blaming the venue for people acting like idiots? How about we hold people accountable for their actions. This isn’t a 3rd world country so they need to stop acting like they are in one.
As someone whose family is from South America let me tell you it’s a different culture. Maybe in Europe too, I don’t know. I’ve been to so many stadiums in the US for other sports and this never happens. But the ONE time I saw a soccer match (Ecuador vs Mexico) at Metlife people were pushing forward like they wanted to bring walls down. I had to yell at people behind me, strangers just shoving me forward. Security had to bring German Shepards across the fence to keep us in order. And the escalator stopped working because of so many people on it. What an embarrassment. This is EVERYONE’S fault and I’m not surprised.
Ticket master cancelled and resold tickets. So there were a lot of people with the flight and hotel paid. They had to go anyway and try to buy a ticket there.
This is a total failure on CONMEBOL. They wanted to control the event, pretty much ignored best practices and created a dangerous situation for fans. Hard Rock Stadium literally gave them plans for how to create perimeters around Hard Rock for this event and CONMEBOL basically threw them in the garbage. This isn't a US problem, this is a CONMEBOL problem.
This happened in the US, its an awful look. If the US gave all the reigns to conmebol(which is most likely bs and a blame game) then they are just as responsible. How could they expect a federation to come from outside and organize anything well? Regardless a South American tournament should not be held in the US it was all corruption
The u.s soccer federation is also part of this they didn’t not anticipate the final will be chaotic
@@Frankieefootballmundialthey didn’t have control of the event, not on them CONMEBOL fucked it up
CONMEBOL definitely needs to bear the brunt of this debacle, but dont be mistaken USSF has some degree of culpability as a co-host. They are to sign off on the CONMEBOL plan. Also, the relevant law enforcement and municipal agencies have requirements for events based on several factors, such as crowd size. Clearly there wasn't enough security. Failures all the was around, from CONMEBOL on down.
Of course its also a US Problem if US soccer officials and US Authorities give all responsibility as a host nation away to CONMEBOL. You are a the host of an international tournament. Police looked like they go on a fishing trip. They are not prepared to face international football fans. Its not MLS or super bowl.
The president of the Colombian Soccer Federation (age 71) and his son were arrested for assaulting a guard.
Colombian soccer fans detest the suits and administration because of how greedy they are. Nobody feels bad for both of them.
Because the security wouldn't let them down on the field with their team 😤😤
*football
Where there’s smoke there is fire. This was a forest fire
@@alexisjaviersanchez2244 that makes it OK? Nice logic, now I understand many things.
How about blaming THE FANS WHO DID THIS CRAP? You know, 'personal responsibility', 'the difference between right and wrong', 'idiot should have known better', dumb stuff like that....
The venue didn't host any viewing parties outside or nearby, didn't hold off on selling portions of sections until day of, didn't bring extra security, didn't open their gates earlier to better-improve the traffic flow, and didn't offer additional ways to enjoy the game in large settings----all while arguably millions of Latinos are trying to watch the game in a congested region of Florida.
@@DIAC1987 Let's ditch the race card in this. It absolutely doesn't matter who was doing this crap. Color, culture, advocacy and all that stuff is secondary to the point.
The people who rushed the gate were trying to get in free. They figured that if enough of them got in that stadium security couldn't or wouldn't evict them all. AND they figured that they would steal [yes, STEAL] seats from the people who actually bought tickets.
That shit's wrong no matter who you are or where you're from.
Don't mistake me here. The venue made mistakes. That's obviously true. But bum rushing the gates to try and see the game free was a crime and those who did it bear the primary responsibility. The venue doesn't owe a Goddamn thing to victims who didn't have a valid ticket.
Brother what does that have to do with people showing up and destroying the stadium???
@@louisrodriguez5085 My point exactly.
And what does being Latino or Hispanic have to do with it as well?
@@DIAC1987 'you didn't put up a tv outside, therefore how can you blame people for stampeding the gates?' lmao what
A Venue that has hosted high profile global events with little to no hiccup, now people are questioning the city. Are you kidding me? Why don't we talk about the UNRULY FANS and CONMEBOL for being greedy and did not want to spend money for a better Tournament? This is an absolute disgrace.
This wasn't even so much a problem at the 2016 tournament, when the US soccer federation controlled every aspect of the proceedings outside the game itself, which is not what happened with this version, as CONMEBOL controlled those aspects, despite the US being the hosts and knowing what to do, with each stadium hosting giant events like this on the regular (especially those Taylor Swift concerts, too)
If we take the previous game between Colombia and Uruguay into consideration, where Uruguayan players had to protect their families, it's more like that the Colombia fans can't behave themselves.
Argentinian fans went to Qatar in great numbers without any problems.
It says a lot about how Colombians are behaving in general.
Surely CONMEBOL is also at fault for not having the final of the Copa America in a stadium with a bigger capacity, a lack of improve security given the previous behavior of Colombian fans in the game against Uruguay and the lack of better Logistics in place to prevent fans without a ticket getting so close to the stadium.
Because it happened in Miami and in that stadium (and that uneventful past events are not the point)... It's not good enough for the stadium to say, we gave the organizers blueprints and they turned them down. If that is the case then don't accept the event. Yes on some videos you see some unruly fans but on many other videos you see a stadium that was not prepared for this event.... Corraling thousands of fans into a fenced in area and causing a pileup. Too easy to say that Conmebol was the organizer. The venue owners also have some liability as do local officials. I am assuming that in Miami as in other locations around the world for an event of this size you get a permit and that your security arrangements are vetted (since you do have law enforcement there). there are videos where security is trying to hold back barriers / fencing not of people without tickets but people being crushed. so yes that causes a lot of issues on the fact they seemed unprepared
@@shanghaidiscovery2664 Its not easy, its the truth. The organizer controls the event. They decided to cut corners and they fucked it up not just in Miami, but every stadium site. Also CONMEBOL paid USFF 10 million to have control over the organization of the tournament, so they had no say or control over what happened.
This is football , the only sport that drives people crazy around the world . It's not just the Conmebol. This country is not ready to host a World Cup. They don't have the correct staff nor organization.
Thanks for crediting Men in Blazers for the vent video, thank you very much for giving them credit for the video I recorded.
In South America a football match with 50,000 people will have at least a 1000 Policemen. Here you had about 70,000 people in a Copa America final. Someone from the South American Press said that the people in charge of the security were laughing when they were told "you'll need 1000 policemen" and ended up assigning only about 500.
The question is why do these fans behave so poorly? What the F is wrong with them? I say don’t host this again.
@@mtadams2009 - Well, it was the United States' idea not mine. That was the whole reason for the FIFAgate, it wasn't to stop corruption. Corruption is still going but now handled by different people, if you know what I mean. The plan was to hold many football tournaments for very big profits and there are many more tournaments coming besides the 2026 World Cup. Enjoy!
@@AW-jz5uy Indeed, sad but true.
@@mtadams2009 if the ticket is over a $1K and they leave areas where people can get in for free . Then idiot is to think people won’t take advantage of that. That’s why you prepare and not let ppl without ticket come close from the stadium . Yes you re not prepared to host this nor the World Cup . People can die if they let the USA host that magnitude of events. Rusia , France and Qatar did very good job hosting the last WCs but they re in a different level . You will never see this careless mess in Rusia.
BIELSA WAS RIGHT, “THIS ORGANIZATION WAS A SHAME “
Yes and no, in the sense that they were ill-prepared for the level of behaviour displayed by the fans. American Sport culture is completely different, battles are waged on the pitch, not amongst the fans, that is not only frowned upon, but also simply not tolerated. They are simply not used to people showing up without a ticket, let alone pushing to get in, so yes, they were unprepared, but it was the fans, and I could easily single out somebody, who behaved like animals and just like it happened for the English supporters decades ago, after the Hysel Stadium tragedy, CONMEBOL should hang a several years ban on those fans or are we waiting for something to happen and somebody to die? Instead, they are looking to punish Bielsa or those players who behaved like human beings and try to defend their families, instead they booked a 30-minutes, half-time concert, totally disrespecting the game and the players. They are clowns but dangerous ones.
I lived in Colombia for 10 years. A different level of brash lawlessness and disrespect and violent disobedience. Of course not everyone but enough people to ruin it for the rest.
How many of them are coming over the southern border?
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjborder has nothing to do with it. They are probably visiting and came by plane ✈️
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjfrom Colombia? Not many
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjjust heard everyone who has a visa has been identified and will have their visa revoked
I'm from Panamá and I feel terrible. Im not even on the state... but I feel the Colombian's shame as mine. 😢
I’ve worked as an usher and work in a sports stadium this angers me this was poorly prepared soccer games are the ones I fear
Only NFL games have a comparable attendance. But for whatever reason, Americans seem to respect a lot more those who bought the tickets and have the right to be in the stadium.
Calling these people animals is an insult to animals. They’re beyond that.
As a person who knows someone who was on scene , as this was happening.
90% of the crowd was Colombian. Trying to rush the stadium to enter without tickets.
Perhaps acceptable in Bucaramanga , Bogota , even Cali. Not acceptable here. The message needs to be driven home , pre-2026. This could've been a (preventable) disaster. 3rd-world tier behavior should never be tolerated.
💯 thank you for sharing! Have an awesome day ✌️
Try living in Florida. The audacity and lack of consideration from these people is outrageous. Way out of control
No normal football behaviour around the world. You will see this in Europe on a regular basis are you classifying, Germany, England, The Netherlands as third world countries? Just go look up Football Ultras and you will see what football is really like. The US got off lightly last time because England did not qualify and if they don't heed the warning from the weekend things could get very nasty. Oh and I'm English.
Difficult to call this 3rd- world tier behavior while we see which behavior is happening in the USA day after day.
The saddest part is that Colombian Soccer team played some of its best futbol since 2014 and it’s gonna be overshadowed by this. Most of the Colombian fans doing that were American natives. Which makes it even worse. Embarrassing end to a beautiful tournament by the players and it’s not fair to them.
Who is to blame? How about the people who tried to break into the stadium without tickets and climb through vents to get in?
Indeed. But the question still needs to be asked why wasn't there enough security on hand to prevent this from happening in the first place. This has happened at other soccer matches like the euro final at Wembley and 2021 in London. Why were those lessons learned is also an important point.
In clown world you aren’t allowed to acknowledge these things. They don’t care about walls, gates, fences, or borders.
Really? Well DUH.
I felt so embarrassed! I'm not from Colombia or Argentina! This was an embarrassing situation. Acting like animals
That is How they do it From Mexico Central america and all the way To the south for them it is normal
@alexperez6258 Mexico and Central America??? LMFAO. It's South America only.
English fans are 100x worse. Look up Heysel and Hillsborough
what's embarassing is how the US couldnt handle a soccer match. Everywhere in the world they host futbol matches and they dont have this chaos. even AFRICA and the MIDDLE EAST didn't have multiple instances of fights, astroturf that wasn't even patched up. Those BS american excuses as to why you guys FAILED don't really work when the rest of the world can competently host a match.
@@Eraweb-u3pyeah….how bout not acting like Fkn children
I was working that night at the stadium.😢 It was truly something crazy to witness. That damaged escalator is located in the Lobby near the club where I work. Totally unimaginable!
Fans created a dangerous environment for fans. The fans didn't respect anything. Those countries should have to pay for damages and refund tickets. Ridiculous. Those fan bases behaved like children.
Imagine if you will that those fans are taking over your entire state. That’s what it’s like living in Florida
I'll second that, Phays!
When I was a child we were more civilized...
They made a day of soccer far more entertaining then it had any business being.
Not the only event this weekend where security failed
I was the only international Event of the Month !!!!. All Europe, All America (that is why is called Copa America) Asia, Africa, the Hole World was watching it.
Indeed, shameful.
This is absolutely disgraceful! Yes, Conmebol or coruptobol wears a lot of responsibility here but those people ought to be ashamed of themselves! They embarrassed themselves and their country! I hope the US puts the right measures in place before the world cup to address this! This is unsafe for families!
if fifa will pay for it they already have the literal setup for ticket checking a mile out for super bowls. even at the hard rock.
As someone whose family is from South America let me tell you it’s a different culture. Maybe in Europe too, I don’t know. I’ve been to so many stadiums in the US for other sports and this never happens. But the ONE time I saw a soccer match (Ecuador vs Mexico) at Metlife people were pushing forward like they wanted to bring walls down. I had to yell at people behind me, strangers just shoving me forward. Security had to bring German Shepards across the fence to keep us in order. What an embarrassment. This is EVERYONE’S fault and I’m not surprised.
I think it's spiritually an Idol in these countries, and there is literally an evil spirit driving a lot of those fans. It's not far off in America, but America still somewhat civilized in its sports, but it could go more that way in America too if things get out of hand.
@@Jbird-sx4zk Colombia and Argentina are located in the the American continent, in the south of the continent (they re not floating on the air). Therefore they are Americans from the South of America, or South Americans , same thing .
They behave like if the U.S. owes it to them.
@@susanafernandez4164there are also Central Americans Not just North or south
@@alexperez6258 yes I know, I am a central american in fact
It was not generic "fans," it was COLOMBIANS. But you can't say that, I guess.
No, definitely can't state the obvious. We can dance around everything under the sun, but don't dare point out the obvious.
@@ThisManTriggeredMe and @bubba2229, you both are spot on!
I mean, it’s pretty obvious that gates, walls, and rulers mean nothing to these people. We’ve been seeing this for years at the border
Yes, they all were dressed the same! What an embarrassing situation for the many Colombian upright citizens!
Please note that you define a whole nation and the those near the stadium were drunk.
The USA probably holds more high-profile, high-attendance sporting events every year than all of South America combined, and we do so without massive safety issues. We’ve hosted a men’s and women’s World Cup without issue. We’ve hosted Copa America before, without issue. The Olympics. Super Bowls. 81 baseball games at every baseball stadium every year. Taylor Swift concerts. Etc etc etc.
Not to mention, we already have security measures in place for the World Cup in a few years, including for Hard Rock, and this is all documented that they are multi-tiered and locked down.
This is fully on CONMEBOL.
agreed , but every once in a while stuff like this or that Travis Scott Astroworld nightmare happens....
the Argentines were most prudent
but the colombians behaved terribly
this was a bad organization
Because Argentinians don’t migrate illegally
They do they broke @@juancolina7654
Same thing happened at Wembley Stadium in 2021 for the England vs Italy Euro Final
Not to this level
@@LetsBeHonestImAPratgo watch the documentary. It was worse
@@aris_mendez not even close. Netflix documentation are not a good source.
I live in S. Florida. While Florida man is a maniac, all the international folks are rude as F and don't want to pay for anything. Is what it is, but lets blame the stadium.
and the security
What is there to pay when there weren't any tickets available for a while? And the scalpers were charging thousands of dollars per ticket. How is that okay and fair?
@@DIAC1987 - It isn't. Tickets get sold out for big events everywhere. Tickets for Taylor Swift, Beyonce, BTS, etc. are outrageously priced and many fans cannot afford to attend. But they don't just show up to the stadium and break in. Not understanding your logic.
@@deettekearns9092 lol someone doesn't know the history of soccer, especially in Europe.
@@DIAC1987 - You are correct. Just commenting on what you wrote.
I am Colombian born and yes a lot had to do with the organization but I am ashamed for these Colombian fans, that was delinquent mob behavior!, shame on those parents that show their kids that jumping off a fence unauthorized is ok! If anything else this was an opportunity to show people that Colombians are good despite the irresponsibility of the organizers but what do we do? Show the world we are still a third world country always trying to get ahead without concern of others, it’s so upsetting and embarrassing. I am always pointing this out to Colombians and for that I always get backlash, but here we show again what we are really made of.
Very very sad
Very frustrated for us the good colombians, who respect the law!!!
The blame is on the fans, who will do anything to gain entry to the stadium, with or without tickets and on the authorities who should take all necessary steps to thwart them. Rich Eisen correctly identifies multiple tickets checks, well away from the ground, as being essential. This was the problem at Wembley in 2021 for the Euro final and at Stade de France in 2022 for the Champions League final. Football authorities have got to wake up as there could so easily have been numerous casualties.
There were no check points or perimeters on Sunday. You could drive to the parking lot without showing your ticket once!! That's stadium security!
Stadium security was organized by conmebol. At their insistence for their event.
I worked for the company(CSC) for the word series and the difference is the fans. I was told by multiple supervisors (Hispanic) that Hispanic fans will do whatever they can get away with.
I can see the Hard Rock from my house. The behavior of these people in general is horrific. They took over our entire city and acted a fool!
Don't host a world cup then, you guys are not ready for it .
@@susanafernandez4164 ready for what? the no deodorant guys to show up and kick a ball?
@@susanafernandez4164is that your solution to a problem? How about our people following guidelines, rules?
@@susanafernandez4164 ready for people to act like idiots ?! Name a place that prepares for that
@@Courtjowhite if the ticket is over a $1K and they leave areas where people can get in for free . Then idiot is to think people won’t take advantage of that. That’s why you prepare and not let ppl without ticket close from the stadium . The checkpoints needed to be away from the stadium not in the door. Just common sense . They let 7k people get in without tickets .
WrestleMania was held there with almost 80,000 fans. There wasn't any problems. Its the fans, not the venue. Same people crossing the border.
There was supposed to be a Fanfest area where the fans without tickets were going, but that was canceled. Doesn't make it right to try to get in without tickets but the Fanfest would have prevented this.
interesting 🤔
Would make sense to have the no tickets events nowhere close to the stadium to help with keeping more fans without tickets around stadium
I keep hearing about "fanfest" where the fans are all cooped up in an area, why cant soccer fans be trusted to have a good time on their own ?
@@voiceofreason2674 - Voice of reason? Really??
… because your infrastructure is limited to a parking lot next to the stadium. How to keep people entertained if there are no access to bathrooms, food and beverages in a hot environment in nowhere land? That’s the same way you treat refugees at your borders - to keep them away.
During the EURO 2024 you had fan fest's everywhere, and those were managed the same way as the games themself. You deal with the greatest sport on this planet, not with a WorldChampionship look-alike egg ball kicking "Super Bowl".
It was cancelled due to the incident with the Uruguay team and again, Colombian fans.
No one wants to say it but I will it was the mostly Colombian fans that where just out of control
That's totally true!! And I'm happy we lost, we didn't deserve to win with these delinquents doing what they did!
But they want to suspend the uruguayn players that had to jump to the grades to protect their parents and kids, including babies from the same kind of people...
Brother, the fight was between two fans not at all involving the families. They were in a different section next to the family section. People decided to start moving the families down to the field in case anything happened. The Uruguay players jumped to the stands and started fights with the fans because they had no clue wtf was going on. It's on them. Hell, Nunez, the one fist fighting didn't even have his family up there. They had been on the field, safer and he still went up there to fist fight random fans.
The fight was started by an older Uruguayan man there’s a video of it.
“What do they speak in Colombia? Colombian?” - Brockman. I’m crying hahaha 😂😂😂
Classic Boston guy
@@officialdeanseda Dude I was dying! 😂
I felt sorry for him.
They speak Mexican , duh
@@stevenhickey326No, man. It's Latin America, so of course they speak Latin. Cogito ergo sum.
Isn't anybody going to talk about having a half time show for a soccer/football match?
Absolute disgrace!! Dont know for sure but I'm thinking they're going to try and do halftime shows at the WC. Trying to "Americanize" the sport. GTFO
Hey! It is America. We didn't get where we are today by following tradition 😂
What exactly was the point of that? I can't blame the Columbian coach for being irate over that needless halftime nonsense.
That halftime show was an utter disgrace. No reason for it and a danger to player injuries.
If it was up to americans greed, they would stop the game every 5 mnts and have commercial breaks
They're used to well-behaved Americans. They weren't prepared for 3rd world behavior
I'm sorry but this is not England, Germany, Argentina, Brazil etc. Soccer Hooliganism has no place in the USA.
“She’s fluent in her hips not lying.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The vent video is not from meninblazers it’s from TacticalManager
Rich - references Die Hard
TJ - starts humming the Mission:Impossible theme
he's kind of useless on this show
both are
TJ is doing mission impossible when Brockman mentioned Tom Cruise, idk what you are nitpicking
Brockman mentioned Tom Cruise in "Mission Impossible," prompting TJ to hum the theme...
Rich- references Die Hard
Chris- What? It's like Tom Cruise in like Mission Impossible
TJ- starts humming the Mission: Impossible theme
Think you missed a step...You really didn't hear Brockman say Tom Cruise?
You have to separate the tailgate area from the entry area.
A fence falls down at a SuperBowl stadium and hundreds of tailgaters without tickets will enter the stadium.
I watched a vlog by Tactical Manager a prominent soccer UA-camr about it… zero security… not a single cop in the whole video he’s just locked out the whole time and finally just goes home even though he had tickets.
Security thought it was an mls game. U.S has to realize that football (soccer) is the biggest sport in the world
I make you 100% correct
Wasn’t CONMEBOL in charge of setting everything up for this?
Well said Rich! Never seen anything like it
You are spot on. It happened 3 years ago at Wembley. Euros final. Netflix has a documentary.
Look, us simple. Over 100 years of Copa America, and this NEVER happened. The 3 and 4 rings of entrance it's an standards in all big league of football worldwide, not only big events like that. The organisation is held between Conmebol requirements and the country hosting the event capabilities. If the country can't meet this requirements it can't host it. If don't deliver it get penalty. Security is one of those. Hard Rock Stadium OR USA football association didn't do what every other host did before them. So, ITS THEIR FAULT. And Hard Rock Stadium OR USA football association must be held responsible and punished.
As a South American from Brazil 🇧🇷 I feel ashamed
Brooo. SOCCER IS A CRAZY PASSIONATE SPORT! People go nuts! We were there at the final and had a crazy experience
You are talking about superbowl experience. Did you noticed the crowd when they arrived to the hotel? This is not just a soccer game. This is NOT a superbowl experience. This is typical for soccer.
It’s silly to compare super ball or soccer game especially Copa America. The passion and craziness is a part of the soccer culture and what makes it the greatest sport in the world.
@sanfengmiao5367 US hosted this same event in 2016. Only difference is then, the USSF had more of a say in organizing it.
Argentina is the Word Champion of Soccer, Messi the best player in the World. That is why if it is typical of soccer as you say it should have been better organized. I Qatar this did not happen
I like anything that makes sports journalists clutch pearls
I’m a Mexican dude. And I say. Build that wall!!! lol
I went to two game sin Texas, Peru vs Chile and Mexico vs Jamaica, and it was nothing like the final at all.
What do they speak in Columbia? Seriously? How old are you and how long have you been on this planet?
They American that’s the worst already 😂😂😂
Brockman isn’t from this planet.
It's spell colombia not Columbia
Atleast capitalize it lol
There were more Colombians fans than Argentinian fans last night
AN UNPRECEDENTED STAMPEDE OF FANS WITHOUT TICKETS WHO FORCED THEIR ENTRY INTO THE STADIUM, PUTTING THE LIVES OF DOZENS OF PEOPLE IN DANGER.
This is just a microcosm of the border right now
See the problem is Americans compare a Major Continental Final between two rival nations, that only happens once every 4 years to just an annual Superbowl in the local league.
We can always cancel the games because the little kiddies can't get along and play well together. How's that sound?
@tracyisbest You can't, and you won't cause US is about that cheddar. Corporations and people sell their soul and morals for money
@@tracyisbest That sounds like a good idea! Probably play it in Madrid where they can handle it
@@tracyisbestTo the rest of the world, Tom Brady doesn't exist.
Play a combined CONMEBOL/CONCACAF tournament... in Europe? I guess you can't fix stupid. @@TrainerAQ
Bad fan behavior is a problem in a lot of sports but the lack of security and the mess in the organization is on the hosts (venues/cities) and organizers.
I think they don't know the attention and mass expectation a big soccer tournament brings so they dismiss the level of organization and the amount of security needed, when in reality it needs as much if not more security than the SB.
They better figure it out because the magnitude of a Worl Cup is like 10 times the SB and fans go absolutely CRAZY for it , Copa America is child's play in comparison.
Comparing the Super Bowl to the Copa America final just goes to show the level of ignorance involved by US organizations. It's not surprising this happened if you have been paying attention and FIFA needs to ensure they don't abdicate security to "the locals" when the World Cup arrives in the US in June 2026.
But this was conmebol
We can always cancel the games because the little kiddies can't get along and play well together. How's that sound?
@@bhratbratthis kinda happens in 1986 when Argentina and England fans fought
@@tracyisbestUS would never cancel, the country and the USSF are money whores the games will go on.
@@tracyisbest-like a big loss to the US economy.
Looked like the border and now our country 👍 Class Acts
I think you know the answer
This was a failure in cultural communication. The fans did what they always do and we didn’t prepare.
National teams playing each other in the final of a once in 4 years soccer tournament is emotionally so much bigger than any football game. And thats me, a polite German, saying that. Have you ever seen South American crowds ? No surprise at all for anyone who ever watched it.
So to add to the hundreds of opinions out there saying this, if this is all apparently known by so many people, why in the world did they not prepare for it like other lesser events do? It was embarrassing for both nations. Why go to a game and trash an escalator… Absolutely ridiculous.
What do you mean?
Remind me of the deadhead back in the 80s - one guy jumps over the wall at Giant Stadium and gets surrounded by security-followed by an unstoppable flood of merry pranksters.
Brah don't compare American football to European futbol. Totally different fan base
you didnt hear what he said youre not the only one.
Was the USSS hired to handle that security too?
No
yes
I know friends that went to the 1986 World Series at Shea Stadium without a ticket. Just hand a $100 bill to the turnstile ticket taker. I chose to buy a leather jacket instead... shoulda went to the game! I ended up get mugged for my jacket at 17 years old. You can get away with this anymore.
I think the comparison between the Super Bowl and a major international soccer final is incorrect. The Super Bowl is huge for the U.S. but international soccer tournaments are bigger and more intense. The Hard Rock stadium folks were not ready for this
What is superbowl? Is it chinese dish
Know Colombians and Argentinians and they are passionate about their national teams to the point they are willing to risk a lot to see them play…. Also didn’t help that it was in Miami where majority of Colombians and Argentinian immigrants live in US
Well not every Colombian that lives in Miami went to see the finals there were Colombians who are living in nyc, Houston or Boston that travel to Miami to attend the final
@@Frankieefootballmundial wasn’t my point….
@@yungheehong5613 I’m saying if you had the final in MetLife stadium you still going to have the same problem
They refuse to assimilate and be considerate citizens every day here in Florida, has nothing to do with passion for their team
Back in February of this year I went to MetLife Stadium for the NHL Stadium Series game between the New York Rangers and the New York Islanders. I was checked in by security to enter the fan fest outside of the stadium, I was checked in entering the stadium and checked to go to the club seat section since that's where I was seated at for the entire game
Stadium security personnel at MetLife Stadium did their job to ensure fans enjoy the game in a safe manner
And since it's one of the stadiums for the World Cup and home to the World Cup Final, I do hope FIFA will do everything it takes to make sure that it's a safe environment for fans to enjoy
Sad to blame the stadium staff & security. Cannot justify ignorance. That’s like saying it’s ok to be invited to a party @ someone’s house & you literally destroyed it because things didn’t go your way… at someone else’s house. They had 800+ officers.
This is exactly why the USA shouldnt hold these massive international football tournaments, cuz they dont understand it and what the security measures it requires. Unbelievable, this was a copa final! Its a lot bigger than a superbowl, theyre not ready for a world cup which much bigger than a copa or a euro.
1994. 2016. what are you talking about?
@@seanmac9944and stadiums were empty with garbage fields, holding a football tournament in a country that doesn't care about football is crazy
@@akexcarbajal1715The 94 world cup is the most profitable world cup in history. Literally exhibition games featuring big clubs sell out no problem… This is simply not true. MLS is weak, not football in America. Fifa knows how to run tourneys not comnebol. comnebol is responsible for poor organization. USA has hosted many successful football matches and large events, you cant just ignore history.
@@akexcarbajal1715empty stadiums? Lol
It was Conmebol who organized it. This falls more on them than anyone. Same with the Uruguay and Colombia match. They failed by trying to cut corners. Ignored advice from Hard Rock Stadium staff.
Fan behaviour. Disregarding their nationality or the team they were supporting, there is a clear lack of education, culture, mindset about behaviour in public places, events, a sickening feeling of entitlement from playing against the rules. You name it. It's simply disgraceful.
Needless to say, as a Colombian, I feel embarrassed of what these people did. They do not represent us.
The officials undestimated the type of event this would be. Instead of treating it like an international championship match, it was treated like some sort of casual friendly.
However, that's no excuse for some of these peoples behavior. They ruined family and kid's moods.
It was a rough experience, I made it to my seat, but the whole experience was insane
Looking at videos, it appears the fans knew this would work. SoCal has hosted many international Latin American soccer games with very passionate fans and nothing like this happened. People don't try this stuff because they know it'll get shut down. It's all like the fans knew the organizer wouldn't have the place secured properly.
I´m Argentine and I think Americans are not familiar with soccer/football matches where hooligans can cause trouble.
Who was in charge of security? The Secret Service?
Don’t host an event if you don’t understand the sport or fanbase, other countries know this and take these precautions, when the Super Bowl is hosted the security understand what to expect and don’t think twice about rival fans mixing. Soccer world is NOT the same!
you have no idea what your talking about you just want to say words. you cant blame america for how conmebol set things up. to set up a superbowl like security it costs money that conmebol couldnt afford or chose not to purchase. so they had a repeat oof the eurpo final at wembley
Almost as if the people running the event didn’t realize how big a deal this event was.. biased outlook because it wasn’t a big event to them. 🤷♂️
Tbf in America ppl buy tickets and stand in line. This was new behavior to them.
They got into the country the same way....are you really that surprised?
It looked liked the boarder right now😂😂
This is conmebols fault they organized it, and did not follow through properly lol.
@@hugh-jasole correct
I, for one am shocked. SHOCKED!
The same company which provides security staffing at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte for the post-match fiasco also provides security at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami, for what that's worth. Somehow, I don't think FIFA is going to want to work with that company in two years time, because that's not exactly going to exude confidence that security will be airtight in 2026.
Isn't the owner/sponsor the Seminole tribe? Would be nice to have their input on this.
Colombians 🇨🇴 thought they were sneaking across the border in Texas again 😆
They do the same thing in Europe trust me it’s not just a Colombian problem
@@jorgemarin7303 This ain’t Europe. We have all kinds of sporting events daily in an organized fashion.
It’s a World football problem.
@@LargeDude2023 None of those really compare to soccer...I don't know how much clearer it needs to be than what just went down.
It's crazy that America is trying to play it so cool as high horse "better than you" as if Trump didn't get shot at.
Americans in the United Staes don’t care about soccer. It that’s plain and simple.
There was no alcohol in Qatar and there were no hooligans or fan violence. They were criticized for politics but perhaps something to think about
I love how “passion” is used as an excuse for this behavior
In a Conmebol's statement, they are blaming Hard Rock Stadium and local authorities for the problems at the final game. They indicate that they "recommended to these authorities the procedures proven in events of this magnitude, which were NOT taken into account". The word not actually appears in uppercase in the statement. I assume that the proven procedures alluded to refer to establishing security areas around the stadium as Rich pointed out. All this deserves an investigation to determine responsibilities.
I’m from the UK and unfortunately this isn’t uncommon in “soccer”, especially South American soccer. Seems like every game the South American teams play there’s fighting and rioting and police involvement. Fans are so passionate that they’ll pay thousands of dollars to get to the US and take their chances on trying to break in and maybe see their country win a trophy. Thats football ⚽️
People getting bent over the SB comparison are missing the point. He's saying the security of the event didn't match the moment. The same would have been the case if the Euro final organizers treated it like an October matchup of Everton and Crystal Palace.
TLDR Colombia. They even act like that at their own pitch.
Tony Montana did warn us about colombians😮
A lot of people trying to get in without tickets these days.
Like at the southern border
All the Florida teams and Orlando. Hosts international soccer games year round this is first time I've seen something like this happen.
The world baseball championship took place in Miami 2022 I believe. Involving teams from all over the world. An event that last several days and not just one. Not a problem. This falls on the fans imo
"what do they speak in Columbia, Colombian?" Rich, I hope you know you made me laugh out loud with the subtle "this guy" 😂😂😂
Game should of been rescheduled. The Final four tournament doesn't have this type of mess with college kids messing up the stadium.
You can’t compare American football with real football. When national teams play it’s your nation playing it’s not just some team you support….
Yeah, you can’t the NFL to soccer. Where in soccer when 2 players bump into each other and fall down and start acting like they both just got shot. 🤣 Yeah, you can’t compare them.
@@itsgreat7150 I feel sorry for you, you'll never understand. Maradona is a great example of the beauty of the sport. From a nation that was just coming out of a military dictatorship which ruined the economy of Argentina. Born into poverty, malnourished at a young age. Still managed to take on big teams in Europe. winning the world cup. mind you the man was only 5'5. Now let's talk about American football where money can buy anything.....
@@kingcatx2 You change the subject to Maradona? You couldn’t defend the weak comment about national competition.
@@itsgreat7150 Dude, they don't wear pads all over their body like in American Football. If they bump into each other, it's going to hurt a whole lot more. How does that not register with you? Nobody outside of the U.S. cares or will ever care about American Football. Deal with it.
except every single person has yet to suggest that the security do anything different that they dont already do at intense rivalry games at the very stadium the copa final was at. so please stop being ignorant for you do not know what you are saying. conmebol chose to not pay for high security and this is the result.
It's been the stadium mentality for years now,no matter the sport,and I grew up going to the vet in philly for eagles games ,too much pregame drinking
It happen at the champions league final and it was the “local youth “ the problem is mass immigration from third world countries turning first world countries into cesspools.
So we’re blaming the venue for people acting like idiots? How about we hold people accountable for their actions. This isn’t a 3rd world country so they need to stop acting like they are in one.
As someone whose family is from South America let me tell you it’s a different culture. Maybe in Europe too, I don’t know. I’ve been to so many stadiums in the US for other sports and this never happens. But the ONE time I saw a soccer match (Ecuador vs Mexico) at Metlife people were pushing forward like they wanted to bring walls down. I had to yell at people behind me, strangers just shoving me forward. Security had to bring German Shepards across the fence to keep us in order. And the escalator stopped working because of so many people on it. What an embarrassment. This is EVERYONE’S fault and I’m not surprised.
Ticket master cancelled and resold tickets. So there were a lot of people with the flight and hotel paid. They had to go anyway and try to buy a ticket there.